Posted by psgels on 10 September 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews, Aoi Hana



At the start of this year I wasn’t exactly the biggest fan of romance, but damn. 2009 has surely proved to be an excellent year for this genre. The year already started out with gems as Clannad’s After Story and Genji Monogatari, then it continued with the truly excellent Ristorante Paradiso and Cross Game, and if that wasn’t enough the Summer season only continued this trend of awesomeness with Spice and Wolf II and, of course, Aoi Hana.

At first sight, Aoi Hana may seem like your average lesbian series with lots of girls who cheesily fall in love with each other, but this series quickly proves those suspicions wrong when it subverts just about every cliché in the romance genre imaginable. FOR ONCE, romantic relationships are portrayed realistically, rather than those overly romanticized relationship you see in most average romances. For once, you see childhood friends who really behave like childhood friends, rather than the creators using the childhood friendship as a cheap plot device to get the lead couple in love with each other. For once, the two lead characters don’t end up falling in love with each other, and instead the main romance plays out between one of the lead character, and a side-character. And really: for once in a gay show we see actual straight romances. In fact, there’s only one lesbian in the entire series (Fumi, one of the lead characters). The rest is either straight or bi.

On top of that, this series is incredibly well told. there’s a huge amount of subtlety within the relationship of the most important characters in this series: the way they behave, feel and interact with each other is really done with a superb attention to detail. The series is only eleven episodes long, and yet the personality of each character can’t just be explained in one sentence. There’s absolutely nothing that’s shallow in this series.

The animation for this series also really stands out among the best in the romance genre. It’s very subtle, and portrays very accurately how all of the different characters move. But it’s especially the scenes in which people are touching each other, whether holding hands or messing with each other’s hair, in which the animation really makes those movements feel so incredibly real.

I feel hard-pressed to pick up any flaws for this series. Obviously, you don’t want to watch this series if you dislike a slow-paced series, but it really is a must-watch for any fan of the shoujo-ai genre in the way that it so realistically portrays lesbian relationships. There are a few scenes here and there that could have used a bit more build-up (like Kyouko’s fiancee, or the ending), but those moments are few and far in between. Aoi Hana really is one of my top picks of the past Summer Season.

Storytelling: 9/10
Characters: 9/10
Production-Values: 9/10
Setting: 8/10

20 Responses

  1. mei says:

    the OST itself is a real gem

  2. terrorist says:

    Such a great way to end this :S J.C. Staff did it again.

  3. omo says:

    I didn’t think the relationships were particularly realistic, nor are the yuri aspects at all similar to RL lesbian romances, nor was the whole childhood friend thing you said applies considering the implication it has for Fumi. Furthermore it’s typical of yuri anime to have very few characters that would be considered as full-blown lesbians. Usually just one. In all those regards I think Aoi Hana doesn’t break out anything unusual.

    All that said the way they do all the relationships in the show are very entertaining and touchingly cute, so it was consistently fun to watch. Even the strange friction between the four Sugimoto sisters…

  4. Chris K says:

    Yes, I loved watching this series but I have a problem with them cutting it off at 11 episodes.

    Because while watching Fumi and Akira renew their friendship, and watching Fumi mature was fine, the series left everything hanging.

    What I mean by this is that the Fumi confession to Akira is a red herring, it was cute and honest, but I know that Akira’s not a lesbian, and the obvious hookup is Akira/Kou and Fumi/some new girl who’s more self aware than Yasuko, plus I would have liked a little more back story on the secondary characters like Akira’s brother and Fumi’s friends.

  5. kaei says:

    Actually, I think the jury’s still out on where Kyouko falls on the Kinsey scale — there’s been no evidence to suggest that she’s sexually or romantically interested in Kou or any males at all (but there’s no evidence to say she’s not.) At this current point in the story I actually consider both Kyouko and Fumi to be “lesbian.” If only the story would just conveniently pair them together, huh.

