Posted by psgels on 3 July 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews



I haven’t been looking forward to the Eureka7 movie, for the following reason: the series was pretty conclusive, wasn’t it? Why ruin it with a movie. I therefore just assumed that it was going to be one of those recap movies like with Gurren Lagann, but as it turns out it takes place in an alternative universe. Alternative universe movies are always a bit tricky to do, as they tend to be completely different from their original source material. When inspired of course, this can lead to awesome stuff as the Utena movie. Now, did the same happen with Eureka7?

Errm, no.

While not entirely bad, this movie certainly isn’t a good one. It’s mediocre: it entertains but its content is flawed and often nonsensical. The best way I’d describe it is “shallow”. This is the sort of story that I’d label as pretentious. There is A LOT of dialogue throughout the movie, but you quickly realize that it’s not really about anything.

There’s a lot of talking spent on explaining the setting for the movie, but hardly anything is done to develop it or go in-depth. The movie also has its share of symbolism and moralism, but the symbolism either is overly obvious or doesn’t make any sense (especially Anemone’s ramblings are part of the latter), while in terms of morals this series never really gets further than saying “killing is bad” over and over, being a hypocrite in the process when Renton kills a bunch of enemies while he didn’t really need to do so.

But the biggest offender is the relationship between Renton and Eureka, because BOY has it turned cheesy. 99% of the lines between the two are directly copied from any other romance story. The lines they use are so incredibly ambiguous that they fit in any sort of situation. When they’re not angsting and repeating these lines over and over, they behave totally incomprehensible; their actions make no bloody sense and feel like they have been thought up on the spot by the creators.

Since this is a movie, it does have a number of kickass action scenes, whenever the characters aren’t talking. But here’s the deal: this is Bones. When you compare the animation in this movie to what they showed in Eureka 7 and especially Bonen no Xamdou the animation actually feels inferior. It really makes you wonder where the budget for this movie went, if the TV-episodes were animated so beautifully.

So yeah, when the story is supposed to come together in the end… it doesn’t. the plot twists, revelations and insights don’t make any bloody sense and the movie falls flat on its face. I usually like anime with lots and lots of dialogue (see Amatsuki and especially Mouryou no Hako), but this was just… shallow and rushed. Do yourself a favour, watch the amazing series, skip the movie.

Storytelling: 6/10
Characters: 7/10
Production-Values: 8/10
Setting: 7/10

33 Responses

  1. Rupert says:

    Agreed series was aswome moviies was okay Best anime ever!

  2. liked the series better and didnt understand the plot of the movie well, but none the less enjoyed watching it the same

  3. cassie says:

    Are you ever going to do a review on the Eureka Seven series? :)

  4. cring says:

    I still enjoyed the movie even for all of its faults. Watching all whole new take on the Eureka 7 universe was a little fun and refreshing in itself but the ending left me horribly confused.

  5. Me says:

    I just finished watching the movie. What i can say from all the excitment i was waiting for prior to watching the movie is well still unanswered. It was like watching teh DragonBall:Evolution movie, where all the names are there but withought the actuall “true” plot. The movie is about 10% parrallel with the beloved anime. All of the series’ beloved cahracters are antagnoized and not given real depth to thier character or motavitions. I was hoping to see some sort of a continuation to the series, but i was bitch-slapped with unnecessary plot-hole of a movie. The movie gives a 3 to 10 second glamps at waht we. i included, really wanted to know. I really did not care for the mirrored wrold as much for the the actual one. It was very difficult for me to tie anything i knew to this story. At the begining of the movie i was confused wondering whether i was watching the EUREKA SEVEN MOVIE or not. ONe clue comes into play at waht i have been watching for about 40 minutes into the movie that i find out that the movie takes place in an alternative wrold. Whit really made me not want to watch the movie. Ine series ended in a somewhat question asking what ever happend to the lovers. I had seen pictures over the net of two different characters who looked like Eureka and Renton, not to confuse wit hteh PS2 games, holding hand together near a beach with a surf board. For that reason i was hoping to see a movie about how Renton and Eureka grow up and have kids and how that wrold changed. The way this movie explaing is way too different from the series.

  6. Triple_S says:

    I understand what you have said but the company who made this was Bones. Bones makes incredible anime 2 of their animes are my all-time top 3 which are FMA and Eureka 7 if you watched the FMA movie it was almost the same this includes an alternate universe. but they make a great story for all their moveis and anime the only thing that truly goes wrong with the movie are the ending there ending people would not expect because of the character’s personality traits.

