Posted by psgels on 5 June 2009 with categories: Eden of the East



Okay, so now that this series is nearly at its end (2 episodes left), I unfortunately have to admit that Eden of the East was a disappointment. It’s obviously nowhere near bad, but with its awesome first episode, I really expected something better from this series. Unfortunately, after nine episodes my favourite episode still remains that first one: it never really managed to surpass the creativity and intrigue of Akira and Saki, meeting each other in America, and to be honest, it never even came close to that.

My guess would be that it’s the lack of focus that’s working against this series. The pacing has simply been too slow for such a series, and during the quiet moments I don’t think that the creators really made optimal use of it to flesh out the cast. I once praised this show for how it involved its side-characters with the main-storyline, but for the past two episodes I’m really beginning to wonder what their purpose is. What really is the point of Oosugi, showing the Akira-hate messages? What can that really add to the story, other than making the side characters hate Akira with passion?

The thing with mystery-series is that creating intrigue is one thing, but making the revelations worth it is really the difficult part. Now that the revelations have finally come in, I unfortunately have to say that they… don’t really live up to my expectations. So yeah, the rockets were launched by one of the other Selecao who is out to destroy Japan and start anew. Should have seen that coming. Every Selecao is trying to destroy Japan, it seems, aside from Akira of course, who along with Number 5 was probably the only one who was doing the right thing. My big worry is also that Mr. Outside. I know that there are two hours of movie left for him, but my big fear with him is that the creators aren’t going to have any time to flesh this guy out, making him dangerously close to your typical evil overlord.

Compare this to shows as 07-Ghost: even though its plot is nowhere near as interesting as that of Eden, it did put lots of time into building up and fleshing out, and actually looks like it’s going to get away with it. Eden though… something just feels to have gone wrong during its build-up. I really hope that these hunches are wrong, because I really want this show to work.

Rating: (Enjoyable)
Predictable, Pantsu wasn’t really that interesting, but at least the plot moved forward a lot.

23 Responses

  1. Erias says:

    Two episode + the movie actually.

    Shouldn’t judge untill you see it all. :P There sure was some knowledge about the past. How Akira’s actions prevented the many deaths on careless monday and so on.
    Next episode seems to make us stand on our toes.

  2. Frost says:

    Havent seen this episode yet but Ive been feeling the same way about Eden… The 1st episode was amazing, and now Im just “meeeh”, its just… not exciting

    I dont really care for the whole Seleçao thing either, and there havent been any good Akira x Saki moments which were the best part for me, it seems the romance is totally gone

    Oh well… At least we have plenty of other great series airing atm

  3. Matt says:

    yeah, it can be a bit slow, i wonder how this would have been as a 3-4 part OVA series… I think that would fit this show better, which seems like they got the idea when they added in the movie. It seems that they might be stuck in contract doing these 9 episodes.

    But i still enjoy this series, i am mostly going through it like a roller coaster, sitting back and enjoying it.. ;b

  4. Kim says:

    I’ve been disappointed in this series for awhile and never could really care about the characters but I continued watching because it was so short. It didn’t seem they used their 11 episodes well. And yes I do understand there is a movie but I think a series should be able to stand on its own despite the movie. The movie should only add to the series.

  5. kalamunki says:

    The first ep implied Akira becoming a sacrifice of some sort. Not all stories will have happy endings even if the characters all end up with the things they wanted to begin with. I’m thinking by the end of the tv series, Akira [willingly] takes the fall for another missile attack while the only people who will know the truth are the Eden of the East club. The anime previews of EoE spoke of Saki being the person who protects Akira, I’m still waiting to see how she does just that.

  6. c-ron says:

    theres still a movie

    compared to 07 ghost or phantom, this series has been amazing

  7. LifeCarrier says:

    I’m glad I dropped it at the third episode, I too, had high hopes given the first episode, the second one wasn’t bad at all, but the third one did it for me; I realized this was gonna be just a high budget average story by the way they handled that character that died…

  8. c-ron says:

    rofl

    don’t give an anime a chance and quit it?

    and would u like to specify what exactly they did wrong with the way they handled the death of the selecao?

