Posted by psgels on 25 April 2010 with categories: xxxHolic, xxxHolic Rou



Before watching this OVA, I had heard from people that xxxHolic Rou would be very confusing. But Bloody Nora, I never thought that it’d be this extreme! The non-manga readers who have yet to see this episode: STAY AWAY FROM THIS POST! MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

Because of xxxHolic Shunmuki, I was expecting something Tsubasa-related as well. Instead, the Tsubasa-cast doesn’t make an appearance at all. Instead, we get a time-skip of who knows how many years, in which A TON has happened: Yuko is dead, and Watanuki has now taken her place. This episode asked a whole tidal wave of new questions: what the heck happened to Yuuko? What caused her to come back? Why did Doumeki’s name change? Why does it seem that Watanuki can’t leave the shop? And taht’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Even for xxxHolic’s standards, this episode was dark. Watanuki has changed a lot. The visual comedy around him and Doumeki is completely gone now. Instead, the jabs he takes to Watanuki are short and subtle. Also, this episode never left the shop: everything we see is from Watanuki’s perspective, who somehow doesn’t leave the shop. Doumeki also lost the wise-cracking part of him: he now really doesn’t fool with Watanuki anymore. He’s actually graduated university at this point.

I guess this episode was all about Yuuko’s… rebirth or something, but what got to me the most was that phone-call at the end of this episode. After all that build-up! After all that time that was spent on the relationship between Watanuki and Himawari to make them like the perfect couple… she actually ended up marrying someone different and the two have grown apart!

I must say, Clamp: you did it again. This episode really was amazing in its character-development. It’s such a stark contrast from what xxxHolic used to be. Including the time-skip was a brilliant idea.
Rating: *** (Awesome)

33 Responses

  1. pgal says:

    Why did they skip a *large* part of the manga?!!!!

  2. c160 says:

    @pgal maybe they’ll take the nonlinear path and animate the skipped parts in later episodes?

    I haven’t actually reached this part of the manga,but I have reached the point where Yuko died(and a bit more) and boy,Tatami Galaxy’s dialog is easier to grasp than xxxHolic’s(and to a degree,Tsubasa chronicles’) logic ^^;

  3. kono machi no mirai o says:

    Um, unless Doumeki’s name changed to Watanuki, you might want to fix this:

    “Watanuki has changed a lot. The visual comedy around him and Watanuki is completely gone now.”

  4. raven says:

    well, i don’t know how far the manga raws have been on about, or the release frequency, but

    Spoilers

    Himawari isn’t married so far as i know in the current chapters in the manga, and she and watanuki see each other every year during his birthday i think [or is it hers?]. In the manga so far, she and doumeki are university students. and yuuko is still gone.

    End Spoilers

    I’m not too sure how much of this episode is canon, but yuuko being dead is on spot…

  5. kiryuu says:

    The bits about Yuuko are the only bits “canon”.. the multiple foxes and TV business is something original to the OVA.

  6. Chan says:

    Doumeki’s name didn’t change she just called him by his first name.

  7. PL says:

    I really really liked the way Watanuki and Doumeki have matured, but it actually really sucks in my opinion that Himawari didn’t end up with him… They spent too much time building up their relationship. I wouldn’t call them the perfect couple at all, but rather a couple that overcame some huge obstacles that were in the way to them ever getting together. I wouldn’t mind leaving it open-ended, so we never know whether they do or not, but just precluding the possibility sucks in my opinion. Perhaps that’s because I’m a sap at heart, and a hopeless romantic.

  8. Ebod says:

    I’ve always seen Watanuki and Himawari more as friends than anything else, and I guess I must be the only one, but I like it that Himawari’s getting married. Helps with the whole Watanuki’s frozen in time while those he loves around him are moving on kind of deal.

    Besides, the whole Watanuki and Doumeki relationship in the manga’s getting gayer and gayer by the chapter. I mean, Himawari has a life outside of Watanuki, and yet it’s heavily implied that Doumeki spends more time at the shop with Watanuki than he does at his own house, sleeps over enough that he has a room in the shop for him, and visits enough that Watanuki doesn’t even have to go somewhere to shop for groceries.

    Not to mention the most recent chapter where Watanuki gave Doumeki something that’s full of implications no matter how you look at it, especially when you see where Doumeki tries to wear it on the first try.

