Posted by psgels on 19 February 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



At first sight, baseball series must all look the same. I too had that same prejudice about the genre before I started watching them. However, what I like about them is that they all have their own things that they’re good at: Touch has its character-development, One Outs has its mind games, Cross Game has its slice of life and Princess Nine has its bombastic and bold execution. Ookiku Furikabutte is the proverbial page-turner: I found myself marathoning through this series, just to see what would happen next.

I’ve often criticized baseball matches for dragging on for too long, but here it’s different: the first season of Ookiku Furikabutte only has two matches, one of which takes up a whopping eleven episodes. Miraculously though, the creators somehow managed to keep it engaging from beginning to end. Out of all the baseball series I’ve seen, this is the one that put the most emphasis on teamwork. It does not have a god-moded pitcher or batter who can single-handedly save games: every single pitch, every single throw or swing is important and could have a major impact on the match.

Because the pitcher inthis series isn’t able to take care of the entire defense by himself, we for once get to see every member of the team in the spotlight, and with his own chances to shine, even the team of the opponent is fleshed out in this way. The baseball matches here are full of tactics that often need to be re-adjusted for every different player, and the creators have really shown that they have a deep knowledge about their subject.

Despite this, I still have a few problems withthe main pitcher, though. It seems to me that the creators tried a bit too hard to make him step away from your average lead character-pitcher that they completely dived into the opposite side of the spectrum. Mihashi is such a loser and socially inept kid that he’s more like some sort of a plot device, rather than an actual character, and I feel that the creators overplayed his strange quirks a bit too much, and that’s a shame because he does get the most ttention in this series. This takes precious time away from the side-characters, that could have been used to develop them.

Overall, A-1 Pictures animated this series also very skillfully: all of the character-designs are distinct and not just carbon copies with just different hair slapped on top of them. Their animation knows when to be smooth and when to cut corners in order to give a good feel of the ongoing baseball match, with the only notable annoyance being the constant facial distortions of Mihashi that get old after a while.

Overall, while I’ve seen more interesting characters in baseball series, I have not seen baseball matches as detailed as outlined here. This is really a series for the baseball fans out there, because this series perfectly captures the essence of how gruelingly long and intense such a match can be. That second season is looking very promising now.

Storytelling: 9/10 – Very well written baseball: every pitch, hit, throw and catch counts.
Characters: 8/10 – Good characterization, but simple characters and an overly quirky lead character.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Solid.
Setting: 9/10 – Very knowledgeable about all sorts of baseball techniques and concepts.

22 Responses

  1. Chris says:

    Double post? Glad you enjoyed the series, while it’s not the best it is very entertaining and charming. Has some nice realism too in terms of teamwork.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Heh, accidentally copied it twice. Fixed now. ^^;

  3. Shippoyasha says:

    I actually don’t think the protagonist is that eccentric. I’m a painful person myself and I can definitely relate to the guy, though the way he’s drawn when he’s having his freakouts makes it seem more dramatic than it seems.

    And yeah, the pitch-by-pitch stuff can be somewhat overbearing, but damn, the mangaka really knows her stuff in regard to the sports psychology.

    I mean, ultimately this entire show is about sports psychology. The psychology of the individual, the team, their past mistakes/triumphs, going against the fears of an overwhelming opponent, etc.

  4. Roldan says:

    It’s a good anime but i kinda don’t like the way play out the matches where a team with first-years can beat a team that has won tournaments but yeah, it’s still pretty awesome. Also i kinda like that Mihashi thing isn’t speed that most manga pitchers tend to have but instead control which is something very underrated in baseball mangas..

  5. Alec says:

    what ruined the anime FOR ME is when a certain fansub group which produces a better quality that the other one dropped the series. Ive waited for a few months,before I heard the news (i guess my INFO was outdated back then),,, neways, after a few months of not watching this anime, I kidnda lost track…. not just that, I also ended watching it in a sucky quality

  6. Pax says:

    To me this is the most realistic sports anime i have watched so far and i doubt a sports anime could me more realistic than this, also i don’t care about baseball at all, i could even say i find it boring, but this anime was really entertaining and fun, so i can’t wait to see the second season.

