Posted by psgels on 28 January 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



Okay, so for those who missed it: I am not going to review Fumoffu because I don’t want to sit through a comedy I don’t enjoy. I do want to say a bit about why I didn’t like it, because the comedic moments of The Second Raid also turned me off for the same reason. For me, the creators took Sagara’s antics way over the top. In the first season he was a bright kid, who just had trouble adjusting in normal society. In the subsequent series, the creators try to make use of every light-hearted moment in order for him to do something outrageously stupid, only for Chidori to smack him in an over the top fashion. My biggest problem was that it wasn’t just not funny, but it also turned Sagara into an idiot and this plagues him throughout nearly the entire Second Raid.

As for the rest of this series… I’m really troubled judging it. During the middle part, I was really ready to label this series as superior to the first season. Even though Gonzo’s version of Sousuke was superior, Kyoani added a lot of extra things. The animation was far superior and the visual direction, and the small details within the storytelling were great to watch.

However, as the series drew near its finale, and Sousuke and especially his angst got more and more screentime… something just didn’t work for me. There was so much potential for this storyline and yet the creators waste so much time on Sousuke angsting over and over. It goes up to the point where his angst gets in the way of just about everything, preventing the minor characters from really shining.

And then came the ending. Seriously, what is it with Kyoani and Deus ex Machina endings? I’m trying not to spoil it, but the final episode was poorly built up, tried to do way too much character-development in way too little time, tried to wrap up its patiently built-up storyline way too fast. It felt way too convenient. A huge shame, considering how much potential there was in this series. It would even have been better if the creators just left a few more plotholes open, perhaps for a potential fourth season to address.

So yes. I may be the only one in this, but I actually enjoyed the Gonzo version more. With all the hype that surrounds it, I really expected something more from Kyoani’s version. It was undoubtedly more refined and superior in technical terms, but I just never liked Kyoani’s sense of humour, and this series misses the charms that made me enjoy the first season so much. This mostly is due to Sagara’s “derailment”, but also the villains themselves were surprisingly disappointing: none of them really matched the Gauron of the first season. They were all just too busy with their own quirks to really make an impact on me.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Excellent in technical terms; very creative, but the overall plot fails to make use of this potential.
Characters: 7/10 – Disappointing lead character and villains, though some of the side-characters have their moments of greatness.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Very highly detailed, very smooth animated. No complaints whatsoever.
Setting: 8/10 – Detailed military background forms a pretty solid base for this series to work with.

23 Responses

  1. specracer says:

    I’ve felt Chidori was the best character. Her increasing paranoia during the 1st part was great. I wish they would of stayed with Chidori more than Sousuke.

  2. Kim says:

    I am glad I am not the only person who didn’t think TSR was that great. Although looking back even the first season wasn’t perfect for me. I do like the characters of Sousuke and Chidori but I feel the mixture of dramatic action & romantic school age comedy don’t really mesh well. That’s just me though because obviously a lot of people love this franchise.

  3. Shinmaru says:

    I think the Gonzo version is better as well, although I admit to thinking Fumoffu? is superior to both. There’s just something about it that cracks me up. But, yeah, not much of a fan of TSR — just too much of the angst, as you write, and Gates is too cartoony a villain for me.

  4. I’m also a person who enjoy the first season of Full Metal Panic more than the two sequels.

    I also didn’t find Fumoffu very funny at all and can’t relate to how it’s consistently named by others as one of if not the funniest anime series of all time. I actually tried to review it once as well but just couldn’t get through it because it was rarely even the slighest bit funny to me no matter how hard it tried to shove it’s female on male slapstick gag “comedy” in my face in the same way as every other Kyoani series I’ve seen. By the way is that the only gag they know because it sure seems like it?

    I think it also needs to be said that Kyoani’s writers seriously seems to lack any idea of the concept of comedic timing/pacing and letting a joke or gag routine speak for itself if it is indeed funny. If a joke or gag needs to be explained, screamed or almost literally shoved in the viewers face it probably means it really isn’t all that funny and that they actually intend for the humour to be derived from it’s over the top delivery and the implication that what has just transpired is funny. If the viewer knows better and can see this then the humour doesn’t work plain and simple.

    Anyway I never thought I’d see another person that felt that TSR was weaker than the original as well let alone someone who’s reviews and tastes I regularly find hard to relate too. No offense meant.

