Posted by psgels on 25 December 2007 with categories: Les Miserables - Shoujo Cosette


Angedemystere, you were right. Thenardier gets more than enough closure for this episode. His final plan was way more desperate than I imagined, when compared to his cunning plan of the third arc, where he basically tries to blackmail Marius with all the things he knows about Jean Valjean. Not really the most solid plan. Humans can indeed change, and Thenardier shows how this can happen for the worst. I really like how he and Marius clear up the misunderstandings they had, and Marius even finds out that it was indeed Jean who saved him. It seems that at that time, Thenardier mistook the unconscious Marius that Jean was carrying for a dead body, belonging to a person that Jean had robbed and killed afterwards. When Thenardier gets arrested, Marius also sees the guy’s face again, clearing up the misunderstanding he had that Jean killed Javert.

I’m surprised that Javert didn’t arrest Marius, though. He should have recognized him, though I guess that if he wanted to have Marius arrested, he would have done so long ago. I think that he has already forgotten about Marius’s crimes, just like with Jean. In this episode, it also happens: Jean takes off, without notifying anyone where he went. Marius can now take care of Cosette more than enough, so he decided to go back to the countryside, and help the poor farmers with their work. Marius, Cosette and everyone else don’t agree with this, though, and spend the episode, searching for him. The final episode will probably deal with this, and clear up the distance that Jean has kept in front of everyone.

One thing I’m really hoping for is to see Cosette, return to Montreul-sur-Mer for one final time, and meet Thenardiére and Azelma. It feels like the two of them could use a tiny bit more attention, and I’d love to see Cosette and Thenardiére make up after all these years, not to mention that they haven’t found out about Eponine’s death yet.

Anyway, I finally managed to catch up with everything, and I can now finally read the comments on episode 48 without the fear of being spoiled. ^^;

Merry Christmas everyone, and I hope you have a great time. :)

18 Responses

  1. angedemystere says:

    Wait, this statement confuses me: “Humans can indeed change, and Thenardier shows how this can happen for the worst.” What do you mean exactly?

  2. Irene says:

    I’m absolutely dying to know what Javert says to Marius after Marius is all “OMG YOU’RE ALIVE. O.O” Also what Javert says to Thenardier when he’s being all intimidating. And…everything Javert says in general. Because I’m so happy they got Javert’s entrance exactly right in this episode. xD

  3. angedemystere says:

    I know! *squee* Sadly, I don’t think he’ll be making another appearance. *cries* Ah well.

    I KNEW that sash was going to come into play. It substitutes the ring that Thenardier got off of Marius in the book. His expressions were pretty funny when Marius debunked all his tricks and such. But, man, I SO called the Javert-tailing-Thenardier-to-Marius’-house bit. Woot!

    Next episode looks like both the end of our beloved convict as well as this series. So sad to see such things come to an end, but that is life. *sigh* I do hope that this series won’t be totally ignored by the companies that get these animes subbed and dubbed into English. I actually thought I saw subbed versions of ep. 9 and 10 somewhere, but maybe they weren’t legit. I dunno, I hope they were, but I’ll look into that later.

    I thought it kinda random that Valjean would go back to helping people and manual labor. He’s supposed to wither away from not being with Cosette, but maybe that occurs in the last episode.

  4. Irene says:

    Actually, Thenardier takes a scrap of cloth off of Marius’s jacket in the book, much like what he does with the sash in the anime. I believe he takes a ring off Marius in the musical. xD;

    POSSIBLE SPOILER WARNING?

    And yeah, I think Valjean’ll wither away next episode. Either that, or it’ll be a gushy happy squishy warm ending worthy of Disney. Which I definitely hope doesn’t happen. T_T

  5. angedemystere says:

    Oh. =P My bad. ^^,

    Nah, those shots with Valjean in his cottage looked pretty dark and gloomy which I think foreshadows his end. But maybe you’re right, and they’re just trying to fool us. Meh. He’s having a lot of flashbacks of his encounter with the bishop, though, so I think that’s another point in favor of the real ending. But it’s still odd that he’d be withering away, since he’s getting all that outdoor exercise. Yeah, yeah, EMOTIONALLY withering away, I know, but . . .