    @omo: I don’t know if the relationships in this show were “realistic” in the sense that you can find such relationships — fiances like Kyouko and Kou, childhood friends rekindling a long-forgotten relationship, 2 younger sisters falling in love with an older sister’s boyfriend — in many places in real life (I personally don’t know anyone like that). For me, though, the show was definitely realistic in how it portrayed human interactions, realistic in the way that it was utterly believable, and utterly human, and “if I knew people like that in real life, I’d totally believe they’d act like that.” I bought everything that happened — no one did anything gratuitous or stupid to further a plot point (as it so happens in many soap operas), and so many of Fumi’s foibles — not being able to speak up, falling in love easily, depending on and needing human connection — are things I can relate with in my gut. Also I feel like the Sugimoto/Fumi courtship was pretty realistic, remembering what went on in my (all girls, Catholic) high-school, so maybe whether or not something feels realistic is whether or not you can conceive of it happening. Aoi Hana for me is entirely conceivable.

  6. kaei says:

    Actually, I think the jury’s still out on where Kyouko falls on the Kinsey scale — there’s been no evidence to suggest that she’s sexually or romantically interested in Kou or any males at all (but there’s no evidence to say she’s not.) At this current point in the story I actually consider both Kyouko and Fumi to be “lesbian.” If only the story would just conveniently pair them together, huh.

    @omo: I don’t know if the relationships in this show were “realistic” in the sense that you can find such relationships — fiances like Kyouko and Kou, childhood friends rekindling a long-forgotten relationship, 2 younger sisters falling in love with an older sister’s boyfriend — in many places in real life (I personally don’t know anyone like that). For me, though, the show was definitely realistic in how it portrayed human interactions, realistic in the way that it was utterly believable, and utterly human, and “if I knew people like that in real life, I’d totally believe they’d act like that.” I bought everything that happened — no one did anything gratuitous or stupid to further a plot point (as it so happens in many soap operas), and so many of Fumi’s foibles — not being able to speak up, falling in love easily, depending on and needing human connection — are things I can relate with in my gut. Also I feel like the Sugimoto/Fumi courtship was pretty realistic, remembering what went on in my (all girls, Catholic) high-school, so maybe whether or not something feels realistic is whether or not you can conceive of it happening. Aoi Hana for me is entirely conceivable.

  7. supertauren says:

    the only problem with this series is how every single school girl besides i guess ai were gushing over yasuko. it made it feel as if both those schools were full of lesbians which was a bit awkward. not that there’s anything wrong with lesbians, but having two schools only have lesbians is a bit much. besides that though everything else was pretty good. you’re right about how most of this series wasn’t really cliche.

    i wish they had more closure between fumi and her ex but that’s just me, it was still nicely done.

  8. specracer says:

    I most comment on the high quality of the both the character designs and the backgrounds, but more so the backgrounds. If you have read the manga then you know what I mean. In the manga the vast majority of the scenes have a completely blank backgrounds with the characters talking. When this came out I was really surprised at how amazing the background art was. The characters in the manga are almost as vague as the background sometimes making it hard to pick out different characters. But this anime had none of those problems. I completely agree with your score.

  9. windy says:

    As a yuri anime, personally, I prefer , by far,” Maria-sama ga miteru”, never could have finished ” Aoi hana”, even considering its short length, and the chrter – design, even if it sticks perfectly well to the original manga ( which I disliked), I don’t like it even one bit, and the storyline wasn’t really out of ordinary or entertaing for me, it often got on my nerves, but well, maybe I should finish it till the end.

  10. Denizen says:

    I’m glad this show was done well, it bodes well for a theoretical Hourou Musuko anime in the future, which I would love to see.

  11. Reltair says:

    Aoi Hana is an excellent series with its realistic portrayal of relationships. I still need to finish it sometime. Not feeling like watching it at the moment because yuri just simply doesn’t interest me.

