Posted by psgels on 27 September 2007 with categories: Anime Reviews, Claymore


Shounen-fighting series have never been my favourite series. As far as I can recall, I’ve seen only one of them that really managed to deliver something truly original and creative that captivated me: The Law of Ueki. While Claymore doesn’t come close to that level, it does give a nice attempt, though.

While the start of the anime is just like any other serious shounen-series, as the episodes progress, it becomes clear that Claymore knows what it’s doing. Characters have sufficient backgrounds and they get fleshed out well enough outside and sometimes even during the fighting. The setting is solid and well-explored and overall, it knows how to build up very well.

Claymore basically consists out of arcs with the length of three or four episodes, with each of these arcs being different enough for everything to remain fresh. An interesting phenomenon also showed up as I kept watching: every successive arc increases the quality of the series significantly. This series starts out mediocre, but as the episodes go on, it just gets better and better and better. Even if some introductions may be dull, the conclusions for each successive arc were impressive.

This continues up to episode 20, and then something strange happens: the creators of the anime divert from the manga this series is based on, and things immediately fall apart. After that, there are still a few good moments, but it’s clear that the writers of the anime just aren’t as good as those of the manga and the result is a string of boring and overblown battles that fail to capture interest. It’s such a shame, as this anime was heading in such a good direction.

Still, don’t let that last bit ruin your enjoyment of this series. The majority of Claymore is well-written and a compelling story. The production-values are pretty good, and the soundtrack is enough to give the fights that little extra edge they need to become exciting. It may have its flaws, it may drag on a bit too much at times, but it’s definitely one of the better shounen-fighting series out there.

34 Responses

  1. anne says:

    I disagree that things fell apart as bad as people say they did. People are just biased against nonmanga original arcs in the first place. Not to say I enjoyed the final, but I just don’t think it’s a bad as people say it was. Maybe I never saw Claymore as that great to begin with? I have read the manga and did enjoy it somewhat, but never saw it as anything that special.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    I disagree with that statement. I myself have never read the manga, and this is one of the first times outside of Naruto and Bleach where I’ve agreed with the manga-fans about the changes that were made from the original. Usually I too appreciate some originality, but Claymore fell flat on its face for me with it.

  3. Markis says:

    It gets better and better and, if they had followed the manga, even better. They ignored Raphaela, Alicia, Beth or even why the claymores were sent to the north in the first place.
    The north campaign was hyped for a reason.

  4. David says:

    The end did ruin the enjoyment of the whole series for me. I can’t help it, because everything was set up very well. Just as you said, the characters were fleshed out to a certain extend. I especially liked Irene.

    What made the ending so bad in the first place is that Claymore is a show which has a very dark atmosphere at the beginning. This is what caught me and made me continue to watch it. However, coming towards the end it somewhat loses that tension bit after bit.

  5. Caruslira says:

    Claymore is probably one of hte best series I have ever seen I can agree to that the north campaign lost it’s meaning but all that info would just be too much for only one season. Besides manga and anime is two different things, why not enjoy not knowing what happens instead of beeing able to sit there and know what is going to happen…

  6. Chris says:

    I must say Claymore lost me a bit earlier around episode 16 or so when they are fighting the male AO in the cave. The fight was too stretched and too cheesy for my tastes. There was too much blathering during fights. I’ve only read the first chapter of the manga and compared to the anime, it felt excessively slow, so at least this part seemed to be handled way better in the anime. I’m not really a manga reader anyway, the lack of colour is usually a turn off for me because I’m a sucker for good colouring. I think that’s part of why I kept watching Claymore nonetheless. The colouring is very pleasing and watching the fights at night was almost immersive. However, especially the last two episodes felt boring. I don’t think the ending or wrap-up itself was bad just the way it was directed. I must also say that they could have done more with the voices because that was the least believable. The sound engineers could have used some effects especially for the monsters to make them sound more believable. The voice actors could have run some rounds around the block so that they sound really exhausted and not like someone obviously trying to fake it.

    Another inherent issue for me was that they greatest character “Teresa” had to die so early and there was not any character to fill this void. The rest of the Claymores was pretty exchangeable. I’d still agree that it’s one of the better shows also because there are not many similar shows. Berserk is somewhat similar at least with respect to the setting but then still very different. I’d prefer Berserk though which I watched not so long ago.

    • Marcus says:

      I agree with you. That fight scene pissed me off. It was very long and seemed like it would go on forever and fight scenes should never be boring. The most epic of fight scenes in Claymore was the one between Clare and Rigaldo The Silver Eyed Lion King. The love that scene down to the music in the background. I’m still looking for that song. And yea Teresa did die too quickly. So sad. She didn’t even get a chance to show but a fraction of her true power. I haven’t watched Berserk yet, but I hear good things.

