Posted by psgels on 7 April 2007 with categories: Anime Reviews, Jigoku Shoujo


Jigoku Shoujo Futakomori, the second season of Jigoku Shoujo, which features a website. If you access it at midnight, you can enter the name of someone you want to send to hell. The only price: you’ll get sent to hell after you die yourself. For the second season, Hajime and Tsugumi have buggered off, while the series continues with its usual formula, though with a very different focus.

The second season has two major focuses. The first is Ai’s dolls, Ichimoku Ren, Hone Onna and Wanyuudo. In the first half, they start to get personally involved in some of the cases, while the episodes that follow reveal their background, and how they actually met Ai in the first place. The second focus is people, getting more and more lenient to send someone to hell. At the start of the season, I actually expected the cases in the second season to be even more extreme than the first season, but I was quite surprised when the opposite happened. Quite an amount of cases are way lighter than most of the latter half of the first season.

The cases in the second season were definitely more character-based. While the first season tried to create cases as extreme as possible, or to illustrate Hajime’s and Tsugumi’s differences of opinion, the second season tried to delve a bit more into the main characters of the different cases. In about 50% of these episodes, this didn’t work, but the other 50% were amazing. There are some beautiful stories among them, all accompanied by some of the most amazing plot twists.

There actually isn’t a main storyline like Hajime and Tsugumi, until very late in the anime. Still, even though this storyline has been getting less development than you would expect, nearly each of the final episodes is a beauty, giving the second season a definite better ending than the first season had.

If you got through the first season, there’s no reason why you shouldn’t check out the second season. Heck, it’s probably even possible to continue with the second season, without having finished the first one, all you miss is a bit of development. Still, I have to say that even though the second season has been excellent, the repetition did kick in at some moments. The usual formula did get annoying at some of the worse episodes, though that didn’t stop the good ones for really working out.

The graphics were of the same high quality as the first season, but a definite improvement has been made in the music-department. The first season already featured great music, but the second season takes another step further, and delivers a truly memorable soundtrack, with some amazingly catchy tunes. Overall, though, I had more enjoyment out of the first season, but that’s only because of the repetition. The final episodes definitely make for an interesting watch, and, unlike the first season, there’s actually a lot to discuss about with others.

8 Responses

  1. Solaris says:

    I just ended watching this show. I really liked it far less than the previous season. The ending is forced and weird twisted.
    Why the hell had Hotaru to curse Takuma? Wasn’t that obvious that his brother disappearence was all the villains fault? Of course it’s all a twisted plot to tie Ai, Hotaru and Takuma in a situation similar to Ai’s sacrifice 400 years before. Infact, when Ai was (unwillingly) betrayed by his beloved Shibata, now Hotaru (weirdly) curses Takuma for no true reason at all. She even didn’t hate him. Or not? How could be Hotaru able to access Hell Site? After that, Ai empathized with the boy and stops the boat, then saves him again from death ending being sacrificed in the place of the boy. After all it was Ai’s destiny from the very start to be the scapegoat of the crowd’s greed. But this last time she seemed to have accepted her fate and finally dies peacefully. Poor little girl.
    Takuma’s curse, Ai’s redemption, Hotaru’s useless death, this is a bit to forcefully bond together and it’s not well made in the first place, thus i admit that i couldn’t figure out how the authors could do it differently from the way they did it.
    And at the very end the awful clichee of the worts american horror B movies style: a cell phone message that turns red with hell’ girls grant of a new revenge. Wasn’t it over? Oh well, let’s wait for Hell Girl 3! Bad, really bad…
    But one last question for you mr blogger: I read all of yur sinopsys and there’s the wish to see again the Hell Boy everywhere. Why did yo like theat char so bad? That episode wasn’t one of the best and that was clearly a character to forget. The boy with supernatural powers who chellenges Hell Girl was just out of the normal line of the show, that features ordinary stories of hate and pain. Good it didn’t show up anymore, IMHO.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Hmm, an attempt to answer your questions a bit:

    “Why the hell had Hotaru to curse Takuma? Wasn’t that obvious that his brother disappearence was all the villains fault?”

