Posted by psgels on 19 February 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



At first sight, baseball series must all look the same. I too had that same prejudice about the genre before I started watching them. However, what I like about them is that they all have their own things that they’re good at: Touch has its character-development, One Outs has its mind games, Cross Game has its slice of life and Princess Nine has its bombastic and bold execution. Ookiku Furikabutte is the proverbial page-turner: I found myself marathoning through this series, just to see what would happen next.

I’ve often criticized baseball matches for dragging on for too long, but here it’s different: the first season of Ookiku Furikabutte only has two matches, one of which takes up a whopping eleven episodes. Miraculously though, the creators somehow managed to keep it engaging from beginning to end. Out of all the baseball series I’ve seen, this is the one that put the most emphasis on teamwork. It does not have a god-moded pitcher or batter who can single-handedly save games: every single pitch, every single throw or swing is important and could have a major impact on the match.

Because the pitcher inthis series isn’t able to take care of the entire defense by himself, we for once get to see every member of the team in the spotlight, and with his own chances to shine, even the team of the opponent is fleshed out in this way. The baseball matches here are full of tactics that often need to be re-adjusted for every different player, and the creators have really shown that they have a deep knowledge about their subject.

Despite this, I still have a few problems withthe main pitcher, though. It seems to me that the creators tried a bit too hard to make him step away from your average lead character-pitcher that they completely dived into the opposite side of the spectrum. Mihashi is such a loser and socially inept kid that he’s more like some sort of a plot device, rather than an actual character, and I feel that the creators overplayed his strange quirks a bit too much, and that’s a shame because he does get the most ttention in this series. This takes precious time away from the side-characters, that could have been used to develop them.

Overall, A-1 Pictures animated this series also very skillfully: all of the character-designs are distinct and not just carbon copies with just different hair slapped on top of them. Their animation knows when to be smooth and when to cut corners in order to give a good feel of the ongoing baseball match, with the only notable annoyance being the constant facial distortions of Mihashi that get old after a while.

Overall, while I’ve seen more interesting characters in baseball series, I have not seen baseball matches as detailed as outlined here. This is really a series for the baseball fans out there, because this series perfectly captures the essence of how gruelingly long and intense such a match can be. That second season is looking very promising now.

Storytelling: 9/10 – Very well written baseball: every pitch, hit, throw and catch counts.
Characters: 8/10 – Good characterization, but simple characters and an overly quirky lead character.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Solid.
Setting: 9/10 – Very knowledgeable about all sorts of baseball techniques and concepts.

22 Responses

  1. Chris says:

    Double post? Glad you enjoyed the series, while it’s not the best it is very entertaining and charming. Has some nice realism too in terms of teamwork.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Heh, accidentally copied it twice. Fixed now. ^^;

  3. Shippoyasha says:

    I actually don’t think the protagonist is that eccentric. I’m a painful person myself and I can definitely relate to the guy, though the way he’s drawn when he’s having his freakouts makes it seem more dramatic than it seems.

    And yeah, the pitch-by-pitch stuff can be somewhat overbearing, but damn, the mangaka really knows her stuff in regard to the sports psychology.

    I mean, ultimately this entire show is about sports psychology. The psychology of the individual, the team, their past mistakes/triumphs, going against the fears of an overwhelming opponent, etc.

  4. Roldan says:

    It’s a good anime but i kinda don’t like the way play out the matches where a team with first-years can beat a team that has won tournaments but yeah, it’s still pretty awesome. Also i kinda like that Mihashi thing isn’t speed that most manga pitchers tend to have but instead control which is something very underrated in baseball mangas..

  5. Alec says:

    what ruined the anime FOR ME is when a certain fansub group which produces a better quality that the other one dropped the series. Ive waited for a few months,before I heard the news (i guess my INFO was outdated back then),,, neways, after a few months of not watching this anime, I kidnda lost track…. not just that, I also ended watching it in a sucky quality

  6. Pax says:

    To me this is the most realistic sports anime i have watched so far and i doubt a sports anime could me more realistic than this, also i don’t care about baseball at all, i could even say i find it boring, but this anime was really entertaining and fun, so i can’t wait to see the second season.

  7. Machi says:

    Mihashi’s quirks really is a love-hate relationship so its hard to really rate that, some adore it while others don’t. However, what is remarkable is how even with that you can still like the anime precisely because the games draw you in well.

    Surprised you didn’t comment on the music, which I think was used well by the series. Not only the music but you may want to consider how the characters are actually portrayed, the series really captures how some dorky baseball 14-17 year old kids act. You really could imagine these characters in real life, its not like other animes wherein well… I don’t need to comment on that. But thats what the show impressed me about with its characters how genuinely teenage they are, the small details help (oh and of course the authors great research into her subject matter).

