Posted by psgels on 31 March 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews, Kimi ni Todoke



Romances often are annoying, which can often be attributed to characters acting completely irrational, illogical and against their own feelings. I’ve watched quite a few series that created a well developed cast this way, like with Bokura ga Ita and White Album. Kimi ni Todoke however… just… didn’t work for me.

The first half of this series really was a pain for me to try and sit through. The premise is simple: a very shy and socially inept girl (Sawako) and a popular, good-looking guy (Kazehaya) fall in love with each other. Fair enough, but the execution left a lot to be desired, especially when the creators started focusing on the love triangles. Hordes of girls turn out to be in love with Kazehaya as well, and the drama that results out of it is horribly dragged out for way longer than it should have, and the creators treat it like some kind of blasphemy if any of the two lead characters even dares to talk to someone of the other gender.

For a series that’s about the high school years of a bunch of people, Sawako and Kazehaya don’t really feel like interesting characters at all. Sawako is way too pure: whenever someone tries to take advantage of her feelings (by making her jealous for example), her incredible naivety just feels incredibly unnatural and it quickly turns into a bit of a lame gimmick. Kazehaya on the other hand is just so bland as a male romantic interest. He’s just… there, with hardly any personality about him other than some guy who just keeps smiling.

What also did not help was this series’ facial expressions, especially the chibi-distortions that you see in most of those other shoujo series as well. Usually they’re used with stylistic purposes; you know, colour each character with these seemingly over the top reactions. Here however, they felt more like “Okay, you can laugh now”-signs. They’re often badly animated in contrast to the rest of this series’ beautiful looks, are forced and hardly ever are actually used in funny situations. This show just continuously tried to be subtle, while it ultimately just wasn’t.

The only subtle part that I actually found about this series was its character-development. THANKFULLY, this show gets better in its second half as soon as the main love rival is put on a bus away from the main plot. From there on the characters change ever so slightly: Sawako learns how to appreciate life more and Kazehaya becomes less bland, but it’s not that the creators try to shove this development down your throat like they did with the love triangles. it really helps for a series if its final arc is the best one, and that pretty much was the case here.

Still, I don’t think that this show is the same as White Album, in which an excellent second half made up for an incredibly annoying first half. In the end I still see Kimi ni Todoke as a bit of a half-baked series with characters that never really stand out at anything. It’s overall something that will keep you busy on a rainy day with not much else to do, but there are a lot of better series out there.

Storytelling: 7/10 – Lacks subtlety, drags on for way too long.
Characters: 8/10 – Decent enough in its focus at being in love, with slight development that at least makes the final parts of the series interesting enough.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Great visuals, as expected from Production IG, but the chibi-drawings annoy.
Setting: 7/10 – Pretty much your standard high school setting Nothing that really stands out.

Suggestions:
Bokura ga Ita
True Tears
Kimikiss – Pure Rouge

22 Responses

  1. AznCoffee says:

    Kimi ni Todoke was good imo. :U

    I thought it was better than Bokura ga Ita at least.

  2. Chris says:

    Oh no you didn’t AznCoffe XD

    I love Bokura Ga Ita for it’s honest look into high school romance. It’s abusive, stupid, hurtful, emotional, and at its heart beautiful. Bokura Ga Ita captured it perfectly. Kimi No Todoke was much more shoujo fantasy but I only saw some of it.

  3. tk007 says:

    For me, the highlight of kimi ni kodoke is the developing friendship between Sawako and Chizu/Ayane. The romance with kazahaya was too drawn out for my liking.

  4. thomas says:

    I really liked the style but hated the characters (apart from the friends) so I gave up after half a dozen shows.

