Posted by psgels on 28 September 2006 with categories: Anime Reviews


Ouran is a high-school comedy-drama with a twist: the school this anime takes place in is only for the children of the richest parents in Japan. It’s meant for those children who are able to spend a huge amount of money. The only way for non-rich people to get in the school is to have exceptionally good grades.

Well then, for some reason, rich people don’t have to do any homework, so they huge amounts of time to spend. This anime is about the Host Club of this school. It’s basically a way for the rich people to spend their time. The club consists out of a group of bishounen, who all entertain the ladies who come to the host club. Then, a female, pretending to be a male joins the club, and the anime starts.

Ouran’s strength is its novelty. The bad thing is that it doesn’t seem to realize this. I’m afraid to say it, but most of the episodes, this anime just keeps milking on old concepts they already tried, up to the point at which things just become incredibly boring. An example of this is our main character’s sarcasm. When this gets used in the first episode, it’s funny. Same in the second episode. But when she reacts the same way in over twenty episodes, the fun quickly dies. It’s a darn shame, as the episodes which introduce new things really worked out. Both in comedy as in drama.

You can really see this in the episodes in which one or two particular characters stand in the spotlights. All these episodes basically to is retell things from other episodes, only a bit changed and twisted in order to make them look unique. It’s also strange that the annoying characters get three or four episodes for themselves, while another character doesn’t get even half of an episode. Still, this made the latter one of the better characters.

Still, I have to admit, in terms of character development, the characters of Ouran are very fleshed out. The episodes do give characters the chance of showing their unique cases, and later in the series, you can spot the changes. While this does look boring the moment when you see it, the overall picture that this gives is impressive.

Like I said, some of the characters are unique. Others, however, do not fit in this anime. The image of a small, cute, cuddly child who happens to be the strongest master of martial arts on the planet was just too forced. I also didn’t like the fact that being the richest also automatically means being the strongest, smartest, best, or any other superior element. The creators also didn’t really attempt to deviate from this, apart from having a main character who’s poor. But even then there’s no emphasis put on this, which is a shame, as it’s an interesting subject.

Overall, Ouran did have its very good moments. Some episodes were just hilarious. It’s just too bad that these good episodes were surrounded by bad episodes. Still, it remains a fairly good comedy, and the drama aspects were fine. It’ll be a fine watch, although boring at times.

30 Responses

  1. I think the great speciality in Ouran lies in the face expressions. They were such a great laugh sometimes, and I haven’t seen another anime that can be so funny just in the face expressions.

    Further it’s just like you said. Ouran can be fun but overall, it’s also very boring.

  2. Angelle says:

    I think the mangaka intentionally created weird, stereotypical characters (such as the cutest looking one is the oldest, the guy with the glasses thinks only about profit, etc.) so that we realize the stupidity through the eyes of sarcasm girl. Furthermore, you cannot expect drastic character changes because in real life, nobody changes that fast within one year. That is another strength of the show; the characters develop just a little. ^^”
    I do agree though that there were some boring moments, for me especially in the middle with all the forced drama and hardly anything enlightening in between.

  3. helspectre says:

    you know, of all the people and things and Ouran, I’m only interesting in Tamaki and Kyouya mainly. The rest are a tad wierd.

  4. Bri says:

    I LUV THIS ANIME!!!! I HOPE THEY DECIDE TO SHOW A SECIND SEASON!!!!! IF NOT IM SUEING!!!! -kisses to Hikaru!!!!!- I HEART U!!!!! -and to Kaoru as well-…. they’re all hot but the twins..are the hottest!!!

  5. jennifer says:

    I love tamaki! he is my favourite whos your favourite?

  6. psgels psgels says:

    Mori, of course. :P

  7. Imbroco says:

    I’ve got to disagree with this one — it’s one of my all time favorites. I found it both touching and uproarious. Simply my oppinion, but I’d give it at least a 95.

  8. demon says:

    hmm..think anime is funny…good comedy? yea…and the characters are kinda cute…[ hot..like u guys said ] the face expression is very good too~ thats why i love it..i am nvr bored about it…[ but still…sometimes] but overall…like u all said…its a nice anime..XD

  9. Sakura says:

    I love….Tamaki he’s so kawaii

  10. HITACHIIN FANS! says:

    This anime is awsome! I can’t express it but I’m totally addicting to it!!! but sadlly, there is no 2nd season, I’m sure of it! my fav. character is kyouya and hikaru! I can’t write Hika/Haru fics coz of Kaoru!when I’m almost done writting my masterpiece and the main role was Haru/hika but when it came at the end at the last minute i said : Wait! What happens to Kaoru then?!” sometimes I feel like Kaoru is in the way of his brother and haruhi’s relationship although he means well, he is willing to sacrifice his love for haruhi and supprot his broother…so I always ended up always making it Kyouya and Haruhi fics….I don’t like Tamaki! I kinda Hate him…most of the twins’ fans never did like him, but now their hatred for him outright by demanding he cease anywhere near Haruhi! You rock guys!