    The second season, well its the same goodness however your comment on developing side characters is the double edged sword of the latter chapters. Precisely because you get that, whether for better or for worse (some find it for worse since we want more Mihashi and Abe). The research of the show is spectacular, the author really went out of her way to research if you read the manga notes.

  8. Kanao says:

    I’m glad you finally got around to trying it. It’s one of my favourites.

    I somehow didn’t know about the sequel so thanks for mentioning it. I didn’t think they’d even consider it since it looks like the anime diverged (significantly) from the manga at the end.

    I just noticed you have a MAL account so some other shows in your Plan to Watch list I’d highly recommend are: Honey and Clover, Gankutsuou, Planetes and Koi Kaze. All very easy to watch/marathon. Monster, Nana and Hajime no Ippo are all great as well, though fairly lengthy.

  9. Matt says:

    I love this anime, and manga… I am a sports fan, but the characters and the reality of the matches really make this series go.. I love the main character, his aprehention and then his stuborness not to give up the mound is great… I hope they continue this one through the length of the manga..

  10. omo says:

    The quirky pitcher is a part of the setting. Pitchers are like rock stars, to use an analogy. The “ironman” pitcher protagonist depiction is attractive but they are as unrealistic as their god mode fastballs.

    It’s probably unfortunate that Mihashi is the lead character, but it’s hard to have it any other way. Maybe Abe could have been?

  11. uraH says:

    Just finished this for the second time before the second season airs and I agree a lot with your review. I watched it in one sitting, thing that’s pretty difficult for 26 episode series and I loved every single episode.

    I do disagree on Mihashi. At the end you can see how much he wants to change and wants to be honest, maybe it’s not that much, but it is a change that made him a lot more human. My favorite character was Abe though.

    Of course, the best part of it is how realistic it is, I was nervous about every single ball in the game lol.

    Great review as always.

  12. p-kun says:

    I think your problem with “simple characters” should be solved in season 2. Oofuri’s char development moves at a snail (realistic) pace. By the time season 1 ends, we haven’t seen the best part of char development yet.

    If season 2 follows the manga closely, it should be choke full of char development, this time with the opposite feel of season 1, with Abe crashing to his lows while Mihashi manning up.

    But, YAAAY for season 2 XD, I didn’t know until today. Argh, spring cannot come soon enough.

  13. AKI says:

    Glad you liked it! I’ve been anticipating that second for the longest time. **Fanboy Scream**

  14. Earl says:

    how does Major fare with all those other baseball animes you mentioned? I wanted to watch one baseball anime and I started with Major since I’ve heard it’s been a classic

  15. psgels psgels says:

    Earl: I’m not exactly a Major fan. I tried the first season, but it was too forced, the lead character was too god-moded and it didn’t really have anything to make up for it, unlike series as Touch, Cross Game, One Outs or Princess Nine.

  16. Earl says:

    I guess i’m not too concerned with the lead being too strong (you should prob stay away from season 2 he’s even more ridiculous there lol)

    I’ve watched one outs and it’s an interesting show. Which one do you prefer? Cross Game or this anime you’ve reviewed?

  17. RC says:

    According to Wikipedia, the mangaka has a degree in sports psychology, and it shows.

    I know what you mean about it being a page-turner: I don’t even like baseball, but I marathoned this over just a few days.

    Kanao: I don’t recall the anime differing from the manga at all.

  18. Alec says:

    I didnt quite understand the anime at first, but i already knew that this Anime is definitely good, and unique coz its doesnt rely with pichers like Goro(major),Hiro,Koh,Tatsuya( adachi’s baseball pitchers) and etc

    (the reason is most likely, Saizen fansubs dropping it without my knowledge and so i waited for months, without me even knowing it…neways in 3-4 months, I continued watching it, but I got out of touch from the anime)

    now im watching it again, so that I can fully understand this anime and the GAME too aswell… I’ve watched alot of baseball anime without even knowing the sport properly ( i thought i knew everything, but i wasnt)

    im currently rewatching the anime, and im at ep 6 right now. There will be no 3-4 months of break coz Il be marathoning it and (no subbers will drop it anymore coz its done xD)

    now, im even researching the terms, and stuff. now,i can say i fully understand baseball.
    and the only baseball anime that made me do that is Ookiku Furikabutte. Major S1-S5 didnt, Touch didnt, even H2 and Cross Game didnt, or One Outs….oh and I even forgot to mention Taishou Yakyu Musume lol xD

  19. Machi says:

    Thing about Mihashi as this quirky low-self confidence pitcher is that he’s actually the least conventional ace in an anime. Consider Koh for instance, or yes Goro from Major, both certainly have confidence in themselves and inspire members to try their best precisely because these two hold down the fort with their strength.

    They inspire others through their strength and become a pillar, making them an ideal ace precisely because they hold the team together. Mihashi on the other hand also has their talent and strength in pitching but he certainly lacks confidence big time.

