Posted by psgels on 10 May 2008 with categories: Amatsuki


Well, we can already see the results of 92JeyRfcya, YS2YSUOe1cLtf, and YnXmHqtxqS being arrested. It’s been 24 hours, and there’s still no Amatsuki 06 on Share to be found. I can only guess (and thank) where the person who uploaded a version on Tokyo Toshokan got his from, but it seems that all other share-uploaders have become scared of being arrested themselves.

I’m not claiming that the illegal file-sharing is right. The reason why I still use programs as Share and Bittorrent is simply because they’re the easiest and most consistent ways to get anime. Once anime companies come with a way that can beat these, I’ll most likely switch to them. The thing is, however, that there are still people who don’t realize the irony of trying to solve illegal file-sharing with violence. Take this analogy: suppose you have a dog that doesn’t behave, and you kick it every time it does something it’s not supposed to do. Obviously, the poor thing won’t instantly turn tame, and instead you’re turning it into a wild beast.

There’s more to that than just that analogy, though. To quote Alafista, the three share-uploaders have been charged of uploading “anime like Macross, Gundam and Code Geass”. In other words, the well-known series. The thing with these shows, however, is that there’s a large enough fanbase for these shows for fans to find some kind of way to watch them in a safe, though slightly more troublesome way. Remember when that cease and desist-letter was sent to the fansubbers of Death Note? Well, I’ve never seen Death Note episodes being subbed as fast as those final two.

And indeed, Kanokon, a wildly popular show (gee, I wonder why…) arrived today on Tokyo Toshokan just as scheduled, while Amatsuki had to wait a day. And I guess that waiting a day isn’t that bad, but what about the series that are even less popular than Amatsuki? I don’t want to imagine how long the raws for Himitsu or Crystal Blaze will show up. Or the worst of all: Porfy no Nagai Tabi and Kaiba.

So, basically what the anime executives are trying to do right now is destroying a major source of international promotion for the more obscure and less mainstream series, who actually NEED this kind of attention, while the popular series are hardly affected at all and just sell themselves anyway. Imagine if the Japanese authorities would continue to smash down the illegal file-sharing circuit: all we’d get to see then are Code Geass and Kanokon, while all the other series die a slow death without ever getting the chance of being recognized. (no offence to those who love Code Geass and Kanokon, of course)

Anyway, please excuse this rambling. About this episode: Amatsuki has just kicked xxxHolic out of my top-3 of this season, and that doesn’t say that xxxHolic has become bad by all means. I don’t know exactly what it is with this series, but it consistently has me edged at the screen. There are hardly any weak moments. I really feel that the dialogue draws me in like no other, even though I only understand 50% of it. Amatsuki realizes full well that its main character is an idiot, and makes perfect use of that.

30 Responses

  1. L.A says:

    If this is true, you won’t be able to watch more than half of animes from now on unless someone else uploads instead of them(which is a suicide)
    I don’t use Shares or Whinny to watch animes so it doesn’t really matter to me.
    And I know it sounds harsh, but I think it was a right thing that they get arrested anyway.
    My only complain would be that DVDs are too expensive!

  2. Kurisu says:

    That’s not “harsh”, it’s *disgusting*.

  3. kuromitsu says:

    The problem is that executives simply don’t want to accept that times have changed, and they’re clinging to a business model that obviously doesn’t work anymore. I’m not saying filesharing and piracy is right – far from it. Piracy IS a serious problem. But there’s also the fact that Japanese anime DVDs are ridiculously expensive with very little content, too many shows are aired after midnight, and fans in other countries are very often expected to buy even 13+ episode shows based on reviews and first episodes. Companies are clinging to outdated business models that just don’t work anymore. (Why can’t more companies do what the creators of South Park did? Streaming full episodes in good quality for free, supported by ads. I definitely don’t mind ads.)

    Besides. So they’ve got Winny and Share. There’s still Perfect Dark. If they get to Perfect Dark, people will find something else. At least for popular shows. *sigh* (I wonder how long it will take for Nabari no ou to appear on Perfect Dark…)

  4. Lika says:

    Hoestly, I think the companies are just shooting themselves in the foot with this as without bittorent, there would be no way for me to watch any of my anime and get hooked. No shows to get hooked on, no money to spend on their merchandise. Duh. While I don’t support illegal bootlegging, until they can find a better method of supplying their anime to those in other countries, I’m going to keep on being illegal.

    And, um, LA, would you say the same thing if those that wre arrested DID affect how YOU watched your anime?

  5. Papilo says:

    The companies must follow Gonzo or they will fail to decrease the piracy activity. Online distribution is a reality and the cost to provide a subtitle isn’t so high.
    Is sad to say but we only knows most of the “underground” anime, such as Kaiba, because of that kind of piracy. So, or we change the current anime business model or only the blockbuster animes will be know here in occident.

  6. L.A says:

    I think I would say the same thing, yes. Honestly how can i complain?
    This case won’t stop people using Shares and Whinny and I understand that illegal uploadings will continue to happen in the future. But what we must realize is that people who are working in anime productions/markets aren’t just simply some nice volunteers who make stuff to entertain us for free. If we pay nothing to see animes then I think we have no rights to demand either.

    well this is only my personal opinion. I apologize if my comments gave anyone offense. That was not intentinal at all. And Im not forcing anyone to believe it my way, so you can believe in what you belive…

  7. Azalin says:

    It’s just that they could be earning more money, if they promoted sales in other countries or moved to online distribution.

    I live in Bulgaria, where anime isn’t sold. No matter how they stomp on piracy, I can’t start buying legal stuff, unless it is actually sold to me. I wouldn’t even know about anime’s existance without the pirates.

