Posted by psgels on 29 December 2008 with categories: Anime Reviews, Blade of the Immortal


Blade of the Immortal is Bee-Train’s latest series, based on the rumoured excellent manga of the same name. It’s a series that’s definitely not for everyone, especially fans of the manga who are hoping to see a faithful adaptation, neither is it for those who have a very slim taste in music. However, if you’re looking for a number of well-coordinated fights and engaging characters, then you’re at the right address.

The series basically follows an immortal samurai (Manji), helping a weak but determined young girl (Rin) in exacting revenge on the death of her parents. What makes this series especially worth watching is the growth of Rin, as she questions what it means to take revenge, and whether it’s going to be worth it, and what her purpose is if she just keeps going to be rescued by Manji. In only 13 episodes, she grows into a strong character, despite her weak physique. Manji himself doesn’t exactly grow too much, but instead the creators manage to flesh him out really well in a relatively short amount of time, and he becomes a fun and interesting character to watch.

Fights also form a large part in this series, and for those who were afraid that Bee-Train has lost the ability to create good action-scenes, this series is there to prove them wrong. It’s daring, but the creators decided to go for an experimental animation style for the battles. The characters look fairly normal, and the animation budget isn’t particularly high either, but the series is full of interesting and creative camera-angles and poses. Overall, it’s a really nicely choreographed series.

But the biggest experimental feature of this series is the music. Bee-Train was already know as the studio with awesome music, but they carry that even further with this series: the soundtrack is unlike anything ever heard in an anime series. Kou Otani managed to produce an incredibly varied piece of work that feels incredibly random, yet somehow works. It’s a soundtrack you’ll either love or hate.

The biggest weakness of this series? It’s too damn short! The series ends just at the point where the series is done warming up, and there’s so much potential left in it that it would be a huge shame not to have some sort of second season. Blade of the Immortal is an excellent horror-series that may not be really faithful to the original manga, but nevertheless managed to create an excellent atmosphere.

Storytelling: 8/10
Characters: 9/10
Production-Values: 9/10
Setting: 8/10

16 Responses

  1. karry says:

    “for those who were afraid that Bee-Train has lost the ability to create good action-scenes, this series is there to prove them wrong. ”

    Well, no, it proves only your lack of taste.

  2. DmonHiro says:

    Conngrats, Bee-Train, you butchered Another great manga. After GONZO goes bankrupt, I hope you are next.

  3. DmonHiro says:

    BTW: Soul Eater, episode 28, Fate/Stay Night, episode 14. THOSE are well coordinated fights. Not the snooze, wierd camera angled, “fights” in this.

  4. goody says:

    fact is, the anime IS faithful to the manga, as far as the storyline is concerned. But it’s so poorly realized there’s no point in following it. You really must HATE mangas to prefer watching this pile of horse-shit instead of the awesome manga.

    anyway, i think they’ll continue it sometimes in the future. As of now, the manga is in its final stages. But with 13 episodes it barely covered the first 5 vols, so it’s gonna be 13*3 more episodes AT THE LEAST if they wanna do the entire manga storyline justice.
    i agree that this isn’t an ending, more like a trailer for the next part of the manga (which is probably the best in the entire manga).
    Anyway, i can only hope the remaining part of the story will pass to another, more gifted, animation studio.

  5. Shirachi says:

    @karry: Someone’s a little bitter.

  6. Anca says:

    I can see where the bee-train bashers are coming from, being a fan of the Tsubasa manga…

    But not having read and not intending to read Blade of the Immortal, I find the anime amazing. Without the classy camera shots, Bee-Train’s typical characterisation and the music… it just seems a dull concept to me. In fact, if you look at it objectively and ignoring the prejudice, it’s one of the best series that aired lately.

    Bee-Train are really a good studio. Sure, they have their misses, but everyone does. Sure, the don’t adapt manga as well as we would want them to, but others don’t as well. Most of my favourite manga have been ‘butchered’ by their anime counterpart, and it wasn’t always Bee-Train.The adaptations are very, very rarely as good as the original.

