Posted by psgels on 3 July 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews



I haven’t been looking forward to the Eureka7 movie, for the following reason: the series was pretty conclusive, wasn’t it? Why ruin it with a movie. I therefore just assumed that it was going to be one of those recap movies like with Gurren Lagann, but as it turns out it takes place in an alternative universe. Alternative universe movies are always a bit tricky to do, as they tend to be completely different from their original source material. When inspired of course, this can lead to awesome stuff as the Utena movie. Now, did the same happen with Eureka7?

Errm, no.

While not entirely bad, this movie certainly isn’t a good one. It’s mediocre: it entertains but its content is flawed and often nonsensical. The best way I’d describe it is “shallow”. This is the sort of story that I’d label as pretentious. There is A LOT of dialogue throughout the movie, but you quickly realize that it’s not really about anything.

There’s a lot of talking spent on explaining the setting for the movie, but hardly anything is done to develop it or go in-depth. The movie also has its share of symbolism and moralism, but the symbolism either is overly obvious or doesn’t make any sense (especially Anemone’s ramblings are part of the latter), while in terms of morals this series never really gets further than saying “killing is bad” over and over, being a hypocrite in the process when Renton kills a bunch of enemies while he didn’t really need to do so.

But the biggest offender is the relationship between Renton and Eureka, because BOY has it turned cheesy. 99% of the lines between the two are directly copied from any other romance story. The lines they use are so incredibly ambiguous that they fit in any sort of situation. When they’re not angsting and repeating these lines over and over, they behave totally incomprehensible; their actions make no bloody sense and feel like they have been thought up on the spot by the creators.

Since this is a movie, it does have a number of kickass action scenes, whenever the characters aren’t talking. But here’s the deal: this is Bones. When you compare the animation in this movie to what they showed in Eureka 7 and especially Bonen no Xamdou the animation actually feels inferior. It really makes you wonder where the budget for this movie went, if the TV-episodes were animated so beautifully.

So yeah, when the story is supposed to come together in the end… it doesn’t. the plot twists, revelations and insights don’t make any bloody sense and the movie falls flat on its face. I usually like anime with lots and lots of dialogue (see Amatsuki and especially Mouryou no Hako), but this was just… shallow and rushed. Do yourself a favour, watch the amazing series, skip the movie.

Storytelling: 6/10
Characters: 7/10
Production-Values: 8/10
Setting: 7/10

33 Responses

  1. Rupert says:

    Agreed series was aswome moviies was okay Best anime ever!

  2. liked the series better and didnt understand the plot of the movie well, but none the less enjoyed watching it the same

  3. cassie says:

    Are you ever going to do a review on the Eureka Seven series? :)

  4. cring says:

    I still enjoyed the movie even for all of its faults. Watching all whole new take on the Eureka 7 universe was a little fun and refreshing in itself but the ending left me horribly confused.

  5. Me says:

    I just finished watching the movie. What i can say from all the excitment i was waiting for prior to watching the movie is well still unanswered. It was like watching teh DragonBall:Evolution movie, where all the names are there but withought the actuall “true” plot. The movie is about 10% parrallel with the beloved anime. All of the series’ beloved cahracters are antagnoized and not given real depth to thier character or motavitions. I was hoping to see some sort of a continuation to the series, but i was bitch-slapped with unnecessary plot-hole of a movie. The movie gives a 3 to 10 second glamps at waht we. i included, really wanted to know. I really did not care for the mirrored wrold as much for the the actual one. It was very difficult for me to tie anything i knew to this story. At the begining of the movie i was confused wondering whether i was watching the EUREKA SEVEN MOVIE or not. ONe clue comes into play at waht i have been watching for about 40 minutes into the movie that i find out that the movie takes place in an alternative wrold. Whit really made me not want to watch the movie. Ine series ended in a somewhat question asking what ever happend to the lovers. I had seen pictures over the net of two different characters who looked like Eureka and Renton, not to confuse wit hteh PS2 games, holding hand together near a beach with a surf board. For that reason i was hoping to see a movie about how Renton and Eureka grow up and have kids and how that wrold changed. The way this movie explaing is way too different from the series.

