Posted by psgels on 28 January 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



Okay, so for those who missed it: I am not going to review Fumoffu because I don’t want to sit through a comedy I don’t enjoy. I do want to say a bit about why I didn’t like it, because the comedic moments of The Second Raid also turned me off for the same reason. For me, the creators took Sagara’s antics way over the top. In the first season he was a bright kid, who just had trouble adjusting in normal society. In the subsequent series, the creators try to make use of every light-hearted moment in order for him to do something outrageously stupid, only for Chidori to smack him in an over the top fashion. My biggest problem was that it wasn’t just not funny, but it also turned Sagara into an idiot and this plagues him throughout nearly the entire Second Raid.

As for the rest of this series… I’m really troubled judging it. During the middle part, I was really ready to label this series as superior to the first season. Even though Gonzo’s version of Sousuke was superior, Kyoani added a lot of extra things. The animation was far superior and the visual direction, and the small details within the storytelling were great to watch.

However, as the series drew near its finale, and Sousuke and especially his angst got more and more screentime… something just didn’t work for me. There was so much potential for this storyline and yet the creators waste so much time on Sousuke angsting over and over. It goes up to the point where his angst gets in the way of just about everything, preventing the minor characters from really shining.

And then came the ending. Seriously, what is it with Kyoani and Deus ex Machina endings? I’m trying not to spoil it, but the final episode was poorly built up, tried to do way too much character-development in way too little time, tried to wrap up its patiently built-up storyline way too fast. It felt way too convenient. A huge shame, considering how much potential there was in this series. It would even have been better if the creators just left a few more plotholes open, perhaps for a potential fourth season to address.

So yes. I may be the only one in this, but I actually enjoyed the Gonzo version more. With all the hype that surrounds it, I really expected something more from Kyoani’s version. It was undoubtedly more refined and superior in technical terms, but I just never liked Kyoani’s sense of humour, and this series misses the charms that made me enjoy the first season so much. This mostly is due to Sagara’s “derailment”, but also the villains themselves were surprisingly disappointing: none of them really matched the Gauron of the first season. They were all just too busy with their own quirks to really make an impact on me.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Excellent in technical terms; very creative, but the overall plot fails to make use of this potential.
Characters: 7/10 – Disappointing lead character and villains, though some of the side-characters have their moments of greatness.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Very highly detailed, very smooth animated. No complaints whatsoever.
Setting: 8/10 – Detailed military background forms a pretty solid base for this series to work with.

23 Responses

  1. specracer says:

    I’ve felt Chidori was the best character. Her increasing paranoia during the 1st part was great. I wish they would of stayed with Chidori more than Sousuke.

  2. Kim says:

    I am glad I am not the only person who didn’t think TSR was that great. Although looking back even the first season wasn’t perfect for me. I do like the characters of Sousuke and Chidori but I feel the mixture of dramatic action & romantic school age comedy don’t really mesh well. That’s just me though because obviously a lot of people love this franchise.

  3. Shinmaru says:

    I think the Gonzo version is better as well, although I admit to thinking Fumoffu? is superior to both. There’s just something about it that cracks me up. But, yeah, not much of a fan of TSR — just too much of the angst, as you write, and Gates is too cartoony a villain for me.

  4. I’m also a person who enjoy the first season of Full Metal Panic more than the two sequels.

    I also didn’t find Fumoffu very funny at all and can’t relate to how it’s consistently named by others as one of if not the funniest anime series of all time. I actually tried to review it once as well but just couldn’t get through it because it was rarely even the slighest bit funny to me no matter how hard it tried to shove it’s female on male slapstick gag “comedy” in my face in the same way as every other Kyoani series I’ve seen. By the way is that the only gag they know because it sure seems like it?

    I think it also needs to be said that Kyoani’s writers seriously seems to lack any idea of the concept of comedic timing/pacing and letting a joke or gag routine speak for itself if it is indeed funny. If a joke or gag needs to be explained, screamed or almost literally shoved in the viewers face it probably means it really isn’t all that funny and that they actually intend for the humour to be derived from it’s over the top delivery and the implication that what has just transpired is funny. If the viewer knows better and can see this then the humour doesn’t work plain and simple.