  7. tzhuge says:

    I haven’t watched the series (except a few min), but I am a big fan of the manga. It seems to me that appeal of the manga is very much tied to the medium. The art is ridiculous, and there is something very special about the panels of details. The mangaka has classical art training and it really shows, specifically in the pencil ‘special attack’ pages. That just does not translate well to animation, so I think the best thing to do for an adaptation is to do something different.
    Also, strip the manga of the art, and there is not a whole lot there. The entire plot can be summarized to a few paragraphs, and there are a lot of throw-away characters. Over time, the series has built up a substantial cast of fleshed out and dynamic recurring characters, but I think a lot of that happens after the events in this anime. There’s also shades of a more substantial story with the Ittou Ryou now that Rin and Manji are off the warpath, but again that’s after the events covered by this anime. I think it’s clearly a case of the mangaka growing in ability over the course of a manga.What I’m trying to get at is that some people perhaps have unrealistic expectations of what an anime based on Boti can be (and specifically one that only covers the early volumes).

  8. goody says:

    sure, the beginning in boti is quite simple, no one said otherwise. But it’s strenght are undeniable. It’s possibly the best modern revenge flick (excluding Lone Wolf and Cub) that’s ever come out of Japan, almost certainly the most complete (Rin’s pov shifts so many times during the manga…. XD).

    Besides, this first part is fundamental to question the ethics of revenge, because later it will become more character driven and not themes driven. That’s why i said they’ve done a bad job….. simply because it’s so…. well…. dull! They cut a lot of dialogue, lessening the impact of characterization(making manji seem a stuck-up prude in the process! and wasting time showing Giichi, Hyakurin, Shiira & co when not needed….), you said “classy camera angles”, then i say “copied from the manga camera angles”, ’cause beetrain isn’t really inventing anything on their own….. they’re doing, basically, a step by step conversion of the manga, but without the flair an anime can and SHOULD add (see Kurozuka anime for example, in comparison to its own manga). BotI manga, as you said, is very much tied to its own medium, stretching the boundaries of what can be shown on a page and HOW. The anime…… is a dull and plain version of this.
    sure, the characterization remains, the storyline starts slow (exactly like in the manga), but it’s the way it’s put to screen that really brings it down.

  9. Gargamuza says:

    *Bee Train hate post*

    Blade of the Immortal anime sucks, it sucks as an adaptation, and it would suck even if it didn’t ruin an awesome manga.

    It boggles my mind how you can like Bee Train, really. I could expect it from some random weeaboo with terrible taste, but you actually seem to like good anime too. It’s a mistery.

  10. windy says:

    It was a particularly good anime, though I couldn’t find subs after ep 8. But it seems there’ll be another season cause it’s not finished at all, we don’t know what’s going to happen to all the chrters the characters and it ends right by one sentence of Manji, far from being enough but I must say I wasn’t thrilled at watching it till about a good half of the series ( pb of subs most likely)but then I grew to like it more and more , I and loved the last three episodes, they were awesome in many ways, and just when start loving this show it ends, quite ironical! I cross my fingers for a second season to come soon! It needs it ! Besides, Vampire Knight was obviously unfinished in the 1st season, and they made the 2nd one so there shoud be no doubt. Interesting characters and good plot centered on the two lead chrters: a good series to enter the worlds of samourai, actually it has some similarities with samourai gun, because it’s the same period I guess.

  11. klo says:

    Just to clarify it, Bee Train IT’S NOT A GOOD STUDIO. I know a lot of people liked the .hack series, Madlax or Noir but seriously how can people confused boring dialog and animation with “slow” character development and storytelling?? It’s not the same and it’s just pretentious… Mushi-shi it’s a slow series with philosophical themes, .Hack//Sign it’s just stupid teen angst. Also, they have the most poorly edited and directed animes out there next to Gonzo, they’re ALL THE SAME: terrible camara angles and an even worst musical timing, and let’s not forget Ali Project the recurrent Bee Train band who can only sing the same song over and over…. my God, I really hate this studio…

  12. psgels psgels says:

    Klo: you’re of course entitled to your opinion on Bee-Train, even if I completely disagree with it, but let me ask you a few things regarding that ALI Project comment you made:

    – Have you even heard the .Hack//Roots soundtrack? If not, then go here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vokOclT7lAQ and tell me what part of this song sounds like the typical ALI Project sound.
    – The ALI Project only worked for three of Bee-Train’s series. The rest was done by other composers. Even this series didn’t have anything to do with them.

