Posted by psgels on 22 August 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews



To Aru Majutsu no Index and Kagaku no Railgun. They’re both two series that I dropped very quickly when they first aired, though for completely different reasons. Railgun to me was genuinely annoying; I really don’t want to watch anything more of that. Index however… yeah. I dropped it because I had no idea what it was trying to be. “You want an interesting setting? Well, we’re too busy with action right now.” “You want action? Well, here are some long dialogues full of exposition.” “You want dialogues? Screw that! Here are some cute girls to annoy you!” It feels like all of those parts tried to cockblock each other.

Still, I have to admit: this series is based on some neat ideas, in which people can either have naturally born powers, or have to learn them as magic. The creators seemed to have put a lot of attention in coming up with interesting scenarios and backgrounds, so in another one of those “why not”-moments I gave this show a second chance. Overall, it’s a series that definitely has its moments, but as a standalone series I wouldn’t recommend it unless the upcoming second season really gets significantly better.

The series consists out of a number of different arcs, often completely unrelated, in which Touma (the lead character) saves a bunch of people (often cute girls). These arcs really vary from surprisingly good to completely pointless, and they can all be pretty much seen as separate entities. The worst for me were the Deep Blood and the Imaginary Number arcs. Both felt too forced, featured the worst characters of the series and felt completely pointless in the end. My personal favourite was the Angel Fall arc, because it’s that arc in which we actually learn the most about the lead character, Touma. I really liked what that arc added to his character.

The main weakness of Index isn’t the fact that all of these arcs are unrelated. In fact, this way the series can neatly show different kinds of aspects in its setting, explore its own magic system and show what its world looks like. No, my main problem with this series is that it’s so caught up in its own exposition that it often forgets its character.

So because of this, half the cast in Index is just a collection of walking plot devices. The creators are just so focused on progressing the story, and explaining the details behind the stories of the different arcs that they often forget the characterization, and half of the scenes that are allocated to fleshing out the characters have no idea how to do this so instead they just focus on the cute girls of the series and have them participate in really annoying antics. Granted though, the scenes that don’t involve action, tension, exposition or any of the cute teenaged girls are well written, and actually quite charming.

This show really does have some very neatly animated action scenes. You can also really see that the creators tried to spice those up to make them more than just a bunch of people zapping their powers at each other until one goes down: the battles here require some crazy tactics, and they really force the lead characters (the good guys, anyway) to think on their feet. I do have a big beef with them, though.

This is another one of those series in which characters can really have extreme powers: there are a ton of people walking around that can kill someone in the blink of a second, and the series itself reminds us of that very often. This brings along an extra layer of suspense of disbelief however, which is something that this series can’t live up to. I mean, it’s great that the series is trying to build up this atmosphere of serious business and all, but when Touma just keeps jumping into certain death situations, only to miraculously survive due to sheer luck that he couldn’t possibly have foreseen, it really destroys the tension a bit. I mean, the sheer amount of ludicrous saves in this series was just too much for my standards.

Apart from that though… it’s entertaining. There were a few episodes in which I really edged to just stop watching this series, but they were overshadowed by the episodes that did manage to keep my attention. I like this show for getting completely crazy at times with its ideas and scenarios, while I dislike it for having too much moe and one-dimensional characters. If the second season can use the build up that this season provided, I can easily see it get better. But it really needs to do something about these characters…

Storytelling: 8/10 – Interesting script, knows how to create tension.
Characters: 6/10 – Too many walking plot devices and annoying teenaged girls.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Very neat animation, especially during the action scenes. Nice soundtrack too.
Setting: 8/10 – Interesting concepts and ideas. Don’t go here for realism, though.

Suggestions:
Betterman
Night Head Genesis
Hunter X Hunter

13 Responses

  1. Anca says:

    I rather liked Index. Well, 82% in your ratings system, so not that far off.

    I liked their endless exposition because it made the whole thing seem more realistic. Powers like that need to be explained a lot to not demand too much suspension of disbelief.

    The way they contrasted magic with science magic is based on attitudes people in the real world really do keep. In fact, it was exactly the way certain corners of the occult community (the corners that take themselves very, very seriously) clash with the easy-going everything-goes PSI types.

