Posted by psgels on 28 November 2006 with categories: Tsubasa Chronicle

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And with this, the second season of Tsubasa Chronicle has ended. All that’s left now is to look forward to April, in which its third and final season will air. Fei Wong also had some interesting reasons for being involved in this arc. Because of Dhaos’ huge powers, they were able to locate Sakura and Syaoran again. If they could take this power, they’d be able to control Syaoran’s journey again. Chaos himself ended up being indeed a cluster of feathers, who developed a mind of their own. He indeed possessed a huge amount of feathers, meaning that the ones he fed Sakura were specifically created for that purpose.

There were a few strange things about this episode. Some things I didn’t expect. First of all, when Dhaos disappeared and turned back into the feathers, they actually scattered, instead of returning to Sakura. Only one feather found its way back to her, which also explains where Dhaos got his inspirations for the fake memories he created.

I also actually expected Fei Wong’s plan to succeed in the end. After all, then he’d get back in the picture again. I’m suspecting that he’s going to succeed somewhere in the third season. In any case, once he does, the fillers will be entirely over.

[EDIT]Okay, there isn’t going to be a third season, unfortunately. If a third season was planned somehow, then it would already have been announced.

87 Responses

  1. Ren says:

    There’s been speculation that there won’t be a 3rd season for Tsubasa. Wouldn’t that be terrible??

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Ow… that isn’t good. Still, after all the building up, it would be almost impossible for a third season not to be broadcasted. And if the creators knew about the bad sales, why didn’t they air manga-material, in order to lure viewers back?

  3. Sora says:

    Really?! That would be a disaster! I got hooked on the series when a friend told me it was CLAMP’s ‘greatest work’! Is season 3 really the last season? There won’t be any more after that?

    IMO, 26 episodes seem too short to finish up all the loose ends in the story… What about Fai and Kurogane’s story? We don’t even know much about Fai yet! And about Sakura’s father Clow Reed… Since that Fei Wang guy and Sakura’s father share the same family name, that means that they’re related?! How about Syaoran’s mysterious double? I wonder what that was all about… And Yuuko, too. She seems as if she knows what’s going to happen to Syaoran and the group…

    Forgive me for my ramblings but I really want confirmation… It’s not just only me but I feel that most of the series’ fans would like to know as well…

  4. psgels psgels says:

    Hmm, for as far as I know, the third season has neither been confirmed nor denied. I’d hate to see it getting canceled, though.

    And about the huge number of lose ends… if I had to guess, then it seems that the creators will be turning up the pacing another notch, if this keeps up.

  5. BakaWawa says:

    What The Hell…!!!!?? I Want To Continues Watch Leh~~~…..I Want To Know About That Fei Wang….Also The Boy Seem Same Like Syaoran!!….Who was That!!!??……Hope It Not Be Canceled And Coming Out The 3rd Series…Argh!!!!!

  6. psgels psgels says:

    Heh, I feel the same. I’m dying to find out how this show will resolve. After all that time this anime spent building up, it would be a huge waste not to resolve it.

  7. Kimi says:

    It would be horrible if they don’t do 3rd season ;;__;; Because I really want to see all those acts what happen in the manga on move. But I believe if they’re going to quit Tsubasa from now, they have a good reason for it u__u

  8. secret^^ says:

    is there a specific date on which it will be out?? because i have been checking it everyday since april 1 and it is getting a bit annoying. ther better be a third season i gotten so into it that i cannot stop thinking about it.

  9. psgels psgels says:

    Well, don’t put your hopes on Tsubasa Chronicle coming out soon. Right now, the reruns have nearly ended (they will end around the beginning of May), but when they end, Dennou Coil will be taking over its timeslot. Apart from that, we have no new news about the third season.

  10. Envie says:

    Well, after going on the NHK’s TRC site (http://www3.nhk.or.jp/anime/tsubasa/index.html), it appears that there IS going to be a 3rd series. I think. Under the black writing in the top right that says 6:30-6:55, there’s some red writing that says (as much as I can read) “From the 4th of April __________”. If there wasn’t going to be a new series, they probably wouldn’t have this announcement. Unless, I suppose it’s announcing the reruns but that just seems anticlimatic. If anyone can read more japanese, could they tell me what it means? XD Arigatou in advance ^^

  11. Envie says:

    Edit: 7th of April, even *blushes*

  12. psgels psgels says:

    I’m not sure about the meaning, but the fact that the 7th of april has passed, with no news or no releases probably means that it’s about something completely different. Most likely the schedule of the reruns has been changed or something.

  13. psgels psgels says:

    Negima: You do realize that that’s an april fool’s joke, don’t you?

  14. Evilson says:

    Don’t worry about it. I will find a way to see it coming or not. If so, I will info you when I heard it. Got it. If you have the question for me, then ask me if you like.

  15. Evilson says:

    Rumor of April 7th is a lie. I learned most around the end of April between the middle of May.

    Here it is: I found another rumor:

    Final Thoughts: This second block of episodes certainly had its ups and downs. What surprised me a little was that my favorite episodes – the ChiXFye one and the super-deformed one – came from anime-original ones. It just goes to show that they’re not all mediocre.
    Assuming NTV follows their current schedule of Tsubasa reruns, episode 53 should premiere on May 12th, 2007. Hopefully the third series will be better overall. There’s some very good story coming, but we’ll have to wait until next year for the journey to continue.

  16. psgels psgels says:

    That’s another rumour that’s wrong. Dennou Coil will be taking over Tsubasa’s timeslot on May 12th, which means that the series is about to be taken off the air. Also, if that rumour really was to be true, we’d have heard something about it by now.

