Posted by psgels on 16 October 2006 with categories: Anime Reviews


When I saw the first episode of this series, I immediately dismissed it. Every direction pointed to a standard shounen series. Pubescent male, check. Female love interest, check. Sudden huge unexplained outburst of power coming from main character, check. At that time, I saw absolutely no reason to continue this show.

Boy, was I wrong. Thank god I got curious when I saw Maya‘s entries about the series, and managed to catch up with the series. I’m so glad I did that. Yes, it remains a shounen series. But one heck of an incredibly well developed shounen series. The romance between the main character (Renton) and main female character (Eureka), which I initially gave no chance of success, turned out to be so well developed and fleshed out. This really is a must see for anyone with a bit of patience.

Basically, the series consists out of four part. The first part is the most boring and misleading. It’s mostly meant to introduce the cast of characters, and covers about ten episodes. The second part suddenly starts introducing a huge lot of mentally disturbing scenes. Boy, that was a huge surprise. By the end of this part (episode 28) I really was hooked to this anime. The creators made perfect use of the fact that Renton was just an idiotic boy. He just keeps causing troubles to his surroundings, and Eureka as well, because of his naivety.

Then, starting from episode 29, the third part begins, and all of the disturbing scenes just stop, and the series enters a season-long intermezzo. It’s mostly meant in order to develop the different characters and flesh them out a bit, with the emphasis on Renton and Eureka, though it may be a pain to get through. Then, at episode 40 the series picks up pace again, and at episode 44, the fourth part of the anime begins, attempting to finish the anime. The fourth part turns amazing again. It fully utilizes the basis that the third part set, and delivers six episodes of pure awesomeness. These episodes were so incredibly sad at times. Unfortunately, the creators had set their mind on an epic ending, which threw this anime into the pit of predictability again, unfortunately.

The second and fourth part make this anime incredibly worthwhile, in their own way. The second part focuses on conflicts, while the fourth part focuses on trust and faith. Emotions skyrocket during the many climaxes and confrontations. Unfortunately, the fact remains that the first and third arc are rather essential for this anime, even though they remain boring. At times, Renton also acts like an annoying brat for comic relief, that wasn’t really exciting to see.

The story of this anime, indeed, is one huge adventure. But what else can you expect with a fifty-episode anime? The story focuses around an interesting world, created by the creators of this anime. The plot is very complex and multi-layered, and this anime does a fine job introducing the different elements. Still, there are a few unanswered plotholes left at the end of the episode. Our main character’s sudden outburst of power never really gets a decent explanation.

Overall, this anime has great characters. During the right parts, they really shine like no other. If you’ve got enough time for a 50-episode series, I’m definitely recommending this.

21 Responses

  1. Ryan A says:

    I have to say I enjoyed it very well. Nice science fiction mecha, the animation was good. Some parts of the story were confusing; ie the end. The sub stories really won me, Anemone’s story was an awesome struggle. Thrid OP is my fav :)

  2. omo says:

    I think the first half of the series alone is good enough. The second half was worth it for its explanation of the setting and the maturing of Eureka x Renton relationship, and, well, ending it all.

    But seeing Anemone and Dominic was pretty great :3

    It’s probably far from being the most gripping anime of its kind, but the themes are wonderful.

  3. Solaris says:

    This is the mecha serie i’d recommend to all of those who think Code Geass is well done…

    Awesome characters, good pacing, good themes good execution. Maybe it was just too Eureka to Renton romance for my taste, but it was allright at the end…

  4. Tan-Tan says:

    “Our main character’s sudden outburst of power never really gets a decent explanation.”

    You mean the ending? That’s easy…the power of love XDDDDDDD

    Well, this is definitely one in my top 5 now. I just finished (lol since I’ve been hearing it for YEARS) it and I must say, the ending (or at least the direction) wasn’t what I expected. I’ve always thought

    (SPOILERS):

    oh how are they going to change in the other side? Oh wait, it’s not over yet. How will they stop the attack? No wait, they couldn’t. How will they deal with the life limit theory? Oh wait, it’s not happening. Then in the actual ENDING, I was like, “Oh…hmm…” I was wondering what EXACTLY happened, but I have an idea anyway.

    Oh yea, the Anemone-Dominic story is awesome…because of that super heavy pet XD I laughed when Anemone’s pet put their hands together. It reminded me of some Disney movie xDDDD

    Generally, yet very awesome. I disagree that the Eureka-Renton relationship was hard to go through in the first part though. I was actually looking forward how it would develop – and I was never a fan of romance :D

    One thing about this shounen series is that it didn’t end with Renton killing the bad guy and ending the story. Sure he got superpowered and raped those anti-bodies, but you know what I mean! I was actually surprised that he didn’t even do A SINGLE proper battle that could decide the fate of something, haha. An extraordinary shounen series :D I am always a fan of children going to adulthood stories, hehe

  5. Lubu says:

    So a bit late to the game, but I finally watched euraka seven marathon style while I had the flu. I mention that because it may have influenced my reaction to the series, where I found myself unable to empathize with *any* of the characters. By the time the ships crew stops being vapid and explains exactly what was at stake, I found myself unable to suspend disbelief on many different levels.

    spoiler alert, maybe? I’ll do my best not to reveal anything important, but warning was given.

