Posted by psgels on 21 August 2009 with categories: Phantom



Oh boy, this series has been nothing but awesomeness since the start of the Tokyo Arc. Sure, it’s true that Cal’s body grew a bit too much over two years, but if you blame puberty it could have happened. It’s not really something to be overly obsessive about, because I don’t think that it really gets in the way of the rest of the series.

Even though this turns out to be the adaptation of a H-game, I was quite surprised with how honest Reiji was about Cal. In your average anime you’d guess that for some bit of extra tension the characters would just keep these secrets from each other, but then again: this series already has enough tension as it is. No need to be melodramatic at all, because the characters have reached the point where they are more than able to carry the series along. Cal busting up the rivalling gang for example, was nothing short of kickass. This does show that Scythe has some sort of strange methods of getting the best potential out of his Phantoms.

I was actually hoping for this episode to delve a bit more into the Cal vs Reiji, but it seems that the creators are still saving this for later. Instead, this episode’s end showed the next best thing: Cal vs Helen. Next episode surely is going to rock!

If the rest of the finale continues to be as good as this, Phantom is definitely going to be my favorite Bee-Train series since .Hack//Sign, and out of the shows that premiered during the past spring season, it’s pretty likely that this series is going to end up as my favourite. Sorry Shangri-La, but this series has simply gotten that good.
Rating: *** (Awesome)

26 Responses

  1. Nayrael says:

    The irony of Phantom of Inferno being a H-game is the fact that it doesn’t even feel like one. The DVD version itself doesn’t even have H scenes.

    In any case, I agree with you: this is probably the best show of Spring/Summer ’09 season.

  2. UmbrellaMan says:

    I am loving this series!!! Cal just keeps getting better. True, as people have mentioned, her design is a bit too mature for 16 ( big boobs aside), but she definitely still kicks ass.

    Is it me or does everyone in their high school wear a different uniform? Is that strange or is it just me. If you have a dress code, usually it’s all the same, and if there isn’t a code you wear street clothes. This really bothers me for some reason. I noticed it last episode. I don’t understand!!!

  3. Kanao says:

    “The irony of Phantom of Inferno being a H-game is the fact that it doesn’t even feel like one.”

    Rather than irony, that’s just ignorance on the part of those unwilling to expand their interests or at least look into other kinds of media.

    While a majority of ‘H-games’ may be exactly what they sound like, the story-driven kind should be considered entirely separate. A lot of them have the 18+ content tacked on, almost as though an afterthought. Because ‘sex sells’ is probably far more true in Japan than even the US, EU, etc.

    When 98% of a game is an excellent story and the remaining 2% something a lot of people will simply skip can you really justify saying “Even though this turns out to be the adaptation of a H-game“? That’s a very unfair and biased way of looking at it.

  4. Camario says:

    I would also have to agree with the above, on that same note.

    The story was always just as good -with or without a few minutes of pornographic content- so that fact alone speaks for itself. Once again, the All-Ages DVD version of Phantom of Inferno is what VN fans in the English-speaking world have played and there was no sense of its lacking anything important.

    I’d speculate that the h-scenes were probably added as an afterthought in the original PC version anyway, essentially for sales purposes. The story doesn’t really require any of them and even obviously sexually active characters like Claudia, for example, didn’t lose anything with their removal. Both the anime and the DVD version show that it’s possible to reflect that aspect of her personality without resorting to explicit content.

    I’d comment on 21 myself, but you should probably know the drill by now.

  5. blues says:

    i loled at the music when Cal was taking a shower
    hopefully i was wearing headphones.

  6. ATGF says:

    ow how I wish the sub could come out faster….

  7. Mentar says:

    Sheesh, 1.5 days. You guys sure are impatient.

  8. Jynx23 says:

    cal is awesome!!!!!

  9. meow says:

    I haven’t seen up to 21 yet – still way back in 19…but yea..i love both Helen and Cal. I’m kinda dreading the ending if the story follows the game.

  10. Nayrael says:

    Which ending of the game? There are 11 endings in it and the anime can end with one of those 4 (as the others happen before Reiji and Ellen run to Japan) or an anime-only ending.

  11. meow says:

    Put it this way: *PROBABLE SPOILER* I’m hoping for an ending where Reiji, Helen and Cal survive. Barring this, I’m routing for Reiji to sacrifice his life awesomely to save the other two.

  12. meow says:

    I forgot to add: Cal regains her senses too.