    Railgun annoyed me a good deal because it lacked these interesting parts.

    I personally loved the alchemist battle – magic where you shout what should happen and that stuff happens – word based – and you have to get incredibly creative and exact in your phrasing is one of my action kinks.

  2. Scorcher says:

    I loved this show…
    I think you were too unfair with the characters score… I mean, the females are annoying, but I think Touma is a great lead…
    Also the exposition is something they could not avoid, because the setting in the light novels is so complicated that without proper explanation nobody could follow the story…
    As for the second season, I´m guessing its going to be a lot better, If it animates volumes 7 to 14 of the novels…those are great arcs…

  3. Hogart says:

    You’re right. It was too chaotic and a bit caught up in it’s hubris. I think if they dropped the exposition, focused only on the major arcs, and relied more on characters and teamwork than saving-throw plots, this would be a very good series. But at least it tried to not be boring or too insulting, unlike Railgun.

  4. mds says:

    yeah,agree with you,I loved that Russian angel arc :D simply because it’s very funny at the beginning and ended up breathtaking…
    Well, in my opinion the score for setting is a bit higher…since they used so many references and huge attention to details :p

  5. Scorcher says:

    Forgot to say…I don´t think that there are pointless arcs in the show…
    Deep Blood had that awesome fighting scene…where Touma scared the crap out of that alchemist…
    And Imaginary Numbers is important for the rest of the story…(Fuse=Kazakiri, im looking at you)…
    But its like you said, first season was mainly used for building up, but sadly not even with a second season we will have a conclusion, because the plot is huge, there are 21 novels and it keeps going…season one only covered the first 6 volumes, and 2nd season will hopefully cover until volume 14…

  6. Suzuku says:

    Let me start off by saying that Index, as a light novel, is one of my favorite series. It’s very unique in that it takes multiple religious and scientific theories and incorporates them all into a story without seeming half-assed. For example, I’ve never read a story that has used Aleister Crowley, English occultist, as a bases for the story and incorporates his theories into it nearly flawlessly. Crowley’s theory about magicks, the science and art of changing through one’s own will, and the esper’s “Personal Reality” which gives them their powers is just one example of many.

    Now, as an anime, I had some problems with it. As you said, the anime really was very chaotic in that it hopped from action, to long dialog, to fanservice in the span of a couple minuets without allowing us to get a very good feel for the characters. This is in contrast with the novels where many of the conversations give us a better idea of who the characters are and the transitions between exposition, comedy, and action come much more smoothly. Of course, this can be attributed to the fact that the anime had only a limited amount of time to fit 6 volumes worth of content in it. That said, I have a gripe with how the anime staff decided to cut some rather important explanations from the story and other small things that would make understanding where the characters’ abilities come from easier. Since I read the novels it’s no problem for me, but for anime only watchers I’m sure some were confused.

    Those gripes aside, I enjoyed the anime very much. The art and animation was top notch for the most part and the story was still enjoyable overall, despite the cuts in some areas. Season 2, going by the trailer and common sense, will cover up to volume 13. Slight spoilers, but season 2 will have far more involvement in what goes on outside of Academy City and many more characters will be introduced. The concept of Touma saving people (still cute girls) will still be there but it will have more to do with the magic side of the story as opposed to season 1 which was more grounded in the science side, which honestly isn’t as interesting as the magic side.

    Also, most recent novels (17-21) have been truly epic and I don’t want to say too much as to not spoil, but let’s just say things get very hectic and the delicate balance between the magic and science sides finally break. Hell, even before that, things really get truly interesting starting from volume 13 when God’s Right Seat finally gets involved in the story and Accelerator starts becoming active in the underground of Academy City.

  7. AKI says:

    Great! Finally, psgels, you have made a review for Index.

  8. AuroraFlame says:

    Sometimes it seems like they were trying to make the character development fail on purpose, with giving the main character permanent amnesia after just introducing him. Then that alchemist arc… was completely pointless when the motivation of the villain was revealed. And the angel thing…. ugh.

    The quality of this show is way too dependent on how good season 2 is. It was all build-up. They introduced people and concepts but they’re still at square one.