    She probably didn’t know the names of these villagers. She did know Takumi’s name, and due to the shock that she recieved, she clearly wasn’t able to think properly. All she wanted was for the miseries to end, and this made her think that getting rid of Takuma was the best way for this.

    “How could be Hotaru able to access Hell Site?”
    I think the amount of hate you have doesn’t really matter, I think that the previous episodes show that if you take hell hotline seriously enough, Ai will appear. Otherwise, the guy who sent his wife to hell in episode 44 would never have been able to access the site, as I don’t really think he hated his wife.

    “Hotaru’s useless death”
    She never died, she just ended up in coma after she tried to commit suicide.

    “And at the very end the awful clichee of the worts american horror B movies style”
    Personally, I liked this, but that’s just a matter of taste. I’m curious to see who has taken up the role of Jigoku Shoujo, now that Ai’s dead and the dolls have split up.

    “Why did yo like theat char so bad? That episode wasn’t one of the best and that was clearly a character to forget.”

    Well, he did provide a nice challenge to Ai, and episode twenty was in my opinion one of the most unique episodes in the series. Hell boy would really be able to add something worthwhile, in my opinion.

  3. Solaris says:

    Thank you for your answers Psgels and congratulations for this nice blog. I discovered it by “googling” in search of … ehm … .> … well… Akazukin reviews. I couldn’t find much about it, when suddenly i ran into your blog.
    I read here and there your comments about this or that anime (trying to jump the many spoilers)and agreed with many of your comments. I also watched Simoun based on your reviews. It was a nice show. Thank you.
    Of course there are many other questions about Jigoku Shoujo or Simoun that i would like to discuss, but this “comment page” in your blog permits limited exchange of opinions.
    If i’m not too unpolite, may i ask if is there any other forum/irc chan where we can talk freely about anime?

  4. psgels psgels says:

    Sure, I’m glad that my blog is being appreciated. I usually hang around the #animeblogger channel, in irc.irchighway.com (just give me an irc-pm if you want to talk to me. Unless I’m afk, I will respond), but I’m more often online with my msn-account: psgels(at)yahoo.com.

  5. Tania says:

    This serie really present great interest. I found it was as worth to be seen as the first season. The first doesn’t explain everything.It was a sad moment seeing Ai dying. It was her destiny from the beginning to sacrifice herself for all the crowd. But it does sound like a horror movie but one of the best. I don’t know what is my favorite but I think it’s the 16th. I liked Hone Onna’s compassion towards the main character. Moreover, Hone Onna is my favorite character IN THIS SERIE.

  6. Akiha says:

    This is definitely a good series to watch. But it hooked me more in the ending part because some of the episodes had stupid request for sending people to hell, which was unlike in the first season where most of the cases had valid or fairly valid reasons of wanting to send someone to hell. In the second season however, most cases were just plain ridiculous and idiotic. However the case may be, the last few episodes (probably the last five) of the second season made a different impression on me! I was thinking of dropping this season but when I continued on watching the last few episodes I was soo thankful that I didn’t! Although these last few episodes made me held back a lot of tears…It also made me hat Kikuri which I never thought I would..I just found her majorly creepy and not to mention annoying. But on the last 2 episode I seriously started to hate her. I also liked the 2nd season better because I fell in love with Takuma right away! I felt soo sorry for what happened to him… I mean I felt sorry for Tsugime (?) and Hajime-chan in the first season but at least they were together right? Takuma was all alone… Not to mention everyone was against him and was ready to assasinate him at any second he steped out of his own house. I really wasnt satisfied of the ending though, I mean I liked it but I liked it now sooo much that I wished there was a continuation the series which I dont think is possible anymore since our main character the jigoku shojo Ai Enma is now gone. Although there is now another jigoku shojo chances are that it isn’t Ai anymore seeing as she was willing to sacrifice her soul and her family’s for Takuma’s sake. So this basically leaves us with the result of either having another new Jigoku Shojo or it could now be Kikuri being the new Hell Girl..But if the animator doesnt get tired and decides on making another season then it may be a possible chance of seeing our Ai Enma back but what are the chances of that happening???
    But if there is another season though, I don’t think that either Kikuri or Ai would be the Hell Girl seeing as that Enma Ai is now gone back to hell with her family because she disobeyed her master and didnt complete her contract and Kikuri is apparenly the master demon right? Why would she help out or do her own deeds? So most likely she will find another person to do it for her. And who would be the other person?? Well its obvously going to be Tsugumi Shibata from the first season! I mean she still has contact with the hell girl and not to mention she still is able to see what Enma sees and the biggest reason would be that she still is a relative of ENMA AI…so I thknk she could probably be the next Jigoku shojou! Then again I am just wishing for a next season!! XD
    ~Akiha

