Posted by psgels on 25 June 2010 with categories: Angel Beats, Anime Reviews




For Angel Beats, Key decided to go into a completely different direction: no more visual novels but instead a straight-up anime production, instead of being a straight-up drama, it tosses in all kinds of different genres, it’s got a much more upbeat mood than any other Key work so far, but at the same time it still has some of the elements that made Air and Clannad so addictive. It’s definitely a great premise in theory.

It’s a comedy, adventure story, action series, drama, and sometimes also a romance and slice of life series, but at its core Angel Beats is a full fledged mystery-series. The characters are thrown into a setting they know nothing about, and gradually it unfolds its true nature. Really, the biggest reason why you’d want to watch this series is for the creativity, and the large amount of ideas that the creators tried to put into it. They really tried to create an original world with a lot of depth behind it, and the mystery itself is written quite skillfully to make optimal use of how it unfolds, resulting in a great climax.

The rest of the series would be best described as ‘chaos’, both in the good and in the bad ways. Over thirteen episodes, the pacing is really all over the place. It makes for a number of interesting episodes, but at times the series also just stops trying to make sense. A lot of scenes are just disjointed from each other, and this series hops from one plot twist to the other without much of a transition.

Unfortunately, Key just had way too many ideas that it wanted to put into just thirteen episodes. I think what suffers from this the most is the characterization: it’s often rushed and cheesy because of it, and while the cast as a whole is impressive and enjoyable to watch, nearly all of the characters are rushed through so that only two of them get some actual time to tell their story. The rest of the (for 13 episodes) HUGE cast has their moments in which they just don’t work or connect when they should.

These pacing and rushed issues really prevent this series from standing out, but nevertheless it has quite a bit to like, and its ideas will keep you busy as long as you don’t expect too much of it as a key series. While good, it didn’t have the “oomph” that I experienced with the Air and Clannad TV-series and movies.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Good mystery, very varied, but also rushed.
Characters: 7/10 – The cast shines as a whole, but most of the individual characters lack attention.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Excellent animation and visuals, especially the money shots.
Setting: 9/10 – Original settings. It may have a few plot-holes, but the creativity put into it more than makes up for it.

Suggestions:
Air
Haibane Renmei

33 Responses

  1. chounokoe says:

    I’m actually surprised how you could manage to give such a high rating for this series.
    I mean, even though DRRR didn’t make the best of it’s source material, does it really deserve to be put on the same level as Angel Beats?!

    Maybe we just got a different understanding of what a series should have. While you praised the fact how many things it tried to do, I found that very tiring after a while and it always kept the series from arriving anywhere.
    The finale was just pulled from a tophat along with a very flashy bunny to divert us from the fact that it does not make much sense.
    And as someone already pointed out on the comments for episode 13, the organ donor plot hole was even worse.

    Not only that, it featured an immense cast of which more than 50% stayed even below characterized. They were just there to deliver lines in certain scenes…

    I have to admit, I’m not a large fan of Key and I only really liked AIR. But even when I put my bias as much into the back as I can, this show is just sub-par in terms of planning and execution.
    It’s not that I don’t want you to like it, it’s just strange to see it so high up in the rating range.

  2. jcb says:

    Its story is sort of the Lost story, isn’t it?

    Pretty good series, except for some over the top comedy.

  3. Rockmanshii says:

    Actually I’m surprised too, even if I love this series, I thought your rating would be much more severe because of the repetition gags you didn’t enjoyed or the pacing issues.Hmmm I don’t know how to say it, I’m glad you said the “truth” that’s why I read your blog.

  4. GGGGG says:

    “It’s a comedy, adventure story, action series, drama, and sometimes also a romance and slice of life series, but at its core Angel Beats is a full fledged mystery-series.”

    Thank you for understanding that, psgels! Some writers can really lose focus when they try so many genres, but, in this case, they pulled all of those in a quite fluid way.

    And about the lack of characterization of the rest of the cast, @chounokoe, I don’t really see that as a flaw. IMO, considering the number of episodes, most of them were indeed put there just to deliver one-liners and for comedy value, but the fact that we got interested shows that even side characters doesn’t have to be 2D…

    Sad ending, btw…

  5. Bruce says:

    I think psgels gave this such a high rating because it was ambitious and tried to be creative, while DRRR chose to be on the safe side with its second half.

    Overall this series felt as if somebody created an utterly fantastic 26 episode series and had to truncate it into only 13 episodes. The result is that while the scope of this series is very large, the show really struggles to deliver on it.