  9. Ichiban Faggot says:

    77.5 for this turd and 72.5 for Geass. Yeah..good joke:|

  10. Solaris says:

    Index has a very complicated scenario to deal with. The war between magic and science is something that need a proper buildup and can’t be taken for good without explanation. Adding explanation is easy on a novel where you haven’t to deal with timescreen at all. As a rather huge amount of explanation hinders the comprehension and linearity of the plot, Index has been divided into arcs focusing on one of the two main sides, magic or science and the explanation is being divided among those. As the readings goes on all of the pieces of this complicated settings go in place, for the showdown when the war between opposite factions will break in. So, whoever is looking for a tieup in the chain of events, you just have to read it all for the meta-plot to gain sense. Moreover hints and infos are being realased little by little, and details you passed on could be developed in later arcs of the story. See spoiler down here*.

    If you just take out explanation you’d gain something similar to railgun. Thus being entertaining, Railgun missed all of that setting that made Index deep and well developed. In Railgun you only del with science side. At least you have a hint of what scientist are tring to do on their side, but the feeling is that Railgun was too much light harted if compared to Index, thanks to a huge portion of the settings being cut down for good!

    Index anime was hindered under the weight of its own setting. All of the explanation segments were miss placed and put in the middel of combat, where they were in the way of action scene fuidity. Really they chose the worst timing to make explanation. Moreover they chose to make up with silly slapstick commedy to tone down drama, but resulted in flatting out chars that are really nice to begin with. It didn’t help that chars are build up in their arc of competence. Kuroko, the annoying and schiecking Mikoto’s kouhai, is nothing more than a side char for fun till volume 8 of the novel. There you read how good of a char she is. Every char, with the exception of Touma, and later of Accelerator, are important for only their arc. Index too is nothing than a fun char unless in the very first arc. The fact she names the all serie is very missleading.

    MEGA SPOILER
    *One of this is Hyouka: She’s introduced in the immaginary number arc and, while that being an apparently bland arc, it reveals one of the main themes of Index. Science and Magic target is the same, that is to create with different means a superior being. And Hyouka’s the first attempt at that. Just wait for Vol 13 and see what i mean. (it hopefully will be included in the 2nd season).
    /SPOILER

  11. jak321 says:

    well it give me great joy to see that so many people like this series … its often under-rated and solaris having read the light novel i know what u mean :D .. also waiting for the god of magic to appear in the anime its gonna be awesome

  12. Solaris says:

    @Jak321. I could only read the novel @ Baka Tsuki, as my japanese isn’t good enough to read them raw :(. So i actually know the facts till about vol 13 and anime season 1.
    I am afraid we’ll have to wait till season 4 to see war breaking in!
    I long to see Railgun arc with the sister before that.

    @Ichiban Faggot. Joke? Could it be cause Geass is your average mecha story with so many good premises wasted in a trainwrek-ish finale compared to Index that has much more complexity and ideas Geas would take 5 season to develop and throw in the toilet after that.

    @Suzuku. Thank you for your review. Crowley’s theory as a basis for index setup is something people didn’t recognize at start and what makes this novel really outstanding.

    Here’s the wiki article about Crowley. Just notice how much terms Index brought from that.

  13. I totally feel you about railgun, that crap was just too annoying, I deleted the file after about 8 minutes of watching the first episode. Personally I think just 98% of anime is just the same ol same old, mixied with full of crap that only is marketable to self hating male otakus (i.e. the male lead always being beat up by women, or being unable to do simple things like have a decent relation ship with a woman. . .you know the whole *oh my god I touched her hand/body/hair/eyes meeting blah blah blah, I must act all shy* bullshit most of tha tjust gets in the way of a good story. . .or rather is put inplace to also distract the viewrs that the story isnt any good by adding *tension* which in normal human interaction, would be rediculous, hell even Planest had this crap and that was a GOOD show!

    Ive pretty much stopped watching anime, except for shows that have a decent story, with normal human interactions and great characters, I swear there are only like 2 shows every other season that come out that have this and last for 26 or more eps.

    I mean its gotten to the point where creators have to do something like kaiba (having abstract designs) to actually make something MATURE because its *cartoony* therefore not all that serious.

    Im just glad that Ive stopped watching anime for the most part Ill only watch like an episode of either one piece or some other show that is good like katanagatari.

