Posted by psgels on 21 October 2006 with categories: Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto

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Ooh, that was another great episode. But first: a few names, taken from the official website. I knew that learning Hiragana would come in handy some day.

Akizuki Youjirou: he’s the main character of this story. Has a strong sense of justice, and seems to have some kind of mission to stop some kind of mission, planned by the bad guys which involves supernatural beings.

Yuyama Kakunojou: she’s the main female character. She’s a member of the theatre group. When she was young, the guy from the previous episode killed her father, a wealthy merchant and her mother. She then fled along with either her brother or best friend and the old guy. She appears in this anime in two forms: a normal form, and a performing form, in which she wears a wig. I can imagine that more people would have trouble recognizing her.

Ibaragi Soutetsu, otherwise known as “Sensei”. He’s probably the one who founded the theatre group, and he handles the management, writes the scripts, and seems to be a very talented swordsman as well.

Shiranui Kozou (I could have sworn I heard this name before… must be my imagination): he’s probably one of the main actors in the theatre group. It seems that he takes the lead in their missions as well, due to his large amount of charisma.

Ebisu no Zukin: He either was Yuyama’s brother or best friend when they were young. He used to be very protective of her, what ended in him getting buried under a pile of burning woodblocks. His face was ruined, that’s why he always conceals his face. Because of that, his personality turned from protective to rather scary and to-the-point. His parts mainly are the one of the side-characters or villains.

Kakashi no Keishin: he forms the muscles behind the theatre group. He moves the heavy pieces of theatre equipment across and under the stage, and we saw him even work as a temporary personal elevator for Akazuki in the first episode.

Zagashira: he’s the old man who used to be very close to both Emusu and Yuyama. He took care of them when Yuyama’s parents died, and finally he came in contact with Ibaraza, and the three joined his theatre group, looking for revenge.

Benimaru: he’s the young boy who’s with the theatre group. He, along with who is most probably his sister, takes care of the small jobs who have to be done, as getting visitors into the theatre, handing out pamphlets, playing as extras and handling the small pieces of decor.

Kobako: most probably Benimara’s older sister. Quite cheerful, as well as her younger brother.

Nakaiya Juubei: probably the main bad guy for now. He has some kind of affinity with spirits, and some kind of history with Akizuki.

Hario Genba: he’s the guy with the scarred face who was killed in the previous episode. At one time, he lead some kind of army and killed Yuyama’s parents. When Emusu tried to struggle against him, he made a careless mistake and his face ended up being halfly burned. It seems that he either worked for Nakaiya, who became sick of him and sought a way to kill him, or he was working for someone who got in the way of Nakaiya, thus forcing the latter to kill him.

Kawai Tsuginosuke: I had to think for a while before I found out who this guy is. He was the samurai who was sitting right next to Nakaiya Juubei, wasn’t he?

Kotoha: a newly introduced character this episode. Her role will probably come later in the anime, and she seems to be connected to the person below. Looking at her clothing and way of talking would suggest that she works at some kind of brothel, though I could be wrong in this. The end of the episode also shows that she knows the theatre group.

Katsu Awa-no-kami Kaishuu (Katsu Kaishuu): another newly introduced character, he’s got his own troubles, as he needs a bodyguard around him. Because of this, he’ll probably get involved with Akizuki and the others.

Saigou Kichinosuke Takamori (Saigo Takamori): the sniper who was partially responsible for killing off Hariwa Genba. He’s hired by Nakaiya, and during this episode, we see him attempting to kill Yuyama. This means that Nakaiya has some kind of grudge against the theatre group, which hints at some kind of history between the two parties as well.

Sadly, even more characters were introduced this episode, but the creators didn’t find them important enough to give them a place on the website. Thankfully, their names did appear on the screen as they were introduced. At least. For some of them. -_-

Koma no Shouten-sama: a very old person, probably a master in martial arts. That, or he is very knowledgeable. The fact that Akizuki refers to him with “sama” and not “sensei” makes me suspect the latter. I suspect that Akizuki served under him at some point.