  8. Lika says:

    But see (this isn’t aimed at you, but at the company), they DON’T get any money. The only money they get is from the sales of the DVDs and merchandise off of the show. And they only way to get money off of that is if people buy them, and the only way people would buy them is if they like it and the only way people would like them is if they are able to WATCH it in the first place. Honestly, even though I don’t have much money, I’ve spent over a thousand of dollars on manga, figurines, DVDs, and posters on stuff that I like in where nearly all (except for, I think, Shaman King, CCS, and Pokemon) I’ve found through bittorent, or online scanlations. The two are illegal, obviously, but where they not there, there would be no way for me to spend all that money.

  9. yoshi927 says:

    I agree about the piracy thing. There’s just no better way. What about a solution like iTunes, only that doesn’t suck? They could upload the raw versions and a version with subtitles, and then have people pay a bit for it. They can make revenue off of it, and still make merchandise sales. Well, there’s probably a flaw in my model there.

  10. Wyrdwad says:

    Honestly, this is why I think Gonzo is incredibly smart for joining up with BOST TV for Tower of Druaga and Blassreiter:

    http://www.bosttv.com/gonzo/the-tower-of-druaga/episodes/

    Legal downloads of anime at reasonably good quality, released online with English subtitles on the day each episode initially airs in Japan, and costing only $2 per episode.

    This is pretty much perfect, and if more companies did this, there would be no need for piracy whatsoever. I recommend everyone support Gonzo’s efforts here, so we see more of this in the future.

    -Tom

  11. Kurisu says:

    If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.

  12. Denizen says:

    Adapt or Die, anime companies. This was another step towards perishing.

  13. Aegd says:

    “If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.”

    Care to elaborate? Because last time I checked piracy was just another word for copyright infrigement of software.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement_of_software

  14. Aegd says:

    I forgot to say; and has also become a term that also encompasses digital media and music.

  15. Mark says:

    Good to see the crack downs start up again !

    I buy almost all of the anime I have here in my home (hundreds of dvd’s) YES its expensive,as is ANY hobby.

    No one ever said it would be cheap.You try working hard for years on something like Stranja,pouring your heart and soul and money and sweat and blood and tears into it,only to see the ‘community’ stab you in the back and give it away for free.More and more great series are not being licensed because the distrib’s know that more and more people will just download it,promsiing to themsleves to buy it later,but most wont.Years ago,it would be insane and unheard of to see a series like Bakamatsu NOT get a full and proper license(YES god forbid,including a decent DUB),now what have we got ?? Two years out,and I am still waiting,cash in hand to buy the 6 or 7 dvd’s at 25 to 35 a crack.But,I cant because the ‘community’ (thieves,and hypocrits who have none to little respect for the hard work of others) in its infinite wisdom has helped ruin that possiblity.Any market for it was swallowed whole by the people that downloaded all those terabytes of files) More proof of this is in the fact that DVD sales are dropping like a rock,year after year,as more and more people,get clued into the torrents and megaupload,etc…as well as have the ability to get cheap high speed internet.

    I am likely older then most(39),have a job,a home,a family,and have worked hard for many years.I understand what it means to put a tremendous amount of work into something,and want to see payback from it.I have been watching this scene develop into the Monster it is for two decades plus.It needs to be killed.I dont need to download more then 2 or 3 eps to know if a series is worth my cash,most honest folks dont.Places like Boxtorrents and DAnime,and all the others
    need to die.

    There are better ways to prom ote lesser known series like Kaiba,and giving all 13 away for free via URESHI,ETC,is NOT IT !

    That many subbers are now offering HD res files is a insult on more then a few levels to the artists,and the companies making this beautiful art possible.

    These companies are in business,they are not a charity,they employ many,but every year that number drops.

    I hope to see more of this type of crackdown go on.Its out and out theft,PERIOD,and needs to see more intervention from the law.

    Some people in any community only learn the hard way,and if that means throwing them in prison and letting them out with a criminal record,then so be it.

    WTF ever happened to personal responsibility in todays world !!?!? Can’t do the time,DONT do the crime,period.Sharing this stuff,is quite plainly illegal. Obviously many in the scene have no clear concept of it.

    I was trying to figure who to adress this to,untill I noticed the name of your BLOG…..S C A B….

    Where I come from,that has a very bad connotation.Its starting to make sense
    now,given your attitude towards others
    hard work.I guess though,that I should
    not be surspised at the feedback on stuff
    like this,given the lack of almost any
    moral compass in todays younger people.

    I have discussed this with many,and age plays a huge role in the average epinion.Under 16-25 seems shocked/surprised at the crackdown,and call it ‘wrong’,those of a slightly older age group think for the most part very,very differently on it.

    Signed: Just Woke,up spelling mistakes and all….

  16. yoshi927 says:

    Um. What does it matter what the older and younger age groups think of it? Better question; what does it matter what ones you talk to? You can pick any two things and correlate them perfectly, as long as you have an inadequate sample.

    Other than that, you have a point. I disagree on a few levels, of course, but I think more people would take you seriously if you didn’t read like a Hillary Clinton supporter on a bad day. ^_^

  17. Kurisu says:

    Aegd, Wikipedia is full of shit and lies because everyone can edit it. It is also abused for propaganda and US-centric. Well, you are even pointing to the wrong article… Is anime software? No, it isn’t.

    copyright infringement -> copying without permission – which is not theft

    piracy -> copying (without permission) OR stealing goods AND selling them for profit

    Mark, you’re so full of shit, it’s not funny anymore. I guess you’re just too old to understand the world of today, so I’m not even going to bother explaining anything. It’s just funny how much you know about the current status of fansubbing even though you’re not watching them… I guess we both know who you are working for.

  18. Leshante says:

    1. Piracy – Appropriate intellectual property to gain monetary profit (selling bootleg items in convention)
    2. Copyright Infringement – Disseminate intellectual property without the consent of the rightholders but involve no monetary gain (fansubbers)

    Of course the legal statutes consider both piracy and copyright infringement illegal. But there are differences between the sprirt and letter of the law. If you really want to delve into naunces, look up the evolution of accounting regulations from the 90s up to Auther Anderson / the Sarbane Oxley Act.

