Posted by psgels on 16 September 2010 with categories: Kuroshitsuji II



Look… just look at this picture. Got it?

In memory of

Ciel Phantomhive

Who died at Aug. 26th, 1889

That would have been the perfect ending here. That was how this episode SHOULD have ended. I mean, the creators wouldn’t be crazy enough to actually try and revive Ciel, right? They’re not going to do something as stupid as negating the entire ending of the first season. They couldn’t, right?

So yeah, we got trolled here; big time. Dear god, reviving is one thing, but get this: in his last moments, Alois forged a contract with Johanna that turns Ciel into a demon. Because he is a demon now, he can’t die, yet his contract with Sebastian is still running, even though there is no way for Sebastian to absorb Ciel’s soul. So yeah, Ciel and Sebastian will actually be able to live together FOR ALL ETERNITY. Bloody Nora, they actually went there. This series actually was entirely meant to realize the wish of the squealing yaoi fangirls to have those two together until doomsday.

I’m a bit bewildered by all of this, especially on how I’m going to write the review for this series. I mean, was this episode bad? It was perfectly told if you ignore the things it tried to tell: everything took its time to let all of the revelations play out, the second half of the episode was well produced in how the creators portrayed Ciel saying goodbye to everyone. I have no problems with that.

Now, whether or not the big twist is bad, here’s the thing: I have seen a ton of bad endings at this point, and this episode really looked like none of them. Usually, the endings that disappoint me are either the ones who lack ambition (as in, they resolve things fine but the way they do it does no justice to the build-up that it has gotten), ones that fail to resolve anything (it really depends on the rest of the series and how those delivered whether I dislike or accept those) or ones that are just too rushed.

This episode was neither. The creators knew exactly what they wanted to do (dammit!), they knew exactly which revelation they wanted to save for when, and they knew exactly how to plan everything out, not just in this episode, but throughout the entire series. I mean, how often did this series troll anyway? It feels like it trolled both the fans of Ciel and Sebastian as well as the fans of the new approach, twice or even more.

I’m really going to have to sort out my thoughts for a bit for the review of this series.
Rating: #^% (Akjsdfh)

22 Responses

  1. chounokoe says:

    Hmm, I honestly expected you to like this episode. Maybe I saw a certain tragedy in it that you did not see, or maybe I’m blinded somehow.

    But that was a bad end no matter how you look at it and no matter how you toss and turn it, it was no happy and for Ciel and Sebastian at all.
    The real Ciel died, just like the card said. He left his emotions and everything behind and is now a demon and Sebastian can’t even put an end to this because of the contract.

    Ciel also left behind all of the characters in a much more cruel fashion than what happened at the end of season 1. He even said to the servants that he did not care for any of them anymore. If they had fulfilled the wish of the fangirls I think they would have chosen a way to let Ciel live and Sebastian be bound for him again (like wishing for an alternate world and just returning to manga continuity).

    Well, just wanted to say this, because I’m honestly a bit surprised at how you understood the ending. But of course nobody can be forced to like something…and hey maybe I’m wrong here ^^°

    • Patty says:

      Yeah.. I agree with you…
      Ciel died. Y.Y and it’s freaking sad.

      The difference between Ciel and Alois, well, at least one of the many differences, is that Alois discovered that Sebastian had nothing to do with his brother’s death and that both Sebastian and Ciel had nothing to do with anything, but that was never important to him. He was just cruel and selfish. He didn’t allow the other to have whatever they want, their lives/deaths as they planned, their dinner… nothing. And maybe that’s just what Claude saw… an impure soul… while Ciel’s soul would do anything whith those who were in his way, but if they were not to blame, they would let live in peace…
      And you can see Ciel is sad when talking to Alois. He knows his destiny and he just want to see Sebastian’s face and reaction.. That’s his only motivation after his real death there… and when he sees.. he’s just a demons who saddens Sebastian. You can see Sebastian’s sad face when Ciels talks about burning the house and memories been worthless.
      It would definetly be perfect if Sebastian had his dinner after all.
      Gosh… So much fighting and cooking Ciel to… the end… be their perfect food frozen forever…

