Posted by psgels on 18 January 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews




It’s amazing to think that even in the early days of Bones, they already managed to gather a ridiculous amount of talent. I mean, they immediately showed how good they are with animating down to earth fight scenes with Angelic Layer, they got to do the Escaflowne movie, which had some fantastic animation, and not to mention Cowboy Bebop’s movie (of which I’ve heard many good movies). Then they came with RahXephon and really cemented themselves as a unique production company.

First and foremost, RahXephon is an example of the heights that anime can attain when they make full use of of their creative liberties. For something that aired nine years ago, it just has absolutely fantastic ideas within its graphics. The mecha design is exquisite, and unlike any other series I’ve seen. The use of CG is brilliant, especially for its time. The cleanup animation may leave a lot to be desired, but this show more than makes up for it with its gorgeous artwork and animation. The scenes in this series are also really well directed: this show is full of ideas, from the small details to large plot twist.

Now, as for the story itself though, you’re definitely going to like a bit of a mind-screw once in a while if you want to be able to enjoy this series. In particular, this is in no way a series that tries to explain everything that’s going on through it’s airtime: it leaves a lot unmentioned, and it especially refrains from mentioning exactly why everything is happening in this series. Instead, it just leaves this up to the viewers to make their own interpretations. I personally really like these kinds of series, but if you don’t then prepare to go “wtf” quite a few times throughout the series’ airtime because even for my standards this show ended up leaving a bunch of crucial unanswered questions behind.

Now, one thing that annoyed me a bit is that the cast of characters in this series is a bit of a mixed bag. It can be very good, and the acting is mostly rock solid, and the backgrounds of the characters are overall pretty interesting, but at the same time this show also spends quite a bit of its time on teenaged angst, unfortunately to the point where it takes up too much of the storyline and just goes on for too long. Characters refuse to talk to each other for strange reasons, and various romantic relationships take ages to get from A to B due to superficial padding.

Overall though, while this isn’t a show to watch for its cast, it still has a lot to like here, and I’m impressed what the people from Bones pulled off here. And to be honest, I had a really difficult time deciding whether to give it a rating of 85 or of 87,5, because even nine years after it aired it still is unique. Unfortunately, I do have to admit that it had some parts that were annoying. Nevertheless, it did have got the kind of mindset that I really like, where it put more focus on being interesting than on being flawless.

Storytelling: 9/10 – A lot of subtle details in the storytelling, the pacing is slow, the story is vague on purpose and yet packs some great and interesting scenarios.
Characters: 8/10 – Too much teenaged angst and characters who make strange actions, but the rest of the cast is solid enough to make up for it.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Unique graphics for a TV-series. Brilliant use of CG, especially for its time.
Setting: 8/10 – Inspired by Evangelion, but packs more than enough great ideas and details of its own. Could have been more solid, though.

Suggestions:
– Neon Genesis Evangelion
Argento Soma
Darker than Black

43 Responses

  1. RollingCamel says:

    Not exactly the same sort of mecha but how is it in comparison with Last Exile?

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Rollingcamel: to be honest I have no idea, because I’ve yet to see Last Exile.

  3. gandalf8 says:

    @RollingCamel: I think that psgels hasn’t watched Rahxephon yet, but it is on his to-watch list. And I didn’t recall Last Exile having any mecha in it.

    On to the review then. I do agree to a certain extent with your review. My main beef was also with the characters, specifically Ayato and all his angsting. I really felt they stretched it a bit too long portraying his indecisiveness and his mood swings.

    As for the story, even now I still don’t think that I’ve grasped it fully yet. This series is really one of those that needs to be watched once, take a break and let you digest it a bit, then watch it a second time.

    Also, I really suggest watching the movie. Although the movie had a few differences compared to the tv series, I felt that the movie explained the main plot points better, and I understood more of the main story.

    Overall, I would say that this is definitely one of the most intriguing anime that I’ve watched, where you really need to switch on your brain while watching if you want to fully enjoy it.

