Posted by psgels on 5 January 2006 with categories: Anime Reviews, Mahou Shoujotai

This is it: probably one of the best anime ever. At first glance this is just your average fantasy story, but it’s so much more. The duration of one episode is, unlike most, just eight minutes, and still, in those eight minutes the creators manage to put something that other anime only can accomplish in three episodes. This anime really is the roller-coaster ride of the roller-coaster rides.

The story is also unique. Every one or two episodes, another plot twist gets revealed that only makes you more eager to watch it. Another amazing thing is that you will not be able to predict what is going to happen next. That’s the beauty of this anime. Even in the departments of character development, character design and character interaction this series delivers. Each one of the characters is unique and different, and shows a great and perfectly executed dose of character development.

In order to make this anime, the creators had to create a world in which it was going to happen, along with the rules that make the things flow. You will be amazed by the result: a highly creative magic system, a diversative world, which even make sense and still look good.

The art of the characters is different from most anime. It’s a bit messier and dirtier than most regular anime, and the hair of the characters doesn’t shine like most shows feature. I have to say that I like this style. It really gives a unique feeling to the show. The panoramas will also leave you gazing upon your screen. You also must listen to the music developed for this show. Everything sounds top notch.

The only negative piece of comment I have for this anime is that the ending felt a bit rushed.

Why you should watch this: Are you a human being? Then watch this!

26 Responses

  1. iwubanime says:

    i watched this a month or two ago and i agree it is a great series, the shocker was how much that was crammed into 8 minutes, and yet it didn’t feel like 8 minutes

    just heard that there will be a “second season” that is going to be 6 episodes long, i’m a little disappointed by the length, but i guess beggers can’t be choosers; no release date yet

    nice review :)

  2. Taisuke says:

    undoubtfully one of the most imaginative, epic, and beautiful animes ever made; it mixes sci-fi, fantasy, action and drama perfectly. It’ll be at the top my list for a long time.

  3. psgels psgels says:

    Great to see another Mahou Shoujotai-fan here. You’re totally right, in my opinion. ^_^

  4. Nick says:

    Hail, fellow Mahou Shoujo Tai fan. I know this is a pretty old post, but do you know that Media Blasters has aquired this series?

  5. Anime fan says:

    That’s weird, you call it one of the best anime ever, and I’ve never heard about it. Not that I know so many animes or anything, but I thought I heard the names of most popular ones. I guess this might be one of the overlooked series. You got me really interested so I’m going to search for this show.

  6. Mai Dawn says:

    Ok, so i admit to only watching this anime because of the rating you’ve given it. Since i started checking on the website i found we have lots of similarities towards anime styles so I usually trusted what you said about an anime but honestly I cannot find a good reason as to why this could be the greatest series ever.

    Im 20 episodes in, and not one episode poped out as excellent, most barely averaging “good”. Also, Alice can possibly the most hateful, annoying character in the story of anime, EVER. Im half through the series and she doesnt seemed to have developed at all, saying the same thing every episode, whinning and getting her party in trouble which always frustrate me.

    The plot twist are not intriguing at all, unimaginably boring and generic not to say predictable. Im gonna (suffer) watching the series to the end since I still believe the second half might have a much better impression on me (I truly hope to God) because not even its shorter and quicker plot development can save the uncountable flaws this series has already created.

  7. Hei says:


  8. rfrost says:

    “Ok, so i admit to only watching this anime because of the rating you’ve given it. Since i started checking on the website i found we have lots of similarities towards anime styles so I usually trusted what you said about an anime but honestly I cannot find a good reason as to why this could be the greatest series ever.”

    LOL I agree! I am pretty disappointed with this anime. The anime didn’t live up with the excellent reviews.

