Posted by psgels on 28 September 2006 with categories: Anime Reviews


Ouran is a high-school comedy-drama with a twist: the school this anime takes place in is only for the children of the richest parents in Japan. It’s meant for those children who are able to spend a huge amount of money. The only way for non-rich people to get in the school is to have exceptionally good grades.

Well then, for some reason, rich people don’t have to do any homework, so they huge amounts of time to spend. This anime is about the Host Club of this school. It’s basically a way for the rich people to spend their time. The club consists out of a group of bishounen, who all entertain the ladies who come to the host club. Then, a female, pretending to be a male joins the club, and the anime starts.

Ouran’s strength is its novelty. The bad thing is that it doesn’t seem to realize this. I’m afraid to say it, but most of the episodes, this anime just keeps milking on old concepts they already tried, up to the point at which things just become incredibly boring. An example of this is our main character’s sarcasm. When this gets used in the first episode, it’s funny. Same in the second episode. But when she reacts the same way in over twenty episodes, the fun quickly dies. It’s a darn shame, as the episodes which introduce new things really worked out. Both in comedy as in drama.

You can really see this in the episodes in which one or two particular characters stand in the spotlights. All these episodes basically to is retell things from other episodes, only a bit changed and twisted in order to make them look unique. It’s also strange that the annoying characters get three or four episodes for themselves, while another character doesn’t get even half of an episode. Still, this made the latter one of the better characters.

Still, I have to admit, in terms of character development, the characters of Ouran are very fleshed out. The episodes do give characters the chance of showing their unique cases, and later in the series, you can spot the changes. While this does look boring the moment when you see it, the overall picture that this gives is impressive.

Like I said, some of the characters are unique. Others, however, do not fit in this anime. The image of a small, cute, cuddly child who happens to be the strongest master of martial arts on the planet was just too forced. I also didn’t like the fact that being the richest also automatically means being the strongest, smartest, best, or any other superior element. The creators also didn’t really attempt to deviate from this, apart from having a main character who’s poor. But even then there’s no emphasis put on this, which is a shame, as it’s an interesting subject.

Overall, Ouran did have its very good moments. Some episodes were just hilarious. It’s just too bad that these good episodes were surrounded by bad episodes. Still, it remains a fairly good comedy, and the drama aspects were fine. It’ll be a fine watch, although boring at times.

30 Responses

  1. I think the great speciality in Ouran lies in the face expressions. They were such a great laugh sometimes, and I haven’t seen another anime that can be so funny just in the face expressions.

    Further it’s just like you said. Ouran can be fun but overall, it’s also very boring.

  2. Angelle says:

    I think the mangaka intentionally created weird, stereotypical characters (such as the cutest looking one is the oldest, the guy with the glasses thinks only about profit, etc.) so that we realize the stupidity through the eyes of sarcasm girl. Furthermore, you cannot expect drastic character changes because in real life, nobody changes that fast within one year. That is another strength of the show; the characters develop just a little. ^^”
    I do agree though that there were some boring moments, for me especially in the middle with all the forced drama and hardly anything enlightening in between.

  3. helspectre says:

    you know, of all the people and things and Ouran, I’m only interesting in Tamaki and Kyouya mainly. The rest are a tad wierd.

  4. Bri says:

    I LUV THIS ANIME!!!! I HOPE THEY DECIDE TO SHOW A SECIND SEASON!!!!! IF NOT IM SUEING!!!! -kisses to Hikaru!!!!!- I HEART U!!!!! -and to Kaoru as well-…. they’re all hot but the twins..are the hottest!!!

  5. jennifer says:

    I love tamaki! he is my favourite whos your favourite?

  6. psgels psgels says:

    Mori, of course. :P

  7. Imbroco says:

    I’ve got to disagree with this one — it’s one of my all time favorites. I found it both touching and uproarious. Simply my oppinion, but I’d give it at least a 95.

  8. demon says:

    hmm..think anime is funny…good comedy? yea…and the characters are kinda cute…[ hot..like u guys said ] the face expression is very good too~ thats why i love it..i am nvr bored about it…[ but still…sometimes] but overall…like u all said…its a nice anime..XD

  9. Sakura says:

    I love….Tamaki he’s so kawaii

  10. HITACHIIN FANS! says:

    This anime is awsome! I can’t express it but I’m totally addicting to it!!! but sadlly, there is no 2nd season, I’m sure of it! my fav. character is kyouya and hikaru! I can’t write Hika/Haru fics coz of Kaoru!when I’m almost done writting my masterpiece and the main role was Haru/hika but when it came at the end at the last minute i said : Wait! What happens to Kaoru then?!” sometimes I feel like Kaoru is in the way of his brother and haruhi’s relationship although he means well, he is willing to sacrifice his love for haruhi and supprot his broother…so I always ended up always making it Kyouya and Haruhi fics….I don’t like Tamaki! I kinda Hate him…most of the twins’ fans never did like him, but now their hatred for him outright by demanding he cease anywhere near Haruhi! You rock guys!