  17. Evilson says:

    Hey, Psgels. But, I did check every site (about Tsubasa Chronicles 3rd Series). It said it will start in May. I really don’t know. If it is April 29, 2007, I will find it out. you too.

  18. Da Beysta says:

    So… has there been any news about the third season?

  19. psgels psgels says:

    Nope. Not that I know of at least. If it were to start in may, it would have been announced already.

  20. Aska says:

    I could be wrong but i do hear that CLAMP cut the ties with Bee train and there will be no third season. I’m really trying to figure out if thats true. I can’t read Japanese so I really can’t figure out if that info is on their website.

  21. Pika says:

    NO! there must be a season3….I waited so long for season3…please email me if there’s any news about season3……i have been hunting high and low but i cant get anythg at all. sob sob….

  22. Oriental says:

    Yeah, I’ve heard that it’s supposed to start on 12th May. It was originally supposed to start beginning of april but there was a problem between the people who made the anime happen. I don’t know much about it though. That’s what my friend who lives in Japan said.

    I can’t wait to see it though, I really want to see how the story unfolds and whether there is a happy ending or not for Sakura and Syaoran. I still don’t get the bit with the two Syaoran’s though, obviously they have a plan. I can’t wait ;)

  23. Aska says:

    Okay so i got a little more info on this.

    they’re airing episode 26 this Saturday, May 5.

    Then it says “Tsubasa Chronicle. Last chapter, the climax.” After that, on May 12, it is going to be replaced.

    Where’s the evidence you ask?

    It’s all in Japanese!
    Had to ask someone if they knew what was going on..
    >.

  24. psgels psgels says:

    Yeah, if there’s any time for the third season to be announced, it’s the coming saturday, after the re-airing finishes. If that isn’t the case, then there’s indeed not a lot of hope for a third season.

  25. Da Beysta says:

    so… today is the day.. keep me updated plx :P

  26. psgels psgels says:

    Okay, it’s May 5th, and an announcement has appeared on the website. According to babelfish, it says the following:

    “Broadcast ended. Support thank you.”

    In other words, the chance of a third season coming is very unlikely. Unfortunately, the fact that Beetrain cut ties with clamp is true, and episode 52 meant the ending of this series.

    I’m just going to assume that Tsubasa is over now. I don’t feel like waiting for something that might never come. It’s just a waste of enthusiasm.

  27. Da Beysta says:

    /cry

  28. Evilson says:

    DAMN IT!!! I WILL GET THE REVENGE FOR THAT!!! I WANT TO SEE IT ON SEASON 3 BADLY!!! LET’S HOPE IT WILL START IN MAY 12TH, 2007.

  29. psgels psgels says:

    If I may give you a tip: do not get false hope. The series won’t air on May 12th for sure, and if you continue to hope for it, it’ll only lead to disappointment. And hey, if the third season somehow does get announced, it’ll only make the enjoyment better. ;)

  30. hitzusen says:

    damn. I really enjoyed the way the anime was made too. So I’m guessing xxxHOLiC anime season 2 ain’t gonna happen?
    damnit.

  31. Andrea says:

    So its may 14nth did Tsubasa chronicles came out already?

  32. psgels psgels says:

    Andrea: nope, it didn’t.

  33. Chip says:

    Aw man. I just went through all of season 2, telling myself that I’d be right on time for the beginning of season 3. I think that it’s pretty -bleep-ing cruel to have fillers and teasers all throughout season 2, and then never follow it up with a season full of answers. Now I’m going to have to read the whole manga from the beginning so I don’t miss anything. Gahh, I want to know more about Syaoran’s double… T____T

  34. Christine says:

    Chip: Just read the manga. You’ll know info about “Syaoran’s double”.

    I’m sad that there’s no third season, too. I was expected to have third season coming up in the future. I think I’ll stick reading manga because some storyline in anime is the same as manga.

  35. natalie_rae says:

    this sucks!!

    the 3rd season was suppose to come out may 14th this year!

    they cancelled it because of some stupid company that doesnt want an anime showing liquor or smoking to the little kids.. this aint fair to the other people, right?

    i love syaoran and sakura!
    ill miss them!
    i hope that company changes their mind and show the next season to us!!
    dont u think so too?

  36. Alex says:

    WHAT?! why wont there be a thrid season? there has to be a thrid season, cause they left too many fillers in the second and first seasons. too many questions, unless they expect the viewers to read the manga, which id love to if i could get to a damned library!! >

  37. Alex says:

    ALSO, i heard from various sites that there will be NO MAY SHOWING AT ALL, and that they were cancelling the show all together. this really pisses me off cause they have worked so hard to get everyone off their seats, and suddenly they wanna stop production? WTH!!!

  38. psgels psgels says:

    Yeah, I’m not exactly happy with it either, but supposedly Bee-Train and CLAMP got in a fight, and were forced to break connection.

  39. hui yee says:

    what the y no season three and why Bee-Train and CLAMP must got a fight what happened in between

  40. tata says:

    if there’s no season 3…..it means that the crew that are in charge of it is irresponsible…how come??the journey hasn’t reach the end….still so many mystery left…..That isn’T a nice ending anyway….i thing anime just Like that…aLways hav SUX ending…they end it when they want to…if so ,better not to make the anime from the beginning…always keep ppl guessing…wat a horrible stuff….

  41. Dewey says:

    I’ve been patiently waiting for it to come…and for them not to complete it is not just a disappointment but also irresponsible thing…there are a lot of fans to this anime…I”m already pissed off of a lot of other animes for having abruct endings with no continuations..why don’t we have a petition for this?!

