Posted by psgels on 21 September 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews



Here’s another Clamp-adaptation, the anime with one of the least descriptive titles in existence: X. It tells the story of a bunch of people who have been destined to fight over whether or not the earth is going to be destroyed. And I must say, it hits the mark surprisingly often. Recommended for anyone who likes a good character-study.

There are very few series that can claim that they only get better and better as they go on, but X sure as hell does come close to this. It starts out a bit mundane, but for nearly every successive episode as you get an idea of the plot, and the different characters show their backgrounds and stories, it just gets more intriguing with episode. Especially in the second half, where all hell breaks loose, this series just continues to keep the balls in the air.

What impressed me the most about this series was the maturity of the cast of villains. These guys are miles away from your stereotypical evil overlords, and despite the fact that they’re trying to destroy the world, they’re all surprisingly calm and down to earth which is very refreshing to be honest. The protagonists also receive plenty of attention, which allows each of them to grow beyond stereotypes, and actually develop a bit. A major theme in this series is loneliness, and I really liked how each of them chose to deal with their feelings in a different way.

With all that however, it’s a shame that the least interesting character in this series is the main one: Kamui. With such a colourful cast of side-characters, he fails to stand out and is yet another one of those angsty teenagers with huge powers with the task to save the world. He does develop throughout the series, but it’s all just too predictable and shallow. It’s because of him that the finale of this series turns out to be really cheesy. A pitiful exception to how everything in this series just gets better and better.

Overall, X is a bit too angsty for my tastes. Too often, we see characters stare pointlessly into nothingness instead of actually doing something, and the lackluster lead character and ending prevent it from really standing out, but aside from that there’s a lot to like in this series. It’s an interesting effect you get when half of the series’ plot twists have already been prophesized (especially if you watched the special episode 00, which is basically a very cryptic recap of the series). With a strong soundtrack and very solid animation by Madhouse, I definitely don’t regret watching this.

Storytelling: 9/10
Characters: 8/10
Production-Values: 8/10
Setting: 8/10

19 Responses

  1. Brett says:

    I watched the movie, and since it was so short the plot and characters seemed rushed. It didn’t help that I was lost through the entire movie. I guess it would have helped to have seen the series first.

    Regardless, good review. It was so expensive to buy this a few years back, if I ever see it down in price I will definitely pick it up.

  2. Pax says:

    definitely agree that it’s a bit too angsty at times,but overall it was definitely worth the time even f i did not like the ending but considering how the manga was not finished i kinda expected the ending to be quite bad.

    now that Tsubasa Chronicles is suppose to end,i do hope that we will get to see the end of this manga .

  3. Etrangere says:

    Hehe, I’m a pretty big fan of CLAMP in general, and the X & Tokyo Babylon continuity in particular. The TV series is a decent adaptation, with an especially brilliant soundtrack, although I still like the manga better, and it’s also much better to read Tokyo Babylon before. Of course it is pretty much all about the angst, eros/thanatos and gore but I dig those XDDD. I agree that Kamui is one of the weaker character.

  4. juu says:

    I read the manga first(and loved it) But afterwards I really couldn’t stand the anime^^°
    but that’s how it usually goes with me and manga adaptions^^°
    I totally agree on the “villains” in this one. They were really interesting characters.
    So I’m glad you liked the story.
    I only wish the manga had an ending now…

  5. Keith says:

    Oh man, I have been waiting for this review ever since I started reading your blog 2 years ago. This was the first anime that truly got me into anime, so I consider it my favorite just because of the impact it had on me. I remember I bought it on a whim and marathoned the first 12 episodes because that’s all that had been released so far (didn’t know about torrenting yet). So when it ended on that cliffhanger on 12, what was a mediocre show suddenly became shocking and intense, and not many shows have been able to live up to that “turning point”.

    I agree with the above comments that the manga is better. It definitely is. I takes the theme of the tv show and then pumps it up a notch. And as much as I enjoy (somewhat) Tsubasa and xxxholic, if CLAMP doesn’t finish the manga when they’re both done I am going to be a sad sad boy.

  6. Keith says:

    Oh, psgels, Why didn’t you like the ending? Because considering the way the show’s built it can only really end a couple other ways.

  7. psgels psgels says:

    Keith: I haven’t read the manga, so I don’t know how they handled it there (if it actually handled it at all), but like you said, it was the only way for the show to end properly, but it also came as a deus ex machina, it was badly explained and way too hasty. I could hardly take it seriously. It would have been a nice ending if the creators would have gotten an extra episode to give it a bit more time.