    I felt that the first season’s advantage was that it had a better blend (and variety) of comedy (that didn’t need to be thrust upon the viewer nearly as often) and drama and that it also didn’t have the shortcoming of featuring a rehashed villain concept in Gates who in the long run is basically just crazy old Gauron all over again. It also had the advantage of being twice as long, thus giving the plotlines and characters a chance to grow on the viewer and also the chance to leave room for a nice little epilogue featuring Chidori and Sousuke enjoying a fishing date by the river where we can finally see that they’ve come to terms with their feelings for one another. In contrast TSR has that cheesy OVA featuring Tessa engaged in the pandering moeblob antics that Kyoto Animation has pretty much become infamous for abusing and that unfortunately happens to serve as the last instance of FMP being put to animation to date.

    As an addition I can’t help but feel that Kyoto Animation’s cult status these days plays a large part in why so many people seem to revere TSR and that Gonzo’s slow decay and eventual collapse is why people look upon the first season as some kind of utterly inferior failure. These sorts of things almost seem to have more of an influence on popular opinions than the actual content of the seasons themselves.

  5. Camario says:

    I actually like all three seasons myself but yes, Fumoffu isn’t the best comedy of all times or anything like that, which is what all the hype around the Internet makes it seem like.

    I thought Fumoffu was simply enjoyable enough and the character interactions were interesting to watch from time to time, but nothing incredibly original. That said, I can totally understand and respect your position.

    As for The Second Raid vs. the original series…it’s hard to say, because the angst didn’t bother me as much but I also thought the second season did need a better conclusion. The first season’s ending was easier to digest and didn’t feel too lacking. Once again though, we have to deal with the fact that this franchise was based on ongoing light novels and wasn’t an entirely original production. Apparently the author is writing the last volume at this time so hopefully we’ll see a fourth or even fifth season in the near future.

  6. Cheesyhoboe says:

    Wow. All these years, I’ve never seen or a met a single person besides me who prefers the original series to TSR, and today I’ve found a whopping total of 4.

  7. fox demon soavi says:

    I have to agree with your opinion 100% as I felt the same way. I didn’t midn htem being over the top for fomoffu since it was a side series but the second series it was just wtf.

  8. wakka9ca says:

    lol I found the first season to be better as well.

    Even though production value was higher, the Second Raid…. just didn’t have the same feel as the first season.

  9. HK-47 says:

    Count me in on the people who prefer the first season of TSR. I just hate it when a series concentrates way too much on characters going emo.

  10. Pax says:

    I can’t say i remember everything in detail about this one since i saw it a few years ago,but i definitely liked it a lot,also even if i do agree with your review, all those things did not bother me at all,not even the angst that i usually hate or the deus ex finale,i found the 2nd raid to be very entertaining.

    As for Fumoffu,i love it, i even rewatched it and it’s still incredibly funny, this is what a comedy should be like,most anime that are labeled as comedy are not really that funny, if i want to watch a comedy i would not choose an anime,sitcoms are way funnier,so far i have not found a comedy anime that manages to be as good as Seinfeld, Friends ,Curb Your Enthusiasm…

  11. kun says:

    Psgels, now that you said it, I don’t exactly remember any jokes in TSR so if you say that it is not funny, well, it might have been! But if you want to skip fumoffu because of it, somehow I’d feel that you might miss something big.

    Fumoffu is pure school life comedy that’s much funnier than the 1st season. When Sousuke declared his intention to still enroll in school (shouldn’t be a spoiler I guess, since everyone knows that there’s third season), well, fumoffu makes it shine. As usual, Sousuke have not adapted to the normal Japanese society yet. But now, with a lot of free times because Sousuke only part timing and don’t have to save the world using Arbalest all the time, he and Chidori instead use their spare time to do a lot of hilarious acts worthy of epic proportion. All episodes are stand-alone just like Doraemon and Gintama, and a great lot of them deliver more than expected. No mecha and definitely no emo; pure laughter.

    Psgels, and pretty much everyone else who has not watched fumoffu I guess, I think there’s a solution to whether you should decide to watch the full season of fumoffu. Try watching episode 7, titled “War Cry That Has Gone Too Far” / the rugby team. If you don’t find it funny, then I guess you made the right decision not to watch it. But you might want to check that first before deciding to skip the whole series.