    A 75 on PSgels scale is like a 5/10 anywhere else… =)

  5. Frost says:

    Curious about this turned out, as I stopped watching around episode 10 or so lol just couldnt stand the forced love drama anymore

    They need to learn how to do romances without stupid love triangles, then Ill watch

  6. temperus says:

    I also stuck this one through to the end, and I was just as unimpressed. Fantasy/wish-fulfillment shows like this are just tedious to watch, no matter the gender they’re designed for. The show goes nowhere fast, and everyone feels like a cheap plastic doll. I know it’s tough to make a romance anime that isn’t cheesy and anticlimactic, but I’m not going to give KnT any props for sleepwalking.

  7. Kim says:

    I just wanted to say I really like the suggestion feature added to these posts at the end.

  8. Joshua says:

    I liked it, but I agree that the pacing between Sawako and Kazeh was back breakingly slow!

    SPOILER!!!
    By ep 25, I was screaming at my computer, “KISS HER!!! GROW A DICK AND KISS HER!!!”

  9. Jeff says:

    This is an example of a romance anime that solid cast of side characters couldn’t make up for its stupidly painfully slow pacing.

    The show also failed by making the characters too perfect at the beginning. This prevented real character development because how can perfect characters really advance?

  10. Z.N. Singer says:

    Interesting…I had no idea so many people shared my opinion about love triangles as defeating the purpose of good romance. It would be more encouraging if all signs were not that that is exactly what we are going to continue to get. Shouldn’t romance be about developing a meaningful relationship rather than about competing for the hottest guy?

  11. Tiniak says:

    I disagree with most of you. I found this anime pretty interesting and engaging! I liked the characters very much and their relationships. I also liked in the begining of the series when the rumors about Sawako and all. However I would’ve prefered if Sawako and Kazeh got somewhere by the end also the love tringle didnt work for me besides that it was a solid anime and I couldn’t wait for next week to watch the following episode when I was watchin it.

  12. Bear says:

    I agree with this review for the most part. The romance was actually pretty cute to me, although Kazehaya was a little too perfect (as is the norm for shoujo romance, I guess).

    The main characters for the most part were decently fleshed out and unoffensive. The exception being Kurumi; her arc and the separation between Sawako & friends were dragged out for way too long and really took away from the fuzzy slice-of-life feeling this series was able to put out here and there.

    I’m not sure if it was the seiyuu for Sawako or the scripting, but I can’t recall ever hearing so much repetitive internal dialogue. It got to the point of ridiculousness for me.

  13. domo-kun says:

    After watching the first episodes I thought the main characters were going to start dating really soon, considering how fast their relationship was evolving. 25 five episodes seemed too much.

    And unfortunately, it was. The love triangle crap hijacked the plot, the relationship evolved at a glacial pace, the Chizuru side plot was utterly boring… And in the end, Sawako and Shota didn’t even kiss. Speaking of Shota, he’s an extremely generic, cardboard character.

    Surprisingly, I loved the chibi animations and did not find them distracting.

    Second season begins in January. I’m not gonna watch. They should have wrapped all this in 13 episodes and be done with it.

  14. Immir says:

    I like this series but am disappointed also with the lack of movement in the romance. Then in season two she could not even give him her damn chocolates, and then he was too much of a wimp to actually tell her how he feels.

  15. Miwako says:

    I disagree in some of your review but to be fair, I know you have a point. In my own opinion, I like this series cause I can’t believe that there is still such an anime that could emphasize some naivety or innocence in ‘feelings or secret feelings whatever’ like Sawako. She is innocent that she’s also having trouble to her own self if her feelings is just plainly admiration and later on just realizing it’s different. Though this kind of situation is pretty rare nowadays and a person who will watch it would find it boring at first, but if you will look at it in different angle, you will understand what it really says. It is simply adorable to watch. Although at some point, I’m pretty pissed off to Sawako ’cause there are times that the situation is pretty understandable but instead, she think it in a wrong way.

    Although Bokura Ga ita is also a romance series/manga, it depicts it true and realistic situation of schools nowadays unlike Kimi Ni Todoke that is just simply, light-hearted and adorable series.

