Posted by psgels on 25 April 2010 with categories: xxxHolic, xxxHolic Rou



Before watching this OVA, I had heard from people that xxxHolic Rou would be very confusing. But Bloody Nora, I never thought that it’d be this extreme! The non-manga readers who have yet to see this episode: STAY AWAY FROM THIS POST! MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD.

Because of xxxHolic Shunmuki, I was expecting something Tsubasa-related as well. Instead, the Tsubasa-cast doesn’t make an appearance at all. Instead, we get a time-skip of who knows how many years, in which A TON has happened: Yuko is dead, and Watanuki has now taken her place. This episode asked a whole tidal wave of new questions: what the heck happened to Yuuko? What caused her to come back? Why did Doumeki’s name change? Why does it seem that Watanuki can’t leave the shop? And taht’s just the tip of the iceberg.

Even for xxxHolic’s standards, this episode was dark. Watanuki has changed a lot. The visual comedy around him and Doumeki is completely gone now. Instead, the jabs he takes to Watanuki are short and subtle. Also, this episode never left the shop: everything we see is from Watanuki’s perspective, who somehow doesn’t leave the shop. Doumeki also lost the wise-cracking part of him: he now really doesn’t fool with Watanuki anymore. He’s actually graduated university at this point.

I guess this episode was all about Yuuko’s… rebirth or something, but what got to me the most was that phone-call at the end of this episode. After all that build-up! After all that time that was spent on the relationship between Watanuki and Himawari to make them like the perfect couple… she actually ended up marrying someone different and the two have grown apart!

I must say, Clamp: you did it again. This episode really was amazing in its character-development. It’s such a stark contrast from what xxxHolic used to be. Including the time-skip was a brilliant idea.
Rating: *** (Awesome)

33 Responses

  1. pgal says:

    Why did they skip a *large* part of the manga?!!!!

  2. c160 says:

    @pgal maybe they’ll take the nonlinear path and animate the skipped parts in later episodes?

    I haven’t actually reached this part of the manga,but I have reached the point where Yuko died(and a bit more) and boy,Tatami Galaxy’s dialog is easier to grasp than xxxHolic’s(and to a degree,Tsubasa chronicles’) logic ^^;

  3. kono machi no mirai o says:

    Um, unless Doumeki’s name changed to Watanuki, you might want to fix this:

    “Watanuki has changed a lot. The visual comedy around him and Watanuki is completely gone now.”

  4. raven says:

    well, i don’t know how far the manga raws have been on about, or the release frequency, but

    Spoilers

    Himawari isn’t married so far as i know in the current chapters in the manga, and she and watanuki see each other every year during his birthday i think [or is it hers?]. In the manga so far, she and doumeki are university students. and yuuko is still gone.

    End Spoilers

    I’m not too sure how much of this episode is canon, but yuuko being dead is on spot…

  5. kiryuu says:

    The bits about Yuuko are the only bits “canon”.. the multiple foxes and TV business is something original to the OVA.

  6. Chan says:

    Doumeki’s name didn’t change she just called him by his first name.

  7. PL says:

    I really really liked the way Watanuki and Doumeki have matured, but it actually really sucks in my opinion that Himawari didn’t end up with him… They spent too much time building up their relationship. I wouldn’t call them the perfect couple at all, but rather a couple that overcame some huge obstacles that were in the way to them ever getting together. I wouldn’t mind leaving it open-ended, so we never know whether they do or not, but just precluding the possibility sucks in my opinion. Perhaps that’s because I’m a sap at heart, and a hopeless romantic.

  8. Ebod says:

    I’ve always seen Watanuki and Himawari more as friends than anything else, and I guess I must be the only one, but I like it that Himawari’s getting married. Helps with the whole Watanuki’s frozen in time while those he loves around him are moving on kind of deal.

    Besides, the whole Watanuki and Doumeki relationship in the manga’s getting gayer and gayer by the chapter. I mean, Himawari has a life outside of Watanuki, and yet it’s heavily implied that Doumeki spends more time at the shop with Watanuki than he does at his own house, sleeps over enough that he has a room in the shop for him, and visits enough that Watanuki doesn’t even have to go somewhere to shop for groceries.

    Not to mention the most recent chapter where Watanuki gave Doumeki something that’s full of implications no matter how you look at it, especially when you see where Doumeki tries to wear it on the first try.

    Though I think their relationship was best summed up by one of the previous OADs:

    “Watanuki, you and Doumeki are such good friends!”
    “Why do the females seem to misunderstand our relationship?!”