    Best,

  12. Drask says:

    Actually the original series and the sequel TSR (forget Fumoffu) follow the novel plot. These two animes follow the novels fairy accurately so any weakness in the story comes the novels. I have read fan translations of the novels covering TSR and can say that there is very little difference between the novels and the anime.

  13. Greenthy says:

    wasn’t too fond of the action in s1, and mainly enjoyed the humor of the sidestories :)
    so fumoffu was like a present from heaven
    and TSR a drag :)

  14. Scamp says:

    FUMOFFU is nonsensical and that’s where its charm lies. However I can easilly see why one might not enjoy it.

    On the other hand, I’m delighted to see the amount of people that prefer the first season of FMP. What made FMP was how much fun it was to watch and TSR killed that entirely. I never really noticed the change in Sagara but now that you mention it, he did become even less socially competent in the second season

  15. shogun22 says:

    I actually enjoyed Fumoffu.
    I read that some of the stories here were actually based on FMP side stories(comedy) which were serialized in Dragon Magazine.

  16. lostty says:

    I really should watch FMP soon…

  17. Reltair says:

    Wow, you didn’t like Fumoffu? I found it to be quite amusing.

    The ending to the Second Raid was disappointing to say the least. I found the first season to be vastly superior.

  18. theone says:

    Funny thing is that I watched fummoffu first before I knew anything about the first two seasons and I found it hilarious!

    I think that it was because I knew NOTHING of the first series so maybe that helped lol

    I didnt like the first OR second season of fmp …

  19. zz says:

    Any series even the most successful will have its faults and harsh critics (death note, code geass, lucky start).

    Personally FMP is one of my top 5 if not 3.

    Generally it is a good franchise and recommendable solely because it sold well and was largely popular, while most of the negative views tend to be the minority (like I said even the best series can be criticized)

    Wont go any further as to why it was popular just still hoping that they will animate the rest of the light novels XD

  20. Immelman says:

    Wow. So I thought that everyone would prefer TSR over the Gonzo season, I find everyone thinking the contrary… It’s a shock. I prefer TSR, and I liked Fumoffu too (I liked the first season a lot too).
    First, I don’t understand why everyone is talking about the comedy in TSR. Except the first two episodes, there isn’t a single joke. TSR is quite a serious part of the FMP story. So we can’t really judge these episodes based on the comedy. For me, TSR is superior in the action. The first season had too many boring episodes; I concede that there are also twice more episodes.
    As for Sousuke, he is also much more interesting in TSR. He may have become angsty, but it is a new side of his character. I consider that this new feature makes Sousuke much more developped as a character. After all, he is teenager, and he never had his rebellious period; he begins to understand that he’s totally being exploited by Mythril, and that orders are not the only thing in life. He’s becoming a real man.
    TSR also develops a lot Chidori. As a reader said above, the episode where she becomes paranoiac is excellent.
    The villains were enjoyable; their quirks quite matched Gauron’s immovable smirk.
    As for the end, yeah, ok…

  21. The Sandman says:

    Anyone know if there is going to be a continuation to the series or is this the end?

  22. Ferdinand says:

    I disagree completely with the reviews. full metal panic original was boring as hell, especially at the second half between episode 15 to 20. i found every single episode in tsr is more entertaining and the action scene is far better than the first one. also Fmp Fumoffu is the best romantic comedy anime i have ever seen. i remembered laughing very hard in all episodes, of course i been watched another comedy anime too like school rumble, tora dora, ouran highschool, et. still fumoffu its the best.

