Posted by psgels on 16 March 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews, Casshern Sins


One of the most unique series to start airing in the past Fall Season was Casshern Sins: a remake of a super robot series that aired in the seventies, but one that went into a completely different direction with just about everything. The result is a highly stylish series with lots and lots of things to like about it.

If there ever was an award for “Best Character-Designs”, then this series would be one of the top contenders. The art style in this series is really unique, and in fact it’s one of the most outstanding ones I’ve seen in the past few years. Just about everything in this series is a visual feast, ranging from the wonderfully drawn characters to the astonishingly beautiful background art. The animation quality itself isn’t anything special for most of the time, but it doesn’t need to be: this series is beautiful enough, even without a huge budget.

This series also stands out in its style of storytelling. The dialogue flows very naturally, and yet it’s deep, meaningful and very inspired without trying to sound pretentious. The pacing is deliberately kept slow in order to squeeze all of the potential out of the characters. It really was my favourite part of this series, because the dialogue flows in this series unlike any other series I’ve seen.

Casshern sins is a series about destruction and immortality, and a quite thought-provoking one as well. while mystery isn’t its main focus, it asks lots of interesting questions throughout its airtime that keep the viewer busy. As the lot unravels more and more, it really is the type of plot that requires the user to think in order to understand it all, because not everything is spoon-fed on a silver platter.

However, do note that this isn’t a series that only gets better and better. It’s divided into two halves: the first half is basically a travelling series, where the main character meets lots of different people. The quality is pretty inconsistent: some of the best and worst episodes of the series can be found here. In the second half, the main story kicks in, and the series becomes much more consistent: it pretty much continues at a steady pace, it never hits any lows, but also any heights are absent. This can become disappointing if you were hyped by some of the truly outstanding episodes in the first half. It’s the sign that the charcter-development never really came together in the end, although it definitely tried.

The only other flaw of this series is a rushed ending, though. The creators just didn’t take enough time for that final episodes, and the twists just come too fast to make the impact they could have had. But still we have ourselves an excellent series here. It’s fresh, original and imaginative despite based on a 1970s series. It doesn’t quite have the material to become an outstanding series, but it nevertheless has been a delightful watch for me for the past six months.

Storytelling: 9/10
Characters: 8/10
Production-Values: 10/10
Setting: 9/10

34 Responses

  1. Howling-kun says:

    Finally a 10/10 on Production Values there. :D

  2. IK says:

    definitely the most visually pleasing show in a long time.

  3. Snowolf says:

    Lol, I’m going to have a long review as well…but I agree with you on many parts, if not all things you’ve pointed out. :D
    I totally agree with fact that the ending was seriously rushed. If they had just gotten one or two more episodes..!!! But for so many crammed things in so little time, it did well. There are just so many loose ends that bother me. Like, the whole “I’ll be back yo” thing. They didn’t need to introduce that! And what happened to the Angel of Ruin? Weren’t they supposed to meet one day? (Ahem: like the end of the series perhaps?) And Luna still remains a mystery: both a positive and negative thing. The whole show is thought provoking, and very subtle- a quality that sadly most animes don’t have these days. The show really makes you think and connect the characters, their small but impactful dialogue, and such a deep development amongst such chaos. It’s a pretty and poetic portrayal of harsh magnitudes, and that’s what Casshern Sins excels in: exalted unity.
    I really did love seeing Ringo grow up though. That was a great concept. But like you said, they should have done that when they tied up all the loose ends. If given more time, i’m pretty sure CS would have been a jawdropping, morbid, OMGNOWAI kind of ending. I’m just sad that they didn’t give it one more episode/20 more minutes….

    In terms of art, Casshern Sins is like…delicious. I’ve never seen such a more daring style than this show, and the colors among with the harsh, crude lines just balance each other out. CS has one of the best arts I’ve seen in an anime, regardless of its reused cycles and low budget. Truly, CS deserves some merit for stretching the boundaries of what defines a classic and amazing anime. :D I’d give it a 93-95 because the second part was just so slow and expected. It was good, decent, but it lacked any awesome surprises that the first half had. And also taking points of such a slow start. The first time I watched CS it seemed like the worst thing created, but I bent my argument and watched it anyways. I’m glad now that I’ve made that choice.

  4. Windspirit says:

    The 10/10 in production values was highly deserved.