      Well as you can see I’m really a fan of happy endings. But if I follow the idea of “making a pact with the devil always goes bad for one’s side” it’s a moral lesson…
      …but screw that.. I wanted Ciel’s soul inside Sebastian!!! grrr…

  2. psgels psgels says:

    That’s what I’m on the edge about a bit. The more I think about it, the more I indeed end up liking the twist, but what got me was that the creators ended up finding some kind of way to have Ciel and Sebastian together. That’s about the only reason why I’m negative about this episode.

    Still, you have a very good point, yeah. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I like this episode and how it didn’t pull that reset ending.

  3. chounokoe says:

    Okay, I thought as much.
    Maybe it was because I was dreading a ‘reset and return to manga continuity’-ending more than a ‘Ciel and Sebastian together’-ending. Maybe that’s why it was easier for me to like the ending.

    In the end the pairing of Ciel/Sebastian is as much as set in stone by now, so I can live with that. At least their not happy with each other, dancing through the mansion and returning to the happy filler life we saw in episode 2 of this season.

    But I can understand your reason for that first impression a lot better now. I was just a bit surprised when I first read it. And thank you for replying, it’s always nice to see comments being taken seriously.

  4. psgels psgels says:

    Yes, sorry. While I do read every comment that gets posted on the site, I do realize that I don’t reply to a lot of them.

  5. Firechick says:

    “Rating: #^% (Akjsdfh)”

    Wow. This is the first time I’ve seen that rating from you…I’m guessing this means “WTF” or “HORRID!!!”…AWESOME! This is actually kinda refreshing seeing a rating like this from you.

  6. DestinyAlx says:

    never tought of seeing Psgels getting trolled by the same kuroshitsuji. It will be interesting to see how you review it at the end.

  7. lilacflame says:

    Did not see that one coming and if you think like Sebastian that ending is bad. I mean, he spent all that time to get the soul perfect only for someone else to eat it; he took his time reviving Ciel only for the soul to be incomplete; after a whole load of battles Ciel’s soul is finally ready but now Sebastian can’t have it.
    Seriously! If it was me i would be screaming for someone to return my wasted time. If he’s bound to Ciel forever does that mean he can’t even look for another soul?

  8. seductive_even says:

    I want them (Ciel/Sebastian) to be alive!

    If it’s so then both Ciel and Sebastian can eat souls. What is more Ciel can make contracts with human.

    As for Sebastian..pure daemon! he lost his “perfect dinner” ^_^ )) However I think that it’s some kind of revenge. Maybe I’m too cruel but imho it’s all Sebastian’s fault.. he lost Ciel’s soul in the 1 season, he made a f**n’ secret contract with Claude, he lied to Ciel, he didn’t save Ciel from the “soul exchange”!!

  9. Blue says:

    I actually really liked this ending. Like some people above have said, it seemed like the worst of both worlds. To me it seemed that Sebastian was really frustrated that not only can he never eat Ciel’s soul but now he’s contracted into eternal servitude. Plus now Ceil’s revenge is fulfilled all he’s left with is an aimless existence for all eternity. Yeah, Hannah trolled them good. ^^

  10. charcoal says:

    In my impression, even though you could say that this episode is aimed for the yaoi fangirls, I kind of disagree. It is pretty disappointing for yaoi fangirls because in the very end Sebastian states that he is now cursed for eternity. Which shows his unhappiness in having to serve/to be with Ciel for the rest of his…well, for eternity. And I don’t think that is a comment a fangirl would squeal at lol.

  11. keizon says:

    i like the twist in this final episode. at first it seems like a ‘fangirls ending’ where Sebastian and Ciel live ‘happily ever after’. but it is a lose-lose situation. Sebastian is stuck as Ciel’s butler for eternity, while Ciel has to live aimlessly as a demon.

