Posted by psgels on 19 February 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



At first sight, baseball series must all look the same. I too had that same prejudice about the genre before I started watching them. However, what I like about them is that they all have their own things that they’re good at: Touch has its character-development, One Outs has its mind games, Cross Game has its slice of life and Princess Nine has its bombastic and bold execution. Ookiku Furikabutte is the proverbial page-turner: I found myself marathoning through this series, just to see what would happen next.

I’ve often criticized baseball matches for dragging on for too long, but here it’s different: the first season of Ookiku Furikabutte only has two matches, one of which takes up a whopping eleven episodes. Miraculously though, the creators somehow managed to keep it engaging from beginning to end. Out of all the baseball series I’ve seen, this is the one that put the most emphasis on teamwork. It does not have a god-moded pitcher or batter who can single-handedly save games: every single pitch, every single throw or swing is important and could have a major impact on the match.

Because the pitcher inthis series isn’t able to take care of the entire defense by himself, we for once get to see every member of the team in the spotlight, and with his own chances to shine, even the team of the opponent is fleshed out in this way. The baseball matches here are full of tactics that often need to be re-adjusted for every different player, and the creators have really shown that they have a deep knowledge about their subject.

Despite this, I still have a few problems withthe main pitcher, though. It seems to me that the creators tried a bit too hard to make him step away from your average lead character-pitcher that they completely dived into the opposite side of the spectrum. Mihashi is such a loser and socially inept kid that he’s more like some sort of a plot device, rather than an actual character, and I feel that the creators overplayed his strange quirks a bit too much, and that’s a shame because he does get the most ttention in this series. This takes precious time away from the side-characters, that could have been used to develop them.

Overall, A-1 Pictures animated this series also very skillfully: all of the character-designs are distinct and not just carbon copies with just different hair slapped on top of them. Their animation knows when to be smooth and when to cut corners in order to give a good feel of the ongoing baseball match, with the only notable annoyance being the constant facial distortions of Mihashi that get old after a while.

Overall, while I’ve seen more interesting characters in baseball series, I have not seen baseball matches as detailed as outlined here. This is really a series for the baseball fans out there, because this series perfectly captures the essence of how gruelingly long and intense such a match can be. That second season is looking very promising now.

Storytelling: 9/10 – Very well written baseball: every pitch, hit, throw and catch counts.
Characters: 8/10 – Good characterization, but simple characters and an overly quirky lead character.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Solid.
Setting: 9/10 – Very knowledgeable about all sorts of baseball techniques and concepts.

22 Responses

  1. Chris says:

    Double post? Glad you enjoyed the series, while it’s not the best it is very entertaining and charming. Has some nice realism too in terms of teamwork.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Heh, accidentally copied it twice. Fixed now. ^^;

  3. Shippoyasha says:

    I actually don’t think the protagonist is that eccentric. I’m a painful person myself and I can definitely relate to the guy, though the way he’s drawn when he’s having his freakouts makes it seem more dramatic than it seems.

    And yeah, the pitch-by-pitch stuff can be somewhat overbearing, but damn, the mangaka really knows her stuff in regard to the sports psychology.

    I mean, ultimately this entire show is about sports psychology. The psychology of the individual, the team, their past mistakes/triumphs, going against the fears of an overwhelming opponent, etc.

  4. Roldan says:

    It’s a good anime but i kinda don’t like the way play out the matches where a team with first-years can beat a team that has won tournaments but yeah, it’s still pretty awesome. Also i kinda like that Mihashi thing isn’t speed that most manga pitchers tend to have but instead control which is something very underrated in baseball mangas..

  5. Alec says:

    what ruined the anime FOR ME is when a certain fansub group which produces a better quality that the other one dropped the series. Ive waited for a few months,before I heard the news (i guess my INFO was outdated back then),,, neways, after a few months of not watching this anime, I kidnda lost track…. not just that, I also ended watching it in a sucky quality

  6. Pax says:

    To me this is the most realistic sports anime i have watched so far and i doubt a sports anime could me more realistic than this, also i don’t care about baseball at all, i could even say i find it boring, but this anime was really entertaining and fun, so i can’t wait to see the second season.

  7. Machi says:

    Mihashi’s quirks really is a love-hate relationship so its hard to really rate that, some adore it while others don’t. However, what is remarkable is how even with that you can still like the anime precisely because the games draw you in well.

    Surprised you didn’t comment on the music, which I think was used well by the series. Not only the music but you may want to consider how the characters are actually portrayed, the series really captures how some dorky baseball 14-17 year old kids act. You really could imagine these characters in real life, its not like other animes wherein well… I don’t need to comment on that. But thats what the show impressed me about with its characters how genuinely teenage they are, the small details help (oh and of course the authors great research into her subject matter).