  7. das says:

    Imagine if the series “Beserk” had had a ‘happy’ ending slapped on in place of the manga’s storyline.
    This is what I see in Claymore, just WHY did they do it? It was completely unnecessary and put a bad end on a good anime.

  8. Greggy says:

    “Claymore is probably one of hte best series I have ever seen I can agree to that the north campaign lost it’s meaning but all that info would just be too much for only one season. Besides manga and anime is two different things, why not enjoy not knowing what happens instead of beeing able to sit there and know what is going to happen…” I completely disagree with this. Saying the info that would have been present if they followed was to much, but what was actually ten times less than what they jammed into a 2 episode period is wrong. If they followed the manga (which I now strongly believed they didn’t because they won’t have had a “super actiony” finish lol) you wouldn’t have really learned much more about anything. I know a lot of people will disagree with what I am about to say, but thats to bad. I would have preferred they end the season with the end of the north fight leaving us (but really only the non-manga readers) in complete suspense.

    Nonetheless if they do, do a second season it’s gonna be extremely weird and well suspenseful for the ones who read the manga. Because it will be completely made up and different from the manga with Clair not searching for Raki because he is with her. Also Clair isn’t even with the others which is gonna completely change that part of the story and she has little-no reason to go after Pricilla anymore.

    My expectations they will turn it into a Clair and co versus the organization. Also they will like make them all bloodthirsty flat characters who forgot all the other claymores they will probable kill are in the same boat as them. Except the really cool crazy one who thinks its a child and enjoys suck on the new No. 47 tits because well she is already insane.

    good luck reading this
    Greggy

  9. jason says:

    i was watching this anime without reading the manga. but few days ago i read the manga and i came to find out that they arent following the manga. they did in the begining but not anymore. be it for manga or not. i liked claymore and it got more really interested in them. but its sad how they changed the series from manga. and the story outside of the maga sorta made me lose interest a bit. i still like claymore overall but not fan of the last few episodes as i was in the begining. i would like to see the full anime of the exact manga

  10. Jordan says:

    Someone please explain the satisfation of reading a manga, then taking the time to watch the anime with the exact same plot. Seriously, what’s the point? You already know what’s going to happen, so why bother? Do you have so much time on your hands?

  11. Calorro says:

    @Jordan: This might take you by surprise, but some people went to see the Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter movies having already read the books. Strange, isn’t it?

    Anyways, I’m glad it finally ended. The manga is ok, but the fights get incredibly silly in motion and the *cling cling* of the armors all the time was annoying. Oh, and that opening with the effeminate singer really gets on my nerves.

    About the last episodes… everyone knows that they suck major ass, so I won’t comment on that.

  12. jt says:

    ok, while i agree that maybe things started to fall apart the last few episodes, i refuse to associate this anime with the law of ueki. how was that anything more an overglorified flame of recca (which in my opinion was also crap). but this has definitely become 1 of my all time favorite animes and perhaps my favorite of this genre.

  13. kalpacho says:

    i liked claymore, my question to anyone is what other animes are similar to it like i mean which ones have a similar vibe, if any of you are experienced anime connoisseurs then give me some recommendations, i’d appreciate it

  14. Ricard says:

    As much as I enjoyed the first half of this series…I must say, the plot is an old formula. It’s in a lot of Asian classics (say, the Water Margin with women), and other Manga/Anime/OVA as well (Bubblegum Crisis comes to mind immediately).

    Regardless, it was immensely enjoyable. The 2nd half however has enough plot to fill in two episodes…maybe three.

  15. claymore123 says:

    ……dont remember that scene in the third picture with priscilla and raki both naked

    anyone know the episode?

  16. Naruto says:

    It’s kinda sad that they ended this awesome series abruptly. It would be nice if they extended it even if it’s not following the manga. Sadly, they didn’t…it could have been a great anime of all time.

  17. Gray says:

    Its one of the best animes ever made so quit bitching about the ending, it was a decent one.
    The manga is still ongoing so it would be idiotick to push the anime in on direction and the manga in the other. As for those for who the show is ” to slow” i dont realy know what you mean the show dosnt get slow at any moment, each episode suprises with somthing, brings somthing new. And dont get to hyped about action scenes art ect , the story of the main character is a terible sad one. I watched lots of animes nge , berserk lots of clasic ones :D and moste of them… were awesome but predictable, as for claymore i wasnt realy sure if they dont replace the main character in the midle and cary one with some other protagonist, becouse the world isnt made like in dbz its easy to die there and not to come back there are no miracles.