    Hands down to Bisco HAtori!

  11. Jamila says:

    I can’t agree, especially, because you don’t seem to get that it’s a parody of all shojos that do that.

  12. Oya says:

    Hm…I think that this anime isn’t as bad as you had review.
    I had good fun watching it!

  13. JUST CALL ME PISSED OURAN FANGIRL! >. says:

    ……..I’M SORRY BUT WHO THE FUCKING HELL R U 2 SAY “THIS IS A CRAPPY SERIES”!!!!!!! >_.

  14. Serenade says:

    I disagree with the rating! D8 (Objection~!)

    Ouran is /meant/ to be outrageously stereoptypical and annoying — to the point of hilarious. It’s crazy, random, overdramatic, loud, flamboyant… and that’s its very purpose.

    The ultimate strength of the anime is its characters; each has his/her specific place and specialty (Tamaki – king, Kyouya – Scrooge, Haruhi – sarcastic voice of reason), but as the show progresses (in between bouts of laughter) we find that these characters actually do not fit solely into their outrageous stereotypes. They are simply people, and as Tamaki says, contradictions are what makes a personality.

    And personally, I didn’t find any of the characters annoying — not even Renge, after a while. The point is not to take them seriously, because 90% of the time, they’re just being crazy teenagers. I love Honey-senpai, and I never tire of Haruhi’s cynical, down-to-earth comments. I think that the show’s absolute insanity is perfectly interspersed with touches of reality (from the poor folk, o’ course).

    It’s really great; you just have to go with the eccentric flow. I’d give it a 90+.

  15. Serenade says:

    Mah favoritez are Hikaru/Kaoru. =3

  16. stephen007 says:

    Oh man, I too will have to disagree with this review, well as they say everyone has their own thoughts and views. I’d probably rate this one 90+, and i think majority of people who watched this series will do so…

  17. Stephen007 says:

    Wow, the way you explained your thoughts about this series is well done! You also pointed out things that most Ouran Fans wouldn’t notice. A very interesting point of view, i think the reason youre able to point them out us because you’ve already watched ALOT of anime series (Was it 300+?). Which probably makes you a good critic of anime. People who watched only a few series will probably think youre nuts considering ouran might be one of the best of those few series that they have, hahaha.

    BUT STILL, i have to say the score is TOO LOW, i will still rate it around 90 or above. Were all waiting for you to change the rating and make it higher or expect alot more angry mobs for this blog. lolz

  18. ceillo says:

    I think your expectation for this series was too high. It’s a comedy and it was made to make people laugh. I for one couldn’t stop laughing while I watched this, and I still did the second time around. The great thing about this anime was of course the animation, it was absolutely gorgeous. I really appreciated this aspect when I watched Special A, god that was pitiful. Overall I would rate Ouran High School Host Club 89+ for a job well done.

  19. monica says:

    um…i thought this anime series was great. it was hilarious but ceillo dont diss special a. it was a pretty good anime though ouran high school host club is way better. i found special A a decent series. i felt like i had to say thid since you were the only one who mentioned it. i would rate ouran high school host club 95+, oh yeah why is everyone giving it a 90+. please give this anime higher ratings!

  20. Sarah says:

    “I also didn’t like the fact that being the richest also automatically means being the strongest, smartest, best, or any other superior element. The creators also didn’t really attempt to deviate from this, apart from having a main character who’s poor.”
    I can agree with you, if you took this series at the same level as all other series. However, that is precisely why I cannot. This series is a parody and that’s why you can’t really judge it on that basis since what you just commented on was exactly what the makers wanted to comment on. This show pokes fun of anime stereotypes/cliches (especially character cliches). Also, if anything seemed forced, like Honey’s character (which I agree with) it is likely a result of this ‘parody’ or because the anime producers had to wrap things up without including full character development (the manga didn’t finish yet). Or it could be a combo of the two.