  42. Voula says:

    can anybody help me? Iwill never be able to read the maga of tsubasa chronicle!! see, you are more lucky than I am, cause you have alredy read the end. In the country I live, the manga are not so popular. So I’m never going to see, read or hear about the ending. you may be more grateful about your luck!

  43. psgels psgels says:

    Voula: have you tried to see whether any groups are still scanlating the manga?

  44. Kerebrus says:

    If that is true than why in the anime they had said that the journey has not ended, and in the end they had mentioned that the series was going to continue but did not had an specific date in which it was going to come out but if what youll are saying is true that they cut the show That F……pisses me off.

  45. MetalMouthMary says:

    So there won’t be a third season? Yeah i had figured much from youtube, oh well… I know where you can go see the manga, it’s kay? I’m sure it’ll help some people especially for english-speaking people like me. LoL.

  46. MetalMouthMary says:

    Grr.. stupid thing won’t let me post urls…. darnit! oh well, you cna always search on MSn groups, trust me i ofund it there!!!

  47. Kerebrus says:

    By my guess since there are releasing the seasons on the dvds that there is still a chance it might come out on the dvd since it was announced that the season 3 was coming out so they might need a new way to release this the third seasons. There are to many rumors and none of them seem to be truthfull , I wouldnt get peoples hopes up since to many rumors , but in this one website there were speaking about Tsubasa Chronicles a sort of a review and was rated 8.1. There may be a chance it may be released in the near future, Hepefully.

  48. psgels psgels says:

    At the moment, there indeed are a lot of rumours, though some of them may have some truth. Let’s wait for official confirmations before jumping the gun. I think I know what you’re talking about, Kerebrus, did you mean AnimeTV? If you did, then they were just discussing the first of the Tsubasa Chronicle DVDs, so the first season. They probably didn’t even know that the current Tsubasa Chronicle is as incomplete as it is right now.

  49. Kerebrus says:

    Ive seen all 52 episodes, I’d say is the best show CLAMP has come up with, for the only reason that this anime caught my attention was if Sakura would be able to remember Syaron in the end. This what go me so picked in to the show, STP witch taking the most precious memories, either way Id say it was the best anime that I’ve seen so far cause this kind of anime catch my attention it has a good storyline. Id say to many people are coming with to many conclusions when it hasn’t been announced officially I wish there was a way to email clamp like a sort of petition asking for season 3, that might work.

  50. Kerebrus says:

    If any one read this, all the news that were posted that was coming out on April/May it was never confirmed correctly, well think about this when season two of TRC supposely that it wasnt coming out but it did, and Ive been seen the dates in which the seasons have been coming out and have some sort of pattern to it so maybe it may come out later, is to all who still have hope for this series, not my intention to raise false hope but is only a glimpse of light.

  51. Rubimoon says:

    I dunno, this is way too shocking I’ve just watched the last episode and although it is an ok ending for the 2 season, it is a stupid ending for the whole series. In you tube I saw some videos and there was an AMV that had some parts of tsubasa I’ve never seen before. They look somehow different but there are only some parts. What the heck does this mean!? They show Sakura and Syaoran a bit more gorwn up. I know this might not make sense but are those parts from tsubasa at all? and if they are, why havent I seen them although I have seen the whole of 52 episodes and I never saw those parts. I am not trying to make people false hopes, but isn’t it a bit strange…I would really like someone to reply to that please!

  52. Hinode says:

    @Rubimoon … it’s a guess since I haven’t seen the AMV you’re referring but maybe those scenes are from the movie ..

  53. psgels psgels says:

    Great news, my speculations were wrong: an OVA has been announced. Go to
    http://psgels.net/2007/06/12/tsubasa-chronicle-ova/
    for more information.

  54. Raja Ikwan Hariz says:

    i konw that tsubasa chronicles season3
    but when?
    maybe next year o some thing dis yer
    i wan to watch the next episode
    on season 3
    in season 2 i have to on Animax

  55. psgels psgels says:

    Unfortnately, it’s still a question whether season three will come. It’ll all depend on how well the OVAs, that will be coming this autumn sell.

  56. jessthebest says:

    ive just watched the last ep of season two and im really deperessed with the whole there wont be a season three. I heard that CLAMP wont make it cause the broadcasting of Japan wont support them so they dun have enough money. Its around 50K for one ep. But that is just what someone said in a doodad XD.
    but either way its still depressing
    XP
    Anyway does anyone know what chapter the manga has on the anime episode 52??

  57. Creator says:

    WHAT THE HECK I see many anime doesn’t end -_- I realy hate it. why does it end at episode 52 that realy short like XXXHolic end about 20+
    Darn it
    What chapter does episode 52 D; send me some information by email :[

  58. none says:

    there is no more
    Tsubasa Chronicle

  59. psgels psgels says:

    Like I said, my speculations are wrong, and there’s going to be an OVA somewhere in autumn.

  60. Caitlin says:

    my guess at why they aren’t doing a 3rd season is because. Sakura lost so many feathers which means she lost a lot of memories. and they probably won’t be able to fit all the answers to the mysteries while having them collect all the feathers in just 26 episodes. it sucks. i do wish they would finish the series.
    i just l♥v the series. i really wish they would finish the series.

  61. ash says:

    WHAT ? no season 3 !? thats horrible ! i mean .. its like hanging in the air.. swts ==”
    But the manga is nice though =PP

  62. blue-jay says:

    I think there will be a 3rd season;shaoran’s double hasn’t came out yet, fai’s past is still unknown, and sakura’s secret mysterious powers are still “mysterious”, so I really don’t think they are just going to end it right there.

    I think shaoran’s double is just part of shaoran, except it’s the evil side of him…….

