Posted by psgels on 27 September 2009 with categories: Anime Reviews

I’m not a big fan of moe, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t give these types of series a chance. I’ve been proven wrong often enough times about these types of shows, and there are plenty of series that may look overly chichéd and stereotypical on the outside, yet turn out to be surprising gems on the inside. I was hoping Saki to be the same, and for a while it indeed looked like this was the case, but in the end it unfortunately ended up too much stuck in its own clichés and stereotypes to really develop into something worthwhile.

There are just too many fundamental problems with this series. This series is about Mah-Jong. In preparation for this series, you can clearly see that the creators read through all of the rules of Mah-Jong, they looked up all of the major strategies that can be used to win, but on the other hand it also becomes so obvious that they’ve never actually sat down to play a game, in order to get the feeling of how a game normally progresses.

And so, the matches in this series aren’t decided by strategy, but instead by pure luck. Matches basically revolve around who can pull the biggest Deus ex Machina near the end of every match. These magical powers enable the characters to cheat in all sorts of ways, like becoming invisible, getting extra luck when the rounds are arranged in a particular way, and even blatantly giving all of your opponent crappy hands so that you can do whatever you please. The creators don’t even make use of this. The matches all end in the most predictable ways, with no attempt whatsoever to spice them up beyond their original set-up (which is just a courtesy of the manga it’s based on anyway).

This would have all been forgiven if the characters made up for it. Unfortunately, there too it ultimately disappoints. This series has about thirty named characters, and nearly all of them just end up being one-dimensional clichés and stereotypes, with the few attempts that are made to develop them being the most predictable and clichéd attempts ever, so that doesn’t really help either.

In the end, there are just three characters that actually resemble characters and don’t exist based on their exaggerated quirks, and those are just a bunch of minor side-characters. They definitely manage to spice up the series when they’re in the focus, but they’re just too overshadowed by the lead characters, Saki and Nodoka who form one of the most obvious lesbian pairings I have ever seen. There’s nothing subtle about their romance at all. It’s just a constant onslaught of blushing and strange looks when these two are near each other.

But by far the worst character in this series has to be the only boy in the entire series. This guy is so incredibly obnoxious that he makes every scene he’s in a pain to sit through. His endless fantasies about Nodoka’s bosom just get worse and worse as time goes by, and overall he remains an utterly pointless character. There’s no reason whatsoever to have him in this series!

I recently (read: half an hour ago) realized that this series is quite similar to Yoku Wakaru Gendai Mahou: both series start out with a flawed premise of lots and lots of moe, seemingly stereotypical characters, magic and huge boobs. And that’s all the more of a shame that YWGM did end up creating something enjoyable with a tongue-in-the-cheek execution and fun chemistry, while Saki kept hanging with a bland and unimaginative execution that always picks the most predictable option to go forward. With one of the most obnoxious soundtracks of the season (I’m not the biggest fan of J-Pop, and it’s music like that that’s exactly the reason why!), it fails to move beyond mediocrity.

Storytelling: 7/10
Characters: 7/10
Production-Values: 7/10
Setting: 7/10

31 Responses

  1. plickity says:


  2. Aldo-Naris(a) says:

    LOL Wut ?? You give 80 to Yokuwakaru, almost the same that to Eden of the East, but give a 62 to Saki ? And i think that every episode you see serves to flesh out the characters. No, seriously, it almost seems like there is not a single bad episode for you. And out of the blue, 62 to Saki. I’m not a fan of this, but it was better that Shangrila. Meh, opinions, to each its won.

  3. kode-dekka says:

    “To each his own” But I have to agree with you Aldo, at least Saki made sense.

  4. Zodiac Casino says:

    I want to know why Saki’s knees were red the entire series. Then again, i may already know that answer…

  5. d says:

    There’s no reason whatsoever to have him in this series!