  9. kokutou says:

    I too disagree with the review given on this episode. Firstly, the past, of which the majority of this show is based on, had some details filled in. This episode was simply build up for the next one, a meeting between selcao. Secondly, we saw a selcao do something without using juiz. The only thing I didn’t like about pantsu’s death is that he talked, which was not necessary. My biggest gripe about this review was the comparison with 07 ghost. That shows pacing is awful as they drag everything on. They had Ayanami talking for how long about Mikage making a decision? I don’t know how you can even compare the two. Plus, the series is based on conspiracy and information. We, the audience are not going to find out everything about each character. And how can you imagine Mr. Outside as an overlord??? He put 11 people under a pressure situation in order to help all of Japan. He might not even be one person. Sure it’s not as great as it could have been but the review of this episode is full of fallacy, just as the unrealistic assumption that we’ll know everything about the situation. Very dissapointed in this review.

  10. Frost says:

    Thats the problem, this episode was a build up episode, and so was the one before, and the one before… I feel the series has been building up for something since the first episode, and yet… It still didnt deliver

  11. Mauser says:

    This series had so much potential. The dynamics between Akira and Saki should have been the focal point.

  12. psgels psgels says:

    Kokutou: the thing with this show is that I don’t think that the creators tried to stuff too much into too little. 07-Ghost may indeed be slow as hell, but at least it has focus, and thats what I’m missing with this series.

  13. c-ron says:

    i still don’t understand

    eden has only focused on one thing since the very beginning – the introduction and explanation of the conspiracy and selecao. and this episode has explained a great deal. we learnt that it was not takizawa who ordered the missiles, and that it was number 10 who did. his motives are unknown as of yet; perhaps he wants to return japan to its pre-wwii militaristic state. why takizawa wiped out his own memory is still unknown, and tht makes me want to watch more. perhaps it does not arouse your curiosity; but it certainly did mine. eden of the east did an excellent job with its characterisation. it is a plot driven series which did not lose sight of its characters, which is something i would it applaud it for. they have created characters i care about. ohsugi is definitely a pathetic and annoying little bastard, but a realistic (and rarely seen in fiction) character nevertheless. saki is cute and takizawa is quite the character. the relationship between tak and saki is not the focus of the anime IMO, but it does develop along with the plot.

    Frankly i don’t see how you could rate 07 ghost or phantom over this tbh. You say that you’re worried that the ‘there isn’t enough time to flesh the antagonist out’ or you think the creators are trying ‘to stuff too much into too little’, but thats just bollocks mate. i mean, you base your reasoning on fears and not evidence, on what you think might happen and not on what has already happened? you fear for the worst, even though thats the most unlikely scenario. don’t forget that a 2 hour long movie = 5-6 episodes worth of normal anime time, and that is more then enough time to flesh out characters. all this building up will make for a great climax, and im looking forward to it.

    also your criticism about the side characters. you say that you don’t understand what the purpose of ohsugi is; i would argue that its blatantly obvious that hes an antithesis of takizawa (being a painfully cautious, selfish young man who admittedly does care for his friends) and represents the typical salary man straight out of graduation (which also relates back to the theme of NEETs). Of course his juxtaposition with tak also makes us hate him more (another mark of a good series; the ability to invoke passion towards or against a character). i can easily relate to him; i mean who hasn’t had intense crushes during their high school years akin to the one ohsugi has on saki? his role in the plot seems obvious to me. its to bring the eden club into the main plotline and involve them with the whole selecao conspiracy. without ohsugi (and his obsession), there is no rational explanation which would link Eden with the Selecao.

    love your site and your insights but definitely can’t agree with you on this post.