  9. SA says:

    Seeing is CLAMP were talking about is, one has to read/see several times a chapter to understand what is happening so, for what I can remember and understood, I’ll try to answer your questions.

    SPOILER ALERT TO BOTH HOLIC & TSUBASA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Fist off, on the manga right now it has been 4 years since Yuuko died. The reason of why she died is tightly knot to the Tsubasa ending in which she was already dead but because of a powerful wish (made by the bad guy in Tsubasa), her time stop and was trap in the time before her death, making a mess of time and space. Because a choice was made within the Tsubasa universe her time began to move again. Before she dies Watanuki promise her that he’ll continue on living, wishing for them to meet again and that he’ll wait for her at long as it takes. So, by making that wish, he becomes the shop owner and stops his “time” until he and Yuuko are reunited. The price for this was that he is not physically capable to leave the shop.

    SPOILERS END!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    The ova is clearly several years later than the current manga time, so I have no idea of the answers to some of the other questions ^^

  10. tomtom says:

    Where can I watch this? (thanks)

  11. Pi says:

    I agree with Ebod,Watanuki and Domeki seemed more like a couple to me–despite the fact Himawari and Watanuki were together in the past (in the current manga that is). Even Yuuko, in the very begining of the manga/anime has told Watanuki that he and Himawari could never be together; Doumeki and he, however, will be a better match/inseparable (or something along those lines)

    I think it’s a shame that Himawari and Watanuki couldn’t be together. Maybe the reason why Himawari was married to someone else for everyone’s best interest–whatever reason it may be.

  12. Karasu says:

    Where can I watch this episode?

  13. xiao1 says:

    GASP! I had no idea the new OVA was out! I loveeee xxxholic. I can’t wait for this to be subbed. *waits impatiently*

  14. Snowolf says:

    I LOVE THIS SHOW SFM. i want to watch it subbed NOW.

    i’m really glad you liked it. xxxHolic is my favorite manga, and i’m glad that the animators are doing a coherent job of fulfilling the role properly and actually explaining what the heck happened between this huge gap of xxxHolic Kei and Rou.

  15. Snowolf says:

    guys, you can watch it live raw streaming here: http://www.jokeroo.com/user-content/videos/animation-film/2010/4/37884-ana-hori-rou.html but so far no subs. :(

  16. Snowolf says:

    i am confused a bit at the end though- the girl/yuuko says ‘tadaima/i’m home’ does that mean she’s coming back? or she has been laid to rest?

  17. Snowolf says:

    Psgels, I’ve figured it out: the girl is NOT a reincarnation/daughter of Yuuko. It’s said in the OAD that the price of the job would that some words would be spoken from someone out of the girl’s mouth. Those words were of Yuuko san. I don’t know why she would say “I’m home” though. Maybe she is laid to rest? IDK.

  18. betawatcher says:

    Ahhh, it looks so beautiful! But I didn’t watch the OVAs, or read any of the manga. I want to start reading the manga, but then I’d have to catch up to a lot, not to mention I might have to start reading Tsubasa again. (and the last time I read that was a loooong time ago…)

    I’ll probably be spoiled and bursting to know properly what happened (even though some people above have explained the situation ^^;) after watching the anime… I can’t wait for this to be subbed!

  19. Carrie says:

    this OAD is FOR MANGA READERS!!!!!! it came packaged WITH THE MANGA and the reason it doesnt answer the questions that you posed is because readers already know the answers. . . its unfortunate for those who just watch the anime but all these questions were answered in the xxxholic AND tsubasa reservoir mangas.

  20. Karasu says:

    Isn’t the reason Watanuki can’t leave the shop beacuase he promised Yuuko he would stay there until she returned or something like that?

  21. Jessica8 says:

    Hey everyone who’s been asking, you can watch xxxHolic over at the Animax Asia website. They have a pretty healthy selection of the latest eps.

    http://www.animax-asia.com/shows/xxxholic

    or

    Watch xxxHolic Episodes Online

    Not sure which one will link. :)

  22. Iggy says:

    Hummm,maybe i missed something in the manga,but Himawari couldn’t get “close” to people right,she brings bad luck,so how she ends up getting married? Mehhhh…

  23. Iqah-chan says:

    So far in the manga, Himawari isnt married yet. They still see each other only once a year(which is 1st April, Watanuki’s Birthday). And yeah, many stuff happened but for all i know, Himawari and Watanuki said to each other “I love you.” Though this seeing each other once a year thingy makes me realise that hey, maybe Himawari may really marry someone else…