  5. midenz says:

    id gve it about u gave, pretty much wat u said was true xDD. anyways, great series. i totally enejoyed watching your reviews den watching the actual episode xdd except for the SPOILER one x] ! great job the reviewing the series, was great !

  6. TJ says:

    Definitely the most stylish series of the season. Excellent visuals and music. Too bad about the story pacing though.

  7. Chris says:

    It ended already? Spring truly is around the corner.

    Thanks for your dedication in blogging this series! I enjoyed every moment.

  8. TCoFA says:

    I pretty much agree with everything you said, except for one thing, the 90 points. Maybe it’s just me but I was always thinking in the direction of 6 = ok, 7 = entertaining, 8 = good, 9 = outstanding and 10 = impossible.

    I’d put casshern sins somewhere in the high 7’s or low 8’s. Enjoyable to watch, sometimes even really good, but the overall series didn’t ever reach a certain height when it comes to quality.

  9. Solaris says:

    Hi i’m back after a while and i’m here to give kudos to CxL. He was right: this serie absolutely doesn’t compare to the old one. There’s no connection, it’s all another setting and situations depicted.

    This Casshern is more similar to the live movie with its long and tedious rants against war and human myseries. Meaningless visual feast end cheap morals. To boring.
    It yet seemed to me another failed attempt to bust an average bad show with an old winner char.

    I didn’t watch to te last episode but yet i don’t expect too much. Everything was wrapped up in the last couple of episodes after 20 empty episodes, and given the too many chars left behind, i doubt they’ll wrap up something good.
    The issue with Dio is finished. Leda is still alive, Luna is still there and Braiking Boss decides to join the fight the last 10 seconds of the forelast episode. Omg!

    They did NOTHING for 20 episode and they burned down everithing in the grand finale. Wow, how clever!

    The chars seemed to wander around helplessly for the entire serie. Braiking, Flender, The old Bosses were just cameos from th very old serie more than active characters.

    Luna turned out an amazingly bad char. Her being alive ruined all the expectations of the first half serie. And yet it didn’t explain anithing, neither the changes in Kasshern and Luna herself, nor the great ruin thing. Ah yeah: “when you killed me all of my death flew out of me in the world” says she. That was cheap.

    About the visuals quality. At first the weird chara and stunning decayed environment shocked me, but that become boring soon after a while. Think about it: what backgrounds did you watch for the entire serie? Rusty deserts and beds of flowers. Was that enough? And about the animation? Casshern repeated always the same movements. The fights were always confused and bad animated. The graphics wasn’t really that great if you think about it!

    “Best” episode: #18 When Lyuze is dreaming and realizes she loves Casshern.
    Man! i want something of the stuff they smoke when the made it. Really! The whole episodes was mad nonsense.
    There we reached the climax of Casshern: a nonsense showoff of absurd characters.

    I really expected much of this serie, but that was one big disappointment.
    People, if you can really go watch the first serie. It’s graphics was old and outdated but it’s plot is lightyears ahead of this one. Its topics ae still actual nowadays, bearing with pollution, racism, war, science, love and much other.

  10. Machi says:

    I think for the last part what did fall short for me was the whole Braiking Boss and Luna union. Seeing as I thought Braiking Boss was well more or less regretful of the kingdom he once had and was pretty much resigned to death, I mean he was digging graves. Then suddenly you have a sort of 180 and he is the one to approach Luna asking for life, and a new kingdom. I think the conclusion would have been better with episode 23 rather than 24. Or perhaps 24 would be good minus the whole Braiking Boss Luna union, they could just lengthen the death of Oji and Lyuze along with Ringo growing up.
    Leda really was more built up to be final boss material but then they just scrapped that in favor of Braiking Boss. I think the finale could indeed have been pulled off better had they just opted with Leda, she didn’t need to die perhaps just go somewhat berserk till she regains her senses. In any case its really a shame what they did by making the Braiking Boss finale. Still I did thoroughly enjoy the series, even with the weakness of 24 (23 really was a good enough conclusion) the dialogue and characters for me still allowed the series to shine.

  11. I finally watched CS till the end and I will give this anime an 7/10. This is indeed an very stylish yet depressing anime which deals with the end of the world/humanity and imortality. The story is easy to follow but gets kinda complicated at the end and actually I am left with alot of questions unanswered.