  6. FlameStrike says:

    Wow I’m glad to see such a well rounded review. There are some people who focused in on the negative aspects of the show and ignored the positives, and others who ignored the negatives and just relished in the positives. I’m glad to see someone who takes both sides into account and gives his opinion. I agree with you in that it’s a good show overall and fun to watch, but it’s not nearly on the masterpiece level. Previous key works like Clannad had much more oomhp and etc, but for 13 eps I’d say AB did pretty well despite it’s numerous glaring flaws.

  7. m says:

    Angel Beats! was quite a project. You had a lot of music, with accompanying singles, animated musical performances, and whatnot. From that enterprise I got to enjoy the animation, “My Soul, Your Beats!” and “Brave Song.” The instrumental version of the latter is pretty nice.
    The anime itself has serious compression artifacts, and up until episode 9 it was repetitively missing the mark due to the humor whiplash. Episode 9 seems to be the high point for the show, but I think the episodes after that are OK, even if rushed. Even the jokes worked for me better after they stopped trying to cram them in. If they had invested more money for a longer series or tried to do less, the whole thing may have been a lot smoother.

    The show could use a reboot. I liked watching it, but their ambition was too big for their budget.

  8. Mizst says:

    It’s true that the action in Angel Beats is all over the place and that is somewhat of a liability, but each of those episodes tells us about the world works. The varied nature helps keep it from being repetitive while it does the explaining.

    On an unrelated note, I find that most criticisms of this anime out there stem from those critics’ desire to see every single detail explained LOTR-style – the story behind every character, thorough explanation for every plot point, even the story behind the creation of the world. This is an unrealistic expectation. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with having dozens of characters and focusing on two or three, or not explaining every little detail about the plot and the world. For a 13-episode series, the story is remarkably complete.

    The enjoyment of this series also depends on the realistic expectation on the viewer’s part. This anime is really one of the most excellent animes out there.

  9. the arbiter says:

    I agree with OP. Angel Beats! hardly deserves to be put on the same pedestal as Durarara!.

  10. Rockmanshii says:

    Hmmm I like both a lot but I guess I like Durarara!! a little more.

  11. MsteaK says:

    DURARARA is certainly better, but whatever.

    My main gripe with Angel Beats was its relentless attempt at creating (or rather forcing) melodrama. How the hell should I care so much about these characters when they’re one-dimensional and the drama is all character-based?

  12. betawatcher says:

    The biggest mistake the creators made was that they didn’t make this series a 26-episode series. Nuffsaid.

  13. Abxes says:

    I liked Angel Beats!, it is one of the best things I have watched this season and nobody will change my opinion about that. But I still read the critics because I like to see what other people think. It’s true, the story is a little rushed, especially at the end, but it is still a good series. I have noticed that a lot of the negative opinions of the final episode, come from a misunderstanding of its plot.
    -SPOILERS AHEAD-

    Sure, the donor is contra intuitive, one could think, prima facie that it doesn’t make any sense. How could Kanade be there to thank Otonashi for the heart he gave to her if she arrived earlier? Well, if you think about it, it can be possible. Otonashi had no memories when he got to this afterlife, it is possible to think that his soul wandered for days, months, years of real world time before getting to the afterlife, remember that Otonashi wasn’t meant to be there in the first place. It was possible for Kanade to arrive first, maybe she died shortly after receiving Otanashi’s heart at went directly to the school. When that made sense, you can see that everything in the end did! Why didn’t Otonashi disappear when he fully regained his memories? Why Kanade wasn’t able to disappear? I think it was beautifully planned by the one who made this anime. Sure, it could have been better, it is rushed, it needed to be an 26 episodes, it tried to do too much for an anime that would be so short (because of this, some episodes felt rushed or were even incoherent). I think the characters where also thought to be developed, but you can’t do that in only 13 episodes. It would have been nice to have a episode 14 so we could see how everyone disappeared instead of just knowing they did and it would be even better to have a episode 15 to know what happenen to them after that, but it’s still good.
    As betawatcher said, the only mistake the creator made was that they didn’t make this series a 26-episodes one. Overall, I think Angel Beats deserves the 82,5 rating. It could have been better, it has more holes than a Swiss cheese, and it is still that good and had the potential to be even better. Personally, loved the show.

  14. Anonymous says:

    Durarara better than Angel Beats? Please. I don’t know what you guys are smoking, but I want some. Durarara was quite bad in its second half.

  15. Denizen says:

    Whilst I liked this show, I thought it read more like a rough draft or short story – this wouldn’t be a problem if it weren’t for the fact that there were lots of great characters, interesting concepts and opportunity for something deeper within the setting.

    I liked it, but it’s one of many anime recently that have this potential and never give themselves the chance to really make the most of it. I would have liked to know more about the side-characters, see some more interesting antagonistic qualities, and generally just see the AB world’s interesting qualities much more.