    Though I think their relationship was best summed up by one of the previous OADs:

    “Watanuki, you and Doumeki are such good friends!”
    “Why do the females seem to misunderstand our relationship?!”

  9. SA says:

    Seeing is CLAMP were talking about is, one has to read/see several times a chapter to understand what is happening so, for what I can remember and understood, I’ll try to answer your questions.

    SPOILER ALERT TO BOTH HOLIC & TSUBASA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Fist off, on the manga right now it has been 4 years since Yuuko died. The reason of why she died is tightly knot to the Tsubasa ending in which she was already dead but because of a powerful wish (made by the bad guy in Tsubasa), her time stop and was trap in the time before her death, making a mess of time and space. Because a choice was made within the Tsubasa universe her time began to move again. Before she dies Watanuki promise her that he’ll continue on living, wishing for them to meet again and that he’ll wait for her at long as it takes. So, by making that wish, he becomes the shop owner and stops his “time” until he and Yuuko are reunited. The price for this was that he is not physically capable to leave the shop.

    SPOILERS END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The ova is clearly several years later than the current manga time, so I have no idea of the answers to some of the other questions ^^

  10. tomtom says:

    Where can I watch this? (thanks)

  11. Pi says:

    I agree with Ebod,Watanuki and Domeki seemed more like a couple to me–despite the fact Himawari and Watanuki were together in the past (in the current manga that is). Even Yuuko, in the very begining of the manga/anime has told Watanuki that he and Himawari could never be together; Doumeki and he, however, will be a better match/inseparable (or something along those lines)

    I think it’s a shame that Himawari and Watanuki couldn’t be together. Maybe the reason why Himawari was married to someone else for everyone’s best interest–whatever reason it may be.

  12. Karasu says:

    Where can I watch this episode?

  13. xiao1 says:

    GASP! I had no idea the new OVA was out! I loveeee xxxholic. I can’t wait for this to be subbed. *waits impatiently*

  14. Snowolf says:

    I LOVE THIS SHOW SFM. i want to watch it subbed NOW.

    i’m really glad you liked it. xxxHolic is my favorite manga, and i’m glad that the animators are doing a coherent job of fulfilling the role properly and actually explaining what the heck happened between this huge gap of xxxHolic Kei and Rou.

  15. Snowolf says:

    guys, you can watch it live raw streaming here: http://www.jokeroo.com/user-content/videos/animation-film/2010/4/37884-ana-hori-rou.html but so far no subs. :(

  16. Snowolf says:

    i am confused a bit at the end though- the girl/yuuko says ‘tadaima/i’m home’ does that mean she’s coming back? or she has been laid to rest?

  17. Snowolf says:

    Psgels, I’ve figured it out: the girl is NOT a reincarnation/daughter of Yuuko. It’s said in the OAD that the price of the job would that some words would be spoken from someone out of the girl’s mouth. Those words were of Yuuko san. I don’t know why she would say “I’m home” though. Maybe she is laid to rest? IDK.

  18. betawatcher says:

    Ahhh, it looks so beautiful! But I didn’t watch the OVAs, or read any of the manga. I want to start reading the manga, but then I’d have to catch up to a lot, not to mention I might have to start reading Tsubasa again. (and the last time I read that was a loooong time ago…)

    I’ll probably be spoiled and bursting to know properly what happened (even though some people above have explained the situation ^^;) after watching the anime… I can’t wait for this to be subbed!

  19. Carrie says:

    this OAD is FOR MANGA READERS!!!!!! it came packaged WITH THE MANGA and the reason it doesnt answer the questions that you posed is because readers already know the answers. . . its unfortunate for those who just watch the anime but all these questions were answered in the xxxholic AND tsubasa reservoir mangas.

  20. Karasu says:

    Isn’t the reason Watanuki can’t leave the shop beacuase he promised Yuuko he would stay there until she returned or something like that?