  23. Anna-ime says:

    Reading this review made me expand about the thoughts I myself had when I recently finished TSR. Although the ending does leave a feeling of expectation, most of the TSR series wrapped up the first series and Fumoffu INCREDIBLY. Considering the amount of war scences in FMP and relief in Fumoffu, the creaters were finding a balance, in addition to building characters and showing the wathcers that “heart-breaking, heart-racing, and soul-searching” end of a series. It makes you consider a teenager who never experienced a life with emotion and choices until meeting Chidori. And Chidori, in response to those amazing paranoic scenes of TSR, learns to really embrace her emotions for Sousuke that (in my opinion) were not truly as powerful back in that fishing scene ending of FMP. I truly enjoyed the TSR series that led up to an end that, yes, made me want to scream, “SO DO YOU END UP BEING WITH CHIDORI OR NOT?!?!? TELL HER YOU LOVE HER, OR KISS HER, OR SOMETHING!!!!”, but also gave a sufficient ending to the end of the FMP trilogy (so far) that seemed to make me feel complete as well. If it had ended differently (like with a kiss, or a promise of some sort to always stand by her side), I might have felt that the Sousuke I love and the Chidori I adore have changed into the average anime teen couple I usually can’t stand. Overall, all 3 series were one of the best anime I have watched in a long time, and started with a beginning of many expectations and action, took a break of comedy relief to prevent the eye sore of only sad or violent or emotional scenes, and ended with a kind of conflict that kept you watching ’til the end. I loved them all, and can’t say that FMP, Fumoffu, or TSR are better than the other because they WORK TOGETHER hand in hand, but can still be enjoyed on their lonesome nonetheless.