  13. panther says:

    I like the series (and will not read the manga). I think you have to appreciate how blunt and direct it is without feeling obtuse or like it is really cutting corners and too 2 dimensional , I do find Rin a bit annoying sometimes (who I think is 16 not 14 since 2 years passed since she was 14 right?) but she is just a kid. The pacing is really odd, the way the episodes unfold, how unclimatic the fights can be without being bad. And though it might be seen as bloody or graphic it’s not like it goes out of its way to show you, like Claymore, or you know like Akira (not dissing those just making a point). The series is a bit funny in its own dark way (like Manji carrying his foot in his robe, Rin trying to be sexy, or how they go ask to one guy just say your sorry and its all good, and he just basically goes no way I AM EVIL, I just happen not to suck at being a dad KILL ME, boy your dad sucks because he cheated me so I killed him, cuz I’m just like that). Worst thing about is the short run and some lackluster action, best thing is how Manji is just a reckless thug but not a complete idiot and how Rin is a damsel in distress but not a hopeless bimbo and endearing in how conflicted she is but it doesn’t bombard you with flashbacks or mundane emo repetitive “THIS IS MY RESOLVE” dialogue (making fun of Ichigo in Bleach). Worth an 8 I think.

  14. Aza says:

    I just found out it existed in DVD form and ordered it…i’ve got fairly high hopes, I need something else like Samurai Champloo and the manga is freaking amazing – REALLY well done, next im gonna pick up Uzumaki (the film sucks)

    and I’ve just got Ikigami and thats pretty good but on the animation front there seems to be a lull as far as good action goes….(any times?)

    – I need to finish my spawn series collection but the last part is over £20 and I just can’t justify that for like 3-4 episodes…as it goes this was less than £10 delivered and thats sweet for me, even if it doesn’t do the manga justice…I do already hope to see more…

    Oh and I don’t know if anyone saw Heat Guy J but that was really, really awful..lol…as was .hack, didnt need to see much o’ that to see how shit that was…

    any tips for whats actually good out there?

  15. luke says:

    why only 13 episodes just gettin good whens the next season coming out

  16. KeiDub says:

    If you pay attention those “interesting” angles that people like to bash on so much are actually straight copies of the panels in the book. A good 3/4 of this show is basically ripped straight from the books, as for the rest…well, there are parts in the book that really arent fit for TV, and if it were to stay completely true the manga those 13 episodes prolly would have only been able to cover the first couple books.