  24. ckoi says:

    This is big dissapointment it s good that yuko is back and I am thinking that the girl is her reincarnation himawari well I don t have opinion on that it s stupid and I hope watanuki finishes with yuko because don t know why but anyhow I am thinking that they should make at least one more ova so we know what happens with watanuki because this way you can only make assumptions

  25. leumasxseraph says:

    watch the new OVA w/ subs HERE!!!!!!! 9your welcome)
    http://www.watchanimeon.com/xxxholic-rou-ova-episode-1/

  26. read.linger says:

    im done reading tsubasa, and paatiently waiting for the latest xxxholic rou and kobato chapters, it really helps a lot in understanding this OVA, it answers some of the questions that are still currently on the current chapters, im so happy to hear about yuuko, the question now is where is she? i hope there’s a second part, coz a whole load of questions are coming up. I was hoping to see the tsubasa travellers too when watanuki was thinking of a signature.

  27. Jenica says:

    I really like that Himawari is married to someone else, Watanuki’s high school crush on her was cute… but never seemed that it should end as anything more than friendship.

    And I still don’t see a Yuko/Watanuki pairing; she seems more of a mother/mentor/crazy sensei figure in his life….

    As for Doumeki/Watanuki… it’s never going to happen. The best we’ll see of these two is an implied soul-mate-bond-thing left open-ended for interpretation. *cries*
    Silly need to keep the series mainstream… having the main character paired up with a major character of the same gender is apparently still a no-no unless the series revolves around their relationship.

    The only question I have is how many more chapters of holic are we going to get before Clamp wraps it up for good?

  28. Bear says:

    Just wanted to say I disagree with the “never gonna happen” sentiment above regarding Watanuki and Doumeki. This is CLAMP we’re talking about and they are not remotely shy about shounen ai. You can see it in X and a number of their other works. Even Cardcaptor Sakura has some gay undertones throughout the series. The holic manga is truly bringing Doumeki and Watanuki closer together every week. I’m not saying it *will* happen, but I wouldn’t put it out of the question completely.

    For the record, as a straight guy I am 100% hoping for the implied relationship between Doumeki and Watanuki to carry on and develop further. I don’t need/want to see them go at each other, but their relationship is really dynamic and a joy to watch. Second for me would be Zashiki-Warashi (too bad she has disappeared from the manga/anime recently; I don’t think she ages either!). Didn’t seem to me that Himawari was ever going to happen.

  29. Medha says:

    oh my gosh, i remember this episode. i loved it, but is was so…’WAIT, WHAT? WHAT JUST HAPPENED?’kind of thing. The end killed me though. >..

  30. Medha says:

    [sorry, the earlier comment messed up. >…

  31. Medha says:

    waaah, my comments are screwing up. i fail at life. D:

    anyway, let’s hope it works this time? XD

    oh my gosh, i remember this episode. i loved it, but is was so…’WAIT, WHAT? WHAT JUST HAPPENED?’kind of thing. The end killed me though. D: it’s left on such a cliffhanger, but i guess they aren’t making another OVA? D: i really want them to continue this though. :D if the manga has gone further, maybe i should read the manga… XD

  32. Zaric says:

    Quite disappointed in Watanuki. Instead of coming into his own and actually taking over the shop, he just kinda stalled and is taking up space.

    It seems like he had the potential to actually become the next wish-master, at least while Yuuko was gone; the whole point I gathered was that his part-time at the shop was preparing him for something. It feels like that something had been abandoned.

    Her wish was for him to live on, but you can’t really call what he was doing living. Being stuck in the shop he is more or less a ghost, even if he is “preserving his time” so he can “live on”.

    So yeah. This was dark, and moving, but ultimately frustrating.

  33. Reson why watanuki doesn0t leave shop says:

    The reason he doesn0t leave the shop its his own choice, that has to do with his wish, for yuuko to return, and he said that meanwhile he would stay in the shop (waiting for her )

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....I don't get the joke.
Topgavin
For anyone wondering, I think anon just copy/pasted the entire script for the Bee movie. Memes are goin strong
Anonymous479946
According to all known laws
of aviation,


there is no way a bee
should be able to fly.


Its wings are too small to get
its fat little body off the ground.


The bee, of course, flies anyway


because bees don't care
what humans think is impossible.


Yellow, black. Yellow, black.
Yellow, black. Yellow, black.


Ooh, black and yellow!
Let's shake it up a little.