  9. Alexandre says:

    Unfortunately Mai Drawn is perfectly correct and – I fear – got even more disappointed as the series moved toward the end: Alice doesn’t develop AT ALL: she keeps saying that magic is supposed to make people happy and so on. I suppose the series creators thought that it was an anime for little children, and so believed they had to deliver some sort of optimistic message. But Alice is utterly unfit to deal with reality. She only triumphs in the end because she’s a fictional character in a show where, instead of seeking for a minimum of verisimilitude the writers just kept pulling one ex machina after the other to help her succeed despite her astonishing blidness, inability to think ANYTHING through – as she herself admits – and really retarded optimism.
    I fully concur that wars are unbelievably stupid and people should help each other. But to just believe that you can change things by – as Sheila in the show so often points out to Alice – doing nothing and trying to help everyone at the same time will not get you anywhere.
    If it comes to try and save everyone, I much prefer Vash from Trigun. I mean, even Alice’s father is as naive as her – possibly he is the reason she is no naive. And the ending – so boringly predictable: after saving the world, the little heroine has to return to the “real” world – as if both worlds weren’t real in the storyline – to live a normal life and bring happiness here, thus sacrificially turning her back to her friends.
    Overall, very disappointing indeed. By the way, the best anime I’ve ever seen is still Haibane Renmei.

  10. AlexS says:

    Although I understand Mai and Alex criticisms, I think they are being quite unfair to the anime.

    It’s true that Alice always repeats more or less the same thing, but her position is totally understandable. Her role is comparable to that of a charismatic leader, political or religious. She has very strong beliefs, that are basically more important to her than herself. If she loses them, she’s worse than dead. People of this kind don’t easily weaver, even when their life is at stake (just think about the Christ on the cross, or Mandela in life sentence).
    Also, the fact that she constantly needs to repeat her message is logic: she’s the only person in that world to believe in it! A rational person would do the same if she lived in a place where superstition is the main belief system, or a person who despises slavery in a slave labor based society. Just watch political activist: they are untiring in carrying their message through, simply because the reality that surrounds them constantly rubs them the wrong way. Alice constantly sees around her something she can’t stand, and being loud-mouthed makes sure to make her displeasure known.

    Despite all that, she’s not totally inflexible. She does grow up, and has her times of weakness. Plus, the show clearly shows that sometimes she swallows her internal sadness to put an outward smiling face for the sake of her friends.

    Alice is clearly not my favorite character, and she suffers from the burden of the “savior” role, but she certainly is not as unidimensional as you put it. Plus, the other characters develop so much that it more than compensates the rigid position of Alice.

    As for myself I found the show amazing, mostly because of the incredible pacing and plot twists, but even more because of the characters, which are cute (without being moe and stupid) and full of life. My only quibble is the ending (I found the father unnecessary), but that’s very minor.

    I have to thank psgels for promoting this anime, otherwise I would not know about it. And although Mushishi is clearly my all time favorite anime series, both Mahou Shoujotai and Haibane Renmei are in my top ten favorites ^_^

  11. Dante says:

    You had some fairly qualitative reviews, so I thought I’d check out your number One.

    10 episodes in, I thought, maybe theres more to it. 20 episodes in, maybe theres an intense twist. 30 episodes in, I just told myself to finish it for the heck of it.

    Undoubtedly one of the worst series to spend time watching for me. Too much optimistic googoo, poor plot, etc, etc. Quite frankly, it was BORING. NOTHING that intrigued me at all, except maybe for the few sounds that sprites make.

    I completely agreed to your review of Birdy 2, which was a hell of a surprise series, blowing out any expectations whatsoever. Now with this fairy tale, I just cant possibly see how you can enjoy it so much. NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, stuck with me, except for how horrifying it was to watch. No great characters, in fact, you begin to even hate on nearly all of them. You just can’t take the story seriously. No good music, nothing.

    Birdy 2 had, in my honest opinion, the BEST artwork and animations of any anime out there, with maybe the exception of some short scenes of some certain series/movies. It had an incredible plot, character development, MUSIC, and just outright badassness. Where else can you see such fluid movements of the body, with such momentum, power, feel, in a setting where there really feels like there’s gravity and physics? Animations aside, Birdy 2 was still a good series. You did well in that review, and I could concur with it.

    This one though…I don’t know what the hell to say.

  12. specracer says:

    Before I start I must say I agree with 95 percent of your reviews, and many other blogs have boasted this anime.

    So with that said I can’t find much to like about this. I have tried several times to finish this show, but I just can’t. By the time I get near the end I’m practically starved for some character development.

