Posted by psgels on 10 May 2008 with categories: Amatsuki

Well, we can already see the results of 92JeyRfcya, YS2YSUOe1cLtf, and YnXmHqtxqS being arrested. It’s been 24 hours, and there’s still no Amatsuki 06 on Share to be found. I can only guess (and thank) where the person who uploaded a version on Tokyo Toshokan got his from, but it seems that all other share-uploaders have become scared of being arrested themselves.

I’m not claiming that the illegal file-sharing is right. The reason why I still use programs as Share and Bittorrent is simply because they’re the easiest and most consistent ways to get anime. Once anime companies come with a way that can beat these, I’ll most likely switch to them. The thing is, however, that there are still people who don’t realize the irony of trying to solve illegal file-sharing with violence. Take this analogy: suppose you have a dog that doesn’t behave, and you kick it every time it does something it’s not supposed to do. Obviously, the poor thing won’t instantly turn tame, and instead you’re turning it into a wild beast.

There’s more to that than just that analogy, though. To quote Alafista, the three share-uploaders have been charged of uploading “anime like Macross, Gundam and Code Geass”. In other words, the well-known series. The thing with these shows, however, is that there’s a large enough fanbase for these shows for fans to find some kind of way to watch them in a safe, though slightly more troublesome way. Remember when that cease and desist-letter was sent to the fansubbers of Death Note? Well, I’ve never seen Death Note episodes being subbed as fast as those final two.

And indeed, Kanokon, a wildly popular show (gee, I wonder why…) arrived today on Tokyo Toshokan just as scheduled, while Amatsuki had to wait a day. And I guess that waiting a day isn’t that bad, but what about the series that are even less popular than Amatsuki? I don’t want to imagine how long the raws for Himitsu or Crystal Blaze will show up. Or the worst of all: Porfy no Nagai Tabi and Kaiba.

So, basically what the anime executives are trying to do right now is destroying a major source of international promotion for the more obscure and less mainstream series, who actually NEED this kind of attention, while the popular series are hardly affected at all and just sell themselves anyway. Imagine if the Japanese authorities would continue to smash down the illegal file-sharing circuit: all we’d get to see then are Code Geass and Kanokon, while all the other series die a slow death without ever getting the chance of being recognized. (no offence to those who love Code Geass and Kanokon, of course)

Anyway, please excuse this rambling. About this episode: Amatsuki has just kicked xxxHolic out of my top-3 of this season, and that doesn’t say that xxxHolic has become bad by all means. I don’t know exactly what it is with this series, but it consistently has me edged at the screen. There are hardly any weak moments. I really feel that the dialogue draws me in like no other, even though I only understand 50% of it. Amatsuki realizes full well that its main character is an idiot, and makes perfect use of that.

30 Responses

  1. L.A says:

    If this is true, you won’t be able to watch more than half of animes from now on unless someone else uploads instead of them(which is a suicide)
    I don’t use Shares or Whinny to watch animes so it doesn’t really matter to me.
    And I know it sounds harsh, but I think it was a right thing that they get arrested anyway.
    My only complain would be that DVDs are too expensive!

  2. Kurisu says:

    That’s not “harsh”, it’s *disgusting*.

  3. kuromitsu says:

    The problem is that executives simply don’t want to accept that times have changed, and they’re clinging to a business model that obviously doesn’t work anymore. I’m not saying filesharing and piracy is right – far from it. Piracy IS a serious problem. But there’s also the fact that Japanese anime DVDs are ridiculously expensive with very little content, too many shows are aired after midnight, and fans in other countries are very often expected to buy even 13+ episode shows based on reviews and first episodes. Companies are clinging to outdated business models that just don’t work anymore. (Why can’t more companies do what the creators of South Park did? Streaming full episodes in good quality for free, supported by ads. I definitely don’t mind ads.)

    Besides. So they’ve got Winny and Share. There’s still Perfect Dark. If they get to Perfect Dark, people will find something else. At least for popular shows. *sigh* (I wonder how long it will take for Nabari no ou to appear on Perfect Dark…)

  4. Lika says:

    Hoestly, I think the companies are just shooting themselves in the foot with this as without bittorent, there would be no way for me to watch any of my anime and get hooked. No shows to get hooked on, no money to spend on their merchandise. Duh. While I don’t support illegal bootlegging, until they can find a better method of supplying their anime to those in other countries, I’m going to keep on being illegal.

    And, um, LA, would you say the same thing if those that wre arrested DID affect how YOU watched your anime?

  5. Papilo says:

    The companies must follow Gonzo or they will fail to decrease the piracy activity. Online distribution is a reality and the cost to provide a subtitle isn’t so high.
    Is sad to say but we only knows most of the “underground” anime, such as Kaiba, because of that kind of piracy. So, or we change the current anime business model or only the blockbuster animes will be know here in occident.

  6. L.A says:

    I think I would say the same thing, yes. Honestly how can i complain?
    This case won’t stop people using Shares and Whinny and I understand that illegal uploadings will continue to happen in the future. But what we must realize is that people who are working in anime productions/markets aren’t just simply some nice volunteers who make stuff to entertain us for free. If we pay nothing to see animes then I think we have no rights to demand either.

    well this is only my personal opinion. I apologize if my comments gave anyone offense. That was not intentinal at all. And Im not forcing anyone to believe it my way, so you can believe in what you belive…

  7. Azalin says:

    It’s just that they could be earning more money, if they promoted sales in other countries or moved to online distribution.

    I live in Bulgaria, where anime isn’t sold. No matter how they stomp on piracy, I can’t start buying legal stuff, unless it is actually sold to me. I wouldn’t even know about anime’s existance without the pirates.