The name of Shouten-sama’s assistant/bodyguard shall forever remain a mystery, though. If I had to guess, it’d be Shinza, though that was just a random word Shouten-sama used when he looked at him. Anyway, Shinza seems to be looking over Shouten-sama. It’s clear that he’s an old man, and quite respected as well. This indeed suggests that he hired some kind of help or bodyguard.

Katsu gets a visitor during this episode. His name also is displayed, but in kanji and katakana combined. He seems to be a foreigner, named H. S. Parkes. He comes to deliver Katsu a bodyguard, as apparently, he’s in danger. Whether this is because of Nakaiya or another person, I don’t really know.

The name of this bodyguard is never known, even though his role in this anime will probably be rather large, as he’s quite skilled. His character also seems interesting, with the one eye missing at all.

Then, during one explanation, another person gets shown: Saigoukichi no Suketakamori. He either sent the bodyguard to Katsu, or he forms some kind of threat. (Yes, I’m watching this anime without understanding any word of the dialogue. Nice, isn’t it? ^^;)

A thing I liked in this episode was the way the bodyguard was introduced. Firstly, H. S. Packs appeared on the screen, and only when the bodyguard appeared, the background music took a turn towards a very serious, suspenseful tune. It’s also a nice touch to see the enemy sniper actually practicing his aim at the sea. This would suggest that one of his future missions involves sniping people from a boat. At least, if he somehow manages to escape from the cliff-hanger. Things looked pretty hopeless when he was surrounded by both Akizuki and the theatre group.

Anyhow, it’s great to see that finally people other than myself are starting to blog about this series. I really began to find things strange when I appeared to be the only one to talk about such a high-quality series for more than a week. Ah well, once the first subs start appearing, I’ll believe that this series will be gaining popularity fast. But still, this series doesn’t deserve to be carried in such low-quality raws. It’s very ironic: the show with the best production values of the season gets to be packaged in the lowest quality video files. (^^;)

15 Responses

  1. aurabolt says:

    >Emusu(?) no Zusan

    Someone corrected this for me on my blog. He’s actually Kakunoju’s servant, not her brother. And the name’s probably Ebisu.

  2. asdfsdfhh says:

    Ibaragi
    Shiranui
    Ebisu no Zukin
    Benimaru
    Juubei
    Hario
    Tsuginosuke
    Kotoha
    Koma
    i think that stuff in front of h.s. parks(?) name means he’s a british minister living in japan, i guess a missionary

  3. w says:

    The names are split up as Katsu Awa-no-kami Kaishuu, and the Awa-no-kami is just a title so you can call him Katsu Kaishuu. And the other one is Saigou Kichinosuke Takamori, aka Saigo Takamori. The british guy is H.S. Parkes Go google all the bolded names up. They’re all real existing characters; you can find entries on them in Wikipedia.

    The place Akizuki went to in this episode was his home town, Koma. The kanji of that name refers to an old Korean kingdom as well, so it’s possible they might have Korean roots. Not like it matters.
    So the Shouten-sama and Other Dude were probably his old masters of the tradition.

    Also, Soutetsu doesn’t necessarily ahve to be the founder of the troupe; he only does the scriptwriting and isn’t the logistical head in the way Zagashira is, or the leader like Kakunojou. But, he is of course the mastermind because using specific plays, he is scripting out certain things to happen.

  4. psgels psgels says:

    Ah, thanks a lot for the corrections. I think I corrected all of them now.

    And true, Soutetsu doesn’t neccesarily have to be the founder of the troupe. The way he talked and acted made me suspect he did.

  5. misterk says:

    I’m so glad you continue to blog this excellent anime, as it doesn’t get the recognition it deserves. I made some comments based on what I understood from the episodes (but my Japanese is poor). Hope they are helpful, and sorry for the length of this post.

    Comments on Setting:

    Bakumatsu period. A period of restless transition for Japan, after foreign gunships heralded the beginning of the end of centuries-old isolationist policy. The backdrop of the anime appears to be struggles between the Tokugawa Shogunate and a progressive faction that probably later brings about the Meiji Restoration. I think in the prologue the narrator is saying something like “the last era in which battles were fought with swords : Bakumatsu.”