  12. yurikitty says:

    As someone who hasn’t watched an anime in almost 30 years (wow, did I just feel ancient there!) and was only recently introduced to yuri, I must say that this was one of my favorite shows ever. The subtle, realistic way in which they portrayed Fumi’s development in dealing with and coming to terms with her sexuality was beautiful and as close to real life as I have ever seen — and I should know. The last 6 minutes of the series had me in tears, especially with that gorgeous background music driving the action; it brought back memories of a past love in a way I thought I would never see portrayed so well in a yuri format. After being introduced to yuri through the likes of Strawbery Panic and Steel Angel Kirumi 2 (I mean, really?), I was about ready to abandon the genre as prurient fanboy drivel. This series saved it for me. If this is the future of yuri, I am looking very forward to my renewed relationship with anime. I even found the words to both the opening and ending songs in the show and learned them by heart even though I don’t speak a word of Japanese. Does that make me otaku? ;-)

  13. windy says:

    I just watched it through to the end, and after a second thought, I rather liked it. I liked the review you made of this series psgels, that’s what made me really watch it. The realism of this series definitely stands out just as much as the music does( I think the background music and the opening are the 2 things I preferred here. And the final ep leaves a pleasant athmosphere to us. I still don’t think this is the best of its genre but it’s definitely worth watching!

  14. AlexS says:

    “I wasn’t exactly the biggest fan of romance”

    I noticed that you have not yet reviewed Koi Kaze, which remains for me an all time favorite of romance anime (specially considering it’s only a dozen episodes).

  15. Perrin4869 says:

    Yes, this was a very nice anime, all the episodes were entertaining, I loved the characters, and the art, from the backgrounds all the way to the character design was really good.

    My favorite romance I think would be Hanbun no Tsuki ga Noboru Sora, though I watched it when I was 17, so I’m not sure what my opinion about it would be if I watched it now…

  16. dickens says:

    It was an okay series. I can’t say I noticed much subtlety, and personally I found the series a bit melodramatic in the typical high school romance conflict kind of way. I didn’t find the characters very compelling either. The relationships don’t feel particularly meaningful, but I’m guessing that this is just the beginning of a longer story where more developments occur. It was well animated and better than an average series, but nowhere near the level (IMO) of J.C.Staff’s best work, “Honey and Clover”.

  17. aldrich says:

    I think Aoi Hana is got to be the first to break the “built-in-story” of every yuri anime. You know what, you’re right about one thing, the story didn’t revolve around Fumi and Akira, but you were wrong about one thing. At the ending, Fumi realizes that her first love is Akira, right? If that is so, who do u think is Fumi’s next “target”? That’s right. What I’m trying to say, is that the lead characters ended up with each other… its just that the series was “cut”/”finished” in ep 11. I demand for an Aoi Hana 2! lol.

  18. yuri-boy says:

    The animation and plot is almost realistic. Thumbs up. Sweet Blue Flowers is a very interesting yuri anime for me. It made me wonder why no lesbian couple ended up together. Yasuko could have ended up with Youko, or even with Fumi, but what happened was, Yasuko moved away, Youko ends up spending Christmas eve with Kou, and Fumi, possibly falling in love with some other girl better than Yasuko. Until this idea came to me.
    WHAT IF, we thought in the first place that the plot of Aoi Hana is different from that of the other Yuri animes and… WE were wrong?
    As a yuri anime lover, I have seen patterns from all the yuri anime’s I’ve watched. And judging by the intro of the anime when I first watched it, I predicted that the two childhood friends would eventually fall in love with each other and live happily ever after just like most of us would expect… But no. Instead, the story revolved around a main character and a side-character. It was shocking actually and made me think it’s unique, yes… unique at first. Until I finished the series.
    Ever wonder why Yasuko and Fumi didn’t end up together? I think it’s because Yasuko and Fumi’s relationship is a cover… A cover for Akira and Fumi getting closer and eventually falling in love with each other. It was somehow a story that would make Fumi end up with her first love, A-chan… That Fumi’s experience and lesbian relationship with Yasuko was something that would make her REALIZE who she really loves.
    SO, basically, for me, the main characters ended up together. It’s just like all the other yuri animes and just like how it should be. It’s just that the anime had a different approach, and used a side character. It’s a different approach, but the same happy ending. Fumi-chan realizes her love for A-chan. Akira’s mind is too simple(she said it herself.) but once she matures, she would realize why she was always there for Fumi. =)
    Overall, I think the plot is great and I totally agree with your rating. AND…
    Aoi Hana have taught us something… Something that we must keep in mind.
    “Sometimes, the person you truly love… Is the person who stood by you and held your hand your whole life.”