  14. c160 says:

    I have to agree with c-ron that I don’t agree with you on this post.The series has been focused so far revealing the mystery of the Selecao albeit in a unique way instead of the usual straightforward revelation after revelation method,so I’m curious to know what made this show unfocused?

    I think with this anime,you should just let things unravel and take it for what it is first and watch until it ends first cause to be honest,no one really knows how this series will end.I’m also curious, by this point,who do you think Mr Outside is?

  15. Machi says:

    Even with a movie one has to consider there can only be so much covered by the movie, moreover because of the movie one has to wonder whether the anime ending will end something in the vein of Tower of Druaga or will it have a proper conclusion that it can stand as a series on its own and not rely on one to watch the movie.

    Movie would potentially add some of the missing details (hopefully) but it really depends on the length and how well they can handle a movie, as a movie is much more different than an anime series as there will be less leeway for scenes. Adding to that it would be disappointing if the anime were just created to set the groundwork for the movie, as again a movie and a series are different from one another they should at least be able to stand on their own without having to rely on a gimicky move that one needs the other to stand.

  16. Tracer says:

    I agree with c-ron for the most part.

    I personally thought that this was as good a episode as the previous ones. In fact, it’s better in some sense as it’s bringing a lot of the different aspects together for the finale.

    And I don’t understand why everything has to follow a pattern of “fleshing out characters” or whatnot. I mean, not every piece of fiction is meant to have some incredibly complex characters. Some novels are even called “novel of ideas” because the characters in the story just represent an idea or theme rather than an individual. I would easily say that the creators did an amazing job with the characters in 9 episodes than what most anime do in 26.

  17. DLP says:

    I also disagree with the review.

    Eden’s been the best thing on this season so far, wonderful animation, smart story, surprising twists, good characters.

    Ghost 07… bored now. (I do like Phantom a lot, but it’s not really surprised me.)

  18. LK says:

    I agree with c-ron’s post as well. I really like this blog. In fact it’s the only anime blog I read, because the others are rubbish. But I feel your review was written in haste. One big piece of the puzzle was provided in this episode. But then more questions are revealed. Who are these new guys. Why are they trying to become heroes through Selacao? We all knew the Selacos were behind the missles, but why? Will that win them the game? I’m not sure the reason for the missiles given in your review is entirely correct. Plot developed, characters developed – Takizawa especially. I suspect he may have been mind wiped by the bad selecaos to get him out of the picture, but who knows. Can’t wait to find out. Great show.

  19. adjustBOX says:

    I would have to disagree with your review. I didn’t find the series boring or disappointing at all. In fact, the mix and match of a comedic and yet somewhat dark atmosphere in Eden of the East is quite unique. The story itself is quite interesting.

    As for the characters and plot not being “fleshed out”, I think there were a few filler episodes that did build up character development. I also found the theme of how soceity seem to have left behind NEETs and the looking down of current societies youth in Japan very interesting.

    You’ve also got to like the many many American/Western movie and cultural references in the first few episodes (I personally found them quite halarious). If you notice in the first episode as Akira is going through his passports, one of them says Jason Bourne (Bourne trilogy).

    Now, the plot in episode 9 did move forward considerably more compared to the last few episodes, so we’ll just have to wait and see what the last 2 episodes and the movie entails. I personally have high hopes for this series.

  20. Dryath says:

    I disagree with your review!

  21. Psychobob says:

    Agreed with this…the first episode was the best, and I was hoping they would still stay in the U.S. although episode 9 picked up the pace. I’m thinking this is just all precursor stuff to the real fireworks in the film hopefully.

  22. mds says:

    well,after finally getting to see the ninth episode,I also against your criticism on this episode.Eden may be slow ,but it take its time to do all the building-ups and flesh all of the settings properly.
    The comparison to 07-ghost is horrible,since it screws up the manga with unimportant fillers.Mikage’s arc that was able to fill in just 6 or 7 episode become dragged to 9 episodes.This pacing is big dissapointment compared to the manga (Mikage’s arc completed in just 1 volume,you know)
    And one last thing,Eden is seriously focused with its themes (the NEETS) keep spawning around in its episodes….