  12. Jimmykitty says:

    I agree with the others who lean to the tragic side. This was a no-winners twist. In fact, it was an all-losers twist. Not even a draw. I liked it a lot.

    Ceil actually got what he wanted in the first season (once he remembered it in the second season). I kept expecting a happier ending, that Ceil would outsmart them all — which would give Sebastian hope in getting the soul he wanted. I am glad the anime went the other direction. It is tragic, which should always be the case when making a deal with the Devil (demon, or whatever you want to call it).

    But in this way the Devil tricked himself. Sebastian *hoped* to kill Ceil before he arose as a Demon, however, he failed. I’m not sure if Sebastian knew about his “last order as a butler” — perhaps that’s what he was trying to prevent. But in the end, he’s now in eternal servitude. It was hard to tell by the tone of his matter-of-fact voice if he was okay with that, or not.

  13. synkronized says:

    I have to say I loved how this ended. Seeing Sebastian getting trolled (hardcore at that) for once, was probably the most refreshing thing of both the Kuroshituji seasons.

    I’m happy for Alois pulling off something shrewd and dying off on a positive note. Despite being a brat, you could at least sympathize with his from the gutter past, unlike the trust-fund baby that is Ciel.

  14. Periscope says:

    I think this was truly a fitting ending. The series played well to the fans – I think this series did what it aimed to do, keep the fans mesmerized, put in a couple of WTF episodes in the beginning to whet out our appetites, and then start the ride at full speed. At the end of it all, Sebastian was portrayed perfectly. He is a demon, his aim is to consume Ciel, and kudos to the makers to blur the line in their relationship: was he helping Ciel due to a genuine growing fondness for the boy? Was Ciel in any way fond of his butler? The reality is that Sebastian, in his Machiavellian way is only dead set in achieving his goal: to obtain Ciels soul at any cost – “I only know the taste of a human soul”. Thank goodness the creators didn’t humanize Sebastian; to take pity, or spare Ciel his fate. One does pity the demon at the end however, (he looked pretty pissed during the whole episode)- cursed to eternal servitude

  15. Kaila says:

    Just out of curiosity. What happens to Sebastian if Ciel dies? like let’s say he’s been killed also by a demon sword?

  16. ann says:

    damn… i’ve been reading review for the last episode like crazy and is still haven’t come to an concluding as to whether i like it or not @___@ i dont like how they made ciel into a demon. i dont know WHY exactly, but the thought of ciel as a demon and living forever… looks wrong in my mind. i think he should have ided and sebastian should have taken his soul. DAMNNN.. WHY DID CLUADE HAVE TO INTERFERE !!?!?!?!? AHHHHHH…

    ok.. honestly im going crazy. i really dont know what i should think about the ending.. i think i need time to digest it all becasue i didnt even want to think about it yesterday when i finished watching the episode ^ ^”””

  17. Fiona says:

    I agree, this is a good ending.

    Also I think the writers were very smart in playing out the whole “once you lost something, you can’t get it back” theory, which is Ciel’s belief. Sebastian lost Ciel’s soul, he tries to get it back throughout the course of the second season, but even after he did, Ciel’s soul is different, and there’s no way Sebastian can have the original soul of Ciel because he can’t take a second revenge on the angel who is already dead. This is just my thought, I don’t know if they actually intended it to be that way or not.

  18. andrea says:

    I fucking hated the ending! I wanted sebastian to kill ciel but no ciel had to go and become a fuckig demon. now he’s going to have to live forever with that little bitch! poor sebastian i feel so bad for him and i’m a fucking yaoi fangirl who loves pairings like those two but i wanted ciel to die so bad i nearly cried when he didn’t.