  21. Sarah says:

    Sorry, one more thing to add. One thing I really do agree on is Haruhi. I really don’t think she was developed enough in comparison to the rest of the characters, in particular the twins and Tamaki who received amazing development, and yes, she did end up seeming a bit stale. But once again – I think the reason was because the manga didn’t end yet. The last episode gave a bit more insight into her character at least.

  22. Gaby says:

    I see how you can think this, a favorite of yours being Utena. Ouran just parodies what Utena deconstructs. Just look at the concept of princes of each show – Tamaki’s behavior in Ouran, and Akio in Utena, along with the many, many other ways the latter toys with the idea. Ouran just seems silly in comparison.

    You can find nice characters and sentimentality anywhere.

  23. Mallorie says:

    One of my favorite aspects of Ouran was the parody angle. Stereotypes were taken to over-the-top levels intentionally, and for the sake of comedy, and it really worked for the series.

    Wish Hunny and Mori got fleshed out a little more, and I agree with some of your criticisms on Haruhi. However, I also agree with Sarah, in that the last two episodes helped her grow a little.

  24. Kitty says:

    I fear the author, unfortunately, didn’t pick up on the subtle satire this anime so artfully utilizes.

  25. Miru-kun says:

    Please read this long message before jumping to conclusions.

    I first heard of Ouran in 2008 from a fanmade video on Youtube. Since I needed a new anime to watch I decided to try it out. I have to say this truthfully, when I first watched it the internet was very slow and I could only get through half of the first episode and that was enough for me. I was bored and thought nothing about it, but kept it on my long list of animes I never finished just in case it popped up in a conversation; never watched it though.
    Now it is the great year of 2010 and I’m looking for an anime site to watch new animes. I asked my friend for a site and she asked me what animes I had already finished (at this point in time I had only finished one series with a lot that I hadn’t watched completely). She asked for a list of animes that I hadn’t finished and I told her the list that included Ouran; she said I needed to finish that one first and then she would give me the sites, so of course I watched it.
    I don’t know what happened the first time I watched, but I instantly became hooked all the way until the last episode, in which I cried because it was over (I’m a huge wuss). Ouran to that date is my all time favorite anime, so much that I told all my friends about it and made my cousin watch it. They loved it too. If I had to rate it I’d give it a 90/100. No anime is perfect, but few are good enough to make me cry and laugh so hard. It’s comedy and it’s supposed to make you laugh with sterotypes and other annoying things. Some how the characters weren’t the usual sterotype though. Tamaki can come off as the blonde airhead that only cares about his beauty, but he so much more than that.
    Still have to disagree with that rating like most of the people here.
    (I’m a Kyoya fan by the way :)

  26. Firechick says:

    I don’t disrespect your opinion, psgels, but I will admit that I really like this anime (though I need to finish watching the dub). You also forgot to mention that Haruhi (sarcasm girl) isn’t one of those whiny female leads who need to be rescued and scooped up by bishounen every 3 seconds (*coughHakuokicough*) and actually tries to be independent. That’s what I mostly like about her. This is one of the first 26 episode anime that I actually managed to finish watching when I began becoming ambitious about anime (when I was around 12-13 years old). I do kind of feel that you rated this a tad low.

  27. bia says:

    i began re-watching ouran for the last 3 days and boy,it reminded me of how much i love it.
    for me ouran is a rare find,i have never enjoyed an anime this much and rewatched it so many times i’ve lost count.the characters are pretty likeable,sometimes downright hilarious especially tamaki.
    the only thing i didn’t like was the ending it felt like it was forced.but overall i had so much fun watching ouran.i honestly think this deserves a 90+ rating.

  28. bia says:

    i began re-watching ouran for the last 3 days and boy,it reminded me of how much i love it.
    for me ouran is a rare find,i have never enjoyed an anime this much and rewatched it so many times i’ve lost count.the characters are pretty likeable,sometimes downright hilarious especially tamaki.
    the only thing i didn’t like was the ending it felt like it was forced.but overall i had so much fun watching ouran.i honestly think this deserves a 90+ rating.

  29. ManuOtaku says:

    Psgels i respect your opinion, and this is my second years seen your reviews, and strongly believe that you have a keen eye to capture the failures and good points for animes on all departments.
    Having said that i think you didnt get ouran for what it is a very well done satire, a good reverse harem with really strong characters (over the top i must say), i believe you only had two missteps on all your reviews, this one of course and welcome to the NHK, both of these series are really special and deserve it a better score comming from you, but like i said is your opinion and i respect, but do not share it though.