    1. Why is everyone ruined ?!? I mean Luna isn,t dead. And what is “being ruined” they never explain why this is happening, only explaination is because of Lunas death ehm ?!?

    2. Why is Luna actually alive and everyone says she died.

    3. How did Luna survive Casshern ? They never explaine that.

    4. Why is Friender the dog immortal, did he chew a bit on Luna, lol ?

    5. Why is Ringo still alive ? I mean Oji and Lyzue are ruined, and the only way to avoid ruin is getting healed by Luna but Ringo refused, so…

    6. What exactly happened to the humans, there are only few humans appearing in CS.

    7. Where hides Casshern his helmet ?!? We always see him with or without helmet.

    8. If Casshern is an immortal regenerator how comes he cant fully regenerate his helmet in the end epsiodes just like Dio couldn’t but Dio ISNT immortal like Casshern.

    9. Whats up with Braiking boss is he some wandering poet all of a sudden ?!?

    10. And the biggest mistery, why isn,t Casshern using his two pistols ?!?

    Anyway there are more unanswered questions but these are the ones I can think of right now. I recommend rather watching Trigun than this because it kinda reminded me a lil bit of Trigun on the depressing level. Cheers ^_^

  12. Aryo says:

    Can’t say I fully understood everything in CS but I’ll give you my take on those questions:

    1. My guess is that Braiking Boss wanted Luna’s death because she could “give death” to otherwise immortal robots (how? I have no idea). That backfired when Casshern “killed” her and her “death” flowed into the whole world, now known as “ruin”.

    2. As she is possibly of the same – if not higher – generation of robots like Casshern, Leda and Dio (probably Ringo, but that’s a special case anyway as she is the first? robot who grows older), killing her isn’t that easy (or even impossible) due the immense regenerative powers they possess.

    The bigger mystery is, why did Casshern not start to ruin, he was the person who was nearest when “death” spread. Possible explanation: Luna’s blood mixed into Casshern’s, key being here that Luna was immune to her own “death”.

    3. see 2

    4. Probably got the same regenerative powers as the others, he didn’t fight that much so that didn’t take a toll on him. However I think he maybe will ruin too, just slower.

    5. Seeing how she grows older, there must be cell division involved. That probably cancels out the degeneration of ruin (Braiking Boss’ experiment to create robots that are immune to Luna’s “death”?).

    6. That I really don’t know. They’re rarely shown throughout the series. The one we see is ill and dies, so there’s a possibility that ruin has a disease-like effect on them.

    7. Hammerspace! :P Depends of taste if you like mass shifting or not – anyway, Casshern and Dio seem to be capable of it. Probably he uses material of his own body to form the helm (or store it there), should be no problem with his regenerative powers.

    8. Casshern, Dio and Leda were all the same what terms of power and immortality concern before ruin started. They’re highly resistant to damage in general, but I believe if one of them would’ve gotten their arm ripped off they wouldn’t be able to regenerate the whole arm as if nothing happened. Tearing them apart requires immense brute force, “normal” robots couldn’t accomplish this feat as you saw when Casshern tried to get himself killed. When Dio commented “Casshern is breaking” I got the impression he meant a psychological level (his mind/soul), not on a physical level (his body).
    So Dio was the only one able to tear something of Casshern’s body apart, due to his unbelievable strengh, which is on par with Casshern’s or even higher. I believe Casshern wasn’t able to regenerate it OR didn’t want to and left the broken part of his helm to remind him of Dio.

    9. Don’t know what you mean, but I found it strange that Braiking Boss said he’s not going to make any more graves/put someone in a grave any more (can’t remember and already deleted the file so I can’t rewatch it) – yet, one episode later he charges at Casshern ;)
    Well, he probably knew he can’t put a dent in Casshern anyway so that statement might as well true in foresight :D

    10. Are those even pistols? I know Leda got her cool sword thingies, but Casshern and Dio did only use their fists and legs afair. To me those things seemed to be like some sort of jets to create thrust. This would explain their fighting style and their ability to partially fly/charge mid-air.