  6. Triple_S says:

    I understand what you have said but the company who made this was Bones. Bones makes incredible anime 2 of their animes are my all-time top 3 which are FMA and Eureka 7 if you watched the FMA movie it was almost the same this includes an alternate universe. but they make a great story for all their moveis and anime the only thing that truly goes wrong with the movie are the ending there ending people would not expect because of the character’s personality traits.

  7. jldugger says:

    Honestly, I think the movie was a shot at easy some money. They reused a lot of backgrounds, and animations.

  8. JJrZ says:

    Heres what i think happened at the end

    *Spoilers for anyone who hasnt seen the movie yet*

    The ending of the movie confused me too until i rewatched it again.

    I think that Eureka and Renton remade the whole world into their ideal world; they are not in neverland but they changed the world into neverland.

    Remember when Renton’s sister said that the 7 test subjects (anemone, eureka) had subatomic powers that could change reality and also Dominic’s last words to Renton were to go and reach for it, dont wait but make it (something like that). Nirvash disappearing and Eureka’s inablitiy to talk was due to the fact that Renton and Eureka erased the Image off their world, which then erased Anemone and Nirvash. But why didn’t it erase Eureka? Well Renton probably wished for Eureka to become human, hence the lost of speech and long hair; basically she had a rebirth.

    And lastly they wished to go on the hill where they promised their teacher they would watch over it.

    PS: I heard a rumor that there is going to be a sequel for this, maybe we will see some official explanations

  9. shebear says:

    NO SEQUEL PLEASE.
    It was bad enough once around; next time my head may actually explode from all the unanswered and unresolved WTF moments.

  10. Reiter says:

    I have to agree with almost all of the comments here. This was a very confusing and uneven effort by Bones to reimagine the series. I don’t know why they decided to go the route of an alternate universe, especially when the series was some 52 episodes long and this is a movie we’re talking about so pacing and story were going to get crunched and condensed to all hell. A continuation or true sequel would have made more sense.

    The characters were similar and some of the animation very well done but this movie had none of the heart and complex themes that were present in the series. Aside from reusing animation from the series (did Bones think the fans wouldn’t notice this red flag?), they killed off key characters (Dewey and Dominic) or made them so radically different from the series (a creepier-than-usual Hap, a very rational Anemone) that they weren’t the same person anymore. Motivations were ambiguous (not in a good way) and character actions nonsensical (the entire Gekko State crew, Holland, especially).

    I wanted to like this movie as I loved the series but watching this just left me scratching my head and strangely hollow. Hopefully this sequel they’re talking about is an actual continuation of the series and not this movie.

  11. TJ says:

    Completely agree with your assessment, although I think I found it to be even worse. This movie was a freakin’ letdown. I hated how they tried to tie in details from the series but didn’t go anywhere with them. And yes, they even screwed up the most fundamental part of Eureka 7 which is the love story between Eureka and Renton. Thumbs down.

  12. Willow says:

    wow. I have to say. Before watching this movie i re watched the whole anime again so i could remember all the bits and pieces. Even tho i had already seen the anime once, it still blew me away which goes to show how amazing the original tv series is. I just finished watching the movie now. First of all. let me say. I was extremely dissappointed in the animation. Sure, it looked nice, but the fact that nearly 50% of the animation (and probably more than that), was directly stolen or warped form the original anime dissappointed me right away. i got extremely dissappointed in the whole movie, especially in Bones, one of my fav animation companies whom is renowned for amazing anime and animation. The story did not make much sense on first watch, which is to be expected. I think that some things will tie in after i analyze the very complicated dialogue, but the story was too complex to fit into a 2 hour feature. There was not enough build-up in story or character development. I felt like i was being carried away by a wave and drowning in water with the pace of the movie and speed of dialogue and information was being thrown at me. Overall, i think the film needed more work and was overall kind of a sketchy idea that bones took and turned into a movie without taking enough time to make the story flow or have original animation. In the end, i was satisfied to see some of my favorite characters fresh on the movie screen again, but very confused and a bit dissappointed in the story. If rumors are true about another E7 movie to be released, i really hope it continues the actual tv series. Even if it is a bland story about how eureka and renton make a family after the events of the series, i still think i’d feel more satisfied after watching a movie about that (so everyone cross your fingers!!)…than a movie such as this one where a new mythos couldnt even come close to measuring up to the original one.