  19. tsotha says:

    It was well animated and better than an average series, but nowhere near the level (IMO) of J.C.Staff’s best work, “Honey and Clover”.

    Am I the only one who didn’t like Honey and Clover? I couldn’t even sustain enough interest to finish it, something that’s very rare for me. Aoi Hana seemed much better.

  20. Firechick says:

    I’m glad I watched Aoi Hana. This is the very first shojo-ai/yuri (but more shojo-ai than yuri) I ever watched, and I was so surprised with how GREAT this show turned out! Definitely in my top 10 anime of 2009! I loved how subtle and beautiful this anime was! I might shamelessly recommend this to friends if I have to!

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SuperMario
On that note, apart from the 3 shows I'n currently covering (Eccentric Family, Tsuki ga Kirei and ID-0), I will give a full review on Grimoire of Zero, a show that I feel rather difficult to pinpoint exactly on its quality.
SuperMario
Can't believe we approaching the final week of this current season. Gonna be a busy week of blogging with the usual weekly posts plus the final impressions.
SuperMario
@Anon1206174: I agree with you on both counts. And Sakura Quest has never been bad, but it could have been deeper and less messy. If you plan to watch ID-0 (I suggest you do), don't get your expectation too high because it works much better when you expect nothing of it. Like each episode I was genuinely surprised how good ID-0 actually is.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember one of Aidan's visual novel posts where he said theres potentially hundreds of VNs un-translated and LNs too, makes me wonder just how much un-translated manga we are missing out on.
Anonymous1206174
The ID-o posts sound pretty interesting, I am really thinking of dropping Sakura and watching this instead. Really loved the beginnign of Sakura and that abandoned town atmosphere it had, but I am not feeling it anymore. The recent episode about Shiori was great again though..
Kaiser-Eoghan
*looking
Then again he's an extremely forgetable person.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh Godammit, looing back over my comments I meant to say Souta not Setsuna, I suck at remembering non-English names.
Anonymous1205999
Meh - I really like this season but I already have my first cases of 'good-show-disappointing-ending/second half'
Anonymous1206022
KT Here:RE:Creators , we need to know more about the rules for Altair to see if that works. It might, and it might not. With what they know they have a good plan. But I was thinking why not just do a Super Smash Bros type game with the characters? I am sure that would generate enough stuff in order to lock her.
SuperMario
On Re:Creators, I find a better solution instead of going all cross-media like the show suggests. Someone could just make some fan-fiction on Altair that purposely show her weakness (like get busted when expose to the sun, or the magic word that render her skills useless). Less efforts, more effective
SuperMario
Man, I agree wholeheartedly with what KT said here: mass media actually sells, so it keeps the industry to a more stable position; then the art-house/more adult oriented anime can have some freedom to do what they like.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its more that I have to read it all at the same time as expecting action to come , it might change my mind if I watched it in English.
Anonymous1205580
KT here: I accept the mass media because it raises the funds for the less mainstream stuff I like. That is how I make my peace.

On RE:Creators. I get what you guys say. But for some reason I do not find the exposition heavy in this series. Every person has his own limit I guess
Alonaria
@Kaiser: Yep, that sounds about right, lol. I take my Sheldon in concentrated doses. I might give the Young Sheldon spin off an episode or two because it's highly exaggerated but still somewhat relatable to me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel big bang theory is a show for people who know nothing about nerds/nerd culture to find funny.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And then theres this thing about Sheldon being some kind of autism spectrum thing , which is kind of annoying to hear when I am on the spectrum myself and never really found the character all that amusing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Probably not the strongest reason to go off a show but, it was people around me going on and on about big bang theory that eventually put me off it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
lol is it any surprise Miura and the hunter x hunter guy take so many breaks =P
Alonaria
*Sheldon
Alonaria
I pick and choose Big Bang episodes that I enjoy. Shelden in the ball pit never ceases to amuse me. Still, it's definitely overrated haha.
Lenlo
IT Crowd > Modern Big Bang. Early Big Bang was good.