    What? Don’t be such a hater! He does the errands, gets the tacos, and plays mahjong. You are just jealous because he is surrounded by girls and you are not. xD

  6. zaeris says:

    In general I think I understand, while I won’t outright say it does enforce the idea you came into the series expecting something else but it was never provided. I wouldn’t really fault the show as evident it’s a more of a pseudo Dragonball version of mahjong anime rather than a normal mahjong anime. With that said I didn’t believe the show wanted a to show viewers a normal game of mahjong but rather something fun equivalent to popular shounen series with flashy effects and power level.

  7. Sniperk says:

    Agreed with Zaeris.
    Personally, I came to watch the show hoping for absolutely nothing.

    It was about Mahjong.
    It was being animated by Gonzo.
    It was about lesbians.

    Nothing good seemed that could come out of it.
    But in the end, I just couldn’t wait every new episode.

    It has it’s charms, and not pretending to be something deep, or world changing, is one of them. It’s just a brainless shounen anime about flashy moves. Only in a mahjong table, instead of the monster around the corner.

  8. Howling-kun says:

    Yet, I had more fun with Saki than any other anime these past two seasons. More than ALL of them.

    It was stated this was a fanservice moe show from the very start and if you’re unpleased with this kind of Deus ex Machina (absolutely a standard in every game anime/manga), you won’t be enjoying Akagi either. In fact, you’ll hate Akagi’s one-dimensional characters even more.
    How’s Saki (Saki) different from Shion (Shion on Ou)? Shion did stuff just as glorious, but instead of labeled as “godly luck”, her skill was “levels to her opponent” and BOTH “controlled the game flow”.
    (Don’t get me wrong, I liked Shion much more too – character-wise the show is much better)
    Also, you clearly brought down the production values because you LOATHE J-Pop. Saki featured an excellent use of CG, the soundtrack is extremely over-the-top, making it as tense and over-blown as TTGL (of course, in it’s own scale), not to mentioned characters mostly look gorgeous and are all pretty sympathetic (only Tacos and the guy were kind of annoying sometimes). This is truthfully belongs in the Top Tier of fanservice shows for me, as it manages to deliver solid entertainment with more than T&A. I don’t know if you play Mahjong, but I almost had a heart attack every Rinshan Kaihou – even if they were predictable and “cheated” for Saki.

    Good job Gonzo, I think I’ll buy the DVDs for the gorgeous hug pillow that comes for free.

    • TryAgain says:

      You can replicate some of Akagi tactics in real life. Most of his analyzing of people move can be done and I saw happen before in my online play against others.
      You know very little about Mahjong if you actually compare them as both the same level as dues ex machina. Please don’t talk shit about shows you know nothing about.Like a fool that talks about go swordsmanship of killing through a show about kendo.

  9. Zodiac Casino says:

    I actually started playing mahjong because of this show, mostly in part to help understand how it all worked. And I think for what it was, it was a quite entertaining show. Especially since i was watching more of the heavy-content shows at the same time.

    And why were Saki’s knees always red? Or do i already know the answer to that?

  10. Reltair says:

    When I first saw Saki, I could see a lot of potential in the series and looked forward to its development. But I was somewhat disappointed in the direction that it took (increasingly crazy win methods akin to Prince of Tennis style).

    It was still entertaining to watch though, so I would rate it higher than a 62.

  11. kalandra says:

    Put it in this perspective :

    Assuming neither series gets a second,

    10 years later, who would still remember Saki? 5 years from now, who would still recommend Saki to their friends?

    Now try the same question for Shangri La. I am sure Shangri La gets a better chance.

    Sure, Saki is entertaining, but its nothing more then fluff produced every season.

    • PVCPipe says:

      It’s 2013 now. Between Saki and Shangri La, I’m pretty sure Saki is more remembered than Shangri La. Saki is still talk more than Shangri La. Have you seen Saki dominance in Saimoe Japan 2012?

  12. zaeris says:

    If it was entertaining and enjoyable why would you not recommend it to someone else?

    I just felt psgel had to wrong reason for watching this series. At a whole a comparison between this and Shion no ou seem quite drastic, while the premise of mahjong are similar there are clear distinct style used and the emphasis are different in both shows. Arguably this is a moe infested fluff show but a good one at that as it offers mores using the term moeru.