  21. Jessica8 says:

    Hey everyone who’s been asking, you can watch xxxHolic over at the Animax Asia website. They have a pretty healthy selection of the latest eps.

    http://www.animax-asia.com/shows/xxxholic

    or

    Watch xxxHolic Episodes Online

    Not sure which one will link. :)

  22. Iggy says:

    Hummm,maybe i missed something in the manga,but Himawari couldn’t get “close” to people right,she brings bad luck,so how she ends up getting married? Mehhhh…

  23. Iqah-chan says:

    So far in the manga, Himawari isnt married yet. They still see each other only once a year(which is 1st April, Watanuki’s Birthday). And yeah, many stuff happened but for all i know, Himawari and Watanuki said to each other “I love you.” Though this seeing each other once a year thingy makes me realise that hey, maybe Himawari may really marry someone else…

  24. ckoi says:

    This is big dissapointment it s good that yuko is back and I am thinking that the girl is her reincarnation himawari well I don t have opinion on that it s stupid and I hope watanuki finishes with yuko because don t know why but anyhow I am thinking that they should make at least one more ova so we know what happens with watanuki because this way you can only make assumptions

  25. leumasxseraph says:

    watch the new OVA w/ subs HERE!!!!!!! 9your welcome)
    http://www.watchanimeon.com/xxxholic-rou-ova-episode-1/

  26. read.linger says:

    im done reading tsubasa, and paatiently waiting for the latest xxxholic rou and kobato chapters, it really helps a lot in understanding this OVA, it answers some of the questions that are still currently on the current chapters, im so happy to hear about yuuko, the question now is where is she? i hope there’s a second part, coz a whole load of questions are coming up. I was hoping to see the tsubasa travellers too when watanuki was thinking of a signature.

  27. Jenica says:

    I really like that Himawari is married to someone else, Watanuki’s high school crush on her was cute… but never seemed that it should end as anything more than friendship.

    And I still don’t see a Yuko/Watanuki pairing; she seems more of a mother/mentor/crazy sensei figure in his life….

    As for Doumeki/Watanuki… it’s never going to happen. The best we’ll see of these two is an implied soul-mate-bond-thing left open-ended for interpretation. *cries*
    Silly need to keep the series mainstream… having the main character paired up with a major character of the same gender is apparently still a no-no unless the series revolves around their relationship.

    The only question I have is how many more chapters of holic are we going to get before Clamp wraps it up for good?

  28. Bear says:

    Just wanted to say I disagree with the “never gonna happen” sentiment above regarding Watanuki and Doumeki. This is CLAMP we’re talking about and they are not remotely shy about shounen ai. You can see it in X and a number of their other works. Even Cardcaptor Sakura has some gay undertones throughout the series. The holic manga is truly bringing Doumeki and Watanuki closer together every week. I’m not saying it *will* happen, but I wouldn’t put it out of the question completely.

    For the record, as a straight guy I am 100% hoping for the implied relationship between Doumeki and Watanuki to carry on and develop further. I don’t need/want to see them go at each other, but their relationship is really dynamic and a joy to watch. Second for me would be Zashiki-Warashi (too bad she has disappeared from the manga/anime recently; I don’t think she ages either!). Didn’t seem to me that Himawari was ever going to happen.

  29. Medha says:

    oh my gosh, i remember this episode. i loved it, but is was so…’WAIT, WHAT? WHAT JUST HAPPENED?’kind of thing. The end killed me though. >..

  30. Medha says:

    [sorry, the earlier comment messed up. >…

  31. Medha says:

    waaah, my comments are screwing up. i fail at life. D:

    anyway, let’s hope it works this time? XD

    oh my gosh, i remember this episode. i loved it, but is was so…’WAIT, WHAT? WHAT JUST HAPPENED?’kind of thing. The end killed me though. D: it’s left on such a cliffhanger, but i guess they aren’t making another OVA? D: i really want them to continue this though. :D if the manga has gone further, maybe i should read the manga… XD

  32. Zaric says:

    Quite disappointed in Watanuki. Instead of coming into his own and actually taking over the shop, he just kinda stalled and is taking up space.

    It seems like he had the potential to actually become the next wish-master, at least while Yuuko was gone; the whole point I gathered was that his part-time at the shop was preparing him for something. It feels like that something had been abandoned.

    Her wish was for him to live on, but you can’t really call what he was doing living. Being stuck in the shop he is more or less a ghost, even if he is “preserving his time” so he can “live on”.

    So yeah. This was dark, and moving, but ultimately frustrating.