  4. Meep says:

    For some reason, I really couldn’t get into this one. I’ve had the boxset for years and only managed to watch halfway; now it’s been so long that I have to re-watch it. =P I saw someone mention Last Exile though…no, it’s not mecha, but it’s quite amazing, and it was my favorite anime for a long time. Gorgeous airship battles and interesting characters except that Claus might come off as a little boring at first. xD

  5. Da5id says:

    He posted a review of a show he didn’t watch?

  6. RollingCamel says:

    @gandalf8: I take mecha with a more general view so it covers electromechanical, mechanical and bio machines. The Guild machines were mecha too.

    “I think that psgels hasn’t watched Rahxephon yet”
    Huh?!

  7. gandalf8 says:

    Oops. I meant he hadn’t watch Last Exile yet. But it seems hes already answered that.

  8. Ransom says:

    RahXephon will have a special place in my favorite anime series of all time :)

    I don’t pay too much atention to characters unless it’s a commedy or some type of drama but I certainly enjoy stories and RahXephon had a good story to tell.

  9. Sarynn says:

    To those who didn’t quite grasp what was going on, just check out this link:
    http://www.kenoki.com/nko/faqs.html

    It will explain the backstory of RahXephon where we normally had to guess and fill-in-the-gaps ourselves.

    Of course, if you prefer having your own personal interpretation, ignore that link. :P It was great for me though, I was like “Oooh… that does make sense… WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST SAY SO?? Still, cool story.” Knowing this backstory made my RahXephon rewatch last week even more fun.

  10. Frost says:

    I dropped this halfway through, not a fan of mindfuck and yeah, too much angst (just like Evangelion…)

    Ill take the classic Gundam franchise over “experimental mechas” anyday :P

  11. Watcherzero says:

    The music stays with me, surprised you didnt mention how excellent it was (what with sound being an element of the plot too).

    It is a mind fuck, it does leave unanswered questions and it does have that kind of ending where you yell at the charachters they should have done something differently, however its an amazing tale. Also this isnt called the Evangelion clone for nothing, if you like Evangelion or religious allegory but wished it had higher production values this is the series for you.

  12. Cerrian says:

    I hope you watched it past the credits of the last episodes cause there was a nice scene to conclude the series with.

    As someone else mentioned earlier, you should watch the movie since it retells the story from Haruka’s point of view and greatly develops the relationship between her and Ayato. It is one of the better tv series –> movie conversions that I’ve seen.

    As for Last Exile, you’ve already been reviewing some great classics of late…Maison Ikkoku, Cowboy Bebop, Witch Hunter Robin…might as well add Last Exile to the list.

  13. Puran says:

    So, now that you’ve seen this, are you getting a Rahxephon vibe from the paintings in Star Driver?

  14. Ransom says:

    I agree with Puran! I think I mentioned that in a comment from one of your Star Driver posts.

  15. Somnium says:

    I actually just finished the series, I thought it was well done. The teenagers’ attitudes wore on me, especially since I watched it over the course of just a few days, but all and all I thought it was good. The series uses a a lot of symbolism, which I did like. One scene that really stands out was in the final episode, I won’t go into much detail, but two characters were in a subway station. Another thing that I loved was the emphasis on music, I’m a huge Tolkien fan and I saw an important similarity to a section of The Silmarillion.

    As for Last Exile, the two don’t really compare well. Rahxephon is a heavy drama, while Last Exile’s world is bright and beautiful, not nearly as oppressive as the setting from Rahxephon. Last Exile is more of steampunk styled world with these awesome flying ships. A big part of its plot revolves around the world itself, not the flying ships. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but as I don’t think I wouldn’t compare the two series as they have many differences.

  16. Animeguigas says:

    Ah RahXephon.I really liked this show when i watched the 1st time. But at the 2nd time i was just like Sarynn “Oooh… that does make sense… WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST SAY SO?? Still, cool story”, then i started to love this (my favorite mecha anime, and i’ve seen virtually ALL mecha animes out there).

    RahXephon is the only anime i enjoyed much more the 2nd time than the 1st time, mainly because i managed to understand many things that i missed the 1st time i watched (i already rewatched this show 4 times, hell yeah RahXephon).

