Posted by psgels on 29 July 2007 with categories: Higurashi no Naku Koro ni


With this episode, I’m beginning to understand this arc a bit. It’s one of these cases where the disease isn’t really triggered for anyone, so the turn of events are just what would go on if nobody did anything unpredictable. Meanwhile, the time is filled with random games, and Rika’s despair. Satoko seems to be the only one who acts differently because of it.

Tis episode yet again didn’t give us any new information, it just confirmed things more. Irie indeed is doomed to die. The real villain is indeed controlling the Sonozaki-family from the shadows, and Tomitake indeed clawed himself to death, because of the disease. One interesting thing to note is that Rika said he would be killed, instead of suicide, which makes me suspect that the killer forcibly awakened the diseases in them. Something also tells me that these guys in uniforms were messing with the electricity house as a step to set off the great Hinamizawa-disaster.

Still, I finally know the answer to one of the smaller questions raised in the first season: Remember when Keiichi and Shion felt that they were being watched? It turns out that they were the henchmen of the Sonozaki-family after all. It seems that they’ve been collecting information for the real killer all along. We already know that they’ve received training, so I imagine that you can only spot them if you really pay attention, which is what Satoko has been doing in this episode.

Rika is also way too caught up in her own despair. Keiichi didn’t remember everything without any reason. I think that for the past arcs, she’s been trying to manipulate the wrong things. While she tried to cure the individual victims, she also could have gone after Tomitake, Takano and Irie in order to protect them. Somehow, she didn’t do that.

While typing this entry, I’ve also been wondering something. Why did Irie have the cure for the disease in the third arc, and why did Rena and Mion have it in the first arc? It’s been a long while since we saw these arcs, but I can very well imagine that the culprit killed Irie because he formed too much of a threat. I also finally remembered that Irie didn’t die in every arc: he lived in the first one.

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  1. Wyrdwad says:

    Actually, if you’ll recall, when they were about to jab Keiichi with the syringe in the first arc, Mion and Rena mentioned that “the doctor” would be coming soon… I suspect they probably got the cure FROM Irie.

    I need to rewatch the first series, though, as this is one anime where paying careful attention to little details is key. (:

    -Tom

  2. Alpha123 says:

    Actually, in the first arc Rena and Mion weren’t even going to “stick” Keiichi. Remember that it was just a penalty game that got out of control, Keiichi was hallucinating that they had a syringe when it was actually just an ink pen that they were going to use to draw on Keiichi’s arm. And for the “Doctor” coming I think it was because Mion and Rena found Keiichi passed out in the woods, carried him home and called Dr. Irie to check him out.

    For the cure, I don’t think that believe that Dr. Irie even knows of the disease, we have been given no indication that he knows anything about it. In the third arc, he just believe that Keiichi was delusional, not that he had a disease. I mean, if Dr. Irie had the cure to the disease why wouldn’t he petition for a mass immunization of the population at the first sign of infection?

    I’m thinking just like you are and that is Dr. Irie is murdered because it means that if he is kept alive that he will figure out about what is going to happen to a certain degree, such as the disease being released. This is why he is poisoned, to keep him from interfering after the plans are set into motion.

    As for the henchmen, I don’t think that they are Sonozaki related. Remember back when Shion was going through the distinction, having her fingernails ripped out, the henchmen that held her down were just nothing more than mafia-like street thugs, not high trained assassins. I just doubt that the Sonozaki family equips their henchmen with silenced pistols when they are sort of like the yakuza of the town. I think that the real killer(s) is controlling those guys and is using the Sonozaki Family to a certain degree, but is not related to them.

    On a final though, last episode we saw that Hanyuu was some sort of spectral spirit or something like that. Now in the third arc, remember that Keiichi heard some footsteps like someone was following him? I think that was Hanyuu. In that arc, Rika knew that Keiichi was the one that was infected and sent Hanyuu to keep tabs on him. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say that this was how Teppei’s body was dug up and moved by Rika. Although I do see the ridiculousness in this as Rika wouldn’t be able to move, or much less dig up a full grown adult’s body, but is fun to speculate.

    Sorry about the wall of text, but I’ve just been think about this stuff for a while and had to write it down and get it out. Thanks once again for blogging this series, I always look forward to your posts and theories for this series.