  16. Aaeru says:

    Reading through Animesuki was generally bad. But it was actually visiting nihonreview forums that was a total nightmare. Those people say the most disgusting things regarding Angel Beats. They treated it like trash – like dirt to be spat on. I am not even looking for someone to agree with me. I just want people to see the show from a level-headed perspective, see the good and the bad, then appreciate it for what it is.

    If only some of these people would take a look at some of the stupid things that most Japanese people laugh at, or some of their most popular shows. Perhaps then, they might finally take Angel Beats too in perspective.

    source
    http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=82070
    http://www.nihonreview.com/forum/index.php?topic=1380.0

  17. Roldan says:

    It was pretty good except for the fact that the anime couldn’t build up anything >_>.. except for the final twist with Ootanashi and Kanade, which was a pretty good twist indeed :D.. it could’ve have been close to 90 if it had been over 20+ episodes.

  18. Solaris says:

    Otonashi arrived after Kanade, as she’s still (half)alive. She’s like Shigofumi: a soul that departed from her body because of an illness. She’s an Ikiryou.
    Thes kind of ghosts are pretty common in anime, but they’re hardly understood by western fandom as they’re peculiar to japanese only miths. Other Ikiryou are Clannad’s Fuko Ibuki and Kanon’s Ayu Tsukimiya. These shows are also Key’s production by any chance :)

    And while the show isn’t terrible, it really suffered by little developement and lack of pacing and direction. I hope they’ll redo from scratch like they did it for Kanon, as Angel Beats was rather promising.

  19. Hogart says:

    Angel Beats was a simple premise that was poorly fleshed-out and even more poorly executed. It felt like they had a core story long enough for a 4-6 episode OVA, but had to fill out 13 episodes. Then they overshot that mark and designed something meant for 24+ episodes. They sure didn’t have a clue what to do with it, as they’re always jumping around hoping we’ll be distracted by some pointless new distraction.

    I can’t be kind about it. Angel Beats is a total mess. It’s rife with awful writing and bland characters. It only gets by because of it’s over-reliance on writing cliche. It has Maeda’s trademark ridiculous hyperdrama, and a ton of superfluous expy-like characters without a purpose. It’s Hollywood hack writing in anime form, and if it’s success is any indication we’re destined for more of it.

    But you know what? People clearly don’t care. And frankly, neither do I. I’ve given Maeda enough of my attention, ditto PA Works. Since neither of them can create an anime that isn’t mediocre, this just gives me two names to avoid when picking up series in the future (unless PA Works gets back to just animating anime for other studios).

  20. Vir says:

    Honestly this is one of The best animes I have ever watched, I really wish it would have just kept going on. Hopefully sometime in the future they can come up with another cast and story line and make a second angel beats

  21. Justwon says:

    I liked Angel Beats! even though the episodes didn’t make coherent sense sometimes (most of the time), to me I was only really paying attention to Yuri, Kanade, and Yuzuru anyway. From the beginning I could tell that it was going to center on those three, and to me the rest of the characters were just extras when they were by themselves. I did feel a few pangs in my chest when I was watching their individual stories (the ones I got to watch, instead of all those who just magically disappeared with no camera time), so that was a plus for me.

    Now about the last episode… That fourth guy, the on that makes the jokes, should not have been there at all. As far as I’m concerned he should have vanished with the girl who filled in as lead singer when the original disappeared. When he came back the next episode, I was kinda feeling a bit of (a lot of) “WTF?”
    Other than that, I liked it a lot lol, could have been done better, but the whole series could have been done better. I don’t want to seem the copy-cat, but everyone else here is right, the studio was just too ambitious for the amount of episodes they were able to make, I think that the whole concept is great, but I hate those shows that just does things, half explains it, and then cuts them out of the rest of the story-line altogether (that half goes to Code Geass R2… LULU LIVES).

    If Key doesn’t remake this or doesn’t churn out 2+ very good OVA’s that actually explain in an easy to understand manner, I will be very disappointed.

  22. Alan says:

    the ending was sad. ;( lol i wish they had included more episodes. or maybe increase the storyline for a sequel or OVA or somethin!!! O___O
    for me, this anime just lacked the detailed description of the characters. >,…,

  23. Alan says:

    oh btw O.0 lmao the end was weird. thought something will happen b/w yuzuru and yuri. …..oh wait. meh >_> i guess i predicted too much just after seeing him say ‘why does she smell so nice O_O *blush* ‘

  24. SexyRexy says:

    I personally loved Angel Beats because the story felt unique. A world in the afterlife where you can’t die.(because they’re already dead) There is Yurippe who leads a group of people trying to fight against a God or whatever other great force there is out there that gave them an unfair life. A rather interesting goal that they had in mind.

