Posted by psgels on 10 May 2008 with categories: Amatsuki


Well, we can already see the results of 92JeyRfcya, YS2YSUOe1cLtf, and YnXmHqtxqS being arrested. It’s been 24 hours, and there’s still no Amatsuki 06 on Share to be found. I can only guess (and thank) where the person who uploaded a version on Tokyo Toshokan got his from, but it seems that all other share-uploaders have become scared of being arrested themselves.

I’m not claiming that the illegal file-sharing is right. The reason why I still use programs as Share and Bittorrent is simply because they’re the easiest and most consistent ways to get anime. Once anime companies come with a way that can beat these, I’ll most likely switch to them. The thing is, however, that there are still people who don’t realize the irony of trying to solve illegal file-sharing with violence. Take this analogy: suppose you have a dog that doesn’t behave, and you kick it every time it does something it’s not supposed to do. Obviously, the poor thing won’t instantly turn tame, and instead you’re turning it into a wild beast.

There’s more to that than just that analogy, though. To quote Alafista, the three share-uploaders have been charged of uploading “anime like Macross, Gundam and Code Geass”. In other words, the well-known series. The thing with these shows, however, is that there’s a large enough fanbase for these shows for fans to find some kind of way to watch them in a safe, though slightly more troublesome way. Remember when that cease and desist-letter was sent to the fansubbers of Death Note? Well, I’ve never seen Death Note episodes being subbed as fast as those final two.

And indeed, Kanokon, a wildly popular show (gee, I wonder why…) arrived today on Tokyo Toshokan just as scheduled, while Amatsuki had to wait a day. And I guess that waiting a day isn’t that bad, but what about the series that are even less popular than Amatsuki? I don’t want to imagine how long the raws for Himitsu or Crystal Blaze will show up. Or the worst of all: Porfy no Nagai Tabi and Kaiba.

So, basically what the anime executives are trying to do right now is destroying a major source of international promotion for the more obscure and less mainstream series, who actually NEED this kind of attention, while the popular series are hardly affected at all and just sell themselves anyway. Imagine if the Japanese authorities would continue to smash down the illegal file-sharing circuit: all we’d get to see then are Code Geass and Kanokon, while all the other series die a slow death without ever getting the chance of being recognized. (no offence to those who love Code Geass and Kanokon, of course)

Anyway, please excuse this rambling. About this episode: Amatsuki has just kicked xxxHolic out of my top-3 of this season, and that doesn’t say that xxxHolic has become bad by all means. I don’t know exactly what it is with this series, but it consistently has me edged at the screen. There are hardly any weak moments. I really feel that the dialogue draws me in like no other, even though I only understand 50% of it. Amatsuki realizes full well that its main character is an idiot, and makes perfect use of that.

30 Responses

  1. L.A says:

    If this is true, you won’t be able to watch more than half of animes from now on unless someone else uploads instead of them(which is a suicide)
    I don’t use Shares or Whinny to watch animes so it doesn’t really matter to me.
    And I know it sounds harsh, but I think it was a right thing that they get arrested anyway.
    My only complain would be that DVDs are too expensive!

  2. Kurisu says:

    That’s not “harsh”, it’s *disgusting*.

  3. kuromitsu says:

    The problem is that executives simply don’t want to accept that times have changed, and they’re clinging to a business model that obviously doesn’t work anymore. I’m not saying filesharing and piracy is right – far from it. Piracy IS a serious problem. But there’s also the fact that Japanese anime DVDs are ridiculously expensive with very little content, too many shows are aired after midnight, and fans in other countries are very often expected to buy even 13+ episode shows based on reviews and first episodes. Companies are clinging to outdated business models that just don’t work anymore. (Why can’t more companies do what the creators of South Park did? Streaming full episodes in good quality for free, supported by ads. I definitely don’t mind ads.)

    Besides. So they’ve got Winny and Share. There’s still Perfect Dark. If they get to Perfect Dark, people will find something else. At least for popular shows. *sigh* (I wonder how long it will take for Nabari no ou to appear on Perfect Dark…)

  4. Lika says:

    Hoestly, I think the companies are just shooting themselves in the foot with this as without bittorent, there would be no way for me to watch any of my anime and get hooked. No shows to get hooked on, no money to spend on their merchandise. Duh. While I don’t support illegal bootlegging, until they can find a better method of supplying their anime to those in other countries, I’m going to keep on being illegal.

    And, um, LA, would you say the same thing if those that wre arrested DID affect how YOU watched your anime?