    Getting back into fansubbing. I am also a bit older than typical American fans, albeit not as old as Mark #15. I have seen the progression of anime from early 90s and on. Yes, the digital revolution since ’02 has morphed into rampant and uncontrolled distribution of Japanese animation, and I agree with Mark about the studio’s inability to capture revenue and profit. HOWEVER, it is irrelevant whether it is equitable for the studios to get those profit.

    The fact is the japanese studio will never be able to capture those artifical profit. The tech genie is out and the business model with DVD as underlying linchpin is obsolete. The Japanese studios are fighting the ridiulous battles Sony/EMS fought on digital music circa 90s, and the more litigations the music studios file against hapless (but “criminal”) end-users, the more it pissed off the general mass. When Ipod and Itune were released, what happened? How come Steve Job and Mac are now the indisputed leader in digital music and have sold billions of $$$ in itune? How come Zune suck so bad it is consider a cruel joke? How much the music studios are now desperately trying to catch up on Mac with little success?

    In truth, the CD/DVD business model is now relegated into an auxillary source of revenue. Since the dawn of time, entertainers make bulk of their revenues on live performance and merchandises. As for anime, toy, figurines, console games, manga, light novel, etc will be the future for the studio’s survival. Will IP infringement continue? Of course, but the studios have to abandon the notion that they can capture all the THEORATICAL profit that’s floating around in the net.

    I personally admire those who bought all the licensed DVD. But don’t be so sanctimonious and demand that everyone have to buy DVDs or else they be damned for eternity. I bought thousand $$ of manga / legit anime figures / games. I also contribute to the welfare of the anime industry. And YES, I have ~5 terabit of dvd rip.

    One more point – There are millions of Chinese / Korean population in Japan, and the anime culture in China and Korea is as entrenched, if not more so, than the United States. Among the Chinese anime community, there are more than a few brave souls who will insure an endless supply of HD raw regardless of what the Japanese polices and bureaucrats can come up with.

  19. psgels psgels says:

    Whoa, I must thank everyone for such detailed responses. Though Kurisu: please refrain from cursing at others when you simply don’t agree with them, okay? ;)

    Also Mark: you raised some good points, until you came with the SCAB-reference. I had no intention at all to make it sound like such a word when I came up the title, nor did I feel like checking it for any innuendo.

    Also, I think there’s another reason why the demographics between 16 and 25 are more inclined to support illegal file-sharing, in that they have generally less money than your average adult with a stable job.

    This of course isn’t meant as an excuse. I’m well aware that I’m hypocritical, and the purpose of this article wasn’t to lament the fact that my source of anime has slowed down. Instead it was to highlight that the current executives need to stop biting the hand that feeds them, and instead should try to match their business model to the current situation, like others have suggested. If they don’t, then the endless amount of piracy will only continue, because most anime-fans won’t just stop downloading, just because you ask them to.

  20. Papilo says:

    Surely isn’t a matter of age. In my case I am 32 years old and in my country is hard to find anime stuff unless I import it. Well, I do have a Lodoss War OVA DVD Box and most of the blockbuster anime movies, such as Cowboy Bebop, Chihiro and Metropolis, but the point is to sustain my hobby here I have to afford three times the normal price of a DVD sold here in my country. But I bought all anime stuffs that i liked when they come to my country.

    Anyway, if we don’t want to see a crises such as the one in the music industry we must find other ways to explore anime. Gonzo is one step ahead to prevent a eminent colapse because a new business model is a need in this era of high connectivity. People can watch a video in real-time and a full DVD can be downloaded in just a few minutes. Most of people don’t do piracy because they can’t afford, but most of them do it because is fast, reliable and easy to do. So, if you turns things more difficult you’re just helping piracy. Thats why software’s piracy don’t stop.

    In the music scenery, singers and bands started to provide access to free samples of new albums. Gonzo provide a free access (youtube) for Druaga and Blasstreiser, and a paid version with better quality using bost tv and crunchy. I strongly believe that this is the new reality and those who don’t follow it will fail and go to bankrupt.

  21. Solaris says:

    The real issue here is that everybody is mistaking piracy with fansub.

    Here’s an easy to understand example:

    Piracy: i take a DVD/VHS whatever, make a copy and SELL it to you. I am taking advantage of some other’s work and you spend less money to have the good you could have obtained legally.

    Fansub: i record something from a SAT, TV, or whatever other format. I work on it and make a sub, so that you can understand the speech and PRESENT it to you. I’m putting my own work into it and you don’t spend money to have what you couldn’t have before because nobody took care of your need.

    Are there some differences, aren’t there?

    The problem of the market crackdown is easy blamed on the fansub phenomenon, that isn’t even piracy to start with. The cause are pretty much all another matters. High prices, censorship, awful adaptation for younger audience, low quality, massification.

    Who wants to buy anime will continue to do that regardless of fansub or piracy, but requires quality. Even who doesn’t usually buy DVDs, spend money in related articles.
    I have plenty of original resin kits and gashapon, and mangas to start with, together with movies, but fewrer series on DVD.

    About those poor guys who were arrested. That is the worst ever tactic to deal with the problem. Why arrest three people when there are three million people committing the same “crime”, if we can cal it a crime, of course? These nazi methods only piss of people, and arent resolutive at all. “Punish one to educate one hundred” has never worked and will continue not to work. Other people simply will avoid the problem. Is Share dangerous? Let’s change software, is Japan unsure? Let’s move to Hong Kong end so on… I feel pity for those who will suffer for everybody’s sake, but i fell pitier for japanese government who gave proof to be powerless and show they’re not able to deal with their own business

    Moreover, this is a post on Amatsuki,how did we finish chatting about piracy and stuff? o.O
    Wasn’t it better to move this topic to a proper section?

  22. Denizen says:

    Well, this comment box turned into a war of stupidity.

    – Adults being ironically immature and taking the age high ground as if it ever meant anything.

    – Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, therefore it’s obviously full of lies, because everybody who edits wikipedia is a liar and only edits wikipedia to tell lies. SERIOUSLY GUYS.