  16. Lily says:

    I disagree with your review. First of all, have you ever fallen in love with somebody? Did you remember the first true friend you made? If you say no to all, then experience it first before you watch this show.

    This series tells us about a girl’s first crush, her first friends, how her life changed when one person stepped in.

    The pace of this story is incredibly slow and I’m surprised I’m still watching it and loving it. Normally, I get annoyed of shows with lots of filler episodes but Kimi Ni Todoke has very little fillers, in my opinion. Each episode leads us to a new and different feeling in Sawako’s life which is really amazing.

    The naive and pureness of Sawako really captures my attention and reminds me of me back then – when I made my first true friend and fell in love.

    I will admit, the drawings didn’t capture my attention much and I don’t really like how “un-anime-ish” it was but slowly, as I watched, I start to like the drawings and realize that “hey, they’re different compared to anime drawings that never looks real”

    I don’t understand how you can say “The first half of this series was really a pain for me sit through”

    Did you or did you not read the plot? The story is about how a girl discovers many new feelings after she met a guy” NOT a bloody triangle love. Why on earth does a triangle love makes things interesting? It’s just a connection that leads to all the happenings that happen during the first half of the series.

    I personally rate Kimi Ni Todoke 9 out of 10 and would even rate it 10 out of 10 if I could. It’s one of those anime that leaves me feeling happy and warm all inside.

  17. acejem says:

    It’s funny because once upon a time Bokura ga Ita was one of the few shojo animes I’ve watched in full, and I found it annoying to watch because of the two lead characters Yano and Nana. Then I watched arguably more popular shojo animes such as Lovely Complex and Kimi ni Todoke and realised how painstakingly slow both series were. I think it took LoveCom 18 or so episodes for the main couple to date, whilst in Kimi ni Todoke’s case they didn’t at all (in a 25 episode anime). In contrast, it took Bokura ga Ita 4 episodes, and we even get a kiss scene at the end of this episode. That’s right, it took 4 episodes for the anime to take off in a 26 episode series!

    I do understand however, that LoveCom, Kimi ni Todoke and Bokura ga Ita cannot be compared completely. Afterall, LoveCom was more of a romantic comedy, Kimi ni Todoke being an idealistic shojo fantasy and with Bokura ga Ita being a realistic shojo drama that you can somewhat expect to play out in real life. So in the end, I guess it depends on personal taste on what type of romance/drama you prefer. Happens that I prefer option 3, hence the Bokura ga Ita style is the one I prefer.

  18. Sankoi says:

    Uhmmm… I agree about the character problems. Why make them perfect on the first part? haha

    I dunno with people who think that people should date and all ASAP but for me, love isn’t something that appears at first sight. Love isn’t romance. Love isn’t only about the heartbeat rushes and blushing. Love isn’t something people can just reduce to something uneternal. Well, you get the point. I don’t even think people “fall” in love. They learn to love as love ain’t an accidental thing.

  19. Martin says:

    This anime just really pissed me off. It was just so long and Sawako’s tendency to analyse every little thing just annoyed the hell out of me. The way it all resolved, for me, was also so predictable (obviously i know that they would end up together, but it was the way in which they did. I dont want to spoil anything so i wont go into detail). Kurumi was also a complete and utter b***h, she really got on my nerves…

    Im not normally one to dislike anime, but this was an exception because it just continually got more and more on my nerves. I think they could have done the whole series in about 15 episodes, so to drag it all out for 37 was just o____O for me.

    I didnt particularly like the drawing style either, Infinite Stratos is more of the art that i like. There was also just too… much… blushing…

    I’m really sorry this is so negative, but my main point is a positive one. It was that I just couldnt stop watching it… despite the bad characters, my opinion of the animation, the cringe blushing and the annoying Kurumi, the story itself was told in such a way that i always wanted to know what happened next, even i was just to be annoyed at what happens. So i guess thats a good thing about the series.