  5. Papilo says:

    The companies must follow Gonzo or they will fail to decrease the piracy activity. Online distribution is a reality and the cost to provide a subtitle isn’t so high.
    Is sad to say but we only knows most of the “underground” anime, such as Kaiba, because of that kind of piracy. So, or we change the current anime business model or only the blockbuster animes will be know here in occident.

  6. L.A says:

    I think I would say the same thing, yes. Honestly how can i complain?
    This case won’t stop people using Shares and Whinny and I understand that illegal uploadings will continue to happen in the future. But what we must realize is that people who are working in anime productions/markets aren’t just simply some nice volunteers who make stuff to entertain us for free. If we pay nothing to see animes then I think we have no rights to demand either.

    well this is only my personal opinion. I apologize if my comments gave anyone offense. That was not intentinal at all. And Im not forcing anyone to believe it my way, so you can believe in what you belive…

  7. Azalin says:

    It’s just that they could be earning more money, if they promoted sales in other countries or moved to online distribution.

    I live in Bulgaria, where anime isn’t sold. No matter how they stomp on piracy, I can’t start buying legal stuff, unless it is actually sold to me. I wouldn’t even know about anime’s existance without the pirates.

  8. Lika says:

    But see (this isn’t aimed at you, but at the company), they DON’T get any money. The only money they get is from the sales of the DVDs and merchandise off of the show. And they only way to get money off of that is if people buy them, and the only way people would buy them is if they like it and the only way people would like them is if they are able to WATCH it in the first place. Honestly, even though I don’t have much money, I’ve spent over a thousand of dollars on manga, figurines, DVDs, and posters on stuff that I like in where nearly all (except for, I think, Shaman King, CCS, and Pokemon) I’ve found through bittorent, or online scanlations. The two are illegal, obviously, but where they not there, there would be no way for me to spend all that money.

  9. yoshi927 says:

    I agree about the piracy thing. There’s just no better way. What about a solution like iTunes, only that doesn’t suck? They could upload the raw versions and a version with subtitles, and then have people pay a bit for it. They can make revenue off of it, and still make merchandise sales. Well, there’s probably a flaw in my model there.

  10. Wyrdwad says:

    Honestly, this is why I think Gonzo is incredibly smart for joining up with BOST TV for Tower of Druaga and Blassreiter:

    http://www.bosttv.com/gonzo/the-tower-of-druaga/episodes/

    Legal downloads of anime at reasonably good quality, released online with English subtitles on the day each episode initially airs in Japan, and costing only $2 per episode.

    This is pretty much perfect, and if more companies did this, there would be no need for piracy whatsoever. I recommend everyone support Gonzo’s efforts here, so we see more of this in the future.

    -Tom

  11. Kurisu says:

    If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.

  12. Denizen says:

    Adapt or Die, anime companies. This was another step towards perishing.

  13. Aegd says:

    “If you don’t even understand the difference between piracy and copyright infringement, you should just STFU.”

    Care to elaborate? Because last time I checked piracy was just another word for copyright infrigement of software.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_infringement_of_software

  14. Aegd says:

    I forgot to say; and has also become a term that also encompasses digital media and music.

  15. Mark says:

    Good to see the crack downs start up again !

    I buy almost all of the anime I have here in my home (hundreds of dvd’s) YES its expensive,as is ANY hobby.

    No one ever said it would be cheap.You try working hard for years on something like Stranja,pouring your heart and soul and money and sweat and blood and tears into it,only to see the ‘community’ stab you in the back and give it away for free.More and more great series are not being licensed because the distrib’s know that more and more people will just download it,promsiing to themsleves to buy it later,but most wont.Years ago,it would be insane and unheard of to see a series like Bakamatsu NOT get a full and proper license(YES god forbid,including a decent DUB),now what have we got ?? Two years out,and I am still waiting,cash in hand to buy the 6 or 7 dvd’s at 25 to 35 a crack.But,I cant because the ‘community’ (thieves,and hypocrits who have none to little respect for the hard work of others) in its infinite wisdom has helped ruin that possiblity.Any market for it was swallowed whole by the people that downloaded all those terabytes of files) More proof of this is in the fact that DVD sales are dropping like a rock,year after year,as more and more people,get clued into the torrents and megaupload,etc…as well as have the ability to get cheap high speed internet.

    I am likely older then most(39),have a job,a home,a family,and have worked hard for many years.I understand what it means to put a tremendous amount of work into something,and want to see payback from it.I have been watching this scene develop into the Monster it is for two decades plus.It needs to be killed.I dont need to download more then 2 or 3 eps to know if a series is worth my cash,most honest folks dont.Places like Boxtorrents and DAnime,and all the others
    need to die.