    The second season, well its the same goodness however your comment on developing side characters is the double edged sword of the latter chapters. Precisely because you get that, whether for better or for worse (some find it for worse since we want more Mihashi and Abe). The research of the show is spectacular, the author really went out of her way to research if you read the manga notes.

  8. Kanao says:

    I’m glad you finally got around to trying it. It’s one of my favourites.

    I somehow didn’t know about the sequel so thanks for mentioning it. I didn’t think they’d even consider it since it looks like the anime diverged (significantly) from the manga at the end.

    I just noticed you have a MAL account so some other shows in your Plan to Watch list I’d highly recommend are: Honey and Clover, Gankutsuou, Planetes and Koi Kaze. All very easy to watch/marathon. Monster, Nana and Hajime no Ippo are all great as well, though fairly lengthy.

  9. Matt says:

    I love this anime, and manga… I am a sports fan, but the characters and the reality of the matches really make this series go.. I love the main character, his aprehention and then his stuborness not to give up the mound is great… I hope they continue this one through the length of the manga..

  10. omo says:

    The quirky pitcher is a part of the setting. Pitchers are like rock stars, to use an analogy. The “ironman” pitcher protagonist depiction is attractive but they are as unrealistic as their god mode fastballs.

    It’s probably unfortunate that Mihashi is the lead character, but it’s hard to have it any other way. Maybe Abe could have been?

  11. uraH says:

    Just finished this for the second time before the second season airs and I agree a lot with your review. I watched it in one sitting, thing that’s pretty difficult for 26 episode series and I loved every single episode.

    I do disagree on Mihashi. At the end you can see how much he wants to change and wants to be honest, maybe it’s not that much, but it is a change that made him a lot more human. My favorite character was Abe though.

    Of course, the best part of it is how realistic it is, I was nervous about every single ball in the game lol.

    Great review as always.

  12. p-kun says:

    I think your problem with “simple characters” should be solved in season 2. Oofuri’s char development moves at a snail (realistic) pace. By the time season 1 ends, we haven’t seen the best part of char development yet.

    If season 2 follows the manga closely, it should be choke full of char development, this time with the opposite feel of season 1, with Abe crashing to his lows while Mihashi manning up.

    But, YAAAY for season 2 XD, I didn’t know until today. Argh, spring cannot come soon enough.

  13. AKI says:

    Glad you liked it! I’ve been anticipating that second for the longest time. **Fanboy Scream**

  14. Earl says:

    how does Major fare with all those other baseball animes you mentioned? I wanted to watch one baseball anime and I started with Major since I’ve heard it’s been a classic

  15. psgels psgels says:

    Earl: I’m not exactly a Major fan. I tried the first season, but it was too forced, the lead character was too god-moded and it didn’t really have anything to make up for it, unlike series as Touch, Cross Game, One Outs or Princess Nine.

  16. Earl says:

    I guess i’m not too concerned with the lead being too strong (you should prob stay away from season 2 he’s even more ridiculous there lol)

    I’ve watched one outs and it’s an interesting show. Which one do you prefer? Cross Game or this anime you’ve reviewed?

  17. RC says:

    According to Wikipedia, the mangaka has a degree in sports psychology, and it shows.

    I know what you mean about it being a page-turner: I don’t even like baseball, but I marathoned this over just a few days.

    Kanao: I don’t recall the anime differing from the manga at all.

  18. Alec says:

    I didnt quite understand the anime at first, but i already knew that this Anime is definitely good, and unique coz its doesnt rely with pichers like Goro(major),Hiro,Koh,Tatsuya( adachi’s baseball pitchers) and etc

    (the reason is most likely, Saizen fansubs dropping it without my knowledge and so i waited for months, without me even knowing it…neways in 3-4 months, I continued watching it, but I got out of touch from the anime)

    now im watching it again, so that I can fully understand this anime and the GAME too aswell… I’ve watched alot of baseball anime without even knowing the sport properly ( i thought i knew everything, but i wasnt)

    im currently rewatching the anime, and im at ep 6 right now. There will be no 3-4 months of break coz Il be marathoning it and (no subbers will drop it anymore coz its done xD)

    now, im even researching the terms, and stuff. now,i can say i fully understand baseball.
    and the only baseball anime that made me do that is Ookiku Furikabutte. Major S1-S5 didnt, Touch didnt, even H2 and Cross Game didnt, or One Outs….oh and I even forgot to mention Taishou Yakyu Musume lol xD

  19. Machi says:

    Thing about Mihashi as this quirky low-self confidence pitcher is that he’s actually the least conventional ace in an anime. Consider Koh for instance, or yes Goro from Major, both certainly have confidence in themselves and inspire members to try their best precisely because these two hold down the fort with their strength.

    They inspire others through their strength and become a pillar, making them an ideal ace precisely because they hold the team together. Mihashi on the other hand also has their talent and strength in pitching but he certainly lacks confidence big time.