  7. norlela says:

    wrere kikuri come from?

  8. hanani says:

    i just want to say,the hell girl is that realy exist?T.T

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Kaiser-Eoghan
I can recall enjoying a certain Jason Todd centered story called Batman:death in the family.
K-Off
Well, even when Damian does completely cross the line and become a villain, he's not even that interesting, i.e Injustice. Yup, Jason Todd already covered everything, but better.
AidanAK47
Problem is that he's an edge lord cocky piece of shit that just doesn't have enough likeable traits for this to be compelling. What really pushed him over the edge was mocking Nightwing over his parents deaths. That shit is not on.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I like the contrast that Batman refuses to cross the line and kill but Damian has crossed that line. As well as his potentail to become a villain. Tim and Dick didn't really have that though Jason sort of did. Damian's arc is more about teaching him the morality of a hero.
K-Off
@Aidan I'm not sure I like Damian's concept to begin with. The Bat-son dilemma's inherently addressed by the Robins for all intents and purposes. Damian just goes through the same motion, only difference being he's biologically related.
K-Off
Yup. Wonderwoman either doesn't need to have a love interest, or it needs to be with Steve Trevor, the two have a solid backstory that the movies unnecessarily removed.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, I don't mind the Taila X batman pairing. Makes more sense than Batman and Batgirl. But if there's one pairing pushed in the new movies that I just find wrong is the Superman X wonder woman. I just don't get that one.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I like the concept of Damian as a character. But it's executed so badly.
Anonymous1105941
Teen titans needs one more season to wrap up all the loose ends. Such as what happens to Slade, and Blackfires revenge. The creators clearly wanted to explore those plot lines but got cut short.
K-Off
Teen Titans hasn't aged very well, but one thing I still do like about it is how contained and local the setting and cast were for the first half of that show. When godly superpowers are involved, that appeals to me. Much of the same reason why I like Logan and Raimi's Spiderman so much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Very rarely watched teen titans when I was younger, I was vaguely interested in slade, stopped watching around when Terra appeared. I actively avoided comics where Damien appeared, never liked that Talia x Batman pairing much, I can only imagine how much worse it is to listen to Damien than read him.
K-Off
@Aidan, I like some aspects of those movies, but I'm not a big fan of the new continuity and art style in general...and yeah it doesn't help that Damian is irredeemably unlikable.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, There is also the DC animated Teen Titans movies like Teen Titans vs Justice Leage and Teen titans the Judus contract. Though it's not the same as the the TV series and Damian is such a dick.
K-Off
@Anon I don't think Teen Titans needs another season. The last season wasn't that good, but the movie ended the series on a high note and Young Justice pretty much rebooted everything, at least in terms of replacing people's want for a more mature DC cartoon about the Titans.
K-Off
Yeah it's become more of a hassel (for myself and my friends) to set aside time to go to a theater.
SuperMario
I guess in the end it all comes down to how easily it reaches the viewers. Give us a hard time and we don't give a damn to check the new movie/show out
SuperMario
... otherwise have to wait for a year, even more before it reaches Australia. But many companies will raise in the wake of Netflix and that will be where problems arise
SuperMario
This trend isn't happening within the anime industry, but it's happening in the movie world as well. In the past 2 years, Netflix starts to exclusively distribute many films, meaning that they won't have theatrical release, but straight to Video on Demand which caused quite a stir in the industry. Personally, I actually don't have much problem with it as now I will get a chance to see a film that
SuperMario
Dive!! , a series that will air next season on noitaminA slot will stream exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. Not that I'm eagerly looking forward to Dive, but that news again makes me frustrated. No one will watch it and then all the hypes it might have will die down eventually.
Anonymous1105394
Considering I didn't even expect a season 5 it's more than I could've evr wanted. Now if only if only Teen Titans could get the same chance.
Lenlo
Oh yeah, it turned out well. Didnt mean to say it didnt.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, Considering that the ratio of great to alright episodes is 8 to 2 I say that it turned out pretty well.
Lenlo
I have to say, the Samurai Jack season started stronger than it ended imo
AidanAK47
So this is how Samurai Jack ends. 16 years in the making. Honestly considering how much needed to get wrapped up I knew the ending would be a bit flawed. Really think Gen should have givin it one more episode to flesh out the ending and then it wouldn't feel so rushed. Overall despite it's flaws, it's a decent ending. Not prefect by any means but it will do the job.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Lol theres a surprise, seriously, Black Lagoons manga is updating again.
