Posted by psgels on 10 May 2008 with categories: Amatsuki


Well, we can already see the results of 92JeyRfcya, YS2YSUOe1cLtf, and YnXmHqtxqS being arrested. It’s been 24 hours, and there’s still no Amatsuki 06 on Share to be found. I can only guess (and thank) where the person who uploaded a version on Tokyo Toshokan got his from, but it seems that all other share-uploaders have become scared of being arrested themselves.

I’m not claiming that the illegal file-sharing is right. The reason why I still use programs as Share and Bittorrent is simply because they’re the easiest and most consistent ways to get anime. Once anime companies come with a way that can beat these, I’ll most likely switch to them. The thing is, however, that there are still people who don’t realize the irony of trying to solve illegal file-sharing with violence. Take this analogy: suppose you have a dog that doesn’t behave, and you kick it every time it does something it’s not supposed to do. Obviously, the poor thing won’t instantly turn tame, and instead you’re turning it into a wild beast.

There’s more to that than just that analogy, though. To quote Alafista, the three share-uploaders have been charged of uploading “anime like Macross, Gundam and Code Geass”. In other words, the well-known series. The thing with these shows, however, is that there’s a large enough fanbase for these shows for fans to find some kind of way to watch them in a safe, though slightly more troublesome way. Remember when that cease and desist-letter was sent to the fansubbers of Death Note? Well, I’ve never seen Death Note episodes being subbed as fast as those final two.

And indeed, Kanokon, a wildly popular show (gee, I wonder why…) arrived today on Tokyo Toshokan just as scheduled, while Amatsuki had to wait a day. And I guess that waiting a day isn’t that bad, but what about the series that are even less popular than Amatsuki? I don’t want to imagine how long the raws for Himitsu or Crystal Blaze will show up. Or the worst of all: Porfy no Nagai Tabi and Kaiba.

So, basically what the anime executives are trying to do right now is destroying a major source of international promotion for the more obscure and less mainstream series, who actually NEED this kind of attention, while the popular series are hardly affected at all and just sell themselves anyway. Imagine if the Japanese authorities would continue to smash down the illegal file-sharing circuit: all we’d get to see then are Code Geass and Kanokon, while all the other series die a slow death without ever getting the chance of being recognized. (no offence to those who love Code Geass and Kanokon, of course)

Anyway, please excuse this rambling. About this episode: Amatsuki has just kicked xxxHolic out of my top-3 of this season, and that doesn’t say that xxxHolic has become bad by all means. I don’t know exactly what it is with this series, but it consistently has me edged at the screen. There are hardly any weak moments. I really feel that the dialogue draws me in like no other, even though I only understand 50% of it. Amatsuki realizes full well that its main character is an idiot, and makes perfect use of that.

30 Responses

  1. L.A says:

    If this is true, you won’t be able to watch more than half of animes from now on unless someone else uploads instead of them(which is a suicide)
    I don’t use Shares or Whinny to watch animes so it doesn’t really matter to me.
    And I know it sounds harsh, but I think it was a right thing that they get arrested anyway.
    My only complain would be that DVDs are too expensive!

  2. Kurisu says:

    That’s not “harsh”, it’s *disgusting*.

  3. kuromitsu says:

    The problem is that executives simply don’t want to accept that times have changed, and they’re clinging to a business model that obviously doesn’t work anymore. I’m not saying filesharing and piracy is right – far from it. Piracy IS a serious problem. But there’s also the fact that Japanese anime DVDs are ridiculously expensive with very little content, too many shows are aired after midnight, and fans in other countries are very often expected to buy even 13+ episode shows based on reviews and first episodes. Companies are clinging to outdated business models that just don’t work anymore. (Why can’t more companies do what the creators of South Park did? Streaming full episodes in good quality for free, supported by ads. I definitely don’t mind ads.)

    Besides. So they’ve got Winny and Share. There’s still Perfect Dark. If they get to Perfect Dark, people will find something else. At least for popular shows. *sigh* (I wonder how long it will take for Nabari no ou to appear on Perfect Dark…)

  4. Lika says:

    Hoestly, I think the companies are just shooting themselves in the foot with this as without bittorent, there would be no way for me to watch any of my anime and get hooked. No shows to get hooked on, no money to spend on their merchandise. Duh. While I don’t support illegal bootlegging, until they can find a better method of supplying their anime to those in other countries, I’m going to keep on being illegal.

    And, um, LA, would you say the same thing if those that wre arrested DID affect how YOU watched your anime?

  5. Papilo says:

    The companies must follow Gonzo or they will fail to decrease the piracy activity. Online distribution is a reality and the cost to provide a subtitle isn’t so high.
    Is sad to say but we only knows most of the “underground” anime, such as Kaiba, because of that kind of piracy. So, or we change the current anime business model or only the blockbuster animes will be know here in occident.

  6. L.A says:

    I think I would say the same thing, yes. Honestly how can i complain?
    This case won’t stop people using Shares and Whinny and I understand that illegal uploadings will continue to happen in the future. But what we must realize is that people who are working in anime productions/markets aren’t just simply some nice volunteers who make stuff to entertain us for free. If we pay nothing to see animes then I think we have no rights to demand either.

    well this is only my personal opinion. I apologize if my comments gave anyone offense. That was not intentinal at all. And Im not forcing anyone to believe it my way, so you can believe in what you belive…

  7. Azalin says:

    It’s just that they could be earning more money, if they promoted sales in other countries or moved to online distribution.

    I live in Bulgaria, where anime isn’t sold. No matter how they stomp on piracy, I can’t start buying legal stuff, unless it is actually sold to me. I wouldn’t even know about anime’s existance without the pirates.