  8. Anca says:

    This, along with Escaflowne, are the two series that seriously got me into anime; unlike Escaflowne (which does still rank as number one for me), I’m still a big fan of X. It’s one of the shows that the more you think about it, the deeper it gets.

    For example, did you notice the parallels in the cast? Kamui and Fuuma and Subaru and Seishiro are very obvious, but you also have the other characters that are ‘ranked’ the same – take Karen and Yuuto, fire and water; but are the most sexual characters of the cast. Or Satsuki and Yuzuriha, the character who is least concerned about humans and the character who is most.

    Of course, the manga is better (like in pretty much everything else); it diverges near the end and Subaru receives a bigger role, taking Seishiro’s place, in the sense that they used him to characterise Dark Kamui instead of Seishirou (and in the manga they’ve been hinting that Fuuma hasn’t lost all of his personality).

    Kamui is what Subaru was at the end of Tokyo Babylon, but CLAMP left it unfinished exactly when I believe he was going to snap out of it.

    CLAMP said the major theme was individuality over group think in a setting where the later would have been a more natural message. The villains are all people who don’t care whether they live or die.

    – I’m rambling, but X has this effect on me >_>;;

    Thanks for the review.

  9. Etrangere says:

    The villains are all people who don’t care whether they live or die.
    I think this, to me, is the principal theme of X. The struggle between the parts of ourselves that want to die, and the parts of ourselves that want to live on. At the core it’s a story about how we want to live because we have ties to other people (stop me before i start quoting BtVS), so that’s why the Kekkai only exist as long as the Shi no Ryu have a special person they care about. That’s also why it’s wrong to kill people, because that makes the people who care for them sad. Kamui has both asect of this in himself from the beginning. A big part of him doesn’t care if he lives or dies, if the worlds end or not… and a part of him does want to fight on and keeps the world alive for the people he cares for. When he makes his choice, it’s Fuuma who ends up embodying his death wish (and his masochistic wishes, which is why he tortures him as much ^^)
    But in X, way too many people think it’s worth dying in order to save, help or protect the people they love. Which, well, ends up being pretty silly and self destructive as well. The manga having no end, we’ll never know how far it goes with that :(
    but the anime ending is pretty good with what they have, even if I wish there were other subtleties they’d had kept.

  10. Anca says:

    Etrangere:

    Yes, it’s very possible that Kamui’s true wish is ‘to live’ – it /would/ be something only D. Kamui could fulfill (who else would kill him?). It’d make for a nice, entirely non-homoerotic ending scene too.

    The only problem with what I said earlier is Subaru – he had the mother of all death wishes of the cast. It only starts making sense if you look at his TB personality, but even then: back then he hadn’t ‘awakened’ as a Seal. The only reason he didn’t commit suicide at Seishiro’s hand (because we know that was his intention ever since Hokuto died) was because Seishiro had one up on him with his own death wish: he knew what Hokuto did.

    But even if he knew about the spell, I honestly doubt he’d have had it in him to stab Seishiro – it’s *Subaru* we’re talking about, probably the kindest member of the cast, along with Yuzuriha. (Even Seishiro, who knew him best, fully expected to be hated, fully expected him to wish to kill him).

    After Rainbow Bridge, he’s a walking corpse; in the manga he gets some measure of closure with a nice heart to heart with Dark Kamui, after which he will probably proceed to become Sakurazuka Subaru, as per the succession ritual and his loved one’s wish (I can’t remember that clearly what happened at this point, after their conversation) – and at this point he stopped being a Seal. In the anime he disappears, and I honestly thought back when I first watched it that he jumped off a bridge.

    Still, he didn’t fit the Seal mold even before he changed sides; unless ‘wanting to live to be killed by THAT person’ qualifies as ‘wanting to live’, in which case Seishiro would not qualify as an Angel.

  11. Keith says:

    Yeah, the subtleties in the manga were what brings it a step above the anime. The anime was good and all, but it really only kept the most obvious message, which was that our ties to others is what makes up want to live on.