    Yet, the thing is Mihashi still manages to inspire his team mates not because they end up admiring his strength but rather that he doesn’t particularly stand out from the rest. That he’s the same young teenager as his team mates but with very low self-confidence, but despite his low self-confidence he still manages to get on the mound. And in a sense he inspires because “if this guy who is not much different from me and has a pretty fatal flaw of such bad confidence could play and hold off the enemy well so can I!” or another would be that “This guy isn’t so strong or confident but he’s working hard and so I’d like to help him.”

    Mihashi then is the total polar opposite of other aces you’ve seen in sports anime. The fact that Mihashi is so down to earth and has his flaws so played out and exagerrated remind us that he’s no ace that lives at a totally different world from the rest, that he’s just a kid who works hard because he loves pitching so much.

    In a team thats pretty much new they don’t end up depending on him as an ace, they trust him but never end up depending on his performance solely to save their asses, that they end up forgetting that they also play a role.

  20. Oofuri lover says:

    incredible, incredible show.

    Warning: spoiler ahead about Ookiku Furikabutte and Major!

    i wasn’t into baseball at all(havent heard of ANY baseball school teams in my country), and wanted to try at least 1 baseball anime. Since so many people recommended it, saying its epic baseball etc, i watched Major S1 & part of S2. Result? i can’t remember where i watch until, because i was falling asleep. tried my best to finish watching all seasons, but jus couldn’t bear to waste anymore time on it. To be honest, Major is a pretty decent anime, maybe it might be that i watched too many animes, or maybe because i went into it purely for the baseball, it ended up being very boring for me when more than half of the time they’re portraying emotional drama background of the characters. i don’t mind God-like protagonists(hey i LOVE dragonball and its super saiyans, and they are like the epitome of God-Like), but it would help if the side characters aren’t jus following Goro around, waiting for him to save the day. If i want a emotional drama, there are tons out there better than Major, so no thanks. i can see how it got popular in japan, since many people who don’t do baseball will probably relate to Major simply because it is an anime that talks little about baseball compared to the leverage given to the characters’ background info(for god’s sake, we see Goro growing up from a little kid witnessing his parents’ deaths and being adopted & wow what a coincidence that my lifelong rival & future teammate happen to live in the same district as me. a tad touching, yes, but so obviously played out to make our hearts go out to that pitiful little kid. Nah, Capeta really did a better job on that one for me.)

    that said, if this is what i am going to get -> Major totally turned me off baseball animes for awhile.

    And then, WHAM came Ookiku Furikabutte(Oofuri for short). WHAM it suddenly came into my heart, and BOM its there to stay in my heart. 1st episode & it starts talking about baseball; & it manages to stay on-topic AND definitely still interesting while having all episodes revolving around baseball, how awesome is that??

    i finally gave in to watching it after many people recommended it to me; heck one friend is even on the Oofuri manga fansubbing team. Gosh, am i glad i watched it when the entire Season one has been completed for me to conveniently marathon over in a few days!

    As many others have mentioned; the great point of this anime is TEAMWORK and REALISM, a thing often found sorely lacking in animes(after watching 100+ of one piece episodes in a row, i was starting to worry im going loony like luffy).

    i agree with almost everything in your review, such as the 11 episodes poured into a single baseball match and it actually works. the match doesn’t feel overstretched; instead the 11 episodes devoted to it further emphasized to me how strenuous or intense a baseball match can be. There’s so many pluses in Oofuri, its hard not to write on and on, which would bore people especially since my post is already so long.

    So im gona focus on Ren-Ren. i can see how you dislike Ren-Ren & think the creators are over stretching it, can totally understand why people might loathe Mihashi. And yes, it would probably feel abit more natural if Mihashi can manage at least 3 to 5 WHOLE COHERENT sentences in one conversation without being prompted after he gained alittle confidence from being accepted as ace. (i would say that is one of the highlights im still waiting for in Oofuri)

