Posted by psgels on 27 June 2007 with categories: Anime Reviews, Death Note

Death Note: Yagami Light finds himself a notebook, dropped by a Shinigami: the Death Note. If you write down the name of a person in this Death Note, he’ll die, no matter what. With this new Death Note, Light begins to create a perfect world, killing off all criminals. Then, a detective who goes by the name of “L” gets assigned to catch him.

Let me first state that Death Note is unique amongst shounen-anime. There are nearly no fights, and nearly the entire anime consists out of people planning and plotting to outsmart each other. Through the course of the anime, Light makes optimal use of the Death Note, and he comes up with a number of really smart and careful plans.

Because of this, the main good points of Death Note, especially in the beginning, are its surprises. Some plot twists are ingeniously incorporated in the storyline, and they make sure for maximum shock-value. This makes sure for a number of really intense episodes, even with the lack of fighting or other forms of physical action.

The graphics and music only contribute to this. The art that is used in Death Note is unique, and incredibly detailed. The animators made some really creative “action”-scenes, which you won’t be seeing in any other anime, and they really makes sure that these scenes are as creepy as they can get. The music consists out of a number of very addictive choir-songs, which fit the mood perfectly.

Still, despite the awesome climaxes, this series didn’t make it in the 90/100-range for a reason, as it’s got quite a few humps and bumps along the way. The most obvious one is the middle part of the series. Death Note has an excellent beginning, and an awesome ending, but the Yotsuba-arc in the middle was so bad that it made me almost lose my faith in the series. The climaxes stop being interesting, and the creators turn the series in some kind of joke of itself. Luckily, the anime picks up again with episode 24, and delivers an awesome climax, but the thorn remains. The beginning is also filled with a couple of nasty coincidences, for example Light’s father being the police-officer who is in charge of catching Light.

There are also a number of rather annoying characters in this anime. I’m referring to the ones that mainly exist for comic relief like Misa and Matsuda. They usually have no purpose at all, and they whine too much to really become interesting. The characters that are introduced later in the series also need a lot of episodes to get enough development to stop getting annoying. There are also quite an amount of people that lack a bit of background. To give one example, we learn just as much about Aizawa’s (a minor character) background as L’s (a major character) background, and believe me, that isn’t much. There’s also a time-leap somewhere in the middle of the series that just lacks proper development as well, with the result that it makes no sense in lots of areas.

Still, despite this, there are a lot of good characters with enough background to become interesting. Light himself is a fascinating person, and it’s interesting to see how he develops and eventually declines. Some temporary and side-characters also turned out really touching, and L, despite his lack of background is well developed and turns into a really enjoyable character.

Overall, it’s not the best anime out there, but it’s definitely worth a watch. It has awesome climaxes, but the fairly low rating comes from the fact that it just has too many areas that could have been improved.

32 Responses

  1. Karry says:

    “Let me first state that Death Note is unique amongst shounen-anime.”

    Maybe because it is not a shounen in the first place ?

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Shounen-jump = shounen for me. :P

  3. dontaskshadow says:

    oh psgels, I would hold off or take back on everything you’ve said, even your 84 rating.

    Reason: simple.

  4. psgels psgels says:

    Whoa, I didn’t see that one coming. Now that I’ve posted it anyway, I’ll keep this review up for now, and I’ll update it accordingly when I’ve seen that special.

  5. Victor says:

    It was a great anime. The only bump for me was the middle part. Hope I enjoy the animes you rate higher than 85 as much as I enjoyed this one. What is a shounen-anime?

  6. Kite says:

    Maybe they will even show the place Light went to after his death! That’d be awesome! xD

  7. psgels psgels says:

    Victor: A shounen-anime is an anime that is aimed at boys. It’s usually centred around the “confrontation” between different parties. Most of the time, these “confrontations” are overblown fights (Naruto, Bleach, etc), in Death Note, they are plans.

  8. Luna says:

    I LVOE YOU!!! KIRA !!

  9. gagan_goku says:

    Kira rocks
    I loved the episodes in the middle too . L is the cutest.
    And misa is nice too . dont call her unimportant. she might be a comic relief (she is funny)

  10. Eonir says:

    Ugh…. I think they screwed up almost everything after L’s death. A huge missile hidden under a fake desert? And Google Earth noticed nothing during the construction?