  63. all about tsubasa says:

    i don’t think there will be any season 3 ,but the comics is still in print.The syaoran who was travelling with the group all the while was a clone created by Fei Wong.The real syaoran is the one captured by Fei Wong

  64. all about tsubasa says:

    the sad thing is sakura never remembered syaoran

  65. all about tsubasa says:

    If you read the comics,Fai is actually the prince of another country,brought to celes country by the king.(fai’s past is sort of sad,if you read the comics)

  66. bubbleman says:

    there’s a trailer of the OVA on youtube.com

  67. jenny says:

    Where can you read the manga? and what chapter is after the anime finishes?

  68. all about tsubasa says:

    u can read the comics at http://www.onemanga.com

  69. George1234 says:

    A OVA of tsubasa chronicle has been announced. These episodes are not Season 3. They addiction episode which explain some thing (about syarans eye , I dream that sakura saw and something else. The OVA series is name Tokyo Revelations. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsubasa:_Reservoir_Chronicle
    scroll till you find a headline name “Tokyo Revelations”

  70. Heyyyyy says:

    They shud of made Shaoran n others fly around n gather as many feathers as possible in the end. That would have saved some time.

  71. Anni says:

    http://www.tvrage.com/shows/id-2423/episodes/572857/3×01 Check this website out and can you confirm if the 3rd season is actually going to come out in 3 days?? (well japan i mean) I don’t know who’s right and who’s wrong anymore X____x I hope this site is right though (I’d jump up and down for about a week) =)

  72. Windspirit says:

    The Magician’s Message is actually the first OVA’s title.
    The OVAs are NOT 3rd season, they’re 3 OAVs animated by a totally different studio in a totally different style (in a more shonen-like style, without insert songs, epic music, still-frames to build up the atmosphere, etc., everything that made me LURVE the Bee Train seasons, in short) meant to adapt the manga’s chapters 107-135.

    And, oh God, they totally FUCKED X’s cast. And Subaru has’t appeared yet. T____T

  73. Haven says:

    Sry those who like Syoron…But i want to said,Chaos is really cool!!!I like his hair!!!I’m learning how to draw this Chaos guy.But i don’t like this Chaos in Tsubasa Chronicle..He is very mean!

  74. KEA says:

    I LOVE tsubasa! Did you noticed that through out the series {in the manga and anime} that in the manga there was some worlds that are not in the anime and that there are some worlds in the anime that are not in the manga?Well I did. If you have been reading/watching the manga/anime then you would have noticed by now. ^_^

    P.S. SPOILER ALERT!!

    In the manga and OAV there is the apperince of 2, and may I repeat this again, 2 Syaron’s in the story! One of them was a clone(the one from The Kingdom of Clow)! I know its shocking, trust me on this,I was shocked too! Later on you can read the story about Fai’s past too!(who is also half VAMPIRE now!)They go to Fai’s homeland(thats where they learn about his past)they also go to Karogane’s homeland too(after his arm was chopped off too as I might add).This is in CHAPTiRE 174 in the manga,but Clone Syaron comes and battels it out with the Original Syaron while Sakura (as usual) is dead asleep.
    No need to thank me about giving theese valuable spoilers that are not out in English yet,but your welcome anyways!^_^
    BYE!:D

  75. Sesshys Lover says:

    about the 3rd season… if the OVAs (Tsubasa Tokyo Revelations) is a successful then Production I.G (who made the OVAs) will consider about the offer to do the 3rd season..

  76. manga & anime lover says:

    another spoiler-there was another Sakura,the one that was following the group all the while was another clone made by Fei Wong.Read chapter 178 & 179 at http://www.onemanga.com to find out more…

  77. iRISH jOY says:

    I hope this will featered in Animax.

  78. Trenton says:

    HOW COULD THERE NOT BE A THIRD SEASON. I stared watching this anime like a 2 weeks ago, and became instantly hooked. The viewers need to know what is going to happen.

  79. Angelica says:

    Please send seasone 3 of tsubasa chronicle before it’s to late plz

  80. Aish says:

    OMG say what! i’m dying to watch tsubasa and i’ve been reading about the episodes and now there’s not gonna be a third season? Your kidding me ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, please please let their be a thrid season!

  81. milfa-eun says:

    iF tsubasa Chronicles wouldnt be having a 3rd season, how could an anime fan like me wait that long. they wanted us to wait?! my goSh, can there be no 3rd season without me knowing hus the guy who had syaoran’s whole being, and whats with his eyes??.. i had a bunch of questions in my mind,
    when?

  82. micah elinor says:

    awww……. i want the 3rd season to be aired already

  83. Roberto says:

    I have just finished the two seasons of Tsubasa chronicles as well as Tsubasa Chronicles Tokyo Revelations and Tsubasa Shunraiki. This series turned out to be the best anime I have ever seen. If they do not end it I would be most irritated. However…we must not give up, just like Sharoan.

  84. Shane says:

    these episode are awesome and i hope they continue with a 3rd series because it would really be disappointing to everyone and even me as a person who loves watching these episodes of Tsubasa as well.
    So Let They Be More Episodes!!!!!

  85. Nikoru says:

    I agree this series was amazing!! I wish they would contiune the show to a third season so many unanwser questions. Now that I have watched all the anime Im on to the manga and I hope the comics will conclude completely through I want to understand and know if Syoaran will save Sakura and was the little Sakura a clone too? Why didnt Yukito and her brother know or did they? When was she captured to make the clone? Arg so crazy XD I

  86. Noelia says:

    I’m so upset that I cannot find episode 53! I really want to know the rest of everything. Syaoran, Sakura, Fay, Kurogane; I gotta find out! I cant watched the subbed episodes. I’m terrible with japanese! Please produce TRC dubbed!!!! I’m beggin ya!