    I just have more time to enjoy life with normal human beings, not be *f0rced* to immerse myself in a culture of self hatred that is 99.9% of anime/manga

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*visual style
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@Anon: Yet still a fun film at the same time.
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@Mario: Help I want to kidnap Asirpa =<
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@Anon: I'm probably as surprised as you, at finding someone to talk to about Lupin on here.
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@Anon: And through comparing/contrasting the jigen grave stone and Fujiko mine, with some of the sillier older ones, it shows the Lupin characters are flexible enough to work both in a darker AND sillier context.
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@Anon: Fujiko is precisely how a fanservicey character should work and how built in/essential it is to her haracter, without becoming an irritant.
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@Anon: Its a huge franchise too so I'm often never sure where to go next.
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@Anon: I watched a few episodes of the Italy set lupin show too .
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See how he attempts to seduce me into watching something related to sword art.
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@Lenlo, Oh I know Leskinen. May he find his Japanese Shaman girls one day. But seeing as I know the story I wanna experience it differently.
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@Mario: Its even set in hokkaido, Korean/Japanese director, Japanese cast, Ken Watanabe is in it: https://letterboxd.com/film/unforgiven-2013/
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Also, I love the ED. Really, 2 episodes in, I love S;G all over again.
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@Kaiser: really? They remade Unforgiven in Japanese?
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Like... is good.
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But your missing out on the cult of Leskinen. The engrish is actually one of my favorite parts
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@Lenlo, Meanwhile I am happily waiting for the dub.
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Dangit... I have to wait another week for Steins;Gate 0 now. I cant do this.
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@Mario: The Japanese remake of unforgiven had ainu people in it.
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@Kaiser-Eoghan - Ideally a story should be as long as it needs. But reality seems that a number of episodes is decided before production. And so you either have to stretch or cut material. Kinda like that 300 page manga of Les Miserables, is simply unfeasible translating that book into that few pages.
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Oberstein was a great character.
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I actually feel Aidan can do a good job on it. Sometimes been too exposed to the material may lead to clouded eyes.
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OMO; OBERsteins; Gate =P
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From watching episode 2 of golden kamuy, yeah, the source material definitely is lifting this.
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@Kaiser: Agree with Oberstein. I think antagonists are es important as the mains in fiction and I loved this guy, he's perfect for series like these.
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Galactic heroes was an example of where when watching it, when big death scenes occured, I would make noooooo and shouting noises at the screen while clenching my fist.
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I love characters like Oberstein, shrewd, clever, but done right to where I can believe it, not characters like, say Lelouch .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd be concerned if the new galactic heroes series skimps on the violence, that kind of thing needs to be in there, in most shows/films and shown to be explicit, consequences need to be shown.
Amagi
*about, not with
Amagi
Sadly, most original 2+ cours series I know feel dragged whereas many 1 cours originals could have needed ~3 more episodes. Talking with series that have an actual plot of course.
Amagi
I really like the 13 episodes thingy for originals but I wish there would be more 26 episodes series, especially for adaptions.
Amagi
@Kaiser: I agree. Nothing kills my interest faster than formularic episodes and repetition.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In general I think 50 episodes would be the most I'd watch for an anime, 39 seems ideal.