  33. Reson why watanuki doesn0t leave shop says:

    The reason he doesn0t leave the shop its his own choice, that has to do with his wish, for yuuko to return, and he said that meanwhile he would stay in the shop (waiting for her )

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@Kaiser Sure, the story doesn't do anything for me but it's not a waste of time.
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uchouten kazoku is a really good one set in kyoto!
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Congrats K-Off. Hope you enjoy the trip. I myself originally planned to go to US on this December but now the plan got wrecked. Should be fun spending Xmas in Japan especially
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Medium not meduim
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Chinese cartoons proof that two nukes weren't enough. Or were too much depending on the perspective
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my point is we tend to spend our stupid 20s phase feel like its wasted, but really it does help develop our hobby/sense/wisdom, whatever it is.
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I find myself now that I've grown up wanting to punch kid characters from horror films lol
Kaiser Eoghan
About the watching stories with younger female characters...its starting to feel like I shouldn't be or that it doesn't feel appropriate, actually sort of awkward/skeevy.
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Looking back It feels dickish that I laughed reading NHK.
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I mean look at Re-life, I mean ow, everyone went through that.
Kaiser Eoghan
I think we'll find that stage where we'll get irritated by stories reminding us of our stupid 20s phases eventually just as some teenage focused anime/manga annoyingly remind us of being teens.
Kaiser Eoghan
In terms of anime/manga, much as I'd still see myself liking NHK I could see myself getting more frustrated with the lead character now being in my early 30s.
Kaiser Eoghan
In the past year I've been looking at hentai/ecchi imageboards not as often as I used to.
Kaiser Eoghan
Judy Delphy and Juliette Binoche have aged surprisingly well...
Ah its less fancying/finding them attractive, moreso taking notice of them.
SuperMario
I can understand the others but Meryl Streep too? Man, you're aging I can tell
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Julianne Moore, Isabelle Huppert, Meryl Sreep, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: like whom if I may ask?
SuperMario
But I'm always interested in women issues myself so Mustang just hit me hard
Kaiser Eoghan
Its a sign of me aging I guess too. I'm noticing older actresses too now where I wouldn't have in the past.
SuperMario
Looking forward to Under the Shadow too, also really keen to see how The Bad Batch would turn out to be
SuperMario
Strangely I've become more engaged with teen, coming-of-age films recently (well, Aku no Hana is sort of teen drama as well),but yes, old man's psyche is my thing too
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Synecdoche, the passenger, winter light, anomalisa , wild strawberries , la notte for example.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: The day is coming where drama centred around twentyboppers won't have the same level of effect on me. Had I seen buffalo 66 5 years ago I would have been all over it. Old man/middle age angst is becoming more my thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm honestly having a harder time getting into films that focus on young girls/teenagers.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Theres only a few upcoming films left I'm looking forward to, Elle, Valley violence, whispering star and under the shadow.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I appreciate mustang for the issue it deals with and addresses but I felt it predictable and the drama didn't hit harshly enough. It feels like an academy/oscars film.
SuperMario
Kaiser: remember I mention about watching those 96 Cannes line-ups? I think I will get to watch them soon, since I downloaded all the movies already
SuperMario
@Kaiser: btw, you hated Mustang? It's also one of my favorite film so far.
SuperMario
but maybe think of it that way will make the manga more entertaining...
SuperMario
You see Aku no Hana as a dark comedy? haha I'm speechless
Kaiser Eoghan
Like you Mario I don't care for heavy infodumping and that took me out of the new world.
Kaiser Eoghan
Bebop had that problem for me in that I saw outlaw star and trigun first.
Kaiser Eoghan
I still feel aku no hana is a guilty pleasure manga, a crazy dark comedy or maybe thats just my humour.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hataraku had me laughing up to episode 7, while Amagi felt stale from the start.
Looking back on Baccano I still like Claire and Russo but the other characters not so much, the main series is enjoyable enough but the extra episodes hold back the score.
I've never watched Habane straight through although I have finished the series. Ghost vs ergo? Ergos final episode wrecked the show.
Topgavin
I thing Hataraku was a lot more consistent, but Amagi had some standout episodes. For me the OVA, the pirate ship episode and the school episode were great. "Simply put, we have to go lewder" is one of my fav quotes