    Hands down to Bisco HAtori!

  11. Jamila says:

    I can’t agree, especially, because you don’t seem to get that it’s a parody of all shojos that do that.

  12. Oya says:

    Hm…I think that this anime isn’t as bad as you had review.
    I had good fun watching it!

  13. JUST CALL ME PISSED OURAN FANGIRL! >. says:

    ……..I’M SORRY BUT WHO THE FUCKING HELL R U 2 SAY “THIS IS A CRAPPY SERIES”!!!!!!! >_.

  14. Serenade says:

    I disagree with the rating! D8 (Objection~!)

    Ouran is /meant/ to be outrageously stereoptypical and annoying — to the point of hilarious. It’s crazy, random, overdramatic, loud, flamboyant… and that’s its very purpose.

    The ultimate strength of the anime is its characters; each has his/her specific place and specialty (Tamaki – king, Kyouya – Scrooge, Haruhi – sarcastic voice of reason), but as the show progresses (in between bouts of laughter) we find that these characters actually do not fit solely into their outrageous stereotypes. They are simply people, and as Tamaki says, contradictions are what makes a personality.

    And personally, I didn’t find any of the characters annoying — not even Renge, after a while. The point is not to take them seriously, because 90% of the time, they’re just being crazy teenagers. I love Honey-senpai, and I never tire of Haruhi’s cynical, down-to-earth comments. I think that the show’s absolute insanity is perfectly interspersed with touches of reality (from the poor folk, o’ course).

    It’s really great; you just have to go with the eccentric flow. I’d give it a 90+.

  15. Serenade says:

    Mah favoritez are Hikaru/Kaoru. =3

  16. stephen007 says:

    Oh man, I too will have to disagree with this review, well as they say everyone has their own thoughts and views. I’d probably rate this one 90+, and i think majority of people who watched this series will do so…

  17. Stephen007 says:

    Wow, the way you explained your thoughts about this series is well done! You also pointed out things that most Ouran Fans wouldn’t notice. A very interesting point of view, i think the reason youre able to point them out us because you’ve already watched ALOT of anime series (Was it 300+?). Which probably makes you a good critic of anime. People who watched only a few series will probably think youre nuts considering ouran might be one of the best of those few series that they have, hahaha.

    BUT STILL, i have to say the score is TOO LOW, i will still rate it around 90 or above. Were all waiting for you to change the rating and make it higher or expect alot more angry mobs for this blog. lolz

  18. ceillo says:

    I think your expectation for this series was too high. It’s a comedy and it was made to make people laugh. I for one couldn’t stop laughing while I watched this, and I still did the second time around. The great thing about this anime was of course the animation, it was absolutely gorgeous. I really appreciated this aspect when I watched Special A, god that was pitiful. Overall I would rate Ouran High School Host Club 89+ for a job well done.

  19. monica says:

    um…i thought this anime series was great. it was hilarious but ceillo dont diss special a. it was a pretty good anime though ouran high school host club is way better. i found special A a decent series. i felt like i had to say thid since you were the only one who mentioned it. i would rate ouran high school host club 95+, oh yeah why is everyone giving it a 90+. please give this anime higher ratings!

  20. Sarah says:

    “I also didn’t like the fact that being the richest also automatically means being the strongest, smartest, best, or any other superior element. The creators also didn’t really attempt to deviate from this, apart from having a main character who’s poor.”
    I can agree with you, if you took this series at the same level as all other series. However, that is precisely why I cannot. This series is a parody and that’s why you can’t really judge it on that basis since what you just commented on was exactly what the makers wanted to comment on. This show pokes fun of anime stereotypes/cliches (especially character cliches). Also, if anything seemed forced, like Honey’s character (which I agree with) it is likely a result of this ‘parody’ or because the anime producers had to wrap things up without including full character development (the manga didn’t finish yet). Or it could be a combo of the two.