    I am rather curious how the group manages to track him down. Oh, wait, Cosette receives a letter in the trailer that might be from him. Nevermind.

    Is it weird that I am still somewhat disappointed that that was the last of Javert? Don’t get me wrong, he went out with a bang and it was awesome. (Probably even more if I knew what they were freakin’ SAYING.) *deep breath* But . . . I guess my silly inner fangirl really wants Javert and Valjean to have one last talk, as sort of an ultimate reconciliation. But that’d be both cliche and uncanon, I guess. After all, the idea is that Valjean already forgave Javert for everything, and since Javert seems to be all right, too, there’s no real need to talk. Still . . . blah, I’m down with a case of fangirl-syndrome.

  6. psgels psgels says:

    “Wait, this statement confuses me: “Humans can indeed change, and Thenardier shows how this can happen for the worst.” What do you mean exactly? ”

    Well, the guy has lost all his former comrades, he’s resorting to petty thieves right now, and then he sees Cosette andJean and comes up with a random plan that has nearly no chance to succeed, and doesn’t even realize this. To me, he looked pretty pathetic in this episode.

    “I’m absolutely dying to know what Javert says to Marius after Marius is all “OMG YOU’RE ALIVE. O.O””

    While I can’t remember what Javert said afterwards, his first line to Marius was “You look like you’ve seen a ghost.” ^^;

  7. angedemystere says:

    Teehee!!! Excellent!

    I guess I can see what you mean: Thenardier has pretty much gone downhill since losing his inn, and he’s gotten more vicious and nasty with every plan he conceives. I also noticed that his hands seemed quite pudgy. But maybe that’s just me. Or his costume. Man, that costume was ridiculous, no wonder Javert noticed him. XD

    I’m actually dying to know what Thenardier said to Javert as he was being taken away. Must have been something pretty bad to provoke Javert like that. Doesn’t Thenardier realize by now that EVERYONE IS TALLER THAN HIM AND COULD KICK HIS BUTT NO MATTER WHAT?

  8. angedemystere says:

    Oh, about those subbed versions of 9 and 10, they’re actually subbed in French. Oops. But I’m trying to watch ep. 9 with them anyway, since I took a little French, and it’s better than nothing.

  9. angedemystere says:

    *groan* Since no one else is compelled to say anything, I’ll add just one more post in answer to something in psgels’ review:

    You were wondering why Javert didn’t arrest Marius. Well, by the time this incident occurred, the government had granted amnesty to all survivors involved in the uprising. So Javert would have no reason to arrest Marius except maybe for the fact that Marius neglected to uphold his part of the deal in the Gorbeau case. I very much doubt that that would remain an issue, though, and Javert would probably be willing to put that behind him, especially considering what has happened to him. Besides, why worry about some dolt lawyer (yes, Javert does call him that ^^,) who didn’t fire a pistol when he was supposed to, when you’ve got a former Patron-Minette member who is clearly up to no good in going to a rich man’s house wearing a tacky disguise?

  10. Irene says:

    Yeah, I love how Javert just dismisses Marius as a bit soft in the head after the Gorbeau fiasco. xD “Dolt of a lawyer” is one of my favorite lines in the book, ranking up there with such classics as “Would you like my hat?” and “What pantaloons! what energy!”

  11. angedemystere says:

    You HAVE to tell me where he says that last one. Sheesh, the things Hugo made his characters say. I’m still thinking of drunk!Gillenormand’s line about slippers. XD

  12. Kim says:

    SPOILER FOR EPISODE DIALOGUE

    Thenardier: It doesn’t matter how many times you catch me, I’ll just break out again! You can’t stop me!
    Javert: Then I’ll just catch you again every time you escape; until you realise your wrong ways and become a proper person! (turns away) Thenardier, people can change.