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@K-Off: Disney Tokyo? haha If it was me I've chosen somewhere more... locally. But who I am to judge as I celebrated last New Year Eve in Times Square, the most tourist spot of them all. But I really hope you can spend some time to go to some shrines for the New Year in Tokyo.
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@Mario The person I'm travelling with wants to spend Christmas at Disney Tokyo, and unsurprisingly nearly all places will still be open, same as NYC. Christ, I'm more worried about my wallet.
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@K-Off: Makes sense. I'd say better stick in one place for long days rather than short trips in several places. Even 10 days for those 2 places wouldn't be enough imo, well especially during Xmas since the streets will be busy and many places could be closed (I guess?)
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@Mario It doesn't seem like I'll go to Osaka, the goal is to explore Kyoto and Tokyo and much as possible for a week and a half. If I can squeeze it in there I will, but that means spending less time in Kyoto and/or Tokyo. The bulk of my trip will be in Tokyo for now.
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Yeah, Kenshin had a whole Kyoto act, but it was more historical anw and I feel it didn't explore the city that much (more of a ruined city)
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@Kaiser Sure, the story doesn't do anything for me but it's not a waste of time.
@K-Off You can do pretty much anything in Tokyo I'll bet. Anime in general aside from shows like Durarara don't emphasize the setting very much... Kyoto is more interesting, rurouni kenshin is the first thing that comes to mind.
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uchouten kazoku is a really good one set in kyoto!
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Haven't heard of it. Anyways, do you guys have any suggestions for favorite anime series set in Kyoto or Tokyo? I'm planning my itinerary and the idea is to take a lot of side by side comparison pictures from their anime depictions to RL. I have YuruYuri, SYD, Detective Conan, and various KyoAni spots in mind, but my brain isn't remembering others.
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So Rewrite took the "Bad End" route. Interesting. Their choice, not the show of course which was a freaking mess from start to finish.
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Congrats K-Off. Hope you enjoy the trip. I myself originally planned to go to US on this December but now the plan got wrecked. Should be fun spending Xmas in Japan especially
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Got my international drivers permit from AAA today, and it also looks like I'm stuck with over half the travel fees since I've signed myself off the agency plan. It's now official, I'm going to Seoul and then spending my christmas holidays in Tokyo. Been a long time since I left the country, last time was in 2011.
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oh, talking about teenage horror female movie, make sure to check out Raw whenever its available online. That is one hell of a fun cannibal ride!
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my point is we tend to spend our stupid 20s phase feel like its wasted, but really it does help develop our hobby/sense/wisdom, whatever it is.
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I find myself now that I've grown up wanting to punch kid characters from horror films lol
Kaiser Eoghan
About the watching stories with younger female characters...its starting to feel like I shouldn't be or that it doesn't feel appropriate, actually sort of awkward/skeevy.
SuperMario
True enough. But remember that even Quentin Tarantino had his 20s basically just a movie-clerk, watched movies like a maniac and he made that classic Pulp Fiction when he was like 33
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Looking back It feels dickish that I laughed reading NHK.
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I mean look at Re-life, I mean ow, everyone went through that.
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I think we'll find that stage where we'll get irritated by stories reminding us of our stupid 20s phases eventually just as some teenage focused anime/manga annoyingly remind us of being teens.
Kaiser Eoghan
In terms of anime/manga, much as I'd still see myself liking NHK I could see myself getting more frustrated with the lead character now being in my early 30s.
Kaiser Eoghan
In the past year I've been looking at hentai/ecchi imageboards not as often as I used to.
Kaiser Eoghan
Judy Delphy and Juliette Binoche have aged surprisingly well...
Ah its less fancying/finding them attractive, moreso taking notice of them.
SuperMario
I can understand the others but Meryl Streep too? Man, you're aging I can tell
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Julianne Moore, Isabelle Huppert, Meryl Sreep, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: like whom if I may ask?
SuperMario
But I'm always interested in women issues myself so Mustang just hit me hard
Kaiser Eoghan
Its a sign of me aging I guess too. I'm noticing older actresses too now where I wouldn't have in the past.
SuperMario
Looking forward to Under the Shadow too, also really keen to see how The Bad Batch would turn out to be
SuperMario
Strangely I've become more engaged with teen, coming-of-age films recently (well, Aku no Hana is sort of teen drama as well),but yes, old man's psyche is my thing too
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Synecdoche, the passenger, winter light, anomalisa , wild strawberries , la notte for example.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: The day is coming where drama centred around twentyboppers won't have the same level of effect on me. Had I seen buffalo 66 5 years ago I would have been all over it. Old man/middle age angst is becoming more my thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm honestly having a harder time getting into films that focus on young girls/teenagers.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Theres only a few upcoming films left I'm looking forward to, Elle, Valley violence, whispering star and under the shadow.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I appreciate mustang for the issue it deals with and addresses but I felt it predictable and the drama didn't hit harshly enough. It feels like an academy/oscars film.
