Posted by psgels on 26 March 2010 with categories: Ookami Kakushi



Of course I was excited when I learned that a new series written by Ryukishi07 would premiere this Winter Season. His work on Higurashi and Umineko was brilliant. Well, as it turns out, the only similarity between Ookami Kakushi is a bit of a similar setting. Apart fro that, it’s completely different. And yeah, I agree that change is good, but it still feels like I’ve been wasting my time with this series.

And sure, there are some good ideas in it. The whole story about a divided town in the middle of nowhere, in which everyone acts so creepingly nice towards the main character who just moved in there. It has definitely potential to get somewhere, but this series never uses it and instead opts for a watered-down plot that gets less impressive with each progressive episode.

There are many culprits for this one, but my biggest problem with this series are its main character and main villain. Let me start with the former. Even though he’s the central character to the story, this guy… just doesn’t do anything. Seriously, every time something serious happens, he just stand there and looks. He never acts, he never tries to think of something, he never accomplishes something. He’s just… there. His central role in the series makes no sense and feels artificial at best. On top of that, the worst thing probably is that we never get to learn anything about him. At the end of the series, I knew as little about his life as at the start.

The villain, on the other hand, is ridiculously stupid. His motivations are cheesy and are just explained with one lazy line. His plans are full of holes and not clearly thought through. In fact, most of the adults in this series degenerate into complete idiots by the end of the series, just in order to have the various kids of the series in the centre of the conflict. As a result, the ending just makes no sense and is stuffed with a bunch of ridiculous plot twists.

The final nail in this series’ coffin for me was the acting, which was mediocre at the times where this series needed to deliver the most; especially the final third of this series suffered from rushed acting that failed to convey any emotions beyond the cheesy. While I feel like I cared about the characters in the beginning, but eventually they lost all believability due to the lukewarm execution. I guess that Ryukishi07 wanted to try out the shounen genre in this one, but he pretty much failed at it in my opinion.

Storytelling: 6/10 – Cheesy, never gets more interesting after its introduction.
Characters: 7/10 – Some characters have potential, but the lead character is useless, the lead villain is a paper bag and the adults are complete morons.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Hardly any animation errors, but nothing special.
Setting: 8/10 – The concept is nice enough. If the execution was right this could have had a lot of potential.

20 Responses

  1. PL says:

    I know this is a pretty low score for you, but 72 still actually falls into your “watchable but nothing special” category, and this show really wasn’t watchable. I kept on and on with it because I wanted to like it so badly due to ryukishi07’s involvement. Higurashi and Umineko are masterpieces, and especially if umineko ever gets that second season it so badly deserves. Every time a major plot twist loomed on the horizon, I thought, “Ok, here’s where the complexity is going to step in and surprise the hell out of me” and then it didn’t, over and over for 12 episodes. Well, actually 11 because I gave up on anything happening after the main character’s corny, cheesey speech about everybody loving each other or whatever. “I learned to respect people who are different from me” blah. yuck. ookami kakushi is not bad enough to be good and not good enough to be good either. It just muddles around in this vanilla, boringness that wasted about 4 1/2 hours of my life. And that sucks, because I really had high expectations for this one.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    I guess that the difference with me is that my expectations were pretty much gone after about four episodes or so. Despite the good start, I quickly saw that it wasn’t going to be as good as Higurashi or Umineko, especially because of its incredibly short length. When you don’t have stellar expectations, it still had its enjoyable parts in around the first half, and a number of the side-characters weren’t half-bad.

    I can understand your point as well, though. When you expect something as good as Higurashi or Umineko for every single episode, then yeah. This show is going to end up as one heck of a disappointment.