  21. Sarah says:

    Sorry, one more thing to add. One thing I really do agree on is Haruhi. I really don’t think she was developed enough in comparison to the rest of the characters, in particular the twins and Tamaki who received amazing development, and yes, she did end up seeming a bit stale. But once again – I think the reason was because the manga didn’t end yet. The last episode gave a bit more insight into her character at least.

  22. Gaby says:

    I see how you can think this, a favorite of yours being Utena. Ouran just parodies what Utena deconstructs. Just look at the concept of princes of each show – Tamaki’s behavior in Ouran, and Akio in Utena, along with the many, many other ways the latter toys with the idea. Ouran just seems silly in comparison.

    You can find nice characters and sentimentality anywhere.

  23. Mallorie says:

    One of my favorite aspects of Ouran was the parody angle. Stereotypes were taken to over-the-top levels intentionally, and for the sake of comedy, and it really worked for the series.

    Wish Hunny and Mori got fleshed out a little more, and I agree with some of your criticisms on Haruhi. However, I also agree with Sarah, in that the last two episodes helped her grow a little.

  24. Kitty says:

    I fear the author, unfortunately, didn’t pick up on the subtle satire this anime so artfully utilizes.

  25. Miru-kun says:

    Please read this long message before jumping to conclusions.

    I first heard of Ouran in 2008 from a fanmade video on Youtube. Since I needed a new anime to watch I decided to try it out. I have to say this truthfully, when I first watched it the internet was very slow and I could only get through half of the first episode and that was enough for me. I was bored and thought nothing about it, but kept it on my long list of animes I never finished just in case it popped up in a conversation; never watched it though.
    Now it is the great year of 2010 and I’m looking for an anime site to watch new animes. I asked my friend for a site and she asked me what animes I had already finished (at this point in time I had only finished one series with a lot that I hadn’t watched completely). She asked for a list of animes that I hadn’t finished and I told her the list that included Ouran; she said I needed to finish that one first and then she would give me the sites, so of course I watched it.
    I don’t know what happened the first time I watched, but I instantly became hooked all the way until the last episode, in which I cried because it was over (I’m a huge wuss). Ouran to that date is my all time favorite anime, so much that I told all my friends about it and made my cousin watch it. They loved it too. If I had to rate it I’d give it a 90/100. No anime is perfect, but few are good enough to make me cry and laugh so hard. It’s comedy and it’s supposed to make you laugh with sterotypes and other annoying things. Some how the characters weren’t the usual sterotype though. Tamaki can come off as the blonde airhead that only cares about his beauty, but he so much more than that.
    Still have to disagree with that rating like most of the people here.
    (I’m a Kyoya fan by the way :)

  26. Firechick says:

    I don’t disrespect your opinion, psgels, but I will admit that I really like this anime (though I need to finish watching the dub). You also forgot to mention that Haruhi (sarcasm girl) isn’t one of those whiny female leads who need to be rescued and scooped up by bishounen every 3 seconds (*coughHakuokicough*) and actually tries to be independent. That’s what I mostly like about her. This is one of the first 26 episode anime that I actually managed to finish watching when I began becoming ambitious about anime (when I was around 12-13 years old). I do kind of feel that you rated this a tad low.

  27. bia says:

    i began re-watching ouran for the last 3 days and boy,it reminded me of how much i love it.
    for me ouran is a rare find,i have never enjoyed an anime this much and rewatched it so many times i’ve lost count.the characters are pretty likeable,sometimes downright hilarious especially tamaki.
    the only thing i didn’t like was the ending it felt like it was forced.but overall i had so much fun watching ouran.i honestly think this deserves a 90+ rating.

  28. bia says:

    i began re-watching ouran for the last 3 days and boy,it reminded me of how much i love it.
    for me ouran is a rare find,i have never enjoyed an anime this much and rewatched it so many times i’ve lost count.the characters are pretty likeable,sometimes downright hilarious especially tamaki.
    the only thing i didn’t like was the ending it felt like it was forced.but overall i had so much fun watching ouran.i honestly think this deserves a 90+ rating.

  29. ManuOtaku says:

    Psgels i respect your opinion, and this is my second years seen your reviews, and strongly believe that you have a keen eye to capture the failures and good points for animes on all departments.
    Having said that i think you didnt get ouran for what it is a very well done satire, a good reverse harem with really strong characters (over the top i must say), i believe you only had two missteps on all your reviews, this one of course and welcome to the NHK, both of these series are really special and deserve it a better score comming from you, but like i said is your opinion and i respect, but do not share it though.