    Anyway I never thought I’d see another person that felt that TSR was weaker than the original as well let alone someone who’s reviews and tastes I regularly find hard to relate too. No offense meant.

    I felt that the first season’s advantage was that it had a better blend (and variety) of comedy (that didn’t need to be thrust upon the viewer nearly as often) and drama and that it also didn’t have the shortcoming of featuring a rehashed villain concept in Gates who in the long run is basically just crazy old Gauron all over again. It also had the advantage of being twice as long, thus giving the plotlines and characters a chance to grow on the viewer and also the chance to leave room for a nice little epilogue featuring Chidori and Sousuke enjoying a fishing date by the river where we can finally see that they’ve come to terms with their feelings for one another. In contrast TSR has that cheesy OVA featuring Tessa engaged in the pandering moeblob antics that Kyoto Animation has pretty much become infamous for abusing and that unfortunately happens to serve as the last instance of FMP being put to animation to date.

    As an addition I can’t help but feel that Kyoto Animation’s cult status these days plays a large part in why so many people seem to revere TSR and that Gonzo’s slow decay and eventual collapse is why people look upon the first season as some kind of utterly inferior failure. These sorts of things almost seem to have more of an influence on popular opinions than the actual content of the seasons themselves.

  5. Camario says:

    I actually like all three seasons myself but yes, Fumoffu isn’t the best comedy of all times or anything like that, which is what all the hype around the Internet makes it seem like.

    I thought Fumoffu was simply enjoyable enough and the character interactions were interesting to watch from time to time, but nothing incredibly original. That said, I can totally understand and respect your position.

    As for The Second Raid vs. the original series…it’s hard to say, because the angst didn’t bother me as much but I also thought the second season did need a better conclusion. The first season’s ending was easier to digest and didn’t feel too lacking. Once again though, we have to deal with the fact that this franchise was based on ongoing light novels and wasn’t an entirely original production. Apparently the author is writing the last volume at this time so hopefully we’ll see a fourth or even fifth season in the near future.

  6. Cheesyhoboe says:

    Wow. All these years, I’ve never seen or a met a single person besides me who prefers the original series to TSR, and today I’ve found a whopping total of 4.

  7. fox demon soavi says:

    I have to agree with your opinion 100% as I felt the same way. I didn’t midn htem being over the top for fomoffu since it was a side series but the second series it was just wtf.

  8. wakka9ca says:

    lol I found the first season to be better as well.

    Even though production value was higher, the Second Raid…. just didn’t have the same feel as the first season.

  9. HK-47 says:

    Count me in on the people who prefer the first season of TSR. I just hate it when a series concentrates way too much on characters going emo.

  10. Pax says:

    I can’t say i remember everything in detail about this one since i saw it a few years ago,but i definitely liked it a lot,also even if i do agree with your review, all those things did not bother me at all,not even the angst that i usually hate or the deus ex finale,i found the 2nd raid to be very entertaining.

    As for Fumoffu,i love it, i even rewatched it and it’s still incredibly funny, this is what a comedy should be like,most anime that are labeled as comedy are not really that funny, if i want to watch a comedy i would not choose an anime,sitcoms are way funnier,so far i have not found a comedy anime that manages to be as good as Seinfeld, Friends ,Curb Your Enthusiasm…

  11. kun says:

    Psgels, now that you said it, I don’t exactly remember any jokes in TSR so if you say that it is not funny, well, it might have been! But if you want to skip fumoffu because of it, somehow I’d feel that you might miss something big.

    Fumoffu is pure school life comedy that’s much funnier than the 1st season. When Sousuke declared his intention to still enroll in school (shouldn’t be a spoiler I guess, since everyone knows that there’s third season), well, fumoffu makes it shine. As usual, Sousuke have not adapted to the normal Japanese society yet. But now, with a lot of free times because Sousuke only part timing and don’t have to save the world using Arbalest all the time, he and Chidori instead use their spare time to do a lot of hilarious acts worthy of epic proportion. All episodes are stand-alone just like Doraemon and Gintama, and a great lot of them deliver more than expected. No mecha and definitely no emo; pure laughter.

