Posted by psgels on 5 November 2010 with categories: Anime Reviews




Uninhabited Planet Survive. Now, if that isn’t a descriptive title, then I don’t know anymore. I do want to warn those who are planning to check it out, though: it is not a series that aims to be the most realistic. Some of the things that the kids here end up building and pulling off just stretch the suspense of disbelief. Not to mention that during the months (perhaps even year) that they spend on that deserted planet, their hair never goes off-model, and their clothes magically repair themselves. I know a lot of other anime do that and all, but with such a premise it really sticks out.

Having said that though, I am very impressed with this series, and the incredible amounts of challenges it puts in front of its characters to overcome. They may be kids, but damn: they really work hard in order to be able to survive; hardly anything is handed to them on a silver platter. Every day they need to find food and take care of themselves, they have to build everything, from tools to shelters from scratch. A lot of this series really is just these eight characters, trying to keep living on this strange and unknown planet. This show has 52 episodes, and this length really makes it into one heck of an engaging series.

So yeah, they’re kids, all of around fourteen years old. They start out pretty annoying and one-sided; especially Howard was specifically designed to get on your nerves. They really do grow on you, though. Throughout the series they are well explored and developed, and especially the bond that forms between them ends up as very memorable. The series spends plenty of time developing themes as leadership, sacrifices and family to really make this a well rounded cast (it really makes use of these 52 episodes to let everything change very naturally). The part that impressed me the most was the surprisingly mature looks on blame and forgiveness.

The main problems with this series lie in the way that it’s a children’s adventure. I personally like this genre a lot, but it has A TON of pitfalls that are very easy to hit, and this series unfortunately didn’t manage to avoid all of them. It’s not the fact that this series is childish: really, for a show of its kind it has plenty of mature moments. The thing is however that near the end it tries to be too epic, resulting into a ton of pointless and cheesy Deus ex Machina that could have been totally avoided by a much more mellow ending. The first episode also is probably the worst episode of the entire series, in which the creators for no reason put the characters’ lives in danger, before anything had even happened yet.

These cheesy episodes are a relatively small part of the total airtime of this series, but they’re a bit inconveniently placed, right at the beginning and end of the series. Apart from that though, whenever this series just focuses on the cast trying to survive, learn about each other and the planet they’re on, I really enjoyed it, and this just gets better and better as the show goes on.

You can really see that this is from the same creators as the Secret of the Cerulean Sand: both do end up stretching your suspense of disbelief, and try to be a bit too epic, yet they’re very engaging adventures. Secret of the Cerulean Sand has a much faster pacing, while Uninhabited Planet Survive has a much better cast of characters and feels much more natural in its pacing.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Wonderfully paced and played out, really giving the cast ample time on the deserted planet. The finale is riddled with Deus ex Machina, though.
Characters: 9/10 – Start annoying, develop wonderfully. Great themes between them.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Simple, but do their job. The soundtrack has some great tracks.
Setting: 9/10 – Tries to be a bit too epic for its story near the end, but it still is a very imaginative world that the characters ended up in. Lots of neat science fiction as well.

Suggestions:
The Mysterious Cities of Gold
The Secret of Cerulean Sand
Mahou Shoujotai

32 Responses

  1. CaptainChoC says:

    I’m glad you watched and reviewed this ^^
    I watched it a few years ago and I was wondering whether you would like it or not : now i have the answer :)
    I’m glad you liked it.
    I was a bit afraid when I started this series but i’m happy I watched it until the end :)

  2. Anca says:

    Did you notice how it’s basically divided in four 13 episode arcs? The first and the third are awesome (settling in and the boat ride) and the second and last pile up the bad stuff so hard. The second, winter, had Alien Kid’s non-character development and Kaoru’s badly thought out extra dramatic backstory.

    I do think it was pretty realistic in the first quarter and mostly realistic in the third quarter, though. In the beginning they had to create everything from scratch, starting from fire, and the way they made everything didn’t pull too hard on the disbelief-meter. The shower was really ingenious.

    It’s a great series :D I wrote a lot on it when I watched it ( http://myanimelist.net/blog/Kiraly , first thing there) and I usually don’t care enough about a series to do so.