  19. Azura Ravenhart says:

    *spoiler?*

    I feel that the ending was fine not to mention terribly funny for me. I loved the fact that the twist was so drastic and I enjoy the idea of Sebastian forever being in Ciel’s servitude. I felt that he is a demon and he somewhat deserved it. Though, I also think that they could have left off with the first season and been done with it. I’m glad they didn’t though, because I wouldn’t have been dying from laughter at Sebastian’s predicament. Then again, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

  20. Pepp says:

    Ugh hated this entire second series and the awful ending was just the icing on the cake.
    What was the purpose of the reapers in this season? Griel’s mildly annoying antics were intolerable here. Sebastian and Claude’s behavior read like a jealous catfight; not sexy. And neither Ciel nor Alois were likeable characters. The only character I found myself mildly routing for was Sebastian. I wanted him to kill Ciel so bad. Then for him to be bound to Ciel’s bratty ass for all eternity; awful any way you slice it. And what was with all the contract, rulebreaking nonsense going on here? Why build up this contract and order business to such a great degree only to have the demons regularly break it? If that’s the case then how is Sebastian suddenly bound for all time to this asshole kid? Ultimately Sebastian fulfilled his end of the bargain. He should get to kill ciel.

    I just pretend like the second season never happened.

    • Patty says:

      It’s just a way of saying “daemon’s contracts are tricky” .. don’t do one…
      And the worst part is that Ciel wanted Sebastian to have his soul so bad!!!