    Also i want to add, for all those asking “why did you watch it then?”, when i start an anime, i ALWAYS finish it. no matter what it is or how bad it is (with the exception of naruto… that shit was just too much for me)

  20. Charlie says:

    Alot of negative comments :/…IMO, i thought this anime was pretty good. I love the deformity and artwork and the characters were interesting to me. Idk why you people are getting so pissed over sawako and shota’s love relationship. Sure it took long as hell, but you gotta realize relationships dont happen in a few days. Plus, you have to girl who is shy and almost unsociable as hell. Of course,shes gonna blush! She practically just started making friends and learning these new experiences!

    Alot of you are comparing this to Bokura. i wish i could compare them both, but i dropped the anime afer 2 episodes due to it being boring IMO and the artwork was annoying.

  21. kakadoodledoo says:

    I’m quite surprised to be honest, that I actually like this series (My first time to watch a shoujo anime). I don’t find its incredibly slow plot irritating because I look at it in a different angle and I always consider Sawako’s POV. Sawako’s socially awkward, so what do you expect? After 4 episodes or so you want her and Kazehaya to start dating?
    Still though, this left so much to be desired. What I don’t like about it is the romance development between Sawako and Kazehaya. I don’t mind it being slow, heck, I think it developed way too fast. Kazehaya’s feelings, what made him fall for Sawako… I don’t understand it… sure it’s nice that she doesn’t give up and all but I don’t think that that’s enough to make you fall for someone. It would be nice if they at least had Kazehaya spill his actual thoughts so the viewers could understand him. I don’t even like his character much to be honest. He just stands and smiles, just like what the review said. A little character development from him would be nice. And the second season… the final episodes were good but that stupid misunderstanding made me want to pull out my hair. I can understand Sawako’s part since she’s still pretty naive but Kazehaya was just too unreasonable that he made me want to choke him. To think that he’s supposed to be the guy who’s good with speaking out to others. Unfortunately, that meaningless matter dragged on for so many eps.

    I’m not surprised that so many people didn’t like this series. This isn’t for impatient people who had never experienced having trouble getting along with others cause they wouldn’t understand the heroine very well and would probably just get annoyed with her.

    As for me, despite all the flaws I found in the series, I still like it a lot.

  22. Ash says:

    I’m shocked this got a higher rating than Paprika.
    Honestly.
    This is beyond predictable, not refreshing in the least.
    I was ..
    *BIG SURPRISE* not impressed.
    The characters were all stereotypical ideas of what high school students are supposed to be like which i have myself never come across EVER.
    Sawako (IMO), was not likable, her inability to comprehend the simplest of emotions is beyond me. The image of stoicity that was being shown was forced and just made it even more unbelievable.
    Anime like this is what makes me lose hope in life.

