Posted by psgels on 27 September 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews



I’m not a big fan of moe, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t give these types of series a chance. I’ve been proven wrong often enough times about these types of shows, and there are plenty of series that may look overly chichéd and stereotypical on the outside, yet turn out to be surprising gems on the inside. I was hoping Saki to be the same, and for a while it indeed looked like this was the case, but in the end it unfortunately ended up too much stuck in its own clichés and stereotypes to really develop into something worthwhile.

There are just too many fundamental problems with this series. This series is about Mah-Jong. In preparation for this series, you can clearly see that the creators read through all of the rules of Mah-Jong, they looked up all of the major strategies that can be used to win, but on the other hand it also becomes so obvious that they’ve never actually sat down to play a game, in order to get the feeling of how a game normally progresses.

And so, the matches in this series aren’t decided by strategy, but instead by pure luck. Matches basically revolve around who can pull the biggest Deus ex Machina near the end of every match. These magical powers enable the characters to cheat in all sorts of ways, like becoming invisible, getting extra luck when the rounds are arranged in a particular way, and even blatantly giving all of your opponent crappy hands so that you can do whatever you please. The creators don’t even make use of this. The matches all end in the most predictable ways, with no attempt whatsoever to spice them up beyond their original set-up (which is just a courtesy of the manga it’s based on anyway).

This would have all been forgiven if the characters made up for it. Unfortunately, there too it ultimately disappoints. This series has about thirty named characters, and nearly all of them just end up being one-dimensional clichés and stereotypes, with the few attempts that are made to develop them being the most predictable and clichéd attempts ever, so that doesn’t really help either.

In the end, there are just three characters that actually resemble characters and don’t exist based on their exaggerated quirks, and those are just a bunch of minor side-characters. They definitely manage to spice up the series when they’re in the focus, but they’re just too overshadowed by the lead characters, Saki and Nodoka who form one of the most obvious lesbian pairings I have ever seen. There’s nothing subtle about their romance at all. It’s just a constant onslaught of blushing and strange looks when these two are near each other.

But by far the worst character in this series has to be the only boy in the entire series. This guy is so incredibly obnoxious that he makes every scene he’s in a pain to sit through. His endless fantasies about Nodoka’s bosom just get worse and worse as time goes by, and overall he remains an utterly pointless character. There’s no reason whatsoever to have him in this series!

I recently (read: half an hour ago) realized that this series is quite similar to Yoku Wakaru Gendai Mahou: both series start out with a flawed premise of lots and lots of moe, seemingly stereotypical characters, magic and huge boobs. And that’s all the more of a shame that YWGM did end up creating something enjoyable with a tongue-in-the-cheek execution and fun chemistry, while Saki kept hanging with a bland and unimaginative execution that always picks the most predictable option to go forward. With one of the most obnoxious soundtracks of the season (I’m not the biggest fan of J-Pop, and it’s music like that that’s exactly the reason why!), it fails to move beyond mediocrity.

Storytelling: 7/10
Characters: 7/10
Production-Values: 7/10
Setting: 7/10

31 Responses

  1. plickity says:

    trolled

  2. Aldo-Naris(a) says:

    LOL Wut ?? You give 80 to Yokuwakaru, almost the same that to Eden of the East, but give a 62 to Saki ? And i think that every episode you see serves to flesh out the characters. No, seriously, it almost seems like there is not a single bad episode for you. And out of the blue, 62 to Saki. I’m not a fan of this, but it was better that Shangrila. Meh, opinions, to each its won.

  3. kode-dekka says:

    “To each his own” But I have to agree with you Aldo, at least Saki made sense.

  4. Zodiac Casino says:

    I want to know why Saki’s knees were red the entire series. Then again, i may already know that answer…

  5. d says:

    There’s no reason whatsoever to have him in this series!

    What? Don’t be such a hater! He does the errands, gets the tacos, and plays mahjong. You are just jealous because he is surrounded by girls and you are not. xD

  6. zaeris says:

    In general I think I understand, while I won’t outright say it does enforce the idea you came into the series expecting something else but it was never provided. I wouldn’t really fault the show as evident it’s a more of a pseudo Dragonball version of mahjong anime rather than a normal mahjong anime. With that said I didn’t believe the show wanted a to show viewers a normal game of mahjong but rather something fun equivalent to popular shounen series with flashy effects and power level.