  8. Lika says:

    But see (this isn’t aimed at you, but at the company), they DON’T get any money. The only money they get is from the sales of the DVDs and merchandise off of the show. And they only way to get money off of that is if people buy them, and the only way people would buy them is if they like it and the only way people would like them is if they are able to WATCH it in the first place. Honestly, even though I don’t have much money, I’ve spent over a thousand of dollars on manga, figurines, DVDs, and posters on stuff that I like in where nearly all (except for, I think, Shaman King, CCS, and Pokemon) I’ve found through bittorent, or online scanlations. The two are illegal, obviously, but where they not there, there would be no way for me to spend all that money.

  9. yoshi927 says:

    I agree about the piracy thing. There’s just no better way. What about a solution like iTunes, only that doesn’t suck? They could upload the raw versions and a version with subtitles, and then have people pay a bit for it. They can make revenue off of it, and still make merchandise sales. Well, there’s probably a flaw in my model there.

  10. Wyrdwad says:

    Honestly, this is why I think Gonzo is incredibly smart for joining up with BOST TV for Tower of Druaga and Blassreiter:

    http://www.bosttv.com/gonzo/the-tower-of-druaga/episodes/

    Legal downloads of anime at reasonably good quality, released online with English subtitles on the day each episode initially airs in Japan, and costing only $2 per episode.

    This is pretty much perfect, and if more companies did this, there would be no need for piracy whatsoever. I recommend everyone support Gonzo’s efforts here, so we see more of this in the future.

    -Tom

  11. Kurisu says:

    If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.

  12. Denizen says:

    Adapt or Die, anime companies. This was another step towards perishing.

  13. Aegd says:

    “If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.”

    Care to elaborate? Because last time I checked piracy was just another word for copyright infrigement of software.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement_of_software

  14. Aegd says:

    I forgot to say; and has also become a term that also encompasses digital media and music.

  15. Mark says:

    Good to see the crack downs start up again !

    I buy almost all of the anime I have here in my home (hundreds of dvd’s) YES its expensive,as is ANY hobby.

    No one ever said it would be cheap.You try working hard for years on something like Stranja,pouring your heart and soul and money and sweat and blood and tears into it,only to see the ‘community’ stab you in the back and give it away for free.More and more great series are not being licensed because the distrib’s know that more and more people will just download it,promsiing to themsleves to buy it later,but most wont.Years ago,it would be insane and unheard of to see a series like Bakamatsu NOT get a full and proper license(YES god forbid,including a decent DUB),now what have we got ?? Two years out,and I am still waiting,cash in hand to buy the 6 or 7 dvd’s at 25 to 35 a crack.But,I cant because the ‘community’ (thieves,and hypocrits who have none to little respect for the hard work of others) in its infinite wisdom has helped ruin that possiblity.Any market for it was swallowed whole by the people that downloaded all those terabytes of files) More proof of this is in the fact that DVD sales are dropping like a rock,year after year,as more and more people,get clued into the torrents and megaupload,etc…as well as have the ability to get cheap high speed internet.

    I am likely older then most(39),have a job,a home,a family,and have worked hard for many years.I understand what it means to put a tremendous amount of work into something,and want to see payback from it.I have been watching this scene develop into the Monster it is for two decades plus.It needs to be killed.I dont need to download more then 2 or 3 eps to know if a series is worth my cash,most honest folks dont.Places like Boxtorrents and DAnime,and all the others
    need to die.

    There are better ways to prom ote lesser known series like Kaiba,and giving all 13 away for free via URESHI,ETC,is NOT IT !

    That many subbers are now offering HD res files is a insult on more then a few levels to the artists,and the companies making this beautiful art possible.

    These companies are in business,they are not a charity,they employ many,but every year that number drops.

    I hope to see more of this type of crackdown go on.Its out and out theft,PERIOD,and needs to see more intervention from the law.

    Some people in any community only learn the hard way,and if that means throwing them in prison and letting them out with a criminal record,then so be it.

    WTF ever happened to personal responsibility in todays world !!?!? Can’t do the time,DONT do the crime,period.Sharing this stuff,is quite plainly illegal. Obviously many in the scene have no clear concept of it.

    I was trying to figure who to adress this to,untill I noticed the name of your BLOG…..S C A B….

    Where I come from,that has a very bad connotation.Its starting to make sense
    now,given your attitude towards others
    hard work.I guess though,that I should
    not be surspised at the feedback on stuff
    like this,given the lack of almost any
    moral compass in todays younger people.

    I have discussed this with many,and age plays a huge role in the average epinion.Under 16-25 seems shocked/surprised at the crackdown,and call it ‘wrong’,those of a slightly older age group think for the most part very,very differently on it.

    Signed: Just Woke,up spelling mistakes and all….

  16. yoshi927 says:

    Um. What does it matter what the older and younger age groups think of it? Better question; what does it matter what ones you talk to? You can pick any two things and correlate them perfectly, as long as you have an inadequate sample.

    Other than that, you have a point. I disagree on a few levels, of course, but I think more people would take you seriously if you didn’t read like a Hillary Clinton supporter on a bad day. ^_^

  17. Kurisu says:

    Aegd, Wikipedia is full of shit and lies because everyone can edit it. It is also abused for propaganda and US-centric. Well, you are even pointing to the wrong article… Is anime software? No, it isn’t.

    copyright infringement -> copying without permission – which is not theft

    piracy -> copying (without permission) OR stealing goods AND selling them for profit

    Mark, you’re so full of shit, it’s not funny anymore. I guess you’re just too old to understand the world of today, so I’m not even going to bother explaining anything. It’s just funny how much you know about the current status of fansubbing even though you’re not watching them… I guess we both know who you are working for.

  18. Leshante says:

    1. Piracy – Appropriate intellectual property to gain monetary profit (selling bootleg items in convention)
    2. Copyright Infringement – Disseminate intellectual property without the consent of the rightholders but involve no monetary gain (fansubbers)

    Of course the legal statutes consider both piracy and copyright infringement illegal. But there are differences between the sprirt and letter of the law. If you really want to delve into naunces, look up the evolution of accounting regulations from the 90s up to Auther Anderson / the Sarbane Oxley Act.