  3. PL says:

    I have a bad habit of getting excited about something because the first episode rocks (ie. sacred blacksmith) or the people/company involved in the production (Ookami kakushi, every sucky movie made by Mamoru Oshii–who has a surprisingly crappy record despite also having made at least two of the most brilliant anime films ever made) and then holding out hope way after its been dashed to the rocks…

  4. Alec says:

    it had an interesting first ep, but the rest are all pure BS…an anime not worth watching. an anime easily forgotten

  5. would says:

    “it still feels like I’ve been wasting my time with this series. ” – that’s something I realised with first two episodes. I’m surprised you managed to watch all episodes of this “something”.

  6. mds says:

    so,the main problem here is not with the Okamoto’s lousy adaptation ,but with the original material itself?

  7. Meep says:

    Amen to this review. I didn’t bother watching most of the last episode..there was just nothing more.

  8. cx says:

    you actually finished that.

  9. Acylia says:

    I second what cx said. I’m amazed you managed to finish it! It probably would’ve gotten a much lower score from me. xD

  10. m says:

    The show’s writing was almost consistently mediocre so my expectations for it were that of a serialized, cheap mystery thriller. I think that it mostly lived up to those, though the final elements weren’t as interesting as I had expected. After the suspense was depleted it continued through the motions until its inevitable ending, and even threw in a cheesy monologue at the end*.

    The protagonist was weak and mostly useless, and even he and his family realized this and it was supposed to be a crowning achievement for him when he manned up, but that still fell flat. However, I think anime leads in general are usually really weak and non-threatening or annoyingly self-righteous, so this character flaw wasn’t that special to me. If I had to choose between uni-dimensionally single-minded idealism to a non-threatening kid that displays hardly any bravery after moving to a town where people are regularly murdered by magic, then I would choose the latter because it’s less annoying.

    Plus, who didn’t get a laugh when the protagonist and his generic female human comrade don’t nod their heads at each other when they decide to follow the wolf pack to chase the villain, when the others have superhuman speed and he’s completely useless? That was pretty hilarious, right? There’s no need to fear, we’ll help save the day!

    I thought it was watchable, at least in the sense that I watched it, and I only really watched three shows** this season. If there had been something that looked as good but was written well I wouldn’t have bothered, but when the pickings are thin, a forgettable show that looks good*** is acceptable for disposable television.

    Now I wouldn’t suggest the show to anyone, I am not inclined to buy the discs, and I hope beyond all hope that I manage to forget that I watched the show by this time next year, but I have seen much worse. Plus, while I still can’t stand Umineko, the repeated references to Higurashi no Naku Koroni forced me to sit down and watch all of that and Kai (but not Rei), and that had some reasonably entertaining parts. It shares some of the key defects of Ookami-kakushi, like a really poorly-motivated villain, a weak protagonist, and some plotholes, but it was less prominent within a much more imaginative setting with an edgier story, and full of misdirection so it was much more interesting. Besides the limited time available to him in Ookami-kakushi, I don’t think the author is very good at linear storytelling, and that this is just less obvious in his preferred setting of repetition with deviation.

    * I have no intention of ever watching the final, post-storyline episode.

    ** There are some better shows running, like FMA that I follow the manga of, and only watch episodes irregularly along with the occasional OVA or episode of something else.

    *** Except for the really lazy curve parametrization used for any object deemed a vehicle. Those paths are terrible.

  11. Solaris says:

    After all i can’t defend this show. I expected a lot from R07 and Peach Pit, but alas, we this show has too many flaws. Of course there’s a lot of better stuff out there, but yet the show wasn’t that terrible. The fault is to blame on the direction rather thab on the plot in my opinion. I guess the original VN is sure somehow much better.

  12. Bummer…After watching Higurashi, I was hoping this one would be just as good, if not better.

  13. AKI says:

    It’s not the material; Peach Pit’s mangas are goodie good (Rozen Maiden, Zombie Loan). It’s the adaptation that sucked. I was already expecting it to be bad right after the second episode. Guess I’m a masochist since the last episode’s still queued at my BT. Good luck to me.

  14. temperus says:

    It’s in the Railgun tier for me, stuff that really drops the ball every way imaginable but has just enough to it to prevent it from being a total catastrophe despite being quite mediocre.