    Near knowing everything, Mello being a top figure in the Mafia? Ridiculous. So many things were ridiculous, I can’t count them all.

    Light, as a genius with such a powerful tool could easily destroy every opponent. Controlling anyone’s actions gives you more control than you think. First episodes were wonderful. You mentioned that Light is the only shounen character that declines instead of growing. Well, I have nothing against that. But only when it’s not screwed up. Near was the character that was artificially powered up. Like Songoku throwing his opponents into the heart of the sun. But on a different kind of level.

    I think it was not Light’s mental power that was weakening – it was the scriptwriter’s/mangaka’s.

    1/3 of the series was worthless. It could as well end when it was supposed to.

  11. Venus Vega Is... says:

    although i agree some of the latter
    plot twists were… inane,
    the spirit in which Death Note
    carries itself && the intellectual
    game of cat && mouse played
    between L && Light is something
    so stimulating. Alot of the anime
    is intense && the dialogue extremely
    you at least gave Baccano! a 93…
    i’m sure Dath Note warrants at least
    a 90 for being such an intelligent,
    intense, && extremely well drawn anime.
    your blog tho

  12. psgels psgels says:

    Venus: Death Note had indeed some great moments, but at the same time there were enough lesser points, which explains the relatively low rating. Baccano didn’t have any of these in my view, hence the high rating.

  13. sara says:

    yep I agree with annoying ones though I guess matsuda was worth it at at the end since he shot light, that was awesome. I think you described how I feel about it so well and I don’t people who drop this show at 17 ,27 etc… and the 2nd half is just like ughhh

    Oh and I HATE shonen anime but I liked this one a lot since it didn’t shonen-y on me, ~~~

  14. Kira Supporter says:

    Death Note…BEST Anime,Story,Movie,Idea…Everything!
    The Smartest! And The Greatest!
    And I was with Kira all the way! And STILL!


  15. Serenade says:

    Personally, I think your rating of Death Note is way too low.

    This really is a fundamentally unique anime. Like you’ve said, it’s amazing how it breaks away from fighting/battle tradition (which is the very core of shounen anime), yet maintains an insurmountably compelling, suspenseful, and exciting plot.

    Of course, there are flaws as well. One example may be a lack of background-probing for the central characters, like L. However, I also see this as a point of uniqueness. Instead of relying on the sob stories of each character’s past in order to develop their personalities, the show simply develops them through their thoughts/actions while moving the plot along. Considering the actual storyline of Death Note (a Kira-quest for world domination), the backstories of the characters are irrelevant. Also, with the display of so many different characters — Misa (model/bimbo), L (nobody/genius), Light (perfect student/crazy mastermind) — I think that one of the minor themes of the anime is that it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from; it’s about what you can accomplish with what you’ve got, here and now.

    Also: minor characters. One thing I like about Death Note is its ability to twist minor characters into major players. Naomi Misora, who started out as just “that FBI guy’s fiancee” turned out to be a real threat-potential to Light. Likewise, although Matsuda was introduced as a moron (it pains me to say this; I think Matsuda’s an adorable idiot), in the end, /he/ is the task force member that takes down Kira. Because, hey, I didn’t see Near whip out a gun and empty some lead into Yagami Junior. (Though I’d love to see that. xD) Oh, and Ryuk. I believe that Ryuk was kept low-profile throughout most of the second half so that his sudden role at the end would come as more of a shock; we all pretty much dismissed his ramblings near the beginning of the series, so it’s a surprise when Ryuk comes back for the kill. All in all, even the minor (perhaps annoying) characters have their time in the limelight, which keeps them forever important to the show.

    …But, okay, I agree that the Yotsuba arc was a letdown. xD

    However. I still maintain that Death Note is one of the most suspenseful and compelling anime I’ve ever seen. Rating-wise, I think it deserves a place in the 90’s, at least. There /are/ flaws, but the sheer wow-ness of the anime and its periodic revivals of suspense outweigh the flaws undoubtedly.

  16. Serenade says:

    Whoo… gigantic post. xD

  17. JJ says:

    Well….there are other suspensful anime that utilize their storylines much better than Death Note.

    Man when I got to the Yotsuba storyline, I couldn’t believe what I was seeing….was that in the manga?

    And plus, the show loses steam after Misa shows up.

    84/100 is right….I would give it an 80/100.