    Psgels, and pretty much everyone else who has not watched fumoffu I guess, I think there’s a solution to whether you should decide to watch the full season of fumoffu. Try watching episode 7, titled “War Cry That Has Gone Too Far” / the rugby team. If you don’t find it funny, then I guess you made the right decision not to watch it. But you might want to check that first before deciding to skip the whole series.

    Best,

  12. Drask says:

    Actually the original series and the sequel TSR (forget Fumoffu) follow the novel plot. These two animes follow the novels fairy accurately so any weakness in the story comes the novels. I have read fan translations of the novels covering TSR and can say that there is very little difference between the novels and the anime.

  13. Greenthy says:

    wasn’t too fond of the action in s1, and mainly enjoyed the humor of the sidestories :)
    so fumoffu was like a present from heaven
    and TSR a drag :)

  14. Scamp says:

    FUMOFFU is nonsensical and that’s where its charm lies. However I can easilly see why one might not enjoy it.

    On the other hand, I’m delighted to see the amount of people that prefer the first season of FMP. What made FMP was how much fun it was to watch and TSR killed that entirely. I never really noticed the change in Sagara but now that you mention it, he did become even less socially competent in the second season

  15. shogun22 says:

    I actually enjoyed Fumoffu.
    I read that some of the stories here were actually based on FMP side stories(comedy) which were serialized in Dragon Magazine.

  16. lostty says:

    I really should watch FMP soon…

  17. Reltair says:

    Wow, you didn’t like Fumoffu? I found it to be quite amusing.

    The ending to the Second Raid was disappointing to say the least. I found the first season to be vastly superior.

  18. theone says:

    Funny thing is that I watched fummoffu first before I knew anything about the first two seasons and I found it hilarious!

    I think that it was because I knew NOTHING of the first series so maybe that helped lol

    I didnt like the first OR second season of fmp …

  19. zz says:

    Any series even the most successful will have its faults and harsh critics (death note, code geass, lucky start).

    Personally FMP is one of my top 5 if not 3.

    Generally it is a good franchise and recommendable solely because it sold well and was largely popular, while most of the negative views tend to be the minority (like I said even the best series can be criticized)

    Wont go any further as to why it was popular just still hoping that they will animate the rest of the light novels XD

  20. Immelman says:

    Wow. So I thought that everyone would prefer TSR over the Gonzo season, I find everyone thinking the contrary… It’s a shock. I prefer TSR, and I liked Fumoffu too (I liked the first season a lot too).
    First, I don’t understand why everyone is talking about the comedy in TSR. Except the first two episodes, there isn’t a single joke. TSR is quite a serious part of the FMP story. So we can’t really judge these episodes based on the comedy. For me, TSR is superior in the action. The first season had too many boring episodes; I concede that there are also twice more episodes.
    As for Sousuke, he is also much more interesting in TSR. He may have become angsty, but it is a new side of his character. I consider that this new feature makes Sousuke much more developped as a character. After all, he is teenager, and he never had his rebellious period; he begins to understand that he’s totally being exploited by Mythril, and that orders are not the only thing in life. He’s becoming a real man.
    TSR also develops a lot Chidori. As a reader said above, the episode where she becomes paranoiac is excellent.
    The villains were enjoyable; their quirks quite matched Gauron’s immovable smirk.
    As for the end, yeah, ok…

  21. The Sandman says:

    Anyone know if there is going to be a continuation to the series or is this the end?

  22. Ferdinand says:

    I disagree completely with the reviews. full metal panic original was boring as hell, especially at the second half between episode 15 to 20. i found every single episode in tsr is more entertaining and the action scene is far better than the first one. also Fmp Fumoffu is the best romantic comedy anime i have ever seen. i remembered laughing very hard in all episodes, of course i been watched another comedy anime too like school rumble, tora dora, ouran highschool, et. still fumoffu its the best.