  3. Moonhawk says:

    I watched this series about two years ago or so and I really liked it.
    It started of a bit slow and I only kept watching it because I had nothing else to do but after the first few episodes it reallystarted to grow on me.
    Especially the character interactions and their individual development was really awesome!
    Esecially as all of their personal problems and reactions were rather understandable and I liked that this series decided to reallycope with those problems because they HAD to keep together as a group in order to survive. And thus everyone had to learn to work together, not to let oneself being taken over byfear or greed.

    The final episodes really were a bit too much but all in all I really liked that series and never regretted watching it.

  4. karry says:

    “85/100”

    As if i expected anything else. Do you even know other numbers ?

  5. Meep says:

    I watched 3 episodes in and dropped this series years ago, not because I didn’t really like it..just because of its length. I just wasn’t really up to it, but of course you always motivate me to pick these kinds of shows back up after you give them a good score~ I’ll try it again later~:3

    On a side note, I’m on episode 8 of Strange Dawn, and I’m in love with the chibis. x3 But the two girls are a bit boring.. I’ll catch up with the subs later (episode 10), to see what’s going on then.

  6. Souther says:

    I watched this on TV and liked it at the time, more than a couple of years ago, but would probably give it a lower score. Not sure if by a little or by a lot, that would depend on the specifics.

  7. evolstar says:

    I watched this show two months ago and I was looking forward to your review for it. I loved this anime, and while I agree with you on the ending, I thought the previous episodes more than made up for it. I especially enjoyed the character development. I definitely recommend it.

  8. Gottis says:

    Wow, you finally watched/reviewed this gem! *_* I’m so glad. ♥ Yeah, the ending is a bit too much over the top and too much Deus ex Machina, and I really think Howard’s character could have been developed even more, but all in all, it’s a solid, lovely show.

  9. Sywen says:

    finally someone that agrees with me that this show is really watchable. i have been ridiculed when suggesting this show ;).

  10. Eric You says:

    in another spin off of uninhabited planet survivors this one takes place about 70 years after this Luna finished Terra forming or making the earth possible for humans to live in again after many colonies were made on other planets throughout space. Luna now has her grandchildren living on a newly earth which was abandoned during the 21st century and in 22nd century people would live in space colonies on many formerly desolate planets. one of Luna’s grandchildren named Lilly is the new main female protagonist. a robot named Bantam serves as Lilly’s pet and also as her adopted mother due to her parents died from an unknown cause.

  11. Eric You says:

    Sharla was a very famous writer until she retired and now her son Shane goes to school with Lilly. Menori Visconti has a been part of the parliament in space for a long time her nephew Montgomery Visconti is the new student body president of Venn Academy of planet Edens a newly discovered planet capable of supporting life. Venn Academy also now is famous for having lots of powerful people who were part of Terra forming this planet including Luna,bell, Kaoru, and Shingo themselves also landed on this planet.

  12. Eric You says:

    Howard’s son Howard Junior also goes to Venn Academy on planet Edens now it also has many aliens and robots to staff the school as teachers and some as students including some from planet Survive. Bell’s daughter belle also goes to this school and she has a personality similar to how Menori Visconti and Howard senior used to act she is vice president of Venn Academy and Montgomery Visconti’s girlfriend and right hand girl.

  13. Eric You says:

    Shingo has an apprentice who also goes to Venn Academy his name is Bassets. Kaoru’s son Michel is just like his father and a bit of a lone wolf at first until he became friends with the other students. a kid named Louisa is from planet survive and a relative to Adam. Louisa’s middle name is porter after Porte an old mechanic who helped Luna and the others for a short time before dying of a space sickness.

  14. Eric You says:

    Brian Stallone is the new main antagonist of this series and he is Howard senior’s insane talent manager who persuades the original gang of Luna, Chako, Kaoru, Sharla, Menori Visconti, Howard, Bell, and Shingo to take a interview and they supposed to make a documentary film about their first adventures together. he is later shown to be a con artist as he illegally steals ideas from others and make them his own. he also makes a false trip to a distant resort planet for the original human team to access planet survive which only had alien people, monstrous plants, animals, trees, lakes, islands, rivers, and cities. he also invites their family to join them together.

  15. Eric You says:

    Brian Stallone also has many criminals he hires to do his dirty work including a cyborg and two escaped prisoners. he also has been given nanobots in his blood to activate his own artificial intelligence that can control the climate of planets. he names the program Reapers to take control of multiple space colonies and planets so that he becomes a powerful and wealthy member of parliament and get revenge from the original team and their children. he also likes playing games and forcibly make them part of a reality show where they each have survive on another desolate planet. the reapers program also creates a powerful gravity storm just like what happened when original gang were supposed to go on a field trip to learn about planetary settlements.