    @JustWon Hinata(the blue hair guy) didn’t disappear because he had something he needed to finish up, which he says he wanted to help Otonashi in his quest to allow others to move on. I would consider that another one of Hinata’s regrets.

    I hear a lot of about how there needs to be more character development/deep story telling but remember that there are main characters and sub characters. Stories have a main focus on a certain person or certain people. In Angel Beats the story focused around Otanashi which is why he seemed to have the most indepth story telling of his memories before he died.

    There will be important characters and less important characters. If every single Battlefront member had their history told then they would start to become more of a main character. That isn’t possible because you will always have characters with more key roles than others.(Yurripe as leader for example) Developing many characters is nice but what’s the point of telling the history of a character when they’re rarely going to be used anyways. Take the band members for example. Why bother telling their story when they only show up when commencing operation tornado.

    Now I will say that although they can’t get all of the characters’ backgrounds told they could have gotten more in detail about Yurripe. They never explained how she died or what happened after that incident, how she made a living or acted at school.

    Also I don’t get what’s up with this and that about Clannad more “oomph”. Clannad was a notable series but in my eyes(yes we see the world of anime differently) it was just another anime about friends at school and 2 of them liking each other because they hung out so much.

  25. SexyRexy says:

    This is way late but I’ll also add in that it’s pretty stupid to compare Angel Beats to Clannad in the first place considering that they are 2 completely different series.

    They’re made from the same company but they’re not the same. Get it straight.

  26. Phaseus says:

    I loved this anime. Romance, action, friendships, guns, and comedy. What the hell isn’t there to like? One thing that really captured my attention was the fact that this has been the only tear jerker in my entire life (entertainment wise) But then I watched the ending so kinda fixed the mood.

  27. Phaseus says:

    I loved this anime. Romance, action, friendships, guns, and comedy. What the hell isn’t there to like? One thing that really captured my attention was the fact that this has been the only tear jerker in my entire life (entertainment wise) But then I watched the ending so kinda fixed the mood.

  28. Jono Funk says:

    I felt it was a great series, I don’t understand why everyone whines so much. No i don’t need every single character’s lifestory annoying flashed back to buffer the series length. (cough Naruto cough). For example I found that TK was a fun enjoyable character who only revealed how much he actually knew with his little one liners. I was happy with that and didn’t see the need to know about all the facts of his life. And he turned out to be one of my favorites. I’m glad that only the main characters got to explain their situation.

    If it had been 26 eps you people would be whining about repetition of the characters sob stories. Yes the plot progresses a little quickly, but it does so in a progressive manner (I never felt lost at any stage). I feel that is better than dragging it out more than necessary.

    I found the distinct lack of explanations only added to the mystery, and I think the only reason everyone gave such negative comments is because it left us hungry for more. The ending was satisfying and since i did not expect the final twist it left me in a state of shock. Which is rare achievement for the entertainment industry these days.

  29. Drako says:

    Just finished watching this series. I didn’t expect much of it, but it has left such a huge impression on me.

    The humour in the anime was what kept me going in the first few episodes, with the timing of it done very well, and made me chuckle quite a bit.

    What was the most impacting thing of this series was the plot, and when the ending came and the entire thing unfolded before me, I was utterly satisfied. The anime is definitely like a mystery-series, and each plot twist was surprising.

    Most characters weren’t explored in detail at all, but I still enjoyed each one. Especially Yuri, who manages to be a strong leader even though she has gone through so much hardship.

    The ending was the most emotionally wrenching part though. I’m not going to spoil it, but when it was revealed, I was tempted to cry and was mind-blown at the same time.

    I normally find it hard to let go of an anime I find good, but when it comes to Angel Beats, it’s the most hardest anime I’ve ever found to let go of. The ending was satisfactory, yes, but the emotion I felt was something I find hard to let go. I almost wish there would be a season 2 even though I don’t see at all how the series could possibly continue. Guess I’ll just have to be satisfied with what I’ve seen.

  30. Digi says:

    i liked this series a lot and based on the reviews of this site , umm sorry -_- this site gives tar driver 80/100 , it was such a shit , a complete shit anime, n i do think some of your reviews sucks , simply

  31. TenshiVersionSix says:

    You gotta give Angel Beats some credit though. The makers of Durara had a manga and a light novel to work off of. This was completely original.

  32. Ra says:

    Roughly the first half: Enjoyed the comedy and animation and all. Great cast doing funny and unexpected stuff. An absolutely brilliant anime in this part.