Amagi
Or worse and the romance drama is the main plot and it's Kiznaiver all over again, while the rest is just flavor to make the romances more forced since they're the MCs are only teens and such. Dunno but I can never bring myself to care about this kind of stuff.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though better 110 episodes of galactic heroes than a long shounen that just repeats itself.
Amagi
Speaking of recent episodes, I unironically thing that FranXX's world (building) is pretty interesting (although I hope those klaxxosaurusses will be more than just random cannon fodder) but I doubt the series will ever get to the main plot again the next time.
Amagi
Same here. It was really the only time I did this. I am usually exhausted by just thinking about marathoning long series. It's the reason why I won't get into FMP for the new series either. LotGH was an exception since I found it easily to watch for some reason.
SuperMario
Man, just image burning through 110 episodes of it and my spirit fades away
Amagi
Watched that whole series ages ago.
Amagi
Just watched the first three Neue These episodes and I surprinsingly liked it. Thought I would hate it due to being an OVA fan, and I still prefer the old designs by far but overall it's pretty good. I think I might even prefer this version of the first battle, but I have to rewatch the old one I guess.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also while I can't remember which episode, Yang picks up a book with the author of the series' name on it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Arslan feels so lightweight by contrast/comparison.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I think, given your knowledge KTtravlos, that a series review of the new galactic heroes season would probably benefit from you writing it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I bring up the music in my earlier comment, because I can understand your reservations regarding the music choice in the remake.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And certainly one of those shows, that going back to the first episode after finishing, gives a strong perspective just on how evolving the series was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*despite me not
Kaiser-Eoghan
Despite not being monarchist , because the characters were human moreso than cartoon characters I couldn't hate on Reinhard.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Travlos: I suppose by the time it got to Julian's arc, I was surprised they were still bothering to fight but the fact that they were essentially the last bastion of their beliefs made it special.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Travlos: Sometimes when I just finish a show, its a case where I HAVE to jump online immediately after and excitedly ramble out an essay on it.
niello
ugh democracy
KTravlos
@Kaiser ultimately LOGH for me was a decisive point in my political life, as I think it made the best defense of democracy in any form I have seen. And it worked partly because the opponent was presented in the best possible incarnation (Rienhard). Yang's continued adherence to democracy, despite recongising its flaws, helped me avoid a personal descent into authoritarian politics.
KTravlos
@Kaiser. I am happy you had a good experience. I watched the prequels a while after the main show and I was happy because it was great getting back to those characters. The prequels were also great in fleshing the setting and the characters. So yes, take your time and a break. That way the prequels will be like visiting a place you liked again after a while.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@KTtravlos: I have some other stuff to get through before watching the galactic heroes prequel though =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
YES according to discord poster I'm not a millenial!
Kaiser-Eoghan
Sorry for overposting. I have always always being an incredibly verbose person.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter; Not that I oppose captilistically made for a buck cinema, it can be entertaining yes, but I set a standard.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: As open as I am to trash cinema, I consider the resident evil films, like the superhero ones, anti-art.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can understand why people don't like Villier, but he did I think work as a device to add extra tension.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel some release at finishing but at the same time sadness at saying goodbye to the show and its characters.
Kaiser-Eoghan
, showing its age.
But for something of this length, it kept itself up far better than most long shows and I feel the length its somewhat justified.