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Sometimes there are re-showings, some cinemas will play Akira for the billionth time for example.
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Apparently, he even apologized to the voice actress for being subjected to voice a rape scene, so I guess even he has deep regrets about it. The LN doesn't have any more moments like this so I guess he matured a lot.
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Pancreas has no subs yet AFAIK
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But I'm genuinely surprised that my country would actually even go that far to even show them.
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I think ultimately its the patience some of these sad films are made with that allows then to eventually land their effect.
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"The Wind Rises" is pretty damn sad.
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Well, Grave of Fireflies hands down. or Your Lie in April if you don't mind TV show
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Then basically everything from Shinkai for example.
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@Anon: You may need to let us now what type of drama you're into, are you okay with highly melodramatic stories?
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if so anybody have any good sad anime movies?
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Didn't know that guess I try this someday I love this setting.
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I decided to watch season 2 of sound euphonium before getting to liz and the bluebird. I would like to see more of this. I guess I liked Asuka's arc.
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But yeah, I agree the series has great character writing. In hindsight, it's kind of a shame you picked Irozuku over Bloom into You. It had a great premiere and some stunning scenes, but the characters are so incredibly droll that there's just not much to write about. They're both slow burns, but Bloom into You gives you much more to think about.
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So I think the crossing the line thing is ambiguous between your interpretation and Yuu's subconscious fear that if she initiates things, displays her affection towards Nanami (and a passionate kiss that Yuu initiates certainly seems to qualify), then that will be the end of things. Actually, it's probably a bit of both.
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@SuperMario: I think Yuu is also aware that Nanami does not want Yuu to fall in love with her (I mean, it's hard not to after that death stare). And as a result she can never initiate things, because showing affection would undermine the whole reason Nanami fell in love with her. And Yuu obviously does not want this relationship to end.
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@Animosh: the thing is Yuu takes the special attraction from Nanami for granted, and her mode is that she “doesn’t hate” it. She doesn’t hate it when she spends time alone with Nanami, she doesn’t hate it when they kiss. So for Yuu, when Nanami askes her to actively do it, it’a the first time Yuu feels like she’s crossing the line. Some really great character writing there
Anonymous3175137
It boils down to a female-targeted version of those moe shows that I don't care about all that much. Just replace the cute girls with hot boys.
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Compared to Katsugeki, where it tried to sell the series as something more than just a mobile adaptation and tried to court non-fans, here I got exactly what I expected; something safe and predictable, and catering exclusively to fans. So I got nothing out of it.
Anonymous3175137
Is there some sort of moe equivalent for male characters? Because this show probably counts as one. otoh, my feelings towards it are like most CGDCT anime: indifference.
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I think the oddest thing I did regarding anime this year was how I sat through both season of Touken Ranbu Hanamaru (including the one that aired earlier this winter), and didn't claw my eyes out when it's basically an unfortunate mix of a mobile game adaptation and a CBDCT show mixed in with some action segments to show that it's not just a pure estrogen-fest.
Animosh
I should also note that I don't relate to her in every way. I understand her difficulties with falling in love, but for me the problem is more that my view on love is too negative, and as a result I'm hesitant about taking the "leap of faith" that any relationship requires. Love is messy, and may well get you hurt, so it's easier to observe things from a distance, like Maki for example.
Animosh
Oh Yuu is definitely frustrating to watch. Her idealized conception of love prevents her from seeing what is obvious to everyone watching: that she's slowly developing feelings for Touko. And when those feelings evidently turn into love, instead of seeing them for what they are, she's in denial and insists that her feelings aren't special enough to be called "love". It's frustrating.
SuperMario
Then again, I can't really say why Bloom into You works for me now, but kept me in a distance in their first few episodes. It's slow-burn, and when you think back to it, not a lot has been happening. But I feel they haven't made any wrong step yet
SuperMario
Can't say I relate to Yuu thou. She's the kind of character that in real life I would find really frustrated, and I know many of my friends behave that way. That just to further demonstrates how real these characters can be. Even the side characters, Sayaka and the lesbian adult couple work well for me.
SuperMario
@Aminosh: it took awhile for me to fully embrace Bloom into You (I say about episode 5,6) but I agree it's getting very solid now. it reminds me of Scums Wish as well, mainly because how twisted romance can be