  18. Sun says:

    This is the only anime i watched without skipping any frames (normally i use 1.5x) and i’ve watched alot of animes too.
    Here’s a partical list of them
    – Karin
    – Shakugan no SHana
    – Zero no Tsukaima
    – Otome wa Boku ni Koishiteru
    – Clannad
    – Kanon
    – Naruto
    – Bleach
    – Higurashi no Naku koro ni (ok~ i didn’t sky any in this one as well)
    – Inukami
    – Spice and wolf
    – Kogepan
    – La Corda d’Oro
    – Nagasarete Airantou
    – Kaze no Stigma
    – Elemental Gelade
    – Hatenkou Yuugi
    – Vampire Knight
    – Prism Ark
    – Da Capo
    – Hayate the Combat Bulter
    – Elfen Lied
    – Lucky Star
    – Sola
    – HellSing
    – Full Metal Alchemist
    – ef ~ a tale of memories ~
    – Darker than Black (this one seems similar to death note to me for some reason)
    – The melancholy of of Haruhi Suzumiya
    Also a hell lot more of manga
    (yes i do have a lot of free time)

  19. Sun says:

    Sorry in the last post ( Higurashi no Naku koro ni (ok~ i didn’t sky any in this one as well)) it is meant to be Skip not sky

  20. leslie says:

    I’ve just started to watch this series so I guess I am still missing some critic review, however, I do enjoy the plot and the character is amazing, plus the animation is very well done. In my view the anime has a very unique way of showing us whats happening out there…different reality or not, monster or not, i guess Light only wants to make it right lol
    Yes I know I am insane lol
    Anyways still haven’t gotten to the dreadful middle part that u refer to as being boring, but I will keep u posted with my opinion…
    Meanwhile I wish for no spoilers!!

  21. Bebop56210 says:

    Ok so I just now finished watching this series, and to be honest I didn’t even like it, nor did I want to watch it at all, but I got curious and I’m glad I did… I like most of the story, but I was hoping L didn’t die, but owell, hell he died even sooner than I thought… as for Light… I hate him… lol I hate those smug characters like that and I thought he was going to win at the end, thank god he didn’t I would’ve went nuts… still would’ve liked L to beat him but hey what can I do… I also like how he breaks down at the end and can’t think of a way out… so he turns into that ignorant child like L said KIRA was… so all in all I was happy with the ending…

  22. DuhMightyBeanz says:

    I find Death Note’s beginning to be extremely awesome…If not one of the best any anime creator could make.

    Someway later,my interest started fading away.It was rather odd in the sense that the series was beginning to repeat itself in the very essence of the beginning,Light VS L.Of course,L lost(duh)but somehow,Light just lost his brilliance in the later episodes.Bugging a place where he would hold his interrogation with only sound and no video?That’s way too obvious for any average person to figure out SOMETHING must have been done within the time frame.

    I would probably have rated it about 70ish.

  23. Jack says:

    So, I watched the first episode of Death Note. I know it’s not fair to judge a series based on the first episode, which is why I want to ask here before I decide whether to drop the series or not.

    First, I want to say this. I really really hate the sentiment that “the world is rotting.” I really hate it. Not only do I completely disagree with the sentiment, but I can’t stand people that feel the same way. I similarly hate the sentiment that “there are people that this world would be better off without.” The reason is that these sentiments come from people who believe they are the sole aribitrator of justice; that justice and morality are black and white. It expresses a shallow worldview that I cannot abide by. For example, I dislike the movie Boondock Saints on three levels: one because it’s a Tarantino wannabe movie that fails so epically it’s hard to see how the two are related, two because it’s completely uninteresting, and three because of the “kill the scum” sentiment espoused by the film.

    Now, given my opinion on the subject matter (whether you agree or not), should I continue watching the series, or should I move on to a different series? I’m pretty busy, so I don’t want to waste time on a series that so far seems like I will not enjoy.

  24. psgels psgels says:

    The interesting thing is that your opinion quite matches the opinion of the antagonist during the first half of the series. Death Note isn’t a series that claims to be right, but rather thought-provoking.

    If you had plenty of time, then I’d suggest it. But if you are a busy person, then I do admit that there are a lot of series that deserve to be watched first.

  25. cristine837 says:

    Show makes me relieved all the time so i use to watch Death Note when i have a time after my college work has done.It gave me so much relaxation and also made me happy.