  18. psgels psgels says:

    Gray: my problem with the final few episodes was just that I thought that they were badly written and predictable, and moved miles away from what made the earlier episodes so enjoyable. I’m fine with just stopping your story and wrapping it up, but at least provide an interesting alternative, which is where the anime failed, in my opinion.

  19. Jambalaya says:

    I’ve been a long term fan of your reviews so I’m a little disappointed that this has happened. It’s come to light that your review of Claymore was basically stolen, and credit for it is being given to someone else.

    The copied review is on this site – http://myanimelist.net/reviews.php?uid=58731 – and is one of several that the person with username mvpmerome has copied from other reviewers, and is gaining credit for. This is dishonest in my opinion as you’ve worked hard to produce the original review, which expresses yourr honest thoughts and opinions.

    I am asking all the people who have had their reviews stolen to contact Xinil of MyAnimeList.com in order to resolve the issue.

    Thank you for your time.

  20. psgels psgels says:

    Jambalaya: thanks for notifying me. I’ve reported the review where he’s stolen my review, so let’s hope that the moderators of myanimelist.net will take action.

  21. Jambalaya says:

    Not a problem. Yours isn’t the only review that was stolen, as he did that with every other review he claimed to have written as well.

    The site admins say his reviews will be removed a.s.a.p.

  22. someone´s best friend says:

    CLAYMORE RULES, THE MANGA EVEN MORE!!!!

  23. Kurisu says:

    This is pretty hypocritical coming from people watching and writing about fansubs everyday. At least know the difference between plagiarism and theft. Considering that neither of you have financial gain from the reviews, it’s rather harsh denouncing someone in public for something that would have been solved by giving due credit. Sure, if that guy seriously claimed he had actually written it, that’s bad and wrong but otherwise it’s pathetic.

  24. Nubitox says:

    I must say that I watched the anime, and read the manga later on. To say that I got thunder struck by this show is quite right. Love the anime, and love where the manga is heading. I just hope its beeing made a follow up. Must say that Claire captivated me completely, and that I think Raki is a lucky bastard. =)

    Anyway, now that I’m done watching, and reading (for this month). I kind of have a problem finding another anime that is just as great as Claymore. Anyone up for giving me some suggestions? Please just post here, and I’ll be greatfull.

    One more thing, Whats so great about Berserk, I watched one episode, and stopped. Don’t know how people connect Berserk, and Claymore. Do it get better as you go?

    Thank you for your time. Nubitox

  25. psgels psgels says:

    I agree with you about Berserk: I also watched only the first episode, but didn’t like it, and yet it’s supposed to be really good. My guess is that its greatness comes from its character-development and second half, rather than its start.

    As for titles similar to Claymore… There’s Shigurui for the gore and darkness, and if you want something light and comedic, how about the Law of Ueki?

  26. Nubitox says:

    Hmm… I will check those shows out. Thanks for the help, it’s greatly appreciated.

  27. dan says:

    @ the people who only watched the 1st episode of berserk:

    lol the series actually begins on episode 2. You are supposed to watch episode 1 after you finish the series…

  28. Endless says:

    Claymore’s ending was highly disappointing.

    **Spoiler Warning***
    How could Priscilla not die. That was Claire’s only mission in life. It seems simple to me: Claire had to kill Priscilla or at least die trying. It would like the Bride in Kill Bill making it all the way to Bill, having this epic battle with the man and then shaking hands with him and walking away without killing him. That is poor poor story telling. I don’t think I’ve seen an anime with such a disappointing ending.
    *****
    You want my advise, don’t watch this anime. I’ve never read the manga so I can’t comment, but stay the hell away from this anime.

  29. Thomas says:

    Just a little note for the people above who commented that they only watched the first episode of Berserk: the rest of Berserk is in an almost completely different style.

    To get a feel for the style of Berserk, you really have to watch the first 3-4 episodes at the very least.

  30. Perrin4869 says:

    This series got higher than Gundam 00… Something’s just TERRIBLY wrong with that, in my opinion. Seriously, the only thing this anime had to offer were 2 great first episodes, the rest sucked very badly.
    Of course, both animes are completely different, but if one’s superior, it’s Gundam…

  31. emily says:

    One thing I would have to say about claymore is if they gave it a proper ending and finished the series instead of cutting it off like they did it would have been really good. The problem is that they ran out of funding and decided to stop the anime while you could take it as an ending it wasn’t really proper it left many things unanswered.

  32. Arno says:

    I was more or less forced to watch this by a teenage girl who considered it “the best anime ever”. What a disappointment, what a wreck !