    I’m going to try to not rant here, but I HATE Alice. With the very FIRST thing she does when she gets in their world she rekindles a war, and her character development amounts to ZERO.

    The only good thing I can think of is the art is unique and they did a great cramming 30 minutes into 8.

    For me this is no where near the top at best a 75 out of 100

  13. Howling-kun says:

    What everyone above said, but I want to add even the animation was kind of inconsistent at times, and some things just look plain cheesy. The only thing truly enjoyable for me was the soundtrack.

    I pretty much loved everything else you high-rated except for this.

  14. Zodiac Casino says:

    I would like to thank you heartily for your blog. Without it, I would not have discovered a such a great series. Granted, it took some searching around to find subs (even longer to get fast seeds for it!) But I tell you, it was worth it.

    I feel I should also thank you for giving me some great inspiration for expanding my collection. One day I simply sat down and browsed your top picks, and just searched those that sounded interesting. Seeing as there is so much anime out there, having a nice consolidated list of opinions has been incredibly helpful. Although there are a couple shows that I would have rated differently, every title you had in the 90-100 range that I saw I agreed with 100%.

    Ok, enough brown-nosing from me. Just keep up the good work!

  15. reverse says:

    I would say this is indeed a very good anime, fairly deserve 90+ ranting.
    if you compare this show with noein I would say mahou shoujotai is definitely better in almost everything.however if with birdy2 I would say, mahou shoujotai has more epic story and longer, that the only thing mahou shoujotai were better than birdy2. other than that birdy2 win hand down.

    anyway Mahou Shoujotai is indeed a great choice your number one anime. most people who watch anime always put they top favorite anime either, a snail pace show with no real plot, a pure romance anime and gloomy anime. I’m glad this show doesn’t have any of that

    with this, I already view all your 92 to 100 anime ……… almost ( couple more left )

  16. josa qqq says:

    ugghh..this blogger has no taste at all. ugly series..bleh!

  17. Runekilla says:

    From a quick look at the comments, it looks like you either love or hate this anime. I thought the art work was quite unique but the story was lacking for me.

  18. mdv says:

    i didn’t like this series…
    his reviews right now are great though.
    psels is currently my number one source for what anime series i should watch.
    maybe he wasn’t very cynical when he watched the “older” anime. most of these commenters (including me, i am very judgmental when watching anime :D) are cynical..

  19. White Wolf says:

    I cannot fathom why this was rated so highly. I downloaded it after reading the review and must say I’m bitterly disappointed. This series is just downright boring. The different art style was interesting, but the characters are flat and at most 2 dimensional, the story is mediocre at best, and it just completely failed to hold my attention for more than 5 minutes at a time. Towards the end I had to force myself to keep watching simply because I’m proud of the fact I’ve never started and not finished an anime.

    Lets start with the main character. The only main character I have ever hated more than Alice was Naruto in the first few episodes of Naruto. She displays suspiciously little development or depth, and she’s just plain annoying.

    The plot. The whole way through this series, I found myself wondering if the story was actually going to go anywhere. It didn’t. Sure, it was original, but it just wasn’t interesting. I don’t know how you can take a story set in a magic realm and make it so uninteresting. All the wonderful things you mentioned in your review… I didn’t see one of them. Aside from the musical score was decent and the art was interesting.

    I’d give this series at most a 70/100

  20. gandalf8 says:

    Finally. After years ago where I first caught a few episodes of this on Animax and thought that it was a unique and quite interesting anime series, I’ve finally finished watching it. Sad to say, I just cannot agree with Psgels high rating of this series.

    Mahou Shoujo Tai Arusu is indeed an interesting series with one of the most unique and unconventional designs in anime that I’ve ever seen. The magical world, from the witch realm to the wizard kingdom look very unique and show a very imaginative and creative design. The numerous fairies are each distinctive and different from each other, while the magical spells and the warlocks technology are all lovingly portrayed, even if the animation is sometimes not up to par.

    The other good thing of note is also the soundtrack. The opener really gives a sense of adventure, while the ending song is a whimsical song that closes of each episode on a high. The background music is equally good, supporting each scene adequately, although without really standing out.