    – I buy DVDs, you should too or you’re evidently satan.

    – Fansubbers are all evil people who never give anything back to anime companies, especially not free exposure or the urge to buy merchandise.

    _ _ _

    Amatsuki was good, as ever.

  23. Mark says:

    PSGELS…

    Thank you for your thoughtful feedback,and for allwing your readers to commnet.I want to apologize for my ‘scab’ comment.That was…. somewhat out of line.

    Contrary to the beliefs of some of the misinformed on here,age and education,and employment levels,can and do play a role in this situation.I used to download subbed anime
    A LOT.I regret it,and will never try to claim
    it was the correct thing to do,but thats in the past.Arresting these three people is part of a battle,that many outside the cicrles of the content creators,will likely never understand,so be it.

    Just because the other ‘3 million’ are out breaking the laws of various countries,does not mean its ok for us to do it as well.Thats twisted logic to say the least.

    Kurisu,I used to lash out like that at people that held my stance on this topic too.That was years ago,before I grew up,and went over to Japan,and lived there.Meeting others that work in the field,and saw how devestating what we are doing really is.I dont think anyone here is ‘Satan’ for not spending large portions of thier disposable income on anime dvd’s,etc.

    But I have seen how peoples behaviours change as they leave school/Uni,and go out into the workforce,and work thier butts off for years.
    No it does not mean everything,but its certainly a deciding role in the actions of those around us.

    They usually gain a much greater respect for the work of others,no matter if its some kid waiting tables in a greasy spoon,or an artist at IG.

    I belong to an Anime club,that has over 200 members.One thing we have noticed collectively
    over the 9 years,we have met,are the things I put fourth here and above in my earlier comments.We had a round table discussion
    about this a few years back and did a servey,it showed what I tried to explain.

    Punish one,to educate one hundred does work.Go to take a trip down to any court house,and see how many are NOT being arraigned…

    More and more want everything yesterday and for free,and the anonymity of an IP address
    gives people the false impression,that what they wouldnt steal at the corner store,is just fine online as its all just zero’s and one’s
    …and heck,besides,everyone else is doing it so that must make it ok…right…well right ??

    WRONG… I am constantly amazed at what passes for morals in todays world.

  24. Solaris says:

    Mark if i record a TV program and lend it to my friend i am not doing a crime.
    Fansub is (or ‘was’ i’d say) something like that.
    It’s not related to the image of a thief who steals your ferrari for money. Do you understand it? This false image is what mass media are trying to pass you to be the truth, but it’s not.
    Fansub and anime sharing is what made anime the greatest success in the whole world. Without fansub you’d know about anime the very few childrenized shows the national TVs dish up to you.
    Fansub is a direct wire to the original japanese anime culture, without the influences of the distorted western workups.
    Real piracy is different, that is the real harm to fight. But if you don’t know the difference, and want to fight fansub instead, you’d only make piracy stronger.

  25. bobofet says:

    —————–
    Real Piracy
    —————–
    Definitely agree with Solaris…

    Real piracy are those places which create dvd;s from downloaded material and sell it as if its legit!!!!

    ——————————————
    When do I become a sale?
    ——————————————
    If I hadn’t downloaded my very first anime to watch I never would have become a anime fan in the first place…..I mean with their current business model I am definitely not a sale in their books cause its not like I would get up one day head into a comic store and buy the very first anime I saw hell I didn’t even know what anime was (I thought it was all simply cartoons which I would watch on my Saturday morning TV e.g (Aladdin and Mickey Mouse) which I grew out of years before ….

    So the point there was: I am only a sale when I actually become introduced and interested in anime.

    Would this mean that the fansub I download was form of marketing?

    Hell I would never have gotten interested in anime if I watched in on Japanese tv in raw format cause I don’t speak Japanese.

    —————————–
    Digital Age – Young vs. Old
    —————————–
    I also agree with someone above…In the digital age you need to change the business model to suit the new type of customer that exist…

    What type of customer?
    The younger generation of course you know the 16-25 year olds who are used to getting information within a few clicks instead of going to the library….hell many of the older generation have also adapted to the information age…

    So what does this mean? It means I want my product quickly, reliably and as easily as possible.

    Does DVD accomplish this?
    Hell damn no. I said I want it now not while I am at my PC. Not 1 year from now or even 5 years from now.

    Lets face it other than Blassreiter and Druga Japanese anime doesn’t get released to the public that quickly….and in the information age people want to watch things almost instantaneously.

    Well guess what?
    Fansubs are the closest thing to instantaneous (at a lag of usually 3 or 4 days for most popular shows).

    Also guess what?
    I actually do watch Gonzos anime when it comes out on crunchy role cause its quicker than Fansubs…..

    Now those that want great quality can pay extra for it and those that just want to see the anime can watch the crappy quality.

    ———————————————————————————–
    How does the above business model relate to the concept of a sale?
    ———————————————————————————–
    Lets face it please who were never going to pay of anime never will they will probably end up enjoying another thing (that was never a sale and never will be).

    So in the Gonzo model above, those watching the crappy quality aren’t a sale anyway because, they wouldn’t have bought the anime even if it was available for 50Cents.

    But guess what? this is an extra individual that might just tell someone else about anime and maybe that other person will actually pay to watch the better quality version as it comes out on the internet.

    ———————————–
    Why is I-Tunes popular?
    ———————————–
    It’s a one stop shop.

    Guess what?
    Apple is selling their software and mp3player more than the music it self. Apple is selling the convenience of downloading the music having it organized and simply loading it onto your ipod.

    ———————————————
    Concept of Value Added Sale?
    ———————————————

    Guess what?
    After people have watched an anime, they might actually buy the manga, or the figurines or the other merchandise. If a movie is released in the cinema people might actually watch it because you are getting something that a downloaded anime wouldn’t give you a damn big screen, great sound and an outing with friends. (don’t start with the falling cinema turnover that’s only cause Hollywood aren’t bringing out quality movies that people are interested in, but that’s a different issue)

    The points anyway is that you aren’t JUST selling Anime you are selling the other value added products and services associated with anime.