  13. Frost says:

    Damn it Cal is hot, she even tops Revy from Black Lagoon in badass-factor

    And I love the change in her voice, its just perfect, you can tell immediatly its her, but slightly older, more mature, more confident

    Scythe is also awesome in this episode… I love bad guys that arent your generic “OMGWTFBQQ IM GONNA DESTROY THE WORLD !!111” instead hes a mastermind, knows exactly how people think and act, its great

    All in all loving this series right now

  14. watashi says:

    The H-scenes were in the original 2001 Japanese and the 2004 Phantom Integration PC-versions. Digiturbo’s 2002 version edited these adult scenes and this was the basis for Hirameki’s release. However, the existence of orignal’s version H-scenes can be seen even playing the Hirameki’s censored version. For example there is a question whether you want to have be seduced by Claudia. The scene is just skipped and moved to the next scene.

    Because Phantom is so story driven the H-scenes are unnecessary to tell the great story. Nonetheless, if the game was marketed for adults and had a few H-scenes, I consider it to be a hentai game, whether it needed those or not, or kept those in minimal. Let’s just say for a hentai game it’s a rather great one; best hentai to anime -adaption ever made. Besides, the censored DVD-version is the best because it has the excellent voice actors’ cast.

    There is no All-Ages version. The DVD-box says it is rated for 15+ due to “animated violence and some sexual content”, like some kind of scenes abusing of Ein, though I consider that probably the most erotic scene is where Ein’s bullet is removed. These things was removed or edited from the DVD-version: “A total of ten scenes were edited for content. Two of these scenes were edited to remove nudity. Four scenes were edited to downplay sexuality. Three scenes of sexual content were completely removed. A single scene of sexual violence was also removed.” (source: http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/dvd/file/918335/48498)

  15. Hettan says:

    Ever since they introduced Cal, this show went from bland to something fantastic. Out of the possible endings of the anime, I do wish that they’ll choose the Dusty Desert Trail. I find that it seems to be the perfect choice to end this show.

  16. Camario says:

    watashi: For the record, I referred to the 15+ version as “All-Ages” for the sake of keeping things simple, since that’s how the non-ero versions of many games are commonly called regardless of any specific age restrictions.

    The essential point is that the DVD version either cuts, implies or reworks any adult content in ways that don’t interfere with the story and even possibly enhanced it by removing an unnecessary distraction.

    It’s good that you went into a lot more detail, by all means, but I wanted to clear that up.

  17. meow says:

    Hettan: *MAJOR SPOILERS* I think Dusty Desert Trail sounds cool but I wasn’t completely happy with it cos, one: not all of them made it out alive and two: the surviving two have an uncertain future; they still remain assassins on their way to a new mission where they could very well lose their lives. They were forced into their situation by forces outside of their control; it was my original hope that they could somehow escape from that darkness.

    Road of the Cerulean Sky is better for me cos the survivors definitely make it out and even go so far as to recover lost memories and discover real peace. The bad part is the loss of the third, who only finds peace in death, probably without ever resolving their misunderstanding.

    My best ending would be for all three to make it out somehow – taking down Inferno along the way. Yes, it might ruin the coolness of the story for alot of us but that’s the kind of ending I like. (Yes..i loved Macross Frontier) I guess super happy endings like this could only work in MF and Sumaga. XD

  18. X says:

    @supertauren: that’s what makes Reiji the best assassin, and even Sycthe admitted that. He was the perfect assassin, with a genuine killing intent and makes a solid, calm judgments. Of course the problem for Sycthe is that Reiji acts on his own will, and so Sycthe cant make him obey.

    Also, yes you are right, Reiji’s training did take a mere month compared to Ein who took 2 years just as Cal did. The reason I believe was that Reiji’s killing talent, skills, and potential are all part of his instincts. Like he was born with them, you could say a true killer in the utmost sense of the word.

    After all, we saw in the episode where he was to be terminated by Ein because he got indirectly involved, he was able to dodge her attacks, even countered! He even eluded her for days! Also another evidence that he is the superior assassin, was when McGuire was utterly amazed by his achievements, far more that he was with Ein.

  19. Kari says:

    This series is truly amazing. I love the characters,especially Cal. It’s the best series I’ve seen in a while.