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haha, Aidan: heartless grumpy monster & Mario: sentimental sappy bloke. Readers, you got yourself quite an odd combination of writers here.
Anonymous951955
We'll see; trailers can give false impressions
Anonymous951955
Not that all changes from source adaptations are terrible, but in this case, at least the trailer makes it look pretty bad.
Anonymous951955
It looks not great; I understand the need to change it a bit to suit the format/audience, but at what point does it turn from adaption to "loosely based on"?
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I'm glad we're past the phase of moe club shows.
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@Helghast, now that's something I never thought I would hear.
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Hell ya. We are in a golden age of anime that is filled with options and quality.
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What a great week! Iron Blooded Orphans, Onihei, Little Witch Academia and ACCA 13 all had great episodes! I am spoiled!
Anonymous950847
@Anon and @Aikan

The LoGH manga remake has been out. It did not work for me.

I hope he anime goes its own way. I do trust Production IG, so I hope. I think it might not be this year. No lgoic, just a hunch.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Only info I can find is that it's coming out this year and it will be by Production IG. But I think you are right in that if it;s coming this year it will definitely be winter.
Feeling rather cautious about the remake myself. LoGH is dated visually but in a way it is a product of it's time and things you could forgive in the old version wouldn't be so forgivable in the new.
Anonymous949997
Does anybody know when that LoGH readaptation is coming? It's supposed to be this year right? Probably winter right?
SuperMario
But I will give it a full review anyways because all the amount of time I spent in that series should be paid off somehow, right?
Kaiser-Eoghan
But serious Gohands is a studio that had potential its just a shame its wasted on rubbish writers. Although I did like mardock scramble, because cyberpunk =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
If I met handshakers in public I'd refuse to shake its hand =D
SuperMario
Oh, it's actually just an extra Hand Shakers episode that serves as a prequel story. Not that bad then
SuperMario
Not to disregard Hand Shakers, but the best way to describe how I feel about that series is mind-numbing
Kaiser-Eoghan
They tried with that Military guy and his daughter but not by much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But I do agree that there needs to be more to the characters, right now its JUST Tanya.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As for Tanya, having caught up with it, its a nice trashy guilty pleasure, especially due to the protagonist and I enjoy the setting because I'm a war film fan and like some of the action/politicking. I still do wish it was aesthetically a bit better. The dub isn't that bad and I'd welcome a second season.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In an ideal world Kino's journey would have been a good model for what light novel adaptations can be and SHOULD be.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If we must have more light novel adaptations, I would prefer them to be like Tanya, Muvluv, okay hardly breathtaking, but still better than that thing Aidan linked.
Lenlo
*Sigh* It looks exactly how I imagined it would and its terrible.
Lenlo
Please dont tell me thats an actual title.
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In another world with my smart phone light novel to get an anime.