    However, partly from my own personal experience and observances, there are really such awkward kids like Mihashi around. for 2 years, due to some circumstances i was really hated by some of my classmates(i was luckier than mihashi in that there were also people who stood up for me and the period i was hated for wasn’t during my crucial developing teenage years… but come to think of it, mihashi had kanou as well), so i can totally relate to mihashi in that aspect(though i must say, his lack of confidence is incredible); and well other aspects, our personalities completely differs, still i can understand cos there are such one or two people around me. It takes time and patience for someone to walk out of the darkness of being hated and completely brainwashed by almost everyone how completely worthless one is, which usually only people who have experienced it for themselves can understand. So, Mihashi is quite a realistic character to me, in that i can totally imagine such a guy exists. Also, loud speaking voices scares some people(not me; im actually the one who scares people like Mihashi sometimes when i forget myself & laughed loudly when excited. i can totally understand you, Abe!!!). Still, i look forward to him stringing together 5 continous coherent sentences without being prompted; it can be a rather jarring viewing experience to watch mihashi stumble his way throughout 25 episodes. At least he is improving, so after plus and minus, Mihashi is really a neutral point to me. It is jus abit painful at times that Oofuri is so real; it makes me recall some of my own past. Like mihashi’s secret longing to go back to the team that had hated him for so long, like hanai’s comments on how glad he met mihashi in high school rather than middle college or he would have ended up on the bullying side, like how Abe gets extremely frustrated with Mihashi & trying his best to remain patient, like how abe feels mihashi n him are jus different on a basic level, like hanai’s jealousy and self-consciousness over tajima’s inhuman skills and he concluded it is a good thing to feel that way so as to capitalize on those feelings to improve on his own skills, like how tajima can be so carefree and understanding of what mihashi’s quirks meant without mihashi having to say anything(THIS is so funny; tajima u’re my

  21. inkka says:

    I got lost form usually anime that on air now for many days bacause I was being marathon this although I have to stuck with many summer’s work in the same time(Ah…school). But this show win !! At last.. I watch it to end.

    It’s the first anime in this year that I success to marathon. That can guarantee that this show has something special that can captured my heart.

    The first.I finally understand everything in baseball because of this series! Before when I see the anime that involve baseball or the anime that has some of baseball eps. Only thing that I can think is ..It will be boring for sure.
    Although I watched Cross game.It didn’t help at all. OK the slice of life’s part of that series is very good.But when it going to baseball match. I suddenly become boring at it.(I want to confess that I stop watch cross game around ep 30+ and can’t make it to completed T_T Hey..It has 51 eps.It’s too much for me.)
    Ok I didn’t give up.I tried to understand it by search and learn from internet.But at last. It can’t help.

    But this series change my mind forever. When I watch this series. I’m very exciting. Hey Exciting from baseball? It isn’t the thing that look a bit impossible? But It can happened in this series. Although It’s so long like…11 eps.But It can delivered !! I didn’t boring at all. Opposite. I’m very excited and happy to watch it. and with its detailed in every match…I’m become more interesting in baseball now.and begin to think that…This is the true power,true fun form baseball. isn’t it?

    About main pitcher. Mihashi-kun.(moe moe ~) although you complain about it. But if he didn’t have the personality or skill like this. You couldn’t see teamwork.The thing that’s one of the promising thing in this series for sure.

    You see. Usually the baseball anime that mainly focus on main picther or main batter. and what is the result? You will totally forgot about other player. more worse result is. You can’t concern about their win too much. because you didn’t know about the others enough. and the worst result is This can stand at the thing that called baseball anime? because even you can’t make yourself fun in baseball match…Sometime I see baseball anime often called at slice of life/drama anime instead.

    Haha+ this’s very opposite form this series. that in the last ep. You can remembered all of players in the team and some of their personality and their bachground.(And sometimes you can remembered the other team player too. wow..).They’re very charming.

    And at least they didn’t abandoned character development side.they intend to make character development at Mihashi. to make him to be more likeable lead. and it’s very success for me.You will see that from the first to last ep. He is more grow up.

    The last.This really awaken my BL fangirls side!! It’s like..disappeared half of year before. But it come back because of this series. AbeXmihashi Banzai !! they’re really lovely couple.I love them.

    “Watching season 2 now.” That is all that I want to say.

  22. jester says:

    I loved this anime, its really well done in terms of the characters and setting and animation. Yes Mihashi can get on my neverves a lot the time, but the other characters make up for that annoyance. I absolutely love tajima he is simply so hilarious. It really does well talking about sports psychology and takes advantage of every teams weakness. For example, the only reason that Nishiura beat Tosei was because Tosei underestimated Nishiura-> this gave them a bad start on top of that, they also underestimated Nishiuras batters and that gave away points. So it makes sense how a freshman newbie team was able to beat the stronger team. In addition didn’t Nishiura do research on all the batters and use that against them? So that helped them to win too. Also in the second season, Nishiura’s winning streak gets put down by their own weakness: the overdependent pitcher who only relys on the catcher’s signals. Their opponent then, Bijou takes advantage of that thoroughly and beats NIshiura with a whopping 11-6 score..