    This is the rough dialogue.

  13. Irene says:

    @angedemystere: It depends on your translation, I guess. xD I’m using the one by Charles Wilbour – that last one’s said by Tholomyes’s friends when we first meet him.

    @Kim: Thanks! Although I’m not entirely sure how to feel about those lines. xD

  14. angedemystere says:

    Irene: Oh, yeah, I found it. My translation uses “trousers,” I think, which is not as amusing. Yet it still somewhat is. ^^

    Okay, it’s almost 1:35 in the morning so I’m just gonna be total random here: Marius’ wallpaper makes it very difficult to find the break between Javert’s pic and Thenardier’s pic. Okay, goodnight!

  15. Jellylorum says:

    God, this is crazy. I only saw parts on youtube, and I saw that ominous sunrise thing. I was all like WTF. Javert SHOULD HAVE DIED, for God’s sake. I can’t understand the creators. They slaughtered all the cute bishounens on the barricade, and let Javert live. WHY?

  16. Sacket says:

    Heh… in the musical Javert commits suicide because he can’t bear to live in a world with Jean ValJean who’s reformation has destroyed Javert’s entire construction of how the world works.

  17. angedemystere says:

    Yeah, but that isn’t the real reason he commits suicide in the novel. He offs himself because he can neither send Valjean off to prison (in accordance to the law) nor let him go free (in accordance to his conscience). Unable to reconcile the situation, he chooses to eliminate himself from the equation, and since letting Valjean go is against the law, he acts as his own executioner. There’s more to his internal debate, but I think that’s what it boils down to decision-wise.

  18. Next episode looks like both the end of our beloved convict as well as this series.Javert SHOULD HAVE DIED, for God’s sake. I can’t understand the creators.

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  • Raggers
    (Saturday, Mar 28. 2015 02:19 AM)
    @Aidan: true, but I don’t think the level is anywhere close to a true shounen. And once the basic rules are established it’s strategising and straight out fighting.
    I’d be more inclined to call it seinen with shounen elements than actually shounen.
  • Emma
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 09:59 PM)
    Good all action finale to cap off Garo there, went out with a bang, though thing is I have no idea where their going to go with this when the movie, second season comes along, this seems like a pretty good point to finish.
  • Emma
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 05:35 PM)
    I think that just about all the manga serialized in ultra jump feel less seinen than those serialized in other seinen magazines.
  • AidanAK47
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 05:19 PM)
    There’s plenty of in battle explaining. I don’t think there’s been a battle without in battle explaining. You got the first time villain that ends up a good guy. You got powerups and levels of quinques. There’s a ton of shounen elements.
    Just because something has gore does not make it seinien. Deadman wonderland is Shounen and it has just as much gore and torture.
  • Raggers
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 02:52 PM)
    @Emma: ah, yes.
    @Aidan: How so? A variety of weapons and abilities does not turn something into a shounen battle manga.
    I’d need a lot more random in-battle explaining secret powers to your opponent, and a lot more mercy to not consider it seinen.
    Also, torture, balls and limbs being chopped off as a sick joke, slicing people in half without warning, breaking half their bones…
  • AidanAK47
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 12:44 PM)
    I felt that the story became too shounen battle manga When at first it was portrayed as seinien. Especially with the quineqes and such.
  • Emma
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 12:06 PM)
    @Raggers: His past with the old lady ghoul where he was castrated =<
  • Raggers
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 05:48 AM)
    @Emma: which moment is that?
  • Emma
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 05:26 AM)
    @Raggers : And in one moment, a rather disturbing development.
  • Emma
    (Friday, Mar 27. 2015 05:24 AM)
    @Raggers: Actually, thinking it over you’ve got a point there, As I had said I’ve been marathoning re and come to think of it, it is more enjoyable to do so that way.

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