  16. Eric You says:

    Brian Stallone has a very sad past where he was orphaned at age four and lived all by himself just like Luna as his parents were murdered by criminals. he promised to get revenge for his parents deaths and also was bullied a lot when he was younger and eventually dropped out of school. he later has a rivalry with Howard Senior to become a great actor like him. he was fired for taking his acting skills to the extreme and kidnapped actors to make short films that put many actors in danger. he also has planned to join a space pilot academy but his grades were below average. he later turned into a psychopathic criminal who only desires power, revenge, wealth, fame, and steal things from people.

  17. Eric You says:

    Brian Stallone has a very sad past where he was orphaned at age four and lived all by himself just like Luna as his parents were murdered by criminals. he promised to get revenge for his parents deaths and also was bullied a lot when he was younger and eventually dropped out of school.

    he later has a rivalry with Howard Senior to become a great actor like him. he was fired for taking his acting skills to the extreme and kidnapped actors to make short films that put many actors in danger. he also has planned to join a space pilot academy but his grades were below average. he later turned into a psychopathic criminal who only desires power, revenge, wealth, fame, and steal things from people.

  18. Eric You says:

    later the Reapers goes haywire and its is more evil and insane than Brain Stallone and the survive program on planet survive. this malfunctioning program want to exterminate all life in this other uninhabited planet like survive did before than spread itself to kill inhabitants of other space colonies and control thousands of space colonies throughout the galaxy. the name of this spin off is uninhabited planet survive 2 Reapers’s revenge.

  19. Eric You says:

    but their is also a new helpful ally in the form of a benevolent and wise artificial intelligence also installed years ago by another ancient alien civilization called Angel. this one helps the original gang and the new survivors their children to defeat the reapers program and restore the natural balance of this other new uninhabited planet.

  20. Eric You says:

    then they can return on their spaceship back to the New Edens colony back on the Terra formed Earth.

  21. Eric You says:

    Adam from planet Survive also comes to help and he is about 30 years old by his planet’s timeline and is shown to also be a planetary settlement worker like his parents. he is is also very smart and knows many things on how to handle surviving in harsh conditions. Adam, Louisa, Luna, Montgomery, Belle, and Lilly both are chosen to be the leaders of the team. Chako and Bantam are shown to be rivals and at first but later get along as friends. Chako is also now upgraded to have new skills and abilities to assist the team together with Bantam. Shin go and Bassets help out with inventing useful things for the team. Kaoru, Shane, Bell, Howard Junior, Menori Visconti, and Sharla all have different tasks to perform. Michel also is quite reliable knowing how to hunt, fish, make fires, gathers water, and he is shown to like writing down in his diary and carry’s a handy backpack wherever he goes like Luna.

  22. Eric You says:

    Adam is the main male character and leads the men and Luna is the one in charge of the girls. later they combine their efforts to survive and go back home.

  23. Eric You says:

    Brian Stallone also likes capturing and hunting animals which he shares with Howard Senior and Howard Junior plus Howard senior’s father is mentioned a lot and so is Porte, Louis, Far Low, Pague, and Luna’s dad who is now Lilly’s great grand father.

  24. Eric You says:

    Adam’s parents and his relatives are also mentioned or the Native Survivors as their species is called now.

  25. Eric You says:

    here the adults are about 65 or older with some younger adults. the children are mostly teenagers just like their parents were before when they crashed into planet survive.

  26. Eric You says:

    here another similarity is that Howard Jr screams and says the word papa when he is scared just like Howard Sr. Howard senior also inherited the Howard Corporation from his father and is also an important member of the space parliament.

  27. Eric You says:

    the main adults look similar to their children expect they are taller, have facial hair,are a bit stronger than their kids, have the same personalities, and they each have a task to perform to survive and go back home.

  28. Eric You says:

    when the male adults and female adults join together the kids also follow and make Adam and Luna the newest leaders of their team after a while.

  29. Eric You says:

    the spin off also involves more fan service like moments like the characters are naked, wear revealing clothes, bathing suits, or relax in hot springs with towels to cover themselves. there is also more comedy, action, romance, adventure, science fiction elements are more prevalent including references to time travel and clones also being developed.

