Posted by psgels on 19 June 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews, Eden of the East



Okay, I decided to rewrite this entire thing since the review I originally wrote was crap. Kenji Kawayama really is one of the better directors out there. His sense of realism, attention to detail and originality has really made his series one of a kind. After Seirei no Moribito I therefore was very eager to watch his next work: Eden of the East. As promised, it’s a very solidly produced series, but I do have to admit that it is a tad disappointing.

After thinking a bit about the series, I’ve come to the conclusion that there are two reasons that prevent this series from being among the top of this season for me. First of all, the cast of characters leaves a bit to be desired. The lead character Saki is a great one: she grows very subtly through the series, and while she may seem weak at times, she really stands out as a strong character. The rest of the cast lacks a bit of a spark, though. Akira as the male lead is a bit too much of an idealist; his character without any seeming flaws is a bit hard to get into. The majority of the rest of the cast simply feels not fleshed out well enough: some characters show too little of themselves to really make an impact, while others are just plain annoying (most of Saki’s friends). Two notable exceptions are Kondo (whose story gets nicely explored through his limited airtime) and Micchon, who serves her purpose as a quiet side-character well.

My second issue with this series is its mystery. As a mystery-fanboy, I was of course elated after the first episode. It was so delightfully weird and unusual. There were so many different theories possible for what went on, and it really intrigued me like no other. But yeah, the thing with mystery-series is that the challenge comes with correctly revealing the mystery, and in that I feel that this series did a lukewarm job. It can’t keep its air of mystery consistent through the series, and as the series goes on and the answers come, there aren’t really any new questions asked: the answers are simply presented on a silver platter when the time seems ripe for it, without really using them for anything other than for the sake of filling up plotholes.

But yeah, despite these flaws, there still is lots of good stuff in this series. The animation really is amazing. Animation in anime is often a job of cutting corners, but here the animation is really well done to the finest details: the creators have made sure to bring their pictures to life. The CG may be a bit obtrusive at times, but the realistic movements and awesome background art really make up for it.

The setting is also very thought-provoking. Through the 11 episodes of airtime, this series takes a critical look at idealism and its positives and negatives. The whole concept behind the show remains very original and thought-provoking. You can see that a lot of imagination went into creating the setting for this series.

So overall this series served its purpose as a solid build-up for the upcoming movies, which of course I’m going to review as well as soon as they come out. I know that the rating is lower than what one might expect, but I just can’t say that this was the best of the season because of the reasons mentioned above. Small series like this one really need be focused, and in my opinion this series goofed off a bit too much at times and it feels to me that this series was trying to stuff too much into just these eleven episodes. Let’s hope that the movies will use the build-up that the series has provided, but standalone this series for me wasn’t as enjoyable as other short series as Natsu no Arashi or Ristorante Paradiso, which both did know how to make optimal use of their tie (so far, at least).

Storytelling: 8/10
Characters: 7/10
Production-Values: 9/10
Setting: 9/10

22 Responses

  1. mds says:

    your scores for production value is a bit low for a total eye-candy treatment series like this.
    From unsual character design (Chika Umino = unique choice for a thriller anime like this) and a beautiful background that only surpassed by series like Seirei no Moribito,Macross,and a little few others.
    I think it should got 10 already.

    Characters? I mean..didn’t we get some depth in many of characters already? Are they so annoying that you give it 7?
    I think it’s weird to give this series the same rating as Chaos;head (82,5??)

  2. psgels psgels says:

    First of all, thanks for reminding me to lower the rating I have for my Chaos;Head review, since that one indeed was rated too high. Second, I have long been thinking of how exactly to rate this series. Especially after that first episode, I really wanted to give this series a high rating, but it just seemed to be missing something, and I still can’t quite put my finger to what made this show turn less good than I hoped to, especially with the huge amount of fans it already has. Also, “annoying” isn’t really the right word for the characters (except Oosugi, perhaps), but my problem was more that… they didn’t really stand out. Only Saki and Kondo felt genuine; the others… didn’t really make an impact on me.