And yes, the work conditions in the Manga Industry are terrible. Oda, One Piece Mangaka, works stupid hours. He requests his assistances be "Willing to die for One Piece" because of the amount of work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And hell yeah"! someone else thats hates on big bang theory.
IT crowd > big bang.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more safer
Kaiser-Eoghan
And yet now here I am at same time, I think it might be kind of a shame that I can't see the value and fun anymore in some less safer offerings.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I thinking I might go insane if I looked up comments defending the visuals in occultic; nine.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hate to say it but sometimes opinions, mainstream ones are actually wrong. Its a fact that superhero films have bad action scenes and cinematography and Hardboiled, a chinese action film is better filmed in terms of choreography.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As dickish as this is to say, I really do recoil when ssomeone says something like the Notebook or fifty shades is the best film of all time/their favourite.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See theres also factoring in the people whos favourite film or anime of all is the most recent they finished.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember mentioning recently that I was re-watching the twilight zone, the response I got was "I thought that you were talking about twilight"
Kaiser-Eoghan
See thats whats so great about being able to talk about more niche stuff online, theres an easier to find common ground.
AidanAK47
In general when it comes to mass popular opinion it's the tried and true safe stuff that ends up selling. The highest selling Mario games are the New Super Mario ones. The same generic Light novel and harems keep selling. There are plenty of examples but majority opinion tends to gravitate to the safe and familiar.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See, most (offline) people (and or teenagers)who aren't really all that interested in film or don't look into it that much will turn out for things like fifty shades, transformers or twilight, thats why those are popular. Most people aren't going to watch something made more than a few years ago or subtitled.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh...lol fuck thats a blunder...yes I meant Re:creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But by all means, people are fully entitled to like what they like. But there is a reason why so much rubbish gets popular.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Re:Creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As someone who would actually consider themselves creative and interested in things being imaginative I really do hate the whole anti-creativity /anti-art, anti-intelligence movement and way of thinking that allows un-deservedly popular things like what Aidan mentioned to fester.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yes Re:zero's poor pacing and leaden dialogue is becoming too dominant and there should be more action, its good Setsuna opened up, but I still don't particularly like him.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine the magazines/editors probably consider themselves the writers sometimes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pretty sure I only read nisekoi because I was keeping up with conversations about it, then dropped it before the Chitoge doublie showed up, just stopped reading.
AidanAK47
On the matter of Re:Creators, I feel the same as the Anon said. I find the exposition to just drone on far too much.
AidanAK47
On the matter of the manga industry being shit...it is. Manga in general is great but Jesus Christ the industry is a mess. Work conditions are utterly abhorrent and it's even worse that most series live or die based on a magazine popularity poll.
Because just because something is popular, does not mean it is quality. Example: Transformers, Twilight, Fifty shades, Sword Art Online, Big Bang theory
AidanAK47
@Anon, Still not getting your logic here. I mean if I have a problem with it after trying it then why am I not allowed to complain about it? Anyway it is only popular for the pandering. Even those who like Nisekoi admit that it's a mediocre harem and they mainly enjoy the waifu wars on the internet.
SuperMario
and now we will resort to illegal streaming sites for this one. "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem", this f*cking true
SuperMario
Huh? Welcome to the Ballroom Anime Gets Amazon Prime-Only Streaming Inside and Outside Japan. Now that just unbearable
SuperMario
Don't know about this new Re:Creators episode since I haven't watched it, but I don't really mind Meteora. Her dialogues scream "exposition" but she still fits well to the story. The fights are good, I agree, but why didn't they go all the way with the world's collapse last episode?
Anonymous1202407
Whether Nisekoi is pandering or not, it is not enough proof for you to suggest that manga industry is shit. If u want good mainstream then its not that hard to find. Also for every success like Nisekoi which u claim to be pandering, there are dozen like it that failed to be popular. Why? Because it clearly is popular for a reason other than just simple pandering.
SuperMario
Ha, Ping Pong. I need that kind of show again in my life.
Lenlo
Also, Ping Pong is amazing.
Lenlo
Theres a difference between pandering to a large audience, and an anime/manga with a quality story that everyone ends up liking. Ive always found moe shows and things like Nisekoi to be the former.
Anonymous1202407
If you have a problem with it after trying it just dont read it. Its that simple. Also what a surprise that a show like nisekoi that appeals to a large demographic is popular. U want the mangaka to apologize it's not some art house story like Ping Pong?