  26. Me says:

    Death Note was much too long. The premise is relatively weak, but the characters were interesting. When he lost his memory, it became stale.

  27. Mario-Kun says:

    Hiiiiii …… The end I would like to me is this living ligth dominate the world because it is the master. What becomes of ligth shinigami is totally inconsistent and impossible, so if you were human memories erased, if not, do not explain much laziness and impartiality of the other shinigami,
    The end of this anime very good but not worth what was the anime, by the end according to my opinion should stay alive L q and was one of the most important characters of the anime, but to give the fine that was given leave us with a bit of mystery and questions about what happened really to L. .. finally one of the best animes though a bit short ….


  28. Topaz says:

    Just sayin, if you like the anime, read the manga. It is sooooo much better it will blow your mind! [SPOILER: THIS IS ALL MIKAMI’S FAULT!!!!]

  29. Dink says:

    Loved this anime, really made me think. Great detail was payed to the plot and although it may well have been a little too fluffed out i think that some of that fluff was necessary to give the view an idea of the intelligence behind Kira and L such as the part at the beggining where he rigs up this complex sequecnce to destroy the deathnote in his drawer should anyone go searching for it. Not essential but extra bits like that certainly gave the overall anime a bit more depth. Also the live action versions are awesome and stuck quite well to the anime guide lines

  30. Pharellla says:

    Death note is the only anime i have seen that you dont have to wait till episode 8 for it to get good! You get hooked from the start which hasnt happened with any other anime for me ,,even Code Geass,,so id say 84 is a very low rating and yes L shouldnt have died so soon,,and it got slow for a bit but you cant deny those intriguing moments of suspense and even the build up of the final episodes were intriguing! DeathNote is really like no other,,has it flaws but is definitely an a plus!!!

  31. Andy says:

    Hey could you recommend me an Anime similar to Death Note (or Code:Geass)? I am aware that both of these have some problems in their storytelling especially in their 2nd seasons but from the general premise and style I really enjoyed both of these shows.