    I will just add this in, while saki sported a large cast I believe that everyone in this show was well fleshed out in the 25 episodes as manageable as possible. Every school got to have their own screen time and back story. While it is not much it did get a lot of people into learning mahjong.

  13. juu says:

    I thought the episodes that still follow the manga are quite enjoyable (though nothing great), while the anime-original episodes (the individual tournament) was a lot weaker and rather boring. Leaves a bad last impression for me…

  14. psgels psgels says:

    Like I said, I would not have minded the screwed game mechanics if the characters were enjoyable enough (like what I experienced with Yoku Wakaru Gendai Mahou and especially Shion no Ou, which was IMO much better in hiding these deus ex machina), but near the end of the series I was just boringly sitting through the series, hoping for it to get finished as soon as possible. I was actually into the series at one point, but I think that during Saki and Koromo’s match, my suspense of disbelief was completely shattered.

    I was indeed first planning to rate this series higher, but as I started writing this review I couldn’t think of any good reason to warrant it this, based on my own enjoyment. I guess it’s also my expectations that were a bit wrong with this series. But yeah, 65 may be a bit too low…

    Oh, and @howling-kun: one of the reasons why I rated thep roduction-values low was indeed that I didn’t like the soundtrack, but also because unlike you I wasn’t really that enamored by the character-designs. From my view, they were just a bit too exaggerated on the moe part.

  15. Nomus says:

    Totally agreed with review. Why the heck did you rise the rating? Now it looks strange. All review is about how awful this thing is, but in the end it gets 70, witch is quite good. After Shion and Kaiji it looks like an insult.

    And kalandra was right: after Shangri it’s even harder to take gonzocrap seriously.

  16. Perrin4869 says:

    Congratulations on actually being able to finish this… I didn’t even manage to get interested in watching the first episode! Did you truly believe there was any chance in hell this could have been good?

  17. Howling-kun says:

    @kalandra: Well I guess I’ll remember Saki forever. There are are only 3 mahjong anime and I recommend them to everyone I play with.

    @psgels: I don’t blame you, since you aren’t a big fan of moe shows. This is a moefan’s paradise: characters look cute and aren’t mentally handicapped.

  18. Anon says:

    Saki is a good moe show where the moe doesn’t really get in the way of the plot. Even with the moe elements, the majority of the time is spent on Mahjong. K-ON is an example of a bad moe show. The moe gets in the way of the show being about a music club. As a result, there’s no progression. You don’t feel like the characters have improved any or any closer to reaching their goal.

  19. Kalandra says:

    Ack! Why did Saki score got increased? I don’t expect you to bend over from peer pressure.

    Its one thing to think this is a good series, its another to rate it better after complains from the fans.

  20. psgels psgels says:

    Kalandra: it’s also one thing to make mistakes. After thinking back, I realized that I indeed may have been a bit too strict and that there were at least parts that I enjoyed. I didn’t change the rating because of peer pressure, but because of my own ideas. I probably would have come to the same conclusion if nobody complained.

  21. Tk007 says:

    I love anime like Tokyo magnitude 8, Guin saga, Phantom, kemono no souja Erin, etc. But somethimes the mood just isn’t right to watch those anime. That is when anime like Saki or Taishou yakyuu musume comes in.

    Saki has a simple setting. It has no deep plotline. It does not have evildoers or villains behind the scene. You don’t have to get too attached to the characters. It’s simply an anime about a group of people playing mahjong in the most animated way possible. It’s just something you watch, be entertained, and forgot about it later. I’ll have to admit that it has kept me entertained for these past few months and found myself eagerly anticipating the next episode during their qualifying tournaments arc. Overall, I’m satisfied with the show for what it is.

    In the end, the score doesn’t really matter. No matter how high or how low the score is, it has nothing to do with my (or your) enjoyment level.

  22. Kalandra says:

    Call me a fanboy, but I don’t get how you like Saki more then say… Lucky Star.