  8. Lika says:

    But see (this isn’t aimed at you, but at the company), they DON’T get any money. The only money they get is from the sales of the DVDs and merchandise off of the show. And they only way to get money off of that is if people buy them, and the only way people would buy them is if they like it and the only way people would like them is if they are able to WATCH it in the first place. Honestly, even though I don’t have much money, I’ve spent over a thousand of dollars on manga, figurines, DVDs, and posters on stuff that I like in where nearly all (except for, I think, Shaman King, CCS, and Pokemon) I’ve found through bittorent, or online scanlations. The two are illegal, obviously, but where they not there, there would be no way for me to spend all that money.

  9. yoshi927 says:

    I agree about the piracy thing. There’s just no better way. What about a solution like iTunes, only that doesn’t suck? They could upload the raw versions and a version with subtitles, and then have people pay a bit for it. They can make revenue off of it, and still make merchandise sales. Well, there’s probably a flaw in my model there.

  10. Wyrdwad says:

    Honestly, this is why I think Gonzo is incredibly smart for joining up with BOST TV for Tower of Druaga and Blassreiter:

    Legal downloads of anime at reasonably good quality, released online with English subtitles on the day each episode initially airs in Japan, and costing only $2 per episode.

    This is pretty much perfect, and if more companies did this, there would be no need for piracy whatsoever. I recommend everyone support Gonzo’s efforts here, so we see more of this in the future.


  11. Kurisu says:

    If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.

  12. Denizen says:

    Adapt or Die, anime companies. This was another step towards perishing.

  13. Aegd says:

    “If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.”

    Care to elaborate? Because last time I checked piracy was just another word for copyright infrigement of software.

  14. Aegd says:

    I forgot to say; and has also become a term that also encompasses digital media and music.

  15. Mark says:

    Good to see the crack downs start up again !

    I buy almost all of the anime I have here in my home (hundreds of dvd’s) YES its expensive,as is ANY hobby.

    No one ever said it would be cheap.You try working hard for years on something like Stranja,pouring your heart and soul and money and sweat and blood and tears into it,only to see the ‘community’ stab you in the back and give it away for free.More and more great series are not being licensed because the distrib’s know that more and more people will just download it,promsiing to themsleves to buy it later,but most wont.Years ago,it would be insane and unheard of to see a series like Bakamatsu NOT get a full and proper license(YES god forbid,including a decent DUB),now what have we got ?? Two years out,and I am still waiting,cash in hand to buy the 6 or 7 dvd’s at 25 to 35 a crack.But,I cant because the ‘community’ (thieves,and hypocrits who have none to little respect for the hard work of others) in its infinite wisdom has helped ruin that possiblity.Any market for it was swallowed whole by the people that downloaded all those terabytes of files) More proof of this is in the fact that DVD sales are dropping like a rock,year after year,as more and more people,get clued into the torrents and megaupload,etc…as well as have the ability to get cheap high speed internet.

    I am likely older then most(39),have a job,a home,a family,and have worked hard for many years.I understand what it means to put a tremendous amount of work into something,and want to see payback from it.I have been watching this scene develop into the Monster it is for two decades plus.It needs to be killed.I dont need to download more then 2 or 3 eps to know if a series is worth my cash,most honest folks dont.Places like Boxtorrents and DAnime,and all the others
    need to die.

    There are better ways to prom ote lesser known series like Kaiba,and giving all 13 away for free via URESHI,ETC,is NOT IT !

    That many subbers are now offering HD res files is a insult on more then a few levels to the artists,and the companies making this beautiful art possible.

    These companies are in business,they are not a charity,they employ many,but every year that number drops.

    I hope to see more of this type of crackdown go on.Its out and out theft,PERIOD,and needs to see more intervention from the law.

    Some people in any community only learn the hard way,and if that means throwing them in prison and letting them out with a criminal record,then so be it.

    WTF ever happened to personal responsibility in todays world !!?!? Can’t do the time,DONT do the crime,period.Sharing this stuff,is quite plainly illegal. Obviously many in the scene have no clear concept of it.

    I was trying to figure who to adress this to,untill I noticed the name of your BLOG…..S C A B….

    Where I come from,that has a very bad connotation.Its starting to make sense
    now,given your attitude towards others
    hard work.I guess though,that I should
    not be surspised at the feedback on stuff
    like this,given the lack of almost any
    moral compass in todays younger people.

    I have discussed this with many,and age plays a huge role in the average epinion.Under 16-25 seems shocked/surprised at the crackdown,and call it ‘wrong’,those of a slightly older age group think for the most part very,very differently on it.

    Signed: Just Woke,up spelling mistakes and all….

  16. yoshi927 says:

    Um. What does it matter what the older and younger age groups think of it? Better question; what does it matter what ones you talk to? You can pick any two things and correlate them perfectly, as long as you have an inadequate sample.

    Other than that, you have a point. I disagree on a few levels, of course, but I think more people would take you seriously if you didn’t read like a Hillary Clinton supporter on a bad day. ^_^

  17. Kurisu says:

    Aegd, Wikipedia is full of shit and lies because everyone can edit it. It is also abused for propaganda and US-centric. Well, you are even pointing to the wrong article… Is anime software? No, it isn’t.

    copyright infringement -> copying without permission – which is not theft

    piracy -> copying (without permission) OR stealing goods AND selling them for profit

    Mark, you’re so full of shit, it’s not funny anymore. I guess you’re just too old to understand the world of today, so I’m not even going to bother explaining anything. It’s just funny how much you know about the current status of fansubbing even though you’re not watching them… I guess we both know who you are working for.