K-Off
How was that by the way? I never bothered to watch Amagi Brilliant Park all the way through because I felt so cynical about it after the first two episodes. Hataraku Mao Sama on the other hand was genuinely refreshing for the first half of the season.
SuperMario
In other news, The Eccentric Family is getting 2nd season. Now I'm filled with joy
SuperMario
Still feel bad to compare an 1-cour series (Baccano) to an 4-cours one. But in this case Baccano would take my cake.
Topgavin
I reckon The Devil is a Part Timer vs Amagi Brilliant Park would be a fun one, and I wouldn't know which would win.
AidanAK47
Baccano vs Durarara might make a good matchup. Baccano is the better one but Durarara does seem to be more popular.
Syndrome
Yeah it is a bit obvious and they dont share much in common anyway. Just that they are two of the most well known anime out there. I enjoyed NGE more than Cowboy Bebop, but I agree on the later beeing overall a better anime.
AidanAK47
Oh look. Berserks Manga is on Haitus again. Muira...just..at this point I ain't even mad. Just disappointed.
SuperMario
Well, new post on Flowers of Evil is out. Come eat it up.
SuperMario
@Syndrome: was thinking about that match-up (NGE vs Cowboy Bebop) but isn't it too obvious? I always intend to pick something that caught you guys off-guard haha
AidanAK47
@Syndrome, no contest. Cowboy Bebop wins outright.
Syndrome
On a serious note, for related anime, I would be curious about something like Ergo Proxy against Ghost in the Shell
Syndrome
Go for NGE vs Cowboy Bebop and watch the world burn
SuperMario
Yeah, I agree it's one of the main factors, but even so From the New World had a higher grade too. But I wouldn't pick Haibane Renmei against From the New World if I didn't think it had a chance to win. Those who loved the former really loved it, while people more appreciate From the New World than actually love it. Well, can't beat the consensus I guess.
Topgavin
I'd say a major reason for that would be the popularity difference. On MAL, Haibane has a following of 110k people, with FTNW having 270k.
SuperMario
I'm personally quite disappointed with the results. Will try harder for a more competitive match-up next time
AidanAK47
@Mario, if you say so. I say by now the victor has been decided.
SuperMario
@Aidan: we don't need to sticky the Versus Show again, as I will put up the Aku no Hana post tomorrow anyway
AidanAK47
Yeah the brightness got a bit much in some places after episode 18.
Topgavin
I thought the brightness was done well in the episode with Rem sitting beside Subaru's bed and her smiling/crying, but yeah this was too much
SuperMario
@anon125687: my thought exactly. While I was watching it I thought to myself that it's too bright!!
Anonymous125687
Why do final episodes overdo the blur effect and fuzzy lighting its literally over dramatic cancer. Just let it end normally ffs
afgm
Well, it's hard, since it doesn't really feel finished, so even if you know it will eventually end well if given a chance, you can't really put your full confidence behind those bets
AidanAK47
Got a bit long winded in that review and yet I feel like I really didn't get across what makes the series so good.
AidanAK47
Well that's the Re:Zero review written up. I will get to work on 91 days next and maybe Prisms Illya maybe after that. Lost all entuasim after they messed up that last episode in Illya. Overall it's been pretty disappointing.
AidanAK47
As for that twist. I think they could work it easily into a first episode. The impact would still be there for people marathoning the thing in the future and it would be a good "Oh Shit!" moment to start the second season. If they jump ahead a bit to a certain moment it would actually make for a great opener.
AidanAK47
I say the only chance of season two not coming would be if White Fox doesn't like money. Considering that the pace which the light novel adaption has sped up from every few months to a release every month I guess that they want to make that second season as badly as we want it. At this pace they could start a second season in maybe a years time. Maybe every half a year depending on cour length.
Syndrome
Also, if season 2 ever come (that would be a surprise if not, and truly annoying), I dont know how they will manage with the "twist", as something this impactful would come way too fast without any kind of setup. Wait and see, I guess.
Syndrome
After seeing the last Re:Zero I couldnt help but spoil myself, and I kind of understand why WhiteFox went with that kind of ending, skipping what would be a giant shtstorm on the internet. Even though, in a sad world where there would be no season 2, Im still a bit disappointed with the ending. Its nice to wrap it up this way but its a stale regarding the plot and there is no food for thought.
SuperMario
@aidan: you sure are fast when it comes to Re:Zero haha. Alrighty, we'll go with that then
AidanAK47
@mario,I am putting up a Re:Zero post. Tommarrow. I will unsticky it for a day and then we can sticky it again.
reaLjustified
@K-Off No worries, it's so messed up. Stay safe.
SuperMario
@Aidan: if you going to post Re:Zero review soon, you can unsticky the Versus Show post, otherwise I will take it down in 2 days
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