    But really it was only slightly worse than the other junk airing this season, like Woto, Bund, LadyButt, Todoke and BakaTest.. but at least those had other “redeeming” features for their intended audiences and should find more apologists than naysayers.

  15. Firechick says:

    I was considering watching this show before it aired, but I never got the time for it. Now I know I won’t be watching it.

  16. chounokoe says:

    The anime is at fault here!!
    It’s a real pity that most people will never get to read the original material as it really avoids most of the flaws that this adaption did.

    I would almost claim that among all recent Visual Novel 12 episode adaptions (Chaos;head, 11eyes and Ôkamikakushi) this one is definitely the worst.
    They cut out almost all character development, we never learn why Kaori is sick, how Mana got into her wheelchair, why Isuzu fell in love with Hiroshi, why Nemurus father is so damn old…heck even most stuff about the Kamibito isn’t even explained.
    Have a look at this (http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=158618) alone to get an idea what the anime left out.

    The anime made up it’s own continuity and failed HORRIBLY.
    So I can at least say, while Ôkami might not have been his best, Ryukishi at least did a solid job on the VN…sadly this will go under.

  17. jose says:

    well this anime wasn’t a masterpiece but at lest it was entertaining for me ,i am glad i watched this and i agree thia isn’t the greatest thing in the world but finally it was quite interesting with enjoyable moments of slice of life and that was enough for me

  18. PL says:

    “It shares some of the key defects of Ookami-kakushi, like a really poorly-motivated villain, a weak protagonist, and some plotholes”

    I’d say the protagonist in Higurashi is never nearly as weak or vanilla as “Hakase-kun” and when he mans up in the latter half of the show, he really freaking mans up. The scene on the rooftop with Reina still gives me chills… Plus, watching him go completely insane in the very first arc gave some really interesting development to his character.

  19. constanryuk says:

    i finished the series and found nothing special too…what i don’t understand is that why is the sound effect before the execution like that? it sounded as if there were lovers trying to kiss each other but ending not because other characters are interfering…can somebody please explain to me the urban legend of those wolves?

  20. iamachessaddict says:

    i liked the art and the music. i could also see where they were trying to go with this concept so i liked the series until about the last 2 plot-based episodes. the fact that a dam randomly appears out of nowhere just ticked me off.
    i think the series had potential but people got lazy.
    the series is analogous to a poorly executed joke. you get the joke but the person told the joke so poorly that you don’t laugh.