  20. Hettan says:

    @Meow
    As a Cal fan, the Road of the Cerulean Sky simply doesn’t work for me. ^^;

    SPOILERS KEEP AWAY

    DANGER SPOILERS AHEAD

    From the way Helen was being portrayed I always see her as a tragic figure.

    In DDT, Helen and Reiji’s relationship will take the bittersweet route that is more memorable than the two of them having the more bland ‘living happily ever after scenario’ imo.

    End of spoilers.

  21. Nayrael says:

    @Hettan: Fully agree. Ellen herself in fact is a better character in that ending.

  22. windy says:

    You’re right, this episode was just awesome in every way!!! And I love Cal’s change! Her behavior and personnality are not what they used to be, she’s not the helpless little girl anymore, but a dangerous killer woman through and through, I can’t wait till she meets Reiji!!! Why does she nurture such a hatred towards him anyway? Must be because of Scythe’s manipulation of her feelings but nevertheless. It wasn’t Reiji’s fault the building exploded that day, so why…

  23. meow says:

    From Cal’s perspective, she went out to pick up some videos and came back to find the apartment a blasted shell and Reiji nowhere to be found, so for her, Reiji never came back for her – for whatever reason. I’m not sure if it even occured to her that someone had blown up the apartment or whether Reiji was in little pieces all over the place – all that was on her mind was that she was all alone again. Meanwhile she falls into the Devil’s (aka Scythe’s) hands. I bet he’s the one who planted the bomb in the first place right after she left the apartment alone and timed the explosion just as Reiji was coming back so he would wind up assuming Cal was dead and leaving without searching for her. Two years of training later, Scythe’s probably manupulated Cal’s feelings by telling her that Reiji escaped to Japan with Helen, fanning the feelings of rage and jealousy. Scythe was probably planning to set up Cal against Reiji, knowing that in spite of Reiji’s superior potential, he’d be handicapped by his feelings for Cal – just to see what would happen for his research.

    For all her new menacing Phantom demeanour though, I’d like to think the old Cal is still in there somewhere, at least from the cheerful images of her from the 2nd OP. She still has alot to settle with Reiji but while she’s trigger happy with gangsters even on her own side, I don’t think she’d casually take out civilian witnesses for example, like the old Ein. I’m glad for the lack of brainwashing here. The way she casually draped her towel over Scythe’s head also tells me she has no respect or loyalty for Scythe either, also unlike the original Ein – which is a good thing. Her warning shot was also harmless – she’s not so consumed by rage as to simply take Reiji out simply from seeing him having fun with another girl, with all she herself went through. She could have also tormented him by simply dropping Mio right before his eyes.

    Argh…dammit, I don’t want either Helen or Cal to die. :( Wouldn’t it be cool to see the first three go up against the new six and Scythe master? I kinda feel sorry for the new six though, if they’re brainwashed kids like the old Ein.

  24. meow says:

    From Cal’s perspective, she went out to pick up some videos and came back to find the apartment a blasted shell and Reiji nowhere to be found, so for her, Reiji never came back for her – for whatever reason. I’m not sure if it even occured to her that someone had blown up the apartment or whether Reiji was in little pieces all over the place – all that was on her mind was that she was all alone again. Meanwhile she falls into the Devil’s (aka Scythe’s) hands. I bet he’s the one who planted the bomb in the first place right after she left the apartment alone and timed the explosion just as Reiji was coming back so he would wind up assuming Cal was dead and leaving without searching for her. Two years of training later, Scythe’s probably manupulated Cal’s feelings by telling her that Reiji escaped to Japan with Helen, fanning the feelings of rage and jealousy. Scythe was probably planning to set up Cal against Reiji, knowing that in spite of Reiji’s superior potential, he’d be handicapped by his feelings for Cal – just to see what would happen for his research.

    For all her new menacing Phantom demeanour though, I’d like to think the old Cal is still in there somewhere, at least from the cheerful images of her from the 2nd OP. She still has alot to settle with Reiji but while she’s trigger happy with gangsters even on her own side, I don’t think she’d casually take out civilian witnesses for example, like the old Ein. I’m glad for the lack of brainwashing here. The way she casually draped her towel over Scythe’s head also tells me she has no respect or loyalty for Scythe either, also unlike the original Ein – which is a good thing. Her warning shot was also harmless – she’s not so consumed by rage as to simply take Reiji out simply from seeing him having fun with another girl, with all she herself went through.