KTravlos
worst recap ever for me? Gangsta. That was a stupid recap episode. Really like a Public Announcement. Useless, stupid, and ruining atmosphere. Utter stupidity. There I got it our of me :p
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: Unfortunately too far behind in the sequel manga to catch up, I did take a look at THAT in the latest chapter though.
Masky
Huh, for some reason thought Tokyo Ghoul was under shonen when its seinen. Welp now that makes more sense, I was thinking story about cannibalism would be kinda absurd for shonen.
Spike
They serve no purpose except to fill airtime when production gets fucked up. They have 2 bad choices - run a recap or run an unfinished episode. Recap is generally the less dogshit choice. I've seen a few anime that ran the episodes with unfinished animations and still frames.... the backlash was about 100x what a recap is.
SuperMario
I'm about to say that to you as well Kaiser, maybe watch the recap and then continue on. The only thing I kind of take from the recap episode is the editting: how they chop off the fat of 6 episodes to still give you important developments. But as a way to catch up/ to reintroduce the series, it's freaking useless
Anonymous1104087
I don't think anyone should start from the recap episode. Unless there was a long hiatus, a recap in between episodes is unnecessary for new viewers and old
Lenlo
I mean, aside from whatever happens with Mugaro.
Lenlo
Next episode seems early, out of 24 episodes, for Nina to learn the Prince is Chris, yet that seems to be what the confrontation is leading towards, and then she freaks out and he learns shes the dragon. Becomes the conflict for the rest of the season?
Lenlo
Seems I was right, Azazel didnt predict that Nina might not be so easily riled up as she once was. To bad so sad Azazel, she has someone she loves now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
How useful are these recap episodes anyway/actually? Hypothetically lets say I was feeling lazy and decided to watch tsuki ga kirei starting from the recap episode.
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Lenlo
So long as there are consequences for how hes acting, then I am ok with it. I just dont want him to turn into some MC hero when hes acting like this.
AidanAK47
And in Re:Creators Sota is still being a goddamn pussy. Now that the exposition has gone down I am really starting to hate this kid.
SuperMario
It's the presentation that they differ. Ghost Hound focuses more on the atmosphere, so those details I mentioned before work for their benefits; whereas Sagrada Reset focus on plots (and confusing themes) so those stick out like sore thumb.
SuperMario
4 episodes into Ghost Hound so far. This show also reminds me a bit of Sagrada Reset this season- the way they both emotional distant, complex plots; keep viewers away at arm's length, and feature characters that have robotic facial expressions. Yet I enjoyed Ghost Hound so far and couldn't engage in Sagrada Reset at all.
SuperMario
@Spike: I was like... "tsuki ga kirei has a recap episode, so let's move on to Kado"... another recap. Tsuki ga kirei I'm not too worry as it confirmed that it'll have 12 episodes, but I'm not confident on Kado
SuperMario
@lenlo: in a sense you have to suffer it all alone. No worries thou as I intend to binge watch it when this season's over
Spike
Kado team crumbled under the pressure. Recap this week.
Lenlo
@SuperMario, im happy I dont have to compete with anyone to cover Berserk :P Got it all to myself to whine about, though its been ever so slowly improving.
Anonymous1100725
Ranka is ranka in any verse.
Anonymous1100725
Bahmut no spoilers. Ranka Lee. She just doesn't get it so everyone dies. As she stands around wondering.
SuperMario
In fact, Okja will play in the Sydney film festival next month, but seeing that it will stream in Netflix at the end of June I think it's best to wait until then
SuperMario
@Kaiser: great, I'm super hyped to watch Okja. Always enjoy Boon's movies. The critic's reviews from Cannes on Okja should come up soon I believe.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I watched Lain many times over as well but I'm sure that I didn't pick up everything. That show required multiple-viewing anyways.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Good news, netflix will stream Okja at the end of this June.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Its not often that I rewatch things, but years ago I've seen Lain at least three times, its also one of those few anime series where I felt to look up deeper analysis into it. It had a tremendous atmosphere and was ahead of its time.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: watching Ghost Hound made me want to revisit Serial Experiment Lain and give my episodic thoughts on that. Not gonna happen soon as I have my hand full right now but I swear I'll get to that one day.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I actually am planning to rewatch ghost hound soon, so I'll give you my new thoughts on it then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I always avoided Altair mostly based on it being a shounen action series. Kakeguruis premise involves gambling games, which I don't find interesting.
KTravlos