    Anyway
    My two cents…

  26. Kagome_chan says:

    I totally agree with you. In fact, it’s already been more than a year I’ve read your blog mostly every week and I love your texts. You should be a journalist (that’s what I do). Anyway, that’s just what I was discussing with my boyfriend the other day. Piracy, in this case, is just a way to get undercover anime series to be recognized. And the end of it without any change to the broadcasting system we have now a days would be like cutting at all all ties we have with the culture. We’d only get to see what animax and cartoon network would kindly want to bring us, and that, in my opinion, is not even 5% of what I’m used to watch. Forgive my bad english for I’m brazilian, but I just couldn’t stay quiet about this issue. I love amatsuki and I’d hate if it’d just not be possible to watch again.

  27. Carendel says:

    You have to have exposure to get noticed and eventually sell things… You just can’t get around it. There is no magic pixie that will go around and put ideas in people’s heads for you you see. I would say that the japanese anime studios outta be thanking whatever passes for their god/s for dare I say it free exposure in the form of fansubs rather then the utterly foolish stomping on one of the ways to get fansubs made. Especially with the great lack of attempts to get the anime out there for people who never in their lives would have ever noticed it existed to see in a timely and decent qualitied fashion. Its like they feel that pixie exists and will spread the joy of anime for them and they don’t need no stinkin mortals to freely give them the same…

  28. Toudai says:

    You say this series keeps you on the edge of your seat, yet you couldn’t write ONE sentence about the actual episode. What a great informative blog.

  29. Ray says:

    First off im not going to read all of the comments that people have posted but In my opinion anime needs to be more accessible to the american public. If that were to occur I am sure more and more sites that live solely off of streaming anime would die off. Gonzo is releaseing episodes on the net with subs what is keeping other companies from doing the same. Many of them have copyrights in both Japan and the US, I know it doesn’t take much time and effort to sub the series and release it on the internet at the same time or even a day later when it is released or shown on tv in japan. Sadly until that occurs or something of that effect happens people are still going to pirate anime and many other forms of media.

  30. Khan says:

    I say we should all try our best to bankrupt these companies so they’ll stop with the legal actions. Seriously, I’m so sick of them expecting us to fork over money for their shitty products. Why would I haul my ass off my computer to pay for their crappy DVDs when I can get better quality material for free and for less effort?