    Argh…dammit, I don’t want either Helen or Cal to die. :( Wouldn’t it be cool to see the first three go up against the new six and Scythe master? I kinda feel sorry for the new six though, if they’re brainwashed kids like the old Ein.

  25. Nayrael says:

    @meow:
    If she didn’t love Reiji, she woudn’t hate him now either. She would either not care about him or kill him like intended rather then playing with him. She hates him so much now because she loved him too much to forgive him what he has done.

    And she saw that Reiji was not in tiny pieces as she returned to the apartment (thats one of reasons why she risked her life returning: to check if he was there when the explosion happened) and actually spent three days without even eating… just waiting for him… believing that he would come to check if she was alive or not.

  26. dalojo says:

    Shangri-la has gotten pretty damn good of late…but Phantom is better. Not so sure about the D-cups, but I’m not gonna make a whole federal case about it; I guess the animators really wanted to differentiate between elegant, austere Elen and wild-looking, curvaceous Cal.

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Theres also that russian kid who jumped off his apartment after Itachi died
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There's a post about it somewhere I think
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Also Mr anon, from what I've seen he's suffered from anime burnout and/or real life getting the better of him, so he doesn't have time for the blog (I think).
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So I'm rewatching some random show called Seven of Seven and I must say, the old-school tropes are quite refreshing to the current day ones. Like a current day romcom but old school-style (no overused tropes, less cute girls, simple characters and plot), quite a rare novelty that I'd say is worth checking out if you're bored.
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ayy, might I ask about what happened to psgels? been gone for far too long.
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Yeah I really can't see that.
AidanAK47
Naruto, for insight into major philosphical question and demi god reincarnation.
Also featuring moon ninjas.
Anonymous222624
*insight* *major philosophical questions* *??????*
Anonymous222458
I can understand that. Before the conclusion the main cast was pretty linear and repetetive character developement wise - the main focus was shounen action for the majority of the series. The conclusion showed us that these characters are reincarnates of sons of a demi god. They build up that past world with such an insight to major philosphical questions but easily understandable & relatable.
SuperMario
People might disagree with this but I like how 91 Days plays out. Low-key but satisfied ending.
AidanAK47
@Badesh, Forgive me if I am rather skeptical on that statement.
reaLjustified
Well when the series is two decades old how is it an accomplishment? There are one shots that make me feel more emotionally attached to the story.
Badesh
Hell, Naruto final arc turned out to be one of the most holistic storytelling i've encountered in a while. The character developement ties in so nicely with the whole universe. It's a great accomplishement growing a pop anime into a mature mystic saga. i highly reccomend it even for newcomers. just watch past great ninja war.
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*last two
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I'll leave it to someone else to pick the last one.
Kaiser Eoghan
Might add trouble every day by Claire Denis and Livid by Julien Maury.
Kaiser Eoghan
Thanks for that. So now its under the shadow, return of the evil dead 1, dagon, from beyond, re-animator, haute tension, nekromantik, the tunnel.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah I had forgotten, I'd meant to see Haute tension.
Kaiser Eoghan
Of those I haven't seen nekromantik or dead things.
SuperMario
That's all I can think for now. I'm sure K-off and others will have more inspiring suggestions down the line
SuperMario
For pychological edge: Haute Tension, Lake Mungo, Three... Extremes (actually the 3 shorts are all interesting), The Tunnel 2011 (underaprreciate Aussie found-footage)
SuperMario
For sick minds, Man Bites Dog, a Serbian film, Der Tolesking, Human Centipede (1&2)
SuperMario
Alright, for pure horror pleasures: Necromantik (1987), Green Inferno, Dead/Alive (my childhood's nightmare), Children Shouldn't Play woth Dead Things (more like a guity pleasure)
SuperMario
Haha scary indeed
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: The scariest thing about the haunting was that a remake of it exists that betrays the original.
SuperMario
Now, let me check my own horror list for more reccomendation
Kaiser Eoghan
Hahaha! Possession predates urotsukidouji =P in terms of the tentacle monster thing.
SuperMario
And I heard that the Haunting (1963) is good as well. Some david lynch movies (Lost Highway for example) could be claasified as horror too
SuperMario