  7. Sniperk says:

    Agreed with Zaeris.
    Personally, I came to watch the show hoping for absolutely nothing.

    It was about Mahjong.
    It was being animated by Gonzo.
    It was about lesbians.

    Nothing good seemed that could come out of it.
    But in the end, I just couldn’t wait every new episode.

    It has it’s charms, and not pretending to be something deep, or world changing, is one of them. It’s just a brainless shounen anime about flashy moves. Only in a mahjong table, instead of the monster around the corner.

  8. Howling-kun says:

    Yet, I had more fun with Saki than any other anime these past two seasons. More than ALL of them.

    It was stated this was a fanservice moe show from the very start and if you’re unpleased with this kind of Deus ex Machina (absolutely a standard in every game anime/manga), you won’t be enjoying Akagi either. In fact, you’ll hate Akagi’s one-dimensional characters even more.
    How’s Saki (Saki) different from Shion (Shion on Ou)? Shion did stuff just as glorious, but instead of labeled as “godly luck”, her skill was “levels to her opponent” and BOTH “controlled the game flow”.
    (Don’t get me wrong, I liked Shion much more too – character-wise the show is much better)
    Also, you clearly brought down the production values because you LOATHE J-Pop. Saki featured an excellent use of CG, the soundtrack is extremely over-the-top, making it as tense and over-blown as TTGL (of course, in it’s own scale), not to mentioned characters mostly look gorgeous and are all pretty sympathetic (only Tacos and the guy were kind of annoying sometimes). This is truthfully belongs in the Top Tier of fanservice shows for me, as it manages to deliver solid entertainment with more than T&A. I don’t know if you play Mahjong, but I almost had a heart attack every Rinshan Kaihou – even if they were predictable and “cheated” for Saki.

    Good job Gonzo, I think I’ll buy the DVDs for the gorgeous hug pillow that comes for free.

    • TryAgain says:

      You can replicate some of Akagi tactics in real life. Most of his analyzing of people move can be done and I saw happen before in my online play against others.
      You know very little about Mahjong if you actually compare them as both the same level as dues ex machina. Please don’t talk shit about shows you know nothing about.Like a fool that talks about go swordsmanship of killing through a show about kendo.

  9. Zodiac Casino says:

    I actually started playing mahjong because of this show, mostly in part to help understand how it all worked. And I think for what it was, it was a quite entertaining show. Especially since i was watching more of the heavy-content shows at the same time.

    And why were Saki’s knees always red? Or do i already know the answer to that?

  10. Reltair says:

    When I first saw Saki, I could see a lot of potential in the series and looked forward to its development. But I was somewhat disappointed in the direction that it took (increasingly crazy win methods akin to Prince of Tennis style).

    It was still entertaining to watch though, so I would rate it higher than a 62.

  11. kalandra says:

    Put it in this perspective :

    Assuming neither series gets a second,

    10 years later, who would still remember Saki? 5 years from now, who would still recommend Saki to their friends?

    Now try the same question for Shangri La. I am sure Shangri La gets a better chance.

    Sure, Saki is entertaining, but its nothing more then fluff produced every season.

    • PVCPipe says:

      It’s 2013 now. Between Saki and Shangri La, I’m pretty sure Saki is more remembered than Shangri La. Saki is still talk more than Shangri La. Have you seen Saki dominance in Saimoe Japan 2012?

  12. zaeris says:

    If it was entertaining and enjoyable why would you not recommend it to someone else?

    I just felt psgel had to wrong reason for watching this series. At a whole a comparison between this and Shion no ou seem quite drastic, while the premise of mahjong are similar there are clear distinct style used and the emphasis are different in both shows. Arguably this is a moe infested fluff show but a good one at that as it offers mores using the term moeru.

    I will just add this in, while saki sported a large cast I believe that everyone in this show was well fleshed out in the 25 episodes as manageable as possible. Every school got to have their own screen time and back story. While it is not much it did get a lot of people into learning mahjong.