  23. Anna-ime says:

    Reading this review made me expand about the thoughts I myself had when I recently finished TSR. Although the ending does leave a feeling of expectation, most of the TSR series wrapped up the first series and Fumoffu INCREDIBLY. Considering the amount of war scences in FMP and relief in Fumoffu, the creaters were finding a balance, in addition to building characters and showing the wathcers that “heart-breaking, heart-racing, and soul-searching” end of a series. It makes you consider a teenager who never experienced a life with emotion and choices until meeting Chidori. And Chidori, in response to those amazing paranoic scenes of TSR, learns to really embrace her emotions for Sousuke that (in my opinion) were not truly as powerful back in that fishing scene ending of FMP. I truly enjoyed the TSR series that led up to an end that, yes, made me want to scream, “SO DO YOU END UP BEING WITH CHIDORI OR NOT?!?!? TELL HER YOU LOVE HER, OR KISS HER, OR SOMETHING!!!!”, but also gave a sufficient ending to the end of the FMP trilogy (so far) that seemed to make me feel complete as well. If it had ended differently (like with a kiss, or a promise of some sort to always stand by her side), I might have felt that the Sousuke I love and the Chidori I adore have changed into the average anime teen couple I usually can’t stand. Overall, all 3 series were one of the best anime I have watched in a long time, and started with a beginning of many expectations and action, took a break of comedy relief to prevent the eye sore of only sad or violent or emotional scenes, and ended with a kind of conflict that kept you watching ’til the end. I loved them all, and can’t say that FMP, Fumoffu, or TSR are better than the other because they WORK TOGETHER hand in hand, but can still be enjoyed on their lonesome nonetheless.