Oh my god...This literally sounds like a joke title you would see within an anime. Tried giving it an honest chance by reading it and it's just shit. Just pure terrible.
AidanAK47
If people in Japan are actually buying blurays thinking its a good show then something is seriously wrong with the world.
AidanAK47
@Topgavin, maybe too many people watched it because it was so terrible. I haven't watched past episode 1 but it doesn't sound like it improved.
Topgavin
Just incase you guys were avidly waiting for the announcement, Hand Shakers is getting a prequel season because it's apparently selling well......
SuperMario
Should be happy for it, though I'm a bit disappointed that I can't be able to cover it
SuperMario
Inside Mari gets live-action series adaptation. Why not anime?? Duh
Spike
Little Witch Academia finally tips it's hand on the overall plot! I'm pretty pleased and think some direction might help bump it up from just being 'good' overall.
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@KTravlos Still watching it week by week and I'll write up a review on the second season of Iron-Blooded when it ends.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It is however the kind of anime film that would have the wide audience appeal though, as in anime for people who don't watch anime.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: just prove that people has paid attention to anime. That's an encouraging sign actually
Kaiser-Eoghan
Feck, silent voice was booked out when I got there just now....should have booked in advance, showing at 7:00 on Friday booking it now.
SuperMario
@KTravlos: I haven't, but that more because I'm not a big fan of Mecha genre. I believe one of our writer HelghastKillzone still follow the series
KTravlos
No idea, if you are all still watching MS Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans. I am, and while the 2nd Season toned down some of the elements that made the 1st Season good, it is still pretty good with the last episode doing a great job. If it keeps it, it definitely is head to head with Turn A Gundam for my favorite long-form Gundam Series (I am doing Gundam Origins for the original story)
Lenlo
Mhmm. It was one of those shows it weave adult themes into a kids show, so it had something for both. Now I can also appreciate the artstyle that doesnt use hard black outlines for everything.
AidanAK47
If anything I get so much more out of Samurai Jack now than when I watched it as a kid.
Lenlo
Love that dude Aidan. And yes Kaiser, I think anyone get enjoy it now. I love that its back, but even without that its easily standing on its own
Kaiser-Eoghan
How much of this love of samurai jack is a nostalgia driven thing? I'm not knocking that nostalgia but would it be possible to get something out of the show now if I never watched it when I was younger?
Lenlo
Yeah, that conversation was great. Really shows you how messed up hes become. Its also amazing when you realize that was the last set of spoken dialogue in the episode. There was not a single word uttered in the second half.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The audience who enjoyed samurai Jack has grown up, them bringing up seppuku and blood is possibly a part of that.
AidanAK47
Scene with the coffins was awesome as was the fight in the dark. My personal favorite part of the episode though was Jack arguing with his old design self. And young jack suggesting committing seppuku made my eyebrows raise. I mean..damn.
Lenlo
I agree Aidan. That quick shot of Jack vs the Daughter, with the sudden blood, suprised me as much as it did Jack. I really loved the scene with the coffins. The music nad sound was just great there.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, It was a really great episode. I love the meta of Jack being worn down by the wait and the wait the viewers had to endure for the new season. I is rather odd seeing blood in Samurai Jack though but it does make that particular moment have so much more impact.
Topgavin
April 16th for NZ. It is a lesser known movie than Kimi no na wa though, so I do wonder how available it's going to be in cinemas
Lenlo
This second episode of Jack was really just amazing. Its making full use of the new budget/tech for the art and of the new rating, along with the impact the timeskip would have on Jack. The cinematography was superb as well.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Koe ko machi will creen in Aussie in the beginning of April as well. I'll go to watch it; but I would love to jear your thoughts on the movie.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There is a preview screening of koe to kachi on Monday night, depending I may go, I may review it or at least talk about it on here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm dying waiting for the Blame! anime film adaptation to come out in May. I've wanted an adaptation for years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I'm too much of a cheap-ass to actually buy anything, don't even use legal streaming for films or anime/manga/comics, pirate almost everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or shelves for that matter.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've fallen out of the collectors thing pretty much entirely. I don't like to advertise any of my interests on my bedroom wall either.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Some years ago I ended up selling almost all of my anime dvds/vhs and manga, comic books aswell, took down my posters and moved what figures I had left into attic boxes , just no space for it and it was a good way to get some quick extra cash.