  7. Machi says:

    Mihashi’s quirks really is a love-hate relationship so its hard to really rate that, some adore it while others don’t. However, what is remarkable is how even with that you can still like the anime precisely because the games draw you in well.

    Surprised you didn’t comment on the music, which I think was used well by the series. Not only the music but you may want to consider how the characters are actually portrayed, the series really captures how some dorky baseball 14-17 year old kids act. You really could imagine these characters in real life, its not like other animes wherein well… I don’t need to comment on that. But thats what the show impressed me about with its characters how genuinely teenage they are, the small details help (oh and of course the authors great research into her subject matter).

    The second season, well its the same goodness however your comment on developing side characters is the double edged sword of the latter chapters. Precisely because you get that, whether for better or for worse (some find it for worse since we want more Mihashi and Abe). The research of the show is spectacular, the author really went out of her way to research if you read the manga notes.

  8. Kanao says:

    I’m glad you finally got around to trying it. It’s one of my favourites.

    I somehow didn’t know about the sequel so thanks for mentioning it. I didn’t think they’d even consider it since it looks like the anime diverged (significantly) from the manga at the end.

    I just noticed you have a MAL account so some other shows in your Plan to Watch list I’d highly recommend are: Honey and Clover, Gankutsuou, Planetes and Koi Kaze. All very easy to watch/marathon. Monster, Nana and Hajime no Ippo are all great as well, though fairly lengthy.

  9. Matt says:

    I love this anime, and manga… I am a sports fan, but the characters and the reality of the matches really make this series go.. I love the main character, his aprehention and then his stuborness not to give up the mound is great… I hope they continue this one through the length of the manga..

  10. omo says:

    The quirky pitcher is a part of the setting. Pitchers are like rock stars, to use an analogy. The “ironman” pitcher protagonist depiction is attractive but they are as unrealistic as their god mode fastballs.

    It’s probably unfortunate that Mihashi is the lead character, but it’s hard to have it any other way. Maybe Abe could have been?

  11. uraH says:

    Just finished this for the second time before the second season airs and I agree a lot with your review. I watched it in one sitting, thing that’s pretty difficult for 26 episode series and I loved every single episode.

    I do disagree on Mihashi. At the end you can see how much he wants to change and wants to be honest, maybe it’s not that much, but it is a change that made him a lot more human. My favorite character was Abe though.

    Of course, the best part of it is how realistic it is, I was nervous about every single ball in the game lol.

    Great review as always.

  12. p-kun says:

    I think your problem with “simple characters” should be solved in season 2. Oofuri’s char development moves at a snail (realistic) pace. By the time season 1 ends, we haven’t seen the best part of char development yet.

    If season 2 follows the manga closely, it should be choke full of char development, this time with the opposite feel of season 1, with Abe crashing to his lows while Mihashi manning up.

    But, YAAAY for season 2 XD, I didn’t know until today. Argh, spring cannot come soon enough.

  13. AKI says:

    Glad you liked it! I’ve been anticipating that second for the longest time. **Fanboy Scream**

  14. Earl says:

    how does Major fare with all those other baseball animes you mentioned? I wanted to watch one baseball anime and I started with Major since I’ve heard it’s been a classic

  15. psgels psgels says:

    Earl: I’m not exactly a Major fan. I tried the first season, but it was too forced, the lead character was too god-moded and it didn’t really have anything to make up for it, unlike series as Touch, Cross Game, One Outs or Princess Nine.

  16. Earl says:

    I guess i’m not too concerned with the lead being too strong (you should prob stay away from season 2 he’s even more ridiculous there lol)

    I’ve watched one outs and it’s an interesting show. Which one do you prefer? Cross Game or this anime you’ve reviewed?

  17. RC says:

    According to Wikipedia, the mangaka has a degree in sports psychology, and it shows.

    I know what you mean about it being a page-turner: I don’t even like baseball, but I marathoned this over just a few days.

    Kanao: I don’t recall the anime differing from the manga at all.