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Honestly I really regret Meteora coming into the story when she's being pretty much a massive exposition device.
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It must be worse than oremo.
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As an anime example, sekaisuru kado has lots of dialogue but it seems like it could actually be engaging.
Kaiser-Eoghan
So basically no I don't think we're dumb for not liking sagrada reset, given that myself and Mario are capable of watching genuinely smart wordy things and getting them.
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@Mario: I can imagine watching Sagrada reset and thinking I'd rather be watching a Bergman film instead , something also with lots of dialogue and themes but actually engaging/clever and NOT pretentious or obnoxious about it.
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Ground*. I hate it when I fat finger something.
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@Mario, so it's still at it. To me it's like someone was given an interesting story and made it his mission to ruin it as much as possible.
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@Aidan: it's still the same crap. I have a feeling that Sagrada Reset gives a middle finger to us viewers. The plot with development and characters that we have no way to figure out ourselves. The characters who change motive and even personality after each timeline. The main lead girl who act like a robot. I gave this show too many chance so I won't bother to spend more time watching it.
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Eromanga sensei
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Sagrada Reset (long sigh) (scratching my head) (eyes rolling). Dropped
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Hey you.
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SuperMario
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SuperMario
*no real urge
SuperMario
I've finally catch up with all other series I wanna follow this season. Alice & Zorouku will be off my list for now, Zorouko is a great character but everything else falls flat so far. I have real urge to continue Attack on Titan and Berserk so I'll wait until they're finished.
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Kaiser-Eoghan
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SuperMario
Flying witch have the same atmosphere, but it's a purely slice of life anime. I love Aria too and I agree that watching it 1 episode a time is the best way to enjoy it. Can't think of other serious anime that have those calming elements for now
Anonymous1042537
Yeah, I noticed they all have pretty different structures from one another (ACCA's political, Mushishi's naturalistic, Monster is a thriller, Rakugo's about a specific art form, 3-gatsu is ostensibly about Shogi, etc.) but I found that I found some similar calming elements in them (to different degrees of course).
Anonymous1042537
Thanks, I'll definitely check Aria out!
AidanAK47
One of the hardest shows to marathon besides Bakemonogatari. Though Bakomono gave me a headache after a few episodes whereas Aria just had me so mellow that I could drift into sleep at any second.
AidanAK47
Don't know if you could call it a sub genre as the examples you listed are all really different from each other.
Though in the vein of calming shows I think you can add the Aria series to the list. That show is so relaxing that you find yourself nodding off to it. Not out of boredom but it just has that effect on you.
Anonymous1042537
Do you guys know if there's a specific subgenre like this, or am I making it up? And are there other anime with that kind of feel. Not exactly slice of life, but in the general vicinity of it.
Anonymous1042537
The Great Passage was another great example. It delved into the seemingly boring subject matter of dictionary-making, but it was a surprisingly charming show. 3-Gatsu no Lion also looks promising, I enjoyed a lot of the first season (but wasn't a fan of the forced comedy sometimes).
Anonymous1042537
Like the episode where Tenma first meets Grimmer on the train to Prague and they have a picnic on the mountain was so dang good. I really need to rewatch that.
Anonymous1042537
There are some elements of that style in other shows too, but to a lesser extent. Like some parts of Rakguo (mainly season 1) was very soothing. Naoki Urasawa's Monster had some fantastic, almost melancholic episodes like this.
Anonymous1042537
It seems that most anime w/ that kind of style usually also have another genre mixed in. Mushishi was also very naturalistic, ACCA had a political underpinning.
Anonymous1042537
It's sort of in the vein of a "Mushishi" style show. I suspect it's an emerging subgenre of slice of life that's meant to be very calming, relaxing, atmospheric which I really am digging.
Anonymous1042537
I really hope there are more shows like it; not that it was perfect, but it was certainly unique and hit a lot more than it missed. I really like those cool, quiet shows you can enjoy with a nice cup of tea before you go to sleep.
Anonymous1042537
Ironically though, I would say that the first half of ACCA (up until the big flashback) is better enjoyed week by week, or at least that's what I found.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It felt good marathoning a show again rather than waiting week by week and next weekend I'll probably marathon house of five leaves.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Forgot to mention...there were certainly a share of moments in Acca that feel fanservish to the female audience =P
SuperMario
@Aidan: haven't noticed that. Will fix it soon.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Only problem I can see is that the posts have no spaces in between paragraphs.
SuperMario
... to be near my laptop for an entire week. First time that I had to blog entirely through my phone. Seemed to work out fine but I had to borrow screenshots from other source (I thank you that other source) ^^