SuperMario
Kaiser: remember I mention about watching those 96 Cannes line-ups? I think I will get to watch them soon, since I downloaded all the movies already
SuperMario
@Kaiser: btw, you hated Mustang? It's also one of my favorite film so far.
SuperMario
but maybe think of it that way will make the manga more entertaining...
SuperMario
You see Aku no Hana as a dark comedy? haha I'm speechless
Kaiser Eoghan
Like you Mario I don't care for heavy infodumping and that took me out of the new world.
Kaiser Eoghan
Bebop had that problem for me in that I saw outlaw star and trigun first.
Kaiser Eoghan
I still feel aku no hana is a guilty pleasure manga, a crazy dark comedy or maybe thats just my humour.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hataraku had me laughing up to episode 7, while Amagi felt stale from the start.
Looking back on Baccano I still like Claire and Russo but the other characters not so much, the main series is enjoyable enough but the extra episodes hold back the score.
I've never watched Habane straight through although I have finished the series. Ghost vs ergo? Ergos final episode wrecked the show.
Topgavin
I thing Hataraku was a lot more consistent, but Amagi had some standout episodes. For me the OVA, the pirate ship episode and the school episode were great. "Simply put, we have to go lewder" is one of my fav quotes
K-Off
How was that by the way? I never bothered to watch Amagi Brilliant Park all the way through because I felt so cynical about it after the first two episodes. Hataraku Mao Sama on the other hand was genuinely refreshing for the first half of the season.
SuperMario
In other news, The Eccentric Family is getting 2nd season. Now I'm filled with joy
SuperMario
Still feel bad to compare an 1-cour series (Baccano) to an 4-cours one. But in this case Baccano would take my cake.
Topgavin
I reckon The Devil is a Part Timer vs Amagi Brilliant Park would be a fun one, and I wouldn't know which would win.
AidanAK47
Baccano vs Durarara might make a good matchup. Baccano is the better one but Durarara does seem to be more popular.
Syndrome
Yeah it is a bit obvious and they dont share much in common anyway. Just that they are two of the most well known anime out there. I enjoyed NGE more than Cowboy Bebop, but I agree on the later beeing overall a better anime.
AidanAK47
Oh look. Berserks Manga is on Haitus again. Muira...just..at this point I ain't even mad. Just disappointed.
SuperMario
Well, new post on Flowers of Evil is out. Come eat it up.
SuperMario
@Syndrome: was thinking about that match-up (NGE vs Cowboy Bebop) but isn't it too obvious? I always intend to pick something that caught you guys off-guard haha
AidanAK47
@Syndrome, no contest. Cowboy Bebop wins outright.
Syndrome
On a serious note, for related anime, I would be curious about something like Ergo Proxy against Ghost in the Shell
Syndrome
Go for NGE vs Cowboy Bebop and watch the world burn
SuperMario
Yeah, I agree it's one of the main factors, but even so From the New World had a higher grade too. But I wouldn't pick Haibane Renmei against From the New World if I didn't think it had a chance to win. Those who loved the former really loved it, while people more appreciate From the New World than actually love it. Well, can't beat the consensus I guess.
Topgavin
I'd say a major reason for that would be the popularity difference. On MAL, Haibane has a following of 110k people, with FTNW having 270k.
SuperMario
I'm personally quite disappointed with the results. Will try harder for a more competitive match-up next time
AidanAK47
@Mario, if you say so. I say by now the victor has been decided.
SuperMario
@Aidan: we don't need to sticky the Versus Show again, as I will put up the Aku no Hana post tomorrow anyway
AidanAK47
Yeah the brightness got a bit much in some places after episode 18.
Topgavin
I thought the brightness was done well in the episode with Rem sitting beside Subaru's bed and her smiling/crying, but yeah this was too much
SuperMario
@anon125687: my thought exactly. While I was watching it I thought to myself that it's too bright!!
Anonymous125687
Why do final episodes overdo the blur effect and fuzzy lighting its literally over dramatic cancer. Just let it end normally ffs
afgm
Well, it's hard, since it doesn't really feel finished, so even if you know it will eventually end well if given a chance, you can't really put your full confidence behind those bets
AidanAK47
Got a bit long winded in that review and yet I feel like I really didn't get across what makes the series so good.
AidanAK47
Well that's the Re:Zero review written up. I will get to work on 91 days next and maybe Prisms Illya maybe after that. Lost all entuasim after they messed up that last episode in Illya. Overall it's been pretty disappointing.
AidanAK47
As for that twist. I think they could work it easily into a first episode. The impact would still be there for people marathoning the thing in the future and it would be a good "Oh Shit!" moment to start the second season. If they jump ahead a bit to a certain moment it would actually make for a great opener.
AidanAK47
I say the only chance of season two not coming would be if White Fox doesn't like money. Considering that the pace which the light novel adaption has sped up from every few months to a release every month I guess that they want to make that second season as badly as we want it. At this pace they could start a second season in maybe a years time. Maybe every half a year depending on cour length.
Syndrome
Also, if season 2 ever come (that would be a surprise if not, and truly annoying), I dont know how they will manage with the "twist", as something this impactful would come way too fast without any kind of setup. Wait and see, I guess.
Syndrome
After seeing the last Re:Zero I couldnt help but spoil myself, and I kind of understand why WhiteFox went with that kind of ending, skipping what would be a giant shtstorm on the internet. Even though, in a sad world where there would be no season 2, Im still a bit disappointed with the ending. Its nice to wrap it up this way but its a stale regarding the plot and there is no food for thought.
SuperMario