Shame he passed away early this year. But he did say that the violent relationship in that movie was based on his own divorce.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I think Polish directed films are apparently rooted in theater. Though I believe he is a Dadaist.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Apparently Possession and diabal, all of his works are full of hidden political messages.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: That director is genuinely off-the wall insane, silver globe and l'amour braque actually make that look sane.
SuperMario
Possession the movie that Isabelle Adjani stared in? God, that movie exhausted me
Kaiser Eoghan
Innocents was so much better than its remake the others, the atmosphere was a lot lot stronger too, black and white really adds to the mood too.
Kaiser Eoghan
ha! I loved those.
This year I'm looking for silly horror movies predominently.
SuperMario
Let scare Jessica to death; the innocents 1961, Kill List, goodnight Mommy
Kaiser Eoghan
My alltime favourite horror film is Possession.
Kaiser Eoghan
No fuck it, no sequels. Currently it stands at under the shadow, return of the evil dead 1, dagon, from beyond, re-animator.
SuperMario
Too lazy to check out which horror movies that you've watched, but sure I can reccomend you some, from shitty to pure camp.
Kaiser Eoghan
Actually wait, under the shadow is out next week so that means I only need 5 more.
Kaiser Eoghan
Or maybe a 12 days is more feasible, easier. So that brings it down to six more. Guilty pleasures accepted.
K-Off
Any room for shitty horror in that list?
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I have to do a 30 days of halloween list soon. Want to limit it to horror films I haven't seen. So far I have the return of the living dead trilogy , dagon, from beyond and the re-animator.
Kaiser Eoghan
I also recently watched stranger things. I felt it did right by its 80s throw back, straight down to the references, score, costumes. Pretty cool monster too and the younger actors I thought were mostly good. Kind of slightly reminded me of the goonies to a small extent. I think it succeeded in being fairly heartfelt. Although I did find it a bit padded.
SuperMario
About the new season, I'm more interested in how these dark horse titles will turn out: Flip-flappers, ClassicalLoid, Mahou Shoujo Ikusei Keikaku, Yuri on Ice
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@Aidan: I had Stranger Things on my queue list for a while now, but don't plan to watch it anytime soon. Glad you enjoy it.
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ReZero is the only show I finished in about 2 seasons. Hopefully the Working spinoff is up to par.
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Hoping things change when the first episodes start airing of the new anime season.
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Things have gotten quiet here. I plan on getting my Mob psycho review up today. I have to say that the next season doesn't interest me very much. There's some great stuff coming next year but the fall is looking pretty...meh.
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Finally got around to watching Stranger Things. Good show, I like the nostalgic way they tell the story though at times its too Spielberg/King. I admit that I can't say I was blown away by it. It's good and I will be watching the second season. But it's a tad.. predictable. Those child actors did a great job though.
K-Off
@Bam I'm not certain the email I have is one you actually use, so here it is: (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QWnGcuVQuXfOJuh80SDgtiZH4X6Zya_XEG2ZOM6u-5k/edit?usp=sharing)
It's pathetic right now, I'm sorting out my arrangements for Seoul first.
K-Off
@Bam I'll send you the itinerary in a few hours. Appreciate the offer for guides but I'll decline on that, otherwise it wouldn't hurt to have additional contacts in japan. The person I'm traveling with is half Japanese, so I trust that we won't run into tourist traps.
SuperMario
It logged me out again. Oh well! That was me Bam
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@Bam: the first time I've ever heard of Chinchilla. Sorry to hear about your pet. Don't feel bad about the late post, it's perfectly fine. After all, we all volunteer to contribute here, so no pressure on the timing. Just write whenever you feel like it really.
Bam
Can anybody else see these?
Bam
@K-off: right on m8, I'm excited for you. Email me your itinerary and I can not only recommend some spots that aren't just basic tourist-traps, but can also hook you up with some friends to take you around and show you what the real Japan is all about.
Bam
I was planning to release the posts just as scheduled, but my Chinchilla suddenly got ill, and given the exotic nature of such pets I've been in and out of dozens of veterinary clinics. Over a week later and $600 spend, the poor thing finally gave out. I've been pretty out of since it happened, but again sorry for just disappearing.
Bam
I am actually still breathing. Sorry again for the unceremonious absence.
K-Off
@anon196168 I'm all ears for suggestions.