Lenlo
Meteora is pretty hit or miss with her dialogue imo. Sometimes its great, othertimes its not. I can say though I enjoy most of the fights.
Anonymous1202113
I really want to like Re:Creators. To be honest though, I'm getting tired of the dialogue. It has its high points, but it sometimes just seems to drone on and on, especially with all of Meteora's "hypotheses."
KT
Both Bahamut and RE:Creators had great episodes. But I was indeed mentally screaming Super Smash Bros at RE:Creators. You will get the point when you watch the episode.
AidanAK47
Taken on it's own, Nisekoi is harmless. But it is undeniably proof that you need not be creative or innovative to succeed in the industry. In fact declaring creative bankruptcy could turn more fruitful than genuine effort.
AidanAK47
And I said how can you decide you don't like something if you haven't read it?
Of course you are likely mean that if you don't like something then give up on reading it further which of course does not mean that someone cannot complain about it regardless.
Anonymous1198985
No, Im said if you dont like nisekoi dont read it
AidanAK47
@Anon, How do you know you don't like it if you don't read it?
Anonymous1196967
Don't like it don't read it.
AidanAK47
I went and read Double Arts. This really was a great manga with tons of potentail and truly didn't deserve the axe. It's so depressing that this was cut off so soon and the author went on to make the most generic Harem ever Nisekoi, and that got over 200 chapters.
Lenlo
All of the important dance scenes for Yuri were fantastic, its just some minor one off characters and some reused ones that were an issue, so no they are better than the CGI
Anonymous1190387
Is it worse than those CGI dance scenes in some anime?
AidanAK47
@Puran, It is pretty surprising how well that story turns out. I say IG might do the job even if there animation isn't the most consistent. The one thing I am worried about is those necks though. In the PV those things were ridiculously long.
Puran
Fair enough, recycling the animation was bad, agreed. But the animation itself was really good.
Lenlo
See, I found the repeated dances in Yuri one of the worse parts. Alot of it was recycled animation and certain characters were obviously rushed/not done. Some were amazing, cause they took their time, but others looked terrible.
Puran
I kinda wish Mappa was doing the anime though. Yuri on Ice had really nicely animated dances (and was more or less the only actually good quality of that show :P )
Puran
Reading the Ballroom e Youkoso manga has made me really excited about the Anime.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Aidan: I'm particularly turned off by bully/bullying cliches these days. I've only read the first two volumes to see how awful she was but I ended up simply losing track of the series and stopped reading.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Mario: Actually that has changed, I had to pick a different day to see it given changes in schedule, I've booked it for NEXT Wednesday now. I've watched Akira about four times.
AidanAK47
Oh, Rising of the Shield Hero is getting an anime adaption. Hmmm...honestly after finishing the series and looking over it as a whole I am not sure I even want that. Plus seeing Bitch Animated...would fill me with rage.
SuperMario
I intend to re-watch Akira soon, probably this weekend. It has been almost 10 years since my first watch and now I don't remember much about that one. Thought it was intriguing and complex but not as acclaimed as people hyped it to be (I'll pick Ghost in the Shell anytime). Wonder how I'd feel now after re-watching it.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I remember you mentioned that you were going to watch In this Corner of the World today right? How was the movie Kaiser?
Lenlo
Oh cool, food wars is getting a 3rd season
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ballroom youkoso appears to be leading the polls.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Fumiko is a female mangaka yes. Also I found bokura no hentai worth reading.
SuperMario
yep, I finished that manga too and I have conflicted feeling about it. Yuri(!) part and fanservice are to blatant but they have a purpose. This mangaka (not sure but I think she's a girl) has some unique voice.
AidanAK47
....well I skimmed that manga. And it was weird
SuperMario
By all appearances,Sakura is normal,albeit sheltered junior high school girl who enjoy talking about love and walking home from school together.However,they also happen to inhabit a strange and supernatural world populated by mysterious,gigantic beings and unusual plant and animal life.Amid their peaceful lives,Sakura becomes very interested in something only alluded to exist in old books: dicks
SuperMario
Here's a synopsis of other manga from the same author, I think you'll have a better idea of his theme -
Sakura no Sono
AidanAK47
Pretty much what Masky said. I am not really praising it. Anyway I plan to read one or two more chapters to see where it's going. But if it's going in the direction I think it's going then I am dropping this one fast.
Kaiser_Eoghan
There is of course the underlying concern that it will go a very ugly route with that development or it could become edgy/horribly minipulative, but for now it is as mario said, a hook.
SuperMario
Well. overall I don't dislike what I read there. It has good hook and I'm intrigued to know more what the hell will happen. Good set-up for me. I'm in
SuperMario
@Masky: it's fine Masky, since I will chec itk out any way and see it for myself ^^
Masky
So since you guys started being interested, I checked it out and uh.. Yeah, not reading. I think ye guys misunderstood Aidans warnings since that was just fucked up and not in the interesting way.
Lenlo