    Second half: The fairly cool “villain” is no longer. The show gets way more serious and less light-hearted. A bunch of episodes fleshing out a few people, a lot of things that seem like important plot points started… but then immediately comes filler, next and everything is wrapped up with a mostly forced dramatic ending that really made little sense in so many ways (events, character relations, setting … all very contreived) – but it should have in a series that takes this serious tone. For all the second part of the series, only the final ceremony was actually working quite well, but given how the show got there, even that wasn’t quite as strong as it would have been otherwise.

    Indeed, a much longer series or having the second half cut entirely would probably have been better.

  33. Frankie says:

    My one and only issue was not knowing who da heck TK (i hope i got his name right..been a while for show) really was..beside that i loved it and cried like a little biatch at end and for quite a few other moments.

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AidanAK47
@Amagi, that scene is one that you really need to see though the eyes of the protagonist. It is doubtful an anime could capture that moment. It was one moment you truly resonated with the protagonist.
AidanAK47
@Sash, Any VN you can find on Steam is All Ages(Meaning that sex scenes are cut out. Not that it's not graphic as All Ages Vans are certainly not for all ages.) I would recommend Sharin no Junior. There is sex scenes in it but you should only encounter one playing through the main route. The House in fata Morgana is also a good one.
Amagi
They'll never manage to make THAT scene as shocking as in the VN.
Amagi
The VN is great. It's linear story telling but one of those VNs I doubt anybody can adapt properly.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I want a muv-luv anime that isn't a spinoff.
Because I'm too lazy to read the VN.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I always get those funny looks when I say Saya is my favourite VN.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I must ashamedly say that I did read Sono Hanabira ni Kuchizuke o, if only just to read a VN that was all about the ecchi/H.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've also played phenomeno.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Been meaning to get into that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've played sharin, maou, saya, cartharga, fate/stay night, swan song, planeterium, narrcissu, Eden, both kara no shoujo games, some of fata morganna, some of comyu.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't know forest either.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I didn't like one thing I read by the ever 17 author, it kept annoying me to get any worthwhile end out of it. Even though I liked the premise.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Sash: I enjoy the stories VNs offer, Aidn recommended me a share, but while I've liked them, the format I needed to get used to and yes the time commitment.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Not key, but Phenomono or narrcisu seems safer a bet, unless you hate horror then avoid phenemono.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't like any of the Jun Maeda Key melodrama anymore, but there are all ages versions of their visual novels.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I believe Aidan still needs to read kara no shoujo 2 . I don't know what Ignarock or sharnoth is . What is the name of the post(or was it pre) apocaypse shoujo-ai visual novel?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I played saya first because of story, atmosphere, short length.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually based on his reactions, recommend him the freeware stuff.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Sash: I was also going to say I was worried about recommending any visual novel then. I said kira kira, sharin and g senjou because they seemed safer, but there is H scenes in them, but not tonnes.
Amagi
@Sash https://vndb.org might be useful. You can search with tags there, including technical aspects like "voiced", "moving mouths" and stuff like that.
Sash
Or rather, none hentai
Sash
I also tend to be open to most genres, but please keep it PG...
Amagi
lone = long
Amagi
Thinking back I am pretty sure Saya no Uta actually was my first VN. It was popular back then and rather short so it was kind of a good entry level VN (for me), same as with narcissu and Planetarian which I read right after that. Think my first lone VN was either Ever17 or Sharin no Kuni.
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@AidanAK47: Yes, it such a huge time commitment! That's the sole reason I don't share your sentiment. As for what my taste is... I don't know since that was my first ever Visual Novel. For now I would like ones with voice actors in it.
Amagi
I should really read more stuff I haven't read any VN the last year for some reason.
Amagi
Speaking of VNs I wish one of this utsukushii series would get an anime adaption someday. Maybe Sharnoth or Inganock. I loved Forest as well which had a similar style and other stuff with Meteor involved (of courise including the Fate series).
Kaiser-Eoghan
Allow me to re-phrase in layman's English: "If he could handle something as explicit or dark as saya no uta we could suggest it if he thought he was up for it, he could read it at some point if he thought he could handle it, sash, do you think you can handle something messed up like that, if not, perhaps you should play sharin no kuni instead"