    The villain of the series was not compelling. The child soldiers he uses for the majority of the series were unbelievable and worthy of ridicule. There were plot holes towards the end that would have killed the series for me if I had already been in love with the characters.

    The gekko crew were unappealing for the first 24 episodes of the series, by which time I’d managed to invest more emotional care in Anemone and Dominic than any of the sassy, wise-cracking, hipster air surfers.

    Perhaps what really bothered me is the fact that I felt like the character of Holland was abused. It’s as though the writers had him use physical violence against Renton solely because if everyone had been slightly more forthcoming and less angsty, it was have been a 24 episode series instead of a 50 episode series.

    Rambling of course. Tired. The latter half of the series is watchable at least, when the cast becomes less robotic, the plot gets revealed somewhat, decisions get made, etc.

    Still, the plot holes towards the end… sigh. G’nite.

  6. SDS says:

    I don’t think the faults in Eureka 7 can be accurately described as having too many ‘plot holes’ because in a sense its premise of Coralians wanting to communicate with humans can be seen as a plot hole in itself.

    The story is developed a little too unevenly, incomprehensibly and illogically – especially when Holland does not shoot Dewey the first time they meet. Past episode 30 I found it increasingly unenjoyable because not only can you not relate to anyone in the series, you can’t sympathize with anyone or even understand why the protagonists and antagonist are doing the things they are doing – its especially frustrating by the last 6-7 episodes when main characters still have no clear goal or stabilizing traits.

    Eureka 7 actually started off utilizing the genre tools superbly and created a sense a new direction can be taken with them to produce something compellingly original. By the end, you can say it borders ‘original’ but hardly compelling material.

  7. Froman says:

    We are all entitled to our opinions. My opinion is that this series is an epic. (Spoilers!) The story is tiered extremely well for a series of its size; Coralians, the Scub Coral, the triangle that is Renton, Eureka and the Nirvash, and how they work together, the limit of life, and many other themes occupy the 50 episode series. Also, the characters, their development, and how they all intertwine is phenomenally done.
    The characters are what i consider to be some of the best of any show I’ve ever watched. Renton is 14, of course he is going to seem childish and emotionally distraught by the small things. It’s a part of growing up. To me that’s what makes the relationship between Renton and Eureka so great is that they are young and they grow in knowledge together to learn about the world and about each other as well. Even though we sit here and say to ourselves “damn it Renton, just tell her already” or think “wow Eureka how do you not understand love” we have all also been through what they have been through, while maybe not to the extent of the world’s fate resting on our shoulders, but still we have all experienced these types of feelings of love, hate, anger, jealousy, and had to understand what they meant, and how we deal with them or express them to others. By the time the show ends, *every* character has grown in their own way, I don’t know how others feel about that, but I find that it jumps out to me that they have all developed into better beings.
    After completing my second marathon viewing of this show, I now have labeled it my favorite anime series ever. I honestly do not feel as though anything can top Eureka 7. It is a fantastic story of emotion and understanding. Even though the first few episodes might be slow and seem to have no point what-so-ever, I beg of anyone reading the review, my opinion, and these other comments posted by others, and anyone on the fence about watching Eureka 7, continue to watch, for it will begin to stick to you that there is much more depth to the story then is shown in the slow beginning. But again this is only the opinion of one person. 10/10 in my book, this is. A viewing experience that, whether or not you love or hate, you will not forget.

  8. Doberman211 says:

    i agree with that completely.

  9. DrEpicFail says:

    After reading your review, I endured the grueling first part and Walaa! It’s well-worth watching.

  10. Nicholas says:

    An amazing series with a impossible matchup made possible.I feel that episode 49-50 were the best this anime helped me through my depression i had.Most of i time iw as laughing crying or just bored.Plus if you this this anime is hard to understand go watch the movie the ending is IMPOSSIBLE to understand.

  11. Nichokiu says:

    I actually found this anime without first looking it up on star crossed anime blog – for once! But was attracted to the bright and nice looking animation, which is why I marathoned it in less than 3 days.

    Unlike most, I loved the story from the start, I just knew that this immature and naive boy would end up achieving epic heights – and was I right!

    I loved this anime, very entertaining, very gripping, and enjoyed every moment of it. The last two episodes got me rather confused with Dewey dying and Eureka suddenly transforming, and I remain somewhat confused, but I get the basic gist of it.