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So we got to rely on fansubs for it when it's airing.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Nope. I think because netflix only puts up full seasons they are only planning to put it up when it's finished airing. Or when it's dubbed.
SuperMario
But how does the Netflix thing work? So of I have a Netflix account I can watch the show weekly?
SuperMario
@Aidan: that's a dumb way to do things really because unless you watch the show weekly, everyone gonna forget that it even exist. Just look at Re-Life last year
Lenlo
thought*. Words are hard.

Eventually found the actual first ep though and enjoyed it.
Lenlo
Was funny. I tried to find the first Ep for Little Witch, found original short made afew years ago, watched it and though "This is very similar to the original... Whats new".
AidanAK47
Little witch is one of the best shows this season and yet I can't get subtitles because Netflix doesn't release shows weekly. Motherf*cker.
Lenlo
Ore Monogatari I enjoyed. It was a nice romance that actually explored what happens after the confession. Also the 2 leads are just precious.
Lenlo
Alright but unmemorable seems like a good summation.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: one good thing about Seiren is if you don't like this romance, the whole thing gonna reset after episode 4 so there's a chance that you might end up like it. Agreed that the comedy wasn't very good. Alright but unmemorable
SuperMario
@Topgavin: I watched like first 3 episodes and stopped because I didn't have much time there, but I enjoyed what I saw. A well-written and endearing show in my book
Topgavin
Has anyone here watched Ore Monogatari before? Because in the 4 years I've watched anime, I've never heard of it (I guess it did come out 2 years ago) and yet it's turning out to be one of my favorite shows. Always great going into a show expecting nothing and getting pleasantly surprised.
AidanAK47
Only one more impression to go. Should have it up tomorrow.
Lenlo
Im really not feeling Seiren. Its "comedy" isnt for me and I just dont find it very enjoyable to watch so far. Im curious if it gets any better but 2 episodes in it just isnt that good.
HelghastKillzone
That ending scene is an entire side-story compressed into that. Don't expect anymore of it from here on out as the it sticks to ruthless military/fantasy pretty well.
LookingForKeys
@Topgavin I think it was good, making it the second episode. That way the first set up the world the story will be in, and showed how much of a monster the "little girl" really is right at the end, and then made ep.2 the explanation. Nothing against Tanya trying to rip "God" a new one.
That after-credits scene, though...
SuperMario
Hmm, as much as I like Seiren's omnibus format, it doesn't turn out really hot this second episode. Demi-chan, on the other hand, still maintains its endearing tone. Might blogging Demi-chan instead
Topgavin
Yeah, that second episode was much better than the first. Dunno why they didn't start with that to be honest, waste of an opportunity for a good hook episode. The voice for the main girl still sounds weird to me though; I get it's supposed to sound weird because it symbolizes 'her' being out of place and her personality and body being a mismatch, but it'll certainly take some getting used to.
AidanAK47
Youjo Senki, now we are talking. Like Helghast said, Did the god scene way better than the LN and manga. Made it less comedic and more intimidating.
Lenlo
Oh man that Rakugo intro. Not sure what to think, but first time seeing it I liked it
Kaiser Eoghan
I sort of like good will hunting because I kind of saw a bit of myself in Damon's character when I watched it ages ago.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Remaking psycho and ruining the shower scene, for shame van sant, for shame.
Kaiser Eoghan
Its easy to ripoff some obscure thing though and get away with it. The dogtooth director essentially stole an old Mexican film to make that.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: yeah, that following some guys from behind like they were on a RPG games, which I think actually fit with the tones of Elephant. I have such mixed feeling with Gus van Sant too. Don't really think he's a great director.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Although Istvan Szabo is probably a little more well known for that Mephisto film that updates the Faust story. Zoltan Fabri's the fifth seal is a very thought provoking war movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I remember seeing a film documentary that featured Gus van sant in one section, they showed clips of tarrs films, Sant ripped of the cinematography and stole the style from some British short film to make Elephant.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree on the other Hungarian filmmakers, I don't know much about them either.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Scorsese's Silence was a big comeback. I really really emotionally connect with spiritual crisis stories.
SuperMario
@kaiser: yep, definitely check wreckmeister down. Althought I admit that watching his 2-hour plus films will feel like 5-hour anyways
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm more tolerant of darker teenage/coming of age films/stories. Les Demons was a big surprise.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Though its kind of frustrating, I do think Tarr probably takes attention away from other hungarian filmakers because no-body knows who the hell the others are.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Man, wreckmeister was so visually arresting I started getting dreams from it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I would consider Tarr to be kind of a poor mans Janco, Angelopolus and Tarkvosky rolled into one. I don't entirely "get" wreckmeister and man from London but they are great atmospheric mood piece experiences.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I had been wanting to watch Belar Tarr's Turin Horse and Werckmeister Harmonies for so long now. Well, Fat Girl is shocking haha, but I'm normally drawn into those kind of films anyway.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Margaret took like 5,6 years to release because he couldn't cut it down in the way he wanted. The final cut if I remembered correctly was edited by Martin Scorsese
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Only a HDcam for moonlight now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I looks like my lineup is witch academia, rakugo and youjo senki, well the most latter one until I get bored.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I sense a directors cut for manchester, it feels like it need another 30 minutes.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: right up my valley. Watch Kenneth Lonergan's previous works Magaret and You Can Count on Me. Magaret is very messy but have a raw dialogue and interactions as well
SuperMario