    There are better ways to prom ote lesser known series like Kaiba,and giving all 13 away for free via URESHI,ETC,is NOT IT !

    That many subbers are now offering HD res files is a insult on more then a few levels to the artists,and the companies making this beautiful art possible.

    These companies are in business,they are not a charity,they employ many,but every year that number drops.

    I hope to see more of this type of crackdown go on.Its out and out theft,PERIOD,and needs to see more intervention from the law.

    Some people in any community only learn the hard way,and if that means throwing them in prison and letting them out with a criminal record,then so be it.

    WTF ever happened to personal responsibility in todays world !!?!? Can’t do the time,DONT do the crime,period.Sharing this stuff,is quite plainly illegal. Obviously many in the scene have no clear concept of it.

    I was trying to figure who to adress this to,untill I noticed the name of your BLOG…..S C A B….

    Where I come from,that has a very bad connotation.Its starting to make sense
    now,given your attitude towards others
    hard work.I guess though,that I should
    not be surspised at the feedback on stuff
    like this,given the lack of almost any
    moral compass in todays younger people.

    I have discussed this with many,and age plays a huge role in the average epinion.Under 16-25 seems shocked/surprised at the crackdown,and call it ‘wrong’,those of a slightly older age group think for the most part very,very differently on it.

    Signed: Just Woke,up spelling mistakes and all….

  16. yoshi927 says:

    Um. What does it matter what the older and younger age groups think of it? Better question; what does it matter what ones you talk to? You can pick any two things and correlate them perfectly, as long as you have an inadequate sample.

    Other than that, you have a point. I disagree on a few levels, of course, but I think more people would take you seriously if you didn’t read like a Hillary Clinton supporter on a bad day. ^_^

  17. Kurisu says:

    Aegd, Wikipedia is full of shit and lies because everyone can edit it. It is also abused for propaganda and US-centric. Well, you are even pointing to the wrong article… Is anime software? No, it isn’t.

    copyright infringement -> copying without permission – which is not theft

    piracy -> copying (without permission) OR stealing goods AND selling them for profit

    Mark, you’re so full of shit, it’s not funny anymore. I guess you’re just too old to understand the world of today, so I’m not even going to bother explaining anything. It’s just funny how much you know about the current status of fansubbing even though you’re not watching them… I guess we both know who you are working for.

  18. Leshante says:

    1. Piracy – Appropriate intellectual property to gain monetary profit (selling bootleg items in convention)
    2. Copyright Infringement – Disseminate intellectual property without the consent of the rightholders but involve no monetary gain (fansubbers)

    Of course the legal statutes consider both piracy and copyright infringement illegal. But there are differences between the sprirt and letter of the law. If you really want to delve into naunces, look up the evolution of accounting regulations from the 90s up to Auther Anderson / the Sarbane Oxley Act.

    Getting back into fansubbing. I am also a bit older than typical American fans, albeit not as old as Mark #15. I have seen the progression of anime from early 90s and on. Yes, the digital revolution since ’02 has morphed into rampant and uncontrolled distribution of Japanese animation, and I agree with Mark about the studio’s inability to capture revenue and profit. HOWEVER, it is irrelevant whether it is equitable for the studios to get those profit.

    The fact is the japanese studio will never be able to capture those artifical profit. The tech genie is out and the business model with DVD as underlying linchpin is obsolete. The Japanese studios are fighting the ridiulous battles Sony/EMS fought on digital music circa 90s, and the more litigations the music studios file against hapless (but “criminal”) end-users, the more it pissed off the general mass. When Ipod and Itune were released, what happened? How come Steve Job and Mac are now the indisputed leader in digital music and have sold billions of $$$ in itune? How come Zune suck so bad it is consider a cruel joke? How much the music studios are now desperately trying to catch up on Mac with little success?

    In truth, the CD/DVD business model is now relegated into an auxillary source of revenue. Since the dawn of time, entertainers make bulk of their revenues on live performance and merchandises. As for anime, toy, figurines, console games, manga, light novel, etc will be the future for the studio’s survival. Will IP infringement continue? Of course, but the studios have to abandon the notion that they can capture all the THEORATICAL profit that’s floating around in the net.

    I personally admire those who bought all the licensed DVD. But don’t be so sanctimonious and demand that everyone have to buy DVDs or else they be damned for eternity. I bought thousand $$ of manga / legit anime figures / games. I also contribute to the welfare of the anime industry. And YES, I have ~5 terabit of dvd rip.