    Yet, the thing is Mihashi still manages to inspire his team mates not because they end up admiring his strength but rather that he doesn’t particularly stand out from the rest. That he’s the same young teenager as his team mates but with very low self-confidence, but despite his low self-confidence he still manages to get on the mound. And in a sense he inspires because “if this guy who is not much different from me and has a pretty fatal flaw of such bad confidence could play and hold off the enemy well so can I!” or another would be that “This guy isn’t so strong or confident but he’s working hard and so I’d like to help him.”

    Mihashi then is the total polar opposite of other aces you’ve seen in sports anime. The fact that Mihashi is so down to earth and has his flaws so played out and exagerrated remind us that he’s no ace that lives at a totally different world from the rest, that he’s just a kid who works hard because he loves pitching so much.

    In a team thats pretty much new they don’t end up depending on him as an ace, they trust him but never end up depending on his performance solely to save their asses, that they end up forgetting that they also play a role.

  20. Oofuri lover says:

    incredible, incredible show.

    Warning: spoiler ahead about Ookiku Furikabutte and Major!

    i wasn’t into baseball at all(havent heard of ANY baseball school teams in my country), and wanted to try at least 1 baseball anime. Since so many people recommended it, saying its epic baseball etc, i watched Major S1 & part of S2. Result? i can’t remember where i watch until, because i was falling asleep. tried my best to finish watching all seasons, but jus couldn’t bear to waste anymore time on it. To be honest, Major is a pretty decent anime, maybe it might be that i watched too many animes, or maybe because i went into it purely for the baseball, it ended up being very boring for me when more than half of the time they’re portraying emotional drama background of the characters. i don’t mind God-like protagonists(hey i LOVE dragonball and its super saiyans, and they are like the epitome of God-Like), but it would help if the side characters aren’t jus following Goro around, waiting for him to save the day. If i want a emotional drama, there are tons out there better than Major, so no thanks. i can see how it got popular in japan, since many people who don’t do baseball will probably relate to Major simply because it is an anime that talks little about baseball compared to the leverage given to the characters’ background info(for god’s sake, we see Goro growing up from a little kid witnessing his parents’ deaths and being adopted & wow what a coincidence that my lifelong rival & future teammate happen to live in the same district as me. a tad touching, yes, but so obviously played out to make our hearts go out to that pitiful little kid. Nah, Capeta really did a better job on that one for me.)

    that said, if this is what i am going to get -> Major totally turned me off baseball animes for awhile.

    And then, WHAM came Ookiku Furikabutte(Oofuri for short). WHAM it suddenly came into my heart, and BOM its there to stay in my heart. 1st episode & it starts talking about baseball; & it manages to stay on-topic AND definitely still interesting while having all episodes revolving around baseball, how awesome is that??

    i finally gave in to watching it after many people recommended it to me; heck one friend is even on the Oofuri manga fansubbing team. Gosh, am i glad i watched it when the entire Season one has been completed for me to conveniently marathon over in a few days!

    As many others have mentioned; the great point of this anime is TEAMWORK and REALISM, a thing often found sorely lacking in animes(after watching 100+ of one piece episodes in a row, i was starting to worry im going loony like luffy).

    i agree with almost everything in your review, such as the 11 episodes poured into a single baseball match and it actually works. the match doesn’t feel overstretched; instead the 11 episodes devoted to it further emphasized to me how strenuous or intense a baseball match can be. There’s so many pluses in Oofuri, its hard not to write on and on, which would bore people especially since my post is already so long.

    So im gona focus on Ren-Ren. i can see how you dislike Ren-Ren & think the creators are over stretching it, can totally understand why people might loathe Mihashi. And yes, it would probably feel abit more natural if Mihashi can manage at least 3 to 5 WHOLE COHERENT sentences in one conversation without being prompted after he gained alittle confidence from being accepted as ace. (i would say that is one of the highlights im still waiting for in Oofuri)