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@Aidan: Would you in any way recommend snatcher (I think that counts as a visual novel) or is it a dated product of its time. On a side note I love the soundtrack.
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Subarashiki Hibi is getting published by Front Wing. Hell goddamn yes. Finally I can read it and be traumatised for life.
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mm okay thanks!
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@Anon1, Think you might just have to go with a torrent. It's pretty hard to find direct download anime these days.
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the latest episode of rakugo just made my heart sank. i didn't think it would get better than it already is. i thank god that i didn't read ahead
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the same very thought here Lenlo. What I considered the weakest part turned out to be so layered. Sorry for ever doubting you, Rakugo.
Lenlo
And that smirk at the end, beautiful
Lenlo
The weakest plot point of S1 has just become the best part ever.
Lenlo
OOH MAN. I was not ready. The entire first season was all a setup. I cant. What. HOW DOES IT GET BETTER
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Cant wait to watch Rakugo tonight, just got home and im lookin forward to it,.
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I think before grabbing the protest signs it might be worth considering if the thing you are demanding be uncensored is even worth it. Oh yeah, now you can see genitalia in crap sex scenes that were crow bared into the plot. No more need to use your imagination.
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There are people actively proclaiming they won't buy the game, because they can't see dicks. That is not hyperbole. This is literally exactly whats happening here. And they just act so goddamn self righteous about it. Porn is not the goddamn point of these games. Shouldn't even be in them in the first place.
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I mean the spoiler code in the comment section. ^^. Like I don't mind if readers give (potential) spoilers but I don't want to ruin the fun of other readers as well
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I remember some HTML code worked with the old shoutbox but nope. But I suppose you could change the colour of text to white...though that would effect everything you write.
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... my roommate just told me the background music when I'm watching Hand Shakers sounds like a bad porno... Now I can't unhear it. Fuck!
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Just really wonder, what are other anime sites that you guys follow beside this? Well, ANN and RandomC are a given, but I found myself haven't bothered to read ANN's episodic reviews lately (mostly due to time constraint)
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Don't tell me this is gonna be a regular thing.
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Mine is working probably as well. Thanks a bunch K-Off and glad to hear back from you.
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Cleared my cache and it looks to be fixed. Thanks as always K-Off. I would be completely screwed without you around.
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AidanAK47 I can't get into Fate since like with Nanoha there's a lot of stuff with those names in it. Zero was the most straightforward, yet the buildup was very dragout but the payoffs where very worthy.
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AidanAK47
This is what I get for updating the bloody plugin.....
AidanAK47
He finished it and was telling me what he thought of Saber defeating Gilgamesh. Minute he said that I was like "OH GOD..." He watched the Deen 2006 adaption. Sadly it loos like he's not going to bother watching UBW TV despite me showing him part of the berserker fight. With Fate/Extra, Fate/Grand Order, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Oath under the snow and all the rest this problem will happen again.
AidanAK47
You know I wish the Fate series did a better job naming it's series. I was introducing a newbie so I gave him Fate/Zero first. He loved it so I specifically told him to watch the UBW TV Series and don't mistake it for the movie. He then went and watched the movie. I told him to watch the TV series regardless and brought up the MAL page to show him which one.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, there's definately no harm in doing further reading on more arthouse stuff before reviewing it/watching/after watching, it extends our understanding and is pretty much required.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Go for it, you might sell me on reading it.
Kaiser Eoghan
Yeah, I generally only write reviews every now and then, and they tend to be kept simple and to 200-300 words. My writing ability only really works when I write in stream of consciousness.
Anonymous855550
Zestiria is such a feast for the eyes... The colors and backgrounds are so vivid and magnificent. Story has improved on the game's weaknesses too!
Lenlo
Given enough time, im sure I could write something, but as I writer I tend towards quick, decisive statements of what I think and why. Engineer, so technical documents are like the only thing I know how to write.
Topgavin