    The animation doesn’t qualify as animation. It’s more like still images moving over still backgrounds. No colour either. The faces are interchangeable.

    The monsters made me chuckle. Not in a good way, because I was wondering what stupid ridiculous and ugly creature they could pull out of their ashes next.

    The boy Raki is unbearable, enough in himself to consider the anime dead on arrival. His voice is the real nightmare monster of the show.

    The fights are boring, as others said over-blathering and I would add totally predictable or disappointing in the end.

    As other noted there is no coherent ending.

    The politics of that stupid Claymores organization left me indifferent. It’s a good thing there are monsters to fight because otherwise all Claymores would be dead from boredom.

    Actually the only interesting aspect in this is the phenomenal support it receives from teenagers.

  33. Jedman says:

    The terrasa arc in this Anime was awesome, one of the best parts ive seen in any Anime, but then it kind of went downhill after there. and I found it was slow to start but the middle was amazing and worth watching it for.

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Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually in a rarity, a sequel season is better than the first.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which makes my enjoyment of sangatsu so strange.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I generally do not like game/sports orientated shows.
Kaiser-Eoghan
That you slightlySuper-erMario and superwooper!
Kaiser-Eoghan
And my reaction to the show is such, that I enjoyed it enough to make such a huge pot about it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also I want Akari to be my mom and Hina is adorable without being annoyingly so and Kana Hanazawa is doing a good job voicing her.

