Posted by psgels on 11 November 2007 with categories: Les Miserables - Shoujo Cosette

And so we start with the aftermath of the revolution. I think that with this, we’ve passed the best part of the story, though that doesn’t mean that the current episode wasn’t excellent. We see Jean, escape from the sewers, Gavroche, waking up and finally getting to see Cosette again, and Cosette, who afterwards returns to the scene of the battlefield, discovering that everyone died. I do have a few points of critique for this episode, though.

Thenardier returns! Finally! It could have used a bit more foreshadowing, though. The guy almost literally appeared from out of nowhere, and we’ve got no clues as to what he’d be doing in a sewer in the first place, especially when he just happened to be where Jean found his exit, with none other than Javert waiting on the other side. Did the novel explain this better? I mean, the potential for the next episode is huge, but it’s a tad too coincidental. :P

I’m also still hoping for Thenardiere and Azelma to get released from prison, but with seven episodes left, I think that they’ll get some more attention, as it seems that the creators are going to have to fill the remaining airtime with a few fillers here and there, because the book doesn’t seem to have enough material left to fill them. That’s also why I found Thenardier’s appearance so strange, for a series that was always so careful with building up.

Another thing that bugged me in this episode was the animation: it went everywhere! It’s not something that I’m used to of this series, which has always had very consistent graphics. Did something happen over at the producer’s side?

13 Responses

  1. R says:

    No, unfortunately it didn’t. It states that he’s hiding from the police for some reason or other, but it still comes across as a case of deux ex machina.

  2. angedemystere says:

    Ah, deux ex machina. What would we do without you? Ahem.

    I have not read this part of the book, but in one of the movie versions I’ve seen (the 3-hour English-dubbed French one to be precise), it shows Thernadier running around Paris trying to scrounge everything he can in the midst of the pandemonium produced by the revolution. At one point, when he is stealing from a shop, a group of policemen try to seize him and he claims that this is his shop. The police are smart enough not to believe him, but somehow Thernadier manages to escape from them and descends into the sewers to hide. This might have just been filler that the movie provided in order for Thernadier’s presence in the sewers to make more sense. Also, I think Javert was pursuing Thernadier without really knowing who he was, and when Thernadier gave Valjean the key to the grate, he also allowed Javert to follow after Valjean. It’s kind of weird because almost no one recognizes any one else (except Jean and T. recognizing Javert – he’s a hard guy NOT to recognize.)

    Question: Did the episode just end with Valjean running into Javert outside the sewer grate?

  3. psgels psgels says:

    It’s a bit strange that Javert was chasing Thenardier after all this. I mean, just before he was still obsessed with Jean, and I don’t see him chase a random criminal on his own that fast.

    As to the answer of your question, yes, it did. The cliff-hanger showed Jean, finally coming out of the sewer and Javert standing outside the sewer gate.

  4. Irene says:

    In the musical, Thenardier’s been looting the bodies of those who were killed at the barricade, which is kind of a better reason than the book gives, which is, uh, none at all, really. xD There’s Romantic literature for you.

    Also, in the book, Valjean recognizes Thenardier at once, but Thenardier doesn’t recognize Valjean because 1) it’s really dark, and 2) by that point Valjean is so covered in blood and gunpowder and sewer muck he’d pretty much be unrecognizable even if it were daylight. But of course they can’t show that in a children’s anime. xD

  5. Irene says:

    Oh, and in response to your question about Javert chasing Thenardier – that wasn’t his original intent. After being released by Valjean, Javert returned to the prefecture and made his report, then immediately returned to his duties, which included watching a certain area of the right bank of the Seine. He just happened to catch sight of Thenardier in that area, recognized him, and decided to follow him. Javert may be determined to catch Valjean, but he’s hardly neglectful of his other duties.

    (Why, yes, I am watching this anime with a copy of Les Mis in hand. *dork*)

  6. Dookers says:

    I thought Gavroche would’ve died. *sad, since Gavvy died in both the book and the musical, even though his death was kinda sad*

  7. R says:

    In the musical, Thenardier’s been looting the bodies of those who were killed at the barricade, which is kind of a better reason than the book gives, which is, uh, none at all, really.

    I disagree. Whenever I listened to that part (, I always wanted to know exactly how so many corpses ended up down in the sewers. It seemed even more random than the book version.