@Supermario ah, I'd say I'm the opposite in that I sometimes don't know why I like something so much, and when I read a review about it I can relate my own experiences and put it in my own words pretty well. Can thank Highschool eco for that
SuperMario
But to tell you guys the truth, I never think that I'm cut out as a reviewer (even now), because I'm a type of viewer who more perceive (I know why I like/ don't like stuffs) than express (just can't never explain stuffs well)
SuperMario
@Topgavin: it's depending on what grabbing you really; as I always find shows with heavy symbolisms like Penguindrum or Flip Flappers the easiest to dig deeper. But those are always my kind of show to begin with
Topgavin
I'd find it really hard to write something about a show without reading about it first; watching it one time by myself I usually only notice the big things. Stuff like Flip Flappers I had no clue what half the episode's hidden meanings were, can't imagine reviewing a show like NGE or penguindrum.
SuperMario
that's exactly how I write my reviews anyways
Lenlo
I cant imagine writing a review, id just repeat myself with different words but the same intended meaning over and over again
AidanAK47
Wonder if I should write a review of this. Might be hard without giving too much away.
AidanAK47
(Finishes Sweetest monster Visual novel)
.....well....fuck.
(Buys all authors visual novels on steam.)
Lenlo
Sadly, I doubt Nioh will get a PC port. Sony is pretty stingy on their exclusives, like Bloodborne. But I am so very happy with Nioh. I love technical combat like this
Kaiser Eoghan
I suppose this means I'm looking into this rpg maker game thing now isn't it? Might aswell.
Kaiser Eoghan
I remember the word animerican used to describe things like avatar last airbender. Filthy word =P
Anonymous853606
God no. Jiro Taniguchi died.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I have been hearing very good things about Nioh. Really hoping it gets a PC port.
@Topgavin, No real surprises there.
Topgavin
I'm sure most of you have heard, but looks like New Game is getting a season 2 out of all things. Apparently they had good sales, and I can certainly see why. CGDCT with yuri undertones and clean animation is hard to get wrong, let alone not sell.
Lenlo
Just started with Nioh, and oh my goodness do I love it.
Anonymous852887
anyone play resident evil 7? its so good.
AidanAK47
Thought that's because the term American Anime just feels wrong to me on all levels.
AidanAK47
@Anon, they do not. They are cartoons.
Anonymous852775
DO people call D.C. Comics animated movies American anime?
AidanAK47
@Anon, I am certainly interested in seeing the next episode. Those minisodes were pretty good too. One thing I thought the writting faltered on though was the comedy. It really was a little too slapstick considering how serious the drama was.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: ah remind me the time I went to Texas (Corpus Christy) before X-mas time and I was wearing short pants and thongs (nice!!!), then went all the way up to Niagara Falls and I was almost freezing there.
Lenlo
See, I love winter, but its almost non-existent in Texas
Anonymous852268
@Aidan: I agree. I loved To the Moon. It's so good seeing emotional drama that isn't centered around high-school kids. Seeing the ups and downs of a whole long life of a person gives everything that happens way more impact.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: An Australian friend put it as "A sunbaked rock in summer, a giant zoo, that actively tries to kill its population"
SuperMario
Not that I'm enjoying the winter either. Why autumn always go so fast?
SuperMario
Believe me but summer here is way too much. When it's too hot and dry it starts bushfiring really badly. And it's too hot that even a big fan straight in front of you don't do you any good
Kaiser Eoghan
What is this mysterious creature known as summer you refer to? =P My country is grey as a black and white film =P
SuperMario
I'm wondering how freezing you guys have to endure right now, but the place I came today in Aussie just reached 50 degree celsius this noon. So hot I felt myself burning
Lenlo
I think the part I liked the most, was just how satisfying those mud splatter sounds were. I dont know why, but its in my head
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki 6 subs came out at 11pm PST.
Lenlo
Atleast Rakugo didnt get held up. Still amazing as ever
AidanAK47
Well I spent my time waiting for it to come out by playing and finishing To the Moon. Got to say, it takes some real skill to make a game in RPGmaker that can make you really feel something. But maybe I am just a sucker for this kind of story.
SuperMario
Hey, I would be very frustrating if Hand shakers got delayed. But I agree this delay is caused by Being X. And Scum's Wish, haizzz, this is the show we love to get pissed at. Haha
Anonymous850298
I blame Being X.
AidanAK47
Sigh, Youjo Senki 6 is delayed. Why is it always the best shows that get delayed? If an episode of hand Shakers was delayed no one would give a crap but nope. Gotta be the show you want to watch right away.
AidanAK47
@Anon, in both anime and manga I never liked that character much.
Anonymous849783
Meh, dropped Masamune-kun. Seriously why do they always have to shove in these one dimensional characters with a crush out of f* nowhere. It never made any of these shows more interesting, it's always the opposite.
Vonter