SuperMario
*unless* rather than *as long as*. This has been a crazy week for me as I didn't have a chance
SuperMario
@anon1039488: I find the idea of limiting excess to exclusively stream an aime is a dumb idea; because as long as people have a chance to expose to the anime they won't really care to check it out. So I detest owning the legal streaming account, but I always pay back by buying DVDs/Blurays that I liked
SuperMario
I watched House of Five Leaves by the same mangaka and I really enjoyed it. Nataume Ono is a pretty excelent storyteller (a bit mixed on her art-style thou)
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I agree that the first dew episodes of ACCA were not that engaging but the endingg neatly tied up all loose ends. I still feel Grossular's act is kind of messy (why was he under such control from Lilium? He's not that kind to be in such passive role to be honest) but other than those I don't have any real complaints.
Anonymous1039488
Competition is good, but it makes it cost so much to legally watch everything. That's why a lot of people pirate I feel.
Anonymous1039488
You have Crunchryoll and Funi, fine. Then there's Daisuki which is kinda random. Then Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu all have some random anime, though it seems that mainly Amazon has current series
Anonymous1039488
I don't have Amazon Strike, which is like their new venture into anime I guess. There's too many streaming services to keep up with tbh
Kaiser-Eoghan
To be honest I'm pretty crap when it comes to supporting things, I don't pay for almost all the things I watch/read/play, I don't have a crunchy or amazon account, I still pirate legal streams.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Is it a case that your country is blocked? Maybe go for a vpn? If you absolutely have to you could pirate the show...
Anonymous1039488
I wanna watch Re:Creators but don't have Amazon... :( alas
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel like I need to wait and see approach with sekaisuru Kado...this prologue phase is...long...
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wish it had been 24 episodes long though to better organize itself.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Favourite characters were Jean, Groslur and Nino.
Can’t say I cared for the goofy interactions between Jean’s workfriends though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yet for whatever I could say about the pacing, when the twists happen they creep up on you and the show mostly lands every one of them, even if I’m not exactly pleased that sometimes the series does the “I pulled it out of the hat/ass” approach.
I’m relatively indifferent on the art/animation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I did feel it picks up, improves by the mid-mark and to an extent the wait is worth it and things do come together even if I wasn’t always totally confidant with how it was getting there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Having the protagonist go from district to district to flesh out the settings a decent enough idea and the main characters a fairly chill, cool guy.
Though the dialogue does create suspicion, intrigue, it does also plod/pad in equal measure at times.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Finally decided to sit down and watch Acca.
This show had its lovers/haters I’m sure, having watched it my feelings are mixed.
It is a slight breath of fresh air I’ll give it that and makes me want to maybe re-assess of adaptations of the author’s work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The only assayas film I've encountered so far that I disliked was Irma Vep, even though the lead actress was great, the surrounding performances, especially by Jean-Pierre-Lenaud were awful. Sils Maria I was initially evasive of because I'd heard that the relationship between Binoche and Stewarts characters was under-unexplored.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Weersathakul's films are something else entirely...Otherworldly yet still cinematic. I feel a bit underwhelmed after watching the Unknown girl. The identity of the culprit, for example, feel forced for me that take me out our their naturalistic style. I'mmin between Clouds of sils maria too, know it's a good movie but it feels pretentous at times, like the movie Youth
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I also got round to watching Unknown girl by Dardenne, it carries enough moments of their brilliance but I felt they didn’t have as much mastery over their usual pacing style this time round, for the first time it felt like a thriller that played out like a drama, rather than a drama that has a pseudo thriller feel to it.
Going to watch Clouds of sils Maria next.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The entire second half, which I’d have watched an entire film about is very atmospheric and dreamy/esoteric nearing just exactly the kind of thing I like.
The way he uses/shoots Thailands geography along with his cinematography is impressive, particularly in that second half.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: He shoots something simple like a chopping scene in a strangely engaging way, the scene with the old woman going into the cave is also very impressively shot and that one driving scenes with that pop song in the background has an airy feel to it.
In some ways I agree that there’s a bit of sensuality to it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It’s the kind of film that feeling tired/relaxed when watching it isn’t a condemnation of it(although a share of moments in the first half could be patience testing), it’s the sort of film where you aren’t really aware of anything outside of watching the film when you watch it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I finally looked into a Weersathakul film, Tropical Malady. I don’t even know how to give a star rating for this film.