  23. psgels psgels says:

    I guess it’s the matches in the middle of the series, that at least tried to bring in some interestin characters like the invisible girl (who ironically got more background than the lead characters) and the thief girl. Lucky Star on top of being stereotypical was also repetitive, while Saki at least changed.

  24. wouldgettrolledagain says:

    A lower score than Gurren Lagan?

  25. Nomus says:

    I can understand your reasoning. But won’t it be better to rewrite the review then? Because you said nothing good about the show. “It fails to move beyond mediocrity” and “70” don’t connect.^^

  26. Juni says:

    This had a lot of potential, but it really feels like the mahjong games were stupid and lazy.

    On the bright side, I heard that Legend of Koizumi is getting an anime!

  27. Anonomyous says:

    Its now 2011 and i just rewatched Saki and it was just as fun.

    The ridiculous Koromo match and Koromo’s inner darkness contrasted with her childish ways as well as the silliness of Saki seemingly afraid but actually just wanting to go to the toilet.

    This is a fun series which i would definitely recommend above shangrila.

  28. elior1 says:

    saki will get a second season next year

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Going back to the fanservice topic, its very easy to complain about it in anything but then something actually comes along that actually does it for you. I mean I always say that I don't watch a show/movie for its fanservice elements and stick with pictures on image boards, but then I ended up seeing a film where I actually got something out of the fanservice while watching the film its.
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The oujia prequel was competent genre fare, the director cared about the characters and every now and the built up a decent mood. Although jump Scares are there . And I always appreciate a horror film having a mean spirited ending. One of the rare cases where the young actors do well in a horror film. The pace is a bit uneven, rushed and a bit laggy .
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In the sense of how messed up/especially bleak those two episodes were.
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There was the sense too with both those episodes of "Jesus...I wasn't ready for that...."
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Though the first episode of the first season and the third episode of season 3 are very hard to beat. Adding to what I thought of s3 ep3 I felt that one hit me on the same level as s1 ep1 did so.
Though in previous seasons I generally only really liked 2 out of the 3.
@Kaiser, though the previous seasons where only 3 episodes long and you enjoyed 3 out of 6 in this season. So yo essentially get the same amount of enjoyment as previous seasons.
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Based on my comments, it looks like I had a mixed reaction to the third season. Three out of six, but the great was was great and forgives it but I still feel that there was more of a consistentancy in quality in the other seasons. I enjoyed every story in seasons 1 and 2.
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The final episode felt like a movie all on its own, I'd have gladly watched another thirty minutes of it, ending was a nice punch in the gut.
Just finished black mirror season 3. I hear people basically complaining that it's not as strong as the previous two season but I disagree. I really enjoyed this and this is a show that deserves much more episodes. Personal favorite is between shut up and dance and hated in the nation. Worst I thought was San Junipero. Overall thought each episode was interesting.
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On the upside I loved black mirrors fifth episode, I'm a sucker for war/action-dramas and I particularly liked the tech in this one.
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Yeah this is impossible for me to sit through, the romance part is also rather dull.
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Eh, this fourth episode is plodding and trite, feels like a bad, poorly dated 90s film.
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@Aidan: Third episode also instilled a great sense of paranoia.
@Kaiser: thanks for that mate. I have too much to say for Flipflappers but to put them all in coherent flow is goddamn hard. And like I said I still fell I left many details out: that gung-ho potato or Yayaka and the twins
@Friend: jugding from the last convention I went to, people loved Re:Zero customs (Emilia and Rem, Ram were highlights. Or you could try RWBY characters (I for once love to see someone cosplay Pirrha Nikos or Velvet Scarlatina)
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@Aidan: Didn't care much for new black mirrors second episode, then again I'm not really the target for that story. The third episode while a bit heavyhanded and predictable was suspenseful, nasty/mean and I liked that about it, did in 50 minutes what some thrillers fail to achieve in two hours.