  13. supertauren says:

    i don’t understand how you thought this show was good..

    it definitely had potential but around half way through the show everything falls apart. terrible dialogue, half the show consist of characters calling each others name out -_-. terrible story, they don’t really solve any of the mysteries. this show was definitely NOT thought provoking by the way, i dont see how you could’ve thought this show as at all thought provoking. seeing casshern angst like a little girl half the time is not thought provoking. we get it, he doesn’t like to kill, we get it. him saying things like oh i dont really feel like im alive because i cant die or i want to die blah blah is not thought provoking..well unless you’re a monkey or something maybe. i seriously dont understand how you think that the ONLY flaw in this show is the rushed ending..the whole show was a pile of shit. the only thing that you could consider good about this show is the visuals and that’s about it. the music wasn’t that great, the action was TERRIBLE, the story was retarded and full of plot holes. by the way, the whole lyzue fantasy/dream/lololololwhat episodes were dumb too, we kinda got the picture of how she felt over the course of the previous episodes i dont see why they had to waste an episode showing the obvious. just thinking about me wasting time watching this show makes me angry. seriously though were you high whenever you watched this show? if you were that would explain a lot cause i could see myself enjoying this show a lot more and maybe even considering this show thought provoking or whatever, but seriously, this show is terrible. i dont know how your rating system works but if by 90 you mean like a 50 then id agree with you. terrible, absolutely TERRIBLE show.

  14. Aryo says:

    I think the one who was high was you, when posting this load of bullshit and insults.
    Criticizing the blogger’s views and his ratings in a mannered fashion is one thing, writing crap like that another.

    Seriously, if you thought it was soooo terrible, why did you watch it to the end instead of dropping it?

  15. supertauren says:

    i was hoping for a good ending, a surprise! but nope, disappointed. fair enough though i apologize for my comments, i went too far, sorry you’re right everyone has the right to rate a show however they want so i apologize.

  16. Thx Aryo ^_^ you put alot of thought into this series and your answers are pretty good and explain my question pretty reasonable. Some other cool stuff I found out about Casshern Sins is that this series could be be also named Mega Man X the Anime IMHO XD I mean look at Casshern if we would paint him blue remove his pistol/hover thingies and mount a blaster on his right hand he could be Mega Man X. Braiking Boss also resembles Sigma very much and the whole apocalyptic setting would actually fit in the whole Mega Man X universe and story. This could be soo good if it were Mega Man X because it doesnt resemble the orginal Casshern series at all, only in character setting, the whole story is different and I swear in the orginal series this thingies were actually laser pistols I dunno why they didnt made them as laser pistols in this one.

  17. Kurisu says:

    First of all, let me remind you of the most important and wise rule in the universe: If you don’t like it, don’t watch it! Even the allmighty god respected this rule when he told mankind to fuck off and disappeared in disappear.

    Anyway, Casshern SINS had an impressive visual style but it’s a bit of a one-trick pony and the animation isn’t all too fluid, the fights are actually impressively unimpressive and lacking in variation. They also relied on many scenes with close-ups that show little detail. I actually watched Shinsen’s SD version and I can hardly imagine it’s worth watching it in HD. The visual style lives completely by the bold, glowing colours and the softened edges.

    I didn’t find the dialogues natural at all, by the way. The voice actors speak as if it was a stage play in a theatre rather than a TV series. They sound slightly wooden, overly dramatic and many of the dialogues are rather dual-monologues. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate this acting style for a change once a while. Though I assume this style could imply more depth than there really is. It tried to be very symbolic. Maybe it’s just me but I don’t see much under its pleasing cover. Especially, Casshern himself would have been highly annoying if the acting had been more realistic because he comes off rather dumb-struck and often talks like a broken record. It’s just the way he actually speaks that makes him still look intelligent.

    The ideas used for the plot are certainly not innovative but I doubt they wanted them to be. “Life is only meaningful by death”, the differences between robots and humans, those are actually issues that manga and anime discussed decades ago. The art was fresh, the content wasn’t.

    I found Casshern SINS very pleasing visually as well as the acting style and I wasn’t bored with it for a minute even though it became a bit of static half-way through. Nonetheless, in my opinion, it has much more style than substance.

  18. Solaris says:

    > Printul Noptii
    I swear in the orginal series this thingies were actually laser pistols I dunno why they didnt made them as laser pistols in this one
    They are and were jet pistols meant to boost or jump high.
    Old Casshern had indeed a laser attack, shooting from the helmet’s yellow V. That powerful shot deprived all of his Solar power supply and he became blind and weak.
    Yes, Casshern was once a cyborg far more than the his new self.
    It’s ironical how little robot are those of Casshern SINS’ ones.