    Unfortunately, a unique design and wonderful soundtrack does not a good anime make. The main trio of Alice, Eva, and Sheila fit the three stereotype of the optimist, the timid girl, and the ever serious. As the story goes on, they undergo character development, with Sheila especially turning out into a very amazing character. Sadly, Alice is the main character. Initially a naive and idealistic kid who holds an almost blind belief in magic, by the end of the series she’s practically the same. Her belief that magic must only be used to make people happy without hurting anyone is admirable, but the way she held on to it in some instances really made me want to tear my hair out. The way she goes headlong into any trouble without thinking, and somehow just by bumbling along she somehow manages to do the right thing really infuriates me.

    Another bad aspect of the series are the gaping plot holes, with lots of leaps in logic, characters acting like idiots, and the deus ex machinas that litters this series. Like how those warlocks so easily kept infringing into the witches realm to catch fairies without the general population of witches seeming to give a care. Or how easily the warlocks got into the witches realm when they were searching for Alice because every witch was at the chapel, and not a single one is left on sentry duty? And even if Alice doesn’t want to use magic to hurt people, when fighting against those warlocks can’t she use a spell that won’t kill them, just maybe stun or stop them in their tracks? There were so many of these incidents, that I’m surprised my desk isn’t broken yet.

    The magic system is also underutilized and poorly fleshed out. If all that is needed to cast a magic spell is a piece of a fairy and the incantation, then why is it so hard to use magic? how can there be witches that can’t use magic? Is it so hard to remember a string of words? And why the heck does Jidan, a human, know so much about the so called ‘light magic’ than even the witches Grand Master?

    To conclude, I would like to say that I’m very disappointed with how it turned out. This series had a very creative and imaginative setting, that was underutilized thanks to the poor execution and messed up plot.

  21. Hogart says:

    Though I can’t say it’s my favorite anime, it was well worth the time investment compared to most of the stuff airing these days. Thanks for reminding me about it, psgels.

    My wife says it recalled the feeling of watching an old Don Bluth cartoon, and after watching a couple like Secret of NIMH, I kind of agree that it shares that whole “hope in the darkness” theme Bluth seems to have handled in his films (I’m going to have to watch some more of them).

    I could nit at the pacing and sometimes jarring editing in Mahou Shoujotai, but in the end I’m more glad that they didn’t dwell very long on the cliches and kept moving. More anime could stand to do that.

    Frankly, it feels like anyone overly criticizing this are doing so either because it’s an easy target, or because only people who like it have bothered reviewing it online.

    You could apply the same criticisms to far more popular anime (especially ones for older audiences) but they usually get a pass. Mahou Shoujotai doesn’t deserve to be associated with that double-standard.

  22. Pafiume says:

    Man oh man, people really hated this apparently! I watched the first half of this like three years ago and just ended up marathoning it the past two days.

    I agree I’m surprised that this got such a high rating, but I still really enjoyed it. It was a fun plot, until the last episode which I didn’t like, and an imaginative world. The setting fit me very well, I loved the feeling of such a fantasy world and I didn’t realize until I was watching the show that I’d been missing it. It kept me longing for something, and in the end I still didn’t get it, but still I really liked it.

    The art was great, I thought. I loved the character designs.

    The thing I didn’t like about Alice was that she just kind of assumed everything about the world. I’m probably being just too serious, but it bothered me that she would go into the witch world and just tell them they weren’t using magic correctly because they weren’t always doing it to make people happy. Yes that’s a very optimistic way to look at magic and all, but just coming into the magic world from a place where magic didn’t even actually exist it’s interesting that she didn’t really try to learn anything about it but just kept what she already assumed. I guess her dad had taught her what she knew of it, and her whole stubborn view of it was the point though. That just stuck out to me and I’m sure I’m just being no fun.

    The ending sucked, though. Friendship saves the day, woop woop. I expected it a couple episodes up to the end. You could tell some of the plot twists ahead of time, but that’s not always a bad thing. There were some really unexpected ones too! But that ending. It just felt very expected, and kind of generic, and like Psgels said, it was rushed. I may have to check out the OVA or whatever.

    The episodes were packed for how short they were, and I appreciated that. I’d say it’s a good series! I don’t know why people didn’t enjoy anything about it.