  30. kura says:

    I can’t agree with your review. It took me just 2 episodes to run out to the book store and purchase all the available Ouran manga volumes. This anime is one of the best that I’ve ever watched, whether in animation quality, humour and characterization. There may not have been much of a plot but it is understandable as the anime covers a small part of the manga. The ending of the anime might not have been so good because it was a filler made up by the anime production team but I still love this series. I’d rate it a 95/100 imo.

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Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Currently downloading okja.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Basically I thought, especially since the manga was only three chapters long the movie could have benefited from a tighter runtime but made up for it by being emotionally involving.
I’m content with giving it three stars and its made me want to spend my weekend watching films multiple about Hiroshima.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: allowing them to deliver on the emotions promised because the film spends so much time on her daily life.
I liked how the voice acting didn’t really feel like anime voice acting. You sort of get used to the character designs eventually.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: This film, early on had many slice of lifey moments that I felt mixed on, on one hand they border on a bit plodding/slight, yet the comedy bits they put in actually kind of amuses, despite them going on too long, it allows you to get attached to this woman for when the sad parts show up ,
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As I said recently , today would be the day I saw in this corner of the world, I just got back from it.
I’ll start by saying that I don’t feel its worthy of the 5 stars its receiving, nor would it hold up to Kuroi Ame by Imamura Shohei or Takahata’s grave of the fireflies.
Anonymous1218982
KT here: Next RE:Creators episode seems to be a gag episode. Not sure how I feel, though obviously the creators need a break.
SuperMario
yeah, usually 1 small arc = 2 to 3 episodes. We have 3 mini arc left so I would say about 6 episodes
AidanAK47
Actually from what I hear, there isn't enough material left in Owarimonogatari to make a full course. Seems like it's one volume with would equal 6 episodes at best.
AidanAK47
Like hell. There's about five more Monogataris to adapt. Anyway it's not that you are not getting it but rather instead of one cour it's going to be all aired within two days as specials. The runtime of the specials is up for debate but you are still getting it.
SuperMario
the loss of the FINAL one, you mean.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I wouldn't grin evilly about it but there's like over ten Monogatari animes. Kinda hard to be sad over the loss of one.
SuperMario
According to ANN, this new Owarimonogatari will be a special 2-day events, which honestly I don't know what that even means. Most of you might grin your evil grin right now but I'm crying inside with that news.
SuperMario
The LWA finale didn't do much for me sadly. Croi's roles as a main antagonist is just not good. And I feel like in the end I don't know much about Suzy or Lotte. I think the worse episode for me was the one right after the twist about why Akko can't perform magic, because it's as Aidan said
KT
Thus Little Witch Academia comes to an end. I will miss it. Despite the mistake IMHO of the Croix Arc, this was a good series, and the last episode went back to the very elements that made me love it at the start. It was a happy series, and gave me a warm fuzzy feeling in some hard times. I thank it for it. It could had been exceptional, but I guess they wanted to try something more.Ah well.
AidanAK47
Really glad they used that Scarborough fair song one last time before the finale. I really love that song.
Anonymous1215349
SukaSuka's finale was beautiful, a great way to end a great anime.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I guess the big question I have is, do the character interactions coupled with what assume will be some kind of tragedy element work together well enough to make the viewer care and invest in the characters?
AidanAK47
So that's the end of SukaSuka. Better than I thought it would be. Honestly didn't give it enough of a chance in my preview. As far as light novel adaptions go it's above average. Though it does still suffer from it's cliches. Nothing outstanding but a worthwhile watch nontheless.
Anonymous1214845
Have you seen Shonen Jump is making an international manga contest? https://medibang.com/jumpplus/entry/
SuperMario
@Lenlo: you know it when you see it. At first I didn't believe they jumped the shark, but based on the events after that twist, yep it has settled for something much cheaper imo.
Lenlo
For Bahamut, im still enjoying it and we have another cour to go. I think it, and the first Bahamut, are good shows. For Kado, im only on ep 4 so im very curious what shark gets jumped
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think given the pace I'll watch 1-2 or 2-3 episodes of re creators instead of once a week.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In the end Bahamut suffered the same fate as the first one, I could never call it a bad show, I just never ended up feeling it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've given my thoughts on tsuki ga kirei before on here but I'll add by saying that I never expected it and uchouten 2 (despite the weak wrap up I liked the lead up) to be my favourite of the season.
Kaiser-Eoghan