  18. Leshante says:

    1. Piracy – Appropriate intellectual property to gain monetary profit (selling bootleg items in convention)
    2. Copyright Infringement – Disseminate intellectual property without the consent of the rightholders but involve no monetary gain (fansubbers)

    Of course the legal statutes consider both piracy and copyright infringement illegal. But there are differences between the sprirt and letter of the law. If you really want to delve into naunces, look up the evolution of accounting regulations from the 90s up to Auther Anderson / the Sarbane Oxley Act.

    Getting back into fansubbing. I am also a bit older than typical American fans, albeit not as old as Mark #15. I have seen the progression of anime from early 90s and on. Yes, the digital revolution since ’02 has morphed into rampant and uncontrolled distribution of Japanese animation, and I agree with Mark about the studio’s inability to capture revenue and profit. HOWEVER, it is irrelevant whether it is equitable for the studios to get those profit.

    The fact is the japanese studio will never be able to capture those artifical profit. The tech genie is out and the business model with DVD as underlying linchpin is obsolete. The Japanese studios are fighting the ridiulous battles Sony/EMS fought on digital music circa 90s, and the more litigations the music studios file against hapless (but “criminal”) end-users, the more it pissed off the general mass. When Ipod and Itune were released, what happened? How come Steve Job and Mac are now the indisputed leader in digital music and have sold billions of $$$ in itune? How come Zune suck so bad it is consider a cruel joke? How much the music studios are now desperately trying to catch up on Mac with little success?

    In truth, the CD/DVD business model is now relegated into an auxillary source of revenue. Since the dawn of time, entertainers make bulk of their revenues on live performance and merchandises. As for anime, toy, figurines, console games, manga, light novel, etc will be the future for the studio’s survival. Will IP infringement continue? Of course, but the studios have to abandon the notion that they can capture all the THEORATICAL profit that’s floating around in the net.

    I personally admire those who bought all the licensed DVD. But don’t be so sanctimonious and demand that everyone have to buy DVDs or else they be damned for eternity. I bought thousand $$ of manga / legit anime figures / games. I also contribute to the welfare of the anime industry. And YES, I have ~5 terabit of dvd rip.

    One more point – There are millions of Chinese / Korean population in Japan, and the anime culture in China and Korea is as entrenched, if not more so, than the United States. Among the Chinese anime community, there are more than a few brave souls who will insure an endless supply of HD raw regardless of what the Japanese polices and bureaucrats can come up with.

  19. psgels psgels says:

    Whoa, I must thank everyone for such detailed responses. Though Kurisu: please refrain from cursing at others when you simply don’t agree with them, okay? ;)

    Also Mark: you raised some good points, until you came with the SCAB-reference. I had no intention at all to make it sound like such a word when I came up the title, nor did I feel like checking it for any innuendo.

    Also, I think there’s another reason why the demographics between 16 and 25 are more inclined to support illegal file-sharing, in that they have generally less money than your average adult with a stable job.

    This of course isn’t meant as an excuse. I’m well aware that I’m hypocritical, and the purpose of this article wasn’t to lament the fact that my source of anime has slowed down. Instead it was to highlight that the current executives need to stop biting the hand that feeds them, and instead should try to match their business model to the current situation, like others have suggested. If they don’t, then the endless amount of piracy will only continue, because most anime-fans won’t just stop downloading, just because you ask them to.

  20. Papilo says:

    Surely isn’t a matter of age. In my case I am 32 years old and in my country is hard to find anime stuff unless I import it. Well, I do have a Lodoss War OVA DVD Box and most of the blockbuster anime movies, such as Cowboy Bebop, Chihiro and Metropolis, but the point is to sustain my hobby here I have to afford three times the normal price of a DVD sold here in my country. But I bought all anime stuffs that i liked when they come to my country.

    Anyway, if we don’t want to see a crises such as the one in the music industry we must find other ways to explore anime. Gonzo is one step ahead to prevent a eminent colapse because a new business model is a need in this era of high connectivity. People can watch a video in real-time and a full DVD can be downloaded in just a few minutes. Most of people don’t do piracy because they can’t afford, but most of them do it because is fast, reliable and easy to do. So, if you turns things more difficult you’re just helping piracy. Thats why software’s piracy don’t stop.

    In the music scenery, singers and bands started to provide access to free samples of new albums. Gonzo provide a free access (youtube) for Druaga and Blasstreiser, and a paid version with better quality using bost tv and crunchy. I strongly believe that this is the new reality and those who don’t follow it will fail and go to bankrupt.

  21. Solaris says:

    The real issue here is that everybody is mistaking piracy with fansub.

    Here’s an easy to understand example:

    Piracy: i take a DVD/VHS whatever, make a copy and SELL it to you. I am taking advantage of some other’s work and you spend less money to have the good you could have obtained legally.

    Fansub: i record something from a SAT, TV, or whatever other format. I work on it and make a sub, so that you can understand the speech and PRESENT it to you. I’m putting my own work into it and you don’t spend money to have what you couldn’t have before because nobody took care of your need.

    Are there some differences, aren’t there?

    The problem of the market crackdown is easy blamed on the fansub phenomenon, that isn’t even piracy to start with. The cause are pretty much all another matters. High prices, censorship, awful adaptation for younger audience, low quality, massification.

    Who wants to buy anime will continue to do that regardless of fansub or piracy, but requires quality. Even who doesn’t usually buy DVDs, spend money in related articles.
    I have plenty of original resin kits and gashapon, and mangas to start with, together with movies, but fewrer series on DVD.