  13. jr says:

    Yea the movie wasn’t all that great, but if any of you are interested check out this real sequal to E7 called E8, found at http://eureka8.webs.com/
    This story is almost like the original series, but with a much darker twist. Its perfect if your not into the light side of eureka. But its a good read and it isn’t finished, the guy is still writing it, up to 34 chapters and counting. tell your friends that like E7 to check out E8, the REAL SEQUAL.

  14. tyler says:

    I say Bones contenus the E7 series

    i very mouch liked the 1st 1 so y not have a sec. 1

    i mean if BONES is bothering to make a movie that has nothing to do the series

    i think hes j sturing things up to see if enough people want it

    i do very mouch, and it would be a great challange to BONES cuz to tell u the truth, if ur a real E7 fan. ull at least want another 2 or 3 sesons

    P.S. i think the kids should have belonged to sombody elts, it gave the series a good twist but it was sort of ocuwerd

  15. Mikael says:

    Well the reason the movie doesn’t go in depth with story is because it actually is the sequel to the series at the end of the series the coralian tore off earth and left to another universe so the limit of questions wouldn’t be hit the movie takes place in the parallel universe it left to which explain anemone’s ranting about not being able to dream dreams, the anemone in the movie was created by the coralian and so through the original eureka has a connection to the original universe so her dreams are the experiences of the original anemone. This also explains Hollands ranting about seeing a beautiful green ringed world with a carved moon (see the last episode of the series) at the end of the tunnel when him and the rest of the 303rd youth forces were subjected to that experiment. also I was only able to figure all this out by watching the series then movie twice and I felt like an absolute dullard when I figured it out.

  16. Shon says:

    In my opinion…
    This is NOT a parallel. It is a continuation, and I’d like to provide some references to back this up… (spoilers?) One that is striking is the end, when Linck is shown in despair at the firing of the Hammer of God, then he is shown in company with Gramps, Mater, and Maurice all looking upward to the moon (a la end of the SERIES). I believe this world/continuation to be a result of the SERIES. The Coralians are still trying to dream like the humans do, it is even verbally expressed at the end of the movie when Anemone explains it. Humans cannot yet exist with the scub coral until they can share their dreams. Only Eureka and Renton share the same dream, but it is still incomplete, thus Eureka’s inability to speak. Why else would Dominic exist in the form he takes in the MOVIE, yet still exist at Anemone’s match? The world that the Coralians created for themselves while they try to become more human and, I predict, rejoin the original SERIES, is the Coralian’s tool by which they are learning hopes, dreams, fear, all the emotion that makes HUMANITY. Coralians have the capacity LEARN, but not all of the afore mentioned things. In the SERIES, the Coralians leave, and Renton/Eureka… All other humans remain. I think that the overall story of this movie is the Coralian’s use of Eureka and Renton to learn how to be human, as Eureka did in the Series, so that in the end, both species can reunite at Earth.

  17. Eric says:

    It was a total disappointment to me. Like everyone else, I was really excited when I first heard that there’s going to be a Eureka 7 movie. But the way the story went and how they made it, really, it destroyed the series’ reputation. It would be alright to change the story and the characters’ roles, but like the review said, it’s really shallow. I was expecting more action and information about the original series, or somehow, a new twist that is better than the original but what they made was really bad. The Gekko-state members became oh so selfish and pitiful youngsters. Even Hap, whose supposed to be one of the most pleasant characters in the series, became some cruel punk who had his drastic karma right after he abused Eureka and shot Renton. And the Nirvash! The End! What happend to them? them became some cute talking creatures! That’s the most disappointing bit. The LFOs were supposed to be the coolest mix in the story since they were the ones that give the action in the battle scenes. All in all, I’d rate the series 4/10. Maybe Bones didn’t really thought of it and simply made the movie without careful planning.