Holo is a good one :0
Materials aren't a problem at all for the most part, except for anything too crazy like working in brass. I'd prefer it to be characters I'm familiar with.
Does it matter to you that they're from shows that you like, or are you just in it for the challenge?
@Friend Aidan has some good ones there. I'd also give the cast of Akame ga Kiru a shot, I don't like the series but it has a lot of neat character designs.
I was thinking simple as I didn't know what kind of materials you got on hand. I was also thinking of Holo from spice and wolf or Kino from Kinos journey either.
Mm, Tatsumaki might be not challenging enough to design for. Doesn't Shiki simply wear either a coat or Japanese kimono? I do work in set design and not in character prop design, but I'd love to try something that would let me reasonably challenge myself.
@Friend, Spit balling here but Tatsumaki from One Punch Man? I know the costume for that one would be simple enough. Or maybe Shiki from Kara No Kyoukai?
*I don't want to do anything too complex for my first try, but I also don't want to do anything boring. Boring would be a character like Rukia or Celty. Any ideas?
I remember talking about this with Emma/Kaiser before, but has anyone here gone cosplaying at an expo before? I thought it would be neat to try designing my own costume and try something else beside drawing on a computer.
@Kaiser, I am up to episode 4. 3 has been the best one so far.Though in all these episodes I pretty much figured out the twist from the get go. Still this shows always tends to get you thinking.
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I think the roles/identity thing with flipflappers, at least with the protaganist does fit in well with adolescence.
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@Aidan: I've only seen the first episode so far. I felt the acting was intentional and reflected the satire Brooker was going for on the shallow nature of society. Bleak as ever but gloriously grotesque.
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@Mario:Good in depth reviewing there Mario of flipflappers episode three.
Good god this first episode of black mirror is hard to watch. I know exactly how it's going to turn out but it's just so damn painful to watch.
Well, tbh up to where I've seen there's not much explicit yaoi in yuri on ice, only a lot of fujoshi fuel.
@Kaiser. thanks for the torrent. Gonna blaze through this today.
@Topgavin, as someone who watches a metric ton of anime I am rather surprised at that estimate that 90% of it contains Yuri.
My god those gay scenes in Yuri on Ice are hard to watch for me. Wonder if this is how it feels to be a girl watching 90% of normal anime nowadays.
okay, Flip Flappers episodic review was up. This is my lengthiest weekly review so far and I still feel I missed a lot of points. Damn you Flip Flappers
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You have seen the light, not needing to know everything thats happening to enjoy something ^_^
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I've given some consideration to reviewing that oujia film followup.
Whether you see one or the other is entirely up to your preferences, so it makes no difference to me which is worse. I have gotten very tired of generic character types, but again that's just because of the things I decide to regularly follow.
I will say if it must come down to either unnatural dialogue or unnatural character types, at leas the character type is speaking their own words and not the words of the script writer.
Or was that a black and white fallacy? Maybe it was a little of both.
@Realjustified, K-Off wasn't agreeing with me. That's a Moving the Goal Posts logical Fallacy but well I will answer regardless. Honestly it's preferable to have neither. The big mistake you are making here is that you are putting down a condiction that a show must have one or the other. But both cartoons and anime can have both. I just think it's a lot more prominent in cartoons than anime.
Like, having read hundreds of harem manga over the years, a majority of the ultimate love interest always happens to be the first girl the protagonist meets.
Wait wait wait wait. Aidan and K-Off. I get that dialogue in cartoon can seem like it was written by a script writer, but at the same time, lots of anime have characters whose sole purpose is entirely scripted. The whole spectrum of "deres" and everything. What do you think is worse? Unnatural dialogue, or unnatural character types?
You guys should really go fuck yourself, it's a solution and it's nothing short of great!
You guys should really watch the first 4 episodes of Bungo, it's a prequel and it was nothing short of great!
omg!! I just realized To be Hero was one of the show that I reviewed its 1st episode back in Chinese Animation post. I watched raw then though
forgive me if I'm a bit too overwhelmed by Flip Flappers... For this episode alone I took like 25 screenshots...trying to write a review now...