    They had to leave the deeper parts of the manga out because it would have actually made the ending of the anime betray those themes. The biggest message of the manga is that self-sacrifice is a terrible thing to do, because it only hurts the ones who care about you. There’s no way to make everyone happy, but sacrificing yourself really doesn’t help it.

    psgels, the manga has been on hiatus for over 6 years now, and it ended at the biggest cliffhanger in the story yet, so it has been the most torturous hiatus in anime history, especially considering how popular the manga is in Japan. Apparently, in 2003 there was a devastating earthquake in japan and since the end of the world is depicted by earthquakes, CLAMP was given the choice of toning the manga down or putting it on a hold. They chose the latter (thankfully).

    The biggest difference between the anime and the manga though is that, as said previously, Fuma is not actually a cold-blooded killer with a new personality. He is actually the same Fuma as always, but has to cope with his newly assigned role. He’s probably my favorite antagonist of all time because of this internal conflict he has.

  12. Anca says:

    Fuma is not actually a cold-blooded killer with a new personality.

    This was revealed after the anime was produced (I think); for the most part, we assumed that Fuuma’s personality had been rewritten by SADAME in the manga too. Dark Kamui mode Fuuma acted a lot more gay and sadistic than normal Fuuma before the Choice too. How Fuuma if he still has a conscience could be such a fucking ass if still one of the biggest unresolved mysteries yet (for me).

  13. Keith says:

    Anca, my theory in this is that when the choice was made, Fuuma was probably overwhelmed by his awakening. Also, “event” that happened once Kamui made his choice was fated to happen.

    Another thing to point out is the fact that Fuuma is compelled to grant people’s wishes. Even if he doesn’t like it, he has to fulfill someone’s true desire, and if they desire is death then he doesn’t have a choice. He can still have a conscious because he is still the same Fuuma, but just because he is still the same doesn’t mean he can control his own actions. It’s the same way for a lot of the characters, the dreamseers especially. Like Fuuma, they can only sit back while other forces decide what will and will not happen.

  14. Etrangere says:

    Anca,

    Yes, it’s very possible that Kamui’s true wish is ‘to live’
    I’ve no idea what Kamui’s true wish is. It might just as well be to die. I was just pointing out that his personnality is pretty much split by the two wishes, and that’s also why he becomes Kamui and D!Kamui. I see Dark Kamui as the embodiment of Kamui’s darkest wishes.

    It’d make for a nice, entirely non-homoerotic ending scene too.
    *snort*
    Yeah, but a bit redundant after Seishirou and Subaru.

    The only problem with what I said earlier is Subaru – he had the mother of all death wishes of the cast.
    Oh yes.
    From the beginning Subaru is the one who shows the most extreme tendancies of the Seals – he cares a whole lot for the world, but little to nothing for himself. Even before Seishirou messed him up the boy had zero sense of self preservation.. but he really, really cared about others.
    Subaru’s whole journey was about learning selfishness, as Seishirou’s whole journey was to learn to care for someone else – except they are very warped journeys. Remember how Hokuto wanted Subaru to care for someone, for his own sake? Something that he wouldn’t give up on, like he did his dream of zoo keeper. Well that was Seishirou. The one person Subaru really wanted, for himself, in the world. However due to how messed up their relationship was, it ended up being warped in Subaru’s deathwish (and Seishirou’s! lol) but at the beginning of X, Seishirou is the one person Subaru cares for, the reason he can produce a Kekkai. Even though he wants Seishirou to kill him… well he wants Seishirou to kill him, not anyone else would do. No suicide thus. When Seishirou dies, Subaru’s Kekkai disappears…. he no longuers has any stakes in keeping the world going on, and in the manga, Subaru becomes a Ten no Ryu as a result.

    it’s *Subaru* we’re talking about, probably the kindest member of the cast, along with Yuzuriha.
    Agreeing with you. Also Yuzuriha is clearly the only Seal who i able to face D!Kamui and survives because she really, really wants to live and to keep on protecting the world. No ‘but’, not ‘i want to die to protect this person’. No death wishes. She’s one of the strongest Seal.
    In the anime he disappears, and I honestly thought back when I first watched it that he jumped off a bridge.
    In the anime, Subaru actually reappear right at the end, to save Kamui’s life. I think he even produces a Kekkai to do so. Silly Kamui/Subaru shipper anime XD

    Still, he didn’t fit the Seal mold even before he changed sides; unless ‘wanting to live to be killed by THAT person’ qualifies as ‘wanting to live’, in which case Seishiro would not qualify as an Angel.
    lol, yeah; Seishirou is a shit Angel. Because he ends up caring for Subaru, in his own carped manner.