@Aidan: Berserk will never again go more than 3-4 months without a hiatus.
SuperMario
Hmmm, that manga Cutie Mutie sounds good to me. I might check it out later today
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: But had you not alluded to that scene, I may have seen the cover of that manga and skipped over it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I had a feeling, sort of, sad, I am intrigued to read more.
AidanAK47
Hyping and warning are not the same thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well with Aidan hyping up the horrors of cutie mutie I may as well glance at it to see what he' on about.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There are three manga with the name rec.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am familiar with the artist for cutie mutie, she did that manga about the three kids dealing with gender/orientation issues.
AidanAK47
Oh look Berserk is on Haitus again....
.....the sad thing is that it comes as expected now.
AidanAK47
For reference the two I read were Cutie Mutie and Rec. Be warned, the first one goes to a rather uncomfortable level.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Read two manga. One started lighthearted and then went to really dark territory. The other one looks like it's about a really dark subject but turned out to be something more lighthearted.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Alright. Tested it now so it such be fixed. Try again.
Masky
@Aidan: Huh? What you read that turned dark/didn't turn dark? .-.
SuperMario
"too many answers selected for question 1! only 3 answers allowed!"
SuperMario
@Aidan: I still have the same issues. Weird
AidanAK47
@Mario, Wasn't my intent. Try it now and you should be able to pick as many as you want.
SuperMario
@Aidan: I'm not allowed to vote more than 3 votes. Is it your intention Aidan?
AidanAK47
Well that was weird. I read something that looked innocent but turned out to be really dark. Then something that looked really dark only to become innocent.
Masky
Yeah, nothing that interests me I see :D Like my strongest reaction to season preview was "Someone made isekai with smartphone? Really? REALLY? Thats best idea you had"
Masky
Ah Knighs and Magic, found that manga. It was boring enough for me to forget its name. Also besides being boring, I kinda find MC unlikeable since their only personality is that they like mechas and were a programmer before renicarnating as short bishie kid
Masky
Woo, time to vote stuff
SuperMario
@Kaiser: that movie In this Corner just getting more and more acclaimed huh? Thou I think it'a a type of movie that if you have high expectation for it you will likely be disappointed. It works best as a sleeper hit
SuperMario
As for cute monster girls, most of the time I don't find them cute at all. I know I'm being racist, but...
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm guilty with that cute girls genre, as i enjoyed K-On tremedously for example. Or If I have more time I'd follow Hinako Note this season ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
They don't always adapt all that well or work as well outside of manga format, especially 4-komas.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*three
Kaiser-Eoghan
The only two of any interest were hidamari sketch, azumanga daioh and yuru yuri and that was largely down to being in the mood for them a few years ago.
Lenlo
@Mario: Personally, I have 0 interest in this Monster girls doing cute things subgenre, just like I have very little interest in the cute girls doing cute things major genre.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As it turns out I DID read in this corner of the world. I'll also be seeing it next thursday.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: at this moment I'm very skeptical with the whole Monster girls doing cute girl subgenre, so I'm approachig Centaur with a caution. Of course, it all depends on how I feel after the first episode
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Happy End isn't as bleak aa his other works. But it's certainly Hanake's films, as it explores many of his favorite themes: the voyeurist of camera in his Benny's video, the detachment to the world and the underlying violence. Not his best thou but it's still very good
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I'd be up for watching jigoku shojo, its been a long time since I watched the original two seasons and this one won't be as long, so it won't get as repetitive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I voted centaur no nanami on the poll, think Mario could cover it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: How did did you get on with Happy end? I heard its like a mix of his best works. Is it as dark and depressing?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have vague memories of in the corner of the worlds manga, unless I'm mixing it up with something else.
SuperMario
Some news, Lu Over the Wall won the best prize at this year's Annecy (the 1st anime won the award since 1995's Pom Poko), with In the Corner of the World took the Jury Prize. Quite a good showing for anime this year.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Hello.
SuperMario
Really, still no vote for Kakegurui?? I thought it would take the top poll for sure
SuperMario
That 18if, even the poster doesn't make much sense, but it looks dazzling ^^
Lenlo
go-go licensed products!
SuperMario
@Lenlo: and Madhouse is the studio behind that Marvel rip-off. Are they really going that low for profits?
Lenlo
Lookin forward to Kakeguri next season, but thats the only thing thats really caught my eye
Lenlo
Well, you have to watch Marvel next season right?
AidanAK47
And done. I swear these previews take a lot out of me.
AidanAK47
Almost done....almost done...
KT
Attack of Titan, ended ok. But man the production values had gone down.