About five years ago or so could have seen myself really having been in the mood for LWA.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wasn't as impressed with Uchoutens finale as Mario was,I found myself more annoyed by how clumsily done it all was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
For me kado jumped the shark with its latest direction and Aidans review along with flicking through this weeks episode kind of confirms I'm done with the show. A show I was initially unsure of but thought might become something.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Yeah....at least LWA's finale was pretty good and I think there's a possibility of a second season. With the Criox/Chariot plot line out of the way I say they could really bank on it's potential. Even if they don't, this series was still quite enjoyable.
Anonymous1211365
Man I couldn't agree more with Aidan about LWA and Kado. I still like and enjoy Kado but damn it could have been so much more.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ntr trap appears to be a non-seinen/shounen yuri manga given its publication magazine.
Vonter
Not all people work as fast, but that's what companies expect nowadays. Which is why CGI is preferred over practical effects. Or even why anime has used more 3D that painted backgrounds, cars or other props that take time and work to be drawn.
Vonter
No. I get deadlines are tough. Companies and customers want everything made as fast as humanly possible, yet reality is that making things good takes time and money. I wouldn't be surprised that's why Berserk comes out every 6 months, the art is too detailed and the story is slow paced. Yet the anime was planned to be made in a year or two so it's evident either way, crunch is expected.
Lenlo
I think you misunderstood what he meant when he said the industry was a mess. Mangaka routinely work themselves into a hospital because of the demanding schedule
Vonter
Then there's the franchise appeal. Which inherently gains something because of persistence, awareness and name. It is hard when great visual effort is mainly put in things that are guaranteed to be a hit, because original stuff tend to make mistakes to find their own identity. Which in itself makes them very risky affairs.
Vonter
It's also a heavy flaw of the internet, having mainly binary opinions of good or bad. Which makes it hard to tell if you'll like something in the 7s like Nier or Alien 3 (might not be a 7 but opinions make it sound like it is). Divisive products that may or not may suit one's tastes.
Vonter
Personally I think the issue has become what suits your tastes, what are you willing to give a chance and what hits beyond the medium it is presented.
Vonter
@AidanAK47 "Manga in general is great but Jesus Christ the industry is a mess". - I mean, movies, games, and other entertainment have the same issue, since everyone has a big slice of the pie, yet there are like a million things competing for one's attention.
SuperMario
On that note, apart from the 3 shows I'n currently covering (Eccentric Family, Tsuki ga Kirei and ID-0), I will give a full review on Grimoire of Zero, a show that I feel rather difficult to pinpoint exactly on its quality.
SuperMario
Can't believe we approaching the final week of this current season. Gonna be a busy week of blogging with the usual weekly posts plus the final impressions.
SuperMario
@Anon1206174: I agree with you on both counts. And Sakura Quest has never been bad, but it could have been deeper and less messy. If you plan to watch ID-0 (I suggest you do), don't get your expectation too high because it works much better when you expect nothing of it. Like each episode I was genuinely surprised how good ID-0 actually is.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember one of Aidan's visual novel posts where he said theres potentially hundreds of VNs un-translated and LNs too, makes me wonder just how much un-translated manga we are missing out on.
Anonymous1206174
The ID-o posts sound pretty interesting, I am really thinking of dropping Sakura and watching this instead. Really loved the beginnign of Sakura and that abandoned town atmosphere it had, but I am not feeling it anymore. The recent episode about Shiori was great again though..
Kaiser-Eoghan
*looking
Then again he's an extremely forgetable person.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh Godammit, looing back over my comments I meant to say Souta not Setsuna, I suck at remembering non-English names.
Anonymous1205999
Meh - I really like this season but I already have my first cases of 'good-show-disappointing-ending/second half'
Anonymous1206022
KT Here:RE:Creators , we need to know more about the rules for Altair to see if that works. It might, and it might not. With what they know they have a good plan. But I was thinking why not just do a Super Smash Bros type game with the characters? I am sure that would generate enough stuff in order to lock her.
SuperMario
On Re:Creators, I find a better solution instead of going all cross-media like the show suggests. Someone could just make some fan-fiction on Altair that purposely show her weakness (like get busted when expose to the sun, or the magic word that render her skills useless). Less efforts, more effective
SuperMario
Man, I agree wholeheartedly with what KT said here: mass media actually sells, so it keeps the industry to a more stable position; then the art-house/more adult oriented anime can have some freedom to do what they like.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its more that I have to read it all at the same time as expecting action to come , it might change my mind if I watched it in English.
Anonymous1205580
KT here: I accept the mass media because it raises the funds for the less mainstream stuff I like. That is how I make my peace.