  18. _ says:

    WARNING: SPOILER
    Understanding the movie is easy, simple really: The movie sucks SO MUCH that the characters are literally trying to escape the movie and get in to the anime series.

  19. Jan says:

    This sucked even harder than the Escaflowne movie. Both good series were demolished by the movies.

  20. BIgfan says:

    you know what,i just hope that there will be the continuation series and even movies of eureka 7.I had to say that the anime is so fantastic that it just had became a part of my life.

  21. Nikki says:

    All of you who whine about the movie… Enough already. Ok you thought it sucked, it’s been repeated enough already.

    The movie was kind of a mess. I’m sure that if I rewatch it a few times, i may understand it. Some people draw links to the series and rebirth. Much of this could make sense. But bones could have made it a bit more clear.

    All in all, despite the messiness, I actually liked this movie. And the stuff people say about the link to the series makes sort of sense. I just wish the movie was a bit more well organized.

    Another movie would be just right anyway… or perhaps a continuation as a series… Bones left us guessing a bit too much on this one :p

  22. anon753236 says:

    was really dissapointed with the movie, i still think to this day that they should have made a continuation which i think would have topped the brillant series it was of perfectly.

  23. izzy says:

    when i was done with the movie i was thoroughly just awe struck- like im not sure why; weather it was good or bad. i liked the animation personally & liked how they took old footage and refreshed it to see some interesting interpretations of original series scenes. its been about 10 minutes since i finished the movie, and im sort of realizing that while this is a very good movie, like nikki said, its also very unorganized. there were alot of times where i had trouble keeping up with what was going on. like so much had already happened within the first 20 minutes i was a little WTF. but the links that people are providing to how it actually is a continuation to the series can make sense- but bones really could have made it easier on us. this is something id have to re-watch to get a better understanding of. im deffinitley recommending this movie to all my friends that watch the original series.

  24. Ryouka says:

    I have very mixed feelings about this movie. While it wasn’t bad as a movie, it was strange as an Eureka 7 movie, as a movie that relates to the series.

    I thought of a phrase that could explain this movie and I came up with one: “Put all the episodes of the series in a mixer and push the button, but not too long, then you kind of have that movie.” It’s not supposed to be a joke. Really, when I think about it, I can’t think of anything else. There’s so much change in the story and especially the characters (who are the hearts of the original series) that it didn’t really feel like the Eureka 7 series I’ve already watched twice because of its epicness.

    I think when you don’t know the series and watch the movie, it can be pretty good although a bit hard to understand.
    But if you already know the series, and I think most of the watchers do, it’s just such a strange feeling you get when watching it that you can’t really tell that it’s Eureka 7.

    I’ve never watched this kind of movie, an alternative one that is (except for FMA, but that was more of a continuation). So I don’t know if there are movies which are equal to the original series. (I’ve read the e7 manga though…)
    But, well… I’m not really pleased with it BECAUSE I know, that the series has another feeling to it that can’t be exchanged in this way.
    It’s just … so strange :/

  25. I saw it in japanese before it was on AS. It’s weird hearing it in english after you’ve heard it in japanese. All in all, its pretty cool. I just wish I had time to watch it (get up early for church, etc.).

  26. Chris B says:

    Pointless movie, would have preferred a sequel, this film is a complete betrayal of the Anime casting aside any form of quality, substance and subtlety!

  27. Anonymous says:

    Haha, let me share a little story with y’all.

    So I never watched the series. Bummer, huh? Well, I watched this movie a few times, and loved it to bits. Why? Intrigue galore, mysteries solved, wonderfully open, happy ending where Eureka sacrificed her dreams (born of memories) for Renton’s. The characters were lovable (except for the crew of the Gecko, who seemed as immature as their age would betray), and the Nirvash was quite cute. The romance was adorable, no matter how “formulaic” it’s described. I was so inspired I then turned to the anime, eager to see the object of abject fan praise.

