Posted by psgels on 2 December 2007 with categories: Les Miserables - Shoujo Cosette


And with this episode, all remaining threads for as far as I know have been neatly wrapped up, aside from the Thenardiers. Now… what the heck is going to happen in the final four episodes!? The only hint we have is Jean, who spent the episode trying to decide where to go from now. Cosette is happy with Marius, and she’s finally reached the point where she doesn’t need him anymore. Now, what is Jean going to do?

In the rest of the episode, Marius tries to find the guy who saved him (he doesn’t remember that it was Jean), and Jean eventually ends up lying about how he wasn’t the one, and he made up a story of how he got away in the confusion. Marius also finally runs into Gavroche, and breaks the news of Eponine’s death to him and Cosette. He has settled his differences with his grandfather, and yes, he ends up proposing to Cosette. Awww. :3

One thing I am glad for, by the way, is that the animators found themselves some budget again. Especially the proposal-scene looked really pretty.

25 Responses

  1. Irene says:

    I noticed Javert showed up again in this episode – d’you have any idea what he said in the conversation between him and his superior (who I assume is M. Gisquet)? I’m hoping it was a resignation, but my Japanese is beyond horrid, so… xD;

  2. psgels psgels says:

    My own japanese isn’t much better, but from what I understood, Gisquet asked Javert what his plans for the future of his job were, and Javert asked that he’d like to keep working at the position he is now. Piquet then mentions how Javert has changed a bit (heh).

  3. Irene says:

    Oh, blah. xP Thanks for the translation, then!

  4. angedemystere says:

    *sigh* And Nippon has officially plunged into the knife. (Javert-wise, at least.) It makes me very, very sad.

    Huh, I’ve only seen episodes 45 and 46, but I have not detected any major problems with graphics. I thought you were referring to characters, though, and maybe you meant the scenery. Well, either way, it pretty much escaped my notice. Except for Javert, but then again they’ve always been kinda screwy and inconsistent with him. Grrrrr . . .

  5. psgels psgels says:

    Well, especially episode 47 had some really bad animation, and I meant the characters with it.

  6. Tania says:

    Well, I especially loved the fact that Marius finally told Cosette about Eponine’s death and that he actually had known her! At least, he showed himself grateful to her, I mean that she saved him. Because in the previous one he kept remembering everyone except her althought she’s the first one he has to think of. Well, it was nice to see Gavroche and Cosette crying over her death , it cleared up one thing : despite everything they cared about her. And when Marius talked Cosette and Gavroche about Eponine wishing him to protect Gavroche .All that was really heart-breaking and it again made me cry. Well, I don’t cry often when a character dies ( actually there are just two other characters I felt sad for: Marie-Antoinnette in Lady Oscar and Euphie in Code geass and Diva in Blood +) and most of all I never cried as much as I did when Eponine died. There were no end to my tears. So she meant more than just a character to me. But I won’t be able to explain cause it’s not any clearer for me. So I particularly liked the way Cosette and Gavroche reacted. It’s good to see they won’t forget her.

  7. angedemystere says:

    I sense impending doom for poor Valjean. Everyone else is so happy about Cosette and Marius’ marriage and he’s becoming majorly depressed. I kept imagining him thinking throughout the episode, “Gee, with Cosette going off with Marius and Javert not chasing me anymore, I’ve really got nothing to do.” That’s what most people call “retirement.” ^^,

    By the way, did anyone notice that Javert’s irises got a little bigger, especially in the last few shots of him? This seems to happen every time a character (usually male) turns “good.” It happened with Valjean when he went from convict to saintly philanthropist (you notice it more in episode 2), and when Alain went from thieving street rat to employed caretaker. I guess it makes the characters seem more sympathetic or something.

    He’s not scowling as much, either. Even though this change infuriates my canon-loving side, it’s kinda cute, too. What’s the last thing he says while he’s looking up at the sky?

  8. Kim says:

    I stumbled across here and read the entries… I watch the Korean subs when I can and just watch them without if they aren’t up. They’re fully up-to-date now.

    Javert says something like ‘Jean Valjean, as a repayment to this new life you gave me, I will live it well’.

  9. Irene says:

    …I figured that since psgels isn’t going to be watching any new episodes for some time, we could probably start the discussion for SC49 here. :P

    Any comments, guys?