  30. Eric You says:

    this story also involves a gravity storm that goes wrong but is actually caused by Brian Stallone the first main antagonist character who created a gravity storm creating device. he is also a bit of a scientist who loves inventing things and selling them to people. the spin off also begins at the gravity storm where the main characters again land on an seemingly uninhibited planet with giant alien animals and monsters plus monstrous deadly plants on an island. they later fix the reapers program and they eventually finds a fleet of spaceships to take them back home.

  31. Eric You says:

    there is also a bit more blood, guts, and gore as animals are killed for food or when the main characters are injured. but later they heal these injuries heal quickly.

  32. Eric You says:

    when the main characters all go back to the Terra formed colony back on earth they give the uninhibited planet the name the Good Angel.

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Vonter
@Anon2140150 - I do. Though Shounen do have the issue of being derivative in certain aspects like power scales and several doing the FMA Brotherhood climax (of what I've watched). Also they're made to be endless. It can be intimidating jumping to one that has several seasons.
Anonymous2140150
Does everyone here don't like shonen anime?
Amagi
Really, if there is one piece of information (aside from otome maybe) that makes me ignore a series forever it's a LN about a LN author or illustrator. The selfinert wish fulfillment couldn't be more obvious.
Amagi
Another LN greenlit for an anime production and the synopsis starts with "* is a light novel illustrator and..".
Amagi
@KTravlos: I don't know why modern anime hate curly- and/or wild hair so much. The old hair style gave Reinhard a more royal look, whereas he looks like a normal highschool boy now. Not that I am complaining about the anime as a whole. Also, I like some of the new designs.
KTravlos
and a part of me things it is indeed the hair. It comes to low, giving Reinhard a slovenly, lazy feel. When Yang feels more energetic you know there was a mistake.
KTravlos
and yes, this Reinhard fares poorly in comparison to the OVA one. He is dull. I need more Yang :p
KTravlos
ai vay vay. The Castrop Rebellion remains waste of time. And this time it was worse. The older depiction was tacky but at least it showed Kircheis ability in a logical manner. This time I had no idea what the hell happened. It felt cheap.