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I've just watched Alien 3, the only Alien movie I hadn't seen do to the diviseness towards it. I think I went with the best expectations considering now on hindsight newer movies have made it look more competent, having more weight. This movie has characters, integrates the religious motiffs better, the Alien more than a closet monster is a formidable force of nature.
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@Anon: Uzumaki, Shibito no Koe o Kiku ga Yoi, Happy Suger Life, 6000 and Dead Tube. I suppose.
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What is some good horror manga
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@Mario I also noticed that korean thrillers are way too obnoxious with shakycam.
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@Mario, about LWA, that was how I felt. Its just not as magical, as special, as the original OVA was to me. I suppose thats to much to ask for a 25 ep series, but it turned me off
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@Mario, TV Diana has some charm points but I think OVA Diana provided a better dynamic. I mean sure, She was essentially female Draco Malfoy but her attitude made reveals like her being a secret Chariot fan more impactful. Plus her tsundere act torwards Akko was rather adorable.
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about LWA again, unlike Aidan I actually enjoy this version of Diana. I know she's one note, too perfect but she's charming. Too charming haha which serves well as a contrast to Akko
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...just pop one random film from him. His films are not without its bad side thou, in particular I find the dialogues shapeless and dragging. But well it does add to the naturalness of his films
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@Lenlo: about LWA. Plus side: Those hijinks. I mean the show is fun and magical. Negative side: I wish the show's storytelling is a bit tighter, each episode feels so loose it doesn't add up much and more like different variations of Akko + one member of the cast's hijink. Doesn't help either that the other casts just disappeared until they have an episode for 2 for themselves
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@SuperMario KyoAni fan? What did you think of Kyoukai no Kanata? I really wanted to like it, I thought it had some potential, but IMO nothing worked right.
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@Lenlo, It's good. Fun to watch certainly. Though sadly it falls short of being great.
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@Mario: Well then, thanks for the rec on Hong-sang-so, I looked at The day he arrives. Y'know the reason I sometimes dread going into films featuring romance is because I'm conditioned from seeing the bad ones.
Kaiser-Eoghan
....I may actually read this, the last time I read a manga steeped in politics was Sanctuary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eagle:_The_Making_of_an_Asian-American_President
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I actually have very limited experience with Ellis as a comic book writer, only read Transmetropolitan, I know he's writing the Castlevania adaptation.
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@Aidan: I heard the same thing; can't help being a completist though so I'll eventually get to them
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@Mario, From what I heard, it doesn't get better.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: that scene from the 1st episode of Phantom world lost me... but even then I'm willing to give the show another chance. That's how far I would go ^^ https://mobile.twitter.com/aaapodcast/status/687148875052892160/photo/2
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Looks like they are putting some real effort into it. May actually turn out pretty good after all.
@K-Off, Under the Red hood is a damn fine movie. Likely one of the best of the DC animated universe. Though try Superman vs the elite out. It's pretty good.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Even phantom world Mario...even phantom world ? =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Just the teaser trailer, not much to go on, but heres a short preview of that netflix castlevania thing that got mentioned on here a while back, up the quality to 360p:
SuperMario
At this stage, I'm pretty much KyoAni fanboy now so with every new material, I'll hype it up to the sky ^^
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@Mario: I did follow it up with The spy who loved me though to cheer myself up =P Given that Rodger Moore just died =)
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@Kaiser: just looked through what Short Men Behind the Sun is about: "human experiments carried out by Japanese army during WW2?" Already sound grim and too real. Then "a graphic depiction of the human experiments" haha no wonder you felt unsettled Kaiser
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My favorite Exploitation Flick is An Inconvenient Truth 2.0
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@Mario: Long story short men behind the sun is finally the exploitation flick that defeated me and actually made me unsettled.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I remember you talking about how Salo really affected you as an exploitation film, generally exploitation films don't shock or disturb me, but I just watched the cantonese dubbed version of Men behind the sun.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And the worst thing about beyond the boundry and phantom world, it discolours my opinion of kyoani as a whole, making me negatively reflect on older work they did .
AidanAK47
Yep, that's the new KyoAni one. Like Puran I don't have any expectations of it. The premise certainly seems like the closest they have come to breaking out of there usual format but I am sure they will find a way to shove in Moe antics. Though based on what is seen so far it looks like they are trying to emulate Key.
Puran
Is that a new KyoAni anime?.. I have lost faith in them a long time ago. Last Anime from them that I cared about was probably Hyouka
SuperMario
Bring you some news, Violet Evergarden will be aired as an anime TV. Though many sources saying it gonna air this year, it has a better possibility to air next year
SuperMario
Well, aesthetically, he's pretty much on par with Yang and Wong. It's just that his films are often emotionally distant, feel more like watching the paint dry hahaa
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I connect more emotionally with Yang and Wong.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I went in expecting Edward Yang and Kar-wong-wai levels of quality, which may have been quite unfair standards to put him up against.
SuperMario