  10. angedemystere says:

    I really liked it, considering that I couldn’t understand a word of it. But there were a lot of flashbacks, which was helpful. I’m actually a person who doesn’t cry a lot at movies and such, and I was on the verge of crying in that scene where Sister Simplice was telling Cosette about what happened to Fantine.

    Just a few things I need some clarification on: is Alain the mayor of M-sur-M now (if so, that’d be WAY too much of a coincidence), and was the nursery named after Fantine?

    OMG I saw the trailer for ep. 50 and it looks like EVERYONE is coming back! Yes, even Javert and Thenardier and Cosette’s three friends from the convent! I am SO psyched!

  11. Irene says:

    I couldn’t tell if Alain was mayor or not, but I was actually rather happy to see him again. I know, he’s an uncanonical bit character, but he was kind of cool for the short period of time he was actually involved in the plot, and I’d always wondered if they’d just left him hanging in M-sur-M with nothing to do. xP

    Although it does beg the question of whether or not M-sur-M went through the period of economic turmoil that Hugo described took place after Valjean left. My Japanese isn’t good enough to tell, so. xD

    SPOILER WARNING BELOW :D

    Yeah, it does look like the plot’s finally kicking back in! :D I wonder how they’ll fit Javert into this – the only thing I can think of is Marius spotting him in the street or something so he realizes Valjean didn’t actually shoot him. xP

  12. angedemystere says:

    *SPOILER WARNING*

    Well, I know that episode 51 is called “The Truth Revealed” and ep. 52 is called “The Silver Candlestick.” So Thenardier’s appearance at Marius’ place will obviously occur somewhere in the first episode. I had this vague theory that Javert somehow tails Thenardier to Marius’ home and ends up rectifying Thenardier’s lies and Marius’ misconceptions about Valjean. Not the most likely route, but kind of kick ass when I think about it. X)

    Hehe, here’s an interesting formula:

    Thenardier + Javert = WEDDING CRASHERS!

    Thus speaks my inner dork. =P

  13. Irene says:

    SPOILERS, KIND OF!

    Oh, I love that idea! Javert’s missed so many chances to be kickass in this anime that that would totally make up for all of those chances, even if he’s not supposed to be alive. xD

    And by “idea” I mean Javert popping in to set everything straight. Although the idea of him crashing the wedding with Thenardier is just as unbelievably amazing.

    …you know what, I want to see that just as much now. xD

  14. angedemystere says:

    I know. LOL

    So, uh . . . I guess we could go ahead and talk about ep. 50 now, if anyone has seen it.

  15. Irene says:

    I just watched it yesterday, so spoiler warning for everything below! xD

    I’m vaguely disappointed that Javert didn’t crash the wedding – also that the clip in the preview was really all we saw of him in the episode. xD I’m also completely unsurprised about them not killing off Mme. T., even though I’m not happy about it either.

    And when the heck are Marius and Cosette going to kiss – or was that too complicated for the animators? (I couldn’t help but notice that the animation quality went down again this episode. *sad*) What does a girl have to do to get some M/C fluff around here? xD

    Also – yay, it finally looks like Thenardier’s going to make his comeback next episode! I was also vaguely intrigued to see Javert standing outside M. Gillenormand’s – I wonder what he’s doing there?

    …you know what? Nippon would make up so much for their grievous crimes toward canon *cough*suicide*hack* if Javert burst in on Marius and Thenardier and hauled Thenardier’s sorry ass back to jail in true Javert style. Mme. T. and Azelma are out of Paris now, so that’s basically the only possible option I can see for Thenardier anyway, regardless of whether or not Javert makes a badass arrest. xD

    Can’t get my hopes up, though. We all know what happened the last time I did. >.>

  16. angedemystere says:

    Gah, I still haven’t seen it. *groan* I hate it when the trailers are misleading. But I guess I should be used to that here in the U.S. ^^,

    Hehe, maybe Javert is trying to get his gun back. Seriously, though, if he’s still around, he’s gotta do something BIG. Or else there is really no point in having him show up after ep. 46.

    Has Valjean slipped away into his little hole of depression yet? He looked so sad in the episode(trailer).

  17. Irene says:

    Not yet – there’s a vague cliffhanger – he tells Marius that he used to be a convict, and Marius goes “o.o” and the episode ends.