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does anyone know where I can download the remastered version of the Utena series? without torrent?
SuperMario
the same very thought here Lenlo. What I considered the weakest part turned out to be so layered. Sorry for ever doubting you, Rakugo.
Lenlo
And that smirk at the end, beautiful
Lenlo
The weakest plot point of S1 has just become the best part ever.
Lenlo
OOH MAN. I was not ready. The entire first season was all a setup. I cant. What. HOW DOES IT GET BETTER
Lenlo
Cant wait to watch Rakugo tonight, just got home and im lookin forward to it,.
AidanAK47
I think before grabbing the protest signs it might be worth considering if the thing you are demanding be uncensored is even worth it. Oh yeah, now you can see genitalia in crap sex scenes that were crow bared into the plot. No more need to use your imagination.
AidanAK47
Some protest because they want there porn. That I suppose I can understand even if I think they would be better off buying some nukige. But then there are those who demand it just for the sake of standing against censorship. They don't give a crap about the game or the fact we are getting the exact same thing the japanese got. What? Censorship of sexual organs? DOWN WITH CENSORSHIP!
AidanAK47
There are people actively proclaiming they won't buy the game, because they can't see dicks. That is not hyperbole. This is literally exactly whats happening here. And they just act so goddamn self righteous about it. Porn is not the goddamn point of these games. Shouldn't even be in them in the first place.
AidanAK47
So another Sekai Kickstarter is up for a trilogy of Visual novels called A Clockwork Ley-Line. Chipped in my bit as I am going to be buying this regardless but like goddamn clockwork you get the idiots yelling for Mosaic removal. No matter how I try to rationalize it, this just sounds stupid.
Kaiser Eoghan
Just whenever I think Rakugo may be dragging its feet it comes out a gives me three big strong moments in this weeks episode, you will know them when you come to them.
K-Off
Dubbing in more subdued performances work fine. It just becomes unbearable when it involves shouty dialogue, which idescribes most of the Japanese games I play.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: I think at the time it allowed Bagel (where did he go?) to find some exploit/gap in the sites security too.
SuperMario
I mean the spoiler code in the comment section. ^^. Like I don't mind if readers give (potential) spoilers but I don't want to ruin the fun of other readers as well
AidanAK47
After all it wasn't a intended feature of the old shoutbox. We were pretty much hacking the thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
I seem to remember all those old html codes stopped working on the old shoutbox too at one point.
Kaiser Eoghan
There was also originally an ability to animate text too of the shoutbox and have gifs appear in the message box but not as links.
AidanAK47
I remember some HTML code worked with the old shoutbox but nope. But I suppose you could change the colour of text to white...though that would effect everything you write.
SuperMario
Btw, do we have spoiler tag here Aidan?
SuperMario
@anon861679: Agreed. They have big ambitions, but they seems unsure on what to do next. I mean engaging your readers to give their thoughts is good, but if it is a mean for you to get inspiration to write essay about isn't that great. Well, give them say 6 months until they can settle down (they just launched this site for 3,4 months only)
Kaiser Eoghan
Despite being fine with anime in English, I've almost always felt that voice acting in videogames isn't as good.
Anonymous861679
Hey mario, that anime feminist blog was well, kind of awful. While they're well intentioned, it felt like they were pushing tumblr stuff onto chan stuff and that always ends up in a smoking mess.
SuperMario
Okay I'm going to erase my memories right now
SuperMario
I swear I'll stay off reddit for good. Have been spoiled by the development of ACCA by one of their "theory". As soon as I realized it's freaking spoiler I stopped but what done is done. Ahhhhhhhhhh
K-Off
Christ Fire Emblem Heroes is pretty addicting, micro transactions are not necessary at all. Though it irks me that I can't get Japanese voices. Dubs just make me cringe every time.
SuperMario
@ckspike: Hand Shakers, the very quality that makes you brain cells die while watching it. Well, I actually think the music is one of the best part of the show, now that you mention it like that...well...*slap my forehead*
ckspike
... my roommate just told me the background music when I'm watching Hand Shakers sounds like a bad porno... Now I can't unhear it. Fuck!
Lenlo
I havnt kept up with Academia, for some reason it just didnt catch me as well as the movie first did.
AidanAK47
You know what's funny? I thought little Witch Academia would be the hardest one to blog. Yet halfway into the current season and it's the one I write the most about.
Lenlo
I actually dont read many blogs. Mostly just this place and the occasional pop on reddit
Anonymous859067
I'd like to present to one of my favorite blogs, A work I just created: Greed Island! https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tc2r.greedisland
AidanAK47
I go to Reddit anime myself but I don't really like the upvote system. Basically the majority rule opinions get put to the top which more often than not are jokes.
HelghastKillzone
I listen to podcasts on youtube and others places as well as going on Reddit Anime to hear a thousand people yammering away.
Kaiser Eoghan
I irregularly follow the episode reviews on ANN and sometimes read standing on my neck. I fell out of the habit of following random curiousity.
SuperMario
Anime Feminist (animefeminist.com), while sounds ambitious on paper, hasn't been too hot unfortunately. I know they aim to be "big" so they're still figuring out how to do it best. Well, good luck for them!
SuperMario
Oh, I know I've mentioned this site before but you guys should read it (blog.sakugabooru.com), this site is one of the only few blogs that I actively subscribed to read their post. They have some insights to the anime industry that is very informative and inspiring
SuperMario
I also think that this chatbox here plays a great role to keep a fair amount of readers for the site, as many sometimes just come here to give their two cents on certain anime.
SuperMario
I just checked out rabujoi blof for the first time, (https://rabujoi.wordpress.com) and I think they're in pretty good shape. Content-wise are solid (as far as I read), and they update their post pretty regularly (comparing their amount of posts last month (80) to ours (28), ouch)
SuperMario
Just really wonder, what are other anime sites that you guys follow beside this? Well, ANN and RandomC are a given, but I found myself haven't bothered to read ANN's episodic reviews lately (mostly due to time constraint)
AidanAK47
Don't tell me this is gonna be a regular thing.
Lenlo
There we go
Lenlo
Oh god JSON objects. I thought that nightmare was over
SuperMario
Mine is working probably as well. Thanks a bunch K-Off and glad to hear back from you.
K-Off
No problem.
K-Off
I really need to figure out how to get those damn tooltips working again on the sidebar thumbnails. It'd be useful to have the descriptions popup.
AidanAK47
Cleared my cache and it looks to be fixed. Thanks as always K-Off. I would be completely screwed without you around.
K-Off
Alright I think that did it. Let me know if it pops up again. If you still see it, clear your browser cache and let me know if its still there.
AidanAK47
Messages still get sent. You just might have to reload the page. We are working on getting it fixed.
Vonter
AidanAK47 I can't get into Fate since like with Nanoha there's a lot of stuff with those names in it. Zero was the most straightforward, yet the buildup was very dragout but the payoffs where very worthy.
HelghastKillzone
testing message.
AidanAK47
This is what I get for updating the bloody plugin.....
AidanAK47
He finished it and was telling me what he thought of Saber defeating Gilgamesh. Minute he said that I was like "OH GOD..." He watched the Deen 2006 adaption. Sadly it loos like he's not going to bother watching UBW TV despite me showing him part of the berserker fight. With Fate/Extra, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Oath under the snow and all the rest this problem will happen again.