    Getting back into fansubbing. I am also a bit older than typical American fans, albeit not as old as Mark #15. I have seen the progression of anime from early 90s and on. Yes, the digital revolution since ’02 has morphed into rampant and uncontrolled distribution of Japanese animation, and I agree with Mark about the studio’s inability to capture revenue and profit. HOWEVER, it is irrelevant whether it is equitable for the studios to get those profit.

    The fact is the japanese studio will never be able to capture those artifical profit. The tech genie is out and the business model with DVD as underlying linchpin is obsolete. The Japanese studios are fighting the ridiulous battles Sony/EMS fought on digital music circa 90s, and the more litigations the music studios file against hapless (but “criminal”) end-users, the more it pissed off the general mass. When Ipod and Itune were released, what happened? How come Steve Job and Mac are now the indisputed leader in digital music and have sold billions of $$$ in itune? How come Zune suck so bad it is consider a cruel joke? How much the music studios are now desperately trying to catch up on Mac with little success?

    In truth, the CD/DVD business model is now relegated into an auxillary source of revenue. Since the dawn of time, entertainers make bulk of their revenues on live performance and merchandises. As for anime, toy, figurines, console games, manga, light novel, etc will be the future for the studio’s survival. Will IP infringement continue? Of course, but the studios have to abandon the notion that they can capture all the THEORATICAL profit that’s floating around in the net.

    I personally admire those who bought all the licensed DVD. But don’t be so sanctimonious and demand that everyone have to buy DVDs or else they be damned for eternity. I bought thousand $$ of manga / legit anime figures / games. I also contribute to the welfare of the anime industry. And YES, I have ~5 terabit of dvd rip.

    One more point – There are millions of Chinese / Korean population in Japan, and the anime culture in China and Korea is as entrenched, if not more so, than the United States. Among the Chinese anime community, there are more than a few brave souls who will insure an endless supply of HD raw regardless of what the Japanese polices and bureaucrats can come up with.

  19. psgels psgels says:

    Whoa, I must thank everyone for such detailed responses. Though Kurisu: please refrain from cursing at others when you simply don’t agree with them, okay? ;)

    Also Mark: you raised some good points, until you came with the SCAB-reference. I had no intention at all to make it sound like such a word when I came up the title, nor did I feel like checking it for any innuendo.

    Also, I think there’s another reason why the demographics between 16 and 25 are more inclined to support illegal file-sharing, in that they have generally less money than your average adult with a stable job.

    This of course isn’t meant as an excuse. I’m well aware that I’m hypocritical, and the purpose of this article wasn’t to lament the fact that my source of anime has slowed down. Instead it was to highlight that the current executives need to stop biting the hand that feeds them, and instead should try to match their business model to the current situation, like others have suggested. If they don’t, then the endless amount of piracy will only continue, because most anime-fans won’t just stop downloading, just because you ask them to.

  20. Papilo says:

    Surely isn’t a matter of age. In my case I am 32 years old and in my country is hard to find anime stuff unless I import it. Well, I do have a Lodoss War OVA DVD Box and most of the blockbuster anime movies, such as Cowboy Bebop, Chihiro and Metropolis, but the point is to sustain my hobby here I have to afford three times the normal price of a DVD sold here in my country. But I bought all anime stuffs that i liked when they come to my country.

    Anyway, if we don’t want to see a crises such as the one in the music industry we must find other ways to explore anime. Gonzo is one step ahead to prevent a eminent colapse because a new business model is a need in this era of high connectivity. People can watch a video in real-time and a full DVD can be downloaded in just a few minutes. Most of people don’t do piracy because they can’t afford, but most of them do it because is fast, reliable and easy to do. So, if you turns things more difficult you’re just helping piracy. Thats why software’s piracy don’t stop.

    In the music scenery, singers and bands started to provide access to free samples of new albums. Gonzo provide a free access (youtube) for Druaga and Blasstreiser, and a paid version with better quality using bost tv and crunchy. I strongly believe that this is the new reality and those who don’t follow it will fail and go to bankrupt.

  21. Solaris says:

    The real issue here is that everybody is mistaking piracy with fansub.

    Here’s an easy to understand example:

    Piracy: i take a DVD/VHS whatever, make a copy and SELL it to you. I am taking advantage of some other’s work and you spend less money to have the good you could have obtained legally.

    Fansub: i record something from a SAT, TV, or whatever other format. I work on it and make a sub, so that you can understand the speech and PRESENT it to you. I’m putting my own work into it and you don’t spend money to have what you couldn’t have before because nobody took care of your need.

    Are there some differences, aren’t there?

    The problem of the market crackdown is easy blamed on the fansub phenomenon, that isn’t even piracy to start with. The cause are pretty much all another matters. High prices, censorship, awful adaptation for younger audience, low quality, massification.

    Who wants to buy anime will continue to do that regardless of fansub or piracy, but requires quality. Even who doesn’t usually buy DVDs, spend money in related articles.
    I have plenty of original resin kits and gashapon, and mangas to start with, together with movies, but fewrer series on DVD.

    About those poor guys who were arrested. That is the worst ever tactic to deal with the problem. Why arrest three people when there are three million people committing the same “crime”, if we can cal it a crime, of course? These nazi methods only piss of people, and arent resolutive at all. “Punish one to educate one hundred” has never worked and will continue not to work. Other people simply will avoid the problem. Is Share dangerous? Let’s change software, is Japan unsure? Let’s move to Hong Kong end so on… I feel pity for those who will suffer for everybody’s sake, but i fell pitier for japanese government who gave proof to be powerless and show they’re not able to deal with their own business

    Moreover, this is a post on Amatsuki,how did we finish chatting about piracy and stuff? o.O
    Wasn’t it better to move this topic to a proper section?

  22. Denizen says:

    Well, this comment box turned into a war of stupidity.

    – Adults being ironically immature and taking the age high ground as if it ever meant anything.

    – Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, therefore it’s obviously full of lies, because everybody who edits wikipedia is a liar and only edits wikipedia to tell lies. SERIOUSLY GUYS.

    – I buy DVDs, you should too or you’re evidently satan.

    – Fansubbers are all evil people who never give anything back to anime companies, especially not free exposure or the urge to buy merchandise.

    _ _ _

    Amatsuki was good, as ever.

  23. Mark says:

    PSGELS…

    Thank you for your thoughtful feedback,and for allwing your readers to commnet.I want to apologize for my ‘scab’ comment.That was…. somewhat out of line.

    Contrary to the beliefs of some of the misinformed on here,age and education,and employment levels,can and do play a role in this situation.I used to download subbed anime
    A LOT.I regret it,and will never try to claim
    it was the correct thing to do,but thats in the past.Arresting these three people is part of a battle,that many outside the cicrles of the content creators,will likely never understand,so be it.

    Just because the other ‘3 million’ are out breaking the laws of various countries,does not mean its ok for us to do it as well.Thats twisted logic to say the least.

    Kurisu,I used to lash out like that at people that held my stance on this topic too.That was years ago,before I grew up,and went over to Japan,and lived there.Meeting others that work in the field,and saw how devestating what we are doing really is.I dont think anyone here is ‘Satan’ for not spending large portions of thier disposable income on anime dvd’s,etc.

    But I have seen how peoples behaviours change as they leave school/Uni,and go out into the workforce,and work thier butts off for years.
    No it does not mean everything,but its certainly a deciding role in the actions of those around us.

    They usually gain a much greater respect for the work of others,no matter if its some kid waiting tables in a greasy spoon,or an artist at IG.

    I belong to an Anime club,that has over 200 members.One thing we have noticed collectively
    over the 9 years,we have met,are the things I put fourth here and above in my earlier comments.We had a round table discussion
    about this a few years back and did a servey,it showed what I tried to explain.

    Punish one,to educate one hundred does work.Go to take a trip down to any court house,and see how many are NOT being arraigned…

    More and more want everything yesterday and for free,and the anonymity of an IP address
    gives people the false impression,that what they wouldnt steal at the corner store,is just fine online as its all just zero’s and one’s
    …and heck,besides,everyone else is doing it so that must make it ok…right…well right ??

    WRONG… I am constantly amazed at what passes for morals in todays world.

  24. Solaris says:

    Mark if i record a TV program and lend it to my friend i am not doing a crime.
    Fansub is (or ‘was’ i’d say) something like that.
    It’s not related to the image of a thief who steals your ferrari for money. Do you understand it? This false image is what mass media are trying to pass you to be the truth, but it’s not.
    Fansub and anime sharing is what made anime the greatest success in the whole world. Without fansub you’d know about anime the very few childrenized shows the national TVs dish up to you.
    Fansub is a direct wire to the original japanese anime culture, without the influences of the distorted western workups.
    Real piracy is different, that is the real harm to fight. But if you don’t know the difference, and want to fight fansub instead, you’d only make piracy stronger.

  25. bobofet says:

    —————–
    Real Piracy
    —————–
    Definitely agree with Solaris…

    Real piracy are those places which create dvd;s from downloaded material and sell it as if its legit!!!!

    ——————————————
    When do I become a sale?
    ——————————————
    If I hadn’t downloaded my very first anime to watch I never would have become a anime fan in the first place…..I mean with their current business model I am definitely not a sale in their books cause its not like I would get up one day head into a comic store and buy the very first anime I saw hell I didn’t even know what anime was (I thought it was all simply cartoons which I would watch on my Saturday morning TV e.g (Aladdin and Mickey Mouse) which I grew out of years before ….

    So the point there was: I am only a sale when I actually become introduced and interested in anime.

    Would this mean that the fansub I download was form of marketing?

    Hell I would never have gotten interested in anime if I watched in on Japanese tv in raw format cause I don’t speak Japanese.

    —————————–
    Digital Age – Young vs. Old
    —————————–
    I also agree with someone above…In the digital age you need to change the business model to suit the new type of customer that exist…

    What type of customer?
    The younger generation of course you know the 16-25 year olds who are used to getting information within a few clicks instead of going to the library….hell many of the older generation have also adapted to the information age…

    So what does this mean? It means I want my product quickly, reliably and as easily as possible.

    Does DVD accomplish this?
    Hell damn no. I said I want it now not while I am at my PC. Not 1 year from now or even 5 years from now.

    Lets face it other than Blassreiter and Druga Japanese anime doesn’t get released to the public that quickly….and in the information age people want to watch things almost instantaneously.

    Well guess what?
    Fansubs are the closest thing to instantaneous (at a lag of usually 3 or 4 days for most popular shows).

    Also guess what?
    I actually do watch Gonzos anime when it comes out on crunchy role cause its quicker than Fansubs…..

    Now those that want great quality can pay extra for it and those that just want to see the anime can watch the crappy quality.

    ———————————————————————————–
    How does the above business model relate to the concept of a sale?
    ———————————————————————————–
    Lets face it please who were never going to pay of anime never will they will probably end up enjoying another thing (that was never a sale and never will be).

    So in the Gonzo model above, those watching the crappy quality aren’t a sale anyway because, they wouldn’t have bought the anime even if it was available for 50Cents.

    But guess what? this is an extra individual that might just tell someone else about anime and maybe that other person will actually pay to watch the better quality version as it comes out on the internet.

    ———————————–
    Why is I-Tunes popular?
    ———————————–
    It’s a one stop shop.

    Guess what?
    Apple is selling their software and mp3player more than the music it self. Apple is selling the convenience of downloading the music having it organized and simply loading it onto your ipod.

    ———————————————
    Concept of Value Added Sale?
    ———————————————

    Guess what?
    After people have watched an anime, they might actually buy the manga, or the figurines or the other merchandise. If a movie is released in the cinema people might actually watch it because you are getting something that a downloaded anime wouldn’t give you a damn big screen, great sound and an outing with friends. (don’t start with the falling cinema turnover that’s only cause Hollywood aren’t bringing out quality movies that people are interested in, but that’s a different issue)

    The points anyway is that you aren’t JUST selling Anime you are selling the other value added products and services associated with anime.