@aidan: you sure are fast when it comes to Re:Zero haha. Alrighty, we'll go with that then
AidanAK47
@mario,I am putting up a Re:Zero post. Tommarrow. I will unsticky it for a day and then we can sticky it again.
reaLjustified
@K-Off No worries, it's so messed up. Stay safe.
SuperMario
@Aidan: if you going to post Re:Zero review soon, you can unsticky the Versus Show post, otherwise I will take it down in 2 days
SuperMario
@K-Off: I feel for ya. Glad that there were only minor injuries. I heard a blogger claimed that he did it because of the gay rights. Sound bullsh*t to me
K-Off
Shit ton of manga have gotten updates but I don't feel like talking about them for a while, lost my appetite.
K-Off
@Kaiser Living in NYC all my life I remember 9/11, flight 587 crash in Queens, the Hudson River water landing, and now this.
AidanAK47
So far it seems most of the people calling it disappointing are those who know whats comes after that last scene and were looking forward to how the fanbase reacts to it. But it would have been a pretty terrible as well as evil way to end the series.
Topgavin
Yeah, I thought it gave enough closure for us to be satisfied yet still desperately wanting the next season.
AidanAK47
@Anon120947, I really don't see what's so disappointing about it. I thought it was a pretty solid way to end the series.
Kaiser Eoghan
I think at most the worst thing that happened in my area was two conmen going around and an gangster attack on a nearby hotel.
Kaiser Eoghan
@K-off: Honestly, glad to hear you're safe. And having a bomb go off nearby would make me feel paranoid.
@Anon: I'm waiting, waiting for reviews written after the show ends.
Anonymous120947
Feels like it has been done this way in case of a never happening season 2... to kind of close it.
Anonymous120947
Wow, that last episode of Re:Zero was pure straight disapointment... finishing like this feels is real suffering.
K-Off
Well, we don't know yet. We don't know who did it, if it was connected to the pipe bomb explosion in jersey, etc. But the second device found on 27th street does seem to point the situation towards terrorism.
afgm
Luckily it doesn't seem to be a terror attack
K-Off
Yeah. I was a good 8 blocks away inside a restaurant so I didn't even know until later. It must have been a pretty small bomb since all the injured have apparently already been released from the hospital.
AidanAK47
Damn. Just looked it up. Good thing you weren't at the area when the bomb went off.
K-Off
Fucking hell, transit is so congested I still can't get home. Luckily it seems like there's no fatalities according to the initial reports, there are still a shit ton of people around central for shelter. I didn't hear or feel the explosion at chelsea, and currently I'm at lenox with my bicycle. So congested it looks like I'm going to have to walk my bike a few more miles before I get picked up. L
AidanAK47
Watched The Empire of Corpses. I makes me sad to see a great idea be turned into such a mediocre movie. I think this concept could have been put to much better use but instead it decided to go with the blandest option.
SuperMario
The guy who will direct it is a live-action director who only had Psycho Pass the Movie (not a good one) as an anime director. WTH? Don't know what to think about this new FLCL now
SuperMario
and it will be co-produced by Adult Swim on top of that?
SuperMario
How comes I just noticed this old news that FLCL will get two-seasons sequel...
Masky
And by that I mean "Huh, haven't checked the blog for two days"
Masky
Yay commenting on two days old blog posts
AidanAK47
Finished rewatching Re:Zero and now ready for the finale. Let's see how this goes.
AidanAK47
I will be mourning the now dead hope of a somewhat decent Berserk adaption.
The last few episodes were not bad but purely on the merits of the source material and not the adaption.
SuperMario
@Bam: I'll be mourning indeed.
@Anon 112098: I haven't watched Chef, but it has more to do with me not interested in chef's life whatsoever. Is it good?
Bam
I'm out of town until Sunday evening. The Berserk finale post will hopefully be up early Monday mourning, followed by the overall cour review a bit later in the week.
Anonymous112098
Habe u seen Chef with John Favreau?
AidanAK47
I am quite upset with how Sliver link handled that scene. It was the one scene I wanted done right. Just that one scene...and they screwed it up.
SuperMario
He scored the Prince of Egypt? I didn't know that, but yeah I remember it had a great score. Also "When you believe"
K-Off
Well, a lot of his earlier work is just brilliant. Prince of Egypt in my opinion is his greatest work.
SuperMario
*nothing wrong
SuperMario
Well, Hans Zimmer could do nothing really; but that's a reason why I have a bit of problem with his scores. Everything he made are solid but ultimately sound the same to me.
SuperMario
Agree that the music has been excellent. Not only the soundtrack thou, but the sound editting in general is great (that ringtone during the Great Whale for example).
AidanAK47
@Mario, Understandable. As much as I love this show, I admit that it has elements I am sure could turn off people.
Also I really should have talked about the music in this series more. It really is a phenomenal soundtrack. I hear they were going with a more cinematic approach to it with Hans Zimmer being a primary inspiration.
SuperMario
@Aidan: it has been a fun ride, I'm glad I stick with it till the end; although I'm not as enthusiastic about it as you are. :)
AidanAK47
Re-watching Re:Zero in preparation for the finale. Still is awesome a second time through. In fact the middle part of the series I felt dragged fairs a whole lot better when marathoned though. Noticing a number of things watching the second time. For one Roswell has a really goddamn annoying way of talking. I say I will be giving this on a very favorable review.
Anonymous110962
Hugh Mungus
AidanAK47
@TopGavin, I haven't watched it yet but I hope what you said about the animation isn't too bad because this is where they need to be on top of their game.
Topgavin
So that fate episode was interesting, lotsa stuff happened. Seemed like the animation was worse than usual and my god how could the subs screw up the incantation.
reaLjustified
@Aramus Why would you want to send the picture to your friend? Tell 'em to see it for themselves at the site! lol.
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