    However, partly from my own personal experience and observances, there are really such awkward kids like Mihashi around. for 2 years, due to some circumstances i was really hated by some of my classmates(i was luckier than mihashi in that there were also people who stood up for me and the period i was hated for wasn’t during my crucial developing teenage years… but come to think of it, mihashi had kanou as well), so i can totally relate to mihashi in that aspect(though i must say, his lack of confidence is incredible); and well other aspects, our personalities completely differs, still i can understand cos there are such one or two people around me. It takes time and patience for someone to walk out of the darkness of being hated and completely brainwashed by almost everyone how completely worthless one is, which usually only people who have experienced it for themselves can understand. So, Mihashi is quite a realistic character to me, in that i can totally imagine such a guy exists. Also, loud speaking voices scares some people(not me; im actually the one who scares people like Mihashi sometimes when i forget myself & laughed loudly when excited. i can totally understand you, Abe!!!). Still, i look forward to him stringing together 5 continous coherent sentences without being prompted; it can be a rather jarring viewing experience to watch mihashi stumble his way throughout 25 episodes. At least he is improving, so after plus and minus, Mihashi is really a neutral point to me. It is jus abit painful at times that Oofuri is so real; it makes me recall some of my own past. Like mihashi’s secret longing to go back to the team that had hated him for so long, like hanai’s comments on how glad he met mihashi in high school rather than middle college or he would have ended up on the bullying side, like how Abe gets extremely frustrated with Mihashi & trying his best to remain patient, like how abe feels mihashi n him are jus different on a basic level, like hanai’s jealousy and self-consciousness over tajima’s inhuman skills and he concluded it is a good thing to feel that way so as to capitalize on those feelings to improve on his own skills, like how tajima can be so carefree and understanding of what mihashi’s quirks meant without mihashi having to say anything(THIS is so funny; tajima u’re my

  21. inkka says:

    I got lost form usually anime that on air now for many days bacause I was being marathon this although I have to stuck with many summer’s work in the same time(Ah…school). But this show win !! At last.. I watch it to end.

    It’s the first anime in this year that I success to marathon. That can guarantee that this show has something special that can captured my heart.

    The first.I finally understand everything in baseball because of this series! Before when I see the anime that involve baseball or the anime that has some of baseball eps. Only thing that I can think is ..It will be boring for sure.
    Although I watched Cross game.It didn’t help at all. OK the slice of life’s part of that series is very good.But when it going to baseball match. I suddenly become boring at it.(I want to confess that I stop watch cross game around ep 30+ and can’t make it to completed T_T Hey..It has 51 eps.It’s too much for me.)
    Ok I didn’t give up.I tried to understand it by search and learn from internet.But at last. It can’t help.

    But this series change my mind forever. When I watch this series. I’m very exciting. Hey Exciting from baseball? It isn’t the thing that look a bit impossible? But It can happened in this series. Although It’s so long like…11 eps.But It can delivered !! I didn’t boring at all. Opposite. I’m very excited and happy to watch it. and with its detailed in every match…I’m become more interesting in baseball now.and begin to think that…This is the true power,true fun form baseball. isn’t it?

    About main pitcher. Mihashi-kun.(moe moe ~) although you complain about it. But if he didn’t have the personality or skill like this. You couldn’t see teamwork.The thing that’s one of the promising thing in this series for sure.

    You see. Usually the baseball anime that mainly focus on main picther or main batter. and what is the result? You will totally forgot about other player. more worse result is. You can’t concern about their win too much. because you didn’t know about the others enough. and the worst result is This can stand at the thing that called baseball anime? because even you can’t make yourself fun in baseball match…Sometime I see baseball anime often called at slice of life/drama anime instead.

    Haha+ this’s very opposite form this series. that in the last ep. You can remembered all of players in the team and some of their personality and their bachground.(And sometimes you can remembered the other team player too. wow..).They’re very charming.

    And at least they didn’t abandoned character development side.they intend to make character development at Mihashi. to make him to be more likeable lead. and it’s very success for me.You will see that from the first to last ep. He is more grow up.

    The last.This really awaken my BL fangirls side!! It’s like..disappeared half of year before. But it come back because of this series. AbeXmihashi Banzai !! they’re really lovely couple.I love them.

    “Watching season 2 now.” That is all that I want to say.

  22. jester says:

    I loved this anime, its really well done in terms of the characters and setting and animation. Yes Mihashi can get on my neverves a lot the time, but the other characters make up for that annoyance. I absolutely love tajima he is simply so hilarious. It really does well talking about sports psychology and takes advantage of every teams weakness. For example, the only reason that Nishiura beat Tosei was because Tosei underestimated Nishiura-> this gave them a bad start on top of that, they also underestimated Nishiuras batters and that gave away points. So it makes sense how a freshman newbie team was able to beat the stronger team. In addition didn’t Nishiura do research on all the batters and use that against them? So that helped them to win too. Also in the second season, Nishiura’s winning streak gets put down by their own weakness: the overdependent pitcher who only relys on the catcher’s signals. Their opponent then, Bijou takes advantage of that thoroughly and beats NIshiura with a whopping 11-6 score..