Lenlo
I love Rakugo as well, im not meaning to bad talk it at all. I simply also agree with Aiden that slow rolling us with Yakumo's death was poorly done and that its feeling stretched.
Topgavin
Nevermind, the $30 price tag made that decision for me
Topgavin
Weird how I see $8 movies on youtube as a ripoff yet a $90 series as a bargain. All these $300 box sets made me think it'd be in the hundreds. Wonder if I should get rebellion too
SuperMario
I'm still pretty much a fan of Rakugo this season. It goes much darker than the first season, something I didn't dare to think before consider this isYotaro's story. Would love to see more about rakugo's industry but this season does flesh out a lot of our core characters
Kaiser-Eoghan
I said it before but I'll bring it up again, the slow pace allows for, when big things happen to have a larger impact when they do.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*In
**and(not on) waiting for the series to finish
Anonymous935946
Season 1 showed a lot more, different periods and times, the development of Rakugo, the tragedy of Sukeroku & Miyokichi (or at least one version). In contrast, season 2 was basically about Sukeroku's legacy in the form of Yotaro and Konatsu and their kids, and Yakumo's relationship with death, changing from fatalistic to happiness over the course of the series.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think it might be 13 episodes, the first season had 13.
Anonymous935946
To be honest, I understand your point: It's hard to actually describe what happened in season 2. I guess I became invested into Yakumo in season 1, and then warmed up to Yota and Konatsu in this season.
Anonymous935946
Yeah, I think they certainly could have compressed the front half of the season. There wasn't too much plot going on, but I enjoyed the characters and their interactions, so I didn't mind the deliberate pacing.
Lenlo
I still really like Rakugo, its really good, it just probably didnt need 12 episodes. That said, really lookin forward to the timeskip
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I've never actually seen any of Olivier Asayas' films come to think of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But going back to that dragging on, that did factor in almost making me hold off on waiting for the series to finish before going back. The anon's comment was what got me to watch this weeks episode right now rather than waiting till later.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Rakugo remains at this point still going in too long, but in fairness to the anon, yes the episodes conclusion was effective on emotional level and I bought into the dreamy atmosphere, largely due to the good cinematography the series uses.
Lenlo
Really? Im torn. Im glad they didnt bait and switch us again, but I always liked how grounded Rakugo was so im not sure how ok I am with the supernatural part and some of it felt like fanservice in regards to bringing characters back. The VA though is fantastic as always and I am definitely looking forward to this last timeskip. Cant wait to see the kids grown up.
Anonymous935526
Rakugo was otherworldly today. Not going to lie, was fighting tears back, but failed at the end.
SuperMario
@Topgavin: the bluray goes by region as well so you can only buy it in Australia/NZ region (region 4). For Madoka I still find it easiest to just go to JB Hi Fi and buy it. Sometimes I find it cheaper from JB Hi Fi than even their original distribution company.
AidanAK47
@Topgavin, I ordered my Madoka bluray's from Amazon.co.uk.
Topgavin
Where do you guys buy your merch? Was looking into buying the Madoka blurays but can't find a reliable place to ship to NZ.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: nah, Personal Shopper isn't even a horror. It's just a failed arthouse that have little to say except grief.
SuperMario
...even now. For Raw, I would never expect the positive reactions from mainstream. I think the film really push the tolerance of the voewers, but it was a refrrshing watch.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: now you mentioned 2 films thay I really fond of. I come from Vietnam, so I could easily tell you that the settings are staged. The dialogue is pretty unnatural as well, but the movie grows a lot on me. I still love the striking visual and a long, slow mood the film evoke, and It speaks to one of the theme (women's identity in Vietnam society) that speaks well to me and still relevant...
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Is personal shopper really that mediocre a horror film?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I also got back from seeing Raw a couple of hours ago, though the violence was enjoyable I was expecting it to be more so, it was also surprisingly funny at times.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I did eventually see Scent of Green Papaya, while I did like that a plot actually did appear later on I was mostly content to find it a really pretty looking and generally relaxing film.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: =< Sorry that anon post was me, was using the work computer and didn't log in.