The rest of the episode was ok. Not completely sold on all the renditions of imp. admirals though I still love the uniforms.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*those
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hearing these , I find myself much more tolerant of anime voice acting even if the dub might only be okay.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its actually less of a sync issue, as I'm talking about 60s dubs , alot of people think the voices in old anime English dubs from the 90s are dated, but the old sixties kungfu and western dubs are shocking, far worse.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't mind sometimes satirical dubbing like on tiger lily , dialectics break bricks and kung pow however.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And those can be difficult to acquire sometimes in Italian or Chinese.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Live action films, this is especially annoying sometimes because I love Spaghetti westerns and Chinese martial arts films and old Italian cop thrillers.
Anonymous2137430
@Kaiser-Eoghan Are you referring to foreign animated films of foreign live action films because dubbing live action is a different beast as I'm sure you're aware. The idiosyncratic nature of watching moves and facial expressions not properly match voices really pulls the viewer out of the experience
SuperWooper
LoGH is airing a special next week because of scheduling delays, so that's one less thing to do.
AidanAK47
Well to those whom it might concern, expect my posts to be later than usual this week. Work is hell at the moment.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have to say, this is probably a bit hypocritical, but while I enjoy dubs of anime I really really can't stand dubs of foreign films.
Lenlo
Simo Hayha would make a pretty crazy Archer.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine a fate strange fake adaptation will materialize eventually.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But everyone seems to want that Finnish sniper as a Fate servant .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Still no Mao, still mad.
Kaiser-Eoghan
....I have lost track of the historical characters in the fate lineup.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, to expand on that point the following historical figures are now female: Nero Claudius, Leonardo da Vinci, Frankenstein's Monster, Xuanzang, Jing Ke, Quetzalcoatl, Minamoto no Yoshitsune, Miyamoto Musashi, Okita Souji and many more to come.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I find it's an enjoyable watch though flawed. If you can get past some odd fanservice around the first ten episodes then I say it's worth watching.
Anonymous2133468
So i was thinking if i start watching, darling in the franxx, is worth it? or is just another 6/10 anime?
Lenlo
God damnit. Why Nasu. Just why.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, that ain't even Lewd.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In all seriousness its ridiculous, the Japanese will make a cute/moe girl out of anything.
AidanAK47
....Should I also mention that Francis Drake is a big boobed pirate queen?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Posting lewd images on a respectable chatbox.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, But none of these characters are in the anime adaptions. Well besides Jack and Saber.
Lenlo
Aidan, all this conversation did was prove that my decision to only ever watch the Ufotable adaptions was the correct decision.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, you can blame Extella for the Attlia the Hun thing. I wasn't too fond of it myself. Also should mention Attila is female as well.
https://pm1.narvii.com/6414/528599445b739909c02993cfdbfc9f277d088cf2_hq.jpg
AidanAK47
Also Masky I will be the first to admit to the ridiculous aspects of the Fate Franchise but do take note that you are commenting on something you know literally nothing about. Which is the very definition of ignorance and is quite annoying. Fate/Zero nails the themes it's going for. So go watch Fate/Zero, come back and apologize.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Give it time. Genghis is getting in there eventually with Grand Order. We just had Anastasia and Salieri introduced after all. And it's not as if this story introduces Servants willy nilly, they need actual story purpose. Genghis Khan wouldn't have fit the Narrative that Fate/Zero was going for.
Lenlo
Wait Attila is an Alien and Edison is a Lion? God damnit Fate. Why are you doing this to me. I was already annoyed at your treatment of Musashi
Masky
(aliens existing in the show is good example of that missing on themes part xP)
Masky
*most successful conqueror
Masky
Honestly was just amused most conqueror of all time not being featured in the show :D But wait, whats this about aliens?
AidanAK47
Anyway the important thing to take into account is that in the Fate universe, King Arthur is a woman, Attila the Hun is an Alien, Thomas Edison is a lion and Jack the Ripper is a little girl in a dominatrix outfit. Any questions?
AidanAK47
And while you don't need to watch something to be given divine right to comment on ideas or themes, it does leave you ignorant of how that show handles those ideas and themes.
AidanAK47
As for the Historical Alexander, he wasn't given the title of King of Couquerors. Fate/Zeros interpretation of him was. As generally accurate Fates interpretation of Servents history can be, they can make changes to suit the narrative.
AidanAK47
In that Regard Alexander was doing the conquest thing before Ghengus did. Ghengus likely has some other title. Hell he may only have the title because public consciousness was is more familiar with Alexander than Ghengus.
AidanAK47
Yeah, looking it up seems the King Title lost quite a lot of meaning in the Nasuverse. Though the King Title is rather flimsy. I mean Arthur is the King of Knights cause of the Knights of the round table. Gil is king of heroes because his tale was the first Heroic myth.
Lenlo
I think Alexander was just the first one they thought of, and they couldnt retroactively give it to someone else.

That said, Broskander deserves it <3
Masky
(And no, you don't need to watch something to be given divine right to comment on ideas or themes of it.)
Masky
(just to note in case I need to note, I do tend to do at least cursory research when I make comments on stuff I don't watch)
Masky
That first part is semantics as Fate gives title "King" to historical figures who weren't kings already :D Also, you can make that argument about historical Alexander the Great? Since that seriously sounds like kind of weak reason.
AidanAK47
Also sees Rider as deserving of title of "King of Conquerors" because that which he strives to conquer most is not lands or material wealth, but the hearts of people, the toughest conquest that can be undertaken by anyone.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Ghengis Khan wasn't a king. He was a Khan.
Lenlo
Ghengis is always a Rider in my mind.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But in all seriousness, Ghengis would be an appropriate beserker servant.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: I know, it feels so wrong I'm still mad I can't summon Karl Marx or Stalin.
Masky
So wait, Fate series is about historical figures with super powers, but "King of Conquerors" title isn't given to Ghengis Khan? :D Seriously? Thats just so wrong
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't feel any point in finishing it, it feels like something that I'd just randomly drop , not because its a bad show, but because I got my fill of it.
AidanAK47
I am actually going to drop blogging it.
AidanAK47
@Sash, indeed. I have been watching it but not blogging it for the last few episodes because it just hasn't givne me anything to say. I don't think it's a bad show but I have pointed out the flaws and strengths of it already so there is truly nothing more to say on it.
Sash
I think wotakoi is starting to feel repetitive..
Kaiser-Eoghan
You are now aware Shana and Batman Ninja Harelequinn are both voiced by Rie kugimiya.
Lenlo
I did. It was... It was a thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Did you end up watching Batman ninja by the way?
Lenlo
Music is great, yeah. When the music is on point, everything goes up. Everytime the sync the fight/punches to the music I just get hyped. Like the rotating shot with Aragaki or the first fight in episode 1.
Lenlo
Ill do my best to be clearer in the future on that front. Yeah, I dont mind twists like this. Makes the inevitable Mikio fight, narratively, even better.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel the music does alot of the lifting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh, so that was it.
Lenlo
Sorry if I never made that clear.
Lenlo
I would rather have fewer, amazing, fights than a lot of low-quality fights. This is a one cour show, the more meaning/impact they can give each fight the better.