  18. Alec says:

    I didnt quite understand the anime at first, but i already knew that this Anime is definitely good, and unique coz its doesnt rely with pichers like Goro(major),Hiro,Koh,Tatsuya( adachi’s baseball pitchers) and etc

    (the reason is most likely, Saizen fansubs dropping it without my knowledge and so i waited for months, without me even knowing it…neways in 3-4 months, I continued watching it, but I got out of touch from the anime)

    now im watching it again, so that I can fully understand this anime and the GAME too aswell… I’ve watched alot of baseball anime without even knowing the sport properly ( i thought i knew everything, but i wasnt)

    im currently rewatching the anime, and im at ep 6 right now. There will be no 3-4 months of break coz Il be marathoning it and (no subbers will drop it anymore coz its done xD)

    now, im even researching the terms, and stuff. now,i can say i fully understand baseball.
    and the only baseball anime that made me do that is Ookiku Furikabutte. Major S1-S5 didnt, Touch didnt, even H2 and Cross Game didnt, or One Outs….oh and I even forgot to mention Taishou Yakyu Musume lol xD

  19. Machi says:

    Thing about Mihashi as this quirky low-self confidence pitcher is that he’s actually the least conventional ace in an anime. Consider Koh for instance, or yes Goro from Major, both certainly have confidence in themselves and inspire members to try their best precisely because these two hold down the fort with their strength.

    They inspire others through their strength and become a pillar, making them an ideal ace precisely because they hold the team together. Mihashi on the other hand also has their talent and strength in pitching but he certainly lacks confidence big time.

    Yet, the thing is Mihashi still manages to inspire his team mates not because they end up admiring his strength but rather that he doesn’t particularly stand out from the rest. That he’s the same young teenager as his team mates but with very low self-confidence, but despite his low self-confidence he still manages to get on the mound. And in a sense he inspires because “if this guy who is not much different from me and has a pretty fatal flaw of such bad confidence could play and hold off the enemy well so can I!” or another would be that “This guy isn’t so strong or confident but he’s working hard and so I’d like to help him.”

    Mihashi then is the total polar opposite of other aces you’ve seen in sports anime. The fact that Mihashi is so down to earth and has his flaws so played out and exagerrated remind us that he’s no ace that lives at a totally different world from the rest, that he’s just a kid who works hard because he loves pitching so much.

    In a team thats pretty much new they don’t end up depending on him as an ace, they trust him but never end up depending on his performance solely to save their asses, that they end up forgetting that they also play a role.

  20. Oofuri lover says:

    incredible, incredible show.

    Warning: spoiler ahead about Ookiku Furikabutte and Major!

    i wasn’t into baseball at all(havent heard of ANY baseball school teams in my country), and wanted to try at least 1 baseball anime. Since so many people recommended it, saying its epic baseball etc, i watched Major S1 & part of S2. Result? i can’t remember where i watch until, because i was falling asleep. tried my best to finish watching all seasons, but jus couldn’t bear to waste anymore time on it. To be honest, Major is a pretty decent anime, maybe it might be that i watched too many animes, or maybe because i went into it purely for the baseball, it ended up being very boring for me when more than half of the time they’re portraying emotional drama background of the characters. i don’t mind God-like protagonists(hey i LOVE dragonball and its super saiyans, and they are like the epitome of God-Like), but it would help if the side characters aren’t jus following Goro around, waiting for him to save the day. If i want a emotional drama, there are tons out there better than Major, so no thanks. i can see how it got popular in japan, since many people who don’t do baseball will probably relate to Major simply because it is an anime that talks little about baseball compared to the leverage given to the characters’ background info(for god’s sake, we see Goro growing up from a little kid witnessing his parents’ deaths and being adopted & wow what a coincidence that my lifelong rival & future teammate happen to live in the same district as me. a tad touching, yes, but so obviously played out to make our hearts go out to that pitiful little kid. Nah, Capeta really did a better job on that one for me.)

    that said, if this is what i am going to get -> Major totally turned me off baseball animes for awhile.

    And then, WHAM came Ookiku Furikabutte(Oofuri for short). WHAM it suddenly came into my heart, and BOM its there to stay in my heart. 1st episode & it starts talking about baseball; & it manages to stay on-topic AND definitely still interesting while having all episodes revolving around baseball, how awesome is that??

    i finally gave in to watching it after many people recommended it to me; heck one friend is even on the Oofuri manga fansubbing team. Gosh, am i glad i watched it when the entire Season one has been completed for me to conveniently marathon over in a few days!