  15. Ebod says:

    Hmm, I’m really curious to how well the Subaru and Seishirou relationship is conveyed through just anime alone *has watched the anime and read the manga*.

    Oh right, psgels, are you going to watch the Tokyo Babylon OVAs in the future as well?

  16. Reltair says:

    I remember watching X TV way back in the day. Definitely a memorable series with the deep character development and progression to epicness. If you haven’t seen it already, go do so now!

  17. Marla-the-turist says:

    Wow, it brings back memories.. X was among the first animes I have seen and it really impressed me and made me want to check other series as well… it still has very special place in my heart. You just made me want to rewatch it all again, so thanks I guess :)

  18. Shiro, Long Tail\'s says:

    If you didn’t like X (TV) ending you can always give the movie a try. It’s relatively the same but with a different ending. Much shorter too so you can say goodbye to character development or context.

  19. sam says:

    read the manga!!!!!!!!!! the anime is nothing but a pale imatation the other kamui the so called bad guy is so amazing and complex you will love the manga

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@SuperMario KyoAni fan? What did you think of Kyoukai no Kanata? I really wanted to like it, I thought it had some potential, but IMO nothing worked right.
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@Mario: I connect more emotionally with Yang and Wong.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I went in expecting Edward Yang and Kar-wong-wai levels of quality, which may have been quite unfair standards to put him up against.
SuperMario
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@Mario: ....I'm really sorry, I don't mind long slow even spiritual, talky, non-narrative, old, complex,meditative , art films but I'm really really finding it hard to watch Hou Hsiao's work, I've tried time to live and the Assassin and I just bailed after 2 out of 3 hours on city of sadness.
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K-Off
@Aidan Assault on Arkham was fantastic. Between that and Under the Red Hood, a classic.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I have a lot to say in this week's Eccentric Family. Review will come up later tonight when I get back home from work.
AidanAK47
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Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Have you seen assault on Arkham or the justice league dark film?
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@Aidan: It isn't so much because its Talia x Batman, moreso that it feels odd shipping Batman with anyone.
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Kaiser-Eoghan
From reading comics a few years back, I still feel that they adapt better to animation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: And I say this as someone who was able to defend Alien 3 and Ressurection.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Covenent felt like an Infantilized version of Alien.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wouldn't call either John Wick film or free fire amazing or anything but they had great fight scenes that were actually visually coherent , of course they weren't given a proper release.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not watching/paying for anymore of these reboots/remakes/shakey cam pg rated action films anymore. I'll stick with my balls to the wall Hong-Kong/Chinese ones.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: It also had really uneven pacing aswell.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: ....The dialogue is so embarassing, they don't do enough with this backstory, they just keep teasing, none of the new characters have the same charisma , the editting in the action scenes shakes all overtheplace.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: I gave Covenent a fair chance, I thought it would be an exception to the reboot thing. I'll admit theres the sets, the atmosphere, Fassbenders performance , the idea to expand on the franchises mythos is cool but....
Kaiser-Eoghan
It really really hurts as a film fan, trying to find older, genuinely quality foreign films , finding that no-one is seeding them and theres no proper/in print dvd release anymore. Then finding some awful shakey cam modern American superhero film with billions of seeds and a bluray release.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I don't know. Todd was more the imperfect son always aiming for batmans approval. Damian is more an assasin wondering why the hell he can't just kill his enemies. I hear that Comic Damian works better than Animated Damian. I do think that if given a personality he could work but as he is currently you are right that he's essentially a mishmash of past robins.
Vonter
I watched Alien Covenant and I don't know if it improves by being more dumb and less pretentious or if it os the final nail in the Alien franchise coffin. Not since the StarWats prequels there has been a retcon that changes your view of the original movies.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can recall enjoying a certain Jason Todd centered story called Batman:death in the family.
K-Off
Well, even when Damian does completely cross the line and become a villain, he's not even that interesting, i.e Injustice. Yup, Jason Todd already covered everything, but better.
AidanAK47