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SuperMario
On that note, apart from the 3 shows I'n currently covering (Eccentric Family, Tsuki ga Kirei and ID-0), I will give a full review on Grimoire of Zero, a show that I feel rather difficult to pinpoint exactly on its quality.
SuperMario
Can't believe we approaching the final week of this current season. Gonna be a busy week of blogging with the usual weekly posts plus the final impressions.
SuperMario
@Anon1206174: I agree with you on both counts. And Sakura Quest has never been bad, but it could have been deeper and less messy. If you plan to watch ID-0 (I suggest you do), don't get your expectation too high because it works much better when you expect nothing of it. Like each episode I was genuinely surprised how good ID-0 actually is.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember one of Aidan's visual novel posts where he said theres potentially hundreds of VNs un-translated and LNs too, makes me wonder just how much un-translated manga we are missing out on.
Anonymous1206174
The ID-o posts sound pretty interesting, I am really thinking of dropping Sakura and watching this instead. Really loved the beginnign of Sakura and that abandoned town atmosphere it had, but I am not feeling it anymore. The recent episode about Shiori was great again though..
Kaiser-Eoghan
*looking
Then again he's an extremely forgetable person.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh Godammit, looing back over my comments I meant to say Souta not Setsuna, I suck at remembering non-English names.
Anonymous1205999
Meh - I really like this season but I already have my first cases of 'good-show-disappointing-ending/second half'
Anonymous1206022
KT Here:RE:Creators , we need to know more about the rules for Altair to see if that works. It might, and it might not. With what they know they have a good plan. But I was thinking why not just do a Super Smash Bros type game with the characters? I am sure that would generate enough stuff in order to lock her.
SuperMario
On Re:Creators, I find a better solution instead of going all cross-media like the show suggests. Someone could just make some fan-fiction on Altair that purposely show her weakness (like get busted when expose to the sun, or the magic word that render her skills useless). Less efforts, more effective
SuperMario
Man, I agree wholeheartedly with what KT said here: mass media actually sells, so it keeps the industry to a more stable position; then the art-house/more adult oriented anime can have some freedom to do what they like.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its more that I have to read it all at the same time as expecting action to come , it might change my mind if I watched it in English.
Anonymous1205580
KT here: I accept the mass media because it raises the funds for the less mainstream stuff I like. That is how I make my peace.

On RE:Creators. I get what you guys say. But for some reason I do not find the exposition heavy in this series. Every person has his own limit I guess
Alonaria
@Kaiser: Yep, that sounds about right, lol. I take my Sheldon in concentrated doses. I might give the Young Sheldon spin off an episode or two because it's highly exaggerated but still somewhat relatable to me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel big bang theory is a show for people who know nothing about nerds/nerd culture to find funny.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And then theres this thing about Sheldon being some kind of autism spectrum thing , which is kind of annoying to hear when I am on the spectrum myself and never really found the character all that amusing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Probably not the strongest reason to go off a show but, it was people around me going on and on about big bang theory that eventually put me off it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
lol is it any surprise Miura and the hunter x hunter guy take so many breaks =P
Alonaria
*Sheldon
Alonaria
I pick and choose Big Bang episodes that I enjoy. Shelden in the ball pit never ceases to amuse me. Still, it's definitely overrated haha.
Lenlo
IT Crowd > Modern Big Bang. Early Big Bang was good.