    About those poor guys who were arrested. That is the worst ever tactic to deal with the problem. Why arrest three people when there are three million people committing the same “crime”, if we can cal it a crime, of course? These nazi methods only piss of people, and arent resolutive at all. “Punish one to educate one hundred” has never worked and will continue not to work. Other people simply will avoid the problem. Is Share dangerous? Let’s change software, is Japan unsure? Let’s move to Hong Kong end so on… I feel pity for those who will suffer for everybody’s sake, but i fell pitier for japanese government who gave proof to be powerless and show they’re not able to deal with their own business

    Moreover, this is a post on Amatsuki,how did we finish chatting about piracy and stuff? o.O
    Wasn’t it better to move this topic to a proper section?

  22. Denizen says:

    Well, this comment box turned into a war of stupidity.

    – Adults being ironically immature and taking the age high ground as if it ever meant anything.

    – Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, therefore it’s obviously full of lies, because everybody who edits wikipedia is a liar and only edits wikipedia to tell lies. SERIOUSLY GUYS.

    – I buy DVDs, you should too or you’re evidently satan.

    – Fansubbers are all evil people who never give anything back to anime companies, especially not free exposure or the urge to buy merchandise.

    _ _ _

    Amatsuki was good, as ever.

  23. Mark says:


    Thank you for your thoughtful feedback,and for allwing your readers to commnet.I want to apologize for my ‘scab’ comment.That was…. somewhat out of line.

    Contrary to the beliefs of some of the misinformed on here,age and education,and employment levels,can and do play a role in this situation.I used to download subbed anime
    A LOT.I regret it,and will never try to claim
    it was the correct thing to do,but thats in the past.Arresting these three people is part of a battle,that many outside the cicrles of the content creators,will likely never understand,so be it.

    Just because the other ‘3 million’ are out breaking the laws of various countries,does not mean its ok for us to do it as well.Thats twisted logic to say the least.

    Kurisu,I used to lash out like that at people that held my stance on this topic too.That was years ago,before I grew up,and went over to Japan,and lived there.Meeting others that work in the field,and saw how devestating what we are doing really is.I dont think anyone here is ‘Satan’ for not spending large portions of thier disposable income on anime dvd’s,etc.

    But I have seen how peoples behaviours change as they leave school/Uni,and go out into the workforce,and work thier butts off for years.
    No it does not mean everything,but its certainly a deciding role in the actions of those around us.

    They usually gain a much greater respect for the work of others,no matter if its some kid waiting tables in a greasy spoon,or an artist at IG.

    I belong to an Anime club,that has over 200 members.One thing we have noticed collectively
    over the 9 years,we have met,are the things I put fourth here and above in my earlier comments.We had a round table discussion
    about this a few years back and did a servey,it showed what I tried to explain.

    Punish one,to educate one hundred does work.Go to take a trip down to any court house,and see how many are NOT being arraigned…

    More and more want everything yesterday and for free,and the anonymity of an IP address
    gives people the false impression,that what they wouldnt steal at the corner store,is just fine online as its all just zero’s and one’s
    …and heck,besides,everyone else is doing it so that must make it ok…right…well right ??

    WRONG… I am constantly amazed at what passes for morals in todays world.

  24. Solaris says:

    Mark if i record a TV program and lend it to my friend i am not doing a crime.
    Fansub is (or ‘was’ i’d say) something like that.
    It’s not related to the image of a thief who steals your ferrari for money. Do you understand it? This false image is what mass media are trying to pass you to be the truth, but it’s not.
    Fansub and anime sharing is what made anime the greatest success in the whole world. Without fansub you’d know about anime the very few childrenized shows the national TVs dish up to you.
    Fansub is a direct wire to the original japanese anime culture, without the influences of the distorted western workups.
    Real piracy is different, that is the real harm to fight. But if you don’t know the difference, and want to fight fansub instead, you’d only make piracy stronger.

  25. bobofet says:

    Real Piracy
    Definitely agree with Solaris…

    Real piracy are those places which create dvd;s from downloaded material and sell it as if its legit!!!!

    When do I become a sale?
    If I hadn’t downloaded my very first anime to watch I never would have become a anime fan in the first place…..I mean with their current business model I am definitely not a sale in their books cause its not like I would get up one day head into a comic store and buy the very first anime I saw hell I didn’t even know what anime was (I thought it was all simply cartoons which I would watch on my Saturday morning TV e.g (Aladdin and Mickey Mouse) which I grew out of years before ….

    So the point there was: I am only a sale when I actually become introduced and interested in anime.

    Would this mean that the fansub I download was form of marketing?

    Hell I would never have gotten interested in anime if I watched in on Japanese tv in raw format cause I don’t speak Japanese.

    Digital Age – Young vs. Old
    I also agree with someone above…In the digital age you need to change the business model to suit the new type of customer that exist…

    What type of customer?
    The younger generation of course you know the 16-25 year olds who are used to getting information within a few clicks instead of going to the library….hell many of the older generation have also adapted to the information age…

    So what does this mean? It means I want my product quickly, reliably and as easily as possible.

    Does DVD accomplish this?
    Hell damn no. I said I want it now not while I am at my PC. Not 1 year from now or even 5 years from now.

    Lets face it other than Blassreiter and Druga Japanese anime doesn’t get released to the public that quickly….and in the information age people want to watch things almost instantaneously.

    Well guess what?
    Fansubs are the closest thing to instantaneous (at a lag of usually 3 or 4 days for most popular shows).