Now the first episodes are over, I will keep on covering 3-gatsu, as for the other twos atm I have 3 options: 1) full romance/anti-romance high school Seiren/Scum's Wish. 2) slice-of-life moe monster girls Demi-chan/Maid Dragon and 3) Mature,dark Onihen/Acca (which although I like them I don't have much to talk about).If you guys have any preference on which shows you like covered then let me know
Kaiser Eoghan
@Helghast: At this point I'm watching youjo senki as an entertaining guilty pleasure.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Too many reboots upcoming, will wait for the dvds instead. I want to explore more of manchester by the sea's director's work. I also want to finally get more into Bela Tarr's stuff.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I was rather shocked by A Ma souer/fat girls final act. Scenes with the Italian in the bedroom were initially creepy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it's a nice review Kaiser, a bit jealous with you that you've seen those 3 films which are touted as the best films of 2016. Also Fat Girl, haha, I love that movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
Poor yotaro =< you have so much stuff going down on you =<
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki episode was so good today. That revamped scene with God just fitted so right.
AidanAK47
A official release of that game in the west is apparently coming but it's been a few years and not much news about it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Ah yes that was the one.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Had to think for a moment on that one but I think I was talking about this. https://vndb.org/v3144
Kaiser Eoghan
Now I'd hardly consider myself a studio trigger fan, but I watched the first witch academia episode there, it was actually kind of fun, got the same reaction from me as flipflappers did, that magical, special feeling.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I also, of interest reviewed Kenneth Lonegrans new film: http://letterboxd.com/shao_liu_ringon/film/manchester-by-the-sea/
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Moonlight got some feels out of me though it could of been more, it ends abruptly and with 20 extra minutes they could have spent a bit more time on each section of his life.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I checked out lala land, ending was very well executed, one of three scenes in the film that were impressive visually. The whole thing looked pretty and Gosling and Stone had some decent chemistry. Although it didn't resonate emotionally as strongly as the musicals of Jacques Demi did.
Kaiser Eoghan
MOM I want aiyoku no eustia and I want it now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I've never heard of himawari or tokyo babel. The hellsing comparison at least interests me in dies irae. What was the name of that visual novel again that was coming out soon, Aidan you described it as "And Kaiser would love it because its supposed to be really fucked up".
Kaiser Eoghan
I vaguely remember the anime for 11 eyes, it was very forgettable, even the voice acting was poor, hated the childhood friends and the pacing was poor, those black knight things were kind of interesting though.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: You'll have to add me onto the list of those unsatisfied with the ever 17 writer, I read one of those games and felt it was a bunch of interesting bait that never paid off.
AidanAK47
Anyway I plan on doing a review of 11eyes here when I finish it.
AidanAK47
Can't say I was a fan of Ever17. That was a really good twist but when it came to explaining it their was a lot of contrived development. Generally not a fan of the writer. Looseboy, Ryukishi, Gen and Nasu are more my kinda thing
AidanAK47
@Anon, it is nice that so many VNs are on steam but I wish they wouldn't be stupid with the whole no adult content thing. Not so much for myself but to prevent idiots from writing negitives reviews because the game doesn't have sex. VNs can grip you in a way anime simply can't and while they require pathence and time those can be some pretty powerful stories.
Anonymous678956
@Aidan, I am so happy steam's so VN-friendly now. I think it's a very good type of media. Like anime, it has nice visuals, music and some movement but also the inner monologue and text amount of books. It's the perfect combination. Plus, the routes, which are often puzzle pieces and PoVs you have to go through to understand the whole story. True routes like the one of Ever17 blew my mind.
AidanAK47
Hopefully the two VNs I bought of steam turn out better. Tokyo Babel is supposed to be alright and I heard really good things about Himawari.
AidanAK47
I am about a third of the way through the game and really not much of worth has happened. The concept is interesting but the execution is sorely lacking.
AidanAK47
I went in expecting it to be a mixed bag and it's pretty below my expectations. It's just not really well written and the protagonist is a moron. THere isn't really routes and instead you are pretty much stuck with his childhood friend as the main love interest. Problem with that is her character begins and ends with loving the main.
Anonymous675376
@Aidan, damn. 11Eyes is on my reading list as well. Although I almost expected it to not be as good as I thought it'd be (back then). Guess I would have enjoyed it if I was able to read it while the (shitty) adaption aired, maybe I have seen/read too many series by now. Guess I'll still give it a try some day though.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I haven't heard the OST or watched the intro video. I only know it be reputation and have decided to walk into it as blind as I can. Still slightly worried as I was somewhat looking forward to reading 11Eyes for a couple of years and now that I am reading it it's well...not good.
Anonymous675376
@Aidan, same here. I was waiting years for this, since I saw the intro video for the first time. Also, that OST!
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki is already leagues better than Izetta. It's going to be top anime of forever and ever. (maybe not)
AidanAK47
And finally Dies Irae is funded. May actually be able to play and finish the game before the anime airs. If the hype is real behind this baby it could be a new personal favorite Visual Novel of mine. Already looking promising with it being like a cross between Hellsing and Fate/Stay Night. Two things I most certainly like.
Lenlo
@Masky, in regards to style over substance thats where im at with Gurrne Lagann.
Topgavin
Yeah, I'll probably watch the next episode to see whether it can redeem itself. Hopefully it can but considering 1st episodes usually get a lot of budget, there's some severe doubt in there.
AidanAK47
I actually argee with character designs and voices are bad in regards to female characters. Still the next episode might change your mind if we get more into the main characters head.
Anonymous671470
It's boring
Topgavin