  7. jldugger says:

    Honestly, I think the movie was a shot at easy some money. They reused a lot of backgrounds, and animations.

  8. JJrZ says:

    Heres what i think happened at the end

    *Spoilers for anyone who hasnt seen the movie yet*

    The ending of the movie confused me too until i rewatched it again.

    I think that Eureka and Renton remade the whole world into their ideal world; they are not in neverland but they changed the world into neverland.

    Remember when Renton’s sister said that the 7 test subjects (anemone, eureka) had subatomic powers that could change reality and also Dominic’s last words to Renton were to go and reach for it, dont wait but make it (something like that). Nirvash disappearing and Eureka’s inablitiy to talk was due to the fact that Renton and Eureka erased the Image off their world, which then erased Anemone and Nirvash. But why didn’t it erase Eureka? Well Renton probably wished for Eureka to become human, hence the lost of speech and long hair; basically she had a rebirth.

    And lastly they wished to go on the hill where they promised their teacher they would watch over it.

    PS: I heard a rumor that there is going to be a sequel for this, maybe we will see some official explanations

  9. shebear says:

    NO SEQUEL PLEASE.
    It was bad enough once around; next time my head may actually explode from all the unanswered and unresolved WTF moments.

  10. Reiter says:

    I have to agree with almost all of the comments here. This was a very confusing and uneven effort by Bones to reimagine the series. I don’t know why they decided to go the route of an alternate universe, especially when the series was some 52 episodes long and this is a movie we’re talking about so pacing and story were going to get crunched and condensed to all hell. A continuation or true sequel would have made more sense.

    The characters were similar and some of the animation very well done but this movie had none of the heart and complex themes that were present in the series. Aside from reusing animation from the series (did Bones think the fans wouldn’t notice this red flag?), they killed off key characters (Dewey and Dominic) or made them so radically different from the series (a creepier-than-usual Hap, a very rational Anemone) that they weren’t the same person anymore. Motivations were ambiguous (not in a good way) and character actions nonsensical (the entire Gekko State crew, Holland, especially).

    I wanted to like this movie as I loved the series but watching this just left me scratching my head and strangely hollow. Hopefully this sequel they’re talking about is an actual continuation of the series and not this movie.

  11. TJ says:

    Completely agree with your assessment, although I think I found it to be even worse. This movie was a freakin’ letdown. I hated how they tried to tie in details from the series but didn’t go anywhere with them. And yes, they even screwed up the most fundamental part of Eureka 7 which is the love story between Eureka and Renton. Thumbs down.

  12. Willow says:

    wow. I have to say. Before watching this movie i re watched the whole anime again so i could remember all the bits and pieces. Even tho i had already seen the anime once, it still blew me away which goes to show how amazing the original tv series is. I just finished watching the movie now. First of all. let me say. I was extremely dissappointed in the animation. Sure, it looked nice, but the fact that nearly 50% of the animation (and probably more than that), was directly stolen or warped form the original anime dissappointed me right away. i got extremely dissappointed in the whole movie, especially in Bones, one of my fav animation companies whom is renowned for amazing anime and animation. The story did not make much sense on first watch, which is to be expected. I think that some things will tie in after i analyze the very complicated dialogue, but the story was too complex to fit into a 2 hour feature. There was not enough build-up in story or character development. I felt like i was being carried away by a wave and drowning in water with the pace of the movie and speed of dialogue and information was being thrown at me. Overall, i think the film needed more work and was overall kind of a sketchy idea that bones took and turned into a movie without taking enough time to make the story flow or have original animation. In the end, i was satisfied to see some of my favorite characters fresh on the movie screen again, but very confused and a bit dissappointed in the story. If rumors are true about another E7 movie to be released, i really hope it continues the actual tv series. Even if it is a bland story about how eureka and renton make a family after the events of the series, i still think i’d feel more satisfied after watching a movie about that (so everyone cross your fingers!!)…than a movie such as this one where a new mythos couldnt even come close to measuring up to the original one.

  13. jr says:

    Yea the movie wasn’t all that great, but if any of you are interested check out this real sequal to E7 called E8, found at http://eureka8.webs.com/
    This story is almost like the original series, but with a much darker twist. Its perfect if your not into the light side of eureka. But its a good read and it isn’t finished, the guy is still writing it, up to 34 chapters and counting. tell your friends that like E7 to check out E8, the REAL SEQUAL.