Animosh
I'm also worried it won't end in a satisfying way, since the manga is still ongoing. But otherwise I quite like it. It has its problems, but if you go into it with the right expectations (slow pacing, complex and flawed characters that make for an unusual love story, with more focus on the characters' psychological issues than their sexuality) there's a lot to enjoy.
Animosh
My only major complaint is that its characters can feel rather artificial sometimes. Touko in particular is a victim of this. She's such a weird bundle of complexes that she can be hard to relate to. Maybe it'll be better explained later on, but the whole idea of falling in love with another person because you think she'll be incapable of reciprocating it ... it's weird.
Animosh
I particularly like Yuu. I can empathize with her difficulties with falling in love, and I like her arc of slowly "blooming into" liking another person. It feels natural and earned. And like in SSSS.Gridman, the direction is surprisingly strong, and as a result it mostly nails its key moments (the river confrontation, the shed starting shot, etc).
Animosh
I finally caught up with Bloom into You, and it really surpassed my expectations. It kind of reminds me of Scum's Wish, with how flawed its characters are, and how selfish and unreasonable they can be. But like in Scum's Wish, instead of condemning the characters for their flaws, we're given the background to understand them, and they're not used for forced melodrama but sympathetically explored.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Are the Tezuka Buddha movies really that bad? I'll probably try the manga soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also, it'd be cool if we could get long ova adaptations again.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd be happy to get more anime set outside of Japan. I also wouldn't mind seeing some anime based off western material.
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Gotta say, I wasnt expecting that from Banana Fish this week. I hope its not a fake out, because if it isnt this ending could be great. I love sad endings
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Bunny-girl made me watch a horrible idol segment. Then I forgave it because the end of the episode was well executed melodrama.
Sash
I just recently watched Made in Abyss.... and i cried real hard. I was worried that this story was going down the loli route at first... but how this show frightened me... and how it pulled at my heartstrings at the end.
Sash
I just recently watched Made in Abyss.... and i cried real hard. I was worried that this story was going down the loli route at first... but how this show frightened me... and how it pulled at my heartstrings at the end.
Animosh
But regardless of how things turn out, it was definitely a powerful moment, and I'm really happy things are finally heating up again. Looks like the demon/leopard/whatever will be unleashed next episode.
Animosh
Welp, I guess something really did happen this week in Banana Fish. I kind of expect it to be a fake-out though. Chii mentioned there will be an epilogue, and it'd be strange to do so without our main couple intact. We haven't really gotten a confirmation of how Ash and Eiji see their relationship either. So I don't think the ship (or rather, one of its passengers) has sunk just yet.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well, one of them is essentially the first two episodes of the show as one long episode. So i would say that makes sense.
Anonymous3169068
After all, I don't think they know anything about the series until I show them these. They already know that I bought the novels though.
Anonymous3169068
Meanwhile, I'm planning on showing my family, the two LoGH films, My Conquest is a Sea of Stars and Overture to a New War during our Christmas vacation. Is this a good jumping on point?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Come on torrent, 90% done, then you decide to slow down. This is conspiracy I say.
Amagi
Same here
SuperMario
Thanks, will download it when I get home.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Early sub for 720p version of liz and bluebird is on nyaatorrents, they say they are doing a 1080p version tomorrow.
SuperMario
It’s Christmas season soon so I hope I can watch some older gems during that period
SuperMario
I, on the other hand, decide to get off my movie marathon for now to spend time WATCHING MORE ANIME.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've had that issue on other blogs, getting the moderation awaiting message, I got it here in the past too.
SuperMario
Woah, I will read that story soon when I have free time. Thanks
SuperMario
Lemme fix this, Amagi
Amagi
I have given up on a bunch of anime now I rather enjoy the few I really like to the fullest and use the rest of my free time to play games and read VNs.
Amagi
"Your comment is awaiting moderation" guess I posted too many links, he. Well thinking about it I could have just posted this in the shoutbox, it's no spoiler or anything.
Lenlo
I quite liked it. I like that it wasnt a one off thing either, but it showed them working at it. I enjoy how when Kurahara chooses to do something, he commits 100% to it. Its fitting for his character
Kaiser-Eoghan
A lesser series would have drawn out the drama with Haiji. The scenes with kakeru reading manga with Prince also further support what the anon was saying about him warming up to Prince.
Lenlo
I cant wait to watch it.
Anonymous3164706
And yeah, the cliffhanger from last wasn't a big deal since Haiji fainted from overworking himself and needs to rest.
Anonymous3164706
That part where he chose to slow down in order to cheer on Prince and Ouji was a great scene in particular. He's starting to care about others now.
Anonymous3164706
Man, Prince has come a long way from his slow, awkward running at the start. And it looks like Kakeru is improving in terms of building his relationships with his teammates.