  3. Pax says:

    What can i say…one of the few good anime in the last few years and it gets such a score!!?? actually the review is what’s more unsatisfying than the score.I know you said this is suppose to be a great season but for me it was just another mediocre year for the anime industry .

    In the end,you really should have tried to come up with a better review and overall with better reasoning :(

  4. psgels psgels says:

    As for the review, apologies. I had a complete black-out when I sat down, trying to write it.

    As for the score, please do remember that I still really like series with a rating of 82,5. It just left some things left to be desired. Just in the way you apparently can’t appreciate series like Natsu no Arashi, Shangri-La, Cross Game and Phantom, I had some issues with this series that prevented me from handing out a top score.

  5. c-ron says:

    So your reasoning for labelling it unsatisfying and basically not on par with cross game or shangri la is..what exactly? You can’t ‘put your finger on what exactly it is’? What kind of reasoning is that?

  6. Leonardo says:

    I am sure very curious to know what was the best series of the seson then, in particular if Eden of East scores so low. I have been watching pretty much all of them (with a few exceptions like queen blade and), and hands down this was the best story/character-chemistry/animation/thriller of the whole season.

    Cross game was high on my list but after 4 episodes on a single baseball game is out now.

  7. Mike says:

    I really wanted to give this series a high rating, but it just seemed to be missing something

    It’s pretty obvious just what is missing in Eden… the damn movies!! :D

    I have enjoyed this show immensely, but like you said, ultimately the series felt more like a build-up for the movies, which can’t come soon enough.

  8. psgels psgels says:

    Okay, I decided to rewrite that horrible review I wrote earlier today. I hope that things make more sense now, because I really was in a strange mood when I had to write it.

  9. tj han says:

    I actually really liked Eden, and think it’s one of the best shows in the past few years I’ve seen. And we all know us anime bloggers have seen a lot. It’s sad that the run is pretty short, I’m sure with more time, it’ll be easier for Kamiyama to do his usual awesome things. None of his shows have failed to be awesome btw, and possibly is the only person in the anime industry with such a high hit ratio.

  10. bdawg says:

    in ur original review you said he wiped his memory “again” but i didn’t see that happen….where did it happen?

  11. psgels psgels says:

    Bdawg: I read that in the following page, though it’s all a bit of speculation:

    http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=2459530&postcount=15

  12. Theowne says:

    I would give it a 7. The first episode really set a large expectation of quality but I don’t think it delivered. Frankly the characters weren’t engaging/complex enough and the romance subplot felt half-hearted. THen there was the story. The best fiction with these kind of mysterious, sophisticated plots start off feeling scattered but end up completely cohesive, that never really happened with this series.

  13. hashi says:

    I liked the show and think it was one of the best of the season, but I agree that in the end it was disappointing. I accepted a lot of slight illogicalities because of the way the show mixed fantasy and reality, but such things as getting the NEETs to solve the interception problem were fairly weak, I thought.

    I think numerical ratings are impossible. This show had lots of faults, but lots of strengths to counterbalance them. I don’t know how you put that into numbers, especially in a logical rating scheme like the one you used. Life and art aren’t logical enough for numerical ratings.

    Best of the season? So far, it’s Phantom, for me. This is a close second, and Pandora is third.

    As for the memory wipe, it’s fairly clear that that is what is going on when he puts the phone to his ear and we hear the same sound we did when he first wiped his memory, and he gets a surprised look. I hold out some hope it turns out to be the sound of Juiz giving him his memory back.

  14. Machi says:

    Well nothing much to chime in here. I do think the series was solid overall but its fault for me is that it didn’t peak at any point, I’ve mentioned this before, and instead its felt like a big build up towards what will be the climax of the game.

    A climax that we won’t be seeing till the movies, which seems to be headed down the route of being a glorified episode though I hope not. The characters definitely stand out but as noted they don’t really have much of a background that gives them depth. In any case I do disagree with people saying this is the best the season has to offer when I do think Natsu no Arashi tops that for me, I’m not watching Phantom yet so I can’t really put that up for debate, and Cross Game comes in second.