    As many others have mentioned; the great point of this anime is TEAMWORK and REALISM, a thing often found sorely lacking in animes(after watching 100+ of one piece episodes in a row, i was starting to worry im going loony like luffy).

    i agree with almost everything in your review, such as the 11 episodes poured into a single baseball match and it actually works. the match doesn’t feel overstretched; instead the 11 episodes devoted to it further emphasized to me how strenuous or intense a baseball match can be. There’s so many pluses in Oofuri, its hard not to write on and on, which would bore people especially since my post is already so long.

    So im gona focus on Ren-Ren. i can see how you dislike Ren-Ren & think the creators are over stretching it, can totally understand why people might loathe Mihashi. And yes, it would probably feel abit more natural if Mihashi can manage at least 3 to 5 WHOLE COHERENT sentences in one conversation without being prompted after he gained alittle confidence from being accepted as ace. (i would say that is one of the highlights im still waiting for in Oofuri)

    However, partly from my own personal experience and observances, there are really such awkward kids like Mihashi around. for 2 years, due to some circumstances i was really hated by some of my classmates(i was luckier than mihashi in that there were also people who stood up for me and the period i was hated for wasn’t during my crucial developing teenage years… but come to think of it, mihashi had kanou as well), so i can totally relate to mihashi in that aspect(though i must say, his lack of confidence is incredible); and well other aspects, our personalities completely differs, still i can understand cos there are such one or two people around me. It takes time and patience for someone to walk out of the darkness of being hated and completely brainwashed by almost everyone how completely worthless one is, which usually only people who have experienced it for themselves can understand. So, Mihashi is quite a realistic character to me, in that i can totally imagine such a guy exists. Also, loud speaking voices scares some people(not me; im actually the one who scares people like Mihashi sometimes when i forget myself & laughed loudly when excited. i can totally understand you, Abe!!!). Still, i look forward to him stringing together 5 continous coherent sentences without being prompted; it can be a rather jarring viewing experience to watch mihashi stumble his way throughout 25 episodes. At least he is improving, so after plus and minus, Mihashi is really a neutral point to me. It is jus abit painful at times that Oofuri is so real; it makes me recall some of my own past. Like mihashi’s secret longing to go back to the team that had hated him for so long, like hanai’s comments on how glad he met mihashi in high school rather than middle college or he would have ended up on the bullying side, like how Abe gets extremely frustrated with Mihashi & trying his best to remain patient, like how abe feels mihashi n him are jus different on a basic level, like hanai’s jealousy and self-consciousness over tajima’s inhuman skills and he concluded it is a good thing to feel that way so as to capitalize on those feelings to improve on his own skills, like how tajima can be so carefree and understanding of what mihashi’s quirks meant without mihashi having to say anything(THIS is so funny; tajima u’re my

  21. inkka says:

    I got lost form usually anime that on air now for many days bacause I was being marathon this although I have to stuck with many summer’s work in the same time(Ah…school). But this show win !! At last.. I watch it to end.

    It’s the first anime in this year that I success to marathon. That can guarantee that this show has something special that can captured my heart.

    The first.I finally understand everything in baseball because of this series! Before when I see the anime that involve baseball or the anime that has some of baseball eps. Only thing that I can think is ..It will be boring for sure.
    Although I watched Cross game.It didn’t help at all. OK the slice of life’s part of that series is very good.But when it going to baseball match. I suddenly become boring at it.(I want to confess that I stop watch cross game around ep 30+ and can’t make it to completed T_T Hey..It has 51 eps.It’s too much for me.)
    Ok I didn’t give up.I tried to understand it by search and learn from internet.But at last. It can’t help.

    But this series change my mind forever. When I watch this series. I’m very exciting. Hey Exciting from baseball? It isn’t the thing that look a bit impossible? But It can happened in this series. Although It’s so long like…11 eps.But It can delivered !! I didn’t boring at all. Opposite. I’m very excited and happy to watch it. and with its detailed in every match…I’m become more interesting in baseball now.and begin to think that…This is the true power,true fun form baseball. isn’t it?