    One more point – There are millions of Chinese / Korean population in Japan, and the anime culture in China and Korea is as entrenched, if not more so, than the United States. Among the Chinese anime community, there are more than a few brave souls who will insure an endless supply of HD raw regardless of what the Japanese polices and bureaucrats can come up with.

  19. psgels psgels says:

    Whoa, I must thank everyone for such detailed responses. Though Kurisu: please refrain from cursing at others when you simply don’t agree with them, okay? ;)

    Also Mark: you raised some good points, until you came with the SCAB-reference. I had no intention at all to make it sound like such a word when I came up the title, nor did I feel like checking it for any innuendo.

    Also, I think there’s another reason why the demographics between 16 and 25 are more inclined to support illegal file-sharing, in that they have generally less money than your average adult with a stable job.

    This of course isn’t meant as an excuse. I’m well aware that I’m hypocritical, and the purpose of this article wasn’t to lament the fact that my source of anime has slowed down. Instead it was to highlight that the current executives need to stop biting the hand that feeds them, and instead should try to match their business model to the current situation, like others have suggested. If they don’t, then the endless amount of piracy will only continue, because most anime-fans won’t just stop downloading, just because you ask them to.

  20. Papilo says:

    Surely isn’t a matter of age. In my case I am 32 years old and in my country is hard to find anime stuff unless I import it. Well, I do have a Lodoss War OVA DVD Box and most of the blockbuster anime movies, such as Cowboy Bebop, Chihiro and Metropolis, but the point is to sustain my hobby here I have to afford three times the normal price of a DVD sold here in my country. But I bought all anime stuffs that i liked when they come to my country.

    Anyway, if we don’t want to see a crises such as the one in the music industry we must find other ways to explore anime. Gonzo is one step ahead to prevent a eminent colapse because a new business model is a need in this era of high connectivity. People can watch a video in real-time and a full DVD can be downloaded in just a few minutes. Most of people don’t do piracy because they can’t afford, but most of them do it because is fast, reliable and easy to do. So, if you turns things more difficult you’re just helping piracy. Thats why software’s piracy don’t stop.

    In the music scenery, singers and bands started to provide access to free samples of new albums. Gonzo provide a free access (youtube) for Druaga and Blasstreiser, and a paid version with better quality using bost tv and crunchy. I strongly believe that this is the new reality and those who don’t follow it will fail and go to bankrupt.

  21. Solaris says:

    The real issue here is that everybody is mistaking piracy with fansub.

    Here’s an easy to understand example:

    Piracy: i take a DVD/VHS whatever, make a copy and SELL it to you. I am taking advantage of some other’s work and you spend less money to have the good you could have obtained legally.

    Fansub: i record something from a SAT, TV, or whatever other format. I work on it and make a sub, so that you can understand the speech and PRESENT it to you. I’m putting my own work into it and you don’t spend money to have what you couldn’t have before because nobody took care of your need.

    Are there some differences, aren’t there?

    The problem of the market crackdown is easy blamed on the fansub phenomenon, that isn’t even piracy to start with. The cause are pretty much all another matters. High prices, censorship, awful adaptation for younger audience, low quality, massification.

    Who wants to buy anime will continue to do that regardless of fansub or piracy, but requires quality. Even who doesn’t usually buy DVDs, spend money in related articles.
    I have plenty of original resin kits and gashapon, and mangas to start with, together with movies, but fewrer series on DVD.

    About those poor guys who were arrested. That is the worst ever tactic to deal with the problem. Why arrest three people when there are three million people committing the same “crime”, if we can cal it a crime, of course? These nazi methods only piss of people, and arent resolutive at all. “Punish one to educate one hundred” has never worked and will continue not to work. Other people simply will avoid the problem. Is Share dangerous? Let’s change software, is Japan unsure? Let’s move to Hong Kong end so on… I feel pity for those who will suffer for everybody’s sake, but i fell pitier for japanese government who gave proof to be powerless and show they’re not able to deal with their own business

    Moreover, this is a post on Amatsuki,how did we finish chatting about piracy and stuff? o.O
    Wasn’t it better to move this topic to a proper section?

  22. Denizen says:

    Well, this comment box turned into a war of stupidity.

    – Adults being ironically immature and taking the age high ground as if it ever meant anything.

    – Wikipedia can be edited by anyone, therefore it’s obviously full of lies, because everybody who edits wikipedia is a liar and only edits wikipedia to tell lies. SERIOUSLY GUYS.

    – I buy DVDs, you should too or you’re evidently satan.

    – Fansubbers are all evil people who never give anything back to anime companies, especially not free exposure or the urge to buy merchandise.