  13. juu says:

    I thought the episodes that still follow the manga are quite enjoyable (though nothing great), while the anime-original episodes (the individual tournament) was a lot weaker and rather boring. Leaves a bad last impression for me…

  14. psgels psgels says:

    Like I said, I would not have minded the screwed game mechanics if the characters were enjoyable enough (like what I experienced with Yoku Wakaru Gendai Mahou and especially Shion no Ou, which was IMO much better in hiding these deus ex machina), but near the end of the series I was just boringly sitting through the series, hoping for it to get finished as soon as possible. I was actually into the series at one point, but I think that during Saki and Koromo’s match, my suspense of disbelief was completely shattered.

    I was indeed first planning to rate this series higher, but as I started writing this review I couldn’t think of any good reason to warrant it this, based on my own enjoyment. I guess it’s also my expectations that were a bit wrong with this series. But yeah, 65 may be a bit too low…

    Oh, and @howling-kun: one of the reasons why I rated thep roduction-values low was indeed that I didn’t like the soundtrack, but also because unlike you I wasn’t really that enamored by the character-designs. From my view, they were just a bit too exaggerated on the moe part.

  15. Nomus says:

    Totally agreed with review. Why the heck did you rise the rating? Now it looks strange. All review is about how awful this thing is, but in the end it gets 70, witch is quite good. After Shion and Kaiji it looks like an insult.

    And kalandra was right: after Shangri it’s even harder to take gonzocrap seriously.

  16. Perrin4869 says:

    Congratulations on actually being able to finish this… I didn’t even manage to get interested in watching the first episode! Did you truly believe there was any chance in hell this could have been good?

  17. Howling-kun says:

    @kalandra: Well I guess I’ll remember Saki forever. There are are only 3 mahjong anime and I recommend them to everyone I play with.

    @psgels: I don’t blame you, since you aren’t a big fan of moe shows. This is a moefan’s paradise: characters look cute and aren’t mentally handicapped.

  18. Anon says:

    Saki is a good moe show where the moe doesn’t really get in the way of the plot. Even with the moe elements, the majority of the time is spent on Mahjong. K-ON is an example of a bad moe show. The moe gets in the way of the show being about a music club. As a result, there’s no progression. You don’t feel like the characters have improved any or any closer to reaching their goal.

  19. Kalandra says:

    Ack! Why did Saki score got increased? I don’t expect you to bend over from peer pressure.

    Its one thing to think this is a good series, its another to rate it better after complains from the fans.

  20. psgels psgels says:

    Kalandra: it’s also one thing to make mistakes. After thinking back, I realized that I indeed may have been a bit too strict and that there were at least parts that I enjoyed. I didn’t change the rating because of peer pressure, but because of my own ideas. I probably would have come to the same conclusion if nobody complained.

  21. Tk007 says:

    I love anime like Tokyo magnitude 8, Guin saga, Phantom, kemono no souja Erin, etc. But somethimes the mood just isn’t right to watch those anime. That is when anime like Saki or Taishou yakyuu musume comes in.

    Saki has a simple setting. It has no deep plotline. It does not have evildoers or villains behind the scene. You don’t have to get too attached to the characters. It’s simply an anime about a group of people playing mahjong in the most animated way possible. It’s just something you watch, be entertained, and forgot about it later. I’ll have to admit that it has kept me entertained for these past few months and found myself eagerly anticipating the next episode during their qualifying tournaments arc. Overall, I’m satisfied with the show for what it is.

    In the end, the score doesn’t really matter. No matter how high or how low the score is, it has nothing to do with my (or your) enjoyment level.

  22. Kalandra says:

    Call me a fanboy, but I don’t get how you like Saki more then say… Lucky Star.

  23. psgels psgels says:

    I guess it’s the matches in the middle of the series, that at least tried to bring in some interestin characters like the invisible girl (who ironically got more background than the lead characters) and the thief girl. Lucky Star on top of being stereotypical was also repetitive, while Saki at least changed.

  24. wouldgettrolledagain says:

    A lower score than Gurren Lagan?
    Heh.

