Posted by psgels on 25 July 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



Perhaps it’s because I’ve watched too much anime, but I found this first of six Break Blade movies to be totally unremarkable. Sure, I guess that the soundtrack is good, (especially considering the huge budget that went into that one), and there are times at which the attention to details is quite good, but apart from that it was just so… generic.

Any potential for the future installments of this series of movies fully depends on how much the creators are going to use the build-up of this movie. Standalone though… I just wouldn’t recommend it. It’s basically just a big collection of cliches. It’s set in a fantasy world in which two big countries are at war. The lead character happens to be friends with the princess and king of one of the countries (so he can feel special and famous without the responsibilities of these jobs), while one of his other childhood friends has become a general of the other country. Oh, and he’s also the only one who can activate the “great awesome mecha of doom”. It’s all got this “been there, done that” feeling.

With so many cliches, you need something to make up for it. Break Blade so far… doesn’t. I understand that it could be holding back some trumps here and there, but it doesn’t make the best first impressions. The mecha battles are just average and unremarkable, while the money shots just come and go without leaving much of an impression. To me, this movie could have used a better direction, with a better build-up and better dynamics between the individual scenes.

The director, Tetsuro Amino has me worried, though. I mean, what is he doing, working on three projects at the same time? There are enough other talented directors out there, so he could have just decided to focus on either Hutch, Break Blade or Shiki. I’m really not looking forward to another Chiaki Kon or Akiyuki Shinbo here…

Storytelling: 7/10 – It sometimes has a good attention to detail, but it also failed to catch my attention.
Characters: 7/10 – Characters have background, but this is all minimal. They’re not bad, but they are completely unremarkable.
Production-Values: 8/10 – For a movie it has quite a few still shots, but it has enough well animated scenes. The soundtrack is recorded by an actual orchestra, but not really used well.
Setting: 7/10 – Too many cliches.

Suggestions:
– Visions of Escaflowne
Tales of Vesperia
Tales of the Abyss

19 Responses

  1. Rockmanshii says:

    haha I knew that you would react like that when you would do your review,the only thing that I thought you would point out and you didn’t is that except some of them most characters are 25+ years old in this.
    thankfully only the beginning is like that, trust me the manga get out of cliches soon.

  2. crazystudyguy says:

    Dam I was hoping this was going to be different but so far your comments are playing true to my fears. Well at least there not not teenagers (above comment) so I’m really glad about that, makes the story a bit more believable and fingers cross that what you said about the manga comes true

  3. Anonymous Heavy Knight says:

    All I got to say for the new folks getting into Break Blade? If the OVA doesn’t satisfy you, go read the manga. Break Blade is a lot like Frank Herbert’s Dune in that it gets much better as the world and the plot / conflict develops. Yes, it uses a lot of traditional J-Culture convention, but it generally executes them well.

    Honestly in my frank opinion, originality is overrated and something of a double-edged sword in the epoch of the 21st Century. If you’re too different, people think you’re crazy, and it takes a while before folks realize you were a genius. Having the ability to know how to use the various formulas out there and create something genuinely entertaining, compared to the hundreds of inane and pretentious IPs out there, is way better any day in my book, and that’s something the creator of Break Blade definitely achieved.

    There’s a lot of interesting themes and issues being tackled here that Star didn’t even mention in his review, e.g. discrimination between people of different statuses, the complexities of relationships, War, your responsibilities and-or obligations as a citizen, Love, etc. I think it’s a disservice to downplay them as cliche, when they are problems that the human race struggles with even today.

    Anyways, give the IP some time, and you all will look back and probably realize Break Blade’s one of the better Techno Fantasy IPs to have come out of Japan in a good while. The Golems here are pretty much on par with Guymelefs from Escaflowne, embodying the same romantic ideals of Knights and Chivalry, except Break Blade spins things around Armored Trooper Votoms-style. Sure, it’s glamorous and empowering to be a Heavy Knight, but you’re guaranteed to meet a messy death. Oh, and the fight choreography just gets better and better, as we go along, so if all the politics, drama, etc., doesn’t get you going, then at least the action might keep you on-board.

    Whoever said just because they don’t have fancy roller dashes, jump jets, flight packs, screen clearing I-Win! Beam Missile Itano Circus spam attacks, etc., that mechs can’t be fun to watch fighting…is full of lies, I tell you. LIES!

    Cordially,

    J.

  4. Westlo says:

    I like how you bring up cliches for this yet never brought up the cliches in Giant Killing which has been done a thousand times in other sport manga/anime let alone American movies.