    Also guess what?
    I actually do watch Gonzos anime when it comes out on crunchy role cause its quicker than Fansubs…..

    Now those that want great quality can pay extra for it and those that just want to see the anime can watch the crappy quality.

    How does the above business model relate to the concept of a sale?
    Lets face it please who were never going to pay of anime never will they will probably end up enjoying another thing (that was never a sale and never will be).

    So in the Gonzo model above, those watching the crappy quality aren’t a sale anyway because, they wouldn’t have bought the anime even if it was available for 50Cents.

    But guess what? this is an extra individual that might just tell someone else about anime and maybe that other person will actually pay to watch the better quality version as it comes out on the internet.

    Why is I-Tunes popular?
    It’s a one stop shop.

    Guess what?
    Apple is selling their software and mp3player more than the music it self. Apple is selling the convenience of downloading the music having it organized and simply loading it onto your ipod.

    Concept of Value Added Sale?

    Guess what?
    After people have watched an anime, they might actually buy the manga, or the figurines or the other merchandise. If a movie is released in the cinema people might actually watch it because you are getting something that a downloaded anime wouldn’t give you a damn big screen, great sound and an outing with friends. (don’t start with the falling cinema turnover that’s only cause Hollywood aren’t bringing out quality movies that people are interested in, but that’s a different issue)

    The points anyway is that you aren’t JUST selling Anime you are selling the other value added products and services associated with anime.

    My two cents…

  26. Kagome_chan says:

    I totally agree with you. In fact, it’s already been more than a year I’ve read your blog mostly every week and I love your texts. You should be a journalist (that’s what I do). Anyway, that’s just what I was discussing with my boyfriend the other day. Piracy, in this case, is just a way to get undercover anime series to be recognized. And the end of it without any change to the broadcasting system we have now a days would be like cutting at all all ties we have with the culture. We’d only get to see what animax and cartoon network would kindly want to bring us, and that, in my opinion, is not even 5% of what I’m used to watch. Forgive my bad english for I’m brazilian, but I just couldn’t stay quiet about this issue. I love amatsuki and I’d hate if it’d just not be possible to watch again.

  27. Carendel says:

    You have to have exposure to get noticed and eventually sell things… You just can’t get around it. There is no magic pixie that will go around and put ideas in people’s heads for you you see. I would say that the japanese anime studios outta be thanking whatever passes for their god/s for dare I say it free exposure in the form of fansubs rather then the utterly foolish stomping on one of the ways to get fansubs made. Especially with the great lack of attempts to get the anime out there for people who never in their lives would have ever noticed it existed to see in a timely and decent qualitied fashion. Its like they feel that pixie exists and will spread the joy of anime for them and they don’t need no stinkin mortals to freely give them the same…

  28. Toudai says:

    You say this series keeps you on the edge of your seat, yet you couldn’t write ONE sentence about the actual episode. What a great informative blog.

  29. Ray says:

    First off im not going to read all of the comments that people have posted but In my opinion anime needs to be more accessible to the american public. If that were to occur I am sure more and more sites that live solely off of streaming anime would die off. Gonzo is releaseing episodes on the net with subs what is keeping other companies from doing the same. Many of them have copyrights in both Japan and the US, I know it doesn’t take much time and effort to sub the series and release it on the internet at the same time or even a day later when it is released or shown on tv in japan. Sadly until that occurs or something of that effect happens people are still going to pirate anime and many other forms of media.

  30. Khan says:

    I say we should all try our best to bankrupt these companies so they’ll stop with the legal actions. Seriously, I’m so sick of them expecting us to fork over money for their shitty products. Why would I haul my ass off my computer to pay for their crappy DVDs when I can get better quality material for free and for less effort?