AidanAK47
You know I wish the Fate series did a better job naming it's series. I was introducing a newbie so I gave him Fate/Zero first. He loved it so I specifically told him to watch the UBW TV Series and don't mistake it for the movie. He then went and watched the movie. I told him to watch the TV series regardless and brought up the MAL page to show him which one.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, there's definately no harm in doing further reading on more arthouse stuff before reviewing it/watching/after watching, it extends our understanding and is pretty much required.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Go for it, you might sell me on reading it.
Kaiser Eoghan
Yeah, I generally only write reviews every now and then, and they tend to be kept simple and to 200-300 words. My writing ability only really works when I write in stream of consciousness.
Anonymous855550
Zestiria is such a feast for the eyes... The colors and backgrounds are so vivid and magnificent. Story has improved on the game's weaknesses too!
Lenlo
Given enough time, im sure I could write something, but as I writer I tend towards quick, decisive statements of what I think and why. Engineer, so technical documents are like the only thing I know how to write.
Topgavin
@Supermario ah, I'd say I'm the opposite in that I sometimes don't know why I like something so much, and when I read a review about it I can relate my own experiences and put it in my own words pretty well. Can thank Highschool eco for that
SuperMario
But to tell you guys the truth, I never think that I'm cut out as a reviewer (even now), because I'm a type of viewer who more perceive (I know why I like/ don't like stuffs) than express (just can't never explain stuffs well)
SuperMario
@Topgavin: it's depending on what grabbing you really; as I always find shows with heavy symbolisms like Penguindrum or Flip Flappers the easiest to dig deeper. But those are always my kind of show to begin with
Topgavin
I'd find it really hard to write something about a show without reading about it first; watching it one time by myself I usually only notice the big things. Stuff like Flip Flappers I had no clue what half the episode's hidden meanings were, can't imagine reviewing a show like NGE or penguindrum.
SuperMario
that's exactly how I write my reviews anyways
Lenlo
I cant imagine writing a review, id just repeat myself with different words but the same intended meaning over and over again
AidanAK47
Wonder if I should write a review of this. Might be hard without giving too much away.
AidanAK47
(Finishes Sweetest monster Visual novel)
.....well....fuck.
(Buys all authors visual novels on steam.)
Lenlo
Sadly, I doubt Nioh will get a PC port. Sony is pretty stingy on their exclusives, like Bloodborne. But I am so very happy with Nioh. I love technical combat like this
Kaiser Eoghan
I suppose this means I'm looking into this rpg maker game thing now isn't it? Might aswell.
Kaiser Eoghan
I remember the word animerican used to describe things like avatar last airbender. Filthy word =P
Anonymous853606
God no. Jiro Taniguchi died.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I have been hearing very good things about Nioh. Really hoping it gets a PC port.
@Topgavin, No real surprises there.
Topgavin
I'm sure most of you have heard, but looks like New Game is getting a season 2 out of all things. Apparently they had good sales, and I can certainly see why. CGDCT with yuri undertones and clean animation is hard to get wrong, let alone not sell.
Lenlo
Just started with Nioh, and oh my goodness do I love it.
Anonymous852887
anyone play resident evil 7? its so good.
AidanAK47
Thought that's because the term American Anime just feels wrong to me on all levels.
AidanAK47
@Anon, they do not. They are cartoons.
Anonymous852775
DO people call D.C. Comics animated movies American anime?
AidanAK47
@Anon, I am certainly interested in seeing the next episode. Those minisodes were pretty good too. One thing I thought the writting faltered on though was the comedy. It really was a little too slapstick considering how serious the drama was.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: ah remind me the time I went to Texas (Corpus Christy) before X-mas time and I was wearing short pants and thongs (nice!!!), then went all the way up to Niagara Falls and I was almost freezing there.
Lenlo
See, I love winter, but its almost non-existent in Texas
Anonymous852268
@Aidan: I agree. I loved To the Moon. It's so good seeing emotional drama that isn't centered around high-school kids. Seeing the ups and downs of a whole long life of a person gives everything that happens way more impact.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: An Australian friend put it as "A sunbaked rock in summer, a giant zoo, that actively tries to kill its population"
SuperMario
Not that I'm enjoying the winter either. Why autumn always go so fast?
SuperMario
Believe me but summer here is way too much. When it's too hot and dry it starts bushfiring really badly. And it's too hot that even a big fan straight in front of you don't do you any good
Kaiser Eoghan
What is this mysterious creature known as summer you refer to? =P My country is grey as a black and white film =P
SuperMario
I'm wondering how freezing you guys have to endure right now, but the place I came today in Aussie just reached 50 degree celsius this noon. So hot I felt myself burning
Lenlo
I think the part I liked the most, was just how satisfying those mud splatter sounds were. I dont know why, but its in my head
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki 6 subs came out at 11pm PST.
Lenlo
Atleast Rakugo didnt get held up. Still amazing as ever
AidanAK47
Well I spent my time waiting for it to come out by playing and finishing To the Moon. Got to say, it takes some real skill to make a game in RPGmaker that can make you really feel something. But maybe I am just a sucker for this kind of story.
SuperMario
Hey, I would be very frustrating if Hand shakers got delayed. But I agree this delay is caused by Being X. And Scum's Wish, haizzz, this is the show we love to get pissed at. Haha
Anonymous850298
I blame Being X.
AidanAK47
Sigh, Youjo Senki 6 is delayed. Why is it always the best shows that get delayed? If an episode of hand Shakers was delayed no one would give a crap but nope. Gotta be the show you want to watch right away.
AidanAK47
@Anon, in both anime and manga I never liked that character much.
Anonymous849783
Meh, dropped Masamune-kun. Seriously why do they always have to shove in these one dimensional characters with a crush out of f* nowhere. It never made any of these shows more interesting, it's always the opposite.
Vonter
@Kaiser Eoghan - I find it weird having the teacher being so unashamedly evil. In a way I like that, but at the same time I can't relate to the notion of people like that existing IRL.
Kaiser Eoghan
As I continue to watch scums wish, it becomes an anger inducing as much as it is engrossing experience.
AidanAK47
Or the UBW movie over the TV series. You just don't do that.
AidanAK47
That's like recommending someone to watch NGE death and rebirth instead of the TV series.
Kaiser Eoghan
Meh, I just got fed up with the padding in the tv version.
AidanAK47
Jojo has the kind of entertainment that clicks with you or doesn't so I understand if you didn't get into it. Though to give it a fair chance I would recommend trying the first episodes of Battle Tendency. It starts at episode 10 of the first season, you can jump to it. If that doesn't catch you then Jojos really isn't for you.
AidanAK47
Don't listen to Kaiser. The OVA is bad.
Kaiser Eoghan
....found out where a friend had been off to lately, making a movie and he ended up actually making and finishing and I got first dibs. Had a hard time commenting on it as I know the guy personally.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Totally with you on the academy thing.
@Lenlo: If you ever try jojo again and get onto part three go for the ova instead as it trims down an overly bloated arc.