Barry! Breakfast i
Kaiser Eoghan
Actually I think it was up to about episode ten or so I saw.
Kaiser Eoghan
From what I can recall I watched legend of the galactic heroes somewhere past the part with the Caligula guy.
AidanAK47
That is one thing I wonder about the remake. How are they going to make the space battles interesting? Cause for me theres only so many times you can watch tin boxes shoot lasers and explode.
AidanAK47
I didn't like LOGH until the third episode. That's when it started to catch my attention. It also helps that I have a interest in history as the plot of LOGH practically reads like genuine history.
AidanAK47
In my case the overhype didn't kill it for me as I generally try to avoid that. When I walked into LOGH I was under the impression that it would ahve merit but not be for me. After all I heard it was mostly politics and the politics of Gundam bore me to tears. Funny enough the opposite happened. The space battles bored me but the politics got me really interested.
AidanAK47
@Leahcimali, The problem is that the people who say that something is the best thing they ever seen don't actually mean it. Often it's just hyperbole. When talking we other people fans tend to blow certain things out of proportion unintentionally. Overrated is likely the wrong word but you get what I mean.
leahcimali
@AidankAK47 oh and are you going to write a review about it or because psngel already wrote a review of it you are not gonna write it ?
leahcimali
the problem is trying to rank art . Even comparing a comedy show and a story focus show is clearly impossible. @AidanAK47 do you think the overhype of some hardcore logh fan killed you enjoyment of the show ? Because sometimes when you expect nothing of something you can enjoy it more than when waiting for something incredible.
leahcimali
i hear the same thing from fan of lord of the ring, star wars and game of thrones, star trek ... etc. The hardcore fan of those says that they are the greatest things in history ... but saying there are overated is discrediting the quality of those. Nothing is perfect and again maintening equal quality in a longuer running show is impossible. But having a longer story create a more rich background
LookingForKeys
@Mario Kimi no Na ha is pretty damn good. Watched it while in Japan a couple weeks back. The story has well done surprises, and on the graphics side you can *really* see Production IG worked on it.
leahcimali
I don't think saying logh is overated is a good way to say it. All media with great aclaimed critics or even highly popular show suffer from the fan reaction. If fan claim that it is the best things that they have ever saw and you don't agree, it feels overated. But this is only pure subjectivity. Saying he is greastest thing in history is a way for fan to exprim there love
AidanAK47
However it has been placed on a unreasonable pedestal that nothing could live up to. Eva is sort of in the same boat. So yes it is overrated but that does not mean it isn't great.
AidanAK47
@Leahcimali, if anything is claimed to be the greatest thing in the history of mankind it is overrated. The basic idea that there is a single anime out there which is fundamental and universally better than all other anime regardless of genre or intent is inherently a flawed concept. I do certainly see why LOGH is so highly acclaimed and I believe it is well worth watching.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I didn't look into the details of the new LOGH remake. I was planning on doing that when I am doing an anime season preview for it whenever it's going to air next year. For a long anime it does rate highly but even then I am not certain it really needed all 110 of those episodes.
leahcimali
about your comment are you thinking the LOGH anime is overated ? i ask Because you said that there is plenty of anime you consided better .
Anonymous476875
about the remake won't it be a straight adaptation from the manga remake by the artist that made shiki ?
Anonymous476875
AidanAK47 personally i really loved legend of the galactic heroes and it is one of the anime that make one of the biggest impact on me. I found it the best "long" anime that i ever seen (more than 24 ep). But comparing it to anime with shorter format is a bit hard. you can make something that have perfect pacing in 1h30 but it is impossible with a 110 ep anime.
AidanAK47
Either way I am pretty certain that all other isn't crap to me now seeing as I have seen the so called pinnacle. In fact There are plenty of anime I consider better that LOGH.
AidanAK47
There are aspects of its story which wouldn't really work by today's standards.
AidanAK47
And I did it. I watched legend of the galactic heroes. I have slain the white whale of anime. It certainly was interesting to say the least but I think the remake coming is going to have trouble. I am in between giving it a 8 or a 9 but it's clear that LOGH is very much a product of its time.
Kaiser Eoghan
I didn't really care for this weeks flipflappers, the fanservice and also it was even more trigger than I could take.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Gavin@Mario: I'll get round to your name someday but I think this might be my last chance with shinkai.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: That disgaea review made me nostalgic because I remember my friends and I playing it back when it first came out. We found it difficult but were amused by it/liked the characters.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Are the manga posts exclusively for series with only a few chapters translated or series that came out in the past year or so? I've been reading gunka no balthazar and enjoying it enough and think it should get recommendation out there.