    A very heartwarming epic anime, reminded me very much of my favourite anime of all time Toward the Terra, and I applaud Psgels for giving this fabulous anime a good review indeed!

  12. Lama says:

    LOOOOOOOVE this anime. I re-watched it like 2 times after seeing it the first time and I always liked it. Now I watch it a fourth time and wow. Its a brilliant story.

    I actually liked the predictable moments at the beginning. Because it just makes the unpredictable even more so.

    The only thing i didn’t like is the rushed ending. Ep 50 should have been split into 2 or 3 episodes.

  13. mryams says:

    (Spoilers, maybe)

    Can someone explain to me what exactly happened at the end? Did Eureka and Renton return back to Earth to live or the planet that they were already live on? I’m not exactly sure, but the true Promised Land was Earth and the planet they lived on was the one humans escaped to 10,000 years before.

  14. Tyr says:

    @mryams
    The planet they were on already WAS Earth, albeit a terraformed one.
    Renton and Eureka returned after the ending of the show; Axl comments Renton was the only one of his family who returned after leaving, during the closing segment of the final episode.
    I take this to mean that he and Eureka returned after the events at the end of the series, but are travelling together whilst Axl looks after the kids. The two sillhouettes at the end with the blinking lights on another part of the world were them.

    Personally I enjoyed the series; but I felt the overall ending of the series was a let down. I was glad they persued the romantic element til the end, but I think the WAY they did the end of the series didn’t do a lot of justice (like for example that 13k strong military fleet) to some of the other characters or plot points they’d interwoven with the romance up til that point; and the feel of the end of the series was different to the 3 segments before hand.

  15. Charles says:

    omfg when the Beams arch ended i was so depressed

  16. Sevchenko says:

    The way I see it is that It was a wonderful and intense story. I will admit that sure there were a few unanswered questions, but aside from that this was and enjoyable story well worth watching several times. Addressing those who found confusing it wasn’t as confusing as it seems it requires some inference as to what was happening or to what was being said. The way i saw it the producer was trying to make the veiwer think about what was happening think about what was being said then saying it. In my personal opinion it was a great series. I started of a bit slow paced but remained amusing and exciting as well as original. I regard it as on of the best animes I have ever seen and I loved it for the interesting characters, fun and intense story arcs, and the Nirvash. definitely worth watching several times.

  17. Wanderer says:

    How can you give this show a 91 and Code Geass a 67.5?

    Eureka Seven was riddled with bad pacing (like the soccer episode WTF?) and the animation was also jumpy, especially near the middle part of the series. The romance between Renton and Eureka was painful to watch, along with overly cliche. Now there were good things about E7: Minor characters, like Holland got a lot of background to their stories and the music was truly the best part of this show. But overall, the show collapsed after the Charles and Ray Beams saga (which was the best part of E7, IMO). Renton is just as likeable as Shinn Asuka from Gundam Seed Destiny, AKA, HE’S NOT! Yes he’s a kid, but he really does not change at all during the FIFTY episodes he’s in (except his clothes, which he only changes once and that’s on the last episode!). Also, his reason for fighting? “This city sucks” and for a girl he barely meets (referring back to episode 1). I’m sorry, no i can’t accept that, it’s painfully cliche all around. I loved Dominic and Anemone and wished they had more screen time instead of Eureka’s annoying as f**k children whining about some stupid shit.

    Code Geass is a much better show (though season 2 really tested my limits..) in everything, including BGM. I’m just at a loss for words on how you can give Geass such a low score when it did everything better than E7, both being mecha genre.

    TL;DR: First 29 episodes of Eureka Seven were definitely 91/100 material, the rest? Barely a 60. Code Geass may have suffered in Season 2, but it did the mecha aspect better than E7.

  18. Wanderer says:

    *72.5/100 for Code Geass, not 67.5. My apologies.

  19. Crypt says:

    This show had a good start but turned into uter GARBAGE! The main antagonist was illogical and senseless. Good luck keeping up with this messy story, it jumps around everywhere and throws in random fillers out the blue. I give it a 4/10.

  20. trbo323 says:

    renton didn’t change? are you mad? You clearly were not paying attention. Renton goes from the emotionally confused boy to a man choosing his own path snd sticking too it. doing the tough things rather than giving in and rolling over. Basically you looked at his clothing and said “nope, hasnt changed them so therefor he can not be a different person”.

    Personally im confused as to why people keep saying there are plot holes. Really the only one i see is that there is a limit of life in the first place. Other than that (and it took me a few times though) everything makes semse to me. is it confusing and complex? yes, but it all is explained and the things that are not spoon fed to you i feel are that way because you are expected to be a grown up capable of putting 2+2 together.