    Anyway
    My two cents…

  26. Kagome_chan says:

    I totally agree with you. In fact, it’s already been more than a year I’ve read your blog mostly every week and I love your texts. You should be a journalist (that’s what I do). Anyway, that’s just what I was discussing with my boyfriend the other day. Piracy, in this case, is just a way to get undercover anime series to be recognized. And the end of it without any change to the broadcasting system we have now a days would be like cutting at all all ties we have with the culture. We’d only get to see what animax and cartoon network would kindly want to bring us, and that, in my opinion, is not even 5% of what I’m used to watch. Forgive my bad english for I’m brazilian, but I just couldn’t stay quiet about this issue. I love amatsuki and I’d hate if it’d just not be possible to watch again.

  27. Carendel says:

    You have to have exposure to get noticed and eventually sell things… You just can’t get around it. There is no magic pixie that will go around and put ideas in people’s heads for you you see. I would say that the japanese anime studios outta be thanking whatever passes for their god/s for dare I say it free exposure in the form of fansubs rather then the utterly foolish stomping on one of the ways to get fansubs made. Especially with the great lack of attempts to get the anime out there for people who never in their lives would have ever noticed it existed to see in a timely and decent qualitied fashion. Its like they feel that pixie exists and will spread the joy of anime for them and they don’t need no stinkin mortals to freely give them the same…

  28. Toudai says:

    You say this series keeps you on the edge of your seat, yet you couldn’t write ONE sentence about the actual episode. What a great informative blog.

  29. Ray says:

    First off im not going to read all of the comments that people have posted but In my opinion anime needs to be more accessible to the american public. If that were to occur I am sure more and more sites that live solely off of streaming anime would die off. Gonzo is releaseing episodes on the net with subs what is keeping other companies from doing the same. Many of them have copyrights in both Japan and the US, I know it doesn’t take much time and effort to sub the series and release it on the internet at the same time or even a day later when it is released or shown on tv in japan. Sadly until that occurs or something of that effect happens people are still going to pirate anime and many other forms of media.

  30. Khan says:

    I say we should all try our best to bankrupt these companies so they’ll stop with the legal actions. Seriously, I’m so sick of them expecting us to fork over money for their shitty products. Why would I haul my ass off my computer to pay for their crappy DVDs when I can get better quality material for free and for less effort?