  19. Aryo says:

    Thanks for clearing that up, Solaris
    Didn’t watch the old series yet, can’t anyway atm because most of the time it takes me around 6-9 hours depending on filesize to dl one episode due to my crappy UMTS internet, so I stick to the newer shows (since I won’t let my pc run 24/7 ;) ).

  20. Hasaan says:

    I feel for some reason compelled to point out that this show does start decent completely fails in the second half. I got so bored that I skipped the last 6-7 episodes and just saw the last 15 minutes of the final episode just to see what happenned. Very overrated show! (My 2 cents)

  21. Moe Sizlack says:

    If only they hired a writer, this show would have been amazing.
    SPOILER BELOW!!!!:
    I think the ending was retarded. The whole f*cking series everybody’s unhappy ’cause they’re gonna die, then Luna comes with a cure for everybody and nobody takes it. First everybody’s unhappy cause they’re gonna die, then all the main character’s are unhappy with Luna keeping people alive.

  22. gigantor21 says:

    This was a 7/10 series for me.

    I loved the art, and a few performances–Furuya was great as Casshan–but everything else was decent at best. The uneven writing and crappy ending pissed me off; I found the dialouge wildly pretentious.

    The series had a lot of potential which was never fully tapped.

  23. Z.N. Singer says:

    As most up here said – Casshern Sins was ten to twenty minutes away from being such a mind boggling all timer as to defy description. In fact, I think just thirty seconds more spent on the very last revelation of the show, which so neatly tied in and resolved (after a fashion) the themes of the show, so that it could properly replace the down feeling the whole fight with Luna developed, I could have given it a five out of five. Amazing how many of the best shows flub true perfection in the last ten minutes.

  24. Solaris says:

    I guess everyone need a comparison with the Old Casshern after all. This comparison is rather hard to do as there are almost 40 years of time difference between the two series. Anime has changed a lot in 40 years both in target, themes and in narrative structure.
    I’ll try to point out all of the differences and common traits between these two series, but please keep that in mind.

    Introduction:
    Old Casshern was made at the time Great Robots (Go Nagai) style was the most popular format. These kind of anime were aimed mostly at kids back then. There was a neat distinction between good and evil, and the format was practically the same in every episode: Evil attacks, heroes counterattack and save the day. Meta plot is slowly developed in the entire serie, if present. Target eventually grew with decades, as anime viewer grew older and needed deeper stories and more developed character traits. Casshern, though being aimed at kids and being build with a fairly linear plot and format, showed a peculiar carachterization and environment, more suitable for an older target. Casshern has that kind of slow developing plot, but unless Super Robot anime, it had a somehow more complex story and environment to deal with. Good and Evil start to mix up in Casshern. The evil faction, the robot have their good reasons to behave like that, beyond the old boring “will to conquer the world” or such. Good faction have their weakness and dark side too. Casshern was mad by Tatsunoko as one serie in a row of three having much more deepness and dark environment than old super robot. These three series also share a common dark and desperate environment and common themes such as pollution and refuse of war and racism. So kid’s series made for the kids to reflect upon important matters like that. The three series are Casshern, Polymar and Tekkaman.

  25. DmonHiro says:

    Why are you comparing the new with the old? The only thing they have in common is that both shows have Casshern and some of his friends.

  26. Solaris says:

    You can read the plot’s premises here:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Human_Casshern
    After the prologue the plot slowly developed.
    Tetsuya changes himself into Casshern the android to cleanse his father’s reputation and save the world. Casshern is a lone hero that bring the burden of the destiny of the whole mankind. But he’s not human anymore, so he’s ostracized both from the machines and humans. Casshern starts his journey and meets people of different kind moving towards his archenemy fortress. At start human are unaware of Cacchern’s nature. He just seen as a super strong human of some kind, being able to torn apart robot barehanded. Well that’s some weakness of caracterization, but it worked somehow ^^. Eventually Robots are to discover Cahhern Nature and leak it to humans. During Cassherns journey he learns what humanity is really having witnessed human sorrow and lived side by side with the people. This part of the story has been repeated in Casshern Sins too, where Casshern Journey is meant for him to understand and accept his own nature. In Old Casshern we understand and accept human condition as depicted by the interaction between the main chars and the people they met and helped.
    A very special place is held by Friender and Luna, Casshern companions in the journey. Luna is a very fragile being, but finds strenght in his love for Tetsuya. She’s the archetype of the good woman in Japan. (if you’d want to marry one, be her be Luna *__*). Luna has got a weapon, her father’s memento, able to destroy robots but harmless to human. Luna’s weapon is also used to try harm Casshern at some point of the story. But Casshern was unaffected, thus throwing in doubts about the true nature of Casshern. Neither Human, nor robot or rather yet something else?
    The story slowly developed from its premise at the start of Casshern’s Journey linearly, adding a piece of information without substantial plot twists. There are some turning point event during the serie such as when robots finally discover Casshern’s nature or the last battle of humans or whern robot’s plan of Earth Environmental Restoration were discovered. Casshern’s char begins quite dark and despeate, becoming brighter with the help mainly of Luna.