    Comments on Characters:

    ——======= The Bad Guys =======——

    * Nakaiya Juubee *
    main villain thus far. was thought to have died 10 years ago but reappeared in ep1 trying to auction off suspicious goods (an inadequately sealed demon). what’s the story behind his miraculous resurrection? Appears to be behind most of the nefarious doings thus far in the series, but I still can’t tell who he’s working for.
    * TB Glover *
    White guy w/mustache, plots with Nakaiya Juubee aboard British ship.

    ——======= The Other Guys =======——

    * Prince Arisugawanomiya Taruhito *
    * Saigou Kichinosuke Takamori *
    the Prince plots with Saigou Takamori in ep1. The two appear only briefly in this episode. Saigou appears very briefly in ep3 in a spell of narratorial exposition (during Katsu Kaishuu’s meeting with the British diplomat).
    The family of Arisugawa-no-miya was a cadet branch of the Imperial Family. Taruhito was head of the Arisugawa-no-miya line from 1886 – 1895.
    * Sakamoto Ryouma *
    His assassination was shown at the end of ep1. Apparently in large part responsible for Japan’s beginnings of a modern navy, among other great accomplishments. An important man who probably had many conflicts with the Shogunate. In RL, they never knew exactly who killed him. He died in 1867.
    Akizuki was his bodyguard but failed to protect him and is devastated about it.
    They seem to have had a personal relationship. In Akizuki’s first appearance in ep1 he thinks sadly of something Sakamoto Ryouma said, and calls him “Ryouma-san”. It seems like Ryouma has already died by this point in the story and the assassination scene at the end is just a flashback.
    * Akizuki Youjiro *
    (our hero)
    First the bad guys investigate him and call him a hero (I think they said he performed a national service), then the theater troupe sensei says he’s a criminal. This makes sense if he was the bodyguard who failed to protect Sakamoto Ryouma — the Shogunate would want Sakamoto dead, and the progressives would want to protect him because of his work for the modernization of Japan.
    Akizuki seems to be eating his heart out over his failure. Never smiles and occasionally has painful memories of things Ryouma said to him.
    * Katsu Awanokami Kaishuu *
    Likes music and sake, seen briefly in ep1, and again in ep3. Not sure yet what his role is in the anime.
    * HS Parks *
    Scary looking guy with terrible accent. The kanji says he is a British diplomat (does that mean the bad guy’s British friend is non-official?). Parks provides Katsu Kaishuu with a young, sharp-looking bodyguard (a sort of Western counterpart to Akizuki).

    * “Sensei” from the theater troupe *
    It seems that “sensei” from the theater troupe (or someone who looks very much like him) is one of the progressives working to modernize Japan. At the beginning of ep1, dressed in Western clothes, he defeats two Shogunate soldiers to get the “secret message” from the Shogun (Yoshinobu) that they’re carrying. One soldier recognizes him and calls him “Ryuuho”. The narrator says something like, “… if the message is not passed on, Edo will become a battleground … ”
    At the end of the machine-gun slaughter scene in ep2, “sensei” tells the police not to stop Akizuki and says something about “for a new Japan.” If “sensei” and “Ryuuho” are indeed the same person, he plays a very deep game, messing around with politics with the theater troupe as his cover identity.

  6. Luna Buzz says:

    Thanks your doing a great job!

  7. LadyKnight says:

    great job on the names!!! *thumbs up*

    well finally you’re not the only one blogging this series! :D and yea have to agree that such an awesome anime shouldn’t be in such low quality RAW… not too bad, still watchable though…

    and yay! they’ve changed the ending credits! this time not just words but pictures too! ^^ the cliff hanger was awesome… makes you want to grab the next ep and see what happens to that sniper…

    based on ep2 and ep3, there might be some sparks (hopefully) between Yajiro and Kakunojo… ^^ i mean, during the OP credit we saw her in tears and him with this shocked expression… let’s have a bit of romance shall we? =D

  8. asdfdfh says:

    woops, i was thinking of the wrong kind of minister

  9. impz says:

    RAWR, ps, u can read raws!!!!