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my point is we tend to spend our stupid 20s phase feel like its wasted, but really it does help develop our hobby/sense/wisdom, whatever it is.
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I find myself now that I've grown up wanting to punch kid characters from horror films lol
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About the watching stories with younger female characters...its starting to feel like I shouldn't be or that it doesn't feel appropriate, actually sort of awkward/skeevy.
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True enough. But remember that even Quentin Tarantino had his 20s basically just a movie-clerk, watched movies like a maniac and he made that classic Pulp Fiction when he was like 33
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Looking back It feels dickish that I laughed reading NHK.
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I mean look at Re-life, I mean ow, everyone went through that.
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I think we'll find that stage where we'll get irritated by stories reminding us of our stupid 20s phases eventually just as some teenage focused anime/manga annoyingly remind us of being teens.
Kaiser Eoghan
In terms of anime/manga, much as I'd still see myself liking NHK I could see myself getting more frustrated with the lead character now being in my early 30s.
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In the past year I've been looking at hentai/ecchi imageboards not as often as I used to.
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Judy Delphy and Juliette Binoche have aged surprisingly well...
Ah its less fancying/finding them attractive, moreso taking notice of them.
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I can understand the others but Meryl Streep too? Man, you're aging I can tell
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@Mario: Julianne Moore, Isabelle Huppert, Meryl Sreep, Susan Sarandon, Cate Blanchett.
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@Kaiser: like whom if I may ask?
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But I'm always interested in women issues myself so Mustang just hit me hard
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Its a sign of me aging I guess too. I'm noticing older actresses too now where I wouldn't have in the past.
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Looking forward to Under the Shadow too, also really keen to see how The Bad Batch would turn out to be
SuperMario
Strangely I've become more engaged with teen, coming-of-age films recently (well, Aku no Hana is sort of teen drama as well),but yes, old man's psyche is my thing too
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@Mario: Synecdoche, the passenger, winter light, anomalisa , wild strawberries , la notte for example.
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@Mario: The day is coming where drama centred around twentyboppers won't have the same level of effect on me. Had I seen buffalo 66 5 years ago I would have been all over it. Old man/middle age angst is becoming more my thing.
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@Mario: I'm honestly having a harder time getting into films that focus on young girls/teenagers.
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@Mario: Theres only a few upcoming films left I'm looking forward to, Elle, Valley violence, whispering star and under the shadow.
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@Mario: I appreciate mustang for the issue it deals with and addresses but I felt it predictable and the drama didn't hit harshly enough. It feels like an academy/oscars film.
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Kaiser: remember I mention about watching those 96 Cannes line-ups? I think I will get to watch them soon, since I downloaded all the movies already
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@Kaiser: btw, you hated Mustang? It's also one of my favorite film so far.
SuperMario
but maybe think of it that way will make the manga more entertaining...
SuperMario
You see Aku no Hana as a dark comedy? haha I'm speechless
Kaiser Eoghan
Like you Mario I don't care for heavy infodumping and that took me out of the new world.
Kaiser Eoghan
Bebop had that problem for me in that I saw outlaw star and trigun first.
Kaiser Eoghan
I still feel aku no hana is a guilty pleasure manga, a crazy dark comedy or maybe thats just my humour.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hataraku had me laughing up to episode 7, while Amagi felt stale from the start.
Looking back on Baccano I still like Claire and Russo but the other characters not so much, the main series is enjoyable enough but the extra episodes hold back the score.
I've never watched Habane straight through although I have finished the series. Ghost vs ergo? Ergos final episode wrecked the show.
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I thing Hataraku was a lot more consistent, but Amagi had some standout episodes. For me the OVA, the pirate ship episode and the school episode were great. "Simply put, we have to go lewder" is one of my fav quotes
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How was that by the way? I never bothered to watch Amagi Brilliant Park all the way through because I felt so cynical about it after the first two episodes. Hataraku Mao Sama on the other hand was genuinely refreshing for the first half of the season.
SuperMario
In other news, The Eccentric Family is getting 2nd season. Now I'm filled with joy
SuperMario
Still feel bad to compare an 1-cour series (Baccano) to an 4-cours one. But in this case Baccano would take my cake.
Topgavin