  14. tyler says:

    I say Bones contenus the E7 series

    i very mouch liked the 1st 1 so y not have a sec. 1

    i mean if BONES is bothering to make a movie that has nothing to do the series

    i think hes j sturing things up to see if enough people want it

    i do very mouch, and it would be a great challange to BONES cuz to tell u the truth, if ur a real E7 fan. ull at least want another 2 or 3 sesons

    P.S. i think the kids should have belonged to sombody elts, it gave the series a good twist but it was sort of ocuwerd

  15. Mikael says:

    Well the reason the movie doesn’t go in depth with story is because it actually is the sequel to the series at the end of the series the coralian tore off earth and left to another universe so the limit of questions wouldn’t be hit the movie takes place in the parallel universe it left to which explain anemone’s ranting about not being able to dream dreams, the anemone in the movie was created by the coralian and so through the original eureka has a connection to the original universe so her dreams are the experiences of the original anemone. This also explains Hollands ranting about seeing a beautiful green ringed world with a carved moon (see the last episode of the series) at the end of the tunnel when him and the rest of the 303rd youth forces were subjected to that experiment. also I was only able to figure all this out by watching the series then movie twice and I felt like an absolute dullard when I figured it out.

  16. Shon says:

    In my opinion…
    This is NOT a parallel. It is a continuation, and I’d like to provide some references to back this up… (spoilers?) One that is striking is the end, when Linck is shown in despair at the firing of the Hammer of God, then he is shown in company with Gramps, Mater, and Maurice all looking upward to the moon (a la end of the SERIES). I believe this world/continuation to be a result of the SERIES. The Coralians are still trying to dream like the humans do, it is even verbally expressed at the end of the movie when Anemone explains it. Humans cannot yet exist with the scub coral until they can share their dreams. Only Eureka and Renton share the same dream, but it is still incomplete, thus Eureka’s inability to speak. Why else would Dominic exist in the form he takes in the MOVIE, yet still exist at Anemone’s match? The world that the Coralians created for themselves while they try to become more human and, I predict, rejoin the original SERIES, is the Coralian’s tool by which they are learning hopes, dreams, fear, all the emotion that makes HUMANITY. Coralians have the capacity LEARN, but not all of the afore mentioned things. In the SERIES, the Coralians leave, and Renton/Eureka… All other humans remain. I think that the overall story of this movie is the Coralian’s use of Eureka and Renton to learn how to be human, as Eureka did in the Series, so that in the end, both species can reunite at Earth.

  17. Eric says:

    It was a total disappointment to me. Like everyone else, I was really excited when I first heard that there’s going to be a Eureka 7 movie. But the way the story went and how they made it, really, it destroyed the series’ reputation. It would be alright to change the story and the characters’ roles, but like the review said, it’s really shallow. I was expecting more action and information about the original series, or somehow, a new twist that is better than the original but what they made was really bad. The Gekko-state members became oh so selfish and pitiful youngsters. Even Hap, whose supposed to be one of the most pleasant characters in the series, became some cruel punk who had his drastic karma right after he abused Eureka and shot Renton. And the Nirvash! The End! What happend to them? them became some cute talking creatures! That’s the most disappointing bit. The LFOs were supposed to be the coolest mix in the story since they were the ones that give the action in the battle scenes. All in all, I’d rate the series 4/10. Maybe Bones didn’t really thought of it and simply made the movie without careful planning.

  18. _ says:

    WARNING: SPOILER
    Understanding the movie is easy, simple really: The movie sucks SO MUCH that the characters are literally trying to escape the movie and get in to the anime series.

  19. Jan says:

    This sucked even harder than the Escaflowne movie. Both good series were demolished by the movies.

  20. BIgfan says:

    you know what,i just hope that there will be the continuation series and even movies of eureka 7.I had to say that the anime is so fantastic that it just had became a part of my life.

  21. Nikki says:

    All of you who whine about the movie… Enough already. Ok you thought it sucked, it’s been repeated enough already.

    The movie was kind of a mess. I’m sure that if I rewatch it a few times, i may understand it. Some people draw links to the series and rebirth. Much of this could make sense. But bones could have made it a bit more clear.

    All in all, despite the messiness, I actually liked this movie. And the stuff people say about the link to the series makes sort of sense. I just wish the movie was a bit more well organized.

    Another movie would be just right anyway… or perhaps a continuation as a series… Bones left us guessing a bit too much on this one :p

  22. anon753236 says:

    was really dissapointed with the movie, i still think to this day that they should have made a continuation which i think would have topped the brillant series it was of perfectly.