    About main pitcher. Mihashi-kun.(moe moe ~) although you complain about it. But if he didn’t have the personality or skill like this. You couldn’t see teamwork.The thing that’s one of the promising thing in this series for sure.

    You see. Usually the baseball anime that mainly focus on main picther or main batter. and what is the result? You will totally forgot about other player. more worse result is. You can’t concern about their win too much. because you didn’t know about the others enough. and the worst result is This can stand at the thing that called baseball anime? because even you can’t make yourself fun in baseball match…Sometime I see baseball anime often called at slice of life/drama anime instead.

    Haha+ this’s very opposite form this series. that in the last ep. You can remembered all of players in the team and some of their personality and their bachground.(And sometimes you can remembered the other team player too. wow..).They’re very charming.

    And at least they didn’t abandoned character development side.they intend to make character development at Mihashi. to make him to be more likeable lead. and it’s very success for me.You will see that from the first to last ep. He is more grow up.

    The last.This really awaken my BL fangirls side!! It’s like..disappeared half of year before. But it come back because of this series. AbeXmihashi Banzai !! they’re really lovely couple.I love them.

    “Watching season 2 now.” That is all that I want to say.

  22. jester says:

    I loved this anime, its really well done in terms of the characters and setting and animation. Yes Mihashi can get on my neverves a lot the time, but the other characters make up for that annoyance. I absolutely love tajima he is simply so hilarious. It really does well talking about sports psychology and takes advantage of every teams weakness. For example, the only reason that Nishiura beat Tosei was because Tosei underestimated Nishiura-> this gave them a bad start on top of that, they also underestimated Nishiuras batters and that gave away points. So it makes sense how a freshman newbie team was able to beat the stronger team. In addition didn’t Nishiura do research on all the batters and use that against them? So that helped them to win too. Also in the second season, Nishiura’s winning streak gets put down by their own weakness: the overdependent pitcher who only relys on the catcher’s signals. Their opponent then, Bijou takes advantage of that thoroughly and beats NIshiura with a whopping 11-6 score..