And whoever said it is right, the op/ed songs are worth listening to, for once I’m not skipping them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
At this point it feels as if by the end of the series I’ll come off it thinking that I don’t want to say goodbye to these characters.
I don’t think as of just yet it complete lives up to honey and clovers legacy though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never cared about Harunobu initially, but recent episodes have changed this.
Dull parts of the manga are easier to get through for me in the anime due to Shaft elevating the material with one of the better uses of their visual gimmicks.
Giving the series another chance, even though I won’t fully embrace the humour, it does now and then manage to make me laugh a little.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The bullying arc centering on Hina and the shows treatment of it is better than most anime bullying stories and has provided the most emotionally rewarding aspect of the show.
Characters that are assholes like Kyouko’s boyfriend, Kyouko herself I’m finding somewhat more sympathetic and want to see more to their personal drama.
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However I do genuinely think that the series does a good job of allowing dramatic moments to creep up on the viewer, that early scene of Hina crying over her mother, Rei’s family flashbacks, Akari’s concerns about Hina/the stuff with her dad, all the scenes with Kyouko do carry an effective and solid dramatic weight to them.
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I feel it starts very strong, making a great first impression, then kind of has these dull moments that make it sort of a slog at times to get through, unfortunately I have no interest in chess/shougi and no knowledge the show tries to give me is going to stick or allow me to embrace that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Through jumping back and forth between the anime and manga, I can say I have no caught up to where I will now watch March comes like a lion on a weekly basis.
Anonymous1636224
The blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki
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Mmmmmm the suffering of all those innocent people feeding his God boner, this is why I love Inuyashiki
Lenlo
Oh yeah, thats not a knock against it. Just noting they dont *need* much animation
SuperMario
Well, the nature of Mahoutsukai is slow-burned, so it makes sense they focus more on static, quiet moments
Lenlo
Was that blade 2022 thing supposed to be an example? Because I wasnt a fan. It was stylish sure, but difficult to follow.
Lenlo
Maho is a good looking show, I wouldnt call it a great animated show.
Lenlo
The issue for me is, theres just not alot being animated most of the time. Usually its a pretty slow moving anime, so most of its time is talking and still shots. It doesnt need alot of animation, so it doesnt have it.
Lenlo
@Niel, I think Mahoutsukai can have good animation when it wants to. Like the water viel in episode 10 looked good (Though im not sure how much of that was after effects)
Anonymous1635607
uhhh creepy
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the blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki so much
Amagi
I think the security is the same as here, it's just that Japanese people are less likely to rip stuff (correct me if I am wrong). It seems like ripped anime, manga and so on are basically always uploaded by Americans, Chinese people or someone else.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised heavens feel was camripped I thought security in japanese theatres was stronger.
Amagi
Yeah it's also screening in Germany, I will watch it in February, together with Heaven's Feel, Mutafukaz, Kimikoe and a few others.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*on Europa cinema
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nanoha new film to screen next February in the US, come in Europa license it for over here dammit....
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did have some down moments though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I guess contrasting Luke with his old self goes some way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Saw the preview screening of the new star wars, still feel the new trilogy stands inbetween the originals and prequels, fufills its duty as a *** star blockbuster , some genuinely hilarious high camp moments, awful tokenism, Snoke is a shit villain, but two scenes with Luke actually have a pathos to them and I liked the chase/action scenes when they happened. Nobody cares about the acting/dialogue
AidanAK47
But there are times when it goes way too far and you can barely make out what is even supposed to be happening. Or characters go so off model that they are unrecognizable. It can be immersion breaking. Much like uncanny CGI.
AidanAK47
@Niel, I do agree that it's annoying to see people complain about animation when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Like those inbetween frame screenshot people. But I will say I appreciate on model characters more so than chaotic movement. When the off model stuff suits the tone of the scene like that blade runner part, then it's fine.
niel
I also don't want to see someone imply visual=animation for the hundredth time. Are people really that ignorant of the technical/artistic aspect of the media they consumed?
niel
It just depends on what works best in given scene and the aesthetic they want to go for. People can complain all they want about off-model stuff, but if they really only want that the they won't be getting nearly as much of those impactful scenes as there are now. So many of the ways people complain about it is really irking to me.
niel
normal/low action scenes is different from being on-model during the action sequences and just the ones that need some extra impact in general. https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ?t=6m45s
niel
But that depends on the situation though. And I'd argue that being consistent and on-model during
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter/Niello/Mario: Ideally I want it both ways, fluid animation AND consistent model visuals, all the while never sacrificing choreography.
SuperMario
But really, who am I to say. I'm the dude who prefer beautiful shot composition myself
SuperMario
The same can be said with Shinkai's movies since he always prefers static, beautiful shot that people tend to overlook that his animation is quite poorly handled
Vonter
You're right, but art direction does alleviate limited animation, I mean the old Berserk anime, kinda has a lot of slideshow moments. MahoYome has nice backgrounds, and despite the samey faces, at the very least doesn't come from the same mold as other series. Still cutting corners with chibi segments is was a mistake.
SuperWooper
Is it any wonder that people prefer things to be static/on-model? They want to see characters who look consistent and familiar so they can relate to them.
Nie
MahoYome being the biggest offender of people getting triggered to any kind of statement about the show's animation not being good. And it's absurd because the show's animation really isn't great at all. It's good with distracting people with pretty pictures, but animation-wise it's still mediocre.
Nie
@SuperMario: Not much. Just stuff like "Art is part of the animation weather it's beautiful backgrounds or just amazing looking characters. It's not all about how they move. If it was, CG would be considered great animation" multiple times. I've just been finding myself being replied with these kinds of comment non-stop since the start of the season.
SuperMario
@Niello: What happened exactly, if you don't me asking?
Nielllo
If I hear someone says AMB has good animation one more tie I might actually lose it. It's amazing how people who apparently know nothing about it try to defend this and other people who don't know anything are actually supporting the guy.
Niello
So with Fate Apocrypha episode 22 out, I'm just now learning that people think webgen style is horrible and they prefer static scenes with pretty visual over actual quality animation. WTF. I can't comprehend this. Are casual people who watch animation in general really that oblivious to the art they have been watching?
Lenlo
Berserks Dynasty Warriors style game looked better. Also, Mahoutsukai should be up tonight/tomorrow. Turns out, Christmas is a busy time of year at this job.
Amagi
*worse
Amagi
Especially when you consider how good CGI can be by now, look at Houseki or Kado. But Berserk was the worst thing I saw in years, many scenes felt worst than sequences of PSX games
Amagi
@SuperMario: Same. I love Kon and also consider Paprika's OST as the best. @Lenlo: Me too. I honestly even enjoyed the movies but the new series was atrocious
Lenlo
HIRASAWAAAA! HAAAAAI YOOOOO.
I miss the 90s Berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was also quite fond of his soundtracks for Berserk. AIIIIIYE FORCES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
SuperMario
@Amagi: I'm a big fan of Kon so I've watched everything from his. Even bought a book about his works. About the soundtrack, I listened to them as well but not regularly, compare to pprika OST which I downloaded and listen to a lot
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although not completely a manga, Usagi yojimbo also has an anthro character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Millennium actress is partially inspired by the actress Setsuko Hara.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: The anthro-animal manga is even a topseller as far as I know. Haven't looked into it yet, though. Maybe I will do so.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I am still hoping Dream Machine will happen some day. Kon died believing it would happen
Amagi
@SuperMario: Have you tried the other Kon movies like Millennium Actress once? Thought they were really good and Hirasawa is responsible for the OST there too. Or Paranoia Agent which was (IMO) very good as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nttSKBJ38k (OP)
Niello
Eoghan: Enjoy... ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't read this, its very strange to see a manga about full anthro animal characters: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Beastars
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
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