  23. izzy says:

    when i was done with the movie i was thoroughly just awe struck- like im not sure why; weather it was good or bad. i liked the animation personally & liked how they took old footage and refreshed it to see some interesting interpretations of original series scenes. its been about 10 minutes since i finished the movie, and im sort of realizing that while this is a very good movie, like nikki said, its also very unorganized. there were alot of times where i had trouble keeping up with what was going on. like so much had already happened within the first 20 minutes i was a little WTF. but the links that people are providing to how it actually is a continuation to the series can make sense- but bones really could have made it easier on us. this is something id have to re-watch to get a better understanding of. im deffinitley recommending this movie to all my friends that watch the original series.

  24. Ryouka says:

    I have very mixed feelings about this movie. While it wasn’t bad as a movie, it was strange as an Eureka 7 movie, as a movie that relates to the series.

    I thought of a phrase that could explain this movie and I came up with one: “Put all the episodes of the series in a mixer and push the button, but not too long, then you kind of have that movie.” It’s not supposed to be a joke. Really, when I think about it, I can’t think of anything else. There’s so much change in the story and especially the characters (who are the hearts of the original series) that it didn’t really feel like the Eureka 7 series I’ve already watched twice because of its epicness.

    I think when you don’t know the series and watch the movie, it can be pretty good although a bit hard to understand.
    But if you already know the series, and I think most of the watchers do, it’s just such a strange feeling you get when watching it that you can’t really tell that it’s Eureka 7.

    I’ve never watched this kind of movie, an alternative one that is (except for FMA, but that was more of a continuation). So I don’t know if there are movies which are equal to the original series. (I’ve read the e7 manga though…)
    But, well… I’m not really pleased with it BECAUSE I know, that the series has another feeling to it that can’t be exchanged in this way.
    It’s just … so strange :/

  25. I saw it in japanese before it was on AS. It’s weird hearing it in english after you’ve heard it in japanese. All in all, its pretty cool. I just wish I had time to watch it (get up early for church, etc.).

  26. Chris B says:

    Pointless movie, would have preferred a sequel, this film is a complete betrayal of the Anime casting aside any form of quality, substance and subtlety!

  27. Anonymous says:

    Haha, let me share a little story with y’all.

    So I never watched the series. Bummer, huh? Well, I watched this movie a few times, and loved it to bits. Why? Intrigue galore, mysteries solved, wonderfully open, happy ending where Eureka sacrificed her dreams (born of memories) for Renton’s. The characters were lovable (except for the crew of the Gecko, who seemed as immature as their age would betray), and the Nirvash was quite cute. The romance was adorable, no matter how “formulaic” it’s described. I was so inspired I then turned to the anime, eager to see the object of abject fan praise.

    I…could barely even get through it. The screen-time was dominated by the 3 whining bratty kids (who exactly is the target audience here?), poorly inserted humor, incompetent angsting Renton (who later experiences a ridiculously forced “growth” via laughably contrived scenes), and an ending that was so blatantly rushed (or at least stitched together with duct tape) that the series, while somewhat comprehensible, was quite a childishly pathetic flop. There were some powerful moments, granted (lady crawling to her death before the ship exploded, brat with the gun going to “shoot” our hero, etc) which merely contributed the gimmicky moments the show required to keep up a pacing reminiscent of faltering toddlers, a theme this show agonizingly attempts to cram down the proverbial throat.

    The two forms of the story are incompatible, simple as that. It’s like the movie producers themselves gave up on the original series’ “aspirations” and accordingly forgot everything in the series, leading them to re-dream its entire premise — from the characters up. That said, I’m fairly sure I would have understood and appreciated the series more if I hadn’t seen the movie first. All differences it seems I seem to consider flaws, after all.

    Hence the “bummer.”

    Quite ironic, if you ask me (nobody asked me). The few people who don’t seem to fawn over the series probably would never watch this movie anyway. Except the exceptions. Like…

    yours truly.
    XD

  28. Nick says:

    Maybe because I watched this movie directly after watching the series (marathon style), or maybe because I read a little about the movie before I watched it, but I kinda enjoyed it. I thought this was going to be a movie “based on” the anime, and I didn’t expect any tie-ins to the anime at all.

    I was surprised when I realized that this movie is entirely built off the anime to the point where it doesn’t really stand on its own. It makes some sense if you think about it as a dream of sorts (esp. since about 90% of the anime was spent reminding everyone that the land is dreaming) and it explains why the character’s motivations aren’t well developed – Everything seems to build on the 50 episodes of experience we have already watched.