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I'll consider golden kamuy at least.
I'm too busy with galactic heroes original to watch the remake right now and you can bet for certain i am staying far far away from mahou shoujo site.
While I won't say anythong doreikus villain reveal pretty much killed it for me. I never really watched much of full metal panic due to not finding it funny.
Just let Wixoss, Sword art and tokyo ghoul die already , its beating the dead horse at this point.
Kaiser-Eoghan in the meantime you can all content yourself with that preview.
You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
@Anon, When it's done.
They actually take work you know, not as if I can just cough them up on a whim.
Spring Preview when?
I enjoy TONS of subtitled stuff, but I have to admit...sometimes to re-winding and pausing when the dialogue gets heavy or complex.
I know Aico has a shit dub but sometimes I find myself watching in English and feeling lazy because its easier to watch more now that way.
I used to be able to marathon stuff so easily but now I can't do the 12 episodes in one go thing like I used to.
Something goes off, even after 30 minutes to an hour "Shit....have to see if something NOW....can't stop myself"
I'm not the kind of person who messes with their phone in a cinema, but at home somehow theres this moments where I just get this distracting urge to keep checking some site, E-mail, snacking, going to the bathroom too often or lie down, look at someones doujin/smut art or write something all when I'm supposed to be doing something else.
What I mean is, I'll be reading/watching something and its not boring at all, maybe even interesting, but I can't stop pausing sometimes for...reasons and it takes me longer to get through something because of this.
I know this is pretty much an effect of living in this generation but, for those of you who experience this, how do you guys deal with "distraction." Sometimes this annoys me....
@Amagi: I'm evasive of "non-old man pubs" at night , particularly late at night, I don't want to come across any "characters" I'd prefer not to encounter.
Liquor goes great after copious amounts of beef and steak
@Amagi, Considering that I am here, you probably should have expected a Fate GO review.
Wow I didn't expect a FGO review here
Well it's the reason why I never drink alcohol at home. Even if I were depressed it wouldn't change my mood so it's pointless.
I can reach a point where I feel like dreaming but none of my character traits change. Guess it always varies depending on the person. Same with my best friend, he's just get tired when drunk, but nothing else ever happens.
@Kaiser: Same here. Often go to pubs with friends at night but not only do I not want to ever get my mind "altered" by alcohol, it doesn't even work it seems. Or maybe it's the will or that I am just not influenceable.
Ah, this is just me being in grumpyKaiser mode =)
I have been drunk, I do not like it. I do like being tipsy, but hate drunk. I generally like beer because it does not muck me up as bad as harder drinks (ouzo, raki, and I absolutely despise tequila). The first time in my life I celebrated Valentine's Day was this year. Have to say that it was not too bad.
Baccardi and Vodka were the only forms of alcohol I felt didn't especially taste "off" to me.
I also dislike Valentines day for the schmaltz, insincerity, fakeness around it and the idea there has to be "a day" for it and the captilization, commercialization of emotions.
In all my thirty one years I have never been drunk and never intend to, I dislike the idea of surrendering my mind to alcohol and feeling "altered". If anything you would be safer doing marijuana.
And Guinness is massively overrated.
@Anon: I care for neither really.
Alcohol culture in a nutshell: if you like to drink sweet alcohol that actually tastes good instead of liquor that tastes like gasoline and piss, you're a pussy.
I've no interest in Irelands drinking culture /festival days much.
Its really just a day off or an excuse for 13 year olds to get drunk.
He was Welsh aswell and there weren't exactly that much snakes in Ireland to begin with.
@Mario: Its technically St Patricks day now yes. Not that I personally care for it, I got going to the parade out of my system over a decade ago, never liked the oirishness and cliches/commercialisim around it, in the end it just makes it impossible to get around the city, plus the weather is so poor its pointless going out anyway.
I saw some Irish flags around my area. Is it St Patrick day today?
I did listen to some of aico's dub, I don't think any of these people are experienced or professional voice actors.
Anon: B the beginning was too much of an awkward genre mix. I was content to just ignore aico because I'm not a fan of Bones as a studio but you're the second person to say it reminds them of some old ova.
@Anon: I enjoyed the combination of old and new with devilman, it even being able to eclipse the ovas, aswell as the experimental visual style and transgression, and as you said, the surprising emotional involvement.
So i finish, B the Beginning, Aico, Devilman( What a feel's ride). and I must say that they're far from perfect, but they remaind me of 90, early 2000 anime, that i loved so much and that is a big plus. Today's anime doesnt feel quite the same in my opinion, what are your thoughts.. Now im getting excited to watch SWORD GAI!.
While obvious an anime series, After the rain often feels like a live action film.
@Mario: Actually that does remind me, I never saw Pola X by Carax.
Miike is extremely hit or miss, but I loved how Audition minipulated the viewer with its slower first half before really taking off, most of Ichi the killer is just a perversely funny black comedy to me.
Chang-dong-Lee is refreshingly less melodramatic then other Korean directors.
Benh Zeitlin is one I'm not familiar with, but it turns out he did beasts of southern wild and I enjoy magical realism.
@Mario: I wasn't aware Carax was still alive, some sgements of holy motors work, others don't , lovers on the bridge was a more accessible film I recall.
@Fluca: okay. Kinda fixed it. I don't think we have a spoiler code so I just changed your spoiler into white color
@Kaiser: I'm checking movies from indie auteur directors that could come out this year, interested Benh Zeitlin's second movie, Lee Chang Dong's and Leos Carax's one
Would love to see Our Little Sister in anime form, actually
Although Miike directs like at least 40 feature films, I only remember his Audition and Ichi the Killer the most, both of which I have extremely mixed feeling about
Every time I here the title Aico, it makes me think its some kind of eco/environmental thing, which I know it isn't.
The fate/extra Alice character (I looked her up) looks like she belongs in rozen maiden.
The modern Japanese directors can be prolific Miike and Sono pump out more than one film a year.
And it shows, that Our little sister adaptation, that live action adaptations CAN sometimes work.
Quick fact, that action crime josei anime, Bananna fish, coming out in April is based on a manga by the writer of Our little sister's manga.
@Mario: The interest being, how he would handle something so removed from his usual style.
@Mario: Actually re-checking, its next week, The third murder , which seems very different, a courtroom drama with some philosophy in it.