On RE:Creators. I get what you guys say. But for some reason I do not find the exposition heavy in this series. Every person has his own limit I guess
Alonaria
@Kaiser: Yep, that sounds about right, lol. I take my Sheldon in concentrated doses. I might give the Young Sheldon spin off an episode or two because it's highly exaggerated but still somewhat relatable to me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel big bang theory is a show for people who know nothing about nerds/nerd culture to find funny.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And then theres this thing about Sheldon being some kind of autism spectrum thing , which is kind of annoying to hear when I am on the spectrum myself and never really found the character all that amusing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Probably not the strongest reason to go off a show but, it was people around me going on and on about big bang theory that eventually put me off it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
lol is it any surprise Miura and the hunter x hunter guy take so many breaks =P
Alonaria
*Sheldon
Alonaria
I pick and choose Big Bang episodes that I enjoy. Shelden in the ball pit never ceases to amuse me. Still, it's definitely overrated haha.
Lenlo
IT Crowd > Modern Big Bang. Early Big Bang was good.

And yes, the work conditions in the Manga Industry are terrible. Oda, One Piece Mangaka, works stupid hours. He requests his assistances be "Willing to die for One Piece" because of the amount of work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And hell yeah"! someone else thats hates on big bang theory.
IT crowd > big bang.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more safer
Kaiser-Eoghan
And yet now here I am at same time, I think it might be kind of a shame that I can't see the value and fun anymore in some less safer offerings.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I thinking I might go insane if I looked up comments defending the visuals in occultic; nine.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hate to say it but sometimes opinions, mainstream ones are actually wrong. Its a fact that superhero films have bad action scenes and cinematography and Hardboiled, a chinese action film is better filmed in terms of choreography.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As dickish as this is to say, I really do recoil when ssomeone says something like the Notebook or fifty shades is the best film of all time/their favourite.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See theres also factoring in the people whos favourite film or anime of all is the most recent they finished.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember mentioning recently that I was re-watching the twilight zone, the response I got was "I thought that you were talking about twilight"
Kaiser-Eoghan
See thats whats so great about being able to talk about more niche stuff online, theres an easier to find common ground.
AidanAK47
In general when it comes to mass popular opinion it's the tried and true safe stuff that ends up selling. The highest selling Mario games are the New Super Mario ones. The same generic Light novel and harems keep selling. There are plenty of examples but majority opinion tends to gravitate to the safe and familiar.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See, most (offline) people (and or teenagers)who aren't really all that interested in film or don't look into it that much will turn out for things like fifty shades, transformers or twilight, thats why those are popular. Most people aren't going to watch something made more than a few years ago or subtitled.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh...lol fuck thats a blunder...yes I meant Re:creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But by all means, people are fully entitled to like what they like. But there is a reason why so much rubbish gets popular.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Re:Creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As someone who would actually consider themselves creative and interested in things being imaginative I really do hate the whole anti-creativity /anti-art, anti-intelligence movement and way of thinking that allows un-deservedly popular things like what Aidan mentioned to fester.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yes Re:zero's poor pacing and leaden dialogue is becoming too dominant and there should be more action, its good Setsuna opened up, but I still don't particularly like him.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine the magazines/editors probably consider themselves the writers sometimes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pretty sure I only read nisekoi because I was keeping up with conversations about it, then dropped it before the Chitoge doublie showed up, just stopped reading.
AidanAK47
On the matter of Re:Creators, I feel the same as the Anon said. I find the exposition to just drone on far too much.
AidanAK47
On the matter of the manga industry being shit...it is. Manga in general is great but Jesus Christ the industry is a mess. Work conditions are utterly abhorrent and it's even worse that most series live or die based on a magazine popularity poll.
Because just because something is popular, does not mean it is quality. Example: Transformers, Twilight, Fifty shades, Sword Art Online, Big Bang theory
AidanAK47
@Anon, Still not getting your logic here. I mean if I have a problem with it after trying it then why am I not allowed to complain about it? Anyway it is only popular for the pandering. Even those who like Nisekoi admit that it's a mediocre harem and they mainly enjoy the waifu wars on the internet.