I reckon The Devil is a Part Timer vs Amagi Brilliant Park would be a fun one, and I wouldn't know which would win.
AidanAK47
Baccano vs Durarara might make a good matchup. Baccano is the better one but Durarara does seem to be more popular.
Syndrome
Yeah it is a bit obvious and they dont share much in common anyway. Just that they are two of the most well known anime out there. I enjoyed NGE more than Cowboy Bebop, but I agree on the later beeing overall a better anime.
AidanAK47
Oh look. Berserks Manga is on Haitus again. Muira...just..at this point I ain't even mad. Just disappointed.
SuperMario
Well, new post on Flowers of Evil is out. Come eat it up.
SuperMario
@Syndrome: was thinking about that match-up (NGE vs Cowboy Bebop) but isn't it too obvious? I always intend to pick something that caught you guys off-guard haha
AidanAK47
@Syndrome, no contest. Cowboy Bebop wins outright.
Syndrome
On a serious note, for related anime, I would be curious about something like Ergo Proxy against Ghost in the Shell
Syndrome
Go for NGE vs Cowboy Bebop and watch the world burn
SuperMario
Yeah, I agree it's one of the main factors, but even so From the New World had a higher grade too. But I wouldn't pick Haibane Renmei against From the New World if I didn't think it had a chance to win. Those who loved the former really loved it, while people more appreciate From the New World than actually love it. Well, can't beat the consensus I guess.
Topgavin
I'd say a major reason for that would be the popularity difference. On MAL, Haibane has a following of 110k people, with FTNW having 270k.
SuperMario
I'm personally quite disappointed with the results. Will try harder for a more competitive match-up next time
AidanAK47
@Mario, if you say so. I say by now the victor has been decided.
SuperMario
@Aidan: we don't need to sticky the Versus Show again, as I will put up the Aku no Hana post tomorrow anyway
AidanAK47
Yeah the brightness got a bit much in some places after episode 18.
Topgavin
I thought the brightness was done well in the episode with Rem sitting beside Subaru's bed and her smiling/crying, but yeah this was too much
SuperMario
@anon125687: my thought exactly. While I was watching it I thought to myself that it's too bright!!
Anonymous125687
Why do final episodes overdo the blur effect and fuzzy lighting its literally over dramatic cancer. Just let it end normally ffs
afgm
Well, it's hard, since it doesn't really feel finished, so even if you know it will eventually end well if given a chance, you can't really put your full confidence behind those bets
AidanAK47
Got a bit long winded in that review and yet I feel like I really didn't get across what makes the series so good.
AidanAK47
Well that's the Re:Zero review written up. I will get to work on 91 days next and maybe Prisms Illya maybe after that. Lost all entuasim after they messed up that last episode in Illya. Overall it's been pretty disappointing.
AidanAK47
As for that twist. I think they could work it easily into a first episode. The impact would still be there for people marathoning the thing in the future and it would be a good "Oh Shit!" moment to start the second season. If they jump ahead a bit to a certain moment it would actually make for a great opener.
AidanAK47
I say the only chance of season two not coming would be if White Fox doesn't like money. Considering that the pace which the light novel adaption has sped up from every few months to a release every month I guess that they want to make that second season as badly as we want it. At this pace they could start a second season in maybe a years time. Maybe every half a year depending on cour length.
Syndrome
Also, if season 2 ever come (that would be a surprise if not, and truly annoying), I dont know how they will manage with the "twist", as something this impactful would come way too fast without any kind of setup. Wait and see, I guess.
Syndrome
After seeing the last Re:Zero I couldnt help but spoil myself, and I kind of understand why WhiteFox went with that kind of ending, skipping what would be a giant shtstorm on the internet. Even though, in a sad world where there would be no season 2, Im still a bit disappointed with the ending. Its nice to wrap it up this way but its a stale regarding the plot and there is no food for thought.
SuperMario
@aidan: you sure are fast when it comes to Re:Zero haha. Alrighty, we'll go with that then
AidanAK47
@mario,I am putting up a Re:Zero post. Tommarrow. I will unsticky it for a day and then we can sticky it again.
reaLjustified
@K-Off No worries, it's so messed up. Stay safe.
SuperMario
@Aidan: if you going to post Re:Zero review soon, you can unsticky the Versus Show post, otherwise I will take it down in 2 days
SuperMario
@K-Off: I feel for ya. Glad that there were only minor injuries. I heard a blogger claimed that he did it because of the gay rights. Sound bullsh*t to me
K-Off
Shit ton of manga have gotten updates but I don't feel like talking about them for a while, lost my appetite.
K-Off
@Kaiser Living in NYC all my life I remember 9/11, flight 587 crash in Queens, the Hudson River water landing, and now this.
AidanAK47
So far it seems most of the people calling it disappointing are those who know whats comes after that last scene and were looking forward to how the fanbase reacts to it. But it would have been a pretty terrible as well as evil way to end the series.
Topgavin
Yeah, I thought it gave enough closure for us to be satisfied yet still desperately wanting the next season.
AidanAK47
@Anon120947, I really don't see what's so disappointing about it. I thought it was a pretty solid way to end the series.
Kaiser Eoghan
I think at most the worst thing that happened in my area was two conmen going around and an gangster attack on a nearby hotel.
Kaiser Eoghan
@K-off: Honestly, glad to hear you're safe. And having a bomb go off nearby would make me feel paranoid.