    (spoilers)

    in a lot of ways Holland is going through the same struggles that Renton is but has the knowlege of scubs from the start. Honestly the whole physical violance thing makes sence when you consider that A) he is immature and B) is frustrated, confused and probably scared about the prospects of world ending scenarios but more important C) Renton is the new kid on board and things are changing, immature minds fear change so he strikes out.

    to me, people saying there are plot holes just says that they were not paying attention enough. This series does not spoon feed it to you but it is all there which is one of the reasons why its on the top of my list

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AidanAK47
@Mario, so it's still at it. To me it's like someone was given an interesting story and made it his mission to ruin it as much as possible.
SuperMario
@Aidan: it's still the same crap. I have a feeling that Sagrada Reset gives a middle finger to us viewers. The plot with development and characters that we have no way to figure out ourselves. The characters who change motive and even personality after each timeline. The main lead girl who act like a robot. I gave this show too many chance so I won't bother to spend more time watching it.
Anonymous1052767
Eromanga sensei
AidanAK47
@Mario, Oh ho, what was the dealbreaker? Just that it didn't change or did something really stupid happen?
SuperMario
Sagrada Reset (long sigh) (scratching my head) (eyes rolling). Dropped
AidanAK47
Hey you.
Konstantinos
Yeah, at this point, this season looks good.
SuperMario
Quite happy with ID-0 and Zero in particular. Zero charms me to no end that I'm still debating whether I should blog it. The trio Re:Creators, Kado, Atom still doing pretty well and the sequels MHA and Bahamut are enjoyable as expected. We have a wide range of anime offerings this season.
SuperMario
Sagrada Reset & SukaSuka I will give it another episode, at least until this current arcs over. They both have potential but Sagrada Reset tries so hard to sound smart, and SukaSuka still falls into its LN tropes which bugged the show down.
SuperMario
*no real urge
SuperMario
I've finally catch up with all other series I wanna follow this season. Alice & Zorouku will be off my list for now, Zorouko is a great character but everything else falls flat so far. I have real urge to continue Attack on Titan and Berserk so I'll wait until they're finished.
Vonter
I watched some episodes of KonoSuba yesterday, reminds me of Those Who Hunt Elves. And I suppose it might be an easy recommendation because it mainly comes down to; do you find it funny? or fun? If not, skip.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While yes its true of watching those slice of life shows week by week is better, I felt that when reading the manga for Aria it was easier to marathon by reading it rather than watching.
SuperMario
Flying witch have the same atmosphere, but it's a purely slice of life anime. I love Aria too and I agree that watching it 1 episode a time is the best way to enjoy it. Can't think of other serious anime that have those calming elements for now
Anonymous1042537
Yeah, I noticed they all have pretty different structures from one another (ACCA's political, Mushishi's naturalistic, Monster is a thriller, Rakugo's about a specific art form, 3-gatsu is ostensibly about Shogi, etc.) but I found that I found some similar calming elements in them (to different degrees of course).
Anonymous1042537
Thanks, I'll definitely check Aria out!
AidanAK47
One of the hardest shows to marathon besides Bakemonogatari. Though Bakomono gave me a headache after a few episodes whereas Aria just had me so mellow that I could drift into sleep at any second.
AidanAK47
Don't know if you could call it a sub genre as the examples you listed are all really different from each other.
Though in the vein of calming shows I think you can add the Aria series to the list. That show is so relaxing that you find yourself nodding off to it. Not out of boredom but it just has that effect on you.
Anonymous1042537
Do you guys know if there's a specific subgenre like this, or am I making it up? And are there other anime with that kind of feel. Not exactly slice of life, but in the general vicinity of it.
Anonymous1042537
The Great Passage was another great example. It delved into the seemingly boring subject matter of dictionary-making, but it was a surprisingly charming show. 3-Gatsu no Lion also looks promising, I enjoyed a lot of the first season (but wasn't a fan of the forced comedy sometimes).
Anonymous1042537
Like the episode where Tenma first meets Grimmer on the train to Prague and they have a picnic on the mountain was so dang good. I really need to rewatch that.
Anonymous1042537
There are some elements of that style in other shows too, but to a lesser extent. Like some parts of Rakguo (mainly season 1) was very soothing. Naoki Urasawa's Monster had some fantastic, almost melancholic episodes like this.
Anonymous1042537
It seems that most anime w/ that kind of style usually also have another genre mixed in. Mushishi was also very naturalistic, ACCA had a political underpinning.
Anonymous1042537
It's sort of in the vein of a "Mushishi" style show. I suspect it's an emerging subgenre of slice of life that's meant to be very calming, relaxing, atmospheric which I really am digging.
Anonymous1042537
I really hope there are more shows like it; not that it was perfect, but it was certainly unique and hit a lot more than it missed. I really like those cool, quiet shows you can enjoy with a nice cup of tea before you go to sleep.
Anonymous1042537
Ironically though, I would say that the first half of ACCA (up until the big flashback) is better enjoyed week by week, or at least that's what I found.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It felt good marathoning a show again rather than waiting week by week and next weekend I'll probably marathon house of five leaves.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Forgot to mention...there were certainly a share of moments in Acca that feel fanservish to the female audience =P