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Also I don't spoil anything but the last minutes of the first episode just feel stupid. I think/hope there will be an explanation later for how something has worked so perfectly that shouldn't have worked at all. In general it seems to be a show that tries hard but can't deliver for some reason. I won't completely judge it yet though.
Animosh
Planet With also wrapped up things nicely. Unfortunately the dragon remains a bit underdeveloped, which makes it difficult for me to care about his fate, and I would have liked to see at least the main ship officially confirmed, but other than that it was an excellent finale that satisfactorily ties up all loose ends. This is how you do a one-cour.
Amagi
Regarding RErideD I have conflicted feelings. As said, the premise sounds pretty good but the budget is damn dab, especially for the beginning of a show. There is a scene in which the MC is so badly animated you can't even recognize what's going on at first.
Amagi
@Animosh: funny enough I am female, but yeah somehow these discussions only exist with fathers while the mothers are just trowing the towel and say "fuck it", I mean it usually doesn't change anybody's mind so it's more of a hobby I guess.
Animosh
It's a bit late, but Hanebado is finally giving me what I wanted from the show: tense, well-animated badminton matches. The match does feel a bit rushed, the overexplaining can be annoying and there's still plenty of melodrama, but it's a lot more enjoyable than what we got in the previous weeks at least.
Anonymous2822860
will be seeing what kind of flaws Ash has. Also, I think this way of characterizing him also fits into the narrative. This strength that Ash has is what pushes his gang members away and see him not as a normal human, but a "king."
Anonymous2822860
That was some interesting insight on Ash as a "perfect" person. While I do think that Banana Fish shows that Ash is an extremely capable person time and time again, he cannot win this "war" alone. There's too many enemies and too many things that need to be done. Also, I think as we get further on into the second cour, we
Anonymous2822162
Also, it's neat watching the first few episodes again after what goes down throughout the first half of the series; you get to see all of the characters together before everything blows up in their face.
Anonymous2822162
When I say perfect characterization, I should say I mean the way he's characterized as this perfect supremely capable person. The other characters do help reveal other aspects of Ash though: Eiji is his age and allows him to be a normal teenager; Max is like a surrogate father and lets him act like a son; Arthur and Dino are kind of evil inverses of that.
Anonymous2822162
When I say perfect charac
Anonymous2822162
Anyways, not to hate on Ash because he's still a fantastic main lead and anchors the whole show. It's just that because he loses sometimes I push some of the problems of his perfect characterization to the side, but when you actually think about it, he seems more like a character than a real person.
Anonymous2822162
Also the fact that Ash has been through a super tragic backstory doesn't help a lot: it seems like the writers are trying to make him a character who has been through all the tragedy in the world and has overcome it and became the most skilled person in the world. I will say though that any onscreen tragedy is 100% believable, it just some of the flashbacks that are a bit too much.
Anonymous2822162
I guess that slightly cheapens Ash's character on retrospection: of course he is still the charismatic lead, but he feels a bit too perfect at everything. Dino must have taught him quite a bit, but Ash is skilled in, like, everything. It just seems a bit too much.
Anonymous2822162
Like the whole Yut-Lung Shorter Eiji situation was beyond Ash (in fact he still knew something was off but couldn't pinpoint what); that wasn't really a mistake Ash made, it was just that he couldn't have known the secret connections Yut-Lung had.
Anonymous2822162
Something I noticed about Ash is that he is, as some of you pointed out, a Gary Stu but it doesn't immediately jump at you. The thing is that Ash still loses quite a bit, so he doesn't seem invincible, yet at the same I think the majority of his losses were beyond his control. It doesn't feel like he makes mistakes, rather that other people outmaneuver him due to factors beyond him.
Animosh
@Kaiser & Amagi: I also had lots of political discussions with my father. Didn't know that was such a common occurrence. Boys will be boys I guess? And he's actually a former Marxist too, having grown up in the 60's-70's and all. Now he's just a boring socialist though. ;)
Animosh
RErideD seemed really promising in theory: an original time travel anime written (at least in part) by Abe, with the director of Steins;Gate in charge? Count me in. But unfortunately the reviews so far seem to be uniformly negative. So I'll probably avoid it for now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Four episodes of RErideD: Tokigoe no Derrida got uploaded at the same time earlier.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Yes, although probably just for the Saturday, usually the best day to do so because thats when the sellers are there, usually everythings gone by Sunday. Friday is generally anime pub quiz.
Lenlo
Its just a saturday, so busy. And Kaiser, nice. Gonna go to the con at all?
Lenlo
As a writer for it, I dont believe so?
Anonymous2818178
is this site dead?
Kaiser-Eoghan
There is an animecon here in two weeks. That eyepatchwolf youtuber will be there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I still have old single issues of fushigi yugi, inuyasha, Ah my Goddess, narutaru laid around.
Kaiser-Eoghan