I really enjoy Our Little Sister, but I think mainly because the film is entirely within my comfort zone (Slice of life manga material, about the life of these girls)
@Kaiser: Which one will you see? He now directs one movie per year so it's hard to keep track some times. I really like his style and I reckon people who like slice-of-life will enjoy his movies
@Mario: Hirokazu Koreeda has a new film out, seeing it on Friday, I've only seen Our little sister by him.
@Anon: I essentially deleted the rest of the episodes off my computer after struggling through the first, like most, maybe moreso I got very turned off by the genre mixing. Thats not to say that I'm against genre mixes though, but they have to be weird, I mean really weird.
I am not a fan of breather episodes, something most modern anime are pretty keen to insert. I hate breaking of climaxes in order to show three SoL-, fanservice- or formularic monster of the week episodes before the main plot progresses further. When I want SoL I go watch a full fleshed SoL. Aico is pretty straight forward and kinda easy to watch in one go in that regard. Nothing really new though.
Just finished Aico. Had a few downsides like most series but I enjoyed it. Felt like a classic scifi anime you'd see in the 90s.
@Anon, I watched it. Though it was mixed but a decent enough watch. It really felt like two shows hastily combined into one. Been thinking of writing a review for it and Aico once I finish Aico.
*Have you watch
Have toy watch, B The Beginning?
I would call it somewhat lightweight however, but I won't complain/level too much against it, as it is afterall, a family film.
*in my memory
Nice animation showcase aswell though I don't know how long this will really stay i my memory, though it was nice.
Although it relies on being fairly convenient, linear and simplistic, that Mary witch flower anime movie is at its strongest when visually drawing the viewer into its world and wherever it shows spectacle. I'd say its adequately charming. Fair enough.
Hakata sounds like Gangasta. A series I enjoyed, despite its massive flaws
thanks guys. I will probably give it a try. I am also watching the Castlevania anime finally. Not really worth it for me. Also I watched the first episode of Garo Vanishing Line. I can a say it was fun.
Hi guys, anyone here played Sea Bed VN? Just wondering...
@Anon1880687 - I watched a couple of episodes. Feels like a foreign series. Since it doesn't feel like an anime made in Japan. I did like the group of revengers seem to have more personality than the main leads which insinuate chemistry but doesn't go deep into it. I don't remember if they explain why one of the leads chooses to dress like a girl. Though at least they give him/her a male voice.
@KTravlos: me. Not impressed. First few eps were alright with a set of bold characters, but later the lot just goes around in circle for these characters acting cool and cool rules the day. I dropped it after episode 6
KT here. Has anybody watched Hakata Tonkotsu Ramens? Impressions?
@Vonter: It gets more serious later although I agree it's better starting this without any knowledge about the series, like I did. I just loved the tragicomical jokes and the obsessive nostalgia Bojack suffered from and neither needed nor expected any drama but it was pretty good when it happened nonetheless.
@Anon, Not really. They just wanted to find some justification for the trashy aspects for a show they liked rather than accept it.
And while I understand how obnoxious it can be, there are times when people complain about a show doesn't explain itself and then get pissed off when you try to give an explanation.
ProZD nails it on the head yet again The people who continue to make excuses for kill la kill's fan service are the same ones fapping to episodes of the show to this day
@Vonter: From what I hear, while it does have comedy, by the second season not only does it improve, but its more of a drama.
I've been watching Bojack Horseman. It's good, yet watching certain clips before the actual series made me expect a darker show. I know it's a cartoon, but some jokes reduced the impact of certain events. Though I suppose it's meant to be uplifting and not just mean spirited. It gave me some Nier and Aku no Hana vibes.
We watched the first three episodes of B the Beginning. I must say I enjoyed it. We will see how the rest goes.
*whole franchise bar Macross delta
Despite loving the mans work since I got started on anime when I was younger, I still haven't seen Kawamori's most recent Macross series despite seeing the whole franchise.
I think devilman set me up for the idea that netflix would be putting out more transgressive anime.
If i were to rank the three netflix original shows that have released so far in descending order, it would be devilman crybaby, AICO, and then B: the beginning
so i just finished binge watching AICO...give it a watch if you guys have time, it's pretty good
@Mario: A good dose of reality in that episode though.
@Mario: Well I guess I called it completely wrong on who Chihiro was lol
@Amagi: Steins gate spent far too much time on a jokey first half.
Not that I'm trashing polemical writing, I find stuff by Jean-Luc-Godard fucking funny.
Doing a giant mood piece isn't pretentious, because it probably doesn't have a concrete meaning any way.
While still keeping it with enough sophistication .
For example, doing a rant of a film will only communicate to your intellectual friends and people already in the know, the working class guy you want to inform with your societal/political/religious ideas , was probably watching a western back in the 60s/70s, just incorporate the themes into that while not sacrificing the films appeal
With regards to pretension, I think that comes into play when you have a director trying to communicate ideas but ends up becoming ridiculously, overly polemical, its better to communicate thought provoking ideas through something straight, while also remaining some distance.
I think it often happens when authors create things on the fly, at least with manga. You can see terrible forms of comedy/SoL -> drama/scifi switches among webcomics, which are usually done by "amateurs", some of them being pretty young. It's always good when a series hints or blatantly shows what it is during its first episodes/chapters. Not talking about mysteries but genres.
Usually for dramatic comedy to work I feel it needs to let the viewer know early on that the story will feature both....the sudden drama thing generally is a result where a funny film needs an ending and a story needs to be fabricated hastily.
Melodrama is like genre mixes. If it does work it can be something special, but it's really hard to write and most directors just lack the talent to do so. It's like a comedy that turns serious at some point. It CAN work, but there aren't many cases where that happens. Usually they're just alienating their comedy fans and the drama fans weren't there to begin with.
Same here
I think some really old Euro movies, latin ones especially get away with melodrama well because the acting was different and more theatrical .
If the mekodramatics can properly cast a spell on a viewer, I am open to it if the writers strong enough but in general, when I'm watching something, the best stories are the ones where the atmosphere is so assure I forget I'm watching fiction.