Like Aragaki, narratively, was great. Loved it. Its just in animation/choreography that it falls flat.
Lenlo
Im disappointed with the animation of the fights. Narratively, I think they are quite good.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*disappointed with the fights in past episodes
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Pretty much what I said I thought of the episode. Although I was surprised how took the episodes ending, I expected you to see it as a slap in the face after being disappointed with the fights.
Lenlo
Also, @Kaiser, I thought Megalo Box did something unique this episode. I wasn't expecting Joe to *not* fight. And the Mikio/Yukiko proxy war is an interesting character motivation. Im betting Yukiko will get Joe a full citizenship, effectively getting her on his side.
Lenlo
I wish I was physically capable of watching Megalo Box without thinking of Hajime no Ippo. I really do. But everytime I watch it, it makes me want to watch Ippo again to.
Anonymous2120908
I watched some more of the Chimera family chinese anime. (Wasn't aware it was monthly released). And geez, I like the concept, the background art is very pretty and contrasts with settings that have become tired in other anime. Yet sadly the animation and script are WEAK. I haven't grasped the quality of what's expected of these types of production but I want to believe, they're trying.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Not much in the way of action in megalobox this week, but I did like the focus on Yukkiko getting a small character moment and then the big moment at episodes end .
AidanAK47
@Anon, That's some lazy ass trolling buddy. Should have stopped before the hashtags.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm even sort of looking forward to supposedly less respectable stuff like Goblin slayer and happy sugar life.
Vonter
Also E3 is almost here. And I can't wait. I think Nintendo will have a good show considering they're revealing the new Smash with a tournament. There's rumors of the new game by Retro Studios (Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong) and maybe they'll reveal something about how Pokemon will be on the Switch.
Vonter
Also there's always the chance of something new being discovered. Not everything needs expectations behind. Sometimes great things come out of nowhere.
Kaiser-Eoghan
So yes, there are some at least decent shows coming out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Muh Baki, Muh Bananna fish, muh made in abyss season 2, muh Vinland.
Anonymous2119906
The rest of this year looks like shit for anime and 2019 doesn't look great either #fuckmoe #makeanimegreatagain
Anonymous2119214
@Kaiser yeah it happened in half the amount of eps this time around for steins gate 0; which i expected considering there's a lot of ground to cover
Anonymous2119106
@Supermario Something like Fate or the LOTR films are a different case. I get where you're coming from about your preference, but I'm arguing that if a large story is going to be split into 3 films, it helps that the 3 films feel cleanly cut. Infinity war, even though we know there's a second part to the story, feels like it has that cohesive narrative structure with a beginning, middle, and end
Anonymous2119106
@Super Mario yea but the marvel movies are a different situation so i don't think the comparison is as appropriate. Marvel movies are "episodic" in nature rather than a continuous narrative. The films are largely isolated stories that are happening in a similar universe that only happen to "congeal" narratively because of a few overarching details shared between films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I remember when the original series suddenly shifted and got going and it was a really depressing episode.
Lenlo
Oh baby. The storm has finally come in Steins;Gate. Let the true suffering commence
SuperMario
@anon2118276: that's why I don't like LoTR trilogy. It's still a whole body chopped up in 3 parts, despite how clean the cut is. Whereas for me it works better if it was like a branch in a tree. The Marvel movies (despite my disinterest on those) are a good example of this.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I did feel some of this weeks steins gate felt fillery, I do like see these characters interact and given the episodes conclusion, this episode acted as a calm before the storm.
Lenlo
Ill agree with you on King Kong. As for the Ralph Bakshi LotR, I have. I am still to this day impressed by the overlay of 2D art onto real/overexposed footage. It makes for shockingly fluid animation in places and has its own distinct style
Anonymous2118208
@Lenlo - Have you watched the old Ralph Bakshi adaptation of the first two books? It's uneven, but it's interesting comparing and contrasting certain decisions. As good as Peter Jackson is, I feel he makes very longwinded films, I like his version of King Kong a lot, but it is too long.
Anonymous2118276
@supermario i disagree; the point is that even though the LOTH films have cliffhanger endings, they still feel like fils. they have a defined first second and third act with well paced tension and release throughout them. They follow a storytelling macrostructure necessary for films to feel like cohesive narratives even if they are to end on a cliffhanger
Lenlo
I quite liked the individual LOTR movie just fyi
Vonter
Marvel surprisingly has kept their movies simple enough, that while you might miss details nowadays, you can tell what's happening.
Vonter
Another bad case is like with Assassin's Creed, which like Lost, just tried to tease a lot of things, then it grew tired of trying to piece them together and let the last games work more standalone, with little hints of a larger lore.
Vonter
Metroid does both, it has a standalone story and a hint to what a sequel might bring. Though that hint rarely matters by the time the new game is released.
Vonter