Problem is that he's an edge lord cocky piece of shit that just doesn't have enough likeable traits for this to be compelling. What really pushed him over the edge was mocking Nightwing over his parents deaths. That shit is not on.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I like the contrast that Batman refuses to cross the line and kill but Damian has crossed that line. As well as his potentail to become a villain. Tim and Dick didn't really have that though Jason sort of did. Damian's arc is more about teaching him the morality of a hero.
K-Off
@Aidan I'm not sure I like Damian's concept to begin with. The Bat-son dilemma's inherently addressed by the Robins for all intents and purposes. Damian just goes through the same motion, only difference being he's biologically related.
K-Off
Yup. Wonderwoman either doesn't need to have a love interest, or it needs to be with Steve Trevor, the two have a solid backstory that the movies unnecessarily removed.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, I don't mind the Taila X batman pairing. Makes more sense than Batman and Batgirl. But if there's one pairing pushed in the new movies that I just find wrong is the Superman X wonder woman. I just don't get that one.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, I like the concept of Damian as a character. But it's executed so badly.
Anonymous1105941
Teen titans needs one more season to wrap up all the loose ends. Such as what happens to Slade, and Blackfires revenge. The creators clearly wanted to explore those plot lines but got cut short.
K-Off
Teen Titans hasn't aged very well, but one thing I still do like about it is how contained and local the setting and cast were for the first half of that show. When godly superpowers are involved, that appeals to me. Much of the same reason why I like Logan and Raimi's Spiderman so much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Very rarely watched teen titans when I was younger, I was vaguely interested in slade, stopped watching around when Terra appeared. I actively avoided comics where Damien appeared, never liked that Talia x Batman pairing much, I can only imagine how much worse it is to listen to Damien than read him.
K-Off
@Aidan, I like some aspects of those movies, but I'm not a big fan of the new continuity and art style in general...and yeah it doesn't help that Damian is irredeemably unlikable.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, There is also the DC animated Teen Titans movies like Teen Titans vs Justice Leage and Teen titans the Judus contract. Though it's not the same as the the TV series and Damian is such a dick.
K-Off
@Anon I don't think Teen Titans needs another season. The last season wasn't that good, but the movie ended the series on a high note and Young Justice pretty much rebooted everything, at least in terms of replacing people's want for a more mature DC cartoon about the Titans.
K-Off
Yeah it's become more of a hassel (for myself and my friends) to set aside time to go to a theater.
SuperMario
I guess in the end it all comes down to how easily it reaches the viewers. Give us a hard time and we don't give a damn to check the new movie/show out
SuperMario
... otherwise have to wait for a year, even more before it reaches Australia. But many companies will raise in the wake of Netflix and that will be where problems arise
SuperMario
This trend isn't happening within the anime industry, but it's happening in the movie world as well. In the past 2 years, Netflix starts to exclusively distribute many films, meaning that they won't have theatrical release, but straight to Video on Demand which caused quite a stir in the industry. Personally, I actually don't have much problem with it as now I will get a chance to see a film that
SuperMario
Dive!! , a series that will air next season on noitaminA slot will stream exclusively on Amazon Prime Video. Not that I'm eagerly looking forward to Dive, but that news again makes me frustrated. No one will watch it and then all the hypes it might have will die down eventually.
Anonymous1105394
Considering I didn't even expect a season 5 it's more than I could've evr wanted. Now if only if only Teen Titans could get the same chance.
Lenlo
Oh yeah, it turned out well. Didnt mean to say it didnt.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, Considering that the ratio of great to alright episodes is 8 to 2 I say that it turned out pretty well.
Lenlo
I have to say, the Samurai Jack season started stronger than it ended imo
AidanAK47
So this is how Samurai Jack ends. 16 years in the making. Honestly considering how much needed to get wrapped up I knew the ending would be a bit flawed. Really think Gen should have givin it one more episode to flesh out the ending and then it wouldn't feel so rushed. Overall despite it's flaws, it's a decent ending. Not prefect by any means but it will do the job.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Lol theres a surprise, seriously, Black Lagoons manga is updating again.
KTravlos
worst recap ever for me? Gangsta. That was a stupid recap episode. Really like a Public Announcement. Useless, stupid, and ruining atmosphere. Utter stupidity. There I got it our of me :p
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: Unfortunately too far behind in the sequel manga to catch up, I did take a look at THAT in the latest chapter though.
Masky
Huh, for some reason thought Tokyo Ghoul was under shonen when its seinen. Welp now that makes more sense, I was thinking story about cannibalism would be kinda absurd for shonen.