    _ _ _

    Amatsuki was good, as ever.

  23. Mark says:

    PSGELS…

    Thank you for your thoughtful feedback,and for allwing your readers to commnet.I want to apologize for my ‘scab’ comment.That was…. somewhat out of line.

    Contrary to the beliefs of some of the misinformed on here,age and education,and employment levels,can and do play a role in this situation.I used to download subbed anime
    A LOT.I regret it,and will never try to claim
    it was the correct thing to do,but thats in the past.Arresting these three people is part of a battle,that many outside the cicrles of the content creators,will likely never understand,so be it.

    Just because the other ‘3 million’ are out breaking the laws of various countries,does not mean its ok for us to do it as well.Thats twisted logic to say the least.

    Kurisu,I used to lash out like that at people that held my stance on this topic too.That was years ago,before I grew up,and went over to Japan,and lived there.Meeting others that work in the field,and saw how devestating what we are doing really is.I dont think anyone here is ‘Satan’ for not spending large portions of thier disposable income on anime dvd’s,etc.

    But I have seen how peoples behaviours change as they leave school/Uni,and go out into the workforce,and work thier butts off for years.
    No it does not mean everything,but its certainly a deciding role in the actions of those around us.

    They usually gain a much greater respect for the work of others,no matter if its some kid waiting tables in a greasy spoon,or an artist at IG.

    I belong to an Anime club,that has over 200 members.One thing we have noticed collectively
    over the 9 years,we have met,are the things I put fourth here and above in my earlier comments.We had a round table discussion
    about this a few years back and did a servey,it showed what I tried to explain.

    Punish one,to educate one hundred does work.Go to take a trip down to any court house,and see how many are NOT being arraigned…

    More and more want everything yesterday and for free,and the anonymity of an IP address
    gives people the false impression,that what they wouldnt steal at the corner store,is just fine online as its all just zero’s and one’s
    …and heck,besides,everyone else is doing it so that must make it ok…right…well right ??

    WRONG… I am constantly amazed at what passes for morals in todays world.

  24. Solaris says:

    Mark if i record a TV program and lend it to my friend i am not doing a crime.
    Fansub is (or ‘was’ i’d say) something like that.
    It’s not related to the image of a thief who steals your ferrari for money. Do you understand it? This false image is what mass media are trying to pass you to be the truth, but it’s not.
    Fansub and anime sharing is what made anime the greatest success in the whole world. Without fansub you’d know about anime the very few childrenized shows the national TVs dish up to you.
    Fansub is a direct wire to the original japanese anime culture, without the influences of the distorted western workups.
    Real piracy is different, that is the real harm to fight. But if you don’t know the difference, and want to fight fansub instead, you’d only make piracy stronger.

  25. bobofet says:

    —————–
    Real Piracy
    —————–
    Definitely agree with Solaris…

    Real piracy are those places which create dvd;s from downloaded material and sell it as if its legit!!!!

    ——————————————
    When do I become a sale?
    ——————————————
    If I hadn’t downloaded my very first anime to watch I never would have become a anime fan in the first place…..I mean with their current business model I am definitely not a sale in their books cause its not like I would get up one day head into a comic store and buy the very first anime I saw hell I didn’t even know what anime was (I thought it was all simply cartoons which I would watch on my Saturday morning TV e.g (Aladdin and Mickey Mouse) which I grew out of years before ….

    So the point there was: I am only a sale when I actually become introduced and interested in anime.

    Would this mean that the fansub I download was form of marketing?

    Hell I would never have gotten interested in anime if I watched in on Japanese tv in raw format cause I don’t speak Japanese.

    —————————–
    Digital Age – Young vs. Old
    —————————–
    I also agree with someone above…In the digital age you need to change the business model to suit the new type of customer that exist…

    What type of customer?
    The younger generation of course you know the 16-25 year olds who are used to getting information within a few clicks instead of going to the library….hell many of the older generation have also adapted to the information age…

    So what does this mean? It means I want my product quickly, reliably and as easily as possible.

    Does DVD accomplish this?
    Hell damn no. I said I want it now not while I am at my PC. Not 1 year from now or even 5 years from now.

    Lets face it other than Blassreiter and Druga Japanese anime doesn’t get released to the public that quickly….and in the information age people want to watch things almost instantaneously.

    Well guess what?
    Fansubs are the closest thing to instantaneous (at a lag of usually 3 or 4 days for most popular shows).

    Also guess what?
    I actually do watch Gonzos anime when it comes out on crunchy role cause its quicker than Fansubs…..

    Now those that want great quality can pay extra for it and those that just want to see the anime can watch the crappy quality.