I have absolutely no idea what is going on in Flip Flappers plot. And yet for some reason I am OK with that.
Anyone out there that's a fan of crude humor should go watch ep.3 of To Be Hero. Certinately stepped it up a notch from the last two humor-wise.
One downside I can think of already is that I'm bound to lose or break one of the detachable controllers. The cost for those pieces is what I'm most interested in.
Nintendo Switch hmm? Honestly it looks too good to be true. I expect some major downsides to this thing.
I like cartoons, don't get me wrong. Certainly good for a change of pace. But there is something about the way they are written that I find rather distracting.
I don't know, maybe if I said it's like the difference from how characters talk in movie vs how characters talk in a sitcom?
@K-Off, I said one liner's or jokes. Not one liner jokes. It's hard to explain. Basically when I hear a conversation in anime even if it is based in stereotypes, it at least feels like a conversation that's being had in the moment. In cartoons however there is a layer of artificiality and it feels like characters know what a person is going to say and has a response prepared.
That's probably why some of my favorite anime in recent years haven't been very heavy on character archetypes, or were either parodies of it.
Comedic dialogue with anime in recent years have leaned too much on the idea of playing off character archetypes. The collected character vs the energetic character, for one. I'd like to see more variety. Some more word play, hyperbolic humor, body humor, etc etc.
@Aidan Not quite sure what you mean by that, because it's certainly not even a majority of cartoons that rely on cheap one liner jokes. I suppose it's entirely up to taste, but I can appreciate the energy in cartoons like Steven Universe or Regular Show when compared to the increasingly repetitive dialogue found in some recent anime.
@Topgavin: I just read that review and his main reason being Shelter is pretentious. oh well! Can't never please anyone.
Thought I'd check out the reviews for Shelter on MAl and the top review is a 1/10. Apparently because it's a cute girl we sympathise with her more, which is bad because reasons. I mean.. what? MAL never ceases to amaze me
@Mario, no. It's more that the dialogue keeps trying to push out one liners or jokes regardless of whose talking.
@Aidan: maybe because they spoke in your native language do you can feel that it's artificial, ya know? I know I have the same problem with Vietnamese drama/ cartoon and maybe Japanese people have that same issues with anime?
By which I mean, the way characters talk in cartoons is very...artificial. Like you can tell that the dialgoue was clearly written beforehand and it never really sounds natural. At least to me.
@Anon, I wouldn't. The writing and structure are too cartoon. What with the episodic nature and dialogue that generally pushes for a comedic tone.
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Flanagan also directed absentia which I haven't seen yet but I think someone I came across of 4chan linked it to being lovecraftian?
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Oculus was a film of two halves for me. Hush was a pretty standard home invasion thriller, making the victim deaf was an interesting twist but not as unique as you might think, still suspenseful though.
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I never saw the first oujia film. Though Mike Flanagan who did the sequel, he's never made a bad movie but he's never really made a great one either.
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I stick to the firm belief that cartoons and anime, visually should do and be their own thing. I'll prefer a western artstyle for cartoons rather than one pretending to look like anime style.
But this is a good topic and I'm sure everyone has their own opinions so I'm looking to hear some more arguments
@anon352392: no they aren't. For me not because of where their production based, nor their intended audience, but rather their styles, both visually and storytelling-ly, are different
Anime,” they assert, is not a “style” of illustration or animation.
That's where I differ to those guys. For me, anime is a style. In that sense, I consider RWBY, and Canadian-produced short Flutter as an anime. Thunderbolt Fantasy is not and anime-influence shows/movies that are intented for Western audience like AniMatrix or Afro Samurai are anime
@Anon nah they wouldn't be because they aren't made by a japanese producer for the japanese market. Quality isn't the question, production is
NX and Red Dead Redemption 2 trailers tomorrow.
They are good series and i honestly like them alot more than most anime series, would their quality make them anime?
What about cartoons like Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces Of Evil?
In other news a sequel to an absolutely terrible horror movie called Ouija is out and it's...actually pretty good? Wondering if critics were paid off or it is legit good. Well it did have the guy who was behind Oculus and that was a pretty good movie.