  23. Fluca says:

    I just finished this series and boy, it is nowhere near what I expected.

    Sure, it is epic in its scope, but one of the best animes ever? Not by a longshot.

    For instance, if one compares it to another epic anime like Now and Then, Here and There, this loses hands down. Just to cite one glaring difference, in the latter, even though the lead character is optimistic and never really lets go of his ideals (much like Arusu), his actions do have consequences, some of them quite bad and he grows as a result.

    Off the top of my head I can think of plenty animes that were in a league above Mahou Shoujotai, like: Haibane Renmei, Mushishi, Now and Then Here and There, Monster (oh my God, Monster!), Evangelion, Full Metal Alchemist, Last Exile, Natsume Yuujinchou, Cowboy Bebop etc.

    I haven’t really had the will to check which of these came after Mahou Shoujotai but since they do exist now, I think Psgels should revise down Mahou Shoujotai’s grade.

    I would give it an “good” grade, at most.

  24. Reso says:

    After reading about it here a few days ago, I did decide to finally try looking for a copy. And after watching the first two episodes, I’m quite intrigued by it. I do remember seeing this on Crunchyroll back when it was still free, but totally disregarded it because I thought the name Tweeny Witches was pretty stupid. I’ve grown up and now I am disappointed in myself, because I haven’t seen anime that have intrigued me with the first episode(s) in a while.