AidanAK47
@Anon, don't do that. Don't hint at future events and just let people see for themselves.
Anonymous930711
The glasses teacher in scum's wish will have an interesting moment to look out for in the coming episodes, I read on in the manga. Only one chapter left.
SuperMario
*ED instead of OD
SuperMario
@anon928813: usually they will release the music separately from the DVD/Blurays. I believed the OP had released last year, and according to their website the OD gonna release in 5th of April
Anonymous928813
Does anyone know the release date for Zaregoto's OST? Is it bundled with one of the BDs?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know I'd like to see this Akane-sensei girl attempt to seduce me and just watch her fail at trying to do so.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My guess is that Miura will do another 6 or so chapter run then put it down for another while.
Lenlo
Im so happy Berserk Manga is starting up again, but im curious for how long. I remember sitting through that boat. I was there for all 7 years of it. Im like a hiatus vet now
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pretty much in agreement on titan where after what the first season covers I've pretty much been waiting for it to get back on track before I bother to get back to it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I should be catching up and sangatsu and acca.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never saw kekkai sensens first season so there's little chance of me watching the sequel.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Berserk and Natsume I'll just stick with the manga. I don't know about Bahamut, it took me a few episodes to get into before it became fun, but then the ending was disappointing, again maybe there's room for improvement in season 2.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would hope that eccentric families second season would be able to live up to the potential of building on the first. However it's been a while since I've seen season one, might need to refresh myself.
SuperMario
For the Spring season, it is a season of sequels. From sequels alone, I'll follow Berserk, Eccentric Family, BBB, My Hero Academia, Attack on Titan, Natsume (is it the last season?), How to Raise a Boring girlfriend. I dropped Shingeki no Bahamut after 3 episodes, but might pick it up again before the new season begin.
SuperMario
Before that, Utena and Haruhi.
SuperMario
Gotta love the extend a passionate fan would go. The last time I felt passionate about something anime-wise was Monogatari as there was a period of several months that I watched nothing but that series, and rewatched and rewatched. It just clicked with me personally at that stage of my life.
Lenlo
At this point, ill watch/read anything with Berserk on it. I already own all of the original print runs of the Manga. If I had the money, I would buy everything else.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'll be on the same boat with you regarding Berserk. I know I CAN ENDURE it (finger crossed)
Lenlo
Man, your season preview reminded me I soon have to watch another season of CGI Berserk. Im not going to like it, but its a trial I must go through as a hardcore Berserk fan.
Lenlo
Im glad they didnt lose the funny robots in their pursuit of the Grimdark
Lenlo
That flute into Skatman-like singing was great
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I had the biggest smile when Jack destroyed the robots flute and he started singing with his mouth. Looking at clips of the show on youtube I don't think I appreciated just how funny this show was. Also digging Jacks PTSD and the daughters of Aku.
Lenlo
Dude has problems and I loved the singing robot
Lenlo
Have to say, enjoyed seeing Jack again.
Lenlo
Thanks Aidan! Cant wait to watch it tonight
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well I suppose it is moreso samurai Jack wasn't really a large part of my childhood.
AidanAK47
Don't know how it is for security but I never really had trouble with it.
Lenlo
Love me some Samurai Jack though
Lenlo
It may just be Malwarebytes actin up. Ill look into it and if its a false flag check it out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never really had any opinion of samurai Jack when it was airing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh I'm enthusiastic about Kino season 2, but I want to be cautiously optimistic just in case.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But has anyone read on in the Kino novels to confirm that a second season would have good material to work with, would it fall prey to the light novel curse that apparently many of then weaken by the third volume?
Kaiser-Eoghan
The only issue I've found with kiss is that, in firefox at least, sometimes it slows down my browser but only now and then. Never had any trouble with viruses or mal/spyware on it. Though it won't allow adblock =<
SuperMario