    I…could barely even get through it. The screen-time was dominated by the 3 whining bratty kids (who exactly is the target audience here?), poorly inserted humor, incompetent angsting Renton (who later experiences a ridiculously forced “growth” via laughably contrived scenes), and an ending that was so blatantly rushed (or at least stitched together with duct tape) that the series, while somewhat comprehensible, was quite a childishly pathetic flop. There were some powerful moments, granted (lady crawling to her death before the ship exploded, brat with the gun going to “shoot” our hero, etc) which merely contributed the gimmicky moments the show required to keep up a pacing reminiscent of faltering toddlers, a theme this show agonizingly attempts to cram down the proverbial throat.

    The two forms of the story are incompatible, simple as that. It’s like the movie producers themselves gave up on the original series’ “aspirations” and accordingly forgot everything in the series, leading them to re-dream its entire premise — from the characters up. That said, I’m fairly sure I would have understood and appreciated the series more if I hadn’t seen the movie first. All differences it seems I seem to consider flaws, after all.

    Hence the “bummer.”

    Quite ironic, if you ask me (nobody asked me). The few people who don’t seem to fawn over the series probably would never watch this movie anyway. Except the exceptions. Like…

    yours truly.
    XD

  28. Nick says:

    Maybe because I watched this movie directly after watching the series (marathon style), or maybe because I read a little about the movie before I watched it, but I kinda enjoyed it. I thought this was going to be a movie “based on” the anime, and I didn’t expect any tie-ins to the anime at all.

    I was surprised when I realized that this movie is entirely built off the anime to the point where it doesn’t really stand on its own. It makes some sense if you think about it as a dream of sorts (esp. since about 90% of the anime was spent reminding everyone that the land is dreaming) and it explains why the character’s motivations aren’t well developed – Everything seems to build on the 50 episodes of experience we have already watched.

  29. Yarow12 says:

    I love this movie. It’s now in my top 5. The ending song was SO beautiful that I played the last scene, including the credits more than six times in a row. ^^
    Also, the movie was in no way confusing for me. ;)

  30. hoiut says:

    I agree with the long comment here. This movie is great on its own, having not seen the series yet. That said, I still plan to. I’m worried about the whiny kids like everyone else, though. XD

    Of course I’m also worried I’ll hate the movie (or the series) after watching all the episodes… I usually agree on the ratings here, but this movie was pretty epic.

  31. Quite ironic, if you ask me (nobody asked me). The few people who don’t seem to fawn over the series probably would never watch this movie anyway. Except the exceptions. Like…

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Of those you listed, no, I dont think they get explained? I mean, SAO did, but I dont think that falls into your category.

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...So I suppose I'm the only one who's kinda bored out by a lot of the slice of life shows that's trying to be cute this season and only perked up by the Mummy anime because it's actually do what it's meant to do and be legit cute.
Lenlo
I am interested in Koi, but still have concern about the relationship itself.