Kakegurui is on my list. I thought it would be crap (terrible setting etc), but the manga won me over. Princess Principal will be given a chance, so will Shoukouko no Altair.and perhaps Reflection. We shall see. Also Twilight Axis Gundam, as I love the manga team.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Recap episodes exist because of production troubles. Sometimes shit happens when you make an anime.
You are being a bit overally argressive but I do agree with the statement that Ntr is pathetic power fantasy. It really is.
Anonymous1099236
Ntr is a pathetic power fantasy for pathetic people
Anonymous1099236
Why the hell do recap episodes exist. Do they think we're that autistic
SuperMario
I honestly don't even what NTR is so I had to look it up. Interesting
SuperMario
Just a quick remaider that Tsuki ga Kirei has a recap episode this week. And yep, after watching this week's Sakura Quest I think I'm gonna stick with it
SuperMario
Flipping through the list, I'm also pretty know what I'm interested in, most of them are original anime, which is a plus
SuperMario
@Aidan: I'm still amazed that us never have to fight over covering shows, except for that one time with Flip Flappers. Always thought that crappy tastes are the same
Kaiser-Eoghan
*Those two comments were refering to NTR trap
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would really genuinely like to see some of these smut manga actually functionally use fanservice and romantic sex scenes rather than just cheap titilattion
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Poorly done ragey drama with bad comedy bits , I've reached a point with it where I no longer want my time wasted by it.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I admit to having passing interest in Princess Principal but not enough to fight you over it.
And Tsurezure Children is actually really really good. Really fluffy love stories with great comedy.
SuperMario
haha, even me who love slice-of-life won't fall for Tsurezure Children
SuperMario
@Aidan: Princess Principal
SuperMario
@Kaiser: The character designs on Centaur kind of weirds me out though
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Ugh...that one. Imagine a discount scums wish and you get the general idea.
AidanAK47
Mate if you are talking about Fate then let me say there is no way in hell I am not covering that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
NTR as the title of an anime? How shameless.
AidanAK47
@Mario,....Tsurezure Children?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised by centaur no nanami's manga. Actually cares about its setting and genuinely charming characters.
SuperMario
@Aidan: and this time there is 1 show we might both want to cover ^^
AidanAK47
I will have to start writing up that preview for this. I think it's pretty obvious what I am looking forward the most to watching.
AidanAK47
Links generally work with text if you place them at the end of it. Like so:
http://anichart.net/Summer-2017
Kaiser-Eoghan
[link src="http://anichart.net/Summer-2017
I....I"] might at least try the Vatican kiseki one and centaur no nanami...
AidanAK47
@Anon, Don't believe Clickbait. This is all based on a quote from the author thanking the animation studio and hoping for an opportunity to work with them in the future. What this confirms is that there is no plans for a season 3...yet. Could very well happen in the future. What this confirms is that it ain't happening any time soon.
Puran
Natsume is killing it this season.
Anonymous1094513
RIP Konosuba. Season 3 confirmed to not happen https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PvOmsKjcJU.
Lenlo
Im not sure what they are even saying.
Anonymous1092432
lmao Anon 250 got rekt
AidanAK47
Normally I would delete openly offensive posts but seeing as these don't make enough sense to be offensive I will give them a free pass.
AidanAK47
No idea who this Adnan guy is but if he watches gay porn then so what?
Anonymous1092250
adnan watches gay porn
Anonymous1092250
people who watch one piece are just watching gay porn
Anonymous1092250
one piece of shit
SuperMario
Hey, do you guys know about wanna cry ransomware? how's the heck that I just aware of its existence today? Scary@@
Lenlo
Haha will do, but im not gonna compete outside a local, maybe regional level, not anymore. I mostly want to get back into my old shape after 2 years of letting it lapse.
SuperMario
Oh, congrats. Used to play sport in competitive level myself (tennis), but now I feel like an old big fat geezer now haha. Keep me updated on your Fencing as it might motivate me to join sooner ^^
Lenlo
Dont even have to work out to do Fencing, you can just go for fun once a week. Im just trying to get back into competitive shape now that I have my degree
SuperMario
I'm not really big on workin out though; my housemate just keeps asking to join gyming but I always back out, haha. Although I'm okay with running and I'm doing yoga like 4 times a week
Lenlo
Cool. And definitely, give Fencing a try, find your local gym.
SuperMario
When you feel sore it just means it's working, so all good haha. I'm still pretty much interested in try Fencing one day btw. About Uchouten, it's about a bunch of tanuki in human shape wander around and having fun (I'm not serious btw). I think the forst episode of the first season can tell you exactly the tone of the show, so you can watch that episode to see if it's your thing
Lenlo
I both love and hate the post-workout aches. Its what I get for trying to get back into Fencing shape.