And yes, the work conditions in the Manga Industry are terrible. Oda, One Piece Mangaka, works stupid hours. He requests his assistances be "Willing to die for One Piece" because of the amount of work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And hell yeah"! someone else thats hates on big bang theory.
IT crowd > big bang.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more safer
Kaiser-Eoghan
And yet now here I am at same time, I think it might be kind of a shame that I can't see the value and fun anymore in some less safer offerings.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I thinking I might go insane if I looked up comments defending the visuals in occultic; nine.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hate to say it but sometimes opinions, mainstream ones are actually wrong. Its a fact that superhero films have bad action scenes and cinematography and Hardboiled, a chinese action film is better filmed in terms of choreography.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As dickish as this is to say, I really do recoil when ssomeone says something like the Notebook or fifty shades is the best film of all time/their favourite.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See theres also factoring in the people whos favourite film or anime of all is the most recent they finished.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember mentioning recently that I was re-watching the twilight zone, the response I got was "I thought that you were talking about twilight"
Kaiser-Eoghan
See thats whats so great about being able to talk about more niche stuff online, theres an easier to find common ground.
AidanAK47
In general when it comes to mass popular opinion it's the tried and true safe stuff that ends up selling. The highest selling Mario games are the New Super Mario ones. The same generic Light novel and harems keep selling. There are plenty of examples but majority opinion tends to gravitate to the safe and familiar.
Kaiser-Eoghan
See, most (offline) people (and or teenagers)who aren't really all that interested in film or don't look into it that much will turn out for things like fifty shades, transformers or twilight, thats why those are popular. Most people aren't going to watch something made more than a few years ago or subtitled.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh...lol fuck thats a blunder...yes I meant Re:creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But by all means, people are fully entitled to like what they like. But there is a reason why so much rubbish gets popular.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Re:Creators.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As someone who would actually consider themselves creative and interested in things being imaginative I really do hate the whole anti-creativity /anti-art, anti-intelligence movement and way of thinking that allows un-deservedly popular things like what Aidan mentioned to fester.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yes Re:zero's poor pacing and leaden dialogue is becoming too dominant and there should be more action, its good Setsuna opened up, but I still don't particularly like him.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine the magazines/editors probably consider themselves the writers sometimes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pretty sure I only read nisekoi because I was keeping up with conversations about it, then dropped it before the Chitoge doublie showed up, just stopped reading.
AidanAK47
On the matter of Re:Creators, I feel the same as the Anon said. I find the exposition to just drone on far too much.
AidanAK47
On the matter of the manga industry being shit...it is. Manga in general is great but Jesus Christ the industry is a mess. Work conditions are utterly abhorrent and it's even worse that most series live or die based on a magazine popularity poll.
Because just because something is popular, does not mean it is quality. Example: Transformers, Twilight, Fifty shades, Sword Art Online, Big Bang theory
AidanAK47
@Anon, Still not getting your logic here. I mean if I have a problem with it after trying it then why am I not allowed to complain about it? Anyway it is only popular for the pandering. Even those who like Nisekoi admit that it's a mediocre harem and they mainly enjoy the waifu wars on the internet.
SuperMario
and now we will resort to illegal streaming sites for this one. "Piracy is almost always a service problem and not a pricing problem", this f*cking true
SuperMario
Huh? Welcome to the Ballroom Anime Gets Amazon Prime-Only Streaming Inside and Outside Japan. Now that just unbearable
SuperMario
Don't know about this new Re:Creators episode since I haven't watched it, but I don't really mind Meteora. Her dialogues scream "exposition" but she still fits well to the story. The fights are good, I agree, but why didn't they go all the way with the world's collapse last episode?
Anonymous1202407
Whether Nisekoi is pandering or not, it is not enough proof for you to suggest that manga industry is shit. If u want good mainstream then its not that hard to find. Also for every success like Nisekoi which u claim to be pandering, there are dozen like it that failed to be popular. Why? Because it clearly is popular for a reason other than just simple pandering.
SuperMario
Ha, Ping Pong. I need that kind of show again in my life.
Lenlo
Also, Ping Pong is amazing.
Lenlo
Theres a difference between pandering to a large audience, and an anime/manga with a quality story that everyone ends up liking. Ive always found moe shows and things like Nisekoi to be the former.
Anonymous1202407
If you have a problem with it after trying it just dont read it. Its that simple. Also what a surprise that a show like nisekoi that appeals to a large demographic is popular. U want the mangaka to apologize it's not some art house story like Ping Pong?
Lenlo
Meteora is pretty hit or miss with her dialogue imo. Sometimes its great, othertimes its not. I can say though I enjoy most of the fights.
Anonymous1202113
I really want to like Re:Creators. To be honest though, I'm getting tired of the dialogue. It has its high points, but it sometimes just seems to drone on and on, especially with all of Meteora's "hypotheses."
KT
Both Bahamut and RE:Creators had great episodes. But I was indeed mentally screaming Super Smash Bros at RE:Creators. You will get the point when you watch the episode.
AidanAK47
Taken on it's own, Nisekoi is harmless. But it is undeniably proof that you need not be creative or innovative to succeed in the industry. In fact declaring creative bankruptcy could turn more fruitful than genuine effort.
AidanAK47
And I said how can you decide you don't like something if you haven't read it?
Of course you are likely mean that if you don't like something then give up on reading it further which of course does not mean that someone cannot complain about it regardless.
Anonymous1198985
No, Im said if you dont like nisekoi dont read it
AidanAK47
@Anon, How do you know you don't like it if you don't read it?
Anonymous1196967
Don't like it don't read it.
AidanAK47
I went and read Double Arts. This really was a great manga with tons of potentail and truly didn't deserve the axe. It's so depressing that this was cut off so soon and the author went on to make the most generic Harem ever Nisekoi, and that got over 200 chapters.
Lenlo
All of the important dance scenes for Yuri were fantastic, its just some minor one off characters and some reused ones that were an issue, so no they are better than the CGI
Anonymous1190387
Is it worse than those CGI dance scenes in some anime?
AidanAK47
@Puran, It is pretty surprising how well that story turns out. I say IG might do the job even if there animation isn't the most consistent. The one thing I am worried about is those necks though. In the PV those things were ridiculously long.
Puran
Fair enough, recycling the animation was bad, agreed. But the animation itself was really good.
Lenlo
See, I found the repeated dances in Yuri one of the worse parts. Alot of it was recycled animation and certain characters were obviously rushed/not done. Some were amazing, cause they took their time, but others looked terrible.
Puran
I kinda wish Mappa was doing the anime though. Yuri on Ice had really nicely animated dances (and was more or less the only actually good quality of that show :P )
Puran
Reading the Ballroom e Youkoso manga has made me really excited about the Anime.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Aidan: I'm particularly turned off by bully/bullying cliches these days. I've only read the first two volumes to see how awful she was but I ended up simply losing track of the series and stopped reading.
Kaiser_Eoghan