@SuperMario - Some videogames trilogies also do that. Gears of War and God of War had good standalone beginnings but by the second game they put cliffhanging endings. Kingdom Hearts does that and I expect 3 to also do it. Megaman Legends and Half Life had incomplete stories, which might be the worse case in regards to trying to make a continuous story.
SuperMario
It ruins the appetite
SuperMario
I actually think Lord of the Rings' trilogy is a bad example to follow. These films are meant to be viewed as a whole, so each film doesn't hold much as an individual story. I just can't digest films that have "to be continued" sign at the end. Imagine having a first course meal and then have to wait for few days for second course
Kaiser-Eoghan
On the current topic, I would be well for the production of a long running, ambitious ova series.
Anonymous2116425
then again, i don't take too much issue with these films feeling like movie-sized eps...the wait just sucks is all
Anonymous2116425
clearly the films need each other to tell the whole story, yet they can be taken for what they are in isolation as well
Anonymous2116425
I don't mind the trilogy trend at all; like Aidan said, when everything is said and done, all the films will be available to watch. I just think a stronger attempt should be made to make them feel like complete films. Something like the lord of the rings trilogy is a great example of how to do this
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am in full confidence that neither I nor Miura will survive to the end of berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course maybe they won't have a future , think about it that way, then they'd never see it, life has that weird way of being unpredictable like that =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
You can always rewatch them just before watching the one after.
AidanAK47
Of course not. But that's the thing. The wait is only a temporary problem. Anyone in the future will have all movies ready to view.
SuperMario
So it's best to wait for another 2 years to watch Heaven's Feel? Hell NOT
AidanAK47
When all the movies come out though you can basically barrel through it like a TV series.
SuperMario
Dangit, it's me Mario
Anonymous2115918
I still don't know if I like this trilogy trend. We've had a fair bun h of those in recent years (Berserk Golden Age, Madoka, even Kizumonogatari). I guess doing it that way, they'd make much more profits, and we have higher production values, but the wait is way too long and I don't think it works as movie-format
Kaiser-Eoghan
One of the very rare times where self-awareness works.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can be nice and say of course Ryan Reynolds+ violence, comic was funnier.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: But I'm sure if you think it over, the first deadpool was trapped in origin story mode, as an advantage, the sequel, is probably free of that.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Deadpool 2 had John Wicks director, which at the least means something in terms of action direction.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: There was a whole run of deadpool issues called Cable and deadpool, which I suppose that pairing together gets the best out of the character.
AidanAK47
Seen Deadpool 2 tonight and I have difficultly deciding if it's better or worse than Deadpool 1. Still it's quite fun and I enjoyed it.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I feel somewhat similar in regards to Franxx. When this series finishes I won't be singing high praises for it. Yet I do feel that it's worth watching.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, Now I get ya. Yeah I understand that. I might even feel the same if I didn't already know the story from the VN.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, The second film seems to be in cinema this year but we won't get it until it hits blu-ray.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Travlos: As I expected, I am disappointed that they have held back . And you might just be right about Castrollop/Caligula/Nero, when I originally attempted to watch the show years ago, that was the episode I stopped on.
KTravlos
Yang really is stealing the show this time. But I wanted the "Alcohol is mankind's oldest friend" rant. I need it.
KTravlos
my expectation is that they will take this to the Battle of Armistar, and then the films will cover the dual civil wars etc.
KTravlos
...CASTROP REBELLION! Why the hell sacrifice an episode to the most useless and bad part of the original! I hated that episode. Well let us see if they can give it a better twist this time around.
KTravlos
The Iserlohn arc at LGOGH:NT was ok. I liked how they presented the preparations. I like the new Murai face. The music was quite good. But they did tone the violence. I expected Walter to stab the imperial officer in the neck. They have toned down the violence a lot. And I missed Seeckts "Long live the Empire" death. That said it was not bad, and I think in general it was good adaption. But....
Anonymous2115268
for example, I think Darling in the franxx is pretty average, but that's not because i think it doesn't have cool shit in it or things that make it appealing; I just find that what the show tries to achieve is not that stupendous or worth lauding with praise. As a result, the flaws stick out that much more to me
Anonymous2115268
@Lenlo and that's pretty much how i felt. Everything is subject to criticism; hell i criticize my most favorite things in the world because i know they're not perfect. I evaluate art and media on whether what it achieves overshadows the flaws and to what degree. Which i think is the best way to approach criticism
Lenlo
I want to repeat though, Heavens Feel wasn't bad. I know some people take any criticism to mean I hated it, but I actually quite enjoyed it. I just think ill appreciate/enjoy it more once the other 2 movies are also out.
Lenlo
@Anon, you nailed it. I couldnt describe it, but what you said /feels/ right.