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If youre going to japan maybe you could do something more unique than just taking pictures of locations? Plenty of those already on Google.
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Noticing a server error showing up on the shoutbox there.
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Good point, normal users generally just stay anono. ke69Vin?...69...really....that's just sad humor right there.
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That was most definitely little Kevin as well. 9vinke6 is obviously an anagram.
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@9Vinke6, I don't know what you are trying to share but it ain't an image. Deleting your comment as I don't want dodgy files on the site.
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Are you kidding??!! Tokyo is amazing if you want excitement & you want to experience social life. But I agree go to Osaka. If tokyo is like Quebec then osaka is like toronto. More laid back
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OPM was a shoe-in. It's showing very good success on Adult Swim on US TV and Viz is throwing big dollars to keep the gravy train rolling
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One Punch Man season 2 was announced. Expected but most certainly welcome.
...now I need Re:Zero season 2.
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Honestly, if you are going to Kyoto essentially no shrine is worth visiting in Tokyo because none of them are as nice as the ones in Kyoto and they are essentially all tourist traps.
K-Off
If you guys insist I'll give Osaka serious consideration. But again I'd hate to gloss over Kyoto or Tokyo. But anyhow my 4 week stay in Seoul will be eternity compared to the Japan trip.
CJayTiii
Ikebukuro is probably used almost as much as shibuya? Specifically for durarara right around the station (east side) is used a lot. Kabuki-Cho in shinjuku is definitely used a lot but I couldn't tell you in what off the top of my head.
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Also as someone who lived in Kyoto and now lives in Tokyo, I would suggest spending as much time as possible in Kyoto as there is just so much stuff to do there. Tokyo there honestly really isn't that much stuff to do here other than going out to drink I feel. Lol also Osaka is only a 30 min train ride (about 5$ USD) from Kyoto so it's easy to go there for a couple hours
K-Off
@Mario I'll be home by new years unfortunately, I'll have to settle for Christmas in tokyo.
@CJay Thanks, any suggestions for Tokyo? I'm trying to avoid cliché locations for anime-related scenery. Like Shibuya.
CJayTiii
For Kyoto, Tatami Galaxy is probably the best anime for side by side comparisons. Kamogawa river, Kiyamachi street, and shimogamo shrine are famous areas that pretty much constantly make appearances throughout the show.
SuperMario
@K-Off: Disney Tokyo? haha If it was me I've chosen somewhere more... locally. But who I am to judge as I celebrated last New Year Eve in Times Square, the most tourist spot of them all. But I really hope you can spend some time to go to some shrines for the New Year in Tokyo.
K-Off
@Mario The person I'm travelling with wants to spend Christmas at Disney Tokyo, and unsurprisingly nearly all places will still be open, same as NYC. Christ, I'm more worried about my wallet.
SuperMario
@K-Off: Makes sense. I'd say better stick in one place for long days rather than short trips in several places. Even 10 days for those 2 places wouldn't be enough imo, well especially during Xmas since the streets will be busy and many places could be closed (I guess?)
K-Off
@Mario It doesn't seem like I'll go to Osaka, the goal is to explore Kyoto and Tokyo and much as possible for a week and a half. If I can squeeze it in there I will, but that means spending less time in Kyoto and/or Tokyo. The bulk of my trip will be in Tokyo for now.
SuperMario
Yeah, Kenshin had a whole Kyoto act, but it was more historical anw and I feel it didn't explore the city that much (more of a ruined city)
Really, only uchoten Kazoku, tatami galaxy and durarara come to mind. Are you planning to go to Osaka as well? I heard from my friend Osaka is about an hour drive from Kyoto only.
K-Off
@Anon174851 Ah good one.
@Mike Thanks. Durarara is a good suggestion, but I haven't watched Rurouni Kenshin.
Mike
@Kaiser Sure, the story doesn't do anything for me but it's not a waste of time.
@K-Off You can do pretty much anything in Tokyo I'll bet. Anime in general aside from shows like Durarara don't emphasize the setting very much... Kyoto is more interesting, rurouni kenshin is the first thing that comes to mind.
Anonymous174851
uchouten kazoku is a really good one set in kyoto!
K-Off
Haven't heard of it. Anyways, do you guys have any suggestions for favorite anime series set in Kyoto or Tokyo? I'm planning my itinerary and the idea is to take a lot of side by side comparison pictures from their anime depictions to RL. I have YuruYuri, SYD, Detective Conan, and various KyoAni spots in mind, but my brain isn't remembering others.
Kaiser Eoghan