Spike
They serve no purpose except to fill airtime when production gets fucked up. They have 2 bad choices - run a recap or run an unfinished episode. Recap is generally the less dogshit choice. I've seen a few anime that ran the episodes with unfinished animations and still frames.... the backlash was about 100x what a recap is.
SuperMario
I'm about to say that to you as well Kaiser, maybe watch the recap and then continue on. The only thing I kind of take from the recap episode is the editting: how they chop off the fat of 6 episodes to still give you important developments. But as a way to catch up/ to reintroduce the series, it's freaking useless
Anonymous1104087
I don't think anyone should start from the recap episode. Unless there was a long hiatus, a recap in between episodes is unnecessary for new viewers and old
Lenlo
I mean, aside from whatever happens with Mugaro.
Lenlo
Next episode seems early, out of 24 episodes, for Nina to learn the Prince is Chris, yet that seems to be what the confrontation is leading towards, and then she freaks out and he learns shes the dragon. Becomes the conflict for the rest of the season?
Lenlo
Seems I was right, Azazel didnt predict that Nina might not be so easily riled up as she once was. To bad so sad Azazel, she has someone she loves now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
How useful are these recap episodes anyway/actually? Hypothetically lets say I was feeling lazy and decided to watch tsuki ga kirei starting from the recap episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
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Lenlo
So long as there are consequences for how hes acting, then I am ok with it. I just dont want him to turn into some MC hero when hes acting like this.
AidanAK47
And in Re:Creators Sota is still being a goddamn pussy. Now that the exposition has gone down I am really starting to hate this kid.
SuperMario
It's the presentation that they differ. Ghost Hound focuses more on the atmosphere, so those details I mentioned before work for their benefits; whereas Sagrada Reset focus on plots (and confusing themes) so those stick out like sore thumb.
SuperMario
4 episodes into Ghost Hound so far. This show also reminds me a bit of Sagrada Reset this season- the way they both emotional distant, complex plots; keep viewers away at arm's length, and feature characters that have robotic facial expressions. Yet I enjoyed Ghost Hound so far and couldn't engage in Sagrada Reset at all.
SuperMario
@Spike: I was like... "tsuki ga kirei has a recap episode, so let's move on to Kado"... another recap. Tsuki ga kirei I'm not too worry as it confirmed that it'll have 12 episodes, but I'm not confident on Kado
SuperMario
@lenlo: in a sense you have to suffer it all alone. No worries thou as I intend to binge watch it when this season's over
Spike
Kado team crumbled under the pressure. Recap this week.
Lenlo
@SuperMario, im happy I dont have to compete with anyone to cover Berserk :P Got it all to myself to whine about, though its been ever so slowly improving.
Anonymous1100725
Ranka is ranka in any verse.
Anonymous1100725
Bahmut no spoilers. Ranka Lee. She just doesn't get it so everyone dies. As she stands around wondering.
SuperMario
In fact, Okja will play in the Sydney film festival next month, but seeing that it will stream in Netflix at the end of June I think it's best to wait until then
SuperMario
@Kaiser: great, I'm super hyped to watch Okja. Always enjoy Boon's movies. The critic's reviews from Cannes on Okja should come up soon I believe.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I watched Lain many times over as well but I'm sure that I didn't pick up everything. That show required multiple-viewing anyways.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Good news, netflix will stream Okja at the end of this June.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Its not often that I rewatch things, but years ago I've seen Lain at least three times, its also one of those few anime series where I felt to look up deeper analysis into it. It had a tremendous atmosphere and was ahead of its time.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: watching Ghost Hound made me want to revisit Serial Experiment Lain and give my episodic thoughts on that. Not gonna happen soon as I have my hand full right now but I swear I'll get to that one day.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I actually am planning to rewatch ghost hound soon, so I'll give you my new thoughts on it then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I always avoided Altair mostly based on it being a shounen action series. Kakeguruis premise involves gambling games, which I don't find interesting.
KTravlos
Kakegurui is on my list. I thought it would be crap (terrible setting etc), but the manga won me over. Princess Principal will be given a chance, so will Shoukouko no Altair.and perhaps Reflection. We shall see. Also Twilight Axis Gundam, as I love the manga team.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Recap episodes exist because of production troubles. Sometimes shit happens when you make an anime.
You are being a bit overally argressive but I do agree with the statement that Ntr is pathetic power fantasy. It really is.
Anonymous1099236
Ntr is a pathetic power fantasy for pathetic people
Anonymous1099236
Why the hell do recap episodes exist. Do they think we're that autistic
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