@Aidan: I was surprised at Kino's Journey news as well. Yay for having a new season!!
SuperMario
I have no problem with kiss whatsoever regarding virus. Hehe then try to catch it at Toonami
Lenlo
Yeeeah, sorry, my anti-virus isnt that big a fan of kiss.
SuperMario
You can watch it online at kisscartoon, of course at your own risk ^^
Lenlo
I really want to watch the new Samurai Jack season, but I cant catch it when it airs and dont know where to find it otherwise
AidanAK47
Plan on getting the spring season Preview up today or Tommarrow. Things basically written up so it's just a matter of getting it to look right on the site.
AidanAK47
Who here is watching the new season of Samurai Jack? That first episode hit me hard with nostalgia. It's like he never left.
AidanAK47
Spice and Wolf season 3 may not be so impossible after all. Or hell even a Spice and wolf full remake, FMA Brotherhood style.
AidanAK47
Holy crap, Kino's Journey is getting a new anime. Never thought that would happen. Sweet.
Lenlo
Art was great, sound was great, an argument could easily be made for 9/10. Its just cohesive story and efficient use of episodes means alot to me. I kinda had to actively remind my self to watch after ep 6 and then binged 10+.
Lenlo
8.5/10. I really liked the start, the middle kinda lagged plot wise for me which is always my most important metric, and the last 3-4 episodes were great.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: how would you rate it?
SuperMario
@Lenlo: it's the middle part that I completely fell in love with. Well, guess that everyone have different taste huh?
Lenlo
So finally finished Flip Flappers. Had it on my to do list since last season. It ended pretty well imo, but the middle lagged for me in places.
AidanAK47
HXH does pull off drama well but one thing that annoys me is how it builds up these big confrontations just to have them fizzle out. An anticlimax may be unexpected but in some case it would be more satisfying to just have things play out predictably.
Lenlo
And it did it better than Naruto, which had 7 years to pull that off.
Lenlo
I think one of the reasons HxH pulled it off so well, is because the first like 100 episodes built up to it. It pulled off the slow transition of basic shounen to well developed drama sort of thing very well. It slow rolled us basically.
Topgavin
Since when did HxH become a feels trip show? ep135 just ruined me, and did it better than actual 'feels trip' shows because of how unexpected and masterfully executed it was. The Chimera ant arc may have been slow, but by itself it was very FMA:B reminiscent with the huge character cast, amazing execution and the conflict in antagonists and humans and their values/morals.
SuperMario
@KAiser: oh man, you remind me again that I need to watch Bela Tarr's films. I remember one of the blogger was frustrated at the Turin Horse for "showing the pot of boiled potato for 10 minutes". I was cackling hard with his comment.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The realist genre in general really clicks with me, the neo-realist movement, can't get enough of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Selish giant, ratcatcher and fishtank, maybe even gummo might be other good example of social realist stuff.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Bela Tarr did two accessible films in his early career called Prefab people and family nest which had a social realist feel to them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I've seen Kathy come home, Daniel Blake, Kes and wind that shakes the barley, of those Kathy and Daniel were the most emotional rewarding but being Irish it was very easy to connect with wind that shakes the barley. But yes I agree (as would my father) that Loach loves to "announce everything" or turn everything into a speech.
SuperMario
I've heard good things about Lorna's Silence as well
SuperMario
so do you watch Ken Loach? admittedly I just watched his I, Daniel Blake and it was solid, but a bit too much "message" for my taste
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I'm fond of that kitchen sink/social realist type of drama in general.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yes! I finally actually properly registered my name on here!
@Mario: I've seen Rosetta, L'enfant and le Promese, two days one night, very moving and affecting films. My eye is on Lorna's silence , but I haven't seen kid with the bike, so I'll give that a look.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: fair enough, although for me I never really care about the dub version. Always prefer the Japanese voices :)
SuperMario
They have such a simple, yet direct handheld film making styles, so simple that many accused them for being amateurish.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I actually watched a handful of Dardenne's works so I can give you my recommendation. Rosetta for me is their best, L'Efant, The Kid with a Bike and 3 Days 2 Nights are all excellent; with their latest The Unknown Girl was a slightly letdown
KaiserEoghan
@Mario: Acca is quite slow and wordy, so I will wait for the English dub.
KaiserEoghan
@Mario: Might check out some more of the Dardenne’s works soon.
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