  25. David says:

    its rated 7.4/10 on MAL , so i think your rating it way too high

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Going back to the fanservice topic, its very easy to complain about it in anything but then something actually comes along that actually does it for you. I mean I always say that I don't watch a show/movie for its fanservice elements and stick with pictures on image boards, but then I ended up seeing a film where I actually got something out of the fanservice while watching the film its.
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There was the sense too with both those episodes of "Jesus...I wasn't ready for that...."
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@Friend, Spit balling here but Tatsumaki from One Punch Man? I know the costume for that one would be simple enough. Or maybe Shiki from Kara No Kyoukai?
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I remember talking about this with Emma/Kaiser before, but has anyone here gone cosplaying at an expo before? I thought it would be neat to try designing my own costume and try something else beside drawing on a computer.
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I think the roles/identity thing with flipflappers, at least with the protaganist does fit in well with adolescence.
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@Aidan: I've only seen the first episode so far. I felt the acting was intentional and reflected the satire Brooker was going for on the shallow nature of society. Bleak as ever but gloriously grotesque.
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@Mario:Good in depth reviewing there Mario of flipflappers episode three.
Good god this first episode of black mirror is hard to watch. I know exactly how it's going to turn out but it's just so damn painful to watch.
Well, tbh up to where I've seen there's not much explicit yaoi in yuri on ice, only a lot of fujoshi fuel.
@Kaiser. thanks for the torrent. Gonna blaze through this today.
@Topgavin, as someone who watches a metric ton of anime I am rather surprised at that estimate that 90% of it contains Yuri.
My god those gay scenes in Yuri on Ice are hard to watch for me. Wonder if this is how it feels to be a girl watching 90% of normal anime nowadays.
okay, Flip Flappers episodic review was up. This is my lengthiest weekly review so far and I still feel I missed a lot of points. Damn you Flip Flappers
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You have seen the light, not needing to know everything thats happening to enjoy something ^_^
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I've given some consideration to reviewing that oujia film followup.
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I will say if it must come down to either unnatural dialogue or unnatural character types, at leas the character type is speaking their own words and not the words of the script writer.
Or was that a black and white fallacy? Maybe it was a little of both.
@Realjustified, K-Off wasn't agreeing with me. That's a Moving the Goal Posts logical Fallacy but well I will answer regardless. Honestly it's preferable to have neither. The big mistake you are making here is that you are putting down a condiction that a show must have one or the other. But both cartoons and anime can have both. I just think it's a lot more prominent in cartoons than anime.
Like, having read hundreds of harem manga over the years, a majority of the ultimate love interest always happens to be the first girl the protagonist meets.
Wait wait wait wait. Aidan and K-Off. I get that dialogue in cartoon can seem like it was written by a script writer, but at the same time, lots of anime have characters whose sole purpose is entirely scripted. The whole spectrum of "deres" and everything. What do you think is worse? Unnatural dialogue, or unnatural character types?
You guys should really go fuck yourself, it's a solution and it's nothing short of great!
You guys should really watch the first 4 episodes of Bungo, it's a prequel and it was nothing short of great!
omg!! I just realized To be Hero was one of the show that I reviewed its 1st episode back in Chinese Animation post. I watched raw then though
forgive me if I'm a bit too overwhelmed by Flip Flappers... For this episode alone I took like 25 screenshots...trying to write a review now...
I have absolutely no idea what is going on in Flip Flappers plot. And yet for some reason I am OK with that.
Anyone out there that's a fan of crude humor should go watch ep.3 of To Be Hero. Certinately stepped it up a notch from the last two humor-wise.
One downside I can think of already is that I'm bound to lose or break one of the detachable controllers. The cost for those pieces is what I'm most interested in.
Nintendo Switch hmm? Honestly it looks too good to be true. I expect some major downsides to this thing.
I like cartoons, don't get me wrong. Certainly good for a change of pace. But there is something about the way they are written that I find rather distracting.
I don't know, maybe if I said it's like the difference from how characters talk in movie vs how characters talk in a sitcom?
@K-Off, I said one liner's or jokes. Not one liner jokes. It's hard to explain. Basically when I hear a conversation in anime even if it is based in stereotypes, it at least feels like a conversation that's being had in the moment. In cartoons however there is a layer of artificiality and it feels like characters know what a person is going to say and has a response prepared.
That's probably why some of my favorite anime in recent years haven't been very heavy on character archetypes, or were either parodies of it.
Comedic dialogue with anime in recent years have leaned too much on the idea of playing off character archetypes. The collected character vs the energetic character, for one. I'd like to see more variety. Some more word play, hyperbolic humor, body humor, etc etc.
@Aidan Not quite sure what you mean by that, because it's certainly not even a majority of cartoons that rely on cheap one liner jokes. I suppose it's entirely up to taste, but I can appreciate the energy in cartoons like Steven Universe or Regular Show when compared to the increasingly repetitive dialogue found in some recent anime.
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Thought I'd check out the reviews for Shelter on MAl and the top review is a 1/10. Apparently because it's a cute girl we sympathise with her more, which is bad because reasons. I mean.. what? MAL never ceases to amaze me