SuperMario
and now we will resort to illegal streaming sites for this one. "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem", this f*cking true
SuperMario
Huh? Welcome to the Ballroom Anime Gets Amazon Prime-Only Streaming Inside and Outside Japan. Now that just unbearable
SuperMario
Don't know about this new Re:Creators episode since I haven't watched it, but I don't really mind Meteora. Her dialogues scream "exposition" but she still fits well to the story. The fights are good, I agree, but why didn't they go all the way with the world's collapse last episode?
Anonymous1202407
Whether Nisekoi is pandering or not, it is not enough proof for you to suggest that manga industry is shit. If u want good mainstream then its not that hard to find. Also for every success like Nisekoi which u claim to be pandering, there are dozen like it that failed to be popular. Why? Because it clearly is popular for a reason other than just simple pandering.
SuperMario
Ha, Ping Pong. I need that kind of show again in my life.
Lenlo
Also, Ping Pong is amazing.
Lenlo
Theres a difference between pandering to a large audience, and an anime/manga with a quality story that everyone ends up liking. Ive always found moe shows and things like Nisekoi to be the former.
Anonymous1202407
If you have a problem with it after trying it just dont read it. Its that simple. Also what a surprise that a show like nisekoi that appeals to a large demographic is popular. U want the mangaka to apologize it's not some art house story like Ping Pong?
Lenlo
Meteora is pretty hit or miss with her dialogue imo. Sometimes its great, othertimes its not. I can say though I enjoy most of the fights.
Anonymous1202113
I really want to like Re:Creators. To be honest though, I'm getting tired of the dialogue. It has its high points, but it sometimes just seems to drone on and on, especially with all of Meteora's "hypotheses."
KT
Both Bahamut and RE:Creators had great episodes. But I was indeed mentally screaming Super Smash Bros at RE:Creators. You will get the point when you watch the episode.
AidanAK47
Taken on it's own, Nisekoi is harmless. But it is undeniably proof that you need not be creative or innovative to succeed in the industry. In fact declaring creative bankruptcy could turn more fruitful than genuine effort.
AidanAK47
And I said how can you decide you don't like something if you haven't read it?
Of course you are likely mean that if you don't like something then give up on reading it further which of course does not mean that someone cannot complain about it regardless.
Anonymous1198985
No, Im said if you dont like nisekoi dont read it
AidanAK47
@Anon, How do you know you don't like it if you don't read it?
Anonymous1196967
Don't like it don't read it.
AidanAK47
I went and read Double Arts. This really was a great manga with tons of potentail and truly didn't deserve the axe. It's so depressing that this was cut off so soon and the author went on to make the most generic Harem ever Nisekoi, and that got over 200 chapters.
Lenlo
All of the important dance scenes for Yuri were fantastic, its just some minor one off characters and some reused ones that were an issue, so no they are better than the CGI
Anonymous1190387
Is it worse than those CGI dance scenes in some anime?
AidanAK47
@Puran, It is pretty surprising how well that story turns out. I say IG might do the job even if there animation isn't the most consistent. The one thing I am worried about is those necks though. In the PV those things were ridiculously long.
Puran
Fair enough, recycling the animation was bad, agreed. But the animation itself was really good.
Lenlo
See, I found the repeated dances in Yuri one of the worse parts. Alot of it was recycled animation and certain characters were obviously rushed/not done. Some were amazing, cause they took their time, but others looked terrible.
Puran
I kinda wish Mappa was doing the anime though. Yuri on Ice had really nicely animated dances (and was more or less the only actually good quality of that show :P )
Puran
Reading the Ballroom e Youkoso manga has made me really excited about the Anime.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Aidan: I'm particularly turned off by bully/bullying cliches these days. I've only read the first two volumes to see how awful she was but I ended up simply losing track of the series and stopped reading.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Mario: Actually that has changed, I had to pick a different day to see it given changes in schedule, I've booked it for NEXT Wednesday now. I've watched Akira about four times.
AidanAK47
Oh, Rising of the Shield Hero is getting an anime adaption. Hmmm...honestly after finishing the series and looking over it as a whole I am not sure I even want that. Plus seeing Bitch Animated...would fill me with rage.
SuperMario
I intend to re-watch Akira soon, probably this weekend. It has been almost 10 years since my first watch and now I don't remember much about that one. Thought it was intriguing and complex but not as acclaimed as people hyped it to be (I'll pick Ghost in the Shell anytime). Wonder how I'd feel now after re-watching it.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I remember you mentioned that you were going to watch In this Corner of the World today right? How was the movie Kaiser?
Lenlo
Oh cool, food wars is getting a 3rd season
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ballroom youkoso appears to be leading the polls.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Fumiko is a female mangaka yes. Also I found bokura no hentai worth reading.
SuperMario