I myself find his films difficult to watch, but when the films end they usually hold up very very well. Both The Assassin and 3 Times in particular are my favorite of the year
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I completely understand your reaction because his films are demanding as hell. I remembered watching The Assassin in big screen, 3 people next to me fall asleep, one of them snoring and the other one fall asleep within the first 10 mins. That Hou Hsiao's movies for you
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Its such a shame because he makes gorgeous cinema and City of sadness is actually pretty informative account of the times....I just can't jive with him and I actually like "slow cinema" but watching his work is insanity inducingly boring for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: ....I'm really sorry, I don't mind long slow even spiritual, talky, non-narrative, old, complex,meditative , art films but I'm really really finding it hard to watch Hou Hsiao's work, I've tried time to live and the Assassin and I just bailed after 2 out of 3 hours on city of sadness.
KTravlos
I have to say Akko is developing nicely as a character in LWA. Also Magane in Re:Creators reminds me of Hannibal as palyed by Mads Mikkelsen. There is that same est for life married to sociopath that is a bit charming :) Mamika's character is also just cool. Beyond that AofT and Bahamut both delivered competent episodes, with Bahamut a good mix between comedy and tragedy.
K-Off
@Aidan Assault on Arkham was fantastic. Between that and Under the Red Hood, a classic.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I have a lot to say in this week's Eccentric Family. Review will come up later tonight when I get back home from work.
AidanAK47
Seen Assault on Arkham or what it should be called, The animated Suicide Squad movie. Thinking of checking out Dark.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Have you seen assault on Arkham or the justice league dark film?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: It isn't so much because its Talia x Batman, moreso that it feels odd shipping Batman with anyone.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While kind of amusing, initially I wasn't too into Uchouten this week, the hot spring part got me groaning, but then someway through dramatically it really picked up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
From reading comics a few years back, I still feel that they adapt better to animation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: And I say this as someone who was able to defend Alien 3 and Ressurection.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Covenent felt like an Infantilized version of Alien.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wouldn't call either John Wick film or free fire amazing or anything but they had great fight scenes that were actually visually coherent , of course they weren't given a proper release.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not watching/paying for anymore of these reboots/remakes/shakey cam pg rated action films anymore. I'll stick with my balls to the wall Hong-Kong/Chinese ones.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: It also had really uneven pacing aswell.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: ....The dialogue is so embarassing, they don't do enough with this backstory, they just keep teasing, none of the new characters have the same charisma , the editting in the action scenes shakes all overtheplace.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: I gave Covenent a fair chance, I thought it would be an exception to the reboot thing. I'll admit theres the sets, the atmosphere, Fassbenders performance , the idea to expand on the franchises mythos is cool but....
Kaiser-Eoghan
It really really hurts as a film fan, trying to find older, genuinely quality foreign films , finding that no-one is seeding them and theres no proper/in print dvd release anymore. Then finding some awful shakey cam modern American superhero film with billions of seeds and a bluray release.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I don't know. Todd was more the imperfect son always aiming for batmans approval. Damian is more an assasin wondering why the hell he can't just kill his enemies. I hear that Comic Damian works better than Animated Damian. I do think that if given a personality he could work but as he is currently you are right that he's essentially a mishmash of past robins.
Vonter
I watched Alien Covenant and I don't know if it improves by being more dumb and less pretentious or if it os the final nail in the Alien franchise coffin. Not since the StarWats prequels there has been a retcon that changes your view of the original movies.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can recall enjoying a certain Jason Todd centered story called Batman:death in the family.
K-Off
Well, even when Damian does completely cross the line and become a villain, he's not even that interesting, i.e Injustice. Yup, Jason Todd already covered everything, but better.
AidanAK47
Problem is that he's an edge lord cocky piece of shit that just doesn't have enough likeable traits for this to be compelling. What really pushed him over the edge was mocking Nightwing over his parents deaths. That shit is not on.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I like the contrast that Batman refuses to cross the line and kill but Damian has crossed that line. As well as his potentail to become a villain. Tim and Dick didn't really have that though Jason sort of did. Damian's arc is more about teaching him the morality of a hero.
K-Off
@Aidan I'm not sure I like Damian's concept to begin with. The Bat-son dilemma's inherently addressed by the Robins for all intents and purposes. Damian just goes through the same motion, only difference being he's biologically related.
K-Off
Yup. Wonderwoman either doesn't need to have a love interest, or it needs to be with Steve Trevor, the two have a solid backstory that the movies unnecessarily removed.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, I don't mind the Taila X batman pairing. Makes more sense than Batman and Batgirl. But if there's one pairing pushed in the new movies that I just find wrong is the Superman X wonder woman. I just don't get that one.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I like the concept of Damian as a character. But it's executed so badly.
Anonymous1105941
Teen titans needs one more season to wrap up all the loose ends. Such as what happens to Slade, and Blackfires revenge. The creators clearly wanted to explore those plot lines but got cut short.
K-Off