Whats Uchouten about?
SuperMario
My love is blind, Kaiser. When I love a show I tend to go overboard with it ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
I’d forgotten how fun these characters are, although some of the novelty, charm, humour has worn off, it is still there and I’m beginning to re-remember while watching.
I do hope though that they’ll do more with Kaisei and Bonten however.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Annnnd thank you Mario again for your reviews tempting me to watch a show.
I was hesitant sitting down to watch season 2 of Uchouten Kazoku because it had been so long since I saw the original.
I caught up, Nidaime and Tenyama got my attention most, standout scenes were the shogi match and the second half of episode inside the painting, the bits between Yaichiro and that girl.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Honestly I could never do the sleeping on the back thing, thats largely because I heard that it increases the risk of sleep paralysis/apnea.
SuperMario
WHY PROTECTING THEM THEN?
SuperMario
You know that human is the only mammal/race that sleep on their back?
KTravlos
hahaha
Lenlo
Is his wall being built with Mexicans? Are they inside the wall, AoT style?
Kaiser-Eoghan
MAKE TITAN GREAT AGAIN =<
Yes that is true aim of Donald Trump's wall, he's actually in the know, trying to keep out Titans.
AidanAK47
WE SHALL KILL ALL OF THE ANONS.
....Wheres my 3D gear?
KTravlos
they all are anonymous and thus enemies of the human race :p
AidanAK47
@KTravlos, Just to clarify but the guy who wrote " idk wtf " and the guy writing the paragraphs are clearly two different people.
KTravlos
I also dislike anonimity on the net. If you are not in danger of being killed or purged because of your name, you should offer it. It is the right thing to do.
KTravlos
done by a lesser director. Simply put and to end it on my part: Exaggeration is the core of art. You can exaggerate the mundane , but exaggeration it still is.
KTravlos
They focus on it and make it the centerpiece. All motion picture does this, and anime does this very well in my humble opinion. There are things that are "easier" to do in live action. But make no mistake, it all comes down to the director and his team. Despite the fact that Monster is very grounded , some of its most evocative scenes would not work if done live action. Or would had not worked if
KTravlos
Look I was sharp because I do not like the whole idk etf culture thing. Should tell you my age.