@Anon: I'm waiting, waiting for reviews written after the show ends.
Anonymous120947
Feels like it has been done this way in case of a never happening season 2... to kind of close it.
Anonymous120947
Wow, that last episode of Re:Zero was pure straight disapointment... finishing like this feels is real suffering.
K-Off
Well, we don't know yet. We don't know who did it, if it was connected to the pipe bomb explosion in jersey, etc. But the second device found on 27th street does seem to point the situation towards terrorism.
afgm
Luckily it doesn't seem to be a terror attack
K-Off
Yeah. I was a good 8 blocks away inside a restaurant so I didn't even know until later. It must have been a pretty small bomb since all the injured have apparently already been released from the hospital.
AidanAK47
Damn. Just looked it up. Good thing you weren't at the area when the bomb went off.
K-Off
Fucking hell, transit is so congested I still can't get home. Luckily it seems like there's no fatalities according to the initial reports, there are still a shit ton of people around central for shelter. I didn't hear or feel the explosion at chelsea, and currently I'm at lenox with my bicycle. So congested it looks like I'm going to have to walk my bike a few more miles before I get picked up. L
AidanAK47
Watched The Empire of Corpses. I makes me sad to see a great idea be turned into such a mediocre movie. I think this concept could have been put to much better use but instead it decided to go with the blandest option.
SuperMario
The guy who will direct it is a live-action director who only had Psycho Pass the Movie (not a good one) as an anime director. WTH? Don't know what to think about this new FLCL now
SuperMario
and it will be co-produced by Adult Swim on top of that?
SuperMario
How comes I just noticed this old news that FLCL will get two-seasons sequel...
Masky
And by that I mean "Huh, haven't checked the blog for two days"
Masky
Yay commenting on two days old blog posts
AidanAK47
Finished rewatching Re:Zero and now ready for the finale. Let's see how this goes.
AidanAK47
I will be mourning the now dead hope of a somewhat decent Berserk adaption.
The last few episodes were not bad but purely on the merits of the source material and not the adaption.
SuperMario
@Bam: I'll be mourning indeed.
@Anon 112098: I haven't watched Chef, but it has more to do with me not interested in chef's life whatsoever. Is it good?
Bam
I'm out of town until Sunday evening. The Berserk finale post will hopefully be up early Monday mourning, followed by the overall cour review a bit later in the week.
Anonymous112098
Habe u seen Chef with John Favreau?
AidanAK47
I am quite upset with how Sliver link handled that scene. It was the one scene I wanted done right. Just that one scene...and they screwed it up.
SuperMario
He scored the Prince of Egypt? I didn't know that, but yeah I remember it had a great score. Also "When you believe"
K-Off
Well, a lot of his earlier work is just brilliant. Prince of Egypt in my opinion is his greatest work.
SuperMario
*nothing wrong
SuperMario
Well, Hans Zimmer could do nothing really; but that's a reason why I have a bit of problem with his scores. Everything he made are solid but ultimately sound the same to me.
SuperMario
Agree that the music has been excellent. Not only the soundtrack thou, but the sound editting in general is great (that ringtone during the Great Whale for example).
AidanAK47
@Mario, Understandable. As much as I love this show, I admit that it has elements I am sure could turn off people.
Also I really should have talked about the music in this series more. It really is a phenomenal soundtrack. I hear they were going with a more cinematic approach to it with Hans Zimmer being a primary inspiration.
SuperMario
@Aidan: it has been a fun ride, I'm glad I stick with it till the end; although I'm not as enthusiastic about it as you are. :)
AidanAK47
Re-watching Re:Zero in preparation for the finale. Still is awesome a second time through. In fact the middle part of the series I felt dragged fairs a whole lot better when marathoned though. Noticing a number of things watching the second time. For one Roswell has a really goddamn annoying way of talking. I say I will be giving this on a very favorable review.
Anonymous110962
Hugh Mungus
AidanAK47
@TopGavin, I haven't watched it yet but I hope what you said about the animation isn't too bad because this is where they need to be on top of their game.
Topgavin
So that fate episode was interesting, lotsa stuff happened. Seemed like the animation was worse than usual and my god how could the subs screw up the incantation.
reaLjustified
@Aramus Why would you want to send the picture to your friend? Tell 'em to see it for themselves at the site! lol.
Friend
Most of the time they meant no harm, I think it's always about getting recognition. They quickly take them down after I send them a polite email, and I let them save their ego without smearing them on their page.
afgm
(ok maybe a little fault should go to them lol)
afgm
@Friend: That sucks, but its definitely understandable. People can be pretty thoughtless at times (no fault to them of course).
afgm
tiger mask did make it into the upper quartile though, which is surprising
Friend
@afgm I don't have a large internet presence with my work exactly because I've had situations with theft on Pinterest. For work, I just carry USBs with my portfolio pieces in them :/
Friend
@Aramus Heya, thanks for the inquiry. Unfortunately the fell image won't be available openly unless for commercial purposes, but otherwise feel free to contact me in my business email! :)
afgm
ah you know what? I read the title Time Bokan 24 and thought it had 24 votes x)
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