@Mario, no. It's more that the dialogue keeps trying to push out one liners or jokes regardless of whose talking.
@Aidan: maybe because they spoke in your native language do you can feel that it's artificial, ya know? I know I have the same problem with Vietnamese drama/ cartoon and maybe Japanese people have that same issues with anime?
By which I mean, the way characters talk in cartoons is very...artificial. Like you can tell that the dialgoue was clearly written beforehand and it never really sounds natural. At least to me.
@Anon, I wouldn't. The writing and structure are too cartoon. What with the episodic nature and dialogue that generally pushes for a comedic tone.
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Flanagan also directed absentia which I haven't seen yet but I think someone I came across of 4chan linked it to being lovecraftian?
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Oculus was a film of two halves for me. Hush was a pretty standard home invasion thriller, making the victim deaf was an interesting twist but not as unique as you might think, still suspenseful though.
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I never saw the first oujia film. Though Mike Flanagan who did the sequel, he's never made a bad movie but he's never really made a great one either.
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I stick to the firm belief that cartoons and anime, visually should do and be their own thing. I'll prefer a western artstyle for cartoons rather than one pretending to look like anime style.
But this is a good topic and I'm sure everyone has their own opinions so I'm looking to hear some more arguments
@anon352392: no they aren't. For me not because of where their production based, nor their intended audience, but rather their styles, both visually and storytelling-ly, are different
Anime,” they assert, is not a “style” of illustration or animation.
That's where I differ to those guys. For me, anime is a style. In that sense, I consider RWBY, and Canadian-produced short Flutter as an anime. Thunderbolt Fantasy is not and anime-influence shows/movies that are intented for Western audience like AniMatrix or Afro Samurai are anime
@Anon nah they wouldn't be because they aren't made by a japanese producer for the japanese market. Quality isn't the question, production is
NX and Red Dead Redemption 2 trailers tomorrow.
They are good series and i honestly like them alot more than most anime series, would their quality make them anime?
What about cartoons like Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces Of Evil?
In other news a sequel to an absolutely terrible horror movie called Ouija is out and it's...actually pretty good? Wondering if critics were paid off or it is legit good. Well it did have the guy who was behind Oculus and that was a pretty good movie.
Simplify the term down enough and anime is literally anything animated but the whole point of the term is to distinguish it. For to call Spongebob an anime makes me want to projectile vomit. Point is this, you say you watched a cartoon, people think Tom and jerry, Scooby doo etc. You say you watched an anime, people think Cowboy bebop, Attack on titan, etc. Whole point of the term.
For example, I don't consider Avatar or RWBY to be anime for while they use anime style, the writing is fundamentally structured like an American cartoon. Through I would consider Bloodivores an anime even though it was made by a Chinese animation company, making it technically a Chinese cartoon.
As far as what is and isn't anime I honestly think of the term as a means of distinguishing it from cartoon which gives the impression of being for children. It's like Graphic novel is to comic book. Though techically graphic novels are issues of comics bound in book form, the term Graphic novel is often used to distinguish works that go above superhero comics and whatnot.
Basically I think it was due to Porter Robinsons involvement that they didn't consider it anime.
@Aidan: Did the mods give any concrete reasons why they didn't consider it an anime?
@Mario, It wasn't the community that had the problem. It was the mods. The community made it pretty clear that they considered it anime.
So despite the art style is obviously anime, the character speaks in Japanese, and the production was animated by A1 Studios, it's not an anime? Sometimes I feel sad that the anime community keeps limiting themselves with such fixed minds.
I saw it yesterday and yes it was good. For a 5-minute story, they don't make it too overwhelme with details, and still pack an emotional punch. Moreover it elevates the song. Good stuffs.
Shelter was quite good though. It works well and the animation was beautiful. Song is not bad either. It's got a nice emotional punch to it though it's a bit simple a story.
Well anyway I only saw all this because I checked out the video for the first time and wanted to see how others thought of it with a quick scan through reddit. And I get this shitshow instead.
Playing the victim is the one really pisses off the internet. For refusing to admit you f*cked up only encourages people to shove how you f*cked up into your face. That's what really grinds peoples gears.
Yep, seen that too. The mods even put up another tread about the video and tried to guilt trip people by saying they got death threats. Look, internet rules 101. If you said or did something stupid admit to it and just walk away. Do not try to deflect blame or play the victim, that only adds fuel to the fire.
@Aidan oh yeah saw that live lol. Porter himself even commented on twitter about it, gotta love internet drama
So did anyone happen to catch the big old shitstorm of that Shelter music music when a mod of the Anime subreddit decided it wasn't "Anime" enough and removed the discussion post about it? Oh internet drama...what silly nonsense.
Finally caught up with JoJo. Diamond is Unbreakable has turned out to be much better than Stardust Crusaders. Should have waited for the season to finish through as I really loved marathoning it.
I had a feeling that might be the case considering the source materail for luger.
@Mario Oh I watched that, certinately worth it. Packed more story that some 12-episode shows do nowadays and gorgeous animation.
and I will check out "Shelter" music video to see what all the fuss is about