Also, it seems I disagree with a lot of people in thinking Youjo Senki will be a massive trainwreck. The character designs are awful, the voice acting is mismatched but most of all the premise just seems so very dumb. If I wanted to watch a badass kill people I'd go watch Hellsing or Drifters, because at least those don't have some op, disproportionate loli as the mc.
AidanAK47
Gets even more complicated when you account for Satire and Parody. You could equally argue all examples listed as being as such.
AidanAK47
Little Witch Academia is a decontruction of Harry Potter....I don't believe that but honestly if I tried I could put some reasoning behind that statement.
Topgavin
In the end, it always comes down to opinion (as with every discussion about anime, for some reason). You could spin any and every series as a "deconstruction", which is why people shy away from using the word. You could argue NGE, Madoka and Re:Zero are all deconstructions yet also argue Gundam, Precure and SAO are depending on what points you weigh more importantly.
Masky
Like, if deconstruction is supposed to be just "break the elements and then play story how it would realistically go down" well I haven't watched NGE, but as far as I know it does have stuff that isn't typical to mecha genre besides the "It would fuck up kids" thing plus "realistically how it would play out" is pretty subjective thing. I mean, its mainly about how cynical bastard the writer is :P
Masky
Like I said, I don't fully agree with it because I find video's speaker's attitude annoying, but I found it semi convincing. Main thing I don't find convincing about it is that I don't think its hard to turn video's own arguments agaisnt it and say that by its own logic NGE isn't deconstruction either, like Aidan just said earlier
Masky
And I don't really have energy for checking out the "correct" one. If there even is one. Anyway, the hipster video I was talking about was titled "What Actually Is A Deconstruction?" if you want to check it out.
Masky
Hmm, well, it does depend on definition you use. Like if you use "realistic" thing, well, Magical Girl shows don't usually have "You turn into monsters" thing going on and reason why NGE's pilots go crazy is from dangerous situations rather than evas making them do so. But honestly, I don't really have strong opinion on matter since word seems to be one of those with several different meaning
SuperMario
for me Madoka IS a deconstruction of Magical girl, and yeah like what Aidan said
SuperMario
I think part of Utena is a deconstruction of "prince riding horse and save the girl" because that notion is just a foundation for Utena to become a prince herself and save other girl. That's breaking it apart and resemble it again in its own way. Don't have to be dark/ don't have to be real either
AidanAK47
@Masky, That's just debating semantics. Besides that difinition would pretty much mean that Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't a decontruction either. Madoka isn't a decontruction because it's dark. It's more in its aspects of criticising why a girl should throw her ordinary life away for something as dangerous as being a magical girl. It does take plenty of the typical tropes and turn them on its head
SuperMario
@Masky: Genre deconstruction is such a tricky word that I normally try to avoid using because there's really no set characteristic about the term and different people have different opinions about what constitute "deconstruction". For me, I disagree that deconstruction have to be dark and real, hmm can't say it well but I will give you an example:
Masky
But yeah, I guess I could try to find the video if you guys are interested, though like I said, I got hipsterish feel from the video and felt rather annoyed through it even though I did get what the point was and found it sort of convincing besides my annoyance
Masky
(not that liking NGE is hipsterish, its just that I find NGE to be more style than substance sort of series <_< Anyway, guy didn't dislike madoka or anything, he just seemed to dislike people using word deconstruction wrong in his opinion)
Masky
(especially with how much they seemed to praise Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Masky
I mean, I think the guy was being somewhat hipsterish, but its true the being darker take on genre isn't same as deconstructing the genre
Masky
@AidanAK47: Some other guy on youtube did video that had actually pretty good point about how Madoka isn't really deconstruction, if you go by definition of "Break it down to parts and then play them straight to show how horrifying it would be in real life"
Anonymous670441
Gente - Ristorante no Hitobito
Kaiser Eoghan
If anything its the hate I have for certain characters that makes it more effective.
Kaiser Eoghan
The obsessional level of attachment is just uncomfortable to me, I don't want to get THAT attached to a non-real character.
Kaiser Eoghan
Its literally just a case of "Okay lets look at this picture of this character, she looks interesting, no feelings or expression from me, apply this fetish, fap, get release, go home. "
Kaiser Eoghan
Or drooling/dribbling/heavy breathing/grinning over the characters. I abhor alot of the anime girls I find attractive or am indifferent, even when looking at ecchi/hentai drawings I'm straight and clinical with it.
Kaiser Eoghan
I mean to each their own. But I really hate the level of emotion/devotion to moe/finding the characters attractive. Such as celebrating their birthdays, going on about how cute/hot they are, how important it is that they're virgins. Or not being being self-aware of how irritating the characters are.
Lenlo
Anime hipster is pretty accurate. His general treatment of the current state of anime is annoying, as is his obsession with moe. Maybe its cause I cant stand moe most of the time, but it bugs me.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Lenlo: Essentially my brothers view on digibro.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: I don't usually feel the need to correct errors in your reviews as the errors are generally un-important, but I think you meant to say apprentices rather than appearences in the Rakugo review, just bringing that up as it felt like kind of a throw off.
AidanAK47
Which is kinda like saying Madoka wasn't a magical girl deconstruction because Sailor Moon and Nanoha had dark elements too.
AidanAK47
Went and read the reddit comments on it and seems I was right on the money.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, He's basically a anime hipster. For example, I saw a thumbnail of his which had Saitama on it and below it "Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?" and I thought "Okay, he's going to go on about how OPM isn't subversive and then list a bunch of arbitrary examples in an attempt to redefine what is actually subversive"
Lenlo
I have lots of issues with Digibro. Dude has some good points, but other very horrible ones. Some issues he feels strongly about and gets kinda biased on imo.
Anonymous669202