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It isn't even annoyingly edgy to me. Just why even bother watching/reading it at all was my reaction.
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I've seen bits of the ovas for euphoria, I stress bits of them. Not something I'd dwell on or bother to watch more fully, it went too far to where it just produced a numbing effect where I just don't react to it, to where it neither becomes shocking or laughable.
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The reason I mentioned tolerance level was because I wanted him to respond to confirm if he cold handle those darker games because hell if I know what he's able for.
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Also kirakira is another safe recommendation.
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Thats why I stated sharin and maou were safer recommendations.
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Jesus Kaiser, why not chuck Subihibi and Euphoria on top of that if you are so determined to traumatise him. None of those should be first time recommendations.
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Ideally we could recommend him saya no uta, kara no shoujo or Swan song, but we don't know his tolerance level. Based on that Sharin no kuni and G senjou maou might be the safest recommendations.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though I'm wondering if he played a version without the H-scenes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Aiyoku no Eustia and Comyu adaptation and full translation WHEN.
AidanAK47
@Sash, That's good to hear. Also fair play on playing it as it is a pretty huge time commitment. If you haven't I would recommend checking out other visual novels as you might find something that would be more for you. I can even throw out some recs if you are interested.
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*allows us
I will probably watch shojo kageki dubbed.
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I've fallen behind on shoujo kageki and sirius.
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....was lovingly semi-oneric.
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That kids backstory is so depressing in happy sugar life. Nail pulling scene messed me up. I also watched the new satsuriku no tenshi episode, this is definately going at a quicker place, they skipped a whole character and by doing so, also a flashback involving Cathy. Though I'm not too bothered by it as it also us to get to the big bad quicker and focus on Zack/Rachel. First bit of this episode
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@Kaiser-Eoghan: yes... I meant that...
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Talking about being born in a digital age huh?
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@Kaiser, for my old roommate maybe. I dont think ive ever bought a magazine in my life
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@Sash: Do you mean visual novel?
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Admit it Lenlo, you would buy that magzine with Ash and Eiji on it.
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@AidanAK47: i have recently read the light novel of Fate Stay Night and, though I don't share your sentiment, I do see why you love it so much
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Sword art is one of those things that everywhere you look you'll see it hated, yet in rolls in the money.
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Well, its hated by certain parts of the community. Usually western parts.
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@Mitsuko, yep we are well aware. But as an FYI, SAO is hated heavily in the anime community. So another season isn't exactly a cause for celebration but rather a dejected sigh.
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Banana Fish, back on track. Also, this ED is my favorite of the season.
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@Lenlo i agree that was one of the best i cried in that part
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Oh I know it is. Doesnt mean I have to acknowledge it. Mothers Rosario was the only SAO arc I actually liked, and Kirito had almost no involvement in it
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@Mitsuko: Its gone on for too long.
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i dont know if anyone said this already or that you know but sword art online is coming out with a season 3 in october right
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i miss Shino god i hope there is another season were she gets out of her coma and haseo and Shino get together if that happens then god it will be amazing
Kaiser-Eoghan
Don't think I brought this up, but I've only seen one season of Bleach, random episodes of DBZ, few episodes of Naruto and two volumes of one piece, most I got was 32 episodes of hunter x hunter.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Another example is I can't get into most shounen because it isn't seinen. Too often I can't separate shounen jump stuff from each other in my head even if I know they are different.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I suppose I do experience exceptions , I could probably find one dark moe show that'd work for me like Happy sugar life, but in general I utterly despise mixing moe cute girl antics with horror.
@Anon: Its because often the time travel/reset thing is used in those stories as an extra lives/chances cheat.
Lenlo
I can agree that, largely, avoiding a genre or style you dont like is fine. It just means you will miss the occasional exception. Because there is always an exception that fits the mold, but is good enough you enjoy it anyways.