  15. Pax says:

    I have to say that i am glad you rewrote the review,what bothered me yesterday was the quality of the review and not really the score,but for some reason when you score a anime under 85 i get the feeling you didn’t liked it that much seeing what other anime you also gave a 8x score,but oh well,that does not really matter as i don’t care about the score you give that much if you have good arguments.

    btw i did expect more from this anime’s soundtrack,it did not really appeal to me.Also i am definitely gonna give Natsu no Arashi another chance and comment when you’ll write the review of that series.

  16. mds says:

    glad to see you overeviewed the chaos head review…now how about you overeviewed any other anime,from what I see there are many others who got rating too low (ex :Paradise Kiss,etc) with such short review…I hope you have an extra time to rewatch it ^^;

  17. PL says:

    this show should have been given 26 eps, because the concept is so huge, and there were so many opportunities for great subplots that would have further developed the characters, it really could have been one of the best series I’ve ever watched if they’d just taken the time to truly flesh all those out… Like the theme of getting the NEETs to solve the problem, using the eden software… we should have seen a lot more buildup for that, seeing as how that seems to be the major theme of the show, and if it had been properly built up over three or four eps, it could have really driven it home emotionally. Also, Saki’s doubt/faith in Akira could have been much more intense. I’m sure the movies will go a long way towards fulfilling the promise this series had, but it would have been nice if the series itself had done that…and it could have, just by having more time

  18. totoum says:

    This is just trivial,but i had some free time and i was bored,so…
    this is the lowest rating you’ve given to a show that at one point topped your monthly chart,it’s the only one that hasn’t gotten at least 87.In fact,it’s one of only four 1st place shows that didn’t end up getting a 90 (ergo proxy:87,Natsume Yuujin Chou:87,5 and Mokke:89)

    Not critisizing your rating,just wanted to point out that I guess this fact shows that you were indeed disapointed a bit.

  19. psgels psgels says:

    totoum: interesting, I never really realized that. :P But yeah, my expectations for this series after the months were so high that seeing the rest of the show not living up to these expectations became a bit of a disappointment.

  20. AKI says:

    Well what do you know, i’m kinda late to comment, but better late than never. Whew, Higashi no Eden was a very fantastic ride but I’ve got to agree with psgels on the rating. It set a very high bar during its pilot episode and never did the succeeding episodes cleared the bar. The mystery was dealt with less and less subtlety and by the time the end approached it was like, wtf? I’m gonna wait for November until the movie comes out? No offense but personally, Chaos;Head would rank higher than Eden.

    24 episodes format would be too long for this series. The directors could have used another episode or two to build and wrap the mystery and finish with a very exciting cliffhanger. That way Eden would be a somewhat close to masterpiece. It indeed lacked something, and I concur to what it lacked – yeah, the movies.

    As with the mindwipe thingy, I’m not really sure if Akira really did wiped or regained his memories. Too much speculation can lead to further disappointment, so let’s just leave the mystery at that and let’s wait for the movies. Oh yeah, Pants is still alive? Fatty sure has a life equal to his fat density.

  21. Le says:

    I don’t think you should’ve even given your review of these 11 episodes. The show’s not even finished yet. :\

  22. Eric says:

    Hey buddy, I liked your review. Haters are gonna hate. I don’t understand why they are reading a review if they have already seen it anyway.