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@K-Off: Yeah, as much as I enjoy Train to Busan, the plot is very thinly written with just about enough characterization and subtext to make it work. Well, if that's the case I can see myself enjoy Seoul Station even more.
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In the live action the sole emotional connection (for me at least) was in the main character's redemption, but it was just enough to keep me hooked. In Seoul Station, they built multiple points of interest in people and locations around the main characters. Which is why it was so much more effective in terms of getting us connected very early on. Reminded me of I Am a Hero in that sense.
K-Off
@Mario I'm not too picky with animation, and Seoul Station's choppy frame rate didn't distract me too much from the story. It was solid, there was a believable build up and an intense climax. It felt like a tighter script than TtB which is why I feel like it played its emotional links better.
K-Off
Well, that's that. @Bam @Afgm, create your own bios and avatars, and I'll add them into our "About" page.
K-Off
@Masky Ignore that, it must be your browser cookies that are still keeping that function.
Masky
Huh, register? I just write my name over and over again, I haven't actually registered
Kaiser Eoghan
It was that breaking the habit video I imagine that got you guys listening to linkin park back then.
Anonymous71936
;( Now I can't use my previous handle...
Anonymous71936
Ha... New shout box.
There's a lot more people now too.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: really? I never care one inch about the podcast. It just doesn't appeal to me at all. I guess I pretty much enjoy reading more.
SuperMario
@Aidan: everyone thought Linkin Park was cool back then, but now their songs just fallen apart. I still have a soft spot for Arvil Lavigne, even when her songs getting teenisier as she's getting older. Still can't believe she sing that boyfriend song when she was on the verge of divorcing her first husband
Kaiser Eoghan
I'd be in full support of podcasts being done on this site again.
Kaiser Eoghan
Actually I remember blackanimecritic actually posted on here a few times.
Kaiser Eoghan
There was a guy called animeoverviewer years back who I followed. I can remember watching a few of blackanimecritics videos but not many.
Kaiser Eoghan
I guess I found some amusement from him, he did that re-zero 1-6 review too.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: I watched his "will I grow out of anime video" and his "anime dubs video" and a video he made about how anime fans/anime is perceived/is anime mainstream video. Also his video on the harem genre.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Pretty sure I bought a cd of Avril Lavigne and linkin park way back when...and it's for these reasons I wish I could time travel and give myself a good kick up the ass.
AidanAK47
Kaiser, you watch Gigguk?! That's pretty surprising...
SuperMario
My problem is that I rarely have free time myself, but when I do I'm just sort of surfing around all the useless stuffs (like that Digibro's video). Talking about embarrasing taste, I just checked out the CDs I bought back in 2006 and there were stuffs that I had no idea why I bought them in the 1st place: Hilary Duff, High School Musical 2...
Kaiser Eoghan
I've been warned enough about digibro on here to not even bother watching his videos.
The only anime orientated youtuber I kind of watch is Gigguk.
Kaiser Eoghan
Or back in the days where I would marathon a whole series in one sitting.
Kaiser Eoghan
I mean I remember one weekend a few years back I watched five films in one sitting and went "Holy shit look at the time" afterwards.
Kaiser Eoghan
I'd be too tired too often. I'd frequently get into something so much that I'd lose track of how long I spent on it.
Kaiser Eoghan
Like when I look back on my film tastes from the early 2000s up until 2013, embarrassed by them. I think when I got round to rating anime/films it particularly showed how my tastes had changed.
AidanAK47
Heh, Digimon. Autocorrect can be a pain.
I am not gonna deny that I think there is such a thing as shit taste and even admit my taste in anime was terrible when I started out. However those bitching about others tastes need to be aware of the weaknesses in their own. Again, this guy bitching about shit taste hails K-ON as a anime masterpiece. Nuff said.
AidanAK47
I tend to lose track of time more than get tired. Hell I forgot to write up the Mob psycho reveiw today. God, I never seem to have enough time. Outside of work I don't even know what i did with my time.
SuperMario
About Digimon, I just watched 2 of his videos and they rubbed me the wrong way too. While I agree that everyone needs to have a bias, because bias/preference is what makes you different than others, "taste" so to speak. But bitching about others' tastes is just plain terrible. I have a feeling he never really think through outside of his opinions. Hence you're correct Aidan
SuperMario
Haha, fell asleep as I was writting Thunderbolt Fantasy review yesterday. Makes me wonder of it's just me or any writer having the same problems sometimes?
@K-off: great, tell me what you think afterward. I watched Train to Busan last week and I enjoyed it. It's a great piece of entertainment. The thing I like the most is the pacing. Everything just so quiet until all hell breaks loose
AidanAK47
@Fongstar, we had it faster before but it caused too much stress on the server. Either way the old one didn't refresh at all.
Fongstar
@K-Off well that's not really reliable since it's faster to just refresh the page.
K-Off
@Mario Going to watch Seoul Station tonight.
@Fongstar It updates every 2 minutes.
K-Off
Well this ought to be entertaining. The intern brought some home made chicken sandwiches but it turns out some of the chicken were undercooked. Hope I don't get fucking salmonella.
Fongstar
@Aidan ratsgnoF here ;D New chat box looks nice. Does it update without refreshing page?
AidanAK47
As we said. Still working on it. We will be giving you guys the ability to register with the site as well.
Anonymous71331
the main reason is that the new chatbox doesn't log guest users out correctly, so the only users who can keep their usernames are those who are actually registered with wordpress/the site (i.e. the admins, authors, etc)
Anonymous71331
that's not the only reason
Masky
(yeah I know its because the old shoutbox required you to make a name and give email :D)
Masky
Is it just me or have we had more anonymous users sending messages lately? xD
Masky
Good for you?
Anonymous70992
i lik da hentai
AidanAK47
Even if someone says they hate Re:Zero which I practically love by this point, I can honestly see why they would. I was planning to put that in my final review of the show as while I think it's merits outweigh the flaws, it still does have problems.
AidanAK47
@Masky, yep. I know I have a bias for Fate so in that regard you won't see me attempt to justify its flaws with flimsy logic. I know what's wrong with it. In the same way I know that slice of life, comedy and should just don't appeal to me so I refrain from being to harsh. I know the flaws in the things I like, unlike Digi who still seems to be putting forward K-ON as some anime masterpiece.
Masky
Honestly, I do my best to not actually remember those channels. I don't want to give them more viewers. And yeah, even channels dedicated to hating hate channels are part of the problem.
Anonymous70806
You mean like Keemstar? Or you can even do the whole "pot calling the kettle black" and include channels dedicated to hating channels like him.
Masky
Also I hate google/youtube for keeping reccomending me anti sjw rant videos, I don't fricking care~ I don't watch political videos on youtube goddangit
Masky
Anyhoo, hipster be hipsters, some people will say too much about what tastes other people should have and whatever, but only producers I actively dislike on youtube are the ones who base their channels around insulting other channels
Masky