Like im not normally a fan of rom-coms or melodrama, but I enjoyed Toradora. Never would have watched it under normal circumstances either
Anonymous2585479
@Aidan, Well Evangelion was a bad example as I had read a bit of the manga version at one point.
A better example would have been Steins Gate which I avoid for the simple reason that time travel stories annoy me, especially if they involve changing the past.
Thing is though, I don't agree that this is any different from avoiding fanservice or "standard crap", even those can surprise rarely.
Lenlo
There were some I knew I wouldnt like and tried anyways, like Clannad, but some that pleasantly surprised me like Space Dandy.

@Aidan, yeah. I had to experience it. I just... there was so much wrong in the episode I am having a hard time writing it up without feeling like im just ragging on it non stop
AidanAK47
@Anon, I don't really argee with that mindset as I feel you don't really know if something is for you until you see it for yourself. Not saying you have to plough though it even if you hate it. But giving it at least one episode I think is needed. Well unless it's something like a fanservice show or standard crap.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I was thinking about warning you when I seen you got excited about that but decided it would just be better to see for yourself.
Anonymous2584737
Happens to me with plenty of things, for example I refuse to touch Evangelion since I know enough about it say that I have no interest.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There has to be a moment where you just accept somethings just not going to click for you.
Kaiser-Eoghan
For example I will never watch darling in the Franxx because of kill la kill.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Have you reached the point where you no longer care when you hate something popular or refuse to watch it out of sheer disinterest?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Do you all think there comes a time, where you get to where you know you don't need to even bother watching a certain show because you know yourself enough to know there is no hope it'll be your thing? To where you simply pass on it, not even watching the first episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The Hanebado death stare is real, the eyes THE EYES man the eyes =O
Kaiser-Eoghan
Stupid steins; gate, why must it bully Lenlo. Although I've not watched the episode yet....am I right in saying things may be heading in the direction we feared?
Lenlo
*sigh* Steins;Gate physically hurt me this week. I am disappoint
Kaiser-Eoghan
In general I tend to turn my mind off to scientific inaccuracy in fiction and because honestly, I have a fairly poor memory for much of the facts.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I remember school biology classes, couldn't bring myself to cut an animal heart/frog/worm and tapped out of doing it. I remember being told, someone thinking it was all a laugh and they threw one of the hearts into a bush somewhere on the school grounds.
SuperMario
Then again, biology is amongst my least favorite subject :(
SuperMario
@Vonter: I'm still following Cells at Work but I have long since given up on making a real life connection. But let's see, i think your first statement was right but I'm not sure about the second one
Vonter
I've been watching Cells at Work! And I'm not sure if I get the analogy of an allergy. The allergens makes the body counter act with a chemical that in turn makes the body over release another chemical that irritates and produces sneezes. And an steroid counteracts the allergy by breaking down in a small degree that section of they body?
Lenlo
Honestly, im not sure if its intentional or not, because the rest of the english in the paper is actually pretty good.
Lenlo
The Dairy Cod? Oh yes
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did you happen to notice the L/R error/ no differentiation in the top left screenshot in your banana fish post? Sayss Dairy Cape cod instead of daily cape cod.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*these
Kaiser-Eoghan
I keep listing to those mixtape and vaporwave things on youtube very frequently.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh so that was the name of that show where I saw Urasawa and Itou being interviewed.
Lenlo
Look up Manben on youtube. Its basically where they do an hour long episode on a Mangaka, film their process, and talk about their philosophies while making it
Lenlo
If your interested in the manga process
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now that I remember, there was a part where they were praying for the idols. Someone said it has become like a pseudo-religion.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd love to see some documentaries about anime/manga and more about Japan .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Adding to what I said though, as bad as Japans idol thing is, the music industry everywhere has its awfully sleazy side.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In a way, I sort of feel like I can't fully judge the guy who paid for 100s of idol concerts....when admittedly I've spent my fair share over the years on hentai.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I saw that documentary I talked about a few comments ago, because the post would have been 500 words long, I put it on pastebin: https://pastebin.com/D7CuaA4F
Lenlo
I dunno, I quite enjoy the characters. Endeavor had an arc recently that was particularly good.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually I want to specify on that comment, I'm not looking down on hero academia, more suggesting the broadness of its appeal.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In terms of planet with, I've only seen the first episode of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have found though that Academia, much like titan, is partially an anime for people who don't watch anime.
Kaiser-Eoghan
On Hero academia, on my end it would probably be more accurate to say that its not a case of hating it, moreso not my thing.
AidanAK47
I don't hate Hero Aca. My problem is that it really isn't doing anything new. Every beat traced from shounen legacy. It's executed well no doubt and I am sure animation wise it trumps old shounen. And if it can avoid the trap of every long running shounen of going past it's due then it could end up the most polished. But it's still a new dog doing old tricks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But in all seriousness. Regarding Planet with, sometimes you have to care for whats been subverted before you can get anything out of the subversion.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: If you don't like my one-liners, you should sea my ocean liners, they're practically to drown for.
AidanAK47
On Fate GO, yeah I really think that some banners are more generous than others. Hoping the Prisma banner is generous because I need to get together the Emiya family.
Lenlo
Really? I quite like Hero Aca, its probably my favorite current shounen, granted this current arc isnt the best. Granted I also keep up with the manga so know how it all plays out.
AidanAK47
And subversion in a good way. Not like Fate Extra over here which subverts expectations by having the endboss leave the show offscreen but instead subverting to keep you on your toes while keeping the satisfaction of a well conculded fight. That moment when he pulled out the clog for a finisher was unexpected, hilarious and amazing.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Yep. To me Boku hero is how to use tropes and settings wrong, essentially recycling them wholesale. Planet With uses them but uses them to subvert your expectations when you think things will go according to the trope but NOPE.
AidanAK47
UGH.
I am close to banning you for that pun.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Everyone is watching planet with....
......