    So my guess is that they’ll cram in a buttload of plot next episode in an attempt to make up for the time wasted with the useless “Cosette and Gavroche go to M-sur-M” filler ep.

  18. angedemystere says:

    Yeah, the odd thing about that episode is that it takes away the necessity of Valjean telling Cosette about her mother later. If everything is going to play out the way it normally would, why bother having Cosette go to M-sur-M? My guess is that they’ve got something else in mind. *gulp* Which may include Javert. *keeps fingers crossed*

    The episode was a nice Fantine tribute, though. Most versions just blot her out after her death and only refer to her at the very end. It was also an explanatory episode for everyone in M-sur-M, which was cool.

  19. Irene says:

    I do admit it was kind of nice to see Alain and Sister Simplice again. xD

    But yeah, definitely keeping fingers crossed for 51. A few notable exceptions aside, Nippon’s been surprisingly good with the plot. Let’s hope they don’t disappoint!

  20. angedemystere says:

    *WARNING! SOME SPOILERS AHEAD!*

    Oh, pooh, I know what you mean. Man, one freaking shot of Javert. That’s just cruel! But a few other things I want to mention.

    1) Yeah, I definetely saw the animation go wayword a few times. What is up with World Masterpieces’ budget? Or their animators?

    2) Gavroche’s boys were SO CUTE, especially when they sang. Completely adorable. And the wedding was pretty.

    3) My gosh, Mme. Thenardier LOST WEIGHT! She’s mad thin now (well, not as thin as Eponine or Azelma ever were, but still . . .) But I guess that’ll happen when you’ve been in prison for a while. It sounded like she and Azelma were planning to return to Montfermeil. They do seem a bit happier and nicer now that Thenardier is out of their lives, which I can understand.

    Ah, Thenardier, still scheming, although he’s gonna have to do this solo. I saw the trailer for ep. 51 and his disguise is flippin’ hilarious. And yay, we can finally see Marius act like an overprotective jerk.

  21. angedemystere says:

    Oh yeah, and I liked seeing Gillenormand a little tipsy. :D

  22. Irene says:

    Yeah, drunk!Gillenormand was awesome, especially because I remember him being a total spaz in the book. xD “By the big slippers of big slipperdom!”

  23. angedemystere says:

    OMG really? *runs off to find book* lol

    Yay, psgels is back! You’ve got quite a bit of catching up to do here, but I’m confident you can pull it off. And, as I’m sure I’ve said before, I cannot WAIT to see how the rest of the series unfolds. Only two episodes left! It makes me happy and sad at the same time.

  24. Irene says:

    SPOILERS FOR EPISODE 51 BELOW!

    asdfjkl;I was right for once! *so incredibly gleeful right now* I have no idea what anyone was saying but omg for once That Guy In The Greatcoat Who Isn’t Dead is badass enough to be called Javert, and – and – eeee.

    It’s terribly uncanon, plotwise, but for once Javert is in character and right now that’s all I really care about. xD Nippon has begun to redeem themselves with this episode. Just a little, but it’s totally better than nothing.

  25. angedemystere says:

    *wants to squee really loudly* Oh god I MUST see this episode. GAH! And psgels, I know you’re incredibly busy, but PLEASE try to get back to this show ASAP. Pwease?