    ———————————————————————————–
    How does the above business model relate to the concept of a sale?
    ———————————————————————————–
    Lets face it please who were never going to pay of anime never will they will probably end up enjoying another thing (that was never a sale and never will be).

    So in the Gonzo model above, those watching the crappy quality aren’t a sale anyway because, they wouldn’t have bought the anime even if it was available for 50Cents.

    But guess what? this is an extra individual that might just tell someone else about anime and maybe that other person will actually pay to watch the better quality version as it comes out on the internet.

    ———————————–
    Why is I-Tunes popular?
    ———————————–
    It’s a one stop shop.

    Guess what?
    Apple is selling their software and mp3player more than the music it self. Apple is selling the convenience of downloading the music having it organized and simply loading it onto your ipod.

    ———————————————
    Concept of Value Added Sale?
    ———————————————

    Guess what?
    After people have watched an anime, they might actually buy the manga, or the figurines or the other merchandise. If a movie is released in the cinema people might actually watch it because you are getting something that a downloaded anime wouldn’t give you a damn big screen, great sound and an outing with friends. (don’t start with the falling cinema turnover that’s only cause Hollywood aren’t bringing out quality movies that people are interested in, but that’s a different issue)

    The points anyway is that you aren’t JUST selling Anime you are selling the other value added products and services associated with anime.

    Anyway
    My two cents…

  26. Kagome_chan says:

    I totally agree with you. In fact, it’s already been more than a year I’ve read your blog mostly every week and I love your texts. You should be a journalist (that’s what I do). Anyway, that’s just what I was discussing with my boyfriend the other day. Piracy, in this case, is just a way to get undercover anime series to be recognized. And the end of it without any change to the broadcasting system we have now a days would be like cutting at all all ties we have with the culture. We’d only get to see what animax and cartoon network would kindly want to bring us, and that, in my opinion, is not even 5% of what I’m used to watch. Forgive my bad english for I’m brazilian, but I just couldn’t stay quiet about this issue. I love amatsuki and I’d hate if it’d just not be possible to watch again.

  27. Carendel says:

    You have to have exposure to get noticed and eventually sell things… You just can’t get around it. There is no magic pixie that will go around and put ideas in people’s heads for you you see. I would say that the japanese anime studios outta be thanking whatever passes for their god/s for dare I say it free exposure in the form of fansubs rather then the utterly foolish stomping on one of the ways to get fansubs made. Especially with the great lack of attempts to get the anime out there for people who never in their lives would have ever noticed it existed to see in a timely and decent qualitied fashion. Its like they feel that pixie exists and will spread the joy of anime for them and they don’t need no stinkin mortals to freely give them the same…

  28. Toudai says:

    You say this series keeps you on the edge of your seat, yet you couldn’t write ONE sentence about the actual episode. What a great informative blog.

  29. Ray says:

    First off im not going to read all of the comments that people have posted but In my opinion anime needs to be more accessible to the american public. If that were to occur I am sure more and more sites that live solely off of streaming anime would die off. Gonzo is releaseing episodes on the net with subs what is keeping other companies from doing the same. Many of them have copyrights in both Japan and the US, I know it doesn’t take much time and effort to sub the series and release it on the internet at the same time or even a day later when it is released or shown on tv in japan. Sadly until that occurs or something of that effect happens people are still going to pirate anime and many other forms of media.

  30. Khan says:

    I say we should all try our best to bankrupt these companies so they’ll stop with the legal actions. Seriously, I’m so sick of them expecting us to fork over money for their shitty products. Why would I haul my ass off my computer to pay for their crappy DVDs when I can get better quality material for free and for less effort?