    Oh right I forgot, cliches don’t matter if you like the show /slaps head

    Even Nuyarihyon no Mago is very generic at first and you haven’t even brought that up.

    “The director, Tetsuro Amino has me worried, though. I mean, what is he doing, working on three projects at the same time?”

    They’re releasing the movies every month, they’re more than likely done with at least 5 of them right now.

  5. psgels psgels says:

    Westlo:
    “They’re releasing the movies every month, they’re more than likely done with at least 5 of them right now.”
    So, this isn’t the case with Shiki and Hutch?

    “Oh right I forgot, cliches don’t matter if you like the show /slaps head”
    Is that really so strange? I mean, it’s like I said in this review: I don’t mind cliches when the rest of the show can make up for it. When this isn’t the case, like with this movie, I’m going to start complaining about them.

  6. 4saken says:

    But psgel, you give the first ep of Gundam Unicorn the Excellent rating while I see that it’s basically the same as the first ep of Gundam Seed. I have to say that Break Blade is at least more creative than Unicorn (first ep wise)

    The mech battle is unimpressive because this is the first time he pilots a mech, he barely moved and could only protect himself by sheer luck. Don’t expect him to go around killing several experienced soldiers in the first ride like in Gundam.

  7. Hamachan says:

    Meh. I read a couple of chapters of Break Blade last year. As a long time reader of fantasy-scifi novels/mangas the plot/characters didn’t grab me. From what I’ve read it’s like a paint by the numbers story. I probably wasn’t it the mood then but reading this review doesn’t really entice me to give it another try.

    Also, Gundam Seed and Gundam Unicorn might share some similarities but at least there’s enough difference for me to enjoy both show on their own. I’ve got to ask, does anyone else watch the Gundam franchise for it’s originality? If it has a great looking Mobile Suit/animation, a likeable protagonist and a decent plot then I’m all for it.

  8. 4saken says:

    What do you mean?
    It’s Gundam, so let’s give it a special treatment?
    That’s what I call biased.

  9. Meep says:

    Hmmm I didn’t think this was so bad. Yeah it’s generic, but at the same time I found it rather enjoyable (the use of magic and the character’s older ages are a plus, and the main character isn’t emo after piloting) I see where you’re coming from, and I hope this reaches higher potential. Looking forward to the sequels~

    Btw, you gave this a 6/10 on MAL? D: I thought it would have been a 7/10 due to your scoring here.

  10. psgels psgels says:

    Don’t try to take my rating system on MAL too seriously. It’s incredibly inconsistent and I still haven’t figured out how to be consistent in it.

  11. mdv says:

    I agree with the meep. It’s the kinda movie where you watch on an HDTV and bump up the volume on a home theater speaker system… lol which i have.

    I have a home theater PC system set up. :D

    Lol it’s like… just chill and watch. Let your mind be free. It may be corny, but it’s entertaining

  12. mdv says:

    well, for me it was. :O

  13. alex says:

    i saw the 2 first episode of the series. It’s funny that i watched all animes posted on animelist. And now, i find that i liked all sorts of animes even with their flaws. Because right now, since I watched everything. I still learn to like even modest rating animes. At least, i can have the chance to watch the beauty of all those combined arts.

    Anyway, all this to say that break blade even if didn’t read the manga, should be interesting not like the 5 stars animes a saw, but still, the caracters are interesting. The princess in trouble is really cute, the main character is interesting to.

    I guess sometime they should think a little more about the logic behind the emotional reactions of the characters. The main characters should have a least be more happy to control the machine because he could control anything live everybody else in is life. I guess it will develop over time in the series :)

  14. alex says:

    live = like sorry hehee too stone and french :)

  15. alex says:

    I just read some others comments of other reviewers.

    This blog rules a lot of anime blog right now, not just for comments from the reviewer that are awesome but i like the simple layout of the site.

    I wish I would have the courage to blog all the show I watch and all episodes.

    Maybe one day :)

    you have a nice job tho

  16. Tan-Tan says:

    I actually disagree with your cliche comment, psgel. In fact, other than TWGOK this is the only time I’ll disagree with you. For one, I think Break Blade has a creative setting. You missed out the part that oil doesn’t exist. Instead, they make use of quartz. It’s the character LACKING the special power too, by the way than the other way around.

    I also like the fact the main has a little brother. That actually caught me by surprise. As for the ring of friends (*COUGH*Legend of the Legendary Heroes*COUGH*), it’s that aspect that’s cliche but I don’t know about you psgel, but it seems you’re mixing up the definition of cliche and convention.