  30. kura says:

    I can’t agree with your review. It took me just 2 episodes to run out to the book store and purchase all the available Ouran manga volumes. This anime is one of the best that I’ve ever watched, whether in animation quality, humour and characterization. There may not have been much of a plot but it is understandable as the anime covers a small part of the manga. The ending of the anime might not have been so good because it was a filler made up by the anime production team but I still love this series. I’d rate it a 95/100 imo.

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SuperMario
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Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
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Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
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@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
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SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
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Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
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Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
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Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
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Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
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Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
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Or no? Someone please tell me!!
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Going to happen?
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Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
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@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
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@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
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Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
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I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
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juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
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who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
Amagi
I mean there are parts I like. I enjoyed the first episode, and the part about the country of liars. But many other things annoy me and the last episode was the worst. I also feel like the edgy bomb loli and slapstick Kino don't fit to the rest of the show somehow. Maybe I forgot everything, but the "old" Kino felt like a better character to me somehow, this one is more faithful to the LNs though
Amagi
@Kaiser: I honestly gave up on Kino and I think it's only partly the fault of the new series. I am just so tired of how stupid most of the episodic-characters are unless their are friends of Kino, how everyone gets bent being irredeemable evil for plot's sake and how everything Kino and her friends do gets justified. Maybe I am just too old or boring for this fairy tail like moral bending.
SuperMario
Still have Night is Short review to write... i will get there. I will get there
Anonymous1612237
It's like having potty mouth characters. If you have one, it can be funny and a good comedic relief. If everyone does it, it can come out as mean spirited or trashy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I haven't watched A Bad Idea Gone Wrog, as for now my top priority is to catch up with 2017 anime for the Yearly summary. But I will get on to it when I have some free time
Anonymous1612237
Amagi - Chibi stuff I've seen it mainly work in anime comedies with low budgets like Those Who Hunt Elves, Ranma, Excel Saga, Arakawa Under the Bridge, Nanbaka, etc. I think if you really have to use it in a more serious anime, I think it might work if it was part of one character's gag.
SuperMario
Children of the Whales, along with Juuni Taisen, keep falling out on me. Kino is pretty a hit-or-miss at the moment. I don't mind the last episode's multiple tales though
Niello
Problem about AMB chibi jokes are that they arwn't funny in the first place nor do they have a punch line.
Niello
@Eoghan, Really surprise you put Children of the Whales so high, I'm falling behind on some shows but it is still near the bottom of my list (the absolute bottom remains Kino).
Kaiser-Eoghan
The latest Kino episode was a real slap in the face/insult, really really thought that one segement would carry on for the whole episode and be a redemptive one/getting the series back on form but then it followed it up with crap comic relief segement.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: For now yes.
Lenlo
Droppin Mahou Kaiser?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I no longer care what Dia's gender is, no longer I will lie to myself and deem them female.
Kaiser-Eoghan
5. would be juuni taisen
Kaiser-Eoghan
My rankings for the season based on what I am following: 1. Houseki no kuni 2. Children of the whales 3. inuyashiki 4. girls last tour dropping mahou and Kino.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't remember Joseph being all that present from what little I read of the manga.
Amagi
Fear so too. I mean it has a bunch of good ideas and good quality and such, but it feels like it won't be much more than the magical being of the week (or two weeks) and some Elias highjinks inbetween
Kaiser-Eoghan
I still say, I've got the feeling mahou will be wasted potential that won't really go anywhere much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Did you watch that indie film you recommended yet? Bad idea gone wrong it was called. I just finished it there, budgetary limitations and outside of Matt Jones the acting isn't great, theres a few limp/dead bits too, nonetheless it has its amusing moments here and there to make for an okay comedy that isn't all that essential but amusing enough in moments if your bored.
Amagi
Yeah I think Mahou has some pacing issues. But I also think it would work way better if it was less episodic or semi-episodic.
SuperMario
I normally don't mind the chibi stuff that much but I agree in Mahoutsukai they break the tone and pacing. Serious at one time, fluffy at another...
Amagi