    I wish i can so that i can watch this show and follow it. Now, the motivation to learn japanese is just greater now…Sigh, someone sub this….chinese, english, whatever =3

  10. bobloblaw says:

    anikimeiski has very kindly provided a script for the first ep on his blog: http://anikimeiski.blogspot.com/

  11. LadyKnight says:

    hey hey hey!!! go grab the first ep subbed by Pino-no-Usagi & Shinsen Subs!!! i’m downloading now to see how well they did the job… PnU is a new group which also joined with Ureshii (who’s doing Ghost Hunt) on Pumpkin Scissors… so what are you waiting for? go grab the torrent!!! =D

  12. psgels psgels says:

    Yes, I’ve seen it. And I’m beginning to love this series more and more. A few things also were cleared up:

    – Yuyama is the leader of the troupe. It therefore isn’t strange that the troupe is called the Kakunojou Yuyama Troupe.
    – Zagashira is the manager of the troupe
    – Ibaragi is the scriptwriter and mastermind behind the troupe. He is the one who suggested the troupe to go to Yokohama, and he definitely has a mysterious past.

    Still, it makes me wonder who founded the troupe in the first place. Did Emisu, Yuyama and Zagashira found the troupe themselves, and the others joined in, or did the three of them join an existing troupe, and became the leader and manager over time?

    Also, Hario Genba didn’t get his scars because his face was pushed into the fire after he killed Yuyama’s parents, like I first thought. The scars appeared during his first fight with Akizuki, in which a piece of burning wood dropped on top of him.

    Kawai Tsuginosuke appears to be some kind of important policeman or government official. In the end, it turned out that Hario Genba just used him. One thing I missed is that during the second episode, they were actually trying to move the gattling guns he just bought.

  13. LadyKnight says:

    well the video quality was about the same as the RAW and Shinsen DID mention they’ll try to grab a DVD quality one… =D oh? which part was it on the fire and the scar? i seemed to have missed it…

    no wonder i kept hearing Kakunojou Yuyama so many times… and that the manager called her (through my poor knowledge of Japanese) something like leader… thanks for the notes…

    gosh i love the music!!! and Yojiro’s eyes when it turned blue… i especially love the BGM during the scene his eyes turned blue when sensing the youkai (or whatever that thing is)…

    really different style of anime plot… =D

  14. psgels psgels says:

    Well, the scene is never shown directly, but we do see Hario Genba without scars during the first episode and with scars during the second episode. That has to say something, doesn’t it? ;)

  15. LadyKnight says:

    yea i went back and watched it… yup… you’re right…

    hm… for now i think i’ll just get whoever group sub it fast, since KissSub is also working on it but h264 version (don’t really fancy that version)… KissSub has better translation and extra notes too but Shinsen DID admit that they’re not likely to put extra notes till they get better RAW qualities…