  3. psgels psgels says:

    The reason I believe that the true killer has something to do with the Sonozaki-family is because of what Mion said in the fifth arc. Remember how she said that her position in the family doesn’t have any power at all, and that she only acts as a spokesperson. Furthermore, she believes that there is someone, other than Mion, who’ll inherit her true position. And I believe that this man or woman is the true killer, as we’ve seen the henchmen work for both him/her and the Sonozaki-family (see arc 4).

    Also, if Mion and Rena didn’t try to cure Keiichi from the disease in the first arc, how does that explain the sixth arc, in which Rena tried to embrace Keiichi?

  4. natsumi says:

    the stalkers of satoko aren’t said to be sonozaki’s, though ^^;;

    and while it’s true that rika could have just ‘protected’ (with the strength of a 12yr old girl…) irie+tomitake+takano, the reason why she doesn’t is because it would lead to important plot/ending detail being given too quickly~ because she’d realize who’s the culprit, which is minagoroshi/matsuribayashi spoiler

  5. Ashura says:

    The reason I believe that the true killer has something to do with the Sonozaki-family is because of what Mion said in the fifth arc. Remember how she said that her position in the family doesn’t have any power at all, and that she only acts as a spokesperson. Furthermore, she believes that there is someone, other than Mion, who’ll inherit her true position.

    Didn’t she talk about Shion, wo in fact is the sibling with that tatoo on her back?

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  • AidanAK47
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 07:37 PM)
    @Bam, the class sustem is pretty vague at best. There are servents who can be summoned to many different classes. Berserker can be summoned as a Saber as well and I am pretty sure Archer fits that catagory as well. There’s even a servent in Fate/apocrypha whos a class mixture of assassin and castor.
    The counterforce didn’t really make him an archer, that was the holy grail war system. I say Archer only used his bow in the flashbacks because it was the easiest method of attack.
  • Bam
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 07:33 PM)
    And no I’m not really that annoyed for Lancer not kicking Shinji off of Rin immediately, at least not in this version, but if he really was trying to get his rape on in the VN with Lancer huffin n puffin right there next to them then that would be pretty awkward then.
  • Bam
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 07:27 PM)
    What I’m legitimately confused about is how did Shirou become an archer? Didn’t he always use melee weapons? Does the counterforce just kinda prefer the archer archetype or something? Cuz even as a Guardian Shirou should’ve still used the double daggers, or even a rolled up enforced newspaper or something.
  • Bam
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 07:23 PM)
    @Aidan: yeah I’m mostly just shooting shit at it, I actually thought it was good, despite the fact that I would’ve been pleasantly surprised if Archer either killed or managed to stop Shirou’s ambition. But plot armor is nothing new to the medium, hell, even Guts has a pretty thick layer of it on at this point.
  • AidanAK47
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 06:11 PM)
    I really enjoyed this episode of anime. Whether someone else did not enjoy it is no concern of mine.
  • AidanAK47
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 06:09 PM)
    Sigh…I just read through 20 pages of stuff on that ANN Fate UBW 20 review. Honestly…I am just tired of this crap. On and on, the same arguments being shouted as if this time they will win an unwinable battle. I really don’t argee with the review but jumping into the fray isn’t going to help anything. Shouting my view won’t change her opinion just as her shouting does not change mine.
  • AidanAK47
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 04:48 PM)
    You know when Shinji was talking to Rin. You could have said something Lancer.
  • AidanAK47
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 04:47 PM)
    @Bam, Ouch. Come on I think comparing him to Kirito is a bit much. You think that Kirito would every be shown getting this much of a beating?
    I do argee that lancer should have jumped in sooner…but he did get a spear though the chest and likely did need some time to rest after attacking Kirei. But a “HEY FECK OFF YOU LITTLE SHIT” would have been appreciated.
  • Bam
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 05:54 AM)
    The episode was alright and felt dense as I watched it, but in hindsight only really moved the plot forward incrementally. Lancer not untying Tohsaka as soon as he killed Kirei and then not killing Shinji when he clearly had the chance left a bad taste in my mouth. That and Shirou’s heavy plot armor at this point is becoming reminiscent of another famous anime dual-wielder. Not a compliment.
  • Bam
    (Monday, May 25. 2015 05:46 AM)
    UBW 20 felt like another rendition of Eva 26 (Take care of yourself), complete with character analysis, battle with one’s Jungian Shadow, and loosely Buddhist ideas of self-actualization. It even featured the repetitive monologue shots that fade to black (with “I saw Hell” instead of Rei’s “Sky. Red, red sky”). It never went as far as Eva with “which way is up?” type of Soliloquy, but that’s probably a good thing.

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