SuperMario
I'm still on the fence with Alice & Zouroku. Like the title suggests, the warm chemistry between those two are its strongest point, but those moments are far and few in between as the story progresses and I don't care one bit about the Red Queen storyline. I might drop this one if the story doesn't improve
SuperMario
@Lenlo: 3 episodes anf Berserk still hasn't grabbed me as much. Yep facial expressions are really off-putting
Lenlo
Man... the facial expression in Berserk for the 3D models are, ever so slowly, killing me.
AidanAK47
Alright. Tommarrow I will get out all those posts I am late on seeing as the impressions are all finished.
AidanAK47
SukaSuka still has me mixed. On one hand there really are some great ideas and some well executed moments. But some of the dialogue is a bit typical of a light novel and the fanservice is really shameless. The massage at the end of the episode was something the show could really do without.
Konstantinos Travlos
I am in love with RE:Creators. I have no idea if they will keep it as good, but these two first episodes did all the right things.
AidanAK47
Alright, Easter made me lazy so it's time to play catch up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Puran: Or even Georgiou Nikolaidis while I'm at it, morning patrol is a great mood piece. Not familiar with the other guy.
Puran
@Kaiser: No Grammatikos recommendation? :)
SuperMario
I still enjoy Zero pretty much. I like the contrast between the beastfallen and Zero. The hilarious lines sound more like accidental to me, not the best product but I enjoy the ride so far
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree with everything you said. Apparently Haneke put Flashmob on hold because the main actress was conflicting in her schedule, so he decided to do Happy End instead
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Does the old man represent gritty anime of old? I don't know honestly I'm just throwing it out there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: In case you hadn't heard, Haneke dropped the Flashmob movie and is now doing one about the refugee crisis.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: To whoever will be playing Godard in that biopic, I'd wonder if they could capture how incredibly douchey he sounds irl lol
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: There is such a big divide between 50s/60s Bresson and 70s/80s Bresson.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Lathimos and Avaranas remind me in an odd way of Tarr in that they're the only Greek filmakers people seem to talk about , Check out Koundorous and Theodorous Angelopolous' works if you can.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Meh, I don't like that sort of overly on the nose social commentary some American films and tv shows do in recent years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Godards extremely hit or miss with me. Hazanavicius did the artist I think, but I'd sooner recommend Biancnieves as a stronger example of a modern take on silent cinema or maybe a Guy Maddin film.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Lotznitza directed a gentle creature not Zvyagintsev, though the latter is a fantastic director, Leviathan's ending hit me very very hard, its gut punching and I appreciated that the return never went into too much detail regarding the father.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: off topic, I didn't realize Get Out having such buzz reception. It's coming here next week so I will get to watch it
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Michel Hazanavicius makes a biopic about Jean-Luc Godard and Anne Wiazemsky (the actress in Au Hasard Balthazard), which I think will be interesting. I considered The Lobster one of the best film out of that year so I anticipate his next movie a hell lot. Yep, I watched few movies from Andrey Zvyagintsev and he certainly is in my radar. Bleak, social commentary, technical impressive
AidanAK47
Oh, it's confirmed that was what was actually said in Japanese. Well...that's rather cringe worthy.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Can't say I am too fond of it myself. Though that arrow to the knee reference definitely sounds like something the translator added in.
Anonymous1026829
Holy shit Zero is hilarious. "I used to be a mercenary like you once. But then I took an arrow to the knee." "My magic is super weak so I need a powerful offering. Can you loan me your head please?" The comedy is so pointed and understated.
Vonter
I do like how contrasting Zelda is to Nier in the sense that. Zelda cares more about how the game plays and making the player have fun constantly but doesn't care about telling something. Nier Automata doesn't care what it throws to the player but cares a lot about it tells the things that happen to player.
Vonter
I think this is a hard game to score. Mainly because IMO the combat has wear out a bit do to the repetition and the sidequests have been a mixed bag with some being relevant to the plot or themes and some being just fodder to level up. On the other hand the game has a lot of implications, subtext and symbolism that so far has been enriching to reflect upon.
AidanAK47
@Vonter, Actually wrote up 4/5s of a review on Nier Automata but with the new season I haven't had time to finish writing the review. Though my thoughts on it are similar to yours.
Vonter
Nier Automata has a 10+ hour prologue. So far the game feels like it's more interested in delivering strong emotions than a compelling narrative, not that script is poor but seems disjointed in a way, circling around the themes of existentialism, purpose and truth without overexpositing about these things. It also some moments remind me of Fragile Dreams. Like the despair.
AidanAK47
The old man is the one I can't pin down. Been thinking he might represent the kind of anime that's critically lauded but sadly unpopular. Makes sense as he's one of the few on the opening that doesn't stand near ads for his anime. Or else he's a live action drama representative.