    Unfortunately this anime will be forever doomed as a clone of EVA (its kinda alike, but for me Rah is superior to EVA; Ayato humiliates whiny Shinji and the end of RahXephon is 1000 times better than EVA’s end) but yeah, this anime is definetely not for everyone, the plot is thick and the lack of good action (the battles are lacksture, don’t watch RahXephon expecting great fights, you ‘ll be disappointed), fanservice, and a straightfoward story (the show will provide the pieces of the story, its up to the viewer to piece them together, so you have to use your brain constantly to understand WTF is going on) will push away many casual watchers.

    I love this anime because almost everything that happens on RahXephon has a purpose, its not like other “mindfuck animes” that makes a bunch of questions without providing us the necessary information for us to drawn our own conclusions.

    And i reccomend (specially you Psgels) to enter at the link Sarynn provided; the information there will clarify many questions that the show didn’t “answered in a clear way” for us viewers.

  17. Julius says:

    Psgels said: “even for my standards this show ended up leaving a bunch of crucial unanswered questions behind.” I disagree. This show answered, at least for me, most of the questions left behind. If you rewatch RahXephon i am preety sure you will agree with my point of view. Just a few questions weren’t ansewed. You’ll see what i am talking about when you visit the site Sarynn provided us.
    The link: http://www.kenoki.com/nko/faqs.html

  18. Hades says:

    NGE is good, but RahXephon is fantastic.

  19. Vanny says:

    Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile.

    I preferred it over Rahxephon (I love them both) but Last Exile’s genre is steam punk, not mecha.
    Beautiful anime and story.

  20. sato says:

    Please watch Last Exile and Kurau now!

  21. jzar says:

    It really was a great show and one of the few I have a box set of. Seeing it here and being reviewed makes me want to go watch it again.

    It really was so much better the EVA but it did look to be inspired by it. So yes many will see it as a clone but as others mention RahXephon is really a stand out story and the art is nothing but awesome.

  22. Chris says:

    Has it really been nine years? Jeez, you’re making me feel old.

  23. Uzir says:

    I always wonder why people said rahxephon is copy of NGE? Other than plot of protagonist change the world,Rahxephon is so much better.For me, it got better design,plot,character development and personality. It just a little bit hard to understand the whole story since it got a complex world and character relationship.
    Need to watch it twice to understand it.

    • Quiddity says:

      Those that call it a copy of NGE for the most part have an ignorance of their mecha anime history. RahXephon is heavily inspired by old Sunrise mecha anime (ex. Brave Raideen), similar to how Evangelion was heavily inspired by old Sunrise mecha anime (Ideon, Gundam, etc…). Because Bones was made up largely of people from Sunrise, it makes total sense.

  24. Westlo says:

    “It’s amazing to think that even in the early days of Bones, they already managed to gather a ridiculous amount of talent. ”

    They really didn’t gather that “talent”, more like Sunrise’s “talented” people left and formed Bones.

  25. RollingCamel says:

    I haven’t seen RahXephon but from the description and art they looked somewhat similar. Mecha or not it doesn’t matter plus in the end someone is piloting something no matter how sophisticated it is.

    On another note, I was ranting before about 3D CG in anime, Last Exile shut me up.

  26. Pax says:

    Most people drop this series because they say it’s a bad Evangelion clone and so on, actually from what information I was able to find RahXephon borrows a lot more from Raideen and Megazone 23, when I say that it borrows I don’t mean it in a bad way, after all even Evangelion borrowed a lot from other anime too. I did not finish RahXephon, watched about 20 episodes a few years ago, I definitely can say I found it to be more enjoyable than Evangelion, I liked the ost better and do I even need to compare Shinji with Ayato?

  27. Gabriel says:

    Okaaaaay! this will be in my watch list this weekend. I’m going to have an anime marathon this weekend?

    http://answers.jpn.com/questions/38/just-finished-my-first-set-of-anime-marathon-can-you-recommend-another-good-one-that-i-can-start-on

    any recommends? like same genre with death note, code gease or something like that?