Simplify the term down enough and anime is literally anything animated but the whole point of the term is to distinguish it. For to call Spongebob an anime makes me want to projectile vomit. Point is this, you say you watched a cartoon, people think Tom and jerry, Scooby doo etc. You say you watched an anime, people think Cowboy bebop, Attack on titan, etc. Whole point of the term.
For example, I don't consider Avatar or RWBY to be anime for while they use anime style, the writing is fundamentally structured like an American cartoon. Through I would consider Bloodivores an anime even though it was made by a Chinese animation company, making it technically a Chinese cartoon.
As far as what is and isn't anime I honestly think of the term as a means of distinguishing it from cartoon which gives the impression of being for children. It's like Graphic novel is to comic book. Though techically graphic novels are issues of comics bound in book form, the term Graphic novel is often used to distinguish works that go above superhero comics and whatnot.
Basically I think it was due to Porter Robinsons involvement that they didn't consider it anime.
@Aidan: Did the mods give any concrete reasons why they didn't consider it an anime?
@Mario, It wasn't the community that had the problem. It was the mods. The community made it pretty clear that they considered it anime.
So despite the art style is obviously anime, the character speaks in Japanese, and the production was animated by A1 Studios, it's not an anime? Sometimes I feel sad that the anime community keeps limiting themselves with such fixed minds.
I saw it yesterday and yes it was good. For a 5-minute story, they don't make it too overwhelme with details, and still pack an emotional punch. Moreover it elevates the song. Good stuffs.
Shelter was quite good though. It works well and the animation was beautiful. Song is not bad either. It's got a nice emotional punch to it though it's a bit simple a story.
Well anyway I only saw all this because I checked out the video for the first time and wanted to see how others thought of it with a quick scan through reddit. And I get this shitshow instead.
Playing the victim is the one really pisses off the internet. For refusing to admit you f*cked up only encourages people to shove how you f*cked up into your face. That's what really grinds peoples gears.
Yep, seen that too. The mods even put up another tread about the video and tried to guilt trip people by saying they got death threats. Look, internet rules 101. If you said or did something stupid admit to it and just walk away. Do not try to deflect blame or play the victim, that only adds fuel to the fire.
@Aidan oh yeah saw that live lol. Porter himself even commented on twitter about it, gotta love internet drama
So did anyone happen to catch the big old shitstorm of that Shelter music music when a mod of the Anime subreddit decided it wasn't "Anime" enough and removed the discussion post about it? Oh internet drama...what silly nonsense.
Finally caught up with JoJo. Diamond is Unbreakable has turned out to be much better than Stardust Crusaders. Should have waited for the season to finish through as I really loved marathoning it.
I had a feeling that might be the case considering the source materail for luger.
@Mario Oh I watched that, certinately worth it. Packed more story that some 12-episode shows do nowadays and gorgeous animation.
and I will check out "Shelter" music video to see what all the fuss is about
*this weekend to be exact.
Sounds like Luger Code 1951 is an OVA that will air next week, the same air date with "my" Zaregoto OVA.
@Mario: doesn't sound real at all to me lol
@Mario, I might be able to manage. If all else fails I can talk about the past of these historical figures.
While I don't mind watchinng Drifters, I swaer if I had to cover that show, I couldn't come up with anything to say.
Do you guys know what language the fairies speak in Drifters? It does sound like a genuine language
@topgavin: humanity has declined is a great show. It has good writing and dark, witty sense of humor. I could talk about it in length but psgels pretty much covered it all. He was really impressed by that show however.
That should be me covered till the weekend. Why do all my shows air on the weekend...
@Mario nah I've watched the whole thing but I'd heard about it at the start of this year and put it off. The dialogue between her and the fairies was great stuff, probably gonna rewatch it this weekend now that you mention it
Alright, I got three posts written up and will be throwing them out in about two hours or do.
I thought you've finished it. Yeah I love her character a lot, so cynical but witty. My favorite moment was when she read about fairy's plan to invent religions. She was like "so religions are invented?" (beat) "I've learn something new today". Priceless
@Mario Oh nice, it was one that I had heard about but never got round to. To put it in simple anime terms, Watashi is best girl