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My alltime favourite horror film is Possession.
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It's pathetic right now, I'm sorting out my arrangements for Seoul first.
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@Bam I'll send you the itinerary in a few hours. Appreciate the offer for guides but I'll decline on that, otherwise it wouldn't hurt to have additional contacts in japan. The person I'm traveling with is half Japanese, so I trust that we won't run into tourist traps.
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Can anybody else see these?
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@K-off: right on m8, I'm excited for you. Email me your itinerary and I can not only recommend some spots that aren't just basic tourist-traps, but can also hook you up with some friends to take you around and show you what the real Japan is all about.
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I am actually still breathing. Sorry again for the unceremonious absence.
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If youre going to japan maybe you could do something more unique than just taking pictures of locations? Plenty of those already on Google.
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Good point, normal users generally just stay anono. ke69Vin?...69...really....that's just sad humor right there.
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That was most definitely little Kevin as well. 9vinke6 is obviously an anagram.
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Are you kidding??!! Tokyo is amazing if you want excitement & you want to experience social life. But I agree go to Osaka. If tokyo is like Quebec then osaka is like toronto. More laid back
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If you guys insist I'll give Osaka serious consideration. But again I'd hate to gloss over Kyoto or Tokyo. But anyhow my 4 week stay in Seoul will be eternity compared to the Japan trip.
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Ikebukuro is probably used almost as much as shibuya? Specifically for durarara right around the station (east side) is used a lot. Kabuki-Cho in shinjuku is definitely used a lot but I couldn't tell you in what off the top of my head.
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Also as someone who lived in Kyoto and now lives in Tokyo, I would suggest spending as much time as possible in Kyoto as there is just so much stuff to do there. Tokyo there honestly really isn't that much stuff to do here other than going out to drink I feel. Lol also Osaka is only a 30 min train ride (about 5$ USD) from Kyoto so it's easy to go there for a couple hours
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@Mario I'll be home by new years unfortunately, I'll have to settle for Christmas in tokyo.
@CJay Thanks, any suggestions for Tokyo? I'm trying to avoid cliché locations for anime-related scenery. Like Shibuya.
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K-Off
@Mario The person I'm travelling with wants to spend Christmas at Disney Tokyo, and unsurprisingly nearly all places will still be open, same as NYC. Christ, I'm more worried about my wallet.
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@K-Off: Makes sense. I'd say better stick in one place for long days rather than short trips in several places. Even 10 days for those 2 places wouldn't be enough imo, well especially during Xmas since the streets will be busy and many places could be closed (I guess?)
K-Off
@Mario It doesn't seem like I'll go to Osaka, the goal is to explore Kyoto and Tokyo and much as possible for a week and a half. If I can squeeze it in there I will, but that means spending less time in Kyoto and/or Tokyo. The bulk of my trip will be in Tokyo for now.
SuperMario
Yeah, Kenshin had a whole Kyoto act, but it was more historical anw and I feel it didn't explore the city that much (more of a ruined city)
Really, only uchoten Kazoku, tatami galaxy and durarara come to mind. Are you planning to go to Osaka as well? I heard from my friend Osaka is about an hour drive from Kyoto only.
K-Off
@Anon174851 Ah good one.
@Mike Thanks. Durarara is a good suggestion, but I haven't watched Rurouni Kenshin.
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@Kaiser Sure, the story doesn't do anything for me but it's not a waste of time.
@K-Off You can do pretty much anything in Tokyo I'll bet. Anime in general aside from shows like Durarara don't emphasize the setting very much... Kyoto is more interesting, rurouni kenshin is the first thing that comes to mind.
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uchouten kazoku is a really good one set in kyoto!
K-Off
Haven't heard of it. Anyways, do you guys have any suggestions for favorite anime series set in Kyoto or Tokyo? I'm planning my itinerary and the idea is to take a lot of side by side comparison pictures from their anime depictions to RL. I have YuruYuri, SYD, Detective Conan, and various KyoAni spots in mind, but my brain isn't remembering others.
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I'm considering finding some War/military manga to read, has anyone read Gunka no balthazar? Is it worthwhile?
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@Anon164960, They announced a second season for it so they ain't done with that trainwreck yet.
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So Rewrite took the "Bad End" route. Interesting. Their choice, not the show of course which was a freaking mess from start to finish.