  28. AKI says:

    “Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile”

    I agree. Last Exile is way much better than RahXephon. And yeah, there ain’t any mecha on Last Exile. Just flying ships and airplanes!

  29. Watcherzero says:

    Well the guild ships are transformable mecha, but its not really a mecha series.

  30. Will says:

    I heard that the show was somehow a carbon copy of Evangelion, how true or false is this statement?

  31. psgels psgels says:

    Will: it’s definitely not a carbon copy. It’s merely inspired by it, in the same way that Evangelion was inspired by the giant robot series. Both have enough of ideas of their own.

  32. Will says:

    That’s good to know. I’ve been watching lots of series with little or not originality whatsoever lately. I think I’ll pick up RahXephon.

  33. AKI says:

    NGE inspired a lot of anime like RahXephon and Gasaraki, which brings to me to question if you have already watched it (Gasaraki)?

  34. B says:

    Yo Gabriel, I confirm that you should have a look at Last Exile …. I will post a note to your “anime marathon” thread

    Any other suggestions?

  35. psgels psgels says:

    AKI: yup, I watched Gasaraki, and liked it even more than Rahxephon.

  36. DangerMouse says:

    “Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile.

    I preferred it over Rahxephon (I love them both) but Last Exile’s genre is steam punk, not mecha.
    Beautiful anime and story.”

    Agreed Vanny, Last Exile is one of my favorite anime of all time. :)

    As sato said Last Exile and Kurau (another really good Bones show) should definitely be watched :)

    Great review of RahXephon, really impressive show and I loved the way they put all their ideas together.

  37. Tan-Tan says:

    Just finished this. Really awesome anime I’d recommend to anyone. It kind of got boring in the second half. That is if you’re sick of all the hold-up to the real plot haha. But the sidestories add to the solidness of the show. Just now a fan of some characters.

  38. Redtail says:

    After 18 episodes I can not watch this anymore. It’s ridiculous.

    Protagonists reason to fight: “Because I can.” Protagonists second reason to fight: “Because I’m here.”

    Are you kidding me? Am I watching a bad translation? And all the unanswered questions, seriously now. THIS THING HAS NO PLOT. IT JUST TUMBLES DOWN THE STAIRS.

  39. Redtail says:

    After 18 episodes I can not watch this anymore. It’s ridiculous.

    Protagonists reason to fight: “Because I can.” Protagonists second reason to fight: “Because I’m here.”

    Are you kidding me? Am I watching a bad translation? And all the unanswered questions, seriously now. THIS THING HAS NO PLOT. IT JUST TUMBLES DOWN THE STAIRS.

  40. Hades says:

    @Redtail

    “And all the unanswered questions, seriously now.”
    You didn’t even had the decency to finish the show so why are you complaining about “unanswered questions”? Maybe if you finish the whole thing you might be able to fill in the blanks like I did. Finish the anime before bashing it dude.

  41. Digi says:

    To be honest , This anime is better than Last Exile and very similar to NGE , Ill still rate it among my top 20 or top 15 , Its a really good show, and it seriously impressed me .
    Star Driver sucks -_- and Last Exile doesnt match up to this, also , Last exile is more like an action adventure show, they really dont compare

  42. garrat Cooper says:

    I’ve got to say that Rahxephon was a big disappointment to me. I’m an avid Eva fan and seeing this was a slog. I wanted gto quit so many times and eve3n though the ending is great I honestly feel like half of this show could have been cut out and it would have had greater impact on me. A lot of the supporting cast seemed superflous and by the time things got real I was nearly disinterested primarily through the lack of tension.

    I like how people say this is better than Eva but this explains less than Eva did, Ayato angts more than Shinji while having fewer problems than him. Also isn’t the main couple incestuous? All of which I’ve seen leveled at Eva at one point or another. But this anime gets a pass on that. Oh well I will say that the final minute of this show puts nearly everything in context.