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Well, tbh up to where I've seen there's not much explicit yaoi in yuri on ice, only a lot of fujoshi fuel.
@Kaiser. thanks for the torrent. Gonna blaze through this today.
@Topgavin, as someone who watches a metric ton of anime I am rather surprised at that estimate that 90% of it contains Yuri.
My god those gay scenes in Yuri on Ice are hard to watch for me. Wonder if this is how it feels to be a girl watching 90% of normal anime nowadays.
okay, Flip Flappers episodic review was up. This is my lengthiest weekly review so far and I still feel I missed a lot of points. Damn you Flip Flappers
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You have seen the light, not needing to know everything thats happening to enjoy something ^_^
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I've given some consideration to reviewing that oujia film followup.
Whether you see one or the other is entirely up to your preferences, so it makes no difference to me which is worse. I have gotten very tired of generic character types, but again that's just because of the things I decide to regularly follow.
I will say if it must come down to either unnatural dialogue or unnatural character types, at leas the character type is speaking their own words and not the words of the script writer.
Or was that a black and white fallacy? Maybe it was a little of both.
@Realjustified, K-Off wasn't agreeing with me. That's a Moving the Goal Posts logical Fallacy but well I will answer regardless. Honestly it's preferable to have neither. The big mistake you are making here is that you are putting down a condiction that a show must have one or the other. But both cartoons and anime can have both. I just think it's a lot more prominent in cartoons than anime.
Like, having read hundreds of harem manga over the years, a majority of the ultimate love interest always happens to be the first girl the protagonist meets.
Wait wait wait wait. Aidan and K-Off. I get that dialogue in cartoon can seem like it was written by a script writer, but at the same time, lots of anime have characters whose sole purpose is entirely scripted. The whole spectrum of "deres" and everything. What do you think is worse? Unnatural dialogue, or unnatural character types?
You guys should really go fuck yourself, it's a solution and it's nothing short of great!
You guys should really watch the first 4 episodes of Bungo, it's a prequel and it was nothing short of great!
omg!! I just realized To be Hero was one of the show that I reviewed its 1st episode back in Chinese Animation post. I watched raw then though
forgive me if I'm a bit too overwhelmed by Flip Flappers... For this episode alone I took like 25 screenshots...trying to write a review now...
I have absolutely no idea what is going on in Flip Flappers plot. And yet for some reason I am OK with that.
Anyone out there that's a fan of crude humor should go watch ep.3 of To Be Hero. Certinately stepped it up a notch from the last two humor-wise.
One downside I can think of already is that I'm bound to lose or break one of the detachable controllers. The cost for those pieces is what I'm most interested in.
Nintendo Switch hmm? Honestly it looks too good to be true. I expect some major downsides to this thing.
I like cartoons, don't get me wrong. Certainly good for a change of pace. But there is something about the way they are written that I find rather distracting.
I don't know, maybe if I said it's like the difference from how characters talk in movie vs how characters talk in a sitcom?
@K-Off, I said one liner's or jokes. Not one liner jokes. It's hard to explain. Basically when I hear a conversation in anime even if it is based in stereotypes, it at least feels like a conversation that's being had in the moment. In cartoons however there is a layer of artificiality and it feels like characters know what a person is going to say and has a response prepared.
That's probably why some of my favorite anime in recent years haven't been very heavy on character archetypes, or were either parodies of it.
Comedic dialogue with anime in recent years have leaned too much on the idea of playing off character archetypes. The collected character vs the energetic character, for one. I'd like to see more variety. Some more word play, hyperbolic humor, body humor, etc etc.
@Aidan Not quite sure what you mean by that, because it's certainly not even a majority of cartoons that rely on cheap one liner jokes. I suppose it's entirely up to taste, but I can appreciate the energy in cartoons like Steven Universe or Regular Show when compared to the increasingly repetitive dialogue found in some recent anime.
@Topgavin: I just read that review and his main reason being Shelter is pretentious. oh well! Can't never please anyone.
Thought I'd check out the reviews for Shelter on MAl and the top review is a 1/10. Apparently because it's a cute girl we sympathise with her more, which is bad because reasons. I mean.. what? MAL never ceases to amaze me
@Mario, no. It's more that the dialogue keeps trying to push out one liners or jokes regardless of whose talking.
@Aidan: maybe because they spoke in your native language do you can feel that it's artificial, ya know? I know I have the same problem with Vietnamese drama/ cartoon and maybe Japanese people have that same issues with anime?
By which I mean, the way characters talk in cartoons is very...artificial. Like you can tell that the dialgoue was clearly written beforehand and it never really sounds natural. At least to me.
@Anon, I wouldn't. The writing and structure are too cartoon. What with the episodic nature and dialogue that generally pushes for a comedic tone.
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Flanagan also directed absentia which I haven't seen yet but I think someone I came across of 4chan linked it to being lovecraftian?
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Oculus was a film of two halves for me. Hush was a pretty standard home invasion thriller, making the victim deaf was an interesting twist but not as unique as you might think, still suspenseful though.