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Ah, reminding me that I have not left Ireland since 2012 when I went to Rome. Although I have floated around the idea of maybe going to Slovakia.
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@Mario Thanks, although I'll be working the whole time I'm at Seoul with sundays off. Expecting about 40-50 hours of work a week. Sucks that your trip got canned, in the Winter there's no place you'd want to be other than southern California.
SuperMario
Congrats K-Off. Hope you enjoy the trip. I myself originally planned to go to US on this December but now the plan got wrecked. Should be fun spending Xmas in Japan especially
K-Off
Got my international drivers permit from AAA today, and it also looks like I'm stuck with over half the travel fees since I've signed myself off the agency plan. It's now official, I'm going to Seoul and then spending my christmas holidays in Tokyo. Been a long time since I left the country, last time was in 2011.
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That was me Mario
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@Masky: it wasn't, but Gui Niao did mention the pipe has multi-purpose functions: do far he uses the pipe to write, to create a hallucination smoke, to make an actual bushfire, to open the lock, now to be a sword-pipe. What's next? To be a wifi modem? to be a boomerang? to shapeshift into an umbrella?
Masky
So Thunderbolts Fantasy :D Totally called the pipe being a sword (assuming it wasn't shown earlier and I just forgot about it)
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@Anon146321, typos are hard to avoid when you write fast. What's really important to is that the point gets across, which it did.
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Medium not meduim
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I wonder if trolls consider people explaining why their trolling is bad a successful trolling .-. I mean, my experience is that most of trolls aren't really smartest or most creative of people, I think most of them are happy if people just talk about them.
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@Anon141285, oh come on boy. Put some effort into trolling. You need to get people to actual think you believe what you are saying. Here you have already messed up because you use the old "Chinese cartoons" which is supposed to piss of anime fans because it suggests you are ignorant of the meduim but then you reference the nukes showing full well you know where they are from. You have failed.
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Chinese cartoons proof that two nukes weren't enough. Or were too much depending on the perspective
SuperMario
oh, talking about teenage horror female movie, make sure to check out Raw whenever its available online. That is one hell of a fun cannibal ride!
SuperMario
my point is we tend to spend our stupid 20s phase feel like its wasted, but really it does help develop our hobby/sense/wisdom, whatever it is.
Kaiser Eoghan
I find myself now that I've grown up wanting to punch kid characters from horror films lol
Kaiser Eoghan
About the watching stories with younger female characters...its starting to feel like I shouldn't be or that it doesn't feel appropriate, actually sort of awkward/skeevy.
SuperMario
True enough. But remember that even Quentin Tarantino had his 20s basically just a movie-clerk, watched movies like a maniac and he made that classic Pulp Fiction when he was like 33
Kaiser Eoghan
Looking back It feels dickish that I laughed reading NHK.
Kaiser Eoghan
I mean look at Re-life, I mean ow, everyone went through that.
Kaiser Eoghan
I think we'll find that stage where we'll get irritated by stories reminding us of our stupid 20s phases eventually just as some teenage focused anime/manga annoyingly remind us of being teens.
Kaiser Eoghan
In terms of anime/manga, much as I'd still see myself liking NHK I could see myself getting more frustrated with the lead character now being in my early 30s.
Kaiser Eoghan
In the past year I've been looking at hentai/ecchi imageboards not as often as I used to.
Kaiser Eoghan
Judy Delphy and Juliette Binoche have aged surprisingly well...
Ah its less fancying/finding them attractive, moreso taking notice of them.
SuperMario
I can understand the others but Meryl Streep too? Man, you're aging I can tell
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Julianne Moore, Isabelle Huppert, Meryl Sreep, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: like whom if I may ask?
SuperMario
But I'm always interested in women issues myself so Mustang just hit me hard
Kaiser Eoghan
Its a sign of me aging I guess too. I'm noticing older actresses too now where I wouldn't have in the past.
SuperMario
Looking forward to Under the Shadow too, also really keen to see how The Bad Batch would turn out to be
SuperMario
Strangely I've become more engaged with teen, coming-of-age films recently (well, Aku no Hana is sort of teen drama as well),but yes, old man's psyche is my thing too
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Synecdoche, the passenger, winter light, anomalisa , wild strawberries , la notte for example.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: The day is coming where drama centred around twentyboppers won't have the same level of effect on me. Had I seen buffalo 66 5 years ago I would have been all over it. Old man/middle age angst is becoming more my thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm honestly having a harder time getting into films that focus on young girls/teenagers.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Theres only a few upcoming films left I'm looking forward to, Elle, Valley violence, whispering star and under the shadow.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I appreciate mustang for the issue it deals with and addresses but I felt it predictable and the drama didn't hit harshly enough. It feels like an academy/oscars film.