@topgavin: I just finished the series yo mentioned the other day: humanity is declined. Man, I love it. I know now I have a thing for dark twisted absurdist anime
@Ano340004: the name is Watashi ga Motete Dousunda, or to put it short Motete. I have fun with it but i'm not that enthuastic
@anon the english name is Kiss him, not me. Search through the first impressions if you need the jap name.
then that girl really loves BL (boy love)
what is the name of the anime that the girl is fat and then she got depressed because her favorite boy anime died then she got thin?
Season 7 is awesome so far too. It feels like the tone of the show is finally back to normal and it feels like Adventure Time again.
Whew, I binged all seasons of Adventure Time this weekend. The show hit a low spot in Season 6 but I think it needed to happen...Poor Finn needed the serious character development after what he did to FP.
You guys are too hard on it
Motete is very funny
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When it comes to gag manga and four-koma, I just eventually reach a stopping point with a comedy series in that format. Even with hidamari sketch.
I think it was typical light novel trash based on what was in the PV. I laughed that despite it being horrible that the crowd still cheered anyway, likely because it had a bath clip in it.
The PV was hilarious. I had no idea what the anime was about.
@Aidan I'm good, I'll stick with Working.
@K-Off, you could switch to something like Gi(a)rlish Number if you like. I for one am really digging the satire of the show. Plus I like that it's basically showing how an utter train-wreck of an anime can be made. That PV in the last episode was truly painful.
Feeling pretty disappointed with Working. I haven't gotten any more cynical with comedies, at least I don't think, and its flaws are so irritating.
@Adam Le, I find that with Comic book dialogue. Which is one of the reasons I have gone off marvel movies. Cartoons have it to a degree as well.
I love the instagram shots in Yuri
Maybe I can have a watch through those live action films and do a compare/contrast to see which version works better. After all movie and tv series are 2 different medium, and live-action vs animation is the topic that we never get tired of
speaking of which, the overlap between anime and live-action adaptation from manga is overwhelming. For this year alone, there were Erased, 3-gatsu no Lion, Fune o Amu, orange, and Chihayafuru (part 1&2). Those were just the ones I know.
@Adam: Don't know which genre you're into but you can try Fune o Amu (The Great Passage)
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I can't seem to get into any of these new shows. I don't know, the dialogue always seems off to me and the forced comedy is a big turn off.
Reminds me of a thought I had when I was last at the Getty art museum. People walking past works of art hundreds of years old, but only taking a second-long glance before moving on to the next one. Not their fault really, it's only the professional critics who can understand what they see with depth.
I'm the opposite really, they're getting paid for what they said so they better know their shits
Kaiser Eoghan
I suppose I'm slightly envious of professional critics somewhat.
Sometimes you're just meant to experience the ride you know. I don't watch those explained video anymore because after all it's just one guy's opinions.
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And I mean people who art professionals or students.
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I guess I'm just unsure of something, how many people watching "arty" stuff are able to pick it up on their own. By looking up an "explained video" or "explained essay" to get it, am I copping out?
Kaiser Eoghan
I feel like I've begun getting on board with the european art stuff but am really only scratching the surface with the Chinese and that stuff.
Kaiser Eoghan
And find myself missing whats going on sometimes.
Kaiser Eoghan
I'll admit I do find it frustrating, that even though I can like art films, emotionally connect at times, appreciate the visual techniques and admire them for being so different without looking up analysis by people far smarter than myself I honestly feel lost sometimes as to the meaning.
@Kaiser: Apichatphong Weerseethakul's films are so otherworldly and spiritual that I wouldn't dare to call them "dreams" anymore. Check out his "Uncle Boonmie", "Syndromes and a Century", "Cemetery of Splendors". he has such singular vision that just watch and experience his films are rewarding enough
@afgm: well, if we really go over-analyze it, bunnies can represent desire for example ^^
like eating sweet snow is so randomness for me
@Badesh: the things you said might be something I might do in the future. After all I love dissecting symbolism. But for Flip Flappers I need to know more what are intentional and what are randomness first
So Papika is corrupting Cocona? That would make some sense I guess
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