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Kaiser-Eoghan
It does prompt me to read the manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Furryguy story got too many episodes. I surprisingly enjoyed the time travel one.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, Phoneix, the 2004 series is the definition of a mixed bag, the first story gets gritty and bleak in a way that I liked but its the scifi stories I connect with best, the first one for its premise/set up and the second because the last part kind of hit me and seeing Rock, another Tezuka character cameoing in it was kinda cool.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pluto will be something that'll definately hold up for me and i can see myself actually appreciating it more when I watch the eventual adaptation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I guess I'm reading Adolf then after watching the phoenix anime.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm thinking more along the lines of wanting a full kare kano adaptation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: And I'm not sure if my tastes would be the same now.
Anonymous3115199
Hope it gets a decent episode count that does it justice. Can't imagine it being another rushed 1 episode per volume adaptation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: But I'm not sure if I'll catch the remake.I've already read the manga twice years ago and seen the original anime twice aswell.
Anonymous3115199
Fruits Basket. Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. And it's a getting a remake next year that covers the whole manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am old enough to remember watching 2 episodes of mysterious cities of Gold and one of battle of the planets aswell as the 90s gigantor.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I happy to see studios finally going back to adapt stuff that deserves adapting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have also read angel no oka. Still haven't read Adolf or dororo.
Amagi
I can't wait for the Pluto anime (that was announced like a year ago?).
Kaiser-Eoghan
I won't spoil it, but MW had one cheeky ending that I loved.
Amagi
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Kaiser-Eoghan
A manga adaptation of mein kampf exists.
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I used to joking argue with people when I was younger online about Disney ripping off Kimba.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've seen all the black Jack stuff, metropolis, I also read Book of human insects, Ayako, apollos song, MW, princess knight and some of ode to kirihito .
Amagi
I wish someone would animate Adolf one day. Or a proper adaption of Buddha.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I bring this up because somebody mentioned Phoenix when talking about Spirit circle.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I must confess to my eternal shame I have never seen Osamu Tezuka's phoenix apart from that one episode with the guy hallucinating that the robot girl was human.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Ah, to be more specific I meant in general.
Lenlo
Im with ya. If your talking about my comment on Ash's breakdown, im not saying I would have prefered to see it. I just think it did its job of disturbing the viewer well.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I would rather the characters speak explicitly of certain things in banana fish, sometimes seeing everything isn't neccesary.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Perhaps we should race Yagate and Irozuku, see who's faster.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: I've had it on hold for about 3 episodes , I'm waiting to see if it does anything before continuing, pretty show tho'.
Niello
It already passed the half way point but nothing happens in irozuku...nothing.
Amagi
Yeah I jsut read it in the thread. I love grandpa.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Seems like a big moment in Chi no Wadachi.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Someone is uploading translated pages of the new beastars chapter on 4chan.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am behind on some shows, I'm not uptodate with Irozuku or Yagate.
Kaiser-Eoghan
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Kaiser-Eoghan
There was an anime called ristorante paradiso where all the dudes were old.
Amagi
That reminds me that there actually exists an otome'ish pub VN in which every guy is older than 40. Well I have to admit it's at least setting itself apart from the dozens of male j-rock/pop bishounen harem guys VNs out there. Same with that Pigeon otome VN (yes it's actual pigeons).
Kaiser-Eoghan
Goodness, we could have a reverse harem anime called Amagi-san and the 7 battling ojisans =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I wish the geezer in Goblin slayer would have more to do.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Interesting how I hate certain genres, but when they're put through an exploitation lens I end up liking the genre, probably because it shits all over said genres while cutting out the boring parts.
Amagi
Yeah, same here. I also like it when stories are more mixed regarding age, general look, gender and such which is especially a problem in anime where you usually get 10 characters of the same gender, age and body type. Bonus if it's an idol show and they even have samefaces.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course these adult characters can exist outside of a fantasy and also be more relatable to me now, which is also a good thing, in a more serious story.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Alot of this has to do with getting older and being aware of that fact, knowing theres a 30/40 something able to do stuff I can't.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would welcome an age of pensioner-ploitation films.
Amagi
I always enjoyed movies with old guys for example. Not only that, but I usually like it. For various reasons like the stories they have to tell, the nearing death (for very old ones) or a midlife crisis but welp, these movies were common 40 years ago, now it's teens and young adults since these are the demographies that are most likely willing to pay for the cinema or to buy merch.
Amagi
Yeah same here. Modern hollywood movies are way more mainstream than old ones and try to be the lowest common denominator with the most common tropes and stereotypical characters so unless you have more or less the most common taste and way of thinking for whatever reason you won't enjoy it and only get even more bored with every new movie that just feels like the 1000 movies before that.