SuperMario
Kaiser: remember I mention about watching those 96 Cannes line-ups? I think I will get to watch them soon, since I downloaded all the movies already
SuperMario
@Kaiser: btw, you hated Mustang? It's also one of my favorite film so far.
SuperMario
but maybe think of it that way will make the manga more entertaining...
SuperMario
You see Aku no Hana as a dark comedy? haha I'm speechless
Kaiser Eoghan
Like you Mario I don't care for heavy infodumping and that took me out of the new world.
Kaiser Eoghan
Bebop had that problem for me in that I saw outlaw star and trigun first.
Kaiser Eoghan
I still feel aku no hana is a guilty pleasure manga, a crazy dark comedy or maybe thats just my humour.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hataraku had me laughing up to episode 7, while Amagi felt stale from the start.
Looking back on Baccano I still like Claire and Russo but the other characters not so much, the main series is enjoyable enough but the extra episodes hold back the score.
I've never watched Habane straight through although I have finished the series. Ghost vs ergo? Ergos final episode wrecked the show.
Topgavin
I thing Hataraku was a lot more consistent, but Amagi had some standout episodes. For me the OVA, the pirate ship episode and the school episode were great. "Simply put, we have to go lewder" is one of my fav quotes
K-Off
How was that by the way? I never bothered to watch Amagi Brilliant Park all the way through because I felt so cynical about it after the first two episodes. Hataraku Mao Sama on the other hand was genuinely refreshing for the first half of the season.
SuperMario
In other news, The Eccentric Family is getting 2nd season. Now I'm filled with joy
SuperMario
Still feel bad to compare an 1-cour series (Baccano) to an 4-cours one. But in this case Baccano would take my cake.
Topgavin
I reckon The Devil is a Part Timer vs Amagi Brilliant Park would be a fun one, and I wouldn't know which would win.
AidanAK47
Baccano vs Durarara might make a good matchup. Baccano is the better one but Durarara does seem to be more popular.
Syndrome
Yeah it is a bit obvious and they dont share much in common anyway. Just that they are two of the most well known anime out there. I enjoyed NGE more than Cowboy Bebop, but I agree on the later beeing overall a better anime.
AidanAK47
Oh look. Berserks Manga is on Haitus again. Muira...just..at this point I ain't even mad. Just disappointed.
SuperMario
Well, new post on Flowers of Evil is out. Come eat it up.
SuperMario
@Syndrome: was thinking about that match-up (NGE vs Cowboy Bebop) but isn't it too obvious? I always intend to pick something that caught you guys off-guard haha
AidanAK47
@Syndrome, no contest. Cowboy Bebop wins outright.
Syndrome
On a serious note, for related anime, I would be curious about something like Ergo Proxy against Ghost in the Shell
Syndrome
Go for NGE vs Cowboy Bebop and watch the world burn
SuperMario
Yeah, I agree it's one of the main factors, but even so From the New World had a higher grade too. But I wouldn't pick Haibane Renmei against From the New World if I didn't think it had a chance to win. Those who loved the former really loved it, while people more appreciate From the New World than actually love it. Well, can't beat the consensus I guess.
Topgavin
I'd say a major reason for that would be the popularity difference. On MAL, Haibane has a following of 110k people, with FTNW having 270k.
SuperMario
I'm personally quite disappointed with the results. Will try harder for a more competitive match-up next time
AidanAK47
@Mario, if you say so. I say by now the victor has been decided.
SuperMario
@Aidan: we don't need to sticky the Versus Show again, as I will put up the Aku no Hana post tomorrow anyway
AidanAK47
Yeah the brightness got a bit much in some places after episode 18.
Topgavin
I thought the brightness was done well in the episode with Rem sitting beside Subaru's bed and her smiling/crying, but yeah this was too much
SuperMario
@anon125687: my thought exactly. While I was watching it I thought to myself that it's too bright!!
Anonymous125687
Why do final episodes overdo the blur effect and fuzzy lighting its literally over dramatic cancer. Just let it end normally ffs
afgm
Well, it's hard, since it doesn't really feel finished, so even if you know it will eventually end well if given a chance, you can't really put your full confidence behind those bets
AidanAK47
Got a bit long winded in that review and yet I feel like I really didn't get across what makes the series so good.
AidanAK47
Well that's the Re:Zero review written up. I will get to work on 91 days next and maybe Prisms Illya maybe after that. Lost all entuasim after they messed up that last episode in Illya. Overall it's been pretty disappointing.
AidanAK47
As for that twist. I think they could work it easily into a first episode. The impact would still be there for people marathoning the thing in the future and it would be a good "Oh Shit!" moment to start the second season. If they jump ahead a bit to a certain moment it would actually make for a great opener.
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