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I never saw the first oujia film. Though Mike Flanagan who did the sequel, he's never made a bad movie but he's never really made a great one either.
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I stick to the firm belief that cartoons and anime, visually should do and be their own thing. I'll prefer a western artstyle for cartoons rather than one pretending to look like anime style.
But this is a good topic and I'm sure everyone has their own opinions so I'm looking to hear some more arguments
@anon352392: no they aren't. For me not because of where their production based, nor their intended audience, but rather their styles, both visually and storytelling-ly, are different
Anime,” they assert, is not a “style” of illustration or animation.
That's where I differ to those guys. For me, anime is a style. In that sense, I consider RWBY, and Canadian-produced short Flutter as an anime. Thunderbolt Fantasy is not and anime-influence shows/movies that are intented for Western audience like AniMatrix or Afro Samurai are anime
@Anon nah they wouldn't be because they aren't made by a japanese producer for the japanese market. Quality isn't the question, production is
NX and Red Dead Redemption 2 trailers tomorrow.
They are good series and i honestly like them alot more than most anime series, would their quality make them anime?
What about cartoons like Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces Of Evil?
In other news a sequel to an absolutely terrible horror movie called Ouija is out and it's...actually pretty good? Wondering if critics were paid off or it is legit good. Well it did have the guy who was behind Oculus and that was a pretty good movie.
Simplify the term down enough and anime is literally anything animated but the whole point of the term is to distinguish it. For to call Spongebob an anime makes me want to projectile vomit. Point is this, you say you watched a cartoon, people think Tom and jerry, Scooby doo etc. You say you watched an anime, people think Cowboy bebop, Attack on titan, etc. Whole point of the term.
For example, I don't consider Avatar or RWBY to be anime for while they use anime style, the writing is fundamentally structured like an American cartoon. Through I would consider Bloodivores an anime even though it was made by a Chinese animation company, making it technically a Chinese cartoon.
As far as what is and isn't anime I honestly think of the term as a means of distinguishing it from cartoon which gives the impression of being for children. It's like Graphic novel is to comic book. Though techically graphic novels are issues of comics bound in book form, the term Graphic novel is often used to distinguish works that go above superhero comics and whatnot.
Basically I think it was due to Porter Robinsons involvement that they didn't consider it anime.
@Aidan: Did the mods give any concrete reasons why they didn't consider it an anime?
@Mario, It wasn't the community that had the problem. It was the mods. The community made it pretty clear that they considered it anime.
So despite the art style is obviously anime, the character speaks in Japanese, and the production was animated by A1 Studios, it's not an anime? Sometimes I feel sad that the anime community keeps limiting themselves with such fixed minds.
I saw it yesterday and yes it was good. For a 5-minute story, they don't make it too overwhelme with details, and still pack an emotional punch. Moreover it elevates the song. Good stuffs.
Shelter was quite good though. It works well and the animation was beautiful. Song is not bad either. It's got a nice emotional punch to it though it's a bit simple a story.
Well anyway I only saw all this because I checked out the video for the first time and wanted to see how others thought of it with a quick scan through reddit. And I get this shitshow instead.
Playing the victim is the one really pisses off the internet. For refusing to admit you f*cked up only encourages people to shove how you f*cked up into your face. That's what really grinds peoples gears.
Yep, seen that too. The mods even put up another tread about the video and tried to guilt trip people by saying they got death threats. Look, internet rules 101. If you said or did something stupid admit to it and just walk away. Do not try to deflect blame or play the victim, that only adds fuel to the fire.
@Aidan oh yeah saw that live lol. Porter himself even commented on twitter about it, gotta love internet drama
So did anyone happen to catch the big old shitstorm of that Shelter music music when a mod of the Anime subreddit decided it wasn't "Anime" enough and removed the discussion post about it? Oh internet drama...what silly nonsense.
Finally caught up with JoJo. Diamond is Unbreakable has turned out to be much better than Stardust Crusaders. Should have waited for the season to finish through as I really loved marathoning it.
I had a feeling that might be the case considering the source materail for luger.
@Mario Oh I watched that, certinately worth it. Packed more story that some 12-episode shows do nowadays and gorgeous animation.
and I will check out "Shelter" music video to see what all the fuss is about
*this weekend to be exact.
Sounds like Luger Code 1951 is an OVA that will air next week, the same air date with "my" Zaregoto OVA.
@Mario: doesn't sound real at all to me lol
@Mario, I might be able to manage. If all else fails I can talk about the past of these historical figures.
While I don't mind watchinng Drifters, I swaer if I had to cover that show, I couldn't come up with anything to say.
Do you guys know what language the fairies speak in Drifters? It does sound like a genuine language
@topgavin: humanity has declined is a great show. It has good writing and dark, witty sense of humor. I could talk about it in length but psgels pretty much covered it all. He was really impressed by that show however.
That should be me covered till the weekend. Why do all my shows air on the weekend...
@Mario nah I've watched the whole thing but I'd heard about it at the start of this year and put it off. The dialogue between her and the fairies was great stuff, probably gonna rewatch it this weekend now that you mention it