acca looks visually interesting, and I personally really dig this kind of show, but it seems that it's definitely not for everyone
AidanAK47
Time to live up to my word. Four posts incoming.
AidanAK47
Man, Little witch Academia was so good. I disagree with the whole Digibro thing about being able to recognise a great show in it's first episode but watching this makes me think that this really is going to be something special.
AidanAK47
Alright, gonna put in effort today and have 3 or 4 first impressions posts done. That should knock out near half the season.
Kaiser Eoghan
Had a flip through handshakers. Garish is the word I'd use to describe it visually, it takes you out of the show.
Topgavin
ASuperMario From the first minute I can already tell it's by the same people that made K. Those colour filters and the extremely jarring/obvious city CGI is unmistakable.
SuperMario
Hand Shakers, literally makes my hands shaking. It's an abosolute mess. Highly recommended to check it out because it's so terrible it's great to watch
Vonter212
Yeah, and it's also a literal woman in refrigerator plot device, since that the thing that pushes the story forward.
Masky
I'd say that having to hide your sister's body in fridge would count as daaaaaaark and edgy, but when the body is wearing only underwear, and for some reason main character put metal things in fridge to keep body standing(I guess to not knock fridge open from inside?) I think it goes to "exploitation" you are talking about
Vonter212
@Masky - Did someone said doing dark things for drama? That's the bread and butter to get despair. Unless it's for the sake of perversion. Then it's just exploitation.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Masky: His other works dead tube and scumbag go further in the unhinged regard.
Masky
*relies on easy "let's do [x dark thing] for drama!" thing
Masky
Geez, Mayonaka no X Giten is fricking disturbing/disgusting ._. I'm pretty sure that writing relies on e, but I can't help but think mangaka is trying to make corpses sexy.
SuperMario
I found Onihei to be quite good, actually one of the most solid new episode I watched this new season. Guys, check them out
Vonter
I just hope it doesn't fall into the same misstep Kabaneri or Inuyasha or Bleach fall by making a villain so over the top that it crossed the line of not having a satisfying downfall.
Anonymous657941
@Vonter I think they just moved on. I lost interest rather quickly and I guess even the fans did that at some point, like with some other long-running series. There is much more new and more direct "fujo" stuff out there, many of them probably switched. Don't know what happens in the manga but maybe the story got worse or contained things some people didn't like.
Vonter
January will be loli dictator month (for me) :p. World Conquest Zvezda Plot, Youjo Senki: Saga of Tanya the Evil (new), Seraph of the End. For some reason I stumble into three curious series with little power hungry girls. If I can ask, why did Owari Seraph's hype died, I remember back it was mentioned more often. It still has the fujoshi fanart but still, I don't see people bringing it up.
SuperMario
@CATski: well, if you didn't like its first 3 episodes I dont think the rest gonna change your mind. Have you finished Erased then? How did you like it?
SuperMario
But I understand it's difficult to speak in front of camera, get some time to get used to it
SuperMario
@kaiser: I won't commend on poem as I'm terrible at it myself but younneed to work more on presentation Kaiser. Small little things like looking directly at the camera or say "thanks for listening" in the end can connect you to the audience better
Anonymous657071
Ok. I'll give the thing another chance. *clicks torrent* XD. CATski.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Topgavin: You might like centaur no nanami if you like demi-chan.
Kaiser Eoghan
Damn...repeated myself =<
Kaiser Eoghan
There are these things called slam sessions done in bars where people get up and read out stuff in front of a crowd and read stuff out. Actually watching rakugo made me think about practicing for that kind of thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: the video I did was of me reading out a short piece of writing I did, a poem. lol I uploaded it to the wrong youtube account too I just realized =P
[link src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypBZ2hBDBYs&t=11s
I"] was recording this from my mothers laptops inbuilt cam while reading off my desktop.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I think it's a good idea for you to try out reviewing movies/stuffs in youtube channel. I'll be very interesting to listen to them
SuperMario
@Topgavin: Agree. Demi-chan was so charming. Definately one of my favorite so far this new season
Topgavin
Demi-chan's first episode was good. Like, really really good. That blonde-haired girl was hilarious, the teacher-student relationship between the MC and the girls is really interesting and the social/practical problems the demi's face make it look like my favorite show so far.
CATski
Ah... ok. Is it really that good or it's just one of those "artsy" animes that tend to get overrated by their ardent fans? I didnt find the rakugo bit interesting.... probably the weakest aspect of the show for me.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Why did I read that chapter. Why did I do that to myself.
Kaiser Eoghan
Admittedly yes the premise is not for everyone, but if you stick with it, the flashback arc had some good character work in there.
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In the success of Madoka there have been plenty who have tried to capitalize on turning the Magical girl genre dark. Few have actually succeeded and while Magical Girl Raising Project doesn’t quite succeed, it is still a much more competent attempt than many others. The story is about a phone app which promises to […]

Yuri!!! on Ice (Fall 2016) Review – 83/100

“Can you hear my heartbeat? Tired of feeling never enough. I close my eyes and tell myself that my dreams will come true” That’s exactly what Yuri on Ice offers, a heart-pumping ride to the sport of figure skating. Yuri on Ice’s current success and mainstream breakout is something that no one could have guessed before it aired; but here […]

Strange Frame – Love & Sax (2012) Movie Review – 76/100

Hooray, I’m finally back to this section after a while. I originally plan to review a more in-focus groups of animated films, like Korean movies, anthology movies, female-directed films, etc but now I have a different plan. The days that I cover all these will come, I promise. Instead, this time I want to highlight […]

Thunderbolt Fantasy Review – 84/100

Sometimes you dread for the current state of anime: high school settings, cute girls, fan-service jokes, idol madness… that you wish for once to see something different, and out of nowhere an oddball like this just pop up: a wuxia puppetry show influenced by Taiwanese glove puppetry written by Gen Urobuchi. The sheer fact that […]