On another note….as corny as the third ending theme is, I got the feels listening to it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But while the first 50 odd episodes were an easy job for me aswell as all of the 4th season and some of the late 3rd season made it difficult for me to pull myself away from it, the dialogue even though often well observed did become difficult to follow at times and somewhere in the middle theres a stretch of episodes, bar some moments that feel a bit of an endurance test and the animation is at
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its attention to detail I felt was at its strongest in the documentary and the series dedication to filling the view in on its world building/fictional history.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I admired the scope, ambition of this series and the battles eventually grew on me and I was surprised by just how visceral the melee combat got which suited me perfectly. At the same time for all the strategy and action, I found myself more in it for the story, characters and intrigue/politicking. Those battles, due in part to their music choices, had an epic feel to them
Kaiser-Eoghan
In the end the characters stood out for me the best were Reinhard, Oberstein (for being essentially the amazing man with the plan), Reuntal, Kircheis and Rubinsky, I warmed up to Julian, Yang and Schenkop. When important deaths occurred, they felt highly dramatic, in four cases emotionally effecting for me .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also, KTtravlos, thank you for pushing me toward watching the original legend of the galactic heroes, my opinion on the series is largely a mixed one, but by the end I felt I’d watched something rewarding and I’m happy its crossed off my list and I should have gotten round to it sooner.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm probably the oldest here, being 32. Which apparently makes me around Yang-wenli's age, which according to someone means I'm middle aged .
Kaiser-Eoghan
To the discord guy who brought it up, its difficult not for me to be political, my father was an activist and is a Marxist , I ended up becoming a contradiction a semi-agnostic, but spiritually inclined/tolerant socialist with internationalist ideology.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Ends in very cliffhanger/abrupt indy way though and the things weakness/how to kill thems too easy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I liked how it explains nothing also and the creature design and how it visual communicates to the audience.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: While I won't say anything, a character death is handled in what I considered a schmaltzy manner. There is a particularly headscratching decision the characters make that you'll either rationalize or hate, but it leads to one of the tenser set pieces later on.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Quiet place has a good idea at its backbone, that they use sign language in the film to communicate and occassional whispers adds to it, it and the silence allows for a mood to be effectively communicated. It does have jump scares, I wasn't annoyed by them, but I never felt the film required them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I read the discord, if you ever need to ask a question relating to film, come to me about it, I will without fail be able to answer 9 times out of 10.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was adequately amused by the first episode of wotaku, but found the male lead funnier, which I'm attributing to him be more deadpan.
Lenlo
We found a convient weekend for everyone
Kaiser-Eoghan
*watching
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would also float the idea of recommendation podcasts every now and then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will listen to the podcast more in full later. But I was surprised after asking/suggesting it on the discord, that it came so soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am thinking of re-watching gasaraki and ai yori aoshi.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Perhaps after a while of watch the anime I will simply jump on to the manga.
Vonter
I watched Resident Evil: Vendetta yesterday. It's incredible dumb but kind of fun. I do wonder if in terms of entertainment are like the best videogame based movies. Since it plays like a videogame, it's based on a videogame and is more or less in line with the tone the series has had for a while.
niello
It's such a shame that Golden Kamuy art direction is such a train wreck.
KTravlos
and for the sake of Clausewitz there is clinical term for what Reinhard did. It is called "defeat in detail". Napoleon was a master of it. Proper way to defeat it , is to order the threatened force to retreat to a point where other allied forces are converging. The enemy will either have to retreat, or fight at a disadvantage. The 1813 and 1814 campaigns against Napoleon are examples of that.
KTravlos
Episode 2 of LOGGH: Der Neue Thesis was much better than the first. The music is still an issue, but Yang was well portrayed. I do think there is lack of the directors in showing the cruelty of war, like the first one did. We will see.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Still need to see his short films and black Peter.
Amagi
@Anon: I already know the manga and enjoy it, think the anime is a good adaption so far. Feels good to see a series about video games that are actually just games and romance without tsunderes, tons of blushing or unworldly naive harem girls.
Anonymous2016456
the anime
Anonymous2016456
how do you guys think of wotakoi?
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Hereditary sounds pretty promising here
Kaiser-Eoghan
Forman's an interesting case, when you look at the huge disconnect from his early films from the 60s and then what he went on to make.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, unfortunately I am not a fan of country music so Nashville didn't appeal to me =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: And before Jack kept playing the same role over and over.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Aside from Courtney Love's presence, Larry Flynt is an excellent film. I love the custom camera tricks Kubrick used in Lyndon , dog day afternoon suceeded for me because it did so much more than being just a bank rob film. I wish Spielberg would return to his pre-90s films .
SuperMario
Cuckoo's Nest reminds me of the great 1975 Oscar Best Picture, which for me was Oscar's greatest line-up. The line-ups for that year were: Cuckoo Nest (winner), Nashville, Barry Landon, Dog Day Afternoon and Jaws
SuperMario
@Kaiser: RIP the man. I've seen 2 of his, Amadeus and Cuckoo Nest. Both great but they were more because of the strength of the source
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Milos forman has died =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
Indeed the character designs in steins; gate have seen changes....shockingly mayuri's chest is larger than Daru's ;)
KTravlos
I can live with that. Interested to see what made you reserved.
SuperMario
@KTravlos: you won't agree with my series review then. I have a lot of reservations on VE
KTravlos
Also I finished Violet Evergarden. This was an exceptional series in my book.
KTravlos
the two characters. Finally the battle soundtrack was simply wrong.

I am going to watch it because it is LOGH. And frankly after watching the new one I felt the fact that the old one was dated technical wise (but not in music). But at least on comparison of first episodes, the old one did a better job at giving depth to Reinhard and Keircheis.
KTravlos
well I watched the first episode of the new LOGH and then watched the first episode of the older version. The update in the art is good..but. If the old one was too talky, this one is too boom boom. I also felt that they did not sue the time well to establish Reihard and Kircheis well. Especially the removal of some lines that were in the first episode of the original, really took away a lot from
SuperMario
@Amagi: I can see your point but what a premise for Golden Kamuy.
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