SuperMario
@Aidan: haven't noticed that. Will fix it soon.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Only problem I can see is that the posts have no spaces in between paragraphs.
SuperMario
... to be near my laptop for an entire week. First time that I had to blog entirely through my phone. Seemed to work out fine but I had to borrow screenshots from other source (I thank you that other source) ^^
SuperMario
*unless* rather than *as long as*. This has been a crazy week for me as I didn't have a chance
SuperMario
@anon1039488: I find the idea of limiting excess to exclusively stream an aime is a dumb idea; because as long as people have a chance to expose to the anime they won't really care to check it out. So I detest owning the legal streaming account, but I always pay back by buying DVDs/Blurays that I liked
SuperMario
I watched House of Five Leaves by the same mangaka and I really enjoyed it. Nataume Ono is a pretty excelent storyteller (a bit mixed on her art-style thou)
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I agree that the first dew episodes of ACCA were not that engaging but the endingg neatly tied up all loose ends. I still feel Grossular's act is kind of messy (why was he under such control from Lilium? He's not that kind to be in such passive role to be honest) but other than those I don't have any real complaints.
Anonymous1039488
Competition is good, but it makes it cost so much to legally watch everything. That's why a lot of people pirate I feel.
Anonymous1039488
You have Crunchryoll and Funi, fine. Then there's Daisuki which is kinda random. Then Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu all have some random anime, though it seems that mainly Amazon has current series
Anonymous1039488
I don't have Amazon Strike, which is like their new venture into anime I guess. There's too many streaming services to keep up with tbh
Kaiser-Eoghan
To be honest I'm pretty crap when it comes to supporting things, I don't pay for almost all the things I watch/read/play, I don't have a crunchy or amazon account, I still pirate legal streams.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Is it a case that your country is blocked? Maybe go for a vpn? If you absolutely have to you could pirate the show...
Anonymous1039488
I wanna watch Re:Creators but don't have Amazon... :( alas
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel like I need to wait and see approach with sekaisuru Kado...this prologue phase is...long...
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wish it had been 24 episodes long though to better organize itself.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Favourite characters were Jean, Groslur and Nino.
Can’t say I cared for the goofy interactions between Jean’s workfriends though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yet for whatever I could say about the pacing, when the twists happen they creep up on you and the show mostly lands every one of them, even if I’m not exactly pleased that sometimes the series does the “I pulled it out of the hat/ass” approach.
I’m relatively indifferent on the art/animation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I did feel it picks up, improves by the mid-mark and to an extent the wait is worth it and things do come together even if I wasn’t always totally confidant with how it was getting there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Having the protagonist go from district to district to flesh out the settings a decent enough idea and the main characters a fairly chill, cool guy.
Though the dialogue does create suspicion, intrigue, it does also plod/pad in equal measure at times.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Finally decided to sit down and watch Acca.
This show had its lovers/haters I’m sure, having watched it my feelings are mixed.
It is a slight breath of fresh air I’ll give it that and makes me want to maybe re-assess of adaptations of the author’s work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The only assayas film I've encountered so far that I disliked was Irma Vep, even though the lead actress was great, the surrounding performances, especially by Jean-Pierre-Lenaud were awful. Sils Maria I was initially evasive of because I'd heard that the relationship between Binoche and Stewarts characters was under-unexplored.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Weersathakul's films are something else entirely...Otherworldly yet still cinematic. I feel a bit underwhelmed after watching the Unknown girl. The identity of the culprit, for example, feel forced for me that take me out our their naturalistic style. I'mmin between Clouds of sils maria too, know it's a good movie but it feels pretentous at times, like the movie Youth
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I also got round to watching Unknown girl by Dardenne, it carries enough moments of their brilliance but I felt they didn’t have as much mastery over their usual pacing style this time round, for the first time it felt like a thriller that played out like a drama, rather than a drama that has a pseudo thriller feel to it.
Going to watch Clouds of sils Maria next.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The entire second half, which I’d have watched an entire film about is very atmospheric and dreamy/esoteric nearing just exactly the kind of thing I like.
The way he uses/shoots Thailands geography along with his cinematography is impressive, particularly in that second half.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: He shoots something simple like a chopping scene in a strangely engaging way, the scene with the old woman going into the cave is also very impressively shot and that one driving scenes with that pop song in the background has an airy feel to it.