  29. Yarow12 says:

    I love this movie. It’s now in my top 5. The ending song was SO beautiful that I played the last scene, including the credits more than six times in a row. ^^
    Also, the movie was in no way confusing for me. ;)

  30. hoiut says:

    I agree with the long comment here. This movie is great on its own, having not seen the series yet. That said, I still plan to. I’m worried about the whiny kids like everyone else, though. XD

    Of course I’m also worried I’ll hate the movie (or the series) after watching all the episodes… I usually agree on the ratings here, but this movie was pretty epic.

  31. Quite ironic, if you ask me (nobody asked me). The few people who don’t seem to fawn over the series probably would never watch this movie anyway. Except the exceptions. Like…

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@Masky, yeah the portrayal of the church was very one dimensional in this. Probably a victim of the short run time, but possibly not.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am as a thirty year old man shamelessly shamelessly looking forward to Nanoha reflections when it comes out.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: the film's from the guy who directed GitS SAC so yeah I will give it a watch if I have a chance
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@Mario: Do we care about this? : https://myanimelist.net/anime/33204/Hirune_Hime__Shiranai_Watashi_no_Monogatari its being screened over here next week I think.
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@Aidan: I will read Crecy and plenatary then.
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Anyhoo, I did like netflix Castlevania too, but I can't help but feel that Warren Ellis seems like sort of atheist who let's their opinion on christianity out in tract-y ways :D I mean, not that medieval catholic church wasn't corrupt, but that element isn't really from the games so it gotta come from him and it feels weakest aspect of the show.
Masky
@AidanAK47: Castlevania's story would make for good children's action show or cheesy action movie though :D Like, yeah, games are rather story thin(when they aren't melodramatic) but concept of Castlevania's story isn't that bad for a series.
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Kono Suba ftw
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@Lenlo, there are some good moments even after the Shark jump but yeah, all downhill from here.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: it was a captivating jump, wasn't it?
Lenlo
I think I hit the shark jump in Kado.
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Koi to Uso....kind of as vanilla a romance story can get, and that premise doesn’t do anything for me after Sakura Sakura. Honestly the star-crossed love worked better with Nisekoi.
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Well they were a good series of episodes, so guess it was a success
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@Lenlo, Already has got one. Second season with 8 episodes is coming. Honestly makes me think that it's really the rest of season one and these four episodes were gauging the audience.
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I believe it has been re-newed.
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@Mario, Well you do write for STAR CROSSED anime blog. Maybe that's a factor.
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@Aidan: "What is a man" huh? It's fun to listen to actually :)
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I can't believe it myself... but I get sucked into the story of Koi to Uso. Yesterday was reading the manga until 2am (and I hd to wake up at 6.30 for work). SINCE WHEN FORCED CONTRIVED STAR-CROSSED ROMANCE BECOME MY THING? I blame those big eyes.
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I mean the best game in the series has dialogue like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMTizJemHO8
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@Masky, Castlevaina games are never played for their story. If anything the story is usually the weakest element. When I heard of this series before I thought it was ridiculous because the story of the games was too weak to make into a good story.
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Better than any right to be? Like I know that video game adaptions usually suck, but surely that doesn't mean that being video game adaption itself is qualification for being bad? :p
AidanAK47
I will see if I can do a write up on Castlevaina tommarrow but yeah for a video game adaption it's better than it has any right to be. I think the reason for that is Warren Ellis.
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Castlevania actually has good action scenes too. Very pretty.
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The Netflix Castlevania series, one episode in so far, is actually pretty good. It does justice to the old series, more than any other videogame adaptation ive seen.
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And I know this is way off the mark but whenever I hear Baltimore I'm thinking of Beach House band
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@Lenlo: I feel you that the action scenes feel no weight.
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Three degrees of Nazi. We always get there somehow
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The story seems setting up to repeat to me as well, with the mutant/normie racial problems. Hopefully the Reflection event/mystery over takes that though.
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@Kaiser: Vatican's mysteries have gotten to a ridiculous level. This week throws up sexual abuse, drug use, corruption and somehow Nazis are involved as well. It's just too much for me
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I don't really mind the low frame rate in the Reflection. I think the choice is deliberated to resemble the comic motion. I'm more worried about the story as they have some random fights that I feel even more dreamy than 18if