@Vonter: I honestly never like chibi stuff I think. Didn't care back then but nowadays I consider it annoying. One reason is that jokes only work when they aren't pointed out but just happen, sometimes even so casually that you almost miss them. Turning everyone into a chibi for a joke makes it as fun as repeating, explaining or shouting it again (which many series also do)
KTravlos
I have to give it to Altair. It got me reading the manga. The episode this week did skip over a whole manga story, but to be frank it is not too much of a loss. Pacing issues still exist. One thing I noticed was a degrading in animation. They are probably hoarding for the next two episodes which are the major battle.
Anonymous1611511
Just dropping my 2c here: Isn't it too late for the studio to correct such inherent design issue once eps start rolling out?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Angel: The dub wasn't all that impressive in the first place however.
Angel
When Will fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub come out?
Vonter
The chibi stuff sadly, is like watching someone make the same mistake over and over again, without acknowledging that thing isn't coming across well. At this point it seems like an intentional choice rather than just cutting corners. Kinda like when an anime has a decent dub but has that one character with a really annoying voice.
Lenlo
Its continued this willful ignorance, this virtual refusal, to actually address the issue. Thing about the chibi is, the first scene with Silver worked. Then it just got overused.
KTravlos
Mahoutsukai continues denying itself. We finally had some tough questions asked, but the show just ignored them in the 2nd half (with generous doses of chibi). That said Elias true form is terrifying.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: If you enjoy The Scent of the Green Papaya and Cyclo, you can also check out his unofficial third film about Vietnam: The Vertical Ray of the Sun, which is about the modern day of Hanoi. It's my favorite film of his, although I know that artistically it can't compare to his earlier films
SuperMario
And I can say the mafia aspect of Cyclo is more like Hong Kong than Vietnam. But, whatever. I like this one well enough
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I particularly love the score in Cyclo. No wonder later on Tran Anh Hung asked Joony Greenwood from Raidoohead to score his films. His score has the same uncomfortable feeling with this one
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would have watched an entire story based around that old man in the new Kinos journey episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Though while I never found it boring, it did feel it could have had a better narrative.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Cyclo I felt has some reasonable sketched characters and the aesthetic sells the viewer on the environment the characters are living in, Tony Leung was my favourite in it, I also like how some Asian films are able to mix quietness with moments of violence, makes it much more visceral.
SuperWooper
I'd lean towards weirdest thing you've ever seen. It's certainly up there for me.
Masky
...I can't figure out whether Sengoku Jidai with batman is weirdest thing I have ever seen or makes completely perfectly sense and was inevitable it would happen
K-Off
The map design should've been vastly more different, I'd love to hear why they thought it was worth it to keep the same maps as Gaiden. So. Much. Open. Fields.
K-Off
Finally got to playing Fire Emblem Shadow, and 15 hours in I'm already not a fan of the gameplay. The story is vastly superior to Gaiden, but it looks like it missed the point on how to make a good remake. The maps are just as god awful as in Gaiden and for it, (in hard mode) it feels like a game of numbers rather than strategy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I feel drama need not always go for emotions in the audiences but can be effective in a solely cold observational sense and approach.
SuperMario
haha you don't need to spy you know. Like I said Discord chat has been active lately. I find myself more comfortable chatting in there for some reasons.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I spy on the discord chat sometimes
Kaiser-Eoghan
Worried about this Junji itou adaptation thats coming up, hope it isn't one of those zero animation web-short series.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: he still has Flashmob in which he intended to make. Yeah, he started his career quite late but he has had a very successful career
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Potentially could be his last film, he is quite old.
SuperMario
Agree that Happy End has many quirkier moments compared to his other works. Still a solid work but I won't rank it amongst his best
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Watching Happy End, you can immediately realize many of Haneke's favorite themes: the voyeur/camera in Benny's Video, Cache; the latent racism like you mentioned, the idea that killing someone you love is better than watching them suffering, the underlying violence in a normal middle class life in most of his works
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Like with code unknown, its approach to latent rascism is far better handled than for example a terrible hollywood oscar bait drama would handle it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I felt though had the film been a bit longer, Huppert and Jones could have gotten more scenes, same with Franz Rogowski's character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I did however think that the disjointed nature of the earlier parts were both to the advantage and disadvantage of the film. But it delivers a killer of a last act that I loved.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I finally got around to seeing happy end, I liked the Cache and amour references and how Haneke cheekily managed to insert quirkier moments and even wry ones so seemlessly into the narrative. Fontaine ,Kassovitz and Tringnent had the best scenes, particularly the ones between Fontaine and Tringnent.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Physical, non-verbal communication is a far more valuable way of conveying information I believe and more effective in fiction.
SuperMario
Report on Just Because so far: they took on the three-way romance direction, which I initally ain't fond of. But last episode actually was great with the focus on body gestures and natural dialogues, delivering one of the brst exchange the show has this season. A good watch overall
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