In some ways I agree that there’s a bit of sensuality to it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It’s the kind of film that feeling tired/relaxed when watching it isn’t a condemnation of it(although a share of moments in the first half could be patience testing), it’s the sort of film where you aren’t really aware of anything outside of watching the film when you watch it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I finally looked into a Weersathakul film, Tropical Malady. I don’t even know how to give a star rating for this film.
SuperMario
I'm still on the fence with Alice & Zouroku. Like the title suggests, the warm chemistry between those two are its strongest point, but those moments are far and few in between as the story progresses and I don't care one bit about the Red Queen storyline. I might drop this one if the story doesn't improve
SuperMario
@Lenlo: 3 episodes anf Berserk still hasn't grabbed me as much. Yep facial expressions are really off-putting
Lenlo
Man... the facial expression in Berserk for the 3D models are, ever so slowly, killing me.
AidanAK47
Alright. Tommarrow I will get out all those posts I am late on seeing as the impressions are all finished.
AidanAK47
SukaSuka still has me mixed. On one hand there really are some great ideas and some well executed moments. But some of the dialogue is a bit typical of a light novel and the fanservice is really shameless. The massage at the end of the episode was something the show could really do without.
Konstantinos Travlos
I am in love with RE:Creators. I have no idea if they will keep it as good, but these two first episodes did all the right things.
AidanAK47
Alright, Easter made me lazy so it's time to play catch up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Puran: Or even Georgiou Nikolaidis while I'm at it, morning patrol is a great mood piece. Not familiar with the other guy.
Puran
@Kaiser: No Grammatikos recommendation? :)
SuperMario
I still enjoy Zero pretty much. I like the contrast between the beastfallen and Zero. The hilarious lines sound more like accidental to me, not the best product but I enjoy the ride so far
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree with everything you said. Apparently Haneke put Flashmob on hold because the main actress was conflicting in her schedule, so he decided to do Happy End instead
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Does the old man represent gritty anime of old? I don't know honestly I'm just throwing it out there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: In case you hadn't heard, Haneke dropped the Flashmob movie and is now doing one about the refugee crisis.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: To whoever will be playing Godard in that biopic, I'd wonder if they could capture how incredibly douchey he sounds irl lol
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: There is such a big divide between 50s/60s Bresson and 70s/80s Bresson.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Lathimos and Avaranas remind me in an odd way of Tarr in that they're the only Greek filmakers people seem to talk about , Check out Koundorous and Theodorous Angelopolous' works if you can.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Meh, I don't like that sort of overly on the nose social commentary some American films and tv shows do in recent years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Godards extremely hit or miss with me. Hazanavicius did the artist I think, but I'd sooner recommend Biancnieves as a stronger example of a modern take on silent cinema or maybe a Guy Maddin film.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Lotznitza directed a gentle creature not Zvyagintsev, though the latter is a fantastic director, Leviathan's ending hit me very very hard, its gut punching and I appreciated that the return never went into too much detail regarding the father.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: off topic, I didn't realize Get Out having such buzz reception. It's coming here next week so I will get to watch it
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Michel Hazanavicius makes a biopic about Jean-Luc Godard and Anne Wiazemsky (the actress in Au Hasard Balthazard), which I think will be interesting. I considered The Lobster one of the best film out of that year so I anticipate his next movie a hell lot. Yep, I watched few movies from Andrey Zvyagintsev and he certainly is in my radar. Bleak, social commentary, technical impressive
AidanAK47
Oh, it's confirmed that was what was actually said in Japanese. Well...that's rather cringe worthy.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Can't say I am too fond of it myself. Though that arrow to the knee reference definitely sounds like something the translator added in.
Anonymous1026829
Holy shit Zero is hilarious. "I used to be a mercenary like you once. But then I took an arrow to the knee." "My magic is super weak so I need a powerful offering. Can you loan me your head please?" The comedy is so pointed and understated.
Vonter
I do like how contrasting Zelda is to Nier in the sense that. Zelda cares more about how the game plays and making the player have fun constantly but doesn't care about telling something. Nier Automata doesn't care what it throws to the player but cares a lot about it tells the things that happen to player.
Vonter
I think this is a hard game to score. Mainly because IMO the combat has wear out a bit do to the repetition and the sidequests have been a mixed bag with some being relevant to the plot or themes and some being just fodder to level up. On the other hand the game has a lot of implications, subtext and symbolism that so far has been enriching to reflect upon.
AidanAK47
@Vonter, Actually wrote up 4/5s of a review on Nier Automata but with the new season I haven't had time to finish writing the review. Though my thoughts on it are similar to yours.
Vonter
Nier Automata has a 10+ hour prologue. So far the game feels like it's more interested in delivering strong emotions than a compelling narrative, not that script is poor but seems disjointed in a way, circling around the themes of existentialism, purpose and truth without overexpositing about these things. It also some moments remind me of Fragile Dreams. Like the despair.