    While Psgel doesn’t recommend Break Blade, I DO. I fell in love with it after watching the first movie. It’s very entertaining. For a war-freak like me, it’s a special treat. I think compared to most series, they have a realistic grasp of war and politics. Most of all, IT’S NOT BORING.

  17. JL says:

    I think you’re just being biased and all. The manga and anime are really good, a rarity nowadays. Judging from a fair perspective, it is a great concept. From the way you say it, it’s as if everything is a cliche. I feel that you are rather confused or misinformed about cliches. There are standards and conventions as other readers have commented that shouldn’t be mixed with cliches.
    Break blade is an epic in the making given the thought and concept mixed in it. I won’t say much but rather I just want to point out that your review or blog on Break blade isn’t fair, for example, you mentioned that the storytelling didn’t catch your attention yet many feel it was rather compelling. Break Blade is greater than what you merit it for. Try to be more open. I’m guessing you’re not a big fan of such genre.

  18. Mononoke says:

    Thanks for the review! At last, someone share the same idea with me. Wherever I checked the comments about Break Blade, they are all talking about how great anime it was. I was about to die off cliches and also waste of 5 hourse to this stuff. If you like to watch mecha go and try Macros series and Escaflowne. That’s all!

    • the one says:

      Wow mononoke how close minded are you! So you havent even seen it and already giving your comments based on the review of someone who misinterprets what cliche means. A lot of series have there cliches especially the gundam series. (I enjoy gundams, just clearing that). This series deserves to be watch except for all those not ito the mecha. GIRGE RULES lol

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@Aidan: When I talked to amagi about Beastars I don't think I ever heard your views on it. Also from what I recall you haven't read Vinland?
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https://youtu.be/S6H1qskbEIg
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I dont expect the CGI to be bad. WIT has experience because of AoT now, and the boat/open ocean can profit from it a lot more than character models.