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Wheras I'd delight in anything left field or out of the box, because I love being constantly buzzed or surprised or seeing something do something uncompromising or weird.
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*sense of
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But I understand that people feel belittled when they watch something they can't make traditional sense or or morally work out .
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But I've accepted that the stuff I really really like is going to be alien to a majority. I'd watch a lurid ova or b movie over any popular shounen or most post 80s hollywood films.
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There would have been a time where I'd thought I was doing it wrong or that people would just think me some kind of hipster or contrarian for not liking popular/mainstream stuff/what everyone in the same room/site likes.
Amagi
Same with movies. I guess in the end it's always about being able to relate. If there is a strange character only certain people can relate to they'll enjoy it while everyone else falls asleep and vice versa with more typical characters. Hell I have seen a ton of non-stop action movies that literally put me to sleep because there was nothing for me to root for nor any great twists to expect.
Amagi
It's strange but whenever people hate a series for being too boring it turns out to be a series I like which is weird because I consider 80% of all existing series boring, including many series most people actually consider exciting and/or enjoyable as hell.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember there was a devil may cry anime, the guy subbing it didn't do a very good job but it was an okay extended advert for the game.
Lenlo
The man has also said that if someone would get him the rights to Berserk, he would do that to.
Animosh
Well, you still deserve credit for suggesting the series, because otherwise I wouldn't have even known it existed. :) But yeah, I like that people here are so open-minded. Anime is great and all, but there's plenty to discover outside of it (though to be fair, I'm lagging behind with many of them: following anime seasonally is great for discussion, but it can eat up a lot of time).
SuperMario
@Animosh: don't mention it. I'm glad you enjoy it. I don't take credits in this case since I myself haven't watched it yet. I love it how this community is willing to try other medium and not exclusively anime
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Really surprised this isn't more well known. Not that there's been much competition, but it's easily the best (western) cartoon I've seen this year.
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@SuperMario: thanks again for recommending Lastman! I just finished it, and it was a lot of fun. It doesn't have much depth, but it was incredibly entertaining: it just keeps throwing these bizarrely over the top action set-pieces at you without pausing, it oozes style, and its soundtrack is killer (it reminded me a bit of Hotline Miami). And it can be pretty damn funny too. It even ends strongly.
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"I swear if I see some nonsense like her not being able to stay “Professional” due to having a boyfriend then I will have to strangle something" --> is that why you had screenshot of kitties up there?
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@Kaiser: little sister has a strong chance to be a protag in the last arc. I'm genuinely surprised that Futaba is the main girl in this arc thou
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I want to see the little sister looking scared in bunnygirl agrain.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yay! Sing and eiji are doing something and Ash's freakout while melodramtic and ridiculous was still bleak, learn a bit more about Blanca which is good. Didn't like the goofy bit with yut-lung.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Not intellectually non-intellectual enough for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Bunny-girl has redeemed itself. Also my favourite part of this weeks episode was 7 or 8 minutes before the end .
SuperMario
I mean, just reading that title alone I might check out what this movie is about. lol
SuperMario
Well, I come across an unusual film title today. A Japanese film called "When I Get Home, My Wife Always Pretends to be Dead"
Kaiser-Eoghan
The Lafalle arc (as thematically I probably engaged the most here)and the final arc both elevated this series for me, even though I did enjoy the bit with Vann early on.
I’ve heard people don’t like the ending it hit with me.
Really solid.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Dramatically this even kind of clicked for me and the antagonist surprised me as did twintails girl and bestghosts eventual roles, comedy isn’t exactly funny but I did laugh at points.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Apparently I got third time lucky with Mizukami, because I found this a very fresh take on the re-incarnation genre while actually DOING something worthwhile with it, his pacing/story telling style definitely feels a better fit to me in a short manga like this.
Kaiser-Eoghan
After a degree of indifference to planet with and only liking Biscuit hammers last arc, I ended up approaching Spirit circle expecting to not really have any opinion on it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Just my kind of weird.
Anonymous3093267
sword eyes
SuperMario
Here's another experimental animated short for you, Kaiser, Tango (1981) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo8O8lYDzIU
SuperMario
@Animosh: yeah the second part was released in VOD earlier this year and I watched it. Prefer the 1st one much better
Vonter
I don't know why, but I thought you were talking about Tomorrowland. That Disney movie that bombed and everyone seemed very lukewarm about. I suppose because I don't know exactly what was the problem with it, didn't see much discussion about it.
Animosh
@SuperMario: I think I've seen World of Tomorrow, but not 100% sure. There's apparently a second part out though, and I definitely haven't seen that!
Animosh
And Umfeld (https://vimeo.com/umfeld) is also worth mentioning. It kind of consists of shorts, it's technically animated (at least in part: it mixes real footage and CGI I think?), and it's definitely weird. It's a very polarizing work though. I love it, but it wouldn't surprise me if most people here hate it.