AidanAK47
The old man is the one I can't pin down. Been thinking he might represent the kind of anime that's critically lauded but sadly unpopular. Makes sense as he's one of the few on the opening that doesn't stand near ads for his anime. Or else he's a live action drama representative.
AidanAK47
Been wondering about the Re:Creators characters. We got the obvious representatives from Magical girl, Mecha, Light novel and video game. The knight girl looks like clear homage to Saber from Fate so a Visual novel representive? The psycho girl looks to be a chunni anime representative. And the guy who appeared at the end of ep 2 is clearly Shounen.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The Ramsay one sticks out as the most interesting to me as does the lathimos one. I'm curious about that Russian one about the woman looking for her imprisoned husband as I'd like to watch more contempory Russian films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: If you can get passed the accents Ramsay did a strong piece of social realism in the 90s called Ratcatcher.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I think the only Baumbach film I've seen is Frances Ha and I liked the new wavey feel it had. With The lobster and re-watching dogtooth I was able to get into Lathimos' pitch black humour alot more. I've never actually seen a hong-sang so film.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, I still really enjoy it but I do get what you mean. Looking at the series overall so far it does feel like there was lost potential.
Amagi
I honestly still don't know what to think of LWA. I wasn't a fan of the formularic first half but the second half doesn't really catch me either. I loved the first OVA though.
AidanAK47
Well I will be damned. That G Koh commenter managed to predict the inclusion of Yggdrasil in Little Witch Academia. Nicely done.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: sadly i won't make it this year. I wanna try the Toronto International Film Fest next time whenever I have a chance
SuperMario
@Kaiser:you heard about this year's Cannes selection?Overall it's solid, not many that scream "masterpiece" for me.Overall I'm exciting for Hong Sang Soo's new movies (he has 2 movies screening at Cannes and 1 already aired at Berlin.What the hell),and The Killing of the Scared Deer(Yorgos Lnthimos), You were never really here (Lynne Ramsay),Okja(Bong Joon Ho) and Meyerowitz Stories(Noah Baubach)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm...just found out That Blame! 2017 is being done by a the Ajin director, not sure how I felt about that.
AidanAK47
Think this is the best time to end the series too as the difficultly was getting to be a bit too cheap.
AidanAK47
Lore wise it's pretty disappointing. Ending the game with an enemy that doesn't really have that much relevance. But Gameplay wise it was excellent. The final area was just beautiful.
Lenlo
Ringed City was a great piece of DLC and a good way to end the series imo.
AidanAK47
Dark souls sure can give you workout. Finally got around to finishing the ringed city DLC. Funny thing is that people were raving about how hard Midir was when I didn't have that much trouble with him. Gaol gave me some trouble but I managed it. Hardest was the demon prince and god I hate multi stage boss fights. Such a goddamn pain.
SuperMario
Atom still waiting for suitable subs. I swear to God, for a completist like myself the wait is unbearable, especially it should've been available already
HelghastKillzone
Yes it is.
Anonymous1020539
I mean...
Anonymous1020539
Re:producers is really great
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I can see myself chancing more of it, I kind of caught into its rhythm a bit.
AidanAK47
Novels are actually really short. About 90 pages long per volume. They really could cover this in a single cour.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, SukaSuka? From what I could tell it covered the first two chapters of the light novel. Each novel has 5 chapters. Though the first and last chapter are more of a prologue and epilogue respectively.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually if shuumatsu's first episode is going faster than the novel, roughly how much so? Its still obviously a slow burn in animated format but how much was covered in episode 1?
AidanAK47
Could have done without the huge infodump but otherwise still loving Re:Creators. Seeing a magical girl shocked over her own level of destructive power was great.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, I liked the use of music early on in shuumatsu and theres a good mood set up early on along with a good opening scene but the later parts of the episode except maybe for the after credits bit get a shrug from me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Kado has made its hook, now it needs not to keep holding its cards and get going.
SuperMario
hmmm, don't know what to think about Kado ep2. Still good but I expected more
SuperMario
But really my mentality is that this site comes first. Getting more traffic and improve the site are my top priorities, then "what I wanna do for myself" comes later
SuperMario
@Travlos: guess you won't have to read me this season :). Haven't checked out the last episode of Kado yet but based from the first 2 episodes I think you'd enjoy that show.
Don’t worry. It’s something Aidan and me both agree on. We pretty much write for ourselves, otherwise we couldn’t have stayed this long. I get a chance to go off track once in a while to write something I wanna write.
Konstantinos Travlos
@SuperMario. I am definitely watching Shingeki no Koyjin 2, Shingeki no Bahamut 2, Re:Creators, Little Witch Academia, and probably Kado and Zero Kara. I may also do Zipang this season.
On the reaction reaction. What you say is ok. But remember, a hobby is something you do for yourself. There is a limit to how much you should care about the views of others. :)