What I meant with my words can be made more accessible with this analogy. Do you find yourself moved by paintings? Photos? None of this give the immediacy of the whole picture a moving image gives. And yet we are moved by them. This is because they take a element of reality and exaggerate it....
Anonymous1091057
Anyways, I should stop lol. I just ranted like less than 24 hours ago. Gotta go to uni soon anyways
Anonymous1091057
Whoops, I meant to say, ... or even stuff like Baccano could work in western live action.
Anonymous1091057
Also, I feel like shows that have some western context already infused in them, like most sports shows (i.e. Kuroko no Basket for example), or even stuff like Baccano, but once again it'd be hard to pull of the craziness and coolness of the shows, because a lot of it comes from the shows animation and style.
Anonymous1091057
But also, those shows might just be too weird for western live action.
Anonymous1091057
I don't see shows like One Piece or JJBA for example working in western live action well, at least for a long time till the CGI becomes much, much better so to not to completely destroy our suspension of disbelief.
Anonymous1091057
Those sort of works have a cross-potential for working both in anime and western live action. Then I feel slowly you can start littering in some of the more sci-fi esque ones like Steins;gate, or supernatural horror ones like Death Note.
Anonymous1091057
That's why I feel like the best hope for adapting anime into live action movies and TV shows (TV probably would be better for adapting anime tho), is to start with the more grounded, like Monster or even something like LoGH which has a sci-fi element but still maintains a sort of realism.
Anonymous1091057
There are good western movies and TV shows that are strange, but not bizarre; weird, but not the same kind of say JJBA.
Anonymous1091057
I feel like this difference between the 2 mediums makes it hard to adapt anime into live action, particularly western movies. Most anime are closer to the extreme of creative and zany than the extreme of grounded which movies are better at pulling off.
Anonymous1091057
Or another example is Steins;gate. No other medium could have a plot about bananas, time machines, cell phones, world war 3, and make it work pretty well everything said and done.
Anonymous1091057
Or how in the world could JoJo's Bizarre Adventure ever work out, with its complete craziness, except in anime. I know they're making a movie from the first arc of DiU, but they inevitably have to strip away some of the weirdness that makes the series great.
Anonymous1091057
But then on the other hand, I'm not the biggest fan of modern western superhero shows, particularly because I feel like it's better suited to anime. I'll take One Piece, FMA, or Hunter x Hunter (just to name a few) over 90% of superhero movies today.
Anonymous1091057
*movies aren't a great example of this as a whole, there's a scene from the last Hobbit movie which kinda shows how live action captures the tiny tics and "boringness" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIaJb6RY0TQ
Anonymous1091057
Or like, just the way a character breathes; while the movies aren
Anonymous1091057
I feel live action is better able to capture the minute, "boring", or slow parts of life. For example you don't see too many slow shots in the animated medium (maybe movies being an exception), but they're common in live action (not as much in modern movies, but still).
Anonymous1091057
I agree its a matter of personal preference, and I didn't mean to imply that I thought anime was inferior to TV or vice-versa, but just that they offer different types of experiences. I feel anime excels at the imaginative, crazy, and bizarre, while live action succeeds at the grounded, mundane, and "boringness" of living.
KTravlos
I do not care if you do not know what I am talking about. There we are.
Anonymous1091060