Teen Titans hasn't aged very well, but one thing I still do like about it is how contained and local the setting and cast were for the first half of that show. When godly superpowers are involved, that appeals to me. Much of the same reason why I like Logan and Raimi's Spiderman so much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Very rarely watched teen titans when I was younger, I was vaguely interested in slade, stopped watching around when Terra appeared. I actively avoided comics where Damien appeared, never liked that Talia x Batman pairing much, I can only imagine how much worse it is to listen to Damien than read him.
K-Off
@Aidan, I like some aspects of those movies, but I'm not a big fan of the new continuity and art style in general...and yeah it doesn't help that Damian is irredeemably unlikable.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, There is also the DC animated Teen Titans movies like Teen Titans vs Justice Leage and Teen titans the Judus contract. Though it's not the same as the the TV series and Damian is such a dick.
K-Off
@Anon I don't think Teen Titans needs another season. The last season wasn't that good, but the movie ended the series on a high note and Young Justice pretty much rebooted everything, at least in terms of replacing people's want for a more mature DC cartoon about the Titans.
K-Off
Yeah it's become more of a hassel (for myself and my friends) to set aside time to go to a theater.
SuperMario
I guess in the end it all comes down to how easily it reaches the viewers. Give us a hard time and we don't give a damn to check the new movie/show out
SuperMario
... otherwise have to wait for a year, even more before it reaches Australia. But many companies will raise in the wake of Netflix and that will be where problems arise
SuperMario
This trend isn't happening within the anime industry, but it's happening in the movie world as well. In the past 2 years, Netflix starts to exclusively distribute many films, meaning that they won't have theatrical release, but straight to Video on Demand which caused quite a stir in the industry. Personally, I actually don't have much problem with it as now I will get a chance to see a film that
SuperMario
Dive!! , a series that will air next season on noitaminA slot will stream exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. Not that I'm eagerly looking forward to Dive, but that news again makes me frustrated. No one will watch it and then all the hypes it might have will die down eventually.
Anonymous1105394
Considering I didn't even expect a season 5 it's more than I could've evr wanted. Now if only if only Teen Titans could get the same chance.
Lenlo
Oh yeah, it turned out well. Didnt mean to say it didnt.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, Considering that the ratio of great to alright episodes is 8 to 2 I say that it turned out pretty well.
Lenlo
I have to say, the Samurai Jack season started stronger than it ended imo
AidanAK47
So this is how Samurai Jack ends. 16 years in the making. Honestly considering how much needed to get wrapped up I knew the ending would be a bit flawed. Really think Gen should have givin it one more episode to flesh out the ending and then it wouldn't feel so rushed. Overall despite it's flaws, it's a decent ending. Not prefect by any means but it will do the job.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Lol theres a surprise, seriously, Black Lagoons manga is updating again.
KTravlos
worst recap ever for me? Gangsta. That was a stupid recap episode. Really like a Public Announcement. Useless, stupid, and ruining atmosphere. Utter stupidity. There I got it our of me :p
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: Unfortunately too far behind in the sequel manga to catch up, I did take a look at THAT in the latest chapter though.
Masky
Huh, for some reason thought Tokyo Ghoul was under shonen when its seinen. Welp now that makes more sense, I was thinking story about cannibalism would be kinda absurd for shonen.
Spike
They serve no purpose except to fill airtime when production gets fucked up. They have 2 bad choices - run a recap or run an unfinished episode. Recap is generally the less dogshit choice. I've seen a few anime that ran the episodes with unfinished animations and still frames.... the backlash was about 100x what a recap is.
SuperMario
I'm about to say that to you as well Kaiser, maybe watch the recap and then continue on. The only thing I kind of take from the recap episode is the editting: how they chop off the fat of 6 episodes to still give you important developments. But as a way to catch up/ to reintroduce the series, it's freaking useless
Anonymous1104087
I don't think anyone should start from the recap episode. Unless there was a long hiatus, a recap in between episodes is unnecessary for new viewers and old
Lenlo
I mean, aside from whatever happens with Mugaro.
Lenlo
Next episode seems early, out of 24 episodes, for Nina to learn the Prince is Chris, yet that seems to be what the confrontation is leading towards, and then she freaks out and he learns shes the dragon. Becomes the conflict for the rest of the season?
Lenlo
Seems I was right, Azazel didnt predict that Nina might not be so easily riled up as she once was. To bad so sad Azazel, she has someone she loves now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
How useful are these recap episodes anyway/actually? Hypothetically lets say I was feeling lazy and decided to watch tsuki ga kirei starting from the recap episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
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Lenlo
So long as there are consequences for how hes acting, then I am ok with it. I just dont want him to turn into some MC hero when hes acting like this.
AidanAK47
And in Re:Creators Sota is still being a goddamn pussy. Now that the exposition has gone down I am really starting to hate this kid.
SuperMario
It's the presentation that they differ. Ghost Hound focuses more on the atmosphere, so those details I mentioned before work for their benefits; whereas Sagrada Reset focus on plots (and confusing themes) so those stick out like sore thumb.
SuperMario
4 episodes into Ghost Hound so far. This show also reminds me a bit of Sagrada Reset this season- the way they both emotional distant, complex plots; keep viewers away at arm's length, and feature characters that have robotic facial expressions. Yet I enjoyed Ghost Hound so far and couldn't engage in Sagrada Reset at all.
SuperMario
@Spike: I was like... "tsuki ga kirei has a recap episode, so let's move on to Kado"... another recap. Tsuki ga kirei I'm not too worry as it confirmed that it'll have 12 episodes, but I'm not confident on Kado
SuperMario
@lenlo: in a sense you have to suffer it all alone. No worries thou as I intend to binge watch it when this season's over
Spike
Kado team crumbled under the pressure. Recap this week.
Lenlo
@SuperMario, im happy I dont have to compete with anyone to cover Berserk :P Got it all to myself to whine about, though its been ever so slowly improving.
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