@Mario: Actually that has changed, I had to pick a different day to see it given changes in schedule, I've booked it for NEXT Wednesday now. I've watched Akira about four times.
AidanAK47
Oh, Rising of the Shield Hero is getting an anime adaption. Hmmm...honestly after finishing the series and looking over it as a whole I am not sure I even want that. Plus seeing Bitch Animated...would fill me with rage.
SuperMario
I intend to re-watch Akira soon, probably this weekend. It has been almost 10 years since my first watch and now I don't remember much about that one. Thought it was intriguing and complex but not as acclaimed as people hyped it to be (I'll pick Ghost in the Shell anytime). Wonder how I'd feel now after re-watching it.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I remember you mentioned that you were going to watch In this Corner of the World today right? How was the movie Kaiser?
Lenlo
Oh cool, food wars is getting a 3rd season
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ballroom youkoso appears to be leading the polls.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Fumiko is a female mangaka yes. Also I found bokura no hentai worth reading.
SuperMario
yep, I finished that manga too and I have conflicted feeling about it. Yuri(!) part and fanservice are to blatant but they have a purpose. This mangaka (not sure but I think she's a girl) has some unique voice.
AidanAK47
....well I skimmed that manga. And it was weird
SuperMario
By all appearances,Sakura is normal,albeit sheltered junior high school girl who enjoy talking about love and walking home from school together.However,they also happen to inhabit a strange and supernatural world populated by mysterious,gigantic beings and unusual plant and animal life.Amid their peaceful lives,Sakura becomes very interested in something only alluded to exist in old books: dicks
SuperMario
Here's a synopsis of other manga from the same author, I think you'll have a better idea of his theme -
Sakura no Sono
AidanAK47
Pretty much what Masky said. I am not really praising it. Anyway I plan to read one or two more chapters to see where it's going. But if it's going in the direction I think it's going then I am dropping this one fast.
Kaiser_Eoghan
There is of course the underlying concern that it will go a very ugly route with that development or it could become edgy/horribly minipulative, but for now it is as mario said, a hook.
SuperMario
Well. overall I don't dislike what I read there. It has good hook and I'm intrigued to know more what the hell will happen. Good set-up for me. I'm in
SuperMario
@Masky: it's fine Masky, since I will chec itk out any way and see it for myself ^^
Masky
So since you guys started being interested, I checked it out and uh.. Yeah, not reading. I think ye guys misunderstood Aidans warnings since that was just fucked up and not in the interesting way.
Lenlo
@Aidan: Berserk will never again go more than 3-4 months without a hiatus.
SuperMario
Hmmm, that manga Cutie Mutie sounds good to me. I might check it out later today
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: But had you not alluded to that scene, I may have seen the cover of that manga and skipped over it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I had a feeling, sort of, sad, I am intrigued to read more.
AidanAK47
Hyping and warning are not the same thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well with Aidan hyping up the horrors of cutie mutie I may as well glance at it to see what he' on about.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There are three manga with the name rec.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am familiar with the artist for cutie mutie, she did that manga about the three kids dealing with gender/orientation issues.
AidanAK47
Oh look Berserk is on Haitus again....
.....the sad thing is that it comes as expected now.
AidanAK47
For reference the two I read were Cutie Mutie and Rec. Be warned, the first one goes to a rather uncomfortable level.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Read two manga. One started lighthearted and then went to really dark territory. The other one looks like it's about a really dark subject but turned out to be something more lighthearted.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Alright. Tested it now so it such be fixed. Try again.
Masky
@Aidan: Huh? What you read that turned dark/didn't turn dark? .-.
SuperMario
"too many answers selected for question 1! only 3 answers allowed!"
SuperMario
@Aidan: I still have the same issues. Weird
AidanAK47
@Mario, Wasn't my intent. Try it now and you should be able to pick as many as you want.
SuperMario
@Aidan: I'm not allowed to vote more than 3 votes. Is it your intention Aidan?
AidanAK47
Well that was weird. I read something that looked innocent but turned out to be really dark. Then something that looked really dark only to become innocent.
Masky
Yeah, nothing that interests me I see :D Like my strongest reaction to season preview was "Someone made isekai with smartphone? Really? REALLY? Thats best idea you had"
Masky
Ah Knighs and Magic, found that manga. It was boring enough for me to forget its name. Also besides being boring, I kinda find MC unlikeable since their only personality is that they like mechas and were a programmer before renicarnating as short bishie kid
Masky
Woo, time to vote stuff
SuperMario
@Kaiser: that movie In this Corner just getting more and more acclaimed huh? Thou I think it'a a type of movie that if you have high expectation for it you will likely be disappointed. It works best as a sleeper hit
SuperMario
As for cute monster girls, most of the time I don't find them cute at all. I know I'm being racist, but...
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm guilty with that cute girls genre, as i enjoyed K-On tremedously for example. Or If I have more time I'd follow Hinako Note this season ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
They don't always adapt all that well or work as well outside of manga format, especially 4-komas.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*three
Kaiser-Eoghan
The only two of any interest were hidamari sketch, azumanga daioh and yuru yuri and that was largely down to being in the mood for them a few years ago.
Lenlo
@Mario: Personally, I have 0 interest in this Monster girls doing cute things subgenre, just like I have very little interest in the cute girls doing cute things major genre.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As it turns out I DID read in this corner of the world. I'll also be seeing it next thursday.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: at this moment I'm very skeptical with the whole Monster girls doing cute girl subgenre, so I'm approachig Centaur with a caution. Of course, it all depends on how I feel after the first episode
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Happy End isn't as bleak aa his other works. But it's certainly Hanake's films, as it explores many of his favorite themes: the voyeurist of camera in his Benny's video, the detachment to the world and the underlying violence. Not his best thou but it's still very good
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I'd be up for watching jigoku shojo, its been a long time since I watched the original two seasons and this one won't be as long, so it won't get as repetitive.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I voted centaur no nanami on the poll, think Mario could cover it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: How did did you get on with Happy end? I heard its like a mix of his best works. Is it as dark and depressing?
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have vague memories of in the corner of the worlds manga, unless I'm mixing it up with something else.
SuperMario
Some news, Lu Over the Wall won the best prize at this year's Annecy (the 1st anime won the award since 1995's Pom Poko), with In the Corner of the World took the Jury Prize. Quite a good showing for anime this year.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Hello.
SuperMario
Really, still no vote for Kakegurui?? I thought it would take the top poll for sure
SuperMario
That 18if, even the poster doesn't make much sense, but it looks dazzling ^^
Lenlo
go-go licensed products!
SuperMario
@Lenlo: and Madhouse is the studio behind that Marvel rip-off. Are they really going that low for profits?
Lenlo
Lookin forward to Kakeguri next season, but thats the only thing thats really caught my eye
Lenlo
Well, you have to watch Marvel next season right?
AidanAK47
And done. I swear these previews take a lot out of me.
AidanAK47
Almost done....almost done...
KT
Attack of Titan, ended ok. But man the production values had gone down.