@Vonter, the mummy anime would be better as short vignettes together I feel.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Koi amegari is surprisingly tasteful, subdued and pretty.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*to where
Kaiser-Eoghan
Try as I might, my love of kyoani tv anime has largely evaporated did where I no longer want to bother at this stage, I'll just wait and see. I'll just stay quiet on the franxx anime, theres little value in me trying to get through a trigger work at this point.
SuperMario
I get the exact same feeling with Takagi-san. It's pretty good on what it does but 20 minutes of the same thing for a whole season doesn't sound that promising
Vonter
The chibi mummy anime
Vonter
It's a shame it isn't a shorter 10 or 5 minute series, I think that format would make it shine more, since it does what it's trying to do.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I liked the second episode of Kokkuko or whatever the name is even more than the first one.
Amagi
I really have a problem with all these shows that rely on one single thing, joke, shenanigan or whatever. Be it something cute, some certain kind of interactiong or whatever. It doesn't matter how good it is it will bore me with episode 2.
Lenlo
Like, yeah, the mummy was cute. But the cute became rote/bland really quick. There has to be more than "cute" to be worth watching for more than a single episode to me.
Lenlo
@Niello, I was harsh because its not aimed at me. I wanted to drop it 5 minutes in, kept up for the post, then was thankful it was over. There wasnt anything overtly bad about it. Its just there was nothing good either.
AidanAK47
To be fair it's not as if we are lacking cute in this season.
In fact it's in danger of inflation.
SuperMario
@Niello: yes, the mummy is cute, the show is cute but beside that it's pretty mediocre. That show in particular is the only show that I have the damnest time to give it a potential rating.
Niello
It's not even down because of legal reasons, since the site pull down contents that are lincensed. It's down cause it's too much for the site owner to manage. Much of it also have to do with too many bots, which comes back to how a lot of other sites are relying on batoto.
Niello
@Masky: Not enough manga titles are getting translated. Batoto is the site scanlation groups basically rely on, and where other aggregation sites pull their content from. No batoto no obscure titles, a big blow to small scantation groups and one big manga/scanlator community down.
Niello
Why are you guys so harsh on the mummy show? It's so darn cute. Give it some credit. If a comedy show can be good because it does comedy well I don't see why a show ike Mummy can't be good if it can make people go "aww".
Masky
I don't really know why that is the case, maybe marketing budget and UI friendliness when done right? :P
Masky
Eh, wouldn't say it will kill manga industry. I mean, more and more official methods of reading manga online is starting to pop up and legit channels to pay to get access to manga can surprisingly enough harm free channels to get manga.
Masky
Anyway, I do find it funny how how the isekai character dies can be so meaningless that is joke in most of them
Niello
Batoto is going down, how this affect the manga reading is going to be interesting. Hope it's not slowly dying.
Masky
(at least that one, besides forgetting to introduce what the heck is gimmick besides generickness, acknowledged how most of otaku mcs shouldn't erally want to get transferred to fantasy world since they never get to see how their favourite mangas end :P )
Masky
Anyhoo, it gets annoying since its not just isekai being cliche, sometimes is just them being kind of badly written(or at least adapted to manga). Like, I found one new isekai today, but I have no idea what its gimmick is(from what I understood, its that "cute companion" that character gets is hideously op because mc didn't spefy cute girl when he asked god manager dude for cute companion)
Masky
Slime one is one of better from the more generic ones weirdly enough :P I mean I still wouldn't call it good, but at least MC character isn't god tier, just top tier and it has sort of village building simulation feel to it. Plus at least naming things giving monsters more powers is something funny regarding jrpg mechanics
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or alternatively the car was on a boat with the character or parents in it and the boat and car were hit by a falling plane lol
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its always "car accident" that sends the characters to another world or in harem cases "Lost parents due to car crash", for christs sake doesn't anyone die in out of control plane or speedboat crashes anymore, at least make it a motorbike....
Nayrael
Ah sorry, should probably not have touched the colors...
Nayrael
Trust me, Isekai is better when it doesn't try to be imaginative. When it tries to be original then... Isekai with a Smartphone... Isekai where the MC turns into a Slime... and my favorite: Isekai where the MC became a Hot Spring popular with sexy girls.
Masky
Assuming "new" things can happen under the sun
Masky
Anyhoo, I do wonder what the heck will be next "popular genre trope that will become so overused cliche that everyone groans whenever show uses it even if its actually good show"
Masky
Like, seriously you could do really interesting story variant on isekai with that if done right. Suddenly becoming characters you have roleplayed would be trippy as hell espicially if one of characters went really into detail with backstory while one of them is just "Bob the fighter, he likes fighting" and has to deal with what happens when you assume life of such a person
Masky