Alright, I got three posts written up and will be throwing them out in about two hours or do.
I thought you've finished it. Yeah I love her character a lot, so cynical but witty. My favorite moment was when she read about fairy's plan to invent religions. She was like "so religions are invented?" (beat) "I've learn something new today". Priceless
@Mario Oh nice, it was one that I had heard about but never got round to. To put it in simple anime terms, Watashi is best girl
@topgavin: I just finished the series yo mentioned the other day: humanity is declined. Man, I love it. I know now I have a thing for dark twisted absurdist anime
@Ano340004: the name is Watashi ga Motete Dousunda, or to put it short Motete. I have fun with it but i'm not that enthuastic
@anon the english name is Kiss him, not me. Search through the first impressions if you need the jap name.
then that girl really loves BL (boy love)
what is the name of the anime that the girl is fat and then she got depressed because her favorite boy anime died then she got thin?
Season 7 is awesome so far too. It feels like the tone of the show is finally back to normal and it feels like Adventure Time again.
Whew, I binged all seasons of Adventure Time this weekend. The show hit a low spot in Season 6 but I think it needed to happen...Poor Finn needed the serious character development after what he did to FP.
You guys are too hard on it
Motete is very funny
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When it comes to gag manga and four-koma, I just eventually reach a stopping point with a comedy series in that format. Even with hidamari sketch.
I think it was typical light novel trash based on what was in the PV. I laughed that despite it being horrible that the crowd still cheered anyway, likely because it had a bath clip in it.
The PV was hilarious. I had no idea what the anime was about.
@Aidan I'm good, I'll stick with Working.
@K-Off, you could switch to something like Gi(a)rlish Number if you like. I for one am really digging the satire of the show. Plus I like that it's basically showing how an utter train-wreck of an anime can be made. That PV in the last episode was truly painful.
Feeling pretty disappointed with Working. I haven't gotten any more cynical with comedies, at least I don't think, and its flaws are so irritating.
@Adam Le, I find that with Comic book dialogue. Which is one of the reasons I have gone off marvel movies. Cartoons have it to a degree as well.
I love the instagram shots in Yuri
Maybe I can have a watch through those live action films and do a compare/contrast to see which version works better. After all movie and tv series are 2 different medium, and live-action vs animation is the topic that we never get tired of
speaking of which, the overlap between anime and live-action adaptation from manga is overwhelming. For this year alone, there were Erased, 3-gatsu no Lion, Fune o Amu, orange, and Chihayafuru (part 1&2). Those were just the ones I know.
@Adam: Don't know which genre you're into but you can try Fune o Amu (The Great Passage)
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I can't seem to get into any of these new shows. I don't know, the dialogue always seems off to me and the forced comedy is a big turn off.
Reminds me of a thought I had when I was last at the Getty art museum. People walking past works of art hundreds of years old, but only taking a second-long glance before moving on to the next one. Not their fault really, it's only the professional critics who can understand what they see with depth.
I'm the opposite really, they're getting paid for what they said so they better know their shits
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I suppose I'm slightly envious of professional critics somewhat.
Sometimes you're just meant to experience the ride you know. I don't watch those explained video anymore because after all it's just one guy's opinions.
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And I mean people who art professionals or students.
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I guess I'm just unsure of something, how many people watching "arty" stuff are able to pick it up on their own. By looking up an "explained video" or "explained essay" to get it, am I copping out?
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I feel like I've begun getting on board with the european art stuff but am really only scratching the surface with the Chinese and that stuff.
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And find myself missing whats going on sometimes.
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I'll admit I do find it frustrating, that even though I can like art films, emotionally connect at times, appreciate the visual techniques and admire them for being so different without looking up analysis by people far smarter than myself I honestly feel lost sometimes as to the meaning.
@Kaiser: Apichatphong Weerseethakul's films are so otherworldly and spiritual that I wouldn't dare to call them "dreams" anymore. Check out his "Uncle Boonmie", "Syndromes and a Century", "Cemetery of Splendors". he has such singular vision that just watch and experience his films are rewarding enough
@afgm: well, if we really go over-analyze it, bunnies can represent desire for example ^^
like eating sweet snow is so randomness for me
@Badesh: the things you said might be something I might do in the future. After all I love dissecting symbolism. But for Flip Flappers I need to know more what are intentional and what are randomness first
So Papika is corrupting Cocona? That would make some sense I guess
I mean I guess bunnies represent purity? Maybe?
@Kaiser: I mean yeah I get that things can be beautiful just because they're beautiful. But the effort comes in trying to connect that beauty and symbolism to the story as a whole, which is something I honestly struggle to do with Flip Flappers. It just seems pretty gratuitous at this point.
I don't know I think flip flappers is probably deeper than people might give it credit for. I just don't have the time or energy to piece together the abstraction. Doesn't mean that the meaning doesn't exist, it's just hard (and possibly misguided) to uncover it on the first run through.