SuperMario
awesome! Under the Silver Lake is out as well in case you want to watch it, Kaiser
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yo AwesomeMario , the bluray for Liz and the bluebird (the sound euphonium spinoff thing) is out, will probably be subtitled someday soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Compartively dogs DESPISE me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know...yeah, old kids stuff was kinda messed up and animal deaths were a big thing, Mufasa, bambi's mother aswell.
Amagi
Cats are weird
Amagi
We have two cats for two certain metro stations in my city. They belong to people living nearby but love the station so damn much you almost always see them sitting on the benches made for humans waiting for the subway/train. Two days ago I returned in the middle of the night and that one cat was still sitting there enjoying life. The other cat belongs to the station in front of my house.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Depressingly we also have that Lion king remake too.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though I think plague dogs film adaptation stopped just before the full ending of the book?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Lol there are actually people out there who believe that only straight men have aspergers syndrome.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can't actually leave a cat alone when I see it, actually snuck up on one to pick it up. Couldn't help myself.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh, heh, hey didn't know it shared the same author, makes alot of sense though.
Amagi
Yeah Plague Dogs is by the same author that did Watership. It was great. It's interesting to see how quickly series can become edgy and therefore bad on the one hand and how many grim dark movies or series exist that are damn good on the other hand. A wrong turn and your serious drama or thriller can turn into trash.
Amagi
Funny because I was also always a rabbit owner and now have a shitty cat (and yes I am actually autistic though although I guess I write pretty normal nowadays)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh Jesus...there was another old one wasn't there, the one about the dogs? Plague dogs, another example of a famliy/kids animation that pulled no punches.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoy alternate history/dystopia stuff, There was It happened here, a British film about a what if situation where Hitler won.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't think I was able to get away with missing the subtext of watership down though when I was younger, my parents made sure I understood it at that young age.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also liked how watership never really came off as being edgy in an detrimental way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm convinced there is some connection between cats and rabbits in relation to autistic people, both creatures appear to love me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: And thats something I'm extremely picky on, mixing cuteness and darkness together but Waterships art got that right.
Anonymous3163410
Although it does try to go into darker material later on. It just tries to do what it can with a TV-Y7 rating and manages to succeed despite not being as violent or scary as the film.
Amagi
I like how Watership Down was basically the first popular cartoon with that dark moe trope if you count the rabbits as cute for being actual fluffy rabbits
Amagi
da,,it the cat won't leave the keyboard
Amagi
love 1984 too. genrally all of these political dystopias or however youcalltheseä#+
Anonymous3163410
It could be worse. It could be the sanitized kids version that aired in the late 90s.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And because the rabbits look organic in the 70s one, its more scary.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Watership was particularly harrowing though because it was rabbits and I was young and I was predisposed to rabbits=fluffy cute things.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*Ahem* kind of commied out there for a second. I'm actually more of an Allende-ist.
Kaiser-Eoghan
1984is still a good story too.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But he agreed that animal farm was good, despite being written by a trotsykite.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My father hated him despite my dad being a Marxist.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually that was more of a stab toward Orwell I was making.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As it stands, I don't dislike animal farm despite being a Marxist .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also remember a cartoon called animals of farthing wood also being very bleak for a kids show.
Amagi
I mean there are positive aspects of remakes and 2h movies. They could add more stuff from the book for once. But on the other hand there are these fears and I must say that I am not fond of this CG. The drawn rabbits were just way more expressive than those of the new trailer.
Amagi
Taking away these aspects will turn such movies to useless teen entertainment.
Amagi
I hope they won't water down the political part of Watership too. All these allusions to Hitler and the NS regime were things I could only appreciate years later when I actually had some lowkey knowledge of history. Same thing with Stalinism and Animal Farm.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It was always the Bright eyes song bit that sticks out in my head. I also remember secret of the nymph.
Amagi
Same here. Children aren't as stupid as adults believe them to be. Most of the series aimed at children I saw as a kid were downright insulting.
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