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@Kaiser, I quite liked the Reflections art but the animation, or lack thereof, held it back.
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Once again my anime taste falls in with Marios =P
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Though you can only imagine if shinbo or Yuasa were to work on 18...if.
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Although I do think 18..if is exactly what I need right now, I am not certain it will top flipflappers.
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The premise for ballroom is of no interest to me.
I’m hearing Vatican is quite silly in a campy horror way
which appeals to me.
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While visually the show seemed to improve with episode 3, I wasn’t all that emotionally invested with that story.
I would take this protagonist over IdiotMCx100 any day.
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I’ve begun (at last)checking out some of the series airing this season.
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@Vonter Graces is nothing compared to the pandering mess that Symphonia 2 was. Just embarrassing.
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Tales of Graces sadly might have the most childish, and pandering story of the series.
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AidanAK47 - Tales of Graces worked around having to both attack and defend to continue attacking. If just attacked you made less and weaker attacks. It was a way of cooldown that was more reliant on the player thinking about the attacks it used. Later games followed a more typical cooldown and combined special attacks with the regular ones.
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Reflection was kinda painful to watch, I didn't expect anything in the first place and was disappointed nonetheless.
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I cant snowboard or ski at all so its ok.
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I did hit my head on the ground (for the first time) but I was lucky that I was wearing helmet. I curse S turn
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@lenlo: it's fun but it's a lot of pain as well.
Lenlo
Sounds like fun
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I'm literally covered in snow right now with my butt numbed. Will get back home in few hours to catch up on 18if
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Havnt had the chance to watch it yet, but Reflection apparently looks like a comic book but has weird fight scenes? Ill get that write up tomorrow once I watch it tonight.
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That's one of the things that mainly turned me off. The battle system is essentially button mashing.
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@K-Off, A lot of people say Vesperia is their favorite as well. I only have played Abyss so far and was really not impressed with it.
K-Off
@Kaiser Damn, Detective Conan has a long way to go then.
K-Off
Phantasia was my first Tales game (and its anime is the best amongst anything after) but Symphonia really did take it to another level. In general I think most fans will agree with Symphonia, Abyss, and Xillia in their favorites.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I believe Kochikame is the longest running manga of all time 1,960 chapters, 200 volumes, actually does have a record.
K-Off
@Aidan I remember you saying how it's funny that no two fans of Tales will have the same favorite title. But that's definitely because Tales has changed very little over the years, and they've always been solid games, and so for most fans they'll remember the first title they played.
K-Off
@Vonter With you there. The art direction in Tales hasn't been really that exciting since Xillia, and as a long time fan of the series I finally got sick of the gameplay after Vesperia.
K-Off
Jeez, detective Conan is reaching its 1000th chapter. Pretty sure it's a milestone for some Guinness record.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*Embarassing
**Here
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also agree about complaints made about the mumbled dialogue when it does occur.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think thin red line is a good thing to bring up hear as throughout much of Dunkirk I was thinking about how much more Mallick's film did for me, how I should have been re-watching that instead.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yet at the same time I couldn't connect with it, it became repetitive, disjointed and the shots/Zimmer score towards the end were embaeassing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There were definitely aspects to praise, to be fair there is no shortage of action, it eschews exposition and tries to visually immerse the viewer to make them feel as if they are present.
Lenlo
Im ready. Reflection comes on tomorrow, so heres hopin its worth it
Anonymous1279803
it was trash. just british propaganda
Vonter
I finished Tales of Berseria. And I'm conflicted. I really liked the story and the characters, essentially a Tales of were the story is told form the perspective of the villains. I also saw the episodes Ufotable made of the beginning of the game, and I want moar. It's was a waste as game, considering the archaic and dull game design. It mainly came up to buying time in regards to things to play.
KTravlos
I also watched it. I thought it was a great war film. Very intense and unrelenting, but still at points the images reminded me of Thin Red Line. My only quip was the end. The film did a great job in getting me to feel the hopelessness the soldiers felt. So great that the attempt at making a "happy" end was forced and fell flat. Beyond that I liked it.
Anonymous1279184