They used to realease them like single American comic book issues in the west.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not talking bound volumes but actual 20-30 pages chapters and these would be expensive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Who remembers RENTING anime dvds and RENTING videogames? Does anyone else remember buying each individual manga chapter as they came out when the official English translations rolled around?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Anyone willing to post their desktop? https://ibb.co/buc4Zz
Kaiser-Eoghan
Or things like Mischief makers .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I know vonter mentioned Mystical ninja 64. But I remember after I'd moved on from the snes to the N64 when I was younger, growing up with that obscure castlevania game on it, or stuff like those 3D bomberman games no-one cared about. Or obscure stuff like body harvest, jet force gemini, blast corps , turok, quest 64 and shadowman.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I love coming across those online lists of literally WHOtier, WHOcares , games literally only YOU liked and heard of/played. Makes me feel less alone.
Amagi
I was also always discussing about politics with my father. Whenever we started with this my mother just said "porca putana" and went into another room to watch tv in peace.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animemosh: lol I have daily political discussion with my Marxist-Leninist father just like that =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh I should state, even though I'm not as bothered by the modern setting, I actually do prefer the cold war narrative.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: The documentries name was Battle of Chile by Patricio Guzman.
Amagi
Especially since I don't think that the typical BF audience is of a kind that would lose interest because a series is taking place in the past. It was just written for the 80s, people can't just change that without changing the story itself to some degree.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: I thought the anime did such a good job with Shio's backstory , that I didn't miss what was omitted. The anime is now up to date with the scans. I do agree that Satou's obsession with Shio is non-pedophilic but I think the scene itself is kind of going to give the wrong message.
Amagi
@Animosh: one of the many reasons why I would have prefered Banana Fish's original setting.
Animosh
By the way, apparently the backstory of Shio's mother - which supposedly is really tragic - was largely skipped. Guess I'll have to read the manga.
Animosh
I get what they're going for, recreating the ritual and all, but I also thought the Shio-Satou moment was a bit forced. I still think their relationship is platonic though. Satou has never been shown to lust after Shio: she just fills her with warmth and happiness. They're more like messed up siblings than (romantic) lovers.
Animosh
@Kaiser: sounds interesting! Chile is an excellent example of the kind of Cold War intervention that I really don't see happening today. Although you never know with an impulsive narcissist in the White House.
Animosh
End of monologue. Sorry about this. :p
Animosh
Long story short: I think the Banana Fish conspiracies fail to adequately represent the current situation. At the very least, it fits the Cold War world order much better.
Animosh
That includes the US (backing the Kurds and the rebels), but also Turkey and the Arab states (Sunni rebels), Russia and Iran (Assad), and so on and so forth. You can't act like this is the fault of one party. Hell, I'd say Russia and Assad are more responsible for failing to a peaceful resolution when they had the chance.
Animosh
As for Syria, it's a mess, but the US is only one of many parties responsible. And oil isn't particularly important in this conflict. It's a civil war that's been made much worse by the influx of money and weapons from many different parties vying for regional influence.
Animosh
So what does it do? It gives military and financial backing to militias with shared interests (which is much less than Russia does, by the way), orders drone strikes, and perhaps the occasional tactical strike. But overthrowing countries and setting up puppet regimes? I don't see it happening. That's basically declaring war on the other big powers.
Animosh
And even when it does intervene militarily, it rarely goes all out. The US has learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. It doesn't want to be dragged into another endless conflict, or see its efforts end in another brutal civil war that destabilizes the region.
Animosh
So although the US occasionally still intervenes militarily in other countries' affairs, other means of pressure are now more popular. The sanctions against Iran and North Korea are a good example of this.
Animosh
The current landscape is much more complex. America is still powerful, of course, but relatively speaking it is in decline, and that means it can get away with much less. Today's world is closer to a multipolar world, with many sides fighting for influence. And because the ideological conflict is much less pronounced, the US is much less willing to go against its purported values.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Coincidentally I recently watched a series of Chilean documentaries regarding the murder of Salvador Allende and the installation of the Pinochet Junta.
Animosh
And that meant both that America was far more powerful than it is now, and that much more intervention was considered acceptable - including shamelessly backing dictators that oppressed and exploited their people. After all, a defeat meant evil would prevail.
Animosh
Obviously the US still interferes in other countries. Quite a lot, actually. But there's a big difference between its current policy and that during the Cold War. Back then the geopolitical landscape was very different. It was bipolar, with two big Isms (capitalism and communism) fighting it out.
Animosh
@anon: not sure if this is the right place for a political discussion, but whatever. I like politics, so here we go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*was no exception