But I wouldn't honestly be surprised because of my anger issues related to amount of unimaginative isekai :P Though I guess trpg based one would be more imaginative in comparison
Masky
I'd assume not since I assume tabletop rpgs are much more niche than jrpgs in japan
Masky
So has anyone yet done isekai where guys getting transferred were playing trpg? :P
KTravlos
quite happy with most recent Attack of Titan manga chapter.
SuperMario
Alright, one more impression post to go before we really get on to new season
SuperMario
@Kaiser: yep, I just fixed it. Thank you
Kaiser-Eoghan
*than just the reviewers names
Kaiser-Eoghan
A slight problem with the coding there in the newest impression, showing code gobbledeegook rather than the reviewers names above their impressions.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I'm seeing it on 2nd of February.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Late screeners generally leak shortly after the uk release, so maybe early Febbruary it'll be online?
SuperMario
@Kaiser: yep, Phantom Thread. Could be Daniel Day Lewis's final performance. Is it available online already?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Did you know that Paul Thomas Anderso8n has a new film coming out? Also I found out there is a Polish semi-knockoff of purple rose of cairo.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Awesome, just got myself an invite to a secret private torrent site =)
K-Off
@Kaiser When I was in University, I was a waiter at a Korean-owned Japanese Sushi restaurant with a kitchen staff of entirely Mexicans with poor English. The owner, while he provided the rest of his staff with small meals during our lunch or dinner shifts, never game any to the kitchen staff. The guy even ranted to a customer about how "lazy" or "ignorant" they were.
K-Off
Buses are pretty common in America, even outside the major super-cities like LA, NYC, or Chicago. It's public rail you're thinking of that we don't have much of outside the cities.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I brought up the racisim/aunt story wondering if anyone had any horror stories about where they worked?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Bokusen: Buses don't seem to be a thing in America, meanwhile over here, despite traffic, public transport is much more of a thing, couldn't imagine not getting a train or bus somewhere.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi. I must say you changed my positive view of the German education system.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: And yet Austria gets the far right party in power and Israel also has a far right apartheid leader.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If any good came from it, her boss got banned from facebook .
Amagi
Two years ago the alt/new right hold a rally here since they're successful elsewhere with their anti-immigrant/PoC speeches. In the end it was 35 nazis vs 29.000 counter-demonstrators. The joke: when they had to leave with police protection they shouted "We are the people". Yes 35 hated bigots are surely the people, not the 29k. I laughed.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: That aunt story is pretty shit. I am kinda happy about smartphones nowadays, you can often make photos or record speech if you are witnessing something. Also, thank God the racists in my city are very rare since antifa and leftwingers took hold of it decades ago - now 70% of people are immigrants so racists don't even tend to show up anymore.
Nielllo
Great. I don't think most of what I wrote actually appeared in the chat.
Niello
what I'm going to do in the long run.
Niello
While Liberal art colleges are really good for developing writing and reading skills, the truth is in science classes you still don't do much of that. it's also limited by general lack of equipments that you get at bigger Uni. My college don't even have engineering.
Bokusen
@Kaiser Darn it, I hate it when racists try to justify their beliefs. That guy sounds like a major jerk!
Bokusen
@Niello Ah, yeah I think I might have preferred the UK system too if they give a month to study for exams! Wow...That sounds much nicer. Oh, and yeah, I wish the US had better public transport too... After seeing Japan's public transport system, I wish the US's could be more like it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The landlords love to kickout people through unfair prices a stick their friends in instead.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Since we're on careers, it reminds me, one of my aunts telling me what a bastard her boss was, guy was a racist, she complained about it then he got rid of all the evidence linking him to it and made it seem as if she was the rascist and humiliated her in front of her Arab friends.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think we all end up getting this huge kick in the ass moment where we learn andget it together.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It gets better thankfully, grew up and am happy with this postal clerk job.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The landlord story is a common one, they still think themselves feudal lords.
Amagi