I already lost interest when I saw Inception which I didn't really like. My favorite Nolan movie will always be Memento.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, saw Dunkirk, I think at this point I'm done with giving Nolan any more chances, this like his other works, I can appreciate them to some extent but come away honestly not giving a damn.
SuperMario
and this week's Sakura Quest is damn great as well... This backstory of Chitose and Kadota rocks
SuperMario
Just watching the 2nd episode of Gamers, It was actually pretty good. I can't believe they fleshing out that annoying hot guy into such a relatable guy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I recall the extent of my interest in Linkin park in my early teens was strictly the breaking the habit video and that was it.
SuperMario
The frontman of Linkin Park commited suicide by hanging himself... sad news. Never been his fan but I feel sad nonetheless
AidanAK47
Actually forgot with all the impressions and whatnot but I do believe we said we would review the Castlevania Netflix series. Now that everything has calmed down I will see if I can do a write up next week.
AidanAK47
I was busy trying to discern whether the story had any point besides "Life is shit"
Kaiser-Eoghan
Again, while I enjoyed punpun, the excessive internal narration, when marathoned, I had to take a break.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Come to think of it, I don't even have a phone that does that, haven't bought a new one since 2004.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, you see I could never force myself to browse/type/use the internet on a phone, too used to using a desktop exclusively for that.
AidanAK47
Oh bloody hell. Stupid phone autocorrect. Yeah I meant Punpun.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Read Freesia.
Kaiser-Eoghan
umi no onnanoko is probably the exact thing ninjarealist would be interested in.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*oyasumi punpun
I found it alot more accessible than nijigahara holograph. deded-demon-destruction while enjoyable, is beneath him. Solanin is probably his easiest work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I assume you man oyasui punpun. Its been about five years since I read in, the final couple of volumes stay in my mind the most, all the stuff with him, the girl and his uncle also, I love Asano Inios art and the surreal elements but I got lost/bored somewhere in the middle and most of the other side characters and the cult thing I didn't really care about.
AidanAK47
Finished reading Goodnight Pumping. Really not sure on what to think of it. The story kept me reading but it just felt really empty.
Anonymous1276500
There are 2 Nyaa's now. This one is considered the 'real' one: https://nyaa.si
Kaiser-Eoghan
Looks like anirena is down for me. Although it looks like nyaa went back up as this: https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/
SuperMario
Aidan: Fate/Apocrypha, Made in Abyss, Kakegurui
Mario: Princess Principal, 18if, Youkoso
Lenlo: Touken Ranbu, The Reflection
Wooper: Ballroom, Shoukoku no Altair
Helghast: Re:Creators
SuperMario
Note: I'm deciding to take Classroom of the Elite as my third show to cover. So, for this season we are covering 11 shows.
Vonter
Just to end, it kind of shows than even if a story is predictable on where it is going. Characters can make up for that, if they're funny, interesting, and perhaps not agreeing all the time and having different agendas and points of view despite all sharing the same boat.
Vonter
Yet as a game Tales hasn't felt deep since Symphonia, (at least from the ones I've played). I'm wondering if it'll leave me wanting check the anime of Zestiria, since apparently Berseria is a prequel to that game. And many say the anime is better than the game. (I can see why).
Vonter
I also like the reused Tales beats from Phantasia and Berseria. It those have moments like when Lloyd was exiled and Cless had his village attacked. It has clear antagonists unlike Vesperia, and trying harder than the cartoony villains of Graces.
Vonter
I've been playing Tales of Berseria, and it seems to be the anti Tales of Graces. In which I'm caring about the story and characters, but the gameplay is a drag. This is the first time I've been autoplaying an JRPG. But unlike Gravity Rush 2, I'm not dropping it because I'm liking the interactions of these characters even if it gets, campy, overdramatic, or edgy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I mean I watch anime and films subtitled but sometimes my reading speed can be slow if theres a lot of dialogue.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, I do that sometimes, mostly to check for message updates or on occasion to read reviews of what I am watching or to download more/check downloads.
SuperMario
For instance, I watched Okja yesterday and I had to take 15', 20' minute break in between for snack, surfing webs and playing mobile games...
SuperMario
I watched Fanny and Alexander... don't really remember which version I watched thou. I think it's a TV version since it divides into 4 separate parts
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it just that... my attention span has shortened greatly and I just can't stay focus on movies over an hour mark. In cinema, it's alright since you can't move anywhere but now it's abig task to finish a 2 hour and a half movie for me
Kaiser-Eoghan
And is good enough to keep up the quality for that long.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'll say this, for every medium, to me the length of something isn't so much the issue, if you have a writer good enough to keep something going for ages then the length shouldn't be an issue.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: If something goes over three hours I treat it as a miniseries and watch one hour or two a day.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: lol if you thought thats long, have you seen the extended versions of scenes from a marriage and fanny & alexander by Bergman? I can't wait to get my hands on the tv versions I hear they're completely different.