  25. Nomus says:

    psgels
    I can understand your reasoning. But won’t it be better to rewrite the review then? Because you said nothing good about the show. “It fails to move beyond mediocrity” and “70” don’t connect.^^

  26. Juni says:

    This had a lot of potential, but it really feels like the mahjong games were stupid and lazy.

    On the bright side, I heard that Legend of Koizumi is getting an anime!

  27. Anonomyous says:

    Its now 2011 and i just rewatched Saki and it was just as fun.

    The ridiculous Koromo match and Koromo’s inner darkness contrasted with her childish ways as well as the silliness of Saki seemingly afraid but actually just wanting to go to the toilet.

    This is a fun series which i would definitely recommend above shangrila.

  28. elior1 says:

    saki will get a second season next year

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@Bam: I watched Rene Laloux's remain animated films, Gandahar and time masters, I enjoyed both but not as much as Fantastic planet. I remember we talked about fantastic planet two years ago. Did you see the other two I mentioned. I liked the big moments and the ending to time masters, especially those angel things.
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Ok. I beat Federation Force. I think the main positive is that the levels were playable despite the lack of voice chat. The bosses took a lot of damage and the beginning and end are relevant to the Prime continuity.
SuperMario
@K-Off: I did it once just like you did, and once when I put a metal bowl into a microwave. So yeah, boys will always be boys.
Bam
I tried my best not to half-ass either of them tho. Any oddity you guys see just write it off as mental exhaustion.
Bam
Okay, I'm officially beat. These two reviews should be considered companion pieces, as some material from one flew into the other. Thank god that episode 08 was not a heavy one, or I'd be completely depleted.
K-Off
Shit, I'm a damn idiot at baking, slightly burnt my hand a minute ago grabbing a hot tray with a wet towl. Why do I even try.
K-Off
@afgm Alright, send me a message at fightthepowwa@gmail.com and we'll work it out.
Bam
*cinematography
Bam
@K-off: I second that, as although the Poirot series has very well-done choreography, casting and music, there is still a little more of that unquantifiable magic sprinkled on the Granada series. But keep watching and I'll guarantee that Suchet will become the quintessential Poirot in your mind as well.
K-Off
I said that while I liked the performance and the direction, I didn't think that it did for Poirot what Granada did for Holmes.
K-Off
@Bam Yeah it is, and generally when I camp I like to stay for 1-2 weeks, places like Niagara or Yellowstone I can pretty much see everything I want to see in a few days so I don't find much value going to those places. The Adirons on the other hand is diverse as hell.
Bam
@K-off: I'm not sure if you mentioned it while I was gone: but did you get to watch any of the Poirot series with David Suchet? And if so, what are your thoughts?
Bam
I generally go to either the Muir Woods north of SF, or the forests around Big Sur. It doesn't take much to please me really.
Bam
@K-ff: is that by Lake Champlain? Cuz I've been there once and loved it.
Bam
@K-off: I thought of a combined post, but my OCD wouldn't allow a skip in the episodic order of the reviews.
K-Off
Usually when you go camping in Yellowstone or Yosemite the tourist industry kills those places, like I'd be on a rowboat and see cars, cabins, and people from a long ways offshore. The Adirondacks are nice because their building codes mandate construction to be hidden behind trees.
K-Off
@Bam My favorite camping spot is the Adirondacks in upstate NY, I went there probably 4-7 times and never get tired of the place. No, I don't have any posts for now, but for future reference consider combining episodic reviews when you get behind. I.E. Episode 6-8 Review
Bam
Also there's a reader in the comment section of Berserk 07 who wants to know if we have a notification system. I vaguely remember a widget that links the site to a FaceBook page. If anybody knows how that works, or if it's still functional, please shed some light on the matter for him/her. Thx.
Bam
@Aidan @K-off @Mario either one of y'all has any post near completion? I'm almost done with Berserk 08 and as previously mentioned, really prefer not to put two reviews up back to back. I think the length of them is already a hassle for some to get thru, let alone two right after eachother. I think it hurts the viewership, but if nothing's on hand then I'll guess I'll just finish up and post mine.
Bam
@Kaiser: I was actually camping near a mountain, but aren't all mountains somewhat holy? That could be my bias tho, since I was raised on the Alborz mountain range, and for me there is something therapeutic about the mountain air.