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Does the entirety of satsuriku no tenshi stay in the building? I could seen the sense of claustropohbia for the audience disappearing if they left it.
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Looking back on that comment, I should say, I have not read grand blues manga, so its entirely possible why the animes presentation made me laugh a bit because I've no comparison.
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Also, that blonde muscular guy in Grand blue made me laugh.
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I like how we have very little idea of the buildings layout in satsuriku no tenshi.
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Not really looking forward to Gridman as I see the typical warning signs I noticed for Kiznaiver and Franxx as well here. The only positive thing is that the series seems to have an actual villain for once. The lack of that was one of the problems that bothered me with Franxx (not counting literal faceless aliens as "actual villain").
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Chio-chan is relatable
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She's one of the actress I'm really fond of. But of course given how big a status she is
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@Mario: If voices could be married I'd marry hers =P
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Other 2 shows are Cells at Work and Phantom in the Twilight
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Kana Hanazawa's extremely busy this season. She's also voicing for 2 other shows. Give me a minute so I can check up these other shows
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The most recent I've heard Kana Hanazawa's voice was in 3-gatsu no lion where she voiced Hina, hearing her voice psychochick from happy sugar life makes it all the eerier =P Also watching this feels like less of a slog than reading the early chapters.
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Scanners/photocopier machines however are the greater satan.
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What kind of cosmic rule forbids printers to ever work properly?
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I've heard that satsuriku no tenshi's manga adaptation apparently is paced better and more effective at immersing the reader.
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I think my time with shichisei subaru stops here, the cliffhangers just feel liked bad bait and while I hate jumping to buzzwords, this was just really generic and hamfisted. Its like I'm watching a crap adaptation of a bad moe datesim visual novel.
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Yeah this is also a pretty stilted translation.
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I ended up watching it with mediocre subtitles also.
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Wait is Sirius subbed? Nonmeme subs I mean.
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Banana fish succeeds in making itself work as an action series all the more stronger, because it allows itself to have a good emotional backing. I'd forgotten how much of prick that one cop was in that scene in the manga.
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If you want a reasonably quick boredom killer thats gorier than some modern anime allows you could probably do worse than Sirius.
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Okay, regarding Happy sugar lifes manga, Late volume 6-volume 8, we're kind of getting somewhere, especially with one particular flashback relating to Shio.
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I too am not even impervious to cute and huggable things.
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*mikocchi
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@Mario: I do plan on watch sorayori, konohana kitan and hakumei no mocchi someday.
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So far, I enjoy Asobi Asobasa and Chio-chan so much that I watched them twice. Guess I do have a thing for cute girls comedy shows after all
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Hataraku Saibou, wouldn't be the first edutainment thing in anime , kemono souja and Moyashimon aswell.
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Nope, not this week. One week hold since we are sorta between/starting a new season
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No steins gate episode this week?
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Hue hue, seems like around time of first impressions I don't need to do my usual isekai complaining because it gets done by someone else instead :D
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Someone ha uploaded 7 volumes of angels of deaths manga adaptation.
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I liked the first episode but no idea what kind of story it will have
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@Mario: Should have watched the pianist, the piano or the piano teacher instead =P
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Piano no Mori is a huge disappointment for me. still haven't watched the last episode thou
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I've been backlogging Piano no mori for years.
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damn I totally forgot this exists
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That Piano no Mori ending episode... oh boy!!!
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But you can probably just take my thoughts on planet with as being symptomatic of how shounen battlely stories almost never work for me.
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Planet withs first episode felt disorganized to me and I didn't like the main characters.
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See, I think the problem regards planet with for me is that I watched it too close to the flcls ending, I know why its being compared but in flcl the disjointedness/messiness feels like something I can just let wash over me.
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@Mario: As I said it was a good premier, that despite my positivity I need more before I can see if it keeps up (angels of death).