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@Lenlo/KT same here. It's just that AMB can't come even close to Inu, Shuumatsu or Houseki. I am no a fan of the pacing and the rest is basically just fantasy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Was worried there for a moment thinking sangatsu no lion was ending next week, turns out season 2 is 22 episodes afterall.
Lenlo
Yeah KT, watching the two together has not come out favorably for AMB for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I believe it works better in hellsing and drifters moreso to both being goofball action shows.
KTravlos
A point on the chibi in AMB. I was thinking about shows were the chibi did not bother me, and Hellsing Ultimate and Drifters (newest episodes coming out), both had deformed/chibi segments. For some reason they did not bother me. I think ABM directors have bad timing with them.
KTravlos
I have to say Ichirou Inuyashiki is very cool. Like he is really a cool character. Also I am saddened to say it but watching AMB together with Inuyashuki does not work well for AMB
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Silver: There are sad moments certainly but plenty of humour.
Anonymous1639132
Man, I sure hope Ichirou Inuyashiki and Hiro Shishigami make out, everything is just building up to that
silver
I actually have only watched one or two episodes of this season of 3-gatsu, but its rising scores and rave reviews are making me really excited! I've only put it off because it's somewhat emotionally tiring for me
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Well, after the first season of 3-gatsu ended, I did skim ahead to this bullying arc so I already know this is going to be powerful, yet the anime still wow me over and over
Anonymous1637770
Also it can be tricky selecting a season sequel since some old series had like 50 to 100 episodes, what counted as a season then?
Anonymous1637770
@Kaiser-Eoghan - It's more common in videogames (especially Capcom) than in other mediums. Megaman 2, RE 2, Street Fighter 2, Dino Crisis 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, etc.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually in a rarity, a sequel season is better than the first.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which makes my enjoyment of sangatsu so strange.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I generally do not like game/sports orientated shows.
Kaiser-Eoghan
That you slightlySuper-erMario and superwooper!
Kaiser-Eoghan
And my reaction to the show is such, that I enjoyed it enough to make such a huge pot about it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also I want Akari to be my mom and Hina is adorable without being annoyingly so and Kana Hanazawa is doing a good job voicing her.