I know they just want to make their audience feel good but I think it's a terrible moral or idea. Especially since most people know at least one person they loved that died from such illnesses. No matter what they did or tried to do to overcome it.
Yeah exactly. Honestly most cancer movies are terrible I think. I also hate these series in which the main character, I don't know, wins a match for his cancer-ridden love and then s/he recovers.
@Amagi: Too silly for me, the psycho faces.
@Kaiser: Not using music can be a great method to illustrate serious moments I think.
I've spoken to my father about this, who recovered from cancer years ago, those kind of phrases irritate him, hr said " don't battle, fight cancer, you fucking suffer through it, then if your lucky you get through it"
I mean, again, I loved Madoka but I see how this method they used is kinda cheap. It's still better than many other series of that type. I am aready looking forward to see how terrible Magical Girl Site is, the trailer looks like a psycho face trash fest.
The really annoying thing is when some of these docs and dramas use phrases like "her battle, her FIGHT, her BRAVE fight against cancer.
I enjoyed Madoka but I know what you mean. I think I will never rewatch Madoka but I love to see certain Tutu- and Sailor Moon scenes from time to time. I think Madoka is kinda similar to netflix shows or code geass in that regard. It always ends with some evil cliffhanger to hype you up for the next episode and it throws in one shocking revelation after another for the same reason.
@Amagi: On the music thing, some documentaries do this. What I loved about Shoah and night and fog is that the directors showed the landscapes/buildings where it happened and never used music.
I mean I know how bad ww2 and other things were. I really don't need rain, sad music and lots of actor tears to realize that. It reminds me of the laughing tracks sitcoms have that tell you when you have to laugh. And newer movies have exaggerated effects as well, not a fan of that. I rather see well thought-out content than a bomb-show. Not to mention that I hate sensory overload.
Its also kind of why I can NEVER look at hentai of something I enjoyed when I was young.
Which I admit is bias and a crap opinion lol
I grew up with Cardcaptor Sakura and Sailormoon and looking into lighthearted mahou shoujo , I don't mind nanoha and tutu, but there was always the feeling madoka was corrupting something.
On dark moe, I've stopped with lol edgy when criticizing Madoka, I realize that its the equivalent to Batman porn to me, the idea of that level of a slant on a genre I went for when I was a kid.
I agree. I was interested in Schindler's List when I was ~12 or so because it was something new for me. Nowadays I realize it's not really my thing, there are many western war shows that come of as too "pathetic" to me, they feel too much like, well, Hollywood blockbusters (which is what they actually are) than a serious commetary on war or so.
@Amagi: Thats the trouble I have with Hollywood , a film about Autism like Rain man or a mental illness movie like I am Sam, these American movies never seem real and the depictions feel so hammy and inaccurate.
On the dark moe trope, rather than throwing out words on it, its the tonal inconsistency that gets to me.
Yeah the opposite is bad as well. A show can have good intentions, even lots of good ideas but still have a bad execution.
Schindler's list is a great example of this, personally I think popcorn drama/oscar baiting the holocaust is somewhat distasteful and the film comes off as comparitively ingenuinely when I've seen a couple of eastern war films by people who actually lived during the war.
And "egdy" is very much about the tone a series has and not so much the actual content. Therefore it has to be explained as well, a dark series, even one with lots of blood, isn't necessarily edgy, it depends on the stance the autor has, whom we're supposed to root for and why, how characters and scenes are depicted and the overall tone, moral and so on.
On another note, to go back to "critic proof", this is a terrible practice because it allows people to take an easy topic for a story and it become forbidden to give a bad review.
Yeah, "badly written" for example doesn't mean anything unless you're gonna illustrate how it is badly written by showing and analyzing examples from the show and explain why the writing for these scenes is weak
Thats why I like here, people actually talk about a show in some detail, even the reviewers.
An non-backed up opinion when I'm looking for a show to follow doesn't tell me anything, how am I meant to know to watch something based on a single word or sentence?
I suppose its less of a case of buzzwords and more how people don't explain anything . The reason I say I have to do a 300 word review or long opinion on something is because I feel buzzwords and one word/one sentence opinions are un-helpful.
@Amagi: And I think thats certainly an issue, the lines being bkurred between shitposting/trolling and genuine critique .
I mean there are a lot of badly written shows out there or shows that are too tryhard, but people often use these phrases as buzzwords for everything and don't state reasons for using these terms for a specific show. I see tons of "egdy" posts as soon as a series is a bit darker than the usual harem and it's hard to distinguish these pieces from actual shitposts or trolls.
It sounds better to say that I don't like something because it's too egdy, too stupid and pure pandering (when it's about moe) or "badly written" than saying that I can't relate to certain settings, characters and so one or that I've seen a certain idea too often.
@Kaiser: I think many people just don't want to admit that disliking a series is usually a subjective thing. They rather want to credit their own intelligence for not liking it.
New Boogiepop anime announced for 2018 o/
Alita, eden endless world , ghost in the shell, Lain , blame, biomega , the Japanese perfected a genre America started.
@Vonter: Well deserved oscar for the visuals definately, Deakins got his overdue reward.
Tetsuo , bubblegum crisis, cyber city oedo are other good ones as was goku midnight eye.
@Vonter: It was the rebellion bit that got me worried if they were planning some sort of follow up.
I, robot eh? I remember that one, I don't mind Will Smith but he's not convincing in a serious role.
The replicants preparing for war, took me out of the movie, since it was delivered like a footnote for your action blockbuster, kinda like how they ripped apart I, Robot.
Still I got reminded why it inspired manga and anime like Akira, Cowboy Bebop and many others. There's a lot of atmosphere, and like I said, the visual storytelling is very strong. Since there were a lot of double meanings to several shots early in in the film. The egomaniac Jesus wannabe villain felt very odd, especially his speechifying.
But I'll have to see it again with that extended cut when I'm less the victim of hype.
Theres a certain idea of....they made an OKAY blade runner sequel, it wasn't allowed to be bad or great.
@Vonter: Its a case really of, you had a four star film! Then turned it into a three star!
Then again I am interested when Denis will be going back to his arthouse films instead.
I hope they aren't going for a sequel though.
It does add to the humanity of the replicants but I felt the ending cruel on Goslings character.
Jowie was a bit fanservicey.
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