*this weekend to be exact.
Sounds like Luger Code 1951 is an OVA that will air next week, the same air date with "my" Zaregoto OVA.
@Mario: doesn't sound real at all to me lol
@Mario, I might be able to manage. If all else fails I can talk about the past of these historical figures.
While I don't mind watchinng Drifters, I swaer if I had to cover that show, I couldn't come up with anything to say.
Do you guys know what language the fairies speak in Drifters? It does sound like a genuine language
@topgavin: humanity has declined is a great show. It has good writing and dark, witty sense of humor. I could talk about it in length but psgels pretty much covered it all. He was really impressed by that show however.
That should be me covered till the weekend. Why do all my shows air on the weekend...
@Mario nah I've watched the whole thing but I'd heard about it at the start of this year and put it off. The dialogue between her and the fairies was great stuff, probably gonna rewatch it this weekend now that you mention it
Alright, I got three posts written up and will be throwing them out in about two hours or do.
I thought you've finished it. Yeah I love her character a lot, so cynical but witty. My favorite moment was when she read about fairy's plan to invent religions. She was like "so religions are invented?" (beat) "I've learn something new today". Priceless
@Mario Oh nice, it was one that I had heard about but never got round to. To put it in simple anime terms, Watashi is best girl
@topgavin: I just finished the series yo mentioned the other day: humanity is declined. Man, I love it. I know now I have a thing for dark twisted absurdist anime
@Ano340004: the name is Watashi ga Motete Dousunda, or to put it short Motete. I have fun with it but i'm not that enthuastic
@anon the english name is Kiss him, not me. Search through the first impressions if you need the jap name.
then that girl really loves BL (boy love)
what is the name of the anime that the girl is fat and then she got depressed because her favorite boy anime died then she got thin?
Season 7 is awesome so far too. It feels like the tone of the show is finally back to normal and it feels like Adventure Time again.
Whew, I binged all seasons of Adventure Time this weekend. The show hit a low spot in Season 6 but I think it needed to happen...Poor Finn needed the serious character development after what he did to FP.
You guys are too hard on it
Motete is very funny
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When it comes to gag manga and four-koma, I just eventually reach a stopping point with a comedy series in that format. Even with hidamari sketch.
I think it was typical light novel trash based on what was in the PV. I laughed that despite it being horrible that the crowd still cheered anyway, likely because it had a bath clip in it.
The PV was hilarious. I had no idea what the anime was about.
@Aidan I'm good, I'll stick with Working.
@K-Off, you could switch to something like Gi(a)rlish Number if you like. I for one am really digging the satire of the show. Plus I like that it's basically showing how an utter train-wreck of an anime can be made. That PV in the last episode was truly painful.
Feeling pretty disappointed with Working. I haven't gotten any more cynical with comedies, at least I don't think, and its flaws are so irritating.
@Adam Le, I find that with Comic book dialogue. Which is one of the reasons I have gone off marvel movies. Cartoons have it to a degree as well.
I love the instagram shots in Yuri
Maybe I can have a watch through those live action films and do a compare/contrast to see which version works better. After all movie and tv series are 2 different medium, and live-action vs animation is the topic that we never get tired of
speaking of which, the overlap between anime and live-action adaptation from manga is overwhelming. For this year alone, there were Erased, 3-gatsu no Lion, Fune o Amu, orange, and Chihayafuru (part 1&2). Those were just the ones I know.
@Adam: Don't know which genre you're into but you can try Fune o Amu (The Great Passage)
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I can't seem to get into any of these new shows. I don't know, the dialogue always seems off to me and the forced comedy is a big turn off.
Reminds me of a thought I had when I was last at the Getty art museum. People walking past works of art hundreds of years old, but only taking a second-long glance before moving on to the next one. Not their fault really, it's only the professional critics who can understand what they see with depth.
I'm the opposite really, they're getting paid for what they said so they better know their shits
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I suppose I'm slightly envious of professional critics somewhat.
Sometimes you're just meant to experience the ride you know. I don't watch those explained video anymore because after all it's just one guy's opinions.
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And I mean people who art professionals or students.
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I guess I'm just unsure of something, how many people watching "arty" stuff are able to pick it up on their own. By looking up an "explained video" or "explained essay" to get it, am I copping out?
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I feel like I've begun getting on board with the european art stuff but am really only scratching the surface with the Chinese and that stuff.
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And find myself missing whats going on sometimes.
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I'll admit I do find it frustrating, that even though I can like art films, emotionally connect at times, appreciate the visual techniques and admire them for being so different without looking up analysis by people far smarter than myself I honestly feel lost sometimes as to the meaning.
@Kaiser: Apichatphong Weerseethakul's films are so otherworldly and spiritual that I wouldn't dare to call them "dreams" anymore. Check out his "Uncle Boonmie", "Syndromes and a Century", "Cemetery of Splendors". he has such singular vision that just watch and experience his films are rewarding enough
@afgm: well, if we really go over-analyze it, bunnies can represent desire for example ^^
like eating sweet snow is so randomness for me
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