Virgin Soul had a okish episde

Re:Creators continues to rock for me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I liked the 70s version ending, it was mean spirited =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The original used its one room location quite well and dim lighting in parts, very closed in/claustrophobic.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: just finished the Beguiled and it was much better than I expected. Like, I didn't expect it to be that well shot. The guy was put in a passive role than active here, which help the theme imo. Also, the ending admitedly isn't for everyone but I liked it just fine
SuperMario
@Kaiser: using a black girl? The girls in this one are all white :(
AidanAK47
Sato in Re:Creators isn't doing himself any favors is he? Honestly the more I learn about him, the less likable he becomes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It was a good film though, one of scarjos better moments.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: As for Sofia, I'm only familiar with lost in translation, which I haven't seen since it originally came out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Everyone goes on about Francis' for the Godfather, the conversation is massively underated and apocalypse now is better, but it has to be the theatrical cut.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I guess it was probably seen as progressive in its day by way of using the black girl.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Very very cynically 70s of course.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Actually just happened to finish it there, I felt it stood out for its somewhat successful gothic feel and aesthetic and Eastwood's performance which shows how well he can command the audiences attention even when he isn't shooting people. Kind of liked how it got slightly grisly later on. It makes a small effort in giving one line backstories .
SuperMario
@Kaiser: the original movie isn't that well-received. It's more like an exotica film where the main guy (Clint Eastwood) hooks up girls of all ages. This one I heard has a good spin on feminist angle. I'm sure is intrigued but Sofia Coppola's filmography has been mixed for me
Kaiser-Eoghan
....I doubt any one has ever heard of this....I know I didn't, I haven't read it either but I came across some weird old Blacksploitation manga, probably from the 90s, Blast knuckle or something...
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Still remaking the beguiled might be good, we need more modern westerns.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I suppose I can busy myself with the original 70s version of beguiled. At the moment I've been focusing on old Japanese films, they had such a good film industry, it makes it hurt so much more now knowing that all they do now is shit live action adaptations.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: gonna be a long day for me with the screenings of The Beguiled, Wind River, The Other Side of Hope and Happy End
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now I need to re-watch 08th ms team.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I watched 4 hours straight of Gundam the origin, hit me with a hard punch of nostalgia, actually seeing his backstory rather than hearing about it is a good thing, I enjoyed the action scenes, it was high-melodrama but well used and more Char is always a good thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I'll just put Kado on hold for now and see whats being said about future episodes of it, I'm too unsure of it being worth it or not at the moment.
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