  27. Solaris says:

    Characters
    Casshern development is mainly similar to the last Casshern Sins serie, being alone with the burden of being the savior at start, reflecting about his own condition and human condition after, and resolving action in the last half of the story. The real main difference is Old Casshern is not an emo whining freak of some sort but a real hero with resolution and will to carry on.
    Casshern is afraid having given his own human nature for the sake of a powerful robotic body could change him in those fierceful and inhuman machines some day. So he started his journey alone. Luna struggles to stay with him at start, but eventually her presence saved him from loosing his humanity completely. Casshern is an hero as told the old way. An example for the people to rely on and continue struggling agains fate. Carachterization is the main difference between the old classic and new settlement of this story. Heroes don’t mean anything nowadays. Chars are modeled after otaku culture nowadays, so that they are everything but heroic in the first place, most like New Casshern. This is someone who has been given a title of antihero and doesn’t even know why and struggles and cries against it. A pityful being.

  28. Solaris says:

    @Dmonhiro: I was asked about it, expecially after giving a loto more credit to the old casshern in spite of the new. My answer was: Old Casshern better setting and char characterization as good side and linear and simpler but effective plot as worse side.

  29. DmonHiro says:

    While you make some good points, I can’t agree with your on the heroism. In Sins, Casshern was always the first try and help others, be it by guiding them, or protecting them. In fact, if he was anyone in danger, he would go help them, and only after that would her evaluate the situation. I guess that could also be because he knows he’s practically immortal, but I can’t see him as anything other then heroic.

  30. Solaris says:

    Dmonhiro, New Casshern isn’t heroic. He’s just the opposite: he’s an anti-hero, moved by is struggling fate, and not the saviour of mankind like Old Casshern. Sure a goodhearted char that helped friends isn’t heroic as the words suggested it, but just good-natured.
    Casshern Sins just turned upside down Casshern carachterization. The problem is they exceeded with negativity, changing the hero in a whiny emo. Good Casshern Sins just changes a bit halfway thanks to Luze and Ringo. Well it does help fighting for the sake of others…

  31. DmonHiro says:

    I think you have the wrong idea of what an anti-hero means. An anti-hero is someone who’s more of a vigilante, someone who may not be all that virtuous. Someone who is a jerk, but still has a good heart. That is NOT Casshern Sins, not by a long shot.

  32. Solaris says:

    Let’s quote wiki. Not the best source of information, but a nice reference at that.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epic_hero
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antihero
    Look at what they say about the two figures: The hero is defined as a positive char with high moral or virtues with respect to the society. He’s usually somebody who performs an important but extremely dangerous task that nobody else could perform thus becoming an example for others.
    He could be the protagonist of a story, but usually is the symbol or reference of a virtue. Casshern old version respect the definition of epic hero, with the addition of superpowers.
    He is the man who accomplices the task of saving human kind at the price of his own humanity and suffer pain in the process.
    Now tell me now what kind of moral value or example of virtue does New Casshern remotely resemble?
    He’s clearly not an hero.
    An anti-hero is the negation of the concept of hero. One example is the vigilante, but that’s not Casshern Sins situation. There are other kind of antiheroes, depending what traits are negated.
    New Casshern sure doesn’t perform a task of great social importance, or at least he just happens to do that by chance.