  8. Irene says:

    I’m of the opinion that a poor reason is better than no reason at all, but I do see where you’re coming from. xD

  9. angedemystere says:

    “Also, in the book, Valjean recognizes Thenardier at once, but Thernadier doesn’t recognize Valjean because 1) it’s really dark, and 2) by that point Valjean is so covered in blood and gunpowder and sewer muck that he’d pretty much be unrecognizable even if it were daylight.”

    I thought neither of them recognized the other right away because it was dark and they were BOTH covered in muck. Valjean may have recognized Thenardier as they spoke (I, unfortunately, do not have the book in front of me), but I’m pretty sure that Hugo directly states that they did not recognize one another. Do check, my memory is by no means infallible.

    And yes, Valjean is so covered in filth that even Javert does not recognize him. That’s pretty extreme, since they had seen each other just a few hours earlier.

    I cannot WAIT for the next episode. Gah, next week seems so far away!

  10. Irene says:

    Thenardier raised a hand to his forehead, knitting his brow and pursing his lips in the manner of a man seeking to recognize another. He failed to do so. Jean Valjean had his back to the light, and was anyway so begrimed and bloodstained that even in the brightest light he would have been unrecognizable. Thenardier, on the other hand, his face illumined by the light from the grille, faint though it was, was immediately known to Valjean, and this gave the latter a certain advantage in the dialogue that was to take place between them.
    -Les Miserables, Norman Denny translation

    And yeah, I can’t wait for the next episode either, especially since anyone who knows the plot and has seen the preview can guess what they’re going to cover. Oh, man, I hope they pull it off right! O_O

  11. GuruLazer says:

    I really can’t wait for the next one, I’ve been waiting for this bit since the anime began. I hope they pull it off!!! >_

  12. angedemystere says:

    Oy, I know, me too. It took the official website FOREVER to post the trailer for the episode. It’s the only way I can see any part of the episodes, since the show is not available to the American public yet. I’m tingling with anticipation!

    Sorry I didn’t talk sooner, Irene, but I still haven’t had a chance to check my copy. I believe you and all, I’m just wondering if our different editions are consistent on that point. They should be. O_O

  13. Hannah says:

    In the musical, he’s robbing the bodies that have fallen or been pushed into the sewer. He sings a pretty catchy song about it, too.

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  • Kaiser Eoghan
    (Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 04:18 AM)
    The remake as far as remakes go should have been worse but it worked much better than I would have thought and I say this as someone who hates reboots/remakes.
  • Kaiser Eoghan
    (Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 04:16 AM)
    @Bam: I’ve only partially seen the first evil dead but I don’t think its aged well, the second one I’ve seen and its hugely entertaining later on but its army of darkness that was the most enjoyable of the three for me.
  • Bam
    (Tuesday, Dec 1. 2015 03:47 AM)
    Wow Ash Vs the Evil Dead 01 was a blast; I really should’ve gotten into this sooner. I was smiling thru most of it, either because it was funny or slap-stick gory, or because it was a blast to see that Sam Raimi still got it. I guess the only time that Evil Dead works is when he’s involved. Seeing Bruce Campbell again with the chainsaw was a treat which I didn’t know I needed in my life.
  • Kaiser Eoghan
    (Monday, Nov 30. 2015 10:31 PM)
    I’m trying not to get my hopes up however, given that it wouldn’t be surprising if he gave us another filler chapter like he did with that pointless flashback.
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    (Monday, Nov 30. 2015 10:26 PM)
    I enjoyed this chapter of berserk and it made me immediately think “Finally now we’re getting somewhere”. I have been flicking through older chapters of the manga and wow, this really has turned into something fairly different. Bam is right about Gut’s reason to go to elfland. I think its impossible now to get a satisfactory ending out of berserk though we’ve been waiting too long.
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    (Monday, Nov 30. 2015 10:14 PM)
    The alternative is that Miura wants to bank on this till he dies; can’t blame him cuz you can always bet on black (swordsman).
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    (Monday, Nov 30. 2015 10:13 PM)
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    (Monday, Nov 30. 2015 09:48 PM)
    It’s been so long I can’t even remember why they were going to elfhelm in the first place. Also was that a one piece joke?
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