And Aidan, I loved Lindsay Ellis's videos on the whole Hobbit debacle. A shame, cause the original Lord of the Rings is a landmark in film for me.
Amagi
@Aidan: Do we know if the next HF movie will be finished this year?
Amagi
I love how and how often they say "Fujimi no Sugimoto" in Golden Kamuy. It's pretty hype for some reason, especially when it's said by his enemies.
Anonymous2114206
yea. heaven's feel is nothing like the situation with peter jackson's hobbit; this story needs this many movies and that large runtime. The thing with these heavens feel films that is probably bothering lenlo is that they feel like very long episodes and that particularly the first film felt like a giant prologue rather than a film with a beginning, middle, and end
AidanAK47
And just to make it clear, Heavens Feel needs at least three movies to cover the entire story. It's too big for one movie.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I ain't unhappy about it though. Sucks that I need to wait so long for each movie but there is higher production values as a result. Though in regards to the Hobbit I recommend watching Lindseys Eillis videos on it. As it not only talks about how it screwed the Hobbit but also how the movies screwed New Zealand.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I could never immerse myself in Tolkienistic world building.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Man, the hobbit, lord of the rings and that shit king kong film, he sold out so much , this was the man who gave me Heavenly creatures , Braindead and Feebles.
Lenlo
It is very beautiful indeed. And Aidan, that Hobbit metaphor made me weep for you. I hated what happened to the Hobbit
Anonymous2112805
other than that; HF is a very beautiful looking film; ufotable has improved with their digital compositions...holy crap
Anonymous2112805
heaven's feel seems to be embracing its more horrific elements. Aside from that, watching this film made me realize how much i prefer rin over the rest of the girls; kinda wish we got to spend a bit more time understanding Sakura's psyche in the film
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: This was part of some film fest thing, ended up missing big fish Begonia though, that Chinese animated thing =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: they'd invited him to introduce the flick.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Had this really unexpected run in, in my nearest arthouse cinema, seeing some film about the Soviet space program , I bump into this eastern European guy, assume he's an audience member, awkwardly say something in Russian to him, turns out he's the Russian federation ambassador to Ireland.
AidanAK47
It's sort of the hobbit situation where they chopped one book into three. Expect here we aren't getting extra fluff to pad things out. Well there are extra scenes but they are actually relevant.
Point is that in it's orignal form there are no stopping points here were you need to wait a year to continue. It was a straight story from start to finish.
AidanAK47
Well Fate is essentially the tutorial section that introduces most of the concepts and whatnot. But even then some of the things here are explained later in Heaven's Feel. Cause yeah, not only is the Fate/Stay Night VN not supposed to be split up into three seperate things, the routes aren't supposed to be split into movies either.
Lenlo
Im only familiar with the UBW route, cause Ufotable
Lenlo
I see.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, In a way there is. Heaven's Feel was originally meant to be experience after the Fate and UBW routes of the VN. That the thing Fate/Stay Night has struggled with. It's not meant to be split up into three like this. It's originally supposed to be three parts of a whole. Each route complementing another.
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