Lenlo
For JoJos, I couldnt get through the first season. It just didnt hook me
Lenlo
What I dont understand is how anything other than Mob Psycho won best animation, cause my god.
Lenlo
I think Erased lost not because of the libido, but because Yuri was "gay" and "progressive" and most important of all, recent. Yuri had just finished airing so it was stuck in everyones heads. Of course it was going to win everything
AidanAK47
Erased truly deserved to win that category and it only lost because people voted with their libido instead of their head.
AidanAK47
If there's one thing that really makes me angry about these awards it's Yuri on Ice winning most heartwarming moment for "The Kiss". Because A) It wasn't a fucking kiss and B) Even if it was that isn't heartwarming. Oh I am sure something is getting warm but it sure as hell isn't your heart.
AidanAK47
Likely the main reason Kira didn't win main villain because Jojo has grown to a episode count which makes people hesitant to pick it up. Not to mention many would lose interest by Stardust crusaders midpoint.
AidanAK47
When it comes to judging quality you have to leave it to the people who have experienced enough of the medium to truly be able to critical judge it. Pretty darn sure most who voted didn't even bother watching everything worthwhile each season and just gravitated towards whatever they were exposed to.
AidanAK47
Lets not forget someone voting multiple times and bot voting. Because yes, people really do that. As you two pointed out, a public vote was never truly going to be a accurate gauge of quality. For you are not only opening the vote to anime lovers but also newbies and those who simply haven't refined their tastes yet.
SuperMario
so they either abstained their votes (which actually was reasonable); voted for something popular or even voted based on what their kids liked the most (which was flat out unforgivable).
SuperMario
This from my own frustration mostly when it comes to awards like this. But I've been following the Academy Awards for way too long now and every now and then you heard something that really disheartened about their voting process. Like for example many of the Academy members admitted that they don't care to watch anything animated because... it's kiddy stuff
SuperMario
TL;DR: my point is I have mixed feeling about the whole Crunchyroll awards. One more thing that I noticed about the nomination is that the pool was dominated by shows from the first half of last year.
Lenlo
I dont think public voting is the way to go is the thing. Popularity contests are horrible. With popularity contests moe is going to be near the top every time, while shows like Rakugo never really have a chance. And I think there is little doubt that Rakugo was one of the best shows last season
SuperMario
@Lenlo: there is an issue with the first thou, because reviewers like us don't actually represent the whole public opinions. So it's all come down to the very reason they create an award in a 1st place (your second point). But with voting we can't really reason why the winners win the trophy, right?
Lenlo
The problem with awards like that is for them to mean anything they need 2 things. 1) A board of voters who are actual reviewers who have watched a large portion of what was on shelf that season. 2) Reasons for why each thing won its award. An award without reasons means nothing
SuperMario
Other issue about voting for these awards is that the nominating body and the voting body aren't always the same. Usually the voting body is broader and more generic in taste, so I'm not at all surprised when shows like Rakugo couldn't win. Too art-house for their liking. Well, at least it got nominated which for me is good enough.
SuperMario
That's the thing. When it comes to awards, they are more 'popularity' contest than actual quality, since people tend to vote for the safer choice (the one that are both popular and mildly critical success), YOI fits the bill here.
Lenlo
Those awards were not the best and little more then a popularity contest imo.
SuperMario
Actually with that line-up I had no problems with YOI taking the top spot
SuperMario
I actually forgot about the Crunchyroll Anime Awards so I came to check the winner. Guess which show won AOTY huh? Alright, at least it wasn't Kabaneri or Jokers Game
Kaiser Eoghan
But the best one was Mask of Phantasm.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: And return of the joker also.
Kaiser Eoghan
It has aged admittedly very poorly, but I always got a great kick out of that old 1994 spiderman cartoon.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I think its fair to use the term K-anime or C-anime for the Korean and Chinese influenced stuff, or maybe just anime would be just as appropriate. If some Argentinian guy can write/draw a manga for a Japanese manga magazine (big comic superior thats the magazines name) and have it actually be called a manga, it should be the same for China/Korea.
Lenlo
Mhmm. Marvel had the movies, but DC had the animated series
AidanAK47
Man, I loved the villains of Batman Beyond. Inque and Shriek had such interesting powers. The DC animated shows tended to be the one that didn't treat you like a kid while watching.
Lenlo
Well, they released a trailer for Samurai Jack S5, so its coming. Batman Beyond I also enjoyed
AidanAK47
Ah Samurai Jack. Wonder how that Adult swim revival is going? Batman the Animated Series as well didn't need Batman to crack off jokes every minute to be great.
Lenlo
Agreed. Samurai Jack was one of my favorite cartoons for that very reason. It ran the gamut of genres, each episode being something different.
Also I used Nichijou cause it was the first to come to my mind as a "Kids Show", though Love-Ru works as well
AidanAK47
One thing I think Cartoons could do to move away from the stigma of being for kids is having more genres than Comedy and Action adventure. Or at least stop putting comedy in everything.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Every fanbase has it's fanatics. There are idiots everywhere.
@Lenlo, I thought this might come up though I was expecting more of "placing Berserk and To Love-Ru in the same category" thing. Honestly I don't have a rebuttal for that. What is an isn't anime is really a matter of what anime is to you.
Lenlo
Now Aidan, you say putting Berserk and Scoopy doo in the same category is wrong, but what about Berserk and say.. Nichijou? A similar problem comes up and I think thats more to do with Berserk being a pretty major outlier (And I love it for being so. Have all the original Dark Horse volumes on my shelf)
Lenlo
Really though, reading Reddit arguments about it is so much fun.
Lenlo
I do think that recently, a number of shows have been trying to move cartoon, and animation in general in the west, away from meaning "For Kids".
Lenlo
Im not sure sure about that Anon, look at the Steven Universe and MLP fanbases.
Anonymous840067
Aidan, that isn't true... Anime has a 'special' name because it's fan base is a lot more fanatical than the cartoon fan base.
AidanAK47
Though I think the whole "Its not for kids" is the main push. Looking at my anime collection the majority is rated 15 with a few 12s. It's like the way you have Young Adult and mature, Comic books and graphic novels, or Visual novels and Eroge. They are essentially the same thing but appeal to different audiences.
AidanAK47
Though I think what really pushes this argument is that the term anime at least has a badge of honor. You don't see people demanding a show to be called a cartoon.
AidanAK47
Honestly the term anime is just a distinction to separate it from the more kiddy stuff. The term cartoon in the western world is too ingrained with the likes of Hanna Barbera or loony toons. No matter how you put it, putting Scooby Doo and Berserk in the same category is just wrong.
SuperMario
Then would you consider Korean, Chinese anime-influenced shows as anime? (I would) and those anime that aimed for Western audience (like Animatrix) as anime? (I would too)
SuperMario
But then we have something like Thunderbolt Fantasy lasy year which if I go for this defination (style) then it isn't anime at all, yet I would categorize it as anime
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