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I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
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@Mario, Already saw that video before.
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Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
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Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
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At least in comparisation
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Amagi
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Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
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Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
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It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
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I noticed this too
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@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
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Going to happen?
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in the future*
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I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
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juuni taisen
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@Anon: You explained it better than me.
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Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
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who likes naruto
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Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
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I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
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*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
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I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
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So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
Amagi
I mean there are parts I like. I enjoyed the first episode, and the part about the country of liars. But many other things annoy me and the last episode was the worst. I also feel like the edgy bomb loli and slapstick Kino don't fit to the rest of the show somehow. Maybe I forgot everything, but the "old" Kino felt like a better character to me somehow, this one is more faithful to the LNs though
Amagi
@Kaiser: I honestly gave up on Kino and I think it's only partly the fault of the new series. I am just so tired of how stupid most of the episodic-characters are unless their are friends of Kino, how everyone gets bent being irredeemable evil for plot's sake and how everything Kino and her friends do gets justified. Maybe I am just too old or boring for this fairy tail like moral bending.
SuperMario
Still have Night is Short review to write... i will get there. I will get there
Anonymous1612237
It's like having potty mouth characters. If you have one, it can be funny and a good comedic relief. If everyone does it, it can come out as mean spirited or trashy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I haven't watched A Bad Idea Gone Wrog, as for now my top priority is to catch up with 2017 anime for the Yearly summary. But I will get on to it when I have some free time
Anonymous1612237
Amagi - Chibi stuff I've seen it mainly work in anime comedies with low budgets like Those Who Hunt Elves, Ranma, Excel Saga, Arakawa Under the Bridge, Nanbaka, etc. I think if you really have to use it in a more serious anime, I think it might work if it was part of one character's gag.
SuperMario
Children of the Whales, along with Juuni Taisen, keep falling out on me. Kino is pretty a hit-or-miss at the moment. I don't mind the last episode's multiple tales though
Niello
Problem about AMB chibi jokes are that they arwn't funny in the first place nor do they have a punch line.
Niello
@Eoghan, Really surprise you put Children of the Whales so high, I'm falling behind on some shows but it is still near the bottom of my list (the absolute bottom remains Kino).
Kaiser-Eoghan
The latest Kino episode was a real slap in the face/insult, really really thought that one segement would carry on for the whole episode and be a redemptive one/getting the series back on form but then it followed it up with crap comic relief segement.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: For now yes.
Lenlo
Droppin Mahou Kaiser?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I no longer care what Dia's gender is, no longer I will lie to myself and deem them female.
Kaiser-Eoghan
5. would be juuni taisen
Kaiser-Eoghan
My rankings for the season based on what I am following: 1. Houseki no kuni 2. Children of the whales 3. inuyashiki 4. girls last tour dropping mahou and Kino.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't remember Joseph being all that present from what little I read of the manga.
Amagi
Fear so too. I mean it has a bunch of good ideas and good quality and such, but it feels like it won't be much more than the magical being of the week (or two weeks) and some Elias highjinks inbetween
Kaiser-Eoghan
I still say, I've got the feeling mahou will be wasted potential that won't really go anywhere much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Did you watch that indie film you recommended yet? Bad idea gone wrong it was called. I just finished it there, budgetary limitations and outside of Matt Jones the acting isn't great, theres a few limp/dead bits too, nonetheless it has its amusing moments here and there to make for an okay comedy that isn't all that essential but amusing enough in moments if your bored.
Amagi
Yeah I think Mahou has some pacing issues. But I also think it would work way better if it was less episodic or semi-episodic.
SuperMario
I normally don't mind the chibi stuff that much but I agree in Mahoutsukai they break the tone and pacing. Serious at one time, fluffy at another...
Amagi
@Vonter: I honestly never like chibi stuff I think. Didn't care back then but nowadays I consider it annoying. One reason is that jokes only work when they aren't pointed out but just happen, sometimes even so casually that you almost miss them. Turning everyone into a chibi for a joke makes it as fun as repeating, explaining or shouting it again (which many series also do)
KTravlos
I have to give it to Altair. It got me reading the manga. The episode this week did skip over a whole manga story, but to be frank it is not too much of a loss. Pacing issues still exist. One thing I noticed was a degrading in animation. They are probably hoarding for the next two episodes which are the major battle.
Anonymous1611511
Just dropping my 2c here: Isn't it too late for the studio to correct such inherent design issue once eps start rolling out?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Angel: The dub wasn't all that impressive in the first place however.
Angel
When Will fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub come out?
Vonter