Virgin Soul had a okish episde

Re:Creators continues to rock for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I liked the 70s version ending, it was mean spirited =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The original used its one room location quite well and dim lighting in parts, very closed in/claustrophobic.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: just finished the Beguiled and it was much better than I expected. Like, I didn't expect it to be that well shot. The guy was put in a passive role than active here, which help the theme imo. Also, the ending admitedly isn't for everyone but I liked it just fine
SuperMario
@Kaiser: using a black girl? The girls in this one are all white :(
AidanAK47
Sato in Re:Creators isn't doing himself any favors is he? Honestly the more I learn about him, the less likable he becomes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It was a good film though, one of scarjos better moments.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As for Sofia, I'm only familiar with lost in translation, which I haven't seen since it originally came out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Everyone goes on about Francis' for the Godfather, the conversation is massively underated and apocalypse now is better, but it has to be the theatrical cut.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I guess it was probably seen as progressive in its day by way of using the black girl.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Very very cynically 70s of course.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Actually just happened to finish it there, I felt it stood out for its somewhat successful gothic feel and aesthetic and Eastwood's performance which shows how well he can command the audiences attention even when he isn't shooting people. Kind of liked how it got slightly grisly later on. It makes a small effort in giving one line backstories .
SuperMario
@Kaiser: the original movie isn't that well-received. It's more like an exotica film where the main guy (Clint Eastwood) hooks up girls of all ages. This one I heard has a good spin on feminist angle. I'm sure is intrigued but Sofia Coppola's filmography has been mixed for me
Kaiser-Eoghan
....I doubt any one has ever heard of this....I know I didn't, I haven't read it either but I came across some weird old Blacksploitation manga, probably from the 90s, Blast knuckle or something...
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Still remaking the beguiled might be good, we need more modern westerns.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I suppose I can busy myself with the original 70s version of beguiled. At the moment I've been focusing on old Japanese films, they had such a good film industry, it makes it hurt so much more now knowing that all they do now is shit live action adaptations.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: gonna be a long day for me with the screenings of The Beguiled, Wind River, The Other Side of Hope and Happy End
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now I need to re-watch 08th ms team.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I watched 4 hours straight of Gundam the origin, hit me with a hard punch of nostalgia, actually seeing his backstory rather than hearing about it is a good thing, I enjoyed the action scenes, it was high-melodrama but well used and more Char is always a good thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I'll just put Kado on hold for now and see whats being said about future episodes of it, I'm too unsure of it being worth it or not at the moment.
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