I'm considering finding some War/military manga to read, has anyone read Gunka no balthazar? Is it worthwhile?
AidanAK47
@Anon164960, They announced a second season for it so they ain't done with that trainwreck yet.
Anonymous165129
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Anonymous164960
So Rewrite took the "Bad End" route. Interesting. Their choice, not the show of course which was a freaking mess from start to finish.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, reminding me that I have not left Ireland since 2012 when I went to Rome. Although I have floated around the idea of maybe going to Slovakia.
K-Off
@Mario Thanks, although I'll be working the whole time I'm at Seoul with sundays off. Expecting about 40-50 hours of work a week. Sucks that your trip got canned, in the Winter there's no place you'd want to be other than southern California.
SuperMario
Congrats K-Off. Hope you enjoy the trip. I myself originally planned to go to US on this December but now the plan got wrecked. Should be fun spending Xmas in Japan especially
K-Off
Got my international drivers permit from AAA today, and it also looks like I'm stuck with over half the travel fees since I've signed myself off the agency plan. It's now official, I'm going to Seoul and then spending my christmas holidays in Tokyo. Been a long time since I left the country, last time was in 2011.
SuperMario
That was me Mario
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@Masky: it wasn't, but Gui Niao did mention the pipe has multi-purpose functions: do far he uses the pipe to write, to create a hallucination smoke, to make an actual bushfire, to open the lock, now to be a sword-pipe. What's next? To be a wifi modem? to be a boomerang? to shapeshift into an umbrella?
Masky
So Thunderbolts Fantasy :D Totally called the pipe being a sword (assuming it wasn't shown earlier and I just forgot about it)
AidanAK47
@Anon146321, typos are hard to avoid when you write fast. What's really important to is that the point gets across, which it did.
Anonymous146321
Medium not meduim
Masky
I wonder if trolls consider people explaining why their trolling is bad a successful trolling .-. I mean, my experience is that most of trolls aren't really smartest or most creative of people, I think most of them are happy if people just talk about them.
AidanAK47
@Anon141285, oh come on boy. Put some effort into trolling. You need to get people to actual think you believe what you are saying. Here you have already messed up because you use the old "Chinese cartoons" which is supposed to piss of anime fans because it suggests you are ignorant of the meduim but then you reference the nukes showing full well you know where they are from. You have failed.
Anonymous141285
Chinese cartoons proof that two nukes weren't enough. Or were too much depending on the perspective
SuperMario
oh, talking about teenage horror female movie, make sure to check out Raw whenever its available online. That is one hell of a fun cannibal ride!
SuperMario
my point is we tend to spend our stupid 20s phase feel like its wasted, but really it does help develop our hobby/sense/wisdom, whatever it is.
Kaiser Eoghan
I find myself now that I've grown up wanting to punch kid characters from horror films lol
Kaiser Eoghan
About the watching stories with younger female characters...its starting to feel like I shouldn't be or that it doesn't feel appropriate, actually sort of awkward/skeevy.
SuperMario
True enough. But remember that even Quentin Tarantino had his 20s basically just a movie-clerk, watched movies like a maniac and he made that classic Pulp Fiction when he was like 33
Kaiser Eoghan
Looking back It feels dickish that I laughed reading NHK.
Kaiser Eoghan
I mean look at Re-life, I mean ow, everyone went through that.
Kaiser Eoghan
I think we'll find that stage where we'll get irritated by stories reminding us of our stupid 20s phases eventually just as some teenage focused anime/manga annoyingly remind us of being teens.
Kaiser Eoghan
In terms of anime/manga, much as I'd still see myself liking NHK I could see myself getting more frustrated with the lead character now being in my early 30s.
Kaiser Eoghan
In the past year I've been looking at hentai/ecchi imageboards not as often as I used to.
Kaiser Eoghan
Judy Delphy and Juliette Binoche have aged surprisingly well...
Ah its less fancying/finding them attractive, moreso taking notice of them.
SuperMario
I can understand the others but Meryl Streep too? Man, you're aging I can tell
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Julianne Moore, Isabelle Huppert, Meryl Sreep, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: like whom if I may ask?
SuperMario
But I'm always interested in women issues myself so Mustang just hit me hard
Kaiser Eoghan
Its a sign of me aging I guess too. I'm noticing older actresses too now where I wouldn't have in the past.
SuperMario
Looking forward to Under the Shadow too, also really keen to see how The Bad Batch would turn out to be
SuperMario
Strangely I've become more engaged with teen, coming-of-age films recently (well, Aku no Hana is sort of teen drama as well),but yes, old man's psyche is my thing too