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Or if I can use a quote from Chang from Black lagoon : "A fragranced shit will forever still retain the smell of shit"
Lenlo
As most likely the biggest Berserk fan in this chatbox, its better but that doesnt make it good. Spraying fabreeze on crap doesnt make it any more appealing. Yet I will watch it anyways.
Anonymous1018231
You don't even know
Anonymous1018231
Lies Aidan it is soooo much better
Anonymous1017807
Tbh I'm enjoying Alice to Zouroku so much simply because I identify with the old guy's no-nonsense attitude. It's fun to see the annoying loli get put in her place. X.D
AidanAK47
Anyway Bam is supposed to be covering it. Seeing as he covered the first season.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I watched the first episode of the second season. Better? Yes, but only slightly.. It has all the same problems as the first season.
Anonymous1017501
and nobody's covering it lol
Anonymous1017501
Like dramatically
Anonymous1017501
It really is much better
Anonymous1017501
You know guys its not too late to start watching Berserk Season 2...
AidanAK47
I just get annoyed when interaction is like "HUMAN, YOUR EMOTION RESPONSE IS DIFFERENT. I THEORIZE THIS IS THE REASON YOUR EMOTIONAL RESPONSE IS DIFFERENT."
Their is a definite layer of pretentiousness in how it's written, seeing how nobody gets annoyed when every character tries to psychological profile them.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I have heard word that these two episodes were a prologue story and the real story is going to kick into gear next episode. But if the characters keep talking like this then it's not going to matter what happens. It will just be terrible.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Jojo part 5 died for this. That makes it all the sadder. Plus it's two cour so this show is gonna be on for half a year.
SuperMario
Being said all that I will follow it for 1 more episode
SuperMario
And then that girl who passed away because of the reset. I feel my emotions drying up at that point. Tasteless. Heartless
SuperMario
Wanna say the same thing regarding Sagrada Reset as well. I have the feeling the show tries to sound smart that ultimately if I hear someone talks like this in real life, I would go punch his face. Manipulating the social worker by slitting your own wrist? WHAT? Asking a girl about her rules, then whenever she answers you give your own warped opinions on it to sound like you know it all? WHAT
Anonymous1016169
@Aidan: Lol, Sagrada reminds me of how I used to write. Pretentious, overly complex dialogue that nobody would use in real life unless they were trying too hard. It grits on my ears so much that I don't think I can keep watching it, especially because this is probably how it's going to be for the whole series.
Anonymous1016169
@Amagi: I feel your pain. I used to enjoy those types of shows, but I've found more and more since getting out of high school that they just make me want to take a nap. It doesn't help that they're everywhere. X.D
AidanAK47
God Sagrada Reset is frustrating. So many good ideas, all absolutely ruined by the dialogue and characters. If you just changed the dialogue a bit and made the characters emote more then this would be so very interesting. But they manage to drain the life out of the story.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, in most cases you can easily write off the ones not worth your time based on the summery. Occasional those kinds of show can turn out to be worth watching but it just doesn't happen often enough.
Amagi
Nothing against those types of anime in general, but it's just not aimed at me I guess. - I also should specify: school (semi)harem, not school alone. I enjoy Tsuki ga Kirei.
Amagi
I really love this season but I should stop testing the school- and shoujo stuff. It's almost never worth the time and it always bores me so much that I have to stop watching anime for a few hours.
Anonymous1016169
@Travlos: Why does a hobbyist artist care when someone critiques their art or a fanfic writer care about reader feedback? When you do something you enjoy, it's normal to want to improve and other people's opinions are important for that.
SuperMario
@Travlos: because 1) We still need to listen to what readers say to improve and 2) we're debating more about rating system, which I also feel the need of upgrading. btw, any shows that catch your interests so far this season?
Konstantinos Travlos
Why do you guys care about what someone thinks about your reviews? You are doing a good enough thing as is, and t is a hobby. Do your thing and do not lose time on this.
Anonymous1015915
I think I'm just gonna follow sukasuka and re:creators this season. Seem to of shown the most potential universally.
Anonymous1015442
Soy and almond milk are also available as alternatives for the lactose intolerant.
Anonymous1015442
From the manga it seems like it would translate well into an anime with the right production values so I think I'm going to try it. I was mostly concerned that they'd push the melodrama even more through the roof, haha. I did see some of the reviews on it here and they made me hopeful that it was fairly well-executed.And of course the milk can be chocolate. Just not vanilla, vanilla milk is yuck i
Lenlo
Its certainly making me happy I waited until the end of the season to binge it.
SuperMario
I'd have the milk as well... Need more milk to my life.
SuperMario
Hope Scum's Wish entertains you, Lenlo. ^^
Lenlo
I will say the sound design has been great for Scums Wish though I have not read the manga to see how it matches up
Lenlo
I dont think "enjoyed" is the right word for this kind of show, but I do know im going to finish it.

Also, can the milk be chocolate?
Anonymous1015350
@Lenlo: That's true, but I also feel like everyone here needs some milk. And I've been reading the Scum's Wish manga and can't decide if it'll be worth it to watch the anime.
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