Topgavin
Just booked tickets to go see it on Sunday with my little sister. Was surprisingly reluctant but I know she'll like it, I've already seen it but pumped either way.
SuperMario
Your name movie has been showed theatrically here in Aus, I'm planning to rewatch it soon in theatre and then do a review on it. Is that alright with other admins?
SuperMario
so I guess the top 6 will advance to the final are: Otabek Altin (Kazakhstan), Giacometti (Switzerland), Yuri, Yurio, JJ and Phichit? Will be very cool final event haha
SuperMario
At the very least Yuri on Ice shows me how entertaining ice skating can be
SuperMario
@K-Off: have a good trip ahead K-Off. Well, it's still better than Japan (earthquake) I guess
K-Off
Well, heading to Korea tomorrow. What a time to go. In the middle of Korea's biggest financial scandal since the 80s.
Lenlo
Is it just me, or does the Yuri on Ice opening get more colorful and detailed every week?
SuperMario
Badesh, if you like to check out their other songs, give "Tunnels of Love" and "Romeo & Juliet" a listen. Though I just discovered Telegraph Road quite recently, those 2 songs are qmong my all time favorite
SuperMario
I prefer their ealier version when the band was still together (aLCHEMY 1983), but that Rome 2005 was magnificent too. Seriously with this band diifferent live versions feel like another experience... And that song is criminally under-heard in radio too, because of its running time. A crying shame
Badesh
uhh, found it in better quality. now, THAT is a fitting present for my dad :)
Badesh
well that commentator, that sounds like he's in a soccer match, will get on my nerves though...
Badesh
if you're talking about the rome 2005 version... hell, that's some sweet music. i'll inhale that for the rest of the evening, thanks for that
SuperMario
Anyone here listen to Dire Straits? I just in the mood for their music lately. Checked out the band playing Telegraph Road live the other day on youtube and I was completely stunned.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I considered Flip Flappers 3,5,6 to be its best so far so continue on to see if Flip Flappers is your cup of tea or not
SuperMario
For me I have a lot of stuffs to catch up on this time a year, both in terms of anime and in my RL. Time goes fast as hell
Lenlo
Started watching Flip Flappers. Thought I had it figured out, then we got Mad Max going on. I may start liking it more, cause the first 2 eps didnt do much
Lenlo
Its also nearing Thanksgiving in the states and end of semester for University, so those sorts will be busier than usual.
AidanAK47
You are far too young to be reminiscing. You can build a place for a community but you can't force one to come. I for one would think it would be easier to form one if people stopped using the Anon tag. You can change your name with the customize button you know.
Anonymous469664
I remember a time when people other than site admins were regular posters. Those were the days...
AidanAK47
But I suppose watching Westworld isn't exactly a waste of time.
AidanAK47
Downside is that I really don't have a lot of time these days. It's rather annoying. The day goes by and it doesn't really feel like you did anything.
AidanAK47
On the upside, I am nearly finished Legend of the galactic heroes. So when the Remake airs next year I will have a lot to say about it.
AidanAK47
Personally I have been rather busy lately and wanted to finish off a few things. Hence why my posts have been getting later.
AidanAK47
Anyway when there's nothing on the chat box to talk about then of course it dries up.
AidanAK47
You have unfortunate timing.
Anonymous469664
All the chat regulars have left house as well.
Anonymous469664
Four days since a single post.
K-Off
Damn, I don't know if it's the layout/algorithm/mods, but so many subreddits that I used to frequent have gotten watered down as hell. Between the influx of shills and changes to the upvote/downvote system (which doesn't properly convey controversial comments anymore, like 45 upvotes to 47 downvotes. Now it shows only a -2) it's hard to find reasonable debates or find important info
SuperMario
@K-off: and for that book the last time I checked it was $110 for you guys who live US plus free shipping. For us it's $150 not incluing the postage and few weeks delivery.
K-Off
Damn, I didn't realize that it could be that bad elsewhere. The worst experience I had was when I ordered a laser pointer from Switzerland over a forum, and the cunt didn't respond for nearly 4 weeks until I threatened to refund my $250 on PayPal.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Europe. That's the difference.
SuperMario
@Aidan: yeah I got a dispatch notice saying it's shipping now. I ordered it back in September as well so I don't know why the difference between us.
Kaiser Eoghan
I remember the days where I used to be relying on waiting for anime dvds to come out locally , looking back they were really overpriced, 35 euro for 4 or 5 episodes.
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