And whoever said it is right, the op/ed songs are worth listening to, for once I’m not skipping them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
At this point it feels as if by the end of the series I’ll come off it thinking that I don’t want to say goodbye to these characters.
I don’t think as of just yet it complete lives up to honey and clovers legacy though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never cared about Harunobu initially, but recent episodes have changed this.
Dull parts of the manga are easier to get through for me in the anime due to Shaft elevating the material with one of the better uses of their visual gimmicks.
Giving the series another chance, even though I won’t fully embrace the humour, it does now and then manage to make me laugh a little.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The bullying arc centering on Hina and the shows treatment of it is better than most anime bullying stories and has provided the most emotionally rewarding aspect of the show.
Characters that are assholes like Kyouko’s boyfriend, Kyouko herself I’m finding somewhat more sympathetic and want to see more to their personal drama.
Kaiser-Eoghan
However I do genuinely think that the series does a good job of allowing dramatic moments to creep up on the viewer, that early scene of Hina crying over her mother, Rei’s family flashbacks, Akari’s concerns about Hina/the stuff with her dad, all the scenes with Kyouko do carry an effective and solid dramatic weight to them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel it starts very strong, making a great first impression, then kind of has these dull moments that make it sort of a slog at times to get through, unfortunately I have no interest in chess/shougi and no knowledge the show tries to give me is going to stick or allow me to embrace that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Through jumping back and forth between the anime and manga, I can say I have no caught up to where I will now watch March comes like a lion on a weekly basis.
Anonymous1636224
The blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki
Anonymous1636224
Mmmmmm the suffering of all those innocent people feeding his God boner, this is why I love Inuyashiki
Lenlo
Oh yeah, thats not a knock against it. Just noting they dont *need* much animation
SuperMario
Well, the nature of Mahoutsukai is slow-burned, so it makes sense they focus more on static, quiet moments
Lenlo
Was that blade 2022 thing supposed to be an example? Because I wasnt a fan. It was stylish sure, but difficult to follow.
Lenlo
Maho is a good looking show, I wouldnt call it a great animated show.
Lenlo
The issue for me is, theres just not alot being animated most of the time. Usually its a pretty slow moving anime, so most of its time is talking and still shots. It doesnt need alot of animation, so it doesnt have it.
Lenlo
@Niel, I think Mahoutsukai can have good animation when it wants to. Like the water viel in episode 10 looked good (Though im not sure how much of that was after effects)
Anonymous1635607
uhhh creepy
Anonymous1635589
the blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki so much
Amagi
I think the security is the same as here, it's just that Japanese people are less likely to rip stuff (correct me if I am wrong). It seems like ripped anime, manga and so on are basically always uploaded by Americans, Chinese people or someone else.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised heavens feel was camripped I thought security in japanese theatres was stronger.
Amagi
Yeah it's also screening in Germany, I will watch it in February, together with Heaven's Feel, Mutafukaz, Kimikoe and a few others.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*on Europa cinema
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nanoha new film to screen next February in the US, come in Europa license it for over here dammit....
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did have some down moments though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I guess contrasting Luke with his old self goes some way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Saw the preview screening of the new star wars, still feel the new trilogy stands inbetween the originals and prequels, fufills its duty as a *** star blockbuster , some genuinely hilarious high camp moments, awful tokenism, Snoke is a shit villain, but two scenes with Luke actually have a pathos to them and I liked the chase/action scenes when they happened. Nobody cares about the acting/dialogue
AidanAK47
But there are times when it goes way too far and you can barely make out what is even supposed to be happening. Or characters go so off model that they are unrecognizable. It can be immersion breaking. Much like uncanny CGI.
AidanAK47
@Niel, I do agree that it's annoying to see people complain about animation when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Like those inbetween frame screenshot people. But I will say I appreciate on model characters more so than chaotic movement. When the off model stuff suits the tone of the scene like that blade runner part, then it's fine.
niel
I also don't want to see someone imply visual=animation for the hundredth time. Are people really that ignorant of the technical/artistic aspect of the media they consumed?
niel
It just depends on what works best in given scene and the aesthetic they want to go for. People can complain all they want about off-model stuff, but if they really only want that the they won't be getting nearly as much of those impactful scenes as there are now. So many of the ways people complain about it is really irking to me.
niel
normal/low action scenes is different from being on-model during the action sequences and just the ones that need some extra impact in general. https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ?t=6m45s
niel
But that depends on the situation though. And I'd argue that being consistent and on-model during
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter/Niello/Mario: Ideally I want it both ways, fluid animation AND consistent model visuals, all the while never sacrificing choreography.
SuperMario
But really, who am I to say. I'm the dude who prefer beautiful shot composition myself
SuperMario
The same can be said with Shinkai's movies since he always prefers static, beautiful shot that people tend to overlook that his animation is quite poorly handled
Vonter
You're right, but art direction does alleviate limited animation, I mean the old Berserk anime, kinda has a lot of slideshow moments. MahoYome has nice backgrounds, and despite the samey faces, at the very least doesn't come from the same mold as other series. Still cutting corners with chibi segments is was a mistake.
SuperWooper
Is it any wonder that people prefer things to be static/on-model? They want to see characters who look consistent and familiar so they can relate to them.
Nie
MahoYome being the biggest offender of people getting triggered to any kind of statement about the show's animation not being good. And it's absurd because the show's animation really isn't great at all. It's good with distracting people with pretty pictures, but animation-wise it's still mediocre.
Nie
@SuperMario: Not much. Just stuff like "Art is part of the animation weather it's beautiful backgrounds or just amazing looking characters. It's not all about how they move. If it was, CG would be considered great animation" multiple times. I've just been finding myself being replied with these kinds of comment non-stop since the start of the season.
SuperMario
@Niello: What happened exactly, if you don't me asking?
Nielllo
If I hear someone says AMB has good animation one more tie I might actually lose it. It's amazing how people who apparently know nothing about it try to defend this and other people who don't know anything are actually supporting the guy.
Niello
So with Fate Apocrypha episode 22 out, I'm just now learning that people think webgen style is horrible and they prefer static scenes with pretty visual over actual quality animation. WTF. I can't comprehend this. Are casual people who watch animation in general really that oblivious to the art they have been watching?
Lenlo
Berserks Dynasty Warriors style game looked better. Also, Mahoutsukai should be up tonight/tomorrow. Turns out, Christmas is a busy time of year at this job.
Amagi
*worse
Amagi
Especially when you consider how good CGI can be by now, look at Houseki or Kado. But Berserk was the worst thing I saw in years, many scenes felt worst than sequences of PSX games
Amagi
@SuperMario: Same. I love Kon and also consider Paprika's OST as the best. @Lenlo: Me too. I honestly even enjoyed the movies but the new series was atrocious
Lenlo
HIRASAWAAAA! HAAAAAI YOOOOO.
I miss the 90s Berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was also quite fond of his soundtracks for Berserk. AIIIIIYE FORCES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
SuperMario
@Amagi: I'm a big fan of Kon so I've watched everything from his. Even bought a book about his works. About the soundtrack, I listened to them as well but not regularly, compare to pprika OST which I downloaded and listen to a lot
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although not completely a manga, Usagi yojimbo also has an anthro character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Millennium actress is partially inspired by the actress Setsuko Hara.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: The anthro-animal manga is even a topseller as far as I know. Haven't looked into it yet, though. Maybe I will do so.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I am still hoping Dream Machine will happen some day. Kon died believing it would happen
Amagi
@SuperMario: Have you tried the other Kon movies like Millennium Actress once? Thought they were really good and Hirasawa is responsible for the OST there too. Or Paranoia Agent which was (IMO) very good as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nttSKBJ38k (OP)
Niello
Eoghan: Enjoy... ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't read this, its very strange to see a manga about full anthro animal characters: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Beastars
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
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