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Synecdoche, the passenger, winter light, anomalisa , wild strawberries , la notte for example.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: The day is coming where drama centred around twentyboppers won't have the same level of effect on me. Had I seen buffalo 66 5 years ago I would have been all over it. Old man/middle age angst is becoming more my thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm honestly having a harder time getting into films that focus on young girls/teenagers.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Theres only a few upcoming films left I'm looking forward to, Elle, Valley violence, whispering star and under the shadow.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I appreciate mustang for the issue it deals with and addresses but I felt it predictable and the drama didn't hit harshly enough. It feels like an academy/oscars film.
SuperMario
Kaiser: remember I mention about watching those 96 Cannes line-ups? I think I will get to watch them soon, since I downloaded all the movies already
SuperMario
@Kaiser: btw, you hated Mustang? It's also one of my favorite film so far.
SuperMario
but maybe think of it that way will make the manga more entertaining...
SuperMario
You see Aku no Hana as a dark comedy? haha I'm speechless
Kaiser Eoghan
Like you Mario I don't care for heavy infodumping and that took me out of the new world.
Kaiser Eoghan
Bebop had that problem for me in that I saw outlaw star and trigun first.
Kaiser Eoghan
I still feel aku no hana is a guilty pleasure manga, a crazy dark comedy or maybe thats just my humour.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hataraku had me laughing up to episode 7, while Amagi felt stale from the start.
Looking back on Baccano I still like Claire and Russo but the other characters not so much, the main series is enjoyable enough but the extra episodes hold back the score.
I've never watched Habane straight through although I have finished the series. Ghost vs ergo? Ergos final episode wrecked the show.
Topgavin
I thing Hataraku was a lot more consistent, but Amagi had some standout episodes. For me the OVA, the pirate ship episode and the school episode were great. "Simply put, we have to go lewder" is one of my fav quotes
K-Off
How was that by the way? I never bothered to watch Amagi Brilliant Park all the way through because I felt so cynical about it after the first two episodes. Hataraku Mao Sama on the other hand was genuinely refreshing for the first half of the season.
SuperMario
In other news, The Eccentric Family is getting 2nd season. Now I'm filled with joy
SuperMario
Still feel bad to compare an 1-cour series (Baccano) to an 4-cours one. But in this case Baccano would take my cake.
Topgavin
I reckon The Devil is a Part Timer vs Amagi Brilliant Park would be a fun one, and I wouldn't know which would win.
AidanAK47
Baccano vs Durarara might make a good matchup. Baccano is the better one but Durarara does seem to be more popular.
Syndrome
Yeah it is a bit obvious and they dont share much in common anyway. Just that they are two of the most well known anime out there. I enjoyed NGE more than Cowboy Bebop, but I agree on the later beeing overall a better anime.
AidanAK47
Oh look. Berserks Manga is on Haitus again. Muira...just..at this point I ain't even mad. Just disappointed.
SuperMario
Well, new post on Flowers of Evil is out. Come eat it up.
SuperMario
@Syndrome: was thinking about that match-up (NGE vs Cowboy Bebop) but isn't it too obvious? I always intend to pick something that caught you guys off-guard haha
AidanAK47
@Syndrome, no contest. Cowboy Bebop wins outright.
Syndrome
On a serious note, for related anime, I would be curious about something like Ergo Proxy against Ghost in the Shell
Syndrome
Go for NGE vs Cowboy Bebop and watch the world burn
SuperMario
Yeah, I agree it's one of the main factors, but even so From the New World had a higher grade too. But I wouldn't pick Haibane Renmei against From the New World if I didn't think it had a chance to win. Those who loved the former really loved it, while people more appreciate From the New World than actually love it. Well, can't beat the consensus I guess.
Topgavin
I'd say a major reason for that would be the popularity difference. On MAL, Haibane has a following of 110k people, with FTNW having 270k.
SuperMario
I'm personally quite disappointed with the results. Will try harder for a more competitive match-up next time
AidanAK47
@Mario, if you say so. I say by now the victor has been decided.
SuperMario
@Aidan: we don't need to sticky the Versus Show again, as I will put up the Aku no Hana post tomorrow anyway
AidanAK47
Yeah the brightness got a bit much in some places after episode 18.
Topgavin
I thought the brightness was done well in the episode with Rem sitting beside Subaru's bed and her smiling/crying, but yeah this was too much
SuperMario
@anon125687: my thought exactly. While I was watching it I thought to myself that it's too bright!!
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