@travlos idk wtf you're talking about
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm open to realistic stories and sad ones also but above all I'm more interested in imagination.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Given that Bam isn't here, can I rely on you to review Blame! this weekend? Its out on netflix on Saturday.
KTravlos
Animation has the ability to distill emotions to there core. It is why some would say it exaggerates (And there are shows that do so), but what it really does is provide the "core" of emotions. Live action can do this, but requires great actors, or good buildup.
AidanAK47
Oh god the typos in that rant. For some reason my spellcheck has ceased to work on this thing.
AidanAK47
For a cliff notes, TV and Anime are not inferior to one another. Both have plus's and minus's to them and how invested one gets depends on personal preference
AidanAK47
@Anon2, Not even close to my point.
Anonymous1090816
Animation is more realistic 'cuz its fully imaginary. Ya dig?
AidanAK47
Honestly when it comes to me, the closer a show resembles reality, the less interest I have in it. Hence why I am not watching Tsuki ga Kirei this season.
AidanAK47
When you get down to it this is pretty much a matter of personal perference. There are those who cannot connect with animation as strongly because it's animated. Likewise there are those that connect stronger because it's animated. One cannot nessaily be deemed better than the other. both have their pros and cons.
AidanAK47
Animation I feel allows for more room to bend the rules. A story like dragonball is utterly ridiclous in live action but it works within art. There are emotional high points in anime which would just fall completly flat in a live action adaption. It's not really fair to deem those things as inferior because it's not realistic. It can hit those high notes because it isn't realistic.
AidanAK47
One thing you mention is the unnatural exgrattion of emotion or experences and I do argee with that. There is a layer of artificiality to anime interactions. However this exists in TV shows as well. One thing that always bugged me about TV shows that I have seen is the dialogue. i always felt that people don't talk natural in these shows, all there lines are focused on being snappy and memorable.
AidanAK47
There is also a level of ambigity within "Nauce" as it can be interpted as many thing by the watcher. For one it could be just people looking too much into what is essentailly "Stare blankly". It's funny you mention Naoki as he does this exact same thing. Character says something, other character stare intently. Actually the diagolue in his stories is similer to that of tv drama's as well.
AidanAK47
While animated emotion can be considered more simplistic than that of live action, i would consider this a strength rather than a weakness. Anime characters can express emotion more clearly than that of live action actors. The naunce of a anime character is easy to notice because they can get the exact reaction needed for a scene. Meanwhile to do the same in live action takes one hell of an actor
AidanAK47
@Anon, On this shoutbox you an rant away and let me start by saying that i disargee. I will admit that there are certain things that live action Tv shows can do that Anime simply cannot but I disargee with the notion that animation cannot connect to the human experence. If anything I would argue that anime can even exceed it.
Kaiser
I will say this though about live action films is that i find that its easier to create a more successful atmosphere through them, making you forget your watching fiction.
Kaiser
Urasawa can be uneven, his work can jump between maddeningly slow and nail biting suspense sometimes in the same series.
Kaiser
I stuck with breaking bad , The bborgias and eventually hannibal all the way through. Always sunny is still funny .
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