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: If, out of the many moments in happy sugar life that I'd consider unsettling, it would be the one's with the aunt and this weeks episode was an exception. That last part of the episode will be interpreted as shoujo-ai bait by people though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Looking forward to Angels of death next week, I think we're getting answers, glad to get answers on bad guy even if he is a simple villain.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now this is an interesting coincidence as last night I just got done watching a documentary about cyberwarfare against Iran.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Thats alot more detailed than what I was going to say. I was just going to say that it reflects current foreign policy.
Anonymous2808488
however the current stalemate in Syria is a reflection of the intransigence of the monied elite to not let go of ill-gotten gains, constantly provoking conflict with Russia/Assad/Iran
Anonymous2808488
Its a documented fact the US/EU promoted the Arab Spring/ISIS rebellions and it was stopped by patriots with a conscience
Anonymous2808488
replace with the mexican cartels/Hezbollah, and oil money promised to Cheney-connected Genie enerrgy
Anonymous2808488
its a pretty accurate description of the current reality minus a couple silly things like the mafia and mind control drugs
Anonymous2808488
You guys realize this plot is unfolding in Syria just replace drugs with oil money
Lenlo
Its hokey in the now, but in the original context the series was written, the Cold War, I think it could fit really well.
Animosh
@Kaiser: what felt awkward to you? I thought the pumpkin stuff in particular was pretty hilarious. Eiji is an evil guy. :p
Animosh
Yeah, the conspiracy stuff feels a bit wacky in the present. But in the context of the Cold War, it makes perfect sense. The USA supported plenty of bloody coups after all, especially in Latin America. Hell, they even backed the Taliban in their war against Russia.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In the future I want to make a bigger effort to follow MORE of whats being covered on here seasonally.
Kaiser-Eoghan
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Red
https://manganelo.com/manga/red_naoki_yamamoto Two history manga, wonder if they'll be fully translated.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine most will probably agree with you anon though. I have alien taste/opinions. I also love conspiracy stuff =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Originally, in the manga version of that part, it was attacking communism in south America.
Anonymous2805624
I don't know; I kinda find the whole Middle East stuff a bit hokey; maybe that's just me.
Lenlo
Im about to watch it. Looking forward to it
Kaiser-Eoghan
I know its only one line, but that they still mention skip and shorter, even its just their names, at least the show keeps them in mind.
Kaiser-Eoghan
With episode 12, Banana fish has successfully contemporized its political/cospiracy aspect for me . Eiji is semi-uselful. Humour in this episode for the first time feels awkward, fast pace kind of means that the quieter slower scenes , though I still enjoy them, feel slotted in.
Lenlo
Most of my emotions this week came because of the original and my love of it, not this one
Lenlo
I agree, Steins;Gate 0 had all the potential, and there are some specific episodes that realized it. Like this episode had a lot of touching scenes cause it slowed down to play up Okabe's relationship with Amadeus. But most of the time, it fails to reach that potential. So as a whole it just feels... lacking
Kaiser-Eoghan
Plebs, not combining both into a single dessert.
Anonymous2802297
I'm talking about that sweet saccharine Chocolate Mousse, the Ganache, or the Chocolate Gâteau. Your puny muffin stands no chance. Mwahaha!
Anonymous2802297
Blasphemy. As a proud American, I can't stand for anything less than pure unadulterated diabetes-inducing sugar in chocolatey cake form. Anything less is an insult to my great nation. /s
SuperMario
@anon2801739: that's a nice analogy but I can't say I agree as I prefer chocolate muffin much more than chocolate cake :)))
Anonymous2801739
Steins;gate 0 is all potential but generally it's wasted. Whenever it actually seems promising they manage to jump plot points to boring nonsensical melodrama for a century. It was supposed to be a chocolate cake. Instead what we got was a muffin with tiny chocolate chips buried few and far between. Yeah it's still sweet at some points, but most of the time you're chewing through pointless fluff.
Lenlo
Like I said in my last post on it I think, the pacing is fucked
Animosh
I did like that the lab members finally acted like scientists again, methodically thinking through their options and all, and there were some pretty touching individual moments and nicely tied up ends. But mostly I'm just annoyed by all the unfulfilled potential of this show.
Animosh
I also hated the backtracking in the beginning. Don't make such a big deal of The Return if you're going to throw it out of the window in the next episode.
Animosh
I really don't understand Steins;Gate's pacing. It slows down to a trickle in the largely irrelevant middle part, and now that things are finally getting somewhat interesting again it just speeds through everything without building things up properly? I don't get it. And how on Earth are they going to resolve everything satisfactorily in one episode?
KTravlos
Reinhard (old series). Ash is interesting and depicted well, but not close to Reinhard. There is something noble in Reinhard, something beyond charisma.
Anonymous2797046
In a charisma battle between our two favorite Blond Boys (doing what blond boys do), who'd win: Reinhard or Ash?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Kind of felt this is what prelude penultimate episode/calm before the storm episode should be and I liked quite liked the ginko and souya scene, but I'm still eh, I shrug at this.
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