For Beastars, if its the Houseki no Kuni team, I wouldn't worry until we see a PV
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Full cgi I think for beastars adaptation, although done by the people who did houseki no kuni so there could be exceptions made.
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@Lenlo: I didn't expect them to try and cover his post childhood. They will probably stop at the farm arc. There will be cg, I hope it won't be intrusive.
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Ey Vinland pv is out! Looks good! I cant wait
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@Kaiser: I'm pretty sure Yuki's family issues will be addressed later on, this just wasn't the time for it. So far the show has always followed up on the character arcs it has introduced.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Something that feels very different about huge detailed art aswell on the other end more simpler styles, in comparison to alot of the generic moe style we mostly see now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And while I am on different artstyles, I bloody love Ryoichi ikegami and Suehiro murao also.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Complete different art too, cartoony even.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Years ago I read almost of Yoshihiro's stuff, although I never got around to finishing a drifting life by him, I also read that Mizuki guy manga i mentioned.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've been wondering about this for a bit, is anyone on here familiar with the Gekiga period/wave of manga from the 50s and 60s to very early 70s? Such as stuff the by Yoshihiro Tatsumi and also Shigeru Mizuki's Onward toward noble death?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: I was right in there with them waiting to hear the results.
Anonymous3391737
They took the words I was about to say right out of my mouth.
Anonymous3391737
Late to the party, but man this was a good episode, iffy CG runners aside (though I hope that'll be addressed in the BDs). I'm so glad they were able to qualify.
Lenlo
Hmmm I cant wait to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
This cast has grown on me. Also while I would appreciate followup on Yuki's family, I actually don't mind if the show didn't, because this series manages to say much by saying little.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm glad that even though it showed then in a top ten list, they weren't up the top of it. Its more believable that way. Also who'd of though a race would be so tense?
Animosh
Also happy to see that the twins will get some spotlight next week. Aside from Musa they've had the least development so far, so they can use the attention. I also like that someone's finally raising the question what the point of it all is. If you have no chance of winning, why compete? It's a valid question, and I'm looking forward to hearing Haiji's answer.
Animosh
Haiji's injury was less of an issue than I expected: he even finished as "best of the rest" (excluding the leading group). Looks like it'll keep simmering under the surface for now. The fact that it was highlighted again probably means it is going to play a big role in the story eventually though.
Animosh
Anyhow, you can't always get everything you want, so whatever. It's still a very good adaptation overall, with some of the most impressive animation out there, and with some luck the cuts were just a one time thing and the rest of the season will be consistently well-paced. And if not ... well, the Claw arc is less "deep" anyway, so cuts will be less of an issue there I think.
Animosh
And just to be clear, I also agree that the episode elevated the source material in many ways: the aspect ratio nonsense aside, the episode looked incredible, no question. But my complaint is not with the animation, but with the storytelling, which - although by no means awful - could have been a hell of a lot better.
Animosh
@Anon: I agree the two chapter rule isn't perfect, and when there's a lot of fighting a faster pace is often preferable. So maybe an additional episode would have been too much - again, I don't remember how much was cut exactly. And of course, in the end pacing is a matter of preference. I loved this arc in the manga, and I'm probably more negative about cuts than you guys just because of that.
Anonymous3390450
@animosh Ill always remember this episode and laud it for it was able to accomplish. There are so many things it did to elevate the source material. Everything it covered from the source material was elevated in animation; the only issue was that shit got cut, and it's a bit unfortunate because i think it could have been easily avoided. Like lenlo said: a part of our gripe comes from our manga exp
Anonymous3390450
@animosh as a product of the previous season and episodes leading up to this, but it would have been even better if we got to share the experience mob had in mogami's would. The dread and isolation mob was meant to feel was communicated artfully; but that third element; the experience; that was what was needed to complete the trifecta and cement this episode as THE perfect adaptation.
Anonymous3390450
@animosh influences mob, we are missing one more element that would have completely sealed the deal. By BONES cutting out what they did, they took away from the viewer the EXPERIENCE mob went through. Losing that aspect, watching mob's journey through mogami's illusion, slightly hampers the overall impact his breakdown and his use of his powers against people. Most of the impact is still there
Anonymous3390450
@animosh despite my criticisms, i thought this episode was fucking great. I think the directing captures the dread and haunting oppressiveness mogami's illusions were meant to have on mob quite well. The adaptation communicates well what mob went through and why it broke him. What my criticisms amount to is that while the direction communicates well how mogami's macabre thinking eventually
Anonymous3390450
@Animosh that 2-3 chapters pace is not really a reliable rule, because that standard is completely dependent on how much content is in a particular chapter. The second half of this Mob psycho episode adapted like 3 or 4 chapters without feeling rushed; why? because those chapters the second half of the episode adapted were all action scenes, which when animated, take up less runtime
Animosh
Maybe I've just been spoiled by that other big Bones adaptation, My Hero Academia, which not only has great pacing but even adds high-quality filler to improve on the source material. Compared to that ... this was rather disappointing. But as Lenlo said, the episode did still do a lot of things right, so I didn't hate it or anything. It's just that it could have been much better still.
Animosh
@Anon: maybe that would have been enough (it would certainly have been an improvement). It's been so long since I read the manga that I don't know how much was cut exactly. But in general 2-3 chapters per episode is the pace adaptations should aim for, but these two episodes covered a whopping 8 chapters. That's just too much, especially for an arc where build-up is so important.
Lenlo
I think a longer episode, cut the OP, squeeze out every minute, would be better than a whole nother full episode.

Thing is, I think we are only a bit disappointed because we were manga readers. For anime only, this probably still hit all the right notes. And really, the entire episode is just straight fire animation wise
Anonymous3390290
@Animosh Nah; i don't think giving it 1 more episode would have been the answer, all it would have done is drag things out. What this episode needed to tape into its full potential was to be an extended episode; a 27 min ep that cut both the op and ed. If mediocre shows like re:zero can get 26 min eps commissioned out the wazoo then why can't a great show like mob psycho get that shit?
Animosh
I did still enjoy the episode as a collection of well-animated action set-pieces, but as a story arc just one more episode could have made it so much better imo.
Animosh
To use your example: no, an episode filled with suffering wouldn't have been fun. But now we barely got a glimpse of what Mob went through. The boy went through hell, and he was stuck there for six (!) months. Even so, he decided to forgive Minori, and his positive emotions beat Mogami's negative ones. In the manga that felt like a triumph, here not so much.
Animosh
But as a viewer (and a manga reader who's a fan of this arc), I thought it was somewhat disappointing. Yes, without the cuts the episodes may have been a bit less engaging, but I think that would have been fine all things considered. Build-up episodes are always less fun than the dramatic highlights, but they're necessary to make them land.
Animosh
@Lenlo: I understand why Bones did it this way, and I agree it would have been harder to make each episode engaging, get them to end at good points etc otherwise. It's also very possible they were contracted for a certain number of episodes, and if they want to get to the end of the Claw arc in 12 episodes some short cuts were inevitable.
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