The chibi stuff sadly, is like watching someone make the same mistake over and over again, without acknowledging that thing isn't coming across well. At this point it seems like an intentional choice rather than just cutting corners. Kinda like when an anime has a decent dub but has that one character with a really annoying voice.
Lenlo
Its continued this willful ignorance, this virtual refusal, to actually address the issue. Thing about the chibi is, the first scene with Silver worked. Then it just got overused.
KTravlos
Mahoutsukai continues denying itself. We finally had some tough questions asked, but the show just ignored them in the 2nd half (with generous doses of chibi). That said Elias true form is terrifying.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: If you enjoy The Scent of the Green Papaya and Cyclo, you can also check out his unofficial third film about Vietnam: The Vertical Ray of the Sun, which is about the modern day of Hanoi. It's my favorite film of his, although I know that artistically it can't compare to his earlier films
SuperMario
And I can say the mafia aspect of Cyclo is more like Hong Kong than Vietnam. But, whatever. I like this one well enough
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I particularly love the score in Cyclo. No wonder later on Tran Anh Hung asked Joony Greenwood from Raidoohead to score his films. His score has the same uncomfortable feeling with this one
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would have watched an entire story based around that old man in the new Kinos journey episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Though while I never found it boring, it did feel it could have had a better narrative.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Cyclo I felt has some reasonable sketched characters and the aesthetic sells the viewer on the environment the characters are living in, Tony Leung was my favourite in it, I also like how some Asian films are able to mix quietness with moments of violence, makes it much more visceral.
SuperWooper
I'd lean towards weirdest thing you've ever seen. It's certainly up there for me.
Masky
...I can't figure out whether Sengoku Jidai with batman is weirdest thing I have ever seen or makes completely perfectly sense and was inevitable it would happen
K-Off
The map design should've been vastly more different, I'd love to hear why they thought it was worth it to keep the same maps as Gaiden. So. Much. Open. Fields.
K-Off
Finally got to playing Fire Emblem Shadow, and 15 hours in I'm already not a fan of the gameplay. The story is vastly superior to Gaiden, but it looks like it missed the point on how to make a good remake. The maps are just as god awful as in Gaiden and for it, (in hard mode) it feels like a game of numbers rather than strategy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I feel drama need not always go for emotions in the audiences but can be effective in a solely cold observational sense and approach.
SuperMario
haha you don't need to spy you know. Like I said Discord chat has been active lately. I find myself more comfortable chatting in there for some reasons.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I spy on the discord chat sometimes
Kaiser-Eoghan
Worried about this Junji itou adaptation thats coming up, hope it isn't one of those zero animation web-short series.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: he still has Flashmob in which he intended to make. Yeah, he started his career quite late but he has had a very successful career
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Potentially could be his last film, he is quite old.
SuperMario
Agree that Happy End has many quirkier moments compared to his other works. Still a solid work but I won't rank it amongst his best
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Watching Happy End, you can immediately realize many of Haneke's favorite themes: the voyeur/camera in Benny's Video, Cache; the latent racism like you mentioned, the idea that killing someone you love is better than watching them suffering, the underlying violence in a normal middle class life in most of his works
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Like with code unknown, its approach to latent rascism is far better handled than for example a terrible hollywood oscar bait drama would handle it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I felt though had the film been a bit longer, Huppert and Jones could have gotten more scenes, same with Franz Rogowski's character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I did however think that the disjointed nature of the earlier parts were both to the advantage and disadvantage of the film. But it delivers a killer of a last act that I loved.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I finally got around to seeing happy end, I liked the Cache and amour references and how Haneke cheekily managed to insert quirkier moments and even wry ones so seemlessly into the narrative. Fontaine ,Kassovitz and Tringnent had the best scenes, particularly the ones between Fontaine and Tringnent.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Physical, non-verbal communication is a far more valuable way of conveying information I believe and more effective in fiction.
SuperMario
Report on Just Because so far: they took on the three-way romance direction, which I initally ain't fond of. But last episode actually was great with the focus on body gestures and natural dialogues, delivering one of the brst exchange the show has this season. A good watch overall
Lenlo
Sadly, the only anime youll probably get like that will be made outside japan, like Castlevania was, and wouldnt be considered "anime" by most of the community. A shame, cause Castlevania was great.
Lenlo
A classic western would be cool. Like Red Dead the anime.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But I am just coming up with fantasizing now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Even a Raymond Chandler style of story.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd also love to see a non-scifi western anime get made now or even an east meets west thing with cowboys AND samurai in it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Thats a good example Vonter I guess but I probably should have been more clear/clarified that what I meant is that I wanted to see more noir anime being made NOW , I want netflix to back one . I mean the kind of thing where everyone is wearing fedoras and trench coats and its 1930/40/50, shadows everywhere or it looks impressionistic.
Vonter
Kaiser-Eoghan - Monster is a very grounded detective like story. The villain is good and intimidating, some moral dilemmas are poignant and despite being animated I remember it having good direction of photography since the story takes place Germany, Prague, and some other places.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've only seen bits of wolf rain many years ago, never bothered with it further after hearing the pacing is terrible and it makes an unsatisfactory ending even less worth waiting for.
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