Animosh
Some other things that came to mind: Tim Burton's "Vincent" (it's stop-motion, but whatever), Loom (https://vimeo.com/24069938) and E-Baby (https://vimeo.com/25435555). And the stop-motion shorts by Lee Hardcastle are pretty fun, if you're in the mood for some needlessly disgusting horror.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I enjoyed embrace of the serpent which has the same director as Birds of passage so I'll keep an eye out for it.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I'm going to see Roma and Birds of Passage this weekend. Really excited for both
Kaiser-Eoghan
As for the she-ra thing well, as I've gotten older I probably have avoided kids stuff more.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't want to see tokenism being seen as acceptance when it isn't, it feels that people are putting forth the idea that something is only being/can be accepted because its being portrayed in a tokenistic way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its fine, obviously to have strong female characters, Ripley in Alien, Sarah Conner in Terminator, awesome....Rey in star wars....no.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think too often shows and films, American ones today, are tokenistic or clicheed with inserting issues, merely just throwing them in or tacking them on for the sake of ticking boxes rather than any earnesty or doing anything.
Anonymous3086853
@SuperMario - I do. Yet at the same time it was a bit outside of my comfort zone, watching something like this considering that (let's be honest) msot shows are men oriented. Even the ones with great female characters. This one despite having tomboyish girls is mainly about these girls with male characters having supporting roles. I suppose that's were the uneasiness lies in my case.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Just got done watching both earlier, his dark humour jives well with me and I liked the concept.
SuperMario
@Kaiser @Animosh: if you haven't seen World of Tomorrow plsssss check it out. I can't recommend it highly enough
SuperMario
@Vonter: Maybe it's a good things that shows for general audiences like this have queer context. Don't you think?
Anonymous3086853
Also because I'm a bit immature, this show is kinda gay. There's a lot of ship baiting moments, one same sex couple in the last episode and rainbows, pastel colors, emasculated male characters and some female crossdressing.
Anonymous3086853
The weakest aspect is that several secondary characters get lost in the shuffle. Kinda like Big Hero 6 in which the team had personalities but just didn't had the time to develop in any meaningful way. Still both the main cast and villains were good and like I say the protagonist and antagonist had strong arcs for a first season.
Anonymous3086853
So I now finished watching She Ra, and it got even better as it was building towards the season's end. Thes strongest aspect is the rivalry between Adora and Catra, the chemistry is very strong, kinda like Optimus and Megatron or Xavier and Magneto. In which both parts seem equally capable and to have mind games with the other.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh hey cool, rain town is done by the Penguin hhighway anime movie guy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It looks like I haven't seen Don Hertzfedlts World of tomorrow films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also Prince Achmed and How Wang-Fo Was Saved.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah. yes, thanks animosh, I had a look at Rain town there, I like the style it was done in, it achieves the emotions its trying to convey well without needing dialogue, piano score actually helps rather than hinders.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Glassy ocean, that was another short I watched lately.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh inka isha is country doctor.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I know Mario has seen this style on animation, but anyone else see any oil on glass animation?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I actually prefer robot carnival to genius party but liked both.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Zepo, The Pride of Strathmoor were recent animated shorts I watched.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Recently I watched two shorts, death and the mother and pleasures of war.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd say any eastern european short films would be worth anyones time.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not familiar with rain town or Inaka Isha .
Amagi
Kaiser: Have you seen Inaka Isha from Kafka?
Animosh
In the meanwhile, though, I'd also be very interested in recommendations! The shorts I mentioned are among my favorite animated works, so if you know anything similar, please let me know. :)
Animosh
For western animation I really like the Don Hertzfeldt shorts. And there was this short called "Rain Town" that was really impressively animated. I'm sure there were others, but my long-term memory is pretty lousy. If something else comes to mind I'll let you know.
Animosh
I'm pretty sure you're already going to be familiar with all of my favorites, but here you go: Morimoto's shorts are all fantastic (Dimension Bomb, Beyond, Noiseman Sound Insect, etc), and two others that come to mind are Cat Soup and Kigeki (or Comedy) by Nakazawa. There are also some great collections out there (like the Genius Party ones), but again, you've probably seen those already.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If anyone has any suggestions for weird short animations, I'm looking for excuses to watch some more and I'm in the mood for them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: Mario's youtube link had cgi models of rem and ram in the video.
Masky
I'm confused when was Rem even mentioned
Kaiser-Eoghan
I only ever watched he-man and stuff related to it in passing when I was younger, Conan was more my thing back then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
For so long I'd always referred to she-ra as she-man.
AidanAK47
@Mario, What is this heresy!
....
....Rems always cute.
Anonymous3084910
Hilda is fine, though is very laidback kinda like a young reader's novel. It has its moments but its fantasy with slice-of-life coming of age.
Anonymous3084910