....WITH each other
Masky
I'm watching Planet With!
Amagi
We all know the cliffhanger fight between Takashi and * +revelation of you know what wouldn't have happend before episode 10 in any other anime. This show manages the time perfectly and it doesn't feel rushed.
Amagi
It's exactly how I want a show: you are allowed to use tropes and generic settings but be creative, switch the roles, turn stereotypes upside down and make every episode unique and non-repetitive. It's what this show is doing and it's doing this perfectly.
Amagi
@Aidan: I love it too. I am pretty surprised how few people are watching this considering that it is still shounen'ish and how hyped Bisquithammer is.
Amagi
Ehhh-? Now got summer Marie with 3 quartz in FGO and Martha with 12 a few days ago Aidan was right about the second summer rate up banner.
AidanAK47
Such a shame that nobody seems to be watching Planet With.
AidanAK47
Damn, Planet with pretty much concluded and there is still six episodes left. This episode was damn satisfying and it seems the training wheels are off here..
Anonymous2563449
How do you expect men and women to act when they reach the end of economic growth
Anonymous2563449
The idol industry is just a reflection of the broken social contract/financial repression
K-Off
It'd be interesting if the documentary talks about the effect on men as well, that kind of obsession driven culture can't be healthy.
K-Off
Still remember that idol (was it akb48?) who filmed herself crying on film with a shaved head because she was caught with a boyfriend
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also planning on picking up A drifting life soon, biographical manga about the 60s gekiga manga period.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Going to watch some Japanese documentary tomorrow that goes into wide detail about how terrible their idol industry is and the effect it has on women.
Lenlo
The only thing I really liked out of Ahin was the villain. That dude was quite intimidating, running around shooting himself every time he got tranqed.
AidanAK47
And though I didn't mention it in the review it is rather annoying how the series shafted both Tamamo and Hakunon.
AidanAK47
@K-Off, It was a series that had good ideas, I give it that. But it was a mighty dull watch. Some better protagonist could have helped a bit at least.
K-Off
Speaking of which, I picked up an Astolfo plushie at anime expo and this alone is making me want to play FGO
K-Off
Yea Ajin flows really strangely and there's really no overarching story, plus nobody has much motivation to do anything. But that's also its appeal, for people interested in an insane antagonist who wants nothing but chaos
K-Off
Ah Fate Extra sounds disappointing, I STILL haven't watched any of the series and was hoping it'd be a good entry
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ajin is one of those things I just ended up completely forgetting about, although for pretty much no reason.
K-Off
Also: Ajin is getting pretty freaking crazy with the recent chapters, I love how Sato is so Joker-like and he's actually succeeding at every thing he's doing
K-Off
The manga is fantastic, feels pretty quaint as comedy manga go nowadays. Also the chapters flow really well with its comedic timing, love the pacing
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm actually intending to move on to the manga sometime, as I was using the anime as an introduction/taster for it.
AidanAK47
Yeah I find Grand Blue just isn't working for me like the manga did. I feel like it needed better animation and a better director. I thought the Gintama director would do good but didn't take into account that with such a long running series he's likely accustomed to doing comedy within a small budget.
K-Off
Feels like manga with great comedic timing don't translate very well animated, or maybe it's because I've already read the same joke before the adaptation
K-Off
Woops forgot i wasn't logged in on mobile
Anonymous2559865
So far in the season pretty sad to see Grand Blue not living up to the manga
K-Off
(i also updated my email on my profile, if you need me for anything let me know there)
K-Off
Ahaha nah, its the real McCoy, last time we talked was about the backend server iirc
AidanAK47
...hmmm is this a fake Psgels situation I wonder.
K-Off
Ive been too hooked on Azur Lane lately
K-Off
Hello everyone, feels like its been a while!
Kaiser-Eoghan
Budget really shows in grand blue now, I wasn't really into the first half of this episode, but by the second half it got me laughing again.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Including shots AT Mayuri =)
Kaiser-Eoghan
And yet, somehow I will find a way to someway forgive the show as hard as I can be on it I can never be 100% mad at the series.
Lenlo
And if it cops out with Mayuri's death, I agree. I wont be happy
Lenlo
@Kaiser, I mean, there are OTHER Mayuri shots I could have posted this week
Kaiser-Eoghan
Godammit Kana Hanazawa, just destroy me already OWO;;;
Kaiser-Eoghan
Be sure to skip past the credits in this weeks satsuriku no tenshi as there's a scene after them. Also Btfo Cathy, this was the part in the manga where I was surprised what Rachael and Zack did in this episode.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Posting those shots of best girl looking sad =<.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I'm being cynical about it because I don't want to be overly disappointed is such a cop-out occurred.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And it would probably bother me somewhat if the show decided to cop-out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As much as I got the feels from that final scene with Mayuri and yes, I would, for the sake of drama, wish for it to remain that way. I'm not entirely convinced that the series won't pull a convenient twist to cancel it out, even though now it seems impossible.
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