  33. Solaris says:

    …continues from above
    New Casshern is not the maker of somebody’s else destiny, but struggles against his own destiny.
    He’s an anti-hero as destiny is forced against him. He eventually regains the traits of the hero later in the story, but that’s never for his own accord, rather than the events bring him to behave that way and eventually interaction with otjher chars saved him. New Casshern is an hero being saved by his own friends more than the opposite…
    That is to say New Casshern is negatively carachterized with the respect of the classical hero figure, as long as the Old one resembled that archetype closely.

  34. Sarah says:

    Need more casshern it a good show I really like it

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@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
Amagi
I mean there are parts I like. I enjoyed the first episode, and the part about the country of liars. But many other things annoy me and the last episode was the worst. I also feel like the edgy bomb loli and slapstick Kino don't fit to the rest of the show somehow. Maybe I forgot everything, but the "old" Kino felt like a better character to me somehow, this one is more faithful to the LNs though
Amagi
@Kaiser: I honestly gave up on Kino and I think it's only partly the fault of the new series. I am just so tired of how stupid most of the episodic-characters are unless their are friends of Kino, how everyone gets bent being irredeemable evil for plot's sake and how everything Kino and her friends do gets justified. Maybe I am just too old or boring for this fairy tail like moral bending.
SuperMario
Still have Night is Short review to write... i will get there. I will get there
Anonymous1612237
It's like having potty mouth characters. If you have one, it can be funny and a good comedic relief. If everyone does it, it can come out as mean spirited or trashy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I haven't watched A Bad Idea Gone Wrog, as for now my top priority is to catch up with 2017 anime for the Yearly summary. But I will get on to it when I have some free time
Anonymous1612237
Amagi - Chibi stuff I've seen it mainly work in anime comedies with low budgets like Those Who Hunt Elves, Ranma, Excel Saga, Arakawa Under the Bridge, Nanbaka, etc. I think if you really have to use it in a more serious anime, I think it might work if it was part of one character's gag.
SuperMario
Children of the Whales, along with Juuni Taisen, keep falling out on me. Kino is pretty a hit-or-miss at the moment. I don't mind the last episode's multiple tales though
Niello
Problem about AMB chibi jokes are that they arwn't funny in the first place nor do they have a punch line.
Niello
@Eoghan, Really surprise you put Children of the Whales so high, I'm falling behind on some shows but it is still near the bottom of my list (the absolute bottom remains Kino).
Kaiser-Eoghan
The latest Kino episode was a real slap in the face/insult, really really thought that one segement would carry on for the whole episode and be a redemptive one/getting the series back on form but then it followed it up with crap comic relief segement.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: For now yes.
Lenlo
Droppin Mahou Kaiser?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I no longer care what Dia's gender is, no longer I will lie to myself and deem them female.
Kaiser-Eoghan
5. would be juuni taisen
Kaiser-Eoghan
My rankings for the season based on what I am following: 1. Houseki no kuni 2. Children of the whales 3. inuyashiki 4. girls last tour dropping mahou and Kino.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't remember Joseph being all that present from what little I read of the manga.
Amagi
Fear so too. I mean it has a bunch of good ideas and good quality and such, but it feels like it won't be much more than the magical being of the week (or two weeks) and some Elias highjinks inbetween
Kaiser-Eoghan
I still say, I've got the feeling mahou will be wasted potential that won't really go anywhere much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Did you watch that indie film you recommended yet? Bad idea gone wrong it was called. I just finished it there, budgetary limitations and outside of Matt Jones the acting isn't great, theres a few limp/dead bits too, nonetheless it has its amusing moments here and there to make for an okay comedy that isn't all that essential but amusing enough in moments if your bored.
Amagi
Yeah I think Mahou has some pacing issues. But I also think it would work way better if it was less episodic or semi-episodic.
SuperMario
I normally don't mind the chibi stuff that much but I agree in Mahoutsukai they break the tone and pacing. Serious at one time, fluffy at another...
Amagi
@Vonter: I honestly never like chibi stuff I think. Didn't care back then but nowadays I consider it annoying. One reason is that jokes only work when they aren't pointed out but just happen, sometimes even so casually that you almost miss them. Turning everyone into a chibi for a joke makes it as fun as repeating, explaining or shouting it again (which many series also do)
KTravlos
I have to give it to Altair. It got me reading the manga. The episode this week did skip over a whole manga story, but to be frank it is not too much of a loss. Pacing issues still exist. One thing I noticed was a degrading in animation. They are probably hoarding for the next two episodes which are the major battle.
Anonymous1611511
Just dropping my 2c here: Isn't it too late for the studio to correct such inherent design issue once eps start rolling out?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Angel: The dub wasn't all that impressive in the first place however.