And yeah, all this neet time. Although not moving out isn't that uncommon here anymore, considering how the rent increases, especially in my region (European bank city). And if I look at my friends it seems like they've the same problems. Even those who have found their dream jobs are otherwise living a nerdy life, going to pubs at night and so on. I think a part of us will always stay twenty.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: This "career" was exactly the same for me. I am pretty sure I wasn't even capable of thinking about my future up until, as you said, mid-twenties. There were just so many other things that interested/bothered me, school wasn't even among my top 30s or so.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Oh how I regret not getting into novels, noe my concentration is too shit to read them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually I don't think teenagers even really know who they themselves actually are .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Youth is wasted on the young.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember wasting so many chances to properly appreciate and get into certain things when I was younger too, when I actually had the time. We have no idea how to use it at that age.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The answer is down to the kid themselves wising up early and adults needing to find a way to REALLY motivate kids.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I hated being in that position, leeching off my parents/the state.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember as a teenager thinking watching films/anime/playing videogames with my friends/brother would last forever, then getting a dose of reality that everyone just moved on .
Kaiser-Eoghan
and between short contracts you spend months as a neet.
Kaiser-Eoghan
You just end up bouncing between go nowhere evening/day courses that are more about putting asses on seats than actually getting anyone anywhere.
Kaiser-Eoghan
and then you find out you dossed off so much in school you can't get to grips with university.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wouldn't recommend anyone doing what I did in my teens and early 20s, dossing off all the time, then finding out you have to wait five years to go to college as mature student, your school results are middling and not job/college useful, end up taking forever to get to the stage where you can start building up temporary job experience because no one will hire you.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Heck, as a teenager I remember pretty much living in the moment, never even thought seriously about what I wanted to do, I don't think I even thought about that my adolescence would end, pretty much rushed through my homework and never studied, stayed up all night watching anime/reading manga and playing videogames allday.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't think I actually matured/grew up until I was in my mid twenties.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My school never did a career prep class.
Kaiser-Eoghan
in the end thats how I got to where I am now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I took a different path in life to working, doing temp and voluntary work over time to buildup experience all over the place and working out what I wanted to do that way.
K-Off
@Kaiser @Amagi Besides the characters, Emma would not work if not for the sheer passion for Victorian history that you see in every single frame. Reading Emma reminded me not to avoid historical manga entirely as I'd done before.
K-Off
Probably why Community College is one of the best things to ever happen to the United States' education system, since it catches those students who need some time to figure out what they want to study. I went through three years of it before transferring to University.
K-Off
@Amagi Possibly one of the dumbest mistakes a lot of parents make. Society at large expects teens to have meaningful thoughts about the rest of their lives, when, let's be honest, most of us spent our teenage years doing anything but. Then they're somehow surprised when their children fail class after class because of their lack of motivation.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, I have seen Shion no Ou. In fact it was this site that got me to watch it years ago. I remember it being a damn good watch too.
Amagi
Due to that system most kids stay in the social class of their parents which is why you mostly have pure academic families or pure working class families. It got better the last decades though, but that separation is still there. The fact that I am a university student now is rather an exception than the rule.
Amagi
The thing is that most teens don't even have a clue about what job would interest them or be something for them. I for example come from a family in which most people don't even graduated, let alone that anybody would ever read books or so. So I knew absolutely nothing as 12yo and only ever read my first book at 15 because of a friend.
Amagi
@KTravlos: (As a German) I totally agree. The worst is that most people have to choose the route of their career as early as they become 16 or so, maybe even earlier, since we have that three part school system where you choose your school type after elementary school. One is for professionals, one is middle tier and one school (hauptschule) is for the typical working class jobs.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its the exotic factor of a lost era/age, I also tend to like the costumes .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Otoyomegatari I've not read in some time, though Kaoru Mori's attention to detail is quite strong.
Amagi
The Victorian Age is also very popular among manga fans it seems. I don't even know why I love it that much, considering that I am usually a sci-fi fan, but I somehow do. Historical things are almost always interesting though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I grew up watching old English melodramas with my parents....therefore Emma was a show that jumped out at me.
Amagi
Speaking of Emma, I should finally read the new volume of Otoyomegatari. I really love that author, Emma was awesome. She writes great characters.
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