SuperMario
Okja is pretty entertaining with pointed social commentary. I don't really feel Tilda Swinton's double roles add up much but everything else is great. Bong has never disappointed me
SuperMario
@Kaiser: good luck with Satantango then. I guess now if I watch an 8-hour long film it would take me a whole week to finish it :/
Kaiser-Eoghan
Made in abyss and vatican keep staring at me. Although I'm not chancing them yet or anything else until I hear a bit more.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My once massive film backlog is nearly cleared. I can try watching stuff this season hopefully.
K-Off
Same boat here. For the first time in a long time I spent almost half the day catching up on all of my manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I'll have two weeks leave, I will finally watch Satantango, all eight hours of that film.
AidanAK47
I did a double take when I saw this. One of these things is not like the other.... http://gematsu.com/2017/07/blazblue-cross-tag-battle-announced
SuperMario
Well, finally have a bit of precious free time to watch something else and I have too much things to watch. Castlevania, the final Kizumonogatari movie, live-action Okja and some books planned to read... I guess I'll go with Okja today
Ninja
Looking forward to that Dies review
Lenlo
Yaaay! Time to enjoy your blogging time
AidanAK47
And now we are up to date. Just need to finally get that Dies Irae Review posted.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Then again I'll watch almost every horror film I can, don't even mind the awful acting most have.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pet cemetary was a guilty pleasure of mine when I was a teenager.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't know how I'd feel if I rewatched salems lot, although a positive is that it did have James Mason in it and it was done in that 70s style of slow burn horror that I love.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The IT film has aged horribly and thats one case where I would advocate a remake.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Stand by me was a perftly watchable coming of age film and it surprised me, seeing a non-horror King story.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Okay theres one way to settle this =P Lovecraft > all of them ;) I have actually enjoyed some King adaptations even though I know the Shining took liberties , I also enjoyed Carrie and Apt Pupil.
Lenlo
@Kaiser, please. Early King > Richard Matheson > Modern King. Kings early works were good.
Lenlo
@Aidan, its true that Monty was the mind behind the fights. Sad, but I think the other directors are starting to come into their own instead of trying to copy Monty.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But we all know Richard Matheson > King.
Kaiser-Eoghan
He did some collabs with Stephen King I believe.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Like the dead films he's trying to be thematic, although this one is clumsily put together, I kind of like how it hybridizes the 50s with 70s style exploitation, it has its moments.
Kaiser-Eoghan
hmmm the only non Dead trilogy film I've seen by Romero is the Crazies, feels like he's still finding his voice with it.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, Part of the reason is that they started using better animation software. But despite that there was a downgrade in fight chorgraphy when Monty died. Though the story I find is getting better.
AidanAK47
@Kinseryu, I think it's ridiculous to everyone but there are those that choose to ignore it.
@Anon, That's a bit harsh. It is true that his later works never truly panned out but he did pretty much popularise the zombie apoc. Even if Day of the Triffids did it before him.
Lenlo
Every season RWBY gets just a little bit prettier. Rooster Teeth really does have some of the better 3D animation skills out there.
Anonymous1272531
goerge romero was a hack trying desperate to stay relevant.
Kinseryu
Tenshi3P... I thought it was just me that this show was just ridiculous by putting three ten years old girl that knows how to play electrical instruments. They are insulting the people who plays these. But good thing I found this site with your first impression. I laughed and I feel better. Lol.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: he passed away? damn. He was the Father of Zombie genre. So like him or hate him, he was influential to say the least. RIP.
Kaiser_Eoghan
...holy shit George A Romero died? Now I have to watch the rest of his films.
Kaiser_Eoghan
Rei Hiroe is really dicking around with black lagoon lately, he's still releasing wasted chapters, just like re:creators, the most recent chapter of black lagoon was a slog.
Kaiser_Eoghan
Maybe the conversation and lives of others could sort of count as espionage stories to an extent.
Kaiser_Eoghan
If you're interested in spy fiction, Spy who came in from the cold, most wanted man, Smiley's people, deadly affair and tinker tailor soldier spy are your best bet.
SuperMario
@Travlos (regarding yoir earlier comment): yeah, it hit me as well that most of regular readers have been here even longer than myself. So thanks for sticking around mates
SuperMario
@Travlos: playing catch up with both Re:Creators and Virgin Soul yesterday. Agreed that last week's Re:Creators was weak because it focused on the Creators (they're not good) but last episode was on par again. Virgin Soul, I loved that episode that the girls go bacl to Nina's hometown
SuperMario
@anon1272074: I still haven't had the time to watch Pripri yet (probably in few more hours), but you bet I'm looking forward to it
Anonymous1272074
Then again, James Bond does count as a spy. I meant not a realistic one.
Anonymous1272074
Princess Principal 2 was pretty good. Still more James Bond via little girls than spies, but this episode was more about intrigue and stuff than action.
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