Angel
When Will fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub come out?
Vonter
The chibi stuff sadly, is like watching someone make the same mistake over and over again, without acknowledging that thing isn't coming across well. At this point it seems like an intentional choice rather than just cutting corners. Kinda like when an anime has a decent dub but has that one character with a really annoying voice.
Lenlo
Its continued this willful ignorance, this virtual refusal, to actually address the issue. Thing about the chibi is, the first scene with Silver worked. Then it just got overused.
KTravlos
Mahoutsukai continues denying itself. We finally had some tough questions asked, but the show just ignored them in the 2nd half (with generous doses of chibi). That said Elias true form is terrifying.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: If you enjoy The Scent of the Green Papaya and Cyclo, you can also check out his unofficial third film about Vietnam: The Vertical Ray of the Sun, which is about the modern day of Hanoi. It's my favorite film of his, although I know that artistically it can't compare to his earlier films
SuperMario
And I can say the mafia aspect of Cyclo is more like Hong Kong than Vietnam. But, whatever. I like this one well enough
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I particularly love the score in Cyclo. No wonder later on Tran Anh Hung asked Joony Greenwood from Raidoohead to score his films. His score has the same uncomfortable feeling with this one
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would have watched an entire story based around that old man in the new Kinos journey episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Though while I never found it boring, it did feel it could have had a better narrative.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Cyclo I felt has some reasonable sketched characters and the aesthetic sells the viewer on the environment the characters are living in, Tony Leung was my favourite in it, I also like how some Asian films are able to mix quietness with moments of violence, makes it much more visceral.
SuperWooper
I'd lean towards weirdest thing you've ever seen. It's certainly up there for me.
Masky
...I can't figure out whether Sengoku Jidai with batman is weirdest thing I have ever seen or makes completely perfectly sense and was inevitable it would happen
K-Off
The map design should've been vastly more different, I'd love to hear why they thought it was worth it to keep the same maps as Gaiden. So. Much. Open. Fields.
K-Off
Finally got to playing Fire Emblem Shadow, and 15 hours in I'm already not a fan of the gameplay. The story is vastly superior to Gaiden, but it looks like it missed the point on how to make a good remake. The maps are just as god awful as in Gaiden and for it, (in hard mode) it feels like a game of numbers rather than strategy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I feel drama need not always go for emotions in the audiences but can be effective in a solely cold observational sense and approach.
SuperMario
haha you don't need to spy you know. Like I said Discord chat has been active lately. I find myself more comfortable chatting in there for some reasons.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I spy on the discord chat sometimes
Kaiser-Eoghan
Worried about this Junji itou adaptation thats coming up, hope it isn't one of those zero animation web-short series.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: he still has Flashmob in which he intended to make. Yeah, he started his career quite late but he has had a very successful career
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Potentially could be his last film, he is quite old.
SuperMario
Agree that Happy End has many quirkier moments compared to his other works. Still a solid work but I won't rank it amongst his best
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Watching Happy End, you can immediately realize many of Haneke's favorite themes: the voyeur/camera in Benny's Video, Cache; the latent racism like you mentioned, the idea that killing someone you love is better than watching them suffering, the underlying violence in a normal middle class life in most of his works
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Like with code unknown, its approach to latent rascism is far better handled than for example a terrible hollywood oscar bait drama would handle it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I felt though had the film been a bit longer, Huppert and Jones could have gotten more scenes, same with Franz Rogowski's character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I did however think that the disjointed nature of the earlier parts were both to the advantage and disadvantage of the film. But it delivers a killer of a last act that I loved.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I finally got around to seeing happy end, I liked the Cache and amour references and how Haneke cheekily managed to insert quirkier moments and even wry ones so seemlessly into the narrative. Fontaine ,Kassovitz and Tringnent had the best scenes, particularly the ones between Fontaine and Tringnent.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Physical, non-verbal communication is a far more valuable way of conveying information I believe and more effective in fiction.
SuperMario
Report on Just Because so far: they took on the three-way romance direction, which I initally ain't fond of. But last episode actually was great with the focus on body gestures and natural dialogues, delivering one of the brst exchange the show has this season. A good watch overall
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