AidanAK47
Been wondering about the Re:Creators characters. We got the obvious representatives from Magical girl, Mecha, Light novel and video game. The knight girl looks like clear homage to Saber from Fate so a Visual novel representive? The psycho girl looks to be a chunni anime representative. And the guy who appeared at the end of ep 2 is clearly Shounen.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The Ramsay one sticks out as the most interesting to me as does the lathimos one. I'm curious about that Russian one about the woman looking for her imprisoned husband as I'd like to watch more contempory Russian films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: If you can get passed the accents Ramsay did a strong piece of social realism in the 90s called Ratcatcher.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I think the only Baumbach film I've seen is Frances Ha and I liked the new wavey feel it had. With The lobster and re-watching dogtooth I was able to get into Lathimos' pitch black humour alot more. I've never actually seen a hong-sang so film.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, I still really enjoy it but I do get what you mean. Looking at the series overall so far it does feel like there was lost potential.
Amagi
I honestly still don't know what to think of LWA. I wasn't a fan of the formularic first half but the second half doesn't really catch me either. I loved the first OVA though.
AidanAK47
Well I will be damned. That G Koh commenter managed to predict the inclusion of Yggdrasil in Little Witch Academia. Nicely done.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: sadly i won't make it this year. I wanna try the Toronto International Film Fest next time whenever I have a chance
SuperMario
@Kaiser:you heard about this year's Cannes selection?Overall it's solid, not many that scream "masterpiece" for me.Overall I'm exciting for Hong Sang Soo's new movies (he has 2 movies screening at Cannes and 1 already aired at Berlin.What the hell),and The Killing of the Scared Deer(Yorgos Lnthimos), You were never really here (Lynne Ramsay),Okja(Bong Joon Ho) and Meyerowitz Stories(Noah Baubach)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm...just found out That Blame! 2017 is being done by a the Ajin director, not sure how I felt about that.
AidanAK47
Think this is the best time to end the series too as the difficultly was getting to be a bit too cheap.
AidanAK47
Lore wise it's pretty disappointing. Ending the game with an enemy that doesn't really have that much relevance. But Gameplay wise it was excellent. The final area was just beautiful.
Lenlo
Ringed City was a great piece of DLC and a good way to end the series imo.
AidanAK47
Dark souls sure can give you workout. Finally got around to finishing the ringed city DLC. Funny thing is that people were raving about how hard Midir was when I didn't have that much trouble with him. Gaol gave me some trouble but I managed it. Hardest was the demon prince and god I hate multi stage boss fights. Such a goddamn pain.
SuperMario
Atom still waiting for suitable subs. I swear to God, for a completist like myself the wait is unbearable, especially it should've been available already
HelghastKillzone
Yes it is.
Anonymous1020539
I mean...
Anonymous1020539
Re:producers is really great
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I can see myself chancing more of it, I kind of caught into its rhythm a bit.
AidanAK47
Novels are actually really short. About 90 pages long per volume. They really could cover this in a single cour.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, SukaSuka? From what I could tell it covered the first two chapters of the light novel. Each novel has 5 chapters. Though the first and last chapter are more of a prologue and epilogue respectively.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually if shuumatsu's first episode is going faster than the novel, roughly how much so? Its still obviously a slow burn in animated format but how much was covered in episode 1?
AidanAK47
Could have done without the huge infodump but otherwise still loving Re:Creators. Seeing a magical girl shocked over her own level of destructive power was great.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, I liked the use of music early on in shuumatsu and theres a good mood set up early on along with a good opening scene but the later parts of the episode except maybe for the after credits bit get a shrug from me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Kado has made its hook, now it needs not to keep holding its cards and get going.
SuperMario
hmmm, don't know what to think about Kado ep2. Still good but I expected more
SuperMario
But really my mentality is that this site comes first. Getting more traffic and improve the site are my top priorities, then "what I wanna do for myself" comes later
SuperMario
@Travlos: guess you won't have to read me this season :). Haven't checked out the last episode of Kado yet but based from the first 2 episodes I think you'd enjoy that show.
Don’t worry. It’s something Aidan and me both agree on. We pretty much write for ourselves, otherwise we couldn’t have stayed this long. I get a chance to go off track once in a while to write something I wanna write.
Konstantinos Travlos
@SuperMario. I am definitely watching Shingeki no Koyjin 2, Shingeki no Bahamut 2, Re:Creators, Little Witch Academia, and probably Kado and Zero Kara. I may also do Zipang this season.
On the reaction reaction. What you say is ok. But remember, a hobby is something you do for yourself. There is a limit to how much you should care about the views of others. :)
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Or if I can use a quote from Chang from Black lagoon : "A fragranced shit will forever still retain the smell of shit"
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