Amagi
Man Hanebado looks really great animationwise. Now moving to the two comedies I expect to be above average. Get me another 1-2 good upcoming series and I can accept this season
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Banana Fish is just above everything else so far
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I'm not too sold on Angels of Death. You can read my feeling about it when the next post's out.
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Angels of Death and Banana Fish are clearly my favorites so far too. Planet With's last scene was interesting but I can already guess it won't have much of an impact on the progression of the story and the MCs are pretty annoying.
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So far for me its Angels of death and Bananna fish , considering giving shichisei the 3 episode rule, instant drop for planet with.
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Yeah, planet with, again, this is far from something I'm capable of sitting through a single episode of.
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But I wonder if it can keep things up.
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Oh God how to I save little blonde girl in it =<
I suppose it does rely on convenience a bit regarding that doctor guy and the protaganist going off with him, but we aren't supposed to talk about character decisions in horror.
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Although its only the first episode of satsuriku, I did enjoy the tone it was going for and think its just about achieved merging semi-creepiness with camp without too much of a clash, while still remaining fun, the lack of words words words exposition also helped make it intriguing.
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Flcl, in your insanity you invoke my empathy with your sheer overflow of crazy.
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The reason I mainly thought to bring up the rpgmaker though, was due to browsing youtube last night and finding out someone remastered the whole soundtrack.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I forgot to mention that Mugen fighter game engine thing, the videos for that were fun, people doing sprites of basically ANYONE and putting them into a 2D fighting game scenario, for a teenager at the time I discovered it, it fufilled any weird versus fantasy I had.
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I remember it was possible to edit other peoples games after downloading them, and if you played in design mode you could use a pass through walls cheat by holding shift I think.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yume nikki would be very dependent on making its atmosphere work in an adaptation.
Amagi
@Kaiser: Actually yes. You game may be "silly" but at least it sounds fun. Most anime aren't really trying, just shouting and repeating the joke won't make it funnier and I doubt anyone died of laughter because of some collision of MC face and random boobs.
Amagi
I hope the adaption of Tenshi means that there are chances for other good rpgm games like those Aidan mentioned (I think it was Aidan). Although Yume Nikki could be hard to animate, depends on the director and budget. Guess IB would be easier.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ha, those crappy rpg maker games we made on the fly were at least better than Shichisei no Subaru amirite =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
For the longest time I had an old floppy disk of that silly game I worked on, it kind of got known in my school and I lent it to some guy who I don't even remember who he was, never got it back.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I'll at least check out this rpg maker game anime adaptation this season for the novelty of an anime being based on an rpgmaker game.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also remember trying to get my brother to use that Click and create program thing to make sonic and Mario fangames. Actually I remember there was a site dedicated to Sonic gamesfactory rip off games. While it was rare, I did see attempts people made trying to make 2D platformers in rpgmaker 2003, terrible idea though as it never really worked.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I actually enjoyed Cthulhu saves the World. Guess that's somewhat the type of game I mean.
Amagi
lol same here. Stupid story for fun and those horrible converted music files that turned a little game into a 500mb monster. It was a lot of fun though, too bad these rpgm games are too common now, I would probably never play them anymore unless they are really something different. Wish more people would do such joke games.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I probably wrote awful fanfiction at that age also.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually I believe the junkie character was some kind of ninja....
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember never wanting to use the default music for it and instead threw in whatever my favourite videogame tunes were, and they had to be mp3s, which the program wouldn't allow you to use. This led to converting them into large midi files which ended up making the loading times run like shit.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh, graphically we had no clue what we were doing, terrible sprite edits in ms paint.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't think there was even a proper overworld either, it had to be unlocked.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wrote this when I was 12, which explains how dumb it is.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Some stupid side plot about a wannabe fascist flying around in an airship who couldn't speak coherently aswell. At one point the characters ended up in Moscow to take on the communists and stop the missile launch. There was a awful side quest involving a pope like character/terrorist too. Last, unlockable boss was some rich guy never mentioned once during the game.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The things I came up with though were the result of a bunch of kids trying to make a game though. Something about a group of friends who were amateur gangsters, all of them hated each other, lots of awful puns and a plot about the games creators trying to screw over the characters. Something about Neo-communists kidnapping their drug addict friend and trying to raise funds for a missile strike.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember using facesets would cut off text in the text boxes too aswell , actually I remember giving up on them and in one of the games I scripted, only allowing a one off character to have one and that became used as a joke.