but i don't want to get into a "who is right" argument. it was just a wish of mine to get to know the persons view of the world and not just be part of his daily mood
yeah, but i could happen that you grow intelectual but not personal ;)
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But theres no shame in watching a heavily thematic arthouse thing, liking it then going "didn't quite get/catch that" then looking up what it means.
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But for going into things, analyzing them, I wasn't saying thats wrong, when I meant overanaylsis I meant people making shit up that isn't actually there.
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And going too deep into thinking about that image shows the person is failing to understand that they were supposed to interact with it on an emotionally or spiritually intellectual level.
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Rather than de-mystifying that image or losing its enigma.
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I just think sometimes people forget that things can be entirely impressionistic or expressionist, people sometimes forget that images don't necessarily need a giant essay behind them or meaning or analysis. What I mean is you can have a 15 minute stretch of gorgeous looking images but the point is that you feel that or see the imagination and creativity because its beautiful.
It requires an understanding and a concept of life of the reviewer that highlights the right things, the things that widens the readers perspective, based on the narrow popculture consicousness that we have, sorry to be that dramatic...
Yeah, i don't mean that kind of overanalyzing :) so i.e. that beautiful picture of flip flappers to the left is so much more than the "character floating through an imaginary world" if you start to go into that, what it does with the viewers heart, you can write an essay weather it was the creators intention or not. that's the kind of thing i dream about and care to read
Of course afterwards they will certainly claim that they planned everything from the colour of toothpaste used but I take that with a grain of salt.
Plus the basic idea that the creator of a materiel is a complete mastermind who has internally planned out a massive series of symbolic comparisons and intricate threads which the vast majority of viewers would completely fail to see. And quite frankly, people just ain't that smart and have no reason to put in such massive effort.
The problem with overanalyzling however is that it's usually down to a series of simplifed concepts held together by a flimsy logical foundation. Like the ring theory of star wars.
...which is only achieved through what you call overanalyzing - at least in the internet world where only words count.
I wish people would "overanalyze" more. For me it get's pretty boring pretty fast to read something along the lines of "this wasn't good/perfect because i have seen better" - that's interesting as long as i need anothers opinion to get a feel for the materia. once you are somewhat experienced in life you only care for this sort of things if you know that persons view of the world...
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@Mario: Would you say the Apichatphong Weerseethakul's films are worth looking into as "dream" films, always wanted to get into his work but it seems....daunting.
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I'd imagine if you went looking you could probably find people who overanalyzed Eden of the east (as with anything) to where they saw something none of us could (or that they wanted to see). Something about young peopl in society was one look at it. But for me eden of the east was an undercooked thriller merged with a bad chick flick and the films ruined whatever good will I had for it.
I'm almost giddy with the possibility of this being the closest thing I get to Utena this decade (besides actual ikuhara works of course haha)
@ano327926: Boy, how true. agreed 100% with you here
"liberate pure illusion" is the new "revolutionize the world"
@mnei, that's hardly the only thing in Eden of the east that didn't make any sense. It was a great idea but boy...did the writing fail hard.
Anyone here watched Eden of East and got fucking confused as I do about why Akira had to wipe off his memories and ship NEETS to Dubai? He wasn't really deceived (in my opinion). He didn't have to send the NEETS anywhere either.
@Mario and from what I've heard, they skipped out a whoooole bunch of fanservicey training sessions that happened before the 1st episode. Dunno whether I'm happy or dissapointed with that
I swear Keijo's everyday training is much more intense than Saitama's
I goddamn love Drifters opening.
@Anon, the story improved in volume 3 but I don't think your issues with the show have really disappeared. So yes, it did get better but it still has it's issues.
Did RWBY get better in vol 3? I watched the first two and hated them but the designs of the girls are nice and the characters are even good, I just can't stand these graphics and that shitty plot or the comedy scenes in which it tries to copy anime humor. The "western" comedy is nice.
So RWBY volume 4 airs next week. Nice. I was actually going to write a review on RWBY and just never got around to it. Seeing as it's somewhat anime I say it's suitable for the site though honestly while it is anime styled, the writing is pure cartoon.
So that's Raising project, Drifters and Occult Nine for me.
@Topgavin, seeing as it was pretty much Top of the Preview poll(Besides Natsume but I am not the man to do Natsume.) I will do Occult Nine. I can at least have fun ripping it apart and comparing it to its contemporaries.
@Mario, for starters you can stop calling her a bitch. Flip Flappers is a classy lady so put you fapping aside and treat her good. So yep, it fine by me.
@Topgavin: He'll be fine.... I hope
Guess it'd be Raising project, Drifters and Keijo/Occult Nine..?
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