@SuperMario Yeah I know, She Ra is the twin sister of He Man. But strangely it seems Dreamworks may not have the right to those characters. It was a marketing idea trying to bring more girls to that universe but like most girls show from the time it had a very flat depiction of what little girls want to see.
SuperMario
Sorry Aidan, I know it's blasphemy but I have to post here. Enjoy the OP song with the twins https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9MUjISNm0U&index=4&list=PLU56jBSlcHw8-ol9Hi4lJ0GR0tU6EOf2a
SuperMario
I'll probably check out Hilda. Heard a lot of hypes about that show
SuperMario
@Vonter: I've heard of She-Ra, she's the female counterpart (well, sister) of He-Man (the most powerful man in the universe and the secret identity of Prince Adam). Sounds silly but I'm not even kidding
Vonter
All in all, despite not being a big thing, I think is an enjoyable recommendation. My only nitpick is that it maybe too light hearted for some kinda like above My Little Pony but below something Voltron. Also despite being less childish than the original is still kinda of girly with lots of pastel colors although it balances it a bit having girls being more tomboyish in different degrees.
Vonter
Like with Voltron it amuses me seeing anime tropes being played through western lens. Since I'm a bit hesitant to say that could this count as a harem series despite not being male gaze moments? Also having the most sensible hotspring episode I've seen.
Vonter
In this one this She Ra has pathos. A bit like Korra there's doubt in her role and also a complicated relationship with her rival. I do like the role reversal in the knight's tale this clearly is, in that most roles that would be played by men are played by women in this story. Matriarchy, displacement of both femminine beauty but also empowerment.
Vonter
So I've watched some of the new She Ra from Netflix. So far I'm in, it's not deep but it's quite charismatic. I do like there's more pathos in regards to these characters which pretty much were confined to their archetype to an extreme like the original Power Rangers.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It manages to make watching something like running engaging, when I'd otherwise probably not watch the sport. Also, last week the show ended up popping into my head when I was sitting around doing pretty much nothing and made me think "Ok fuck it, not sitting around doing nothing, going to go out for a run around the block"
Lenlo
I also agree, characters losing in sports is important. They can't start at the top, it makes the series lose meaning
Lenlo
I quite enjoyed Kaze Fui this week. I think your correct that the one who got the reality check was Kurahara, who thought he was the only one able to actually make it. I also thing that he has a competitive streak a mile wide, and might be a little afraid of failure. Doesnt think the team can make it, so why bother
Kaiser-Eoghan
Think I wasn't i the mood for honda-san this week even though I laughed.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know I like it when sports series actually show the characters you know...actually lose.
Anonymous3083989
Huh, interesting in this episode of Kaze ga that it's Kakeru who got a reality check during the track meet since he was beaten by two other runners. I think we're due for an episode soon where he has to confront his past demons instead of fleeing from them.
Anonymous3083626
@Kaiser-Eoghan - Aging in fiction, I think has more to do with the story than the characters. I mean the jokes about Ash Ketchum, Detective Conan, Archie. The Flinstones tried to make different stories by aging Pebbles and Bam Bam. Or Batman having two Robins graduating into their own heroes. But in the end dynamics change, hence why most cartoons don't age the characters.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which is why when aging does occur in anime/manga, such as in vinland saga or nanoha for example, its appreciated.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And of course, animated characters often don't age much.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can remember enjoying the simpsons movie back when I watched it, but thinking about it it really was just an extended episode. Really the show peaked with the who shot Mr Burns episode. Catching bits of recent episodes and seeing them use modern stuff while they never age seems weird too.
Amagi
I do think series are allowed to move forward though, I am kinda interested in the Pkmn movie for example. But certain shows should just end, Simpsons for example was a parody of the 90s, it just can't work in a more modern setting IMO.
Amagi
I stopped with the Simpsons when Maude was killed/died, it was just a step in the wrong direction they should have never done and it killed the series for me. I disliked it before already though, I think I noticed the series getting worse since season..9? Or 10, not sure anymore.
Amagi
Anime for Dorohedoro announced.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Therefore ruining the fanservice fun for everybody.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My favourite beach episodes are ones where it rains and they end up not being able to go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
After that it was just the film for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually, regarding the simpsons, the episode I stopped on was sometime in the early 2000s, Homer was stuck on some island resort or something.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I suppose it was just as much a case of falling out of watching/playing too and then there being so many episodes/games catchup was impossible. I probably should read the manga someday.
Anonymous3081957
@Kaiser-Eoghan -Kinda like Sponge Bob, Power Rangers or The Simpsons, I can't blame those who move forward, It's imposible for a show to go that long without losing steam. I did check the Sun and Moon first season and while I think the personality and energy is better it doesn't exactly push the concept forward. Still somehow Pokemon is still a phenomenon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: Very strange hearing a Pikachu talk with Ryan Reynolds voice. But my days of pokemon are behind me.
KyokoHyuga
?????
KyokoHyuga
who likes pokemon here
SuperMario
@Amagi: I think the person who made the sub for Maquia did a pretty neat job. Not perfect but the translation flows well
Vonter
We've seen realistic Pokémon fanart, but how does a movie looks when it attempts it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8CKgQFo5U8
Amagi
How are the subs for Maquia? I only heard anons complain about it.
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