Amagi
In the end it was the chipsets that made me lose my patience. My game was scifi taking place in the real world and all existing chipsets were fantasy-middle ages so you always have to draw ever single background and item yourself.
Amagi
Yeah I drew/animated everything myself as well which is why I was so damn slow. The normal sprites aren't a problem, problematic are the chipsets and battle sprites, especially when you create your own attacks. Maybe the VN-faces too because I thought I could go with three per character, but it amounted to many more in the end to convey the different emotions.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While again the name escapes me, I can remember someone did a date sim/rpg hyrbrid in rpg maker 2003, as I recall they completely drew everything themselves for it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And looking back, the games my brother , I and my friends made in it, weren't really much in the way of games as the battles/leveling up/exploration aspect were never important, it was always just a vehicle to go from one silly joke scenario to another.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can remember being especially overly into using it aswell when I was around 12, I had whole word documents of scripts and notes, down to what face sets and music to use, before the games even got made.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: Don't remind me, I spend 1 1/2 years of my life with doing my rpg maker game, I already had ~5h playing time in the end but the game wasn't nearly finished. Good times though, always worked on this as soon as I came home and was even motivated enough to jump out ot the bed at 6am on weekends
Amagi
@Aidan: So far I never spend any money but I think I will do the paid gacha this time. Kinda scared of getting my fourth Arthuria or second Nightingale/Vlad depending on which gacha I will do.
Masky
Ya know, the "anime industry produces too much anime" thing has to be true when every webnovel is getting anime and they are still running out of them to the point they are making rpg maker game adaptions xP
Kaiser-Eoghan
*gamefactory
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Do you remember other gamemaker things like klickcreate and gamefactor and Mugen?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: As in my friends and i would make games in it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I noticed one of the anime this season was based on an rpg maker game, I remember messing around with that back in 2003 with my brother. I don't know what mad father is, but yume nikki and ib have manga adaptations and I think there's a novelized version of yume nikki also. There was a silent hill and final fantasy knockoff I remember but I can't recall the names of those rpg maker games.
Masky
Huh. Planet With seems pretty interesting
AidanAK47
Damn, Got NP3 Mordred and NP4 Atlanta in the Guaranteed Gacha. Could be worse but I was hoping for someone new at least.
Kaiser-Eoghan
....but I tought it was pretty forgettable =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
There was even an anime from a few years back called amnesia aswell.
SuperMario
Just half of this new season alone there has been 3, 4 cases of amnesia already. Duh
SuperMario
Again we have another character who suffered amnesia. Why Japan? Why anime?
Kaiser-Eoghan
On banana fish, refreshing seeing darker skinned character designs in an anime series even if its just background characters.
Amagi
Not talking about the upcoming series and I haven't seen Tenshi yet, in the end I will probably watch 5+ series again but so far the season is clearly weaker than the one before. Also, there is ANOTHER isekai airing today that makes..6?
Amagi
Banana Fish is the best current season anime so far. Aside from that I will just watch Tonegawa because the manga is pretty good (although I, like many others, think that the narrator VA was a big mistake)
Amagi
I think one of the many problems most game-isekai have is that they always feel like the author never played a game in their life. I don't see the point choosing a game as setting if nothing is following any game rules.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now it will be key that the final arc and ending remain true to the manga or I will be displeased.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Banana fish's modernization isn't as problematic as I'd though based on its first episode, yes the pace is sped up but the manga much as I liked it, didn't have very good pacing at times. The two setpieces match with the tension the original mangaka showed in the manga. Lol at that guys wacky hair style though.
Lenlo
Yeah Shichisei was... interesting. Really im not having to much fun this season. Its just not as good as last
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its a problem though, when I watch the show, as a non-gamer and notice its a problem.
Kaiser-Eoghan
“Learn how to goddamn write you stupid ass HACK!”......

......Or was that DOThack
Kaiser-Eoghan
Why why do so many shows use dutch angles for the sake of it. I hate this as a former film student.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I never felt like the show even introduced itself properly.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: In all fairness, there is the 4 episode rule.
SuperMario
As I said in my 1st impression, I actually quite enjoyed the drama in Shichisei. Now come fight me guys!
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've likely gone and shatted on this show in more words than Aidan and the others will bother, but feel free to repeat what I say .
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