@Aidan: Just to check, you are completely aware of your biases then? :D
Anonymous70760
Every mother in anime tries to be a milf
Kaiser Eoghan
I know fully well if the H-scenes were voiced in different languages to Japanese I'd probably get more out of them.
Kaiser Eoghan
Such contradiction, find myself unable to stand anime milfs, yet most actresses I'd admit to saying are good looking have been older than me, even in the old films I watched them in when they were younger than they are now.
Kaiser Eoghan
....I think in some cases for H-scenes they get voice doubles.
Kaiser Eoghan
Isn't Roriconfan/thatanimesnob another example of contrarianism? Or maybe its just bias , I think he might be bias toward old scifi anime.
AidanAK47
I bet you that once Re:Zero is over that he will post a video claiming its not as good as everyone made it out to be because he wrote it off fast in its first episodes. He will nitpick the hell out of it to save his pride. I bet you he will.
AidanAK47
It does feel at times that he goes against mainstream opinion for the sake of going against mainstream opinion. I do think there's some value in his videos talking about the industry(except his irrational hate of A1 pictures) but his personal opinion pieces tend to rub me the wrong way.
AidanAK47
A testament to this is those "I can judge an series by the first episode" which are essentailly self mastibutary tripe about his apparent abilty to gauge an entire series worth on its first episode. Of course this opinion is invalidated when the man literally states he has a tendency to drop anything on the first episode and his drop list has plenty of examples of get better later.
AidanAK47
@Supermario, we mentioned Digital before and as I said then I don't like him. He's too unaware of his bais and some have accused him of being a hipster. He tends to backpedal on his videos by stating he doesnt intend to convince anyone but it's clear he believes his own bullshit even when he's just wrong.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, in VNs All Ages doesn't really mean what you think. It's pretty much a version of a Visual novel with sex scenes removed and not much else. So an All Ages VN doesn't literally mean its suitable for all ages.
SuperMario
Just stumbled through "The Most Boring Anime Taste" video essay by Digibro and I found it bullsh*t. He attacked other's taste just because it was too "safe"? Who is he to judge? Why does he get so work up on that nonsense 3x3 mosaic? Why do I even bother to listen to it (and I did). Words fail me.
K-Off
Christ, the site now loads in 77 milliseconds in Europe. You poor Australians with your 7 seconds. Although, I want to do something about that.
@Aidan All ages? Bit weird considering I don't expect many kids to play that game anyways, so I understand fans' gripes. But in the end, people always get up in arms over the dumbest shit like censored nudity.
SuperMario
People actually said that men tend to treat their partner (when they're living together) exactly the way they treat their moms, so here you go.
afgm
I wonder if your attitude towards moms is correlated with your relationships with and attitudes towards women in general.
Anonymous68919
mothers are mothers, if they are bitches, leave them, but don't hate them. never
Anonymous68919
look nice. i prefer the one at the top. just looks more vast to me... and i's a change of pace to the current
AidanAK47
@Anon68842, depends on the type. If it's the abusive drunk ignorant type then yeah, fuck em. But if we are talking the ordinary variety I say give them a break. They do more for you that you might think.
Anonymous68842
fuck them
Anonymous68842
we agrees that moms are bitches
AidanAK47
And in Visual novel news, Dies Irae is getting a localisation. That's another one off the VN bucket list. I heard it was notoriously hard to translate. Though people are making a stink over it being all ages but I couldn't care less. All ages just means no shoehorned sex scenes and that's fine in my book.
AidanAK47
@Topgavin, I never quite got that from Honoka but I prefer a character to be imperfect rather than perfect. Saints are boring and having a character always do right is predictable. While I somewhat understand the appeal, one thing that never sat right with me regarding "cute girls,cute things" shows is how utterly manufactured the characters are.
Topgavin
Started watching Love Live and it's made me wonder; is it better to have an mc that does things annoyingly wrong or satisfyingly wrong? Like, Yui from k-on does a lot wrong but it never leads to anything wrong or bad, but Honoka's rather selfish and ends up screwing things up for people. I know doing this is good for char. development but I honestly enjoy these shows more as moeblob peacefulness.
Anonymous66886
Hey
afgm
i did summer session so I have a midterm every two weeks
K-Off
@afgm Midterms? Most university/college systems would be starting school right around this time.
afgm
Midterms have been slowing me down considerably haha
afgm
@K-off: yeah I did! thanks for that. I've been looking through the code stuff, just getting to know it.
reaLjustified
I think the rabbit character does the job
reaLjustified
I think the banner might look even better without the girl. Or make her tiny and off in the distance. I don't know, I'm not an artist by any stretch so that's just me.
K-Off
Finally bought my first new car, a 2015 Altima, my used Sentra served me well for 3 years but damn was it a pain in the ass, and of course its trade in value was fuck-all. But luckily my credit is good enough for me to land a relatively low annual interest rate. Which is excellent because I need to shave off my remaining student loans to maximize my dti since I want to purchase a home
Kaiser Eoghan
You might say the new banner will be...Friendtastic!
Kaiser Eoghan
I'm fairly content with either the top one or the bottom one either way. Though the current banner does have the character standing on the left.
K-Off
@Friend Looks great, and I prefer the bottom one. Maybe it's just me but the tree hugging the leftmost edge makes it look a little inclusive.
@Afgm Forgot to tell you but I did change your status a few days ago, hope you noticed it.
afgm
It's beautiful, Friend
Fri3nd
@Anonymous Thank you, it's my values, a quick lasso selection and a levels adjustment should give that a quick fix :P
Anonymous60656
Looks really nice. some lighting variation to create a sense of depth and atmosphere would be nice @Friend. It looks quite flat for some reason even though you have four layers to play with
Ikhta
@Kaiser Eoghan Yeah I think the same too. Hopefully. Thanks Kaiser
Friend
Here is what it will more or less look like by the end (https://i.imgur.com/hnB8lpd.png) I'm going to render the rest and add more atmosphere with some wisps of light. Let me know which one you prefer! If I'm not happy with it by the end I might even just scrap it, I don't want to force a design for the site :D
afgm
heard*
afgm
Unfortunately, I have heared that Amanchu is actually propaganda from an alien species set on annihilating civilization through cultural and religious dominance
Kaiser Eoghan
@Ikhta: You can relax on that front and breathe easy, Amanchu is basically simple, cute slice of life quasi-sports comedy that kind of gets more moe-ish later on.
Ikhta
Oops sorry. After I send a msg, I can see my previous msgs. Sorry about that. Weird, why is the chat box like this o_o
Ikhta
I just reloaded the page my msgs are gone. Wth is wrong with this website? Why was msg deleted?
Ikhta
Does anyone know?
Ikhta
Hi can anyone tell me is Amanchu illuminati or not? I'm a christian. I don't want to be watching it if its demonic,anti christ or illuminati.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: I'm syked for baldr sky and that other apparently fucked up one thats getting translated soon we talked about with ninja.
Kaiser Eoghan
...damn you shoutbox...auto-hyphening me as you do...
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, how things change, at 19? I think I was at the time I remember un-ironically thinking school days ending/second half was clever/different/subversive. Now I find it idiotic, silly and manipulative regarding the protag being a cheap attempt to get the audiences hate.