@Kaiser Eoghan - I find it weird having the teacher being so unashamedly evil. In a way I like that, but at the same time I can't relate to the notion of people like that existing IRL.
Kaiser Eoghan
As I continue to watch scums wish, it becomes an anger inducing as much as it is engrossing experience.
AidanAK47
Or the UBW movie over the TV series. You just don't do that.
AidanAK47
That's like recommending someone to watch NGE death and rebirth instead of the TV series.
Kaiser Eoghan
Meh, I just got fed up with the padding in the tv version.
AidanAK47
Jojo has the kind of entertainment that clicks with you or doesn't so I understand if you didn't get into it. Though to give it a fair chance I would recommend trying the first episodes of Battle Tendency. It starts at episode 10 of the first season, you can jump to it. If that doesn't catch you then Jojos really isn't for you.
AidanAK47
Don't listen to Kaiser. The OVA is bad.
Kaiser Eoghan
....found out where a friend had been off to lately, making a movie and he ended up actually making and finishing and I got first dibs. Had a hard time commenting on it as I know the guy personally.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Totally with you on the academy thing.
@Lenlo: If you ever try jojo again and get onto part three go for the ova instead as it trims down an overly bloated arc.
Lenlo
For JoJos, I couldnt get through the first season. It just didnt hook me
Lenlo
What I dont understand is how anything other than Mob Psycho won best animation, cause my god.
Lenlo
I think Erased lost not because of the libido, but because Yuri was "gay" and "progressive" and most important of all, recent. Yuri had just finished airing so it was stuck in everyones heads. Of course it was going to win everything
AidanAK47
Erased truly deserved to win that category and it only lost because people voted with their libido instead of their head.
AidanAK47
If there's one thing that really makes me angry about these awards it's Yuri on Ice winning most heartwarming moment for "The Kiss". Because A) It wasn't a fucking kiss and B) Even if it was that isn't heartwarming. Oh I am sure something is getting warm but it sure as hell isn't your heart.
AidanAK47
Likely the main reason Kira didn't win main villain because Jojo has grown to a episode count which makes people hesitant to pick it up. Not to mention many would lose interest by Stardust crusaders midpoint.
AidanAK47
When it comes to judging quality you have to leave it to the people who have experienced enough of the medium to truly be able to critical judge it. Pretty darn sure most who voted didn't even bother watching everything worthwhile each season and just gravitated towards whatever they were exposed to.
AidanAK47
Lets not forget someone voting multiple times and bot voting. Because yes, people really do that. As you two pointed out, a public vote was never truly going to be a accurate gauge of quality. For you are not only opening the vote to anime lovers but also newbies and those who simply haven't refined their tastes yet.
SuperMario
so they either abstained their votes (which actually was reasonable); voted for something popular or even voted based on what their kids liked the most (which was flat out unforgivable).
SuperMario
This from my own frustration mostly when it comes to awards like this. But I've been following the Academy Awards for way too long now and every now and then you heard something that really disheartened about their voting process. Like for example many of the Academy members admitted that they don't care to watch anything animated because... it's kiddy stuff
SuperMario
TL;DR: my point is I have mixed feeling about the whole Crunchyroll awards. One more thing that I noticed about the nomination is that the pool was dominated by shows from the first half of last year.
Lenlo
I dont think public voting is the way to go is the thing. Popularity contests are horrible. With popularity contests moe is going to be near the top every time, while shows like Rakugo never really have a chance. And I think there is little doubt that Rakugo was one of the best shows last season
SuperMario
@Lenlo: there is an issue with the first thou, because reviewers like us don't actually represent the whole public opinions. So it's all come down to the very reason they create an award in a 1st place (your second point). But with voting we can't really reason why the winners win the trophy, right?
Lenlo
The problem with awards like that is for them to mean anything they need 2 things. 1) A board of voters who are actual reviewers who have watched a large portion of what was on shelf that season. 2) Reasons for why each thing won its award. An award without reasons means nothing
SuperMario
Other issue about voting for these awards is that the nominating body and the voting body aren't always the same. Usually the voting body is broader and more generic in taste, so I'm not at all surprised when shows like Rakugo couldn't win. Too art-house for their liking. Well, at least it got nominated which for me is good enough.
SuperMario
That's the thing. When it comes to awards, they are more 'popularity' contest than actual quality, since people tend to vote for the safer choice (the one that are both popular and mildly critical success), YOI fits the bill here.
Lenlo
Those awards were not the best and little more then a popularity contest imo.
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