Kaiser Eoghan
Yes! Looks like the shoutbox is fixed and not deleting posts after 24 hours anymore!
Kaiser Eoghan
lol Or you could live in the shitty suburb where I do and spend your time just waiting for when your internet connection randomly cuts out twice a month or as it has the past few days two-three times a day.
Kaiser Eoghan
Basically bam went up the Holy mountain .
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: ....guy I know who loves war films and I've ended up inadvertedly/un-intentionally gotten him to buy some fucked up Polish horror film that just happens to be set in WW2. lol he's going to be pretty freaked out when he watches it.
Bam
Everything been cool here? Hehe ... looks like I conveniently missed all the hard parts.
Bam
@Mario: thx m8. I wish I could just make it down to Rio on a whim, but then again, I took a much-needed vacation, so I ain't complaining.
SuperMario
Welcome back Bam, I was already convinced that you went to Rio for screwing around. Lol
Bam
Also I apologize for the absence. I was gone somewhere without reliable internet access, and looking back I should've gave a notification.
Either way, I'm back now, and will be jumping on getting those Berserk reviews out as soon as possible.
Bam
Man looky here with the renovations; I like it.
SuperMario
@Vyse: wow. So how was the sites then back from 2005?
SuperMario
@Kaiser: and what is that sh!te you're talking about?
VyseLegendaire
<— fixed
VyseLegendaire
<— me
VyseLegendaire
Ive been a reader since 2005
Kaiser Eoghan
Haha, this'll be fun lol
Kaiser Eoghan
.....that feeling when you keep going on about a show or film but fail to give all the details...and someone goes out and buys it not knowing the full extent of the mad shit their in for...s--t lol
Anonymous24840
any reader from 2005 here....
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: This guy seems interesting: https://letterboxd.com/director/tsai-ming-liang/
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Hmm, not familiar with him.
I really really loved in the mood for love, alot, it emotionally effected me. I even watched it three times.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I couldn't seem to enjoy any of Zimou yangs films apart from Hero, which had some pretty creative fight scenes. I've seen the story of Ricky and some of John-woos films but they were more just silly entertaining exploitation films.
SuperMario
Don't know if you know the Vietnamese-French Tran Anh Hung. His works are stunning too. If you want to check out East-Asian cinema don't forget to check him out.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Yeah, but Park Chan Wood changed the ending, so the author insisted that the Handmaiden is more "inspired" than "based". The third chapter is the weakest part for me
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Of interest, The handmaiden was based on some British book/tv show.
Kaiser Eoghan
I need to completely re-evaluate/get into more Chinese cinema.
Kaiser Eoghan
Doesn't look like I've seen anything by Hong-sang-so.
My favourite Korean actor is song-kang-ho.
Kaiser Eoghan
Theres an anime convention over here in Dublin in three months. Although I haven't been to one in years.
SuperMario
I'm heading to anime convention today. Normally I don't really care about those conventions but I figure I'd come this year to see the taste of it. The only hassle is it's 3-hour drive, which gonna be a pain when I drive back after a long day being there.
SuperMario
Bong Joon-ho, on the other hand,is incredible at writing. His scripts are often layered, sharp and best of all fuses many tones/ genres into one coherent whole. The best thing about this Korean New Wave directors is they all have very distinctive voices. But my favorite director isn't the ones that you list. That would be Hong Sang Soo. I just love his simplicity style so much.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Park Chan Wood is a master of visual. Whenever I come to his movies I expected to be blown-away by his visual. He can write compelling characters (he loves his characters) as well but his screenplays in general are weak. You can watch his lesser effort "I'm a Cyborg, but That's Okay" and see many things that made him good/bad. That's the movie I feel he made without the care of the critic
afgm
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afgm
@koff: Yeah I can help. But midterms/finals are coming up so I can't dedicate to much time.
Kaiser Eoghan
I always felt Bong-jong and Chang-dong , kim-di-duk and Kim-jee-woon were better than Park-chan-wook. Oldboy did have that one hell of an ending, so did lady vengeance but I feel that those are the bits people tend to remember and the rest was good but not great.
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