Kaiser Eoghan
Some don't seem to like the second season of EF as much as the first, just putting that out there. I remember its visual style being a selling point and shaft at their A-game stylistically. Wish I'd watched it dubbed though, the eyepatch girls voice was irritating as all hell in Japanese.
AidanAK47
EF is alright. I can promise it's not another school days.
Anonymous59512
Bleh 91days running behind schedule and had to run a recap episode. Doesn't bode well.
Anonymous59460
Do you recommend that I watch EF? I don't want another School Days.
AidanAK47
Yep. They are making it out that shes a relative of Luvia.
Masky
I mean, I didn't even realize she was supposed to be a Finn before you said that, I didn't caught on that when anime called Miyu "transfer student from Finland", its because Luvia sort of adopted her into Edelfelt family or something?(iirc)
Masky
Anyway, so regardless of subjective experiences, does anyone have a clue why Luvia Edelfelt is a Finn anyway? .-. I'd have thought she is anime British... Is there actual reason besides "let's pick random European country"?
Masky
Yeah I wouldn't mind message deletion on those ones
AidanAK47
If you want I can delete those messages. Anyway this chatbox refreshes every two minutes so you might need to refresh the page to see new posts.
Masky
I mean, like, you pointed out that I was talking about superficial stuff right before I point out that I was referring to superficial stuff :'D So yeah, blergh, wasted time writing that
Masky
Also ah dang it, you posted something right before I posted it so you just ninja'd me .-.
Masky
Meant to write "(so countries that aren't England, German, France-)" xD
Masky
Oops typo there
Masky
Well yeah, I haven't checked how many times each of different European countries are mentioned in variety of Japanese media, all I said was that out of lesser known countries(England, German, France, Spain, etc) I have seen Finland referred most and that weirds me out xD
AidanAK47
Anyway I get what you mean but I feel you just focus too much on drawing connections on a superficial level. If you simplify something down you can draw connections between anything but it's the details that make all the difference.
AidanAK47
@Masky, But whats the point of making a statement if that statement isn't true or at least holds ground? Generalized statmements are annoying because they are often said in ignorance because the one making the statement hasn't bothered to verify it and is basing it entirely on an unreliable and selective memory.
Anonymous58340
Things that are generally true tend to be true generally
Masky
This is why generalized statements are annoying, because someone always take them too seriously and nitpicks "but it doesn't happen that often" or "when you say always it isn't always" xD
Masky
I dunno why I bother sometimes, since its not like you want to understand what I mean anyway : D
Masky
@Aidan: Bah, meanie~
afgm
the technology isn't super refined yet, but it definitely has the potential to make drawn animation obselete
afgm
The setting is especially enriched by the CGI
afgm
Berserk is amaaaziiing! Oh my god! The animation is so detailed, movement wise! You can't get that with drawings.
afgm
@SuperMario: lol yeah
AidanAK47
@Mario, That sucks. Though I often find realistionships too troublesome to bother with.
AidanAK47
@Masky, no you often don't. You tend to make random generalized statements. Hence why I assumed this was also a generalisation based on small cases. And it still is.
SuperMario
But Flowers of Evil is a great series, I agree
SuperMario
@afgm: you talking 'bout the anime, right? Because the events after the anime are when sh!ts just got real.
afgm
It's one of my favorite series
afgm
@SuperMario: Flowers of Evil is anti-romance, but it is a celebration of love apart from it. Nothing makes me more hopeful than to watch a protagonist recover from a prolonged and debilitating manic episode.
Masky
So I guess technically she does have Finnish name even though it doesn't really sound like it to my ears...
Masky
Just to note Luvia is tiny municipiality here, never heard of it before though. Edelfelt sounds like it has Swedish origin, but it is name that is name of apparently somewhat famous Finnish painter. I haven't heard of that guy, but I don't really know many Finnish painters because I'm not into art history.
Masky
Joking aside, like I said, Finland is mostly mentioned in otaku pandering material for some bizarre reason. For example, I once saw review of game that is about stripping vampires(not hentai game, can't remember name though) and I noticed it had one random Finnish character who actually did have Finnish name.
Masky
@Aidan: Hah, take that for being arrogant "its on your head" : D I know what I'm talking about most of the time
SuperMario
But isn't it fitting that the anime/manga I'm currently following is Flowers of Evil, a pretty much anti-romance manga. Well, might as well write a reflection on the manga if I feel up to it :)
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I wish I were joking, but it's okay. I don't want to bring the atmostphere of the shoutbox down by my personal affairs.
@afgm: thanks man. Well I'm just keep moving on, no use thinking back too much on that.
Kaiser Eoghan
Oh. whoa whoa, I thought Mario was taking the piss/joking with that post...thought wrong.
afgm
@SuperMario: That sucks man. How are you holding up? I know long distance relationships can be hard to maintain -- it gets pretty lonely.
Kaiser Eoghan
Really glad to see that Vinland saga has gotten properly good again, it was starting to get back on track slowly but surely, now it, with this new chapters revelation fully has,
Kaiser Eoghan
Ireland was mentioned in Nabari no ou and an episode of original gundam, two of gundam 00s characters are Irish.
Kaiser Eoghan
I don't like generalized statements, much prefer Colonelized ones actually.
Kaiser Eoghan
There was a dating sim adaptation by studio deen in 2003 that did a girl of the week format, one of the girls was finnish.
SuperMario
Just broke up with my girl after 3 years. Figure that it never works out for a long-term relationship... (That's a generalized statement right there)
AidanAK47
So that's one. Can't say I remember seeing Finland elsewhere besides that show where all the countries are turned into anime characters.
AidanAK47
Luvia Edelfelt is from Finland?! Well damn you learn something new every day.
AidanAK47
And now I find a screenshot of them saying Miyu is from Finland. Which is weird because nothing of the sort was mentioned in the manga.
AidanAK47
Most I seen was anime characters saying Norway which was generally used as a means of saying NO WAY.
AidanAK47
@Anon48363, its sad that when I see a comment like this my first reaction is suspecting its a Bot. Thanks though.
@Masky, nope. No they didn't. I think this may be in your head.
Anonymous48363
Been enjoying the site for 7-8 years, if not longer. Thank you for your efforts in keeping the editorial line intact wrt reviews and happy to discover new content in the process. Keep up the good work!
Masky
Anyway, speaks of your "high taste" I guess. Finland gets brought up in some of otaku fanservice material for some bizarre reason. I'm weirded out by that since Finland is most obscure backwater place I've seen mentioned most out of other obscure countries xD
Masky
Of course it is possible I'm remembering wrong too(and did read wrong) and they did mention it only once :P
Masky
How funny you say that and then mention that weird magical girl spinoff right after wards xD The part where they introduce Miyu to rest of class has teacher saying she is transfer student from Finland, unless I read subtitles wrong
AidanAK47
Gonna wait on the Prisma Illya episode post. Figure I cover two episodes in one considering the slow pace isn't giving me much to work with.
Got to say I thought this would give me much more to talk about.
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