yep, I finished that manga too and I have conflicted feeling about it. Yuri(!) part and fanservice are to blatant but they have a purpose. This mangaka (not sure but I think she's a girl) has some unique voice.
AidanAK47
....well I skimmed that manga. And it was weird
SuperMario
By all appearances,Sakura is normal,albeit sheltered junior high school girl who enjoy talking about love and walking home from school together.However,they also happen to inhabit a strange and supernatural world populated by mysterious,gigantic beings and unusual plant and animal life.Amid their peaceful lives,Sakura becomes very interested in something only alluded to exist in old books: dicks
SuperMario
Here's a synopsis of other manga from the same author, I think you'll have a better idea of his theme -
Sakura no Sono
AidanAK47
Pretty much what Masky said. I am not really praising it. Anyway I plan to read one or two more chapters to see where it's going. But if it's going in the direction I think it's going then I am dropping this one fast.
Kaiser_Eoghan
There is of course the underlying concern that it will go a very ugly route with that development or it could become edgy/horribly minipulative, but for now it is as mario said, a hook.
SuperMario
Well. overall I don't dislike what I read there. It has good hook and I'm intrigued to know more what the hell will happen. Good set-up for me. I'm in
SuperMario
@Masky: it's fine Masky, since I will chec itk out any way and see it for myself ^^
Masky
So since you guys started being interested, I checked it out and uh.. Yeah, not reading. I think ye guys misunderstood Aidans warnings since that was just fucked up and not in the interesting way.
Lenlo
@Aidan: Berserk will never again go more than 3-4 months without a hiatus.
SuperMario
Hmmm, that manga Cutie Mutie sounds good to me. I might check it out later today
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: But had you not alluded to that scene, I may have seen the cover of that manga and skipped over it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I had a feeling, sort of, sad, I am intrigued to read more.
AidanAK47
Hyping and warning are not the same thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well with Aidan hyping up the horrors of cutie mutie I may as well glance at it to see what he' on about.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There are three manga with the name rec.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am familiar with the artist for cutie mutie, she did that manga about the three kids dealing with gender/orientation issues.
AidanAK47
Oh look Berserk is on Haitus again....
.....the sad thing is that it comes as expected now.
AidanAK47
For reference the two I read were Cutie Mutie and Rec. Be warned, the first one goes to a rather uncomfortable level.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Read two manga. One started lighthearted and then went to really dark territory. The other one looks like it's about a really dark subject but turned out to be something more lighthearted.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Alright. Tested it now so it such be fixed. Try again.
Masky
@Aidan: Huh? What you read that turned dark/didn't turn dark? .-.
SuperMario
"too many answers selected for question 1! only 3 answers allowed!"
SuperMario
@Aidan: I still have the same issues. Weird
AidanAK47
@Mario, Wasn't my intent. Try it now and you should be able to pick as many as you want.
SuperMario
@Aidan: I'm not allowed to vote more than 3 votes. Is it your intention Aidan?
AidanAK47
Well that was weird. I read something that looked innocent but turned out to be really dark. Then something that looked really dark only to become innocent.
Masky
Yeah, nothing that interests me I see :D Like my strongest reaction to season preview was "Someone made isekai with smartphone? Really? REALLY? Thats best idea you had"
Masky
Ah Knighs and Magic, found that manga. It was boring enough for me to forget its name. Also besides being boring, I kinda find MC unlikeable since their only personality is that they like mechas and were a programmer before renicarnating as short bishie kid
Masky
Woo, time to vote stuff
SuperMario
@Kaiser: that movie In this Corner just getting more and more acclaimed huh? Thou I think it'a a type of movie that if you have high expectation for it you will likely be disappointed. It works best as a sleeper hit
SuperMario
As for cute monster girls, most of the time I don't find them cute at all. I know I'm being racist, but...
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm guilty with that cute girls genre, as i enjoyed K-On tremedously for example. Or If I have more time I'd follow Hinako Note this season ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
They don't always adapt all that well or work as well outside of manga format, especially 4-komas.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*three
Kaiser-Eoghan
The only two of any interest were hidamari sketch, azumanga daioh and yuru yuri and that was largely down to being in the mood for them a few years ago.
Lenlo
@Mario: Personally, I have 0 interest in this Monster girls doing cute things subgenre, just like I have very little interest in the cute girls doing cute things major genre.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As it turns out I DID read in this corner of the world. I'll also be seeing it next thursday.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: at this moment I'm very skeptical with the whole Monster girls doing cute girl subgenre, so I'm approachig Centaur with a caution. Of course, it all depends on how I feel after the first episode
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