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Theres going to be another euphonium movie next year.
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Anonymous3175137
It boils down to a female-targeted version of those moe shows that I don't care about all that much. Just replace the cute girls with hot boys.
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Compared to Katsugeki, where it tried to sell the series as something more than just a mobile adaptation and tried to court non-fans, here I got exactly what I expected; something safe and predictable, and catering exclusively to fans. So I got nothing out of it.
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Is there some sort of moe equivalent for male characters? Because this show probably counts as one. otoh, my feelings towards it are like most CGDCT anime: indifference.
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I think the oddest thing I did regarding anime this year was how I sat through both season of Touken Ranbu Hanamaru (including the one that aired earlier this winter), and didn't claw my eyes out when it's basically an unfortunate mix of a mobile game adaptation and a CBDCT show mixed in with some action segments to show that it's not just a pure estrogen-fest.
Animosh
I should also note that I don't relate to her in every way. I understand her difficulties with falling in love, but for me the problem is more that my view on love is too negative, and as a result I'm hesitant about taking the "leap of faith" that any relationship requires. Love is messy, and may well get you hurt, so it's easier to observe things from a distance, like Maki for example.
Animosh
Oh Yuu is definitely frustrating to watch. Her idealized conception of love prevents her from seeing what is obvious to everyone watching: that she's slowly developing feelings for Touko. And when those feelings evidently turn into love, instead of seeing them for what they are, she's in denial and insists that her feelings aren't special enough to be called "love". It's frustrating.
SuperMario
Then again, I can't really say why Bloom into You works for me now, but kept me in a distance in their first few episodes. It's slow-burn, and when you think back to it, not a lot has been happening. But I feel they haven't made any wrong step yet
SuperMario
Can't say I relate to Yuu thou. She's the kind of character that in real life I would find really frustrated, and I know many of my friends behave that way. That just to further demonstrates how real these characters can be. Even the side characters, Sayaka and the lesbian adult couple work well for me.
SuperMario
@Aminosh: it took awhile for me to fully embrace Bloom into You (I say about episode 5,6) but I agree it's getting very solid now. it reminds me of Scums Wish as well, mainly because how twisted romance can be
Animosh
I'm also worried it won't end in a satisfying way, since the manga is still ongoing. But otherwise I quite like it. It has its problems, but if you go into it with the right expectations (slow pacing, complex and flawed characters that make for an unusual love story, with more focus on the characters' psychological issues than their sexuality) there's a lot to enjoy.
Animosh
My only major complaint is that its characters can feel rather artificial sometimes. Touko in particular is a victim of this. She's such a weird bundle of complexes that she can be hard to relate to. Maybe it'll be better explained later on, but the whole idea of falling in love with another person because you think she'll be incapable of reciprocating it ... it's weird.
Animosh
I particularly like Yuu. I can empathize with her difficulties with falling in love, and I like her arc of slowly "blooming into" liking another person. It feels natural and earned. And like in SSSS.Gridman, the direction is surprisingly strong, and as a result it mostly nails its key moments (the river confrontation, the shed starting shot, etc).
Animosh
I finally caught up with Bloom into You, and it really surpassed my expectations. It kind of reminds me of Scum's Wish, with how flawed its characters are, and how selfish and unreasonable they can be. But like in Scum's Wish, instead of condemning the characters for their flaws, we're given the background to understand them, and they're not used for forced melodrama but sympathetically explored.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Are the Tezuka Buddha movies really that bad? I'll probably try the manga soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Also, it'd be cool if we could get long ova adaptations again.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd be happy to get more anime set outside of Japan. I also wouldn't mind seeing some anime based off western material.
Lenlo
Gotta say, I wasnt expecting that from Banana Fish this week. I hope its not a fake out, because if it isnt this ending could be great. I love sad endings
Kaiser-Eoghan
Bunny-girl made me watch a horrible idol segment. Then I forgave it because the end of the episode was well executed melodrama.
Sash
I just recently watched Made in Abyss.... and i cried real hard. I was worried that this story was going down the loli route at first... but how this show frightened me... and how it pulled at my heartstrings at the end.
Sash
I just recently watched Made in Abyss.... and i cried real hard. I was worried that this story was going down the loli route at first... but how this show frightened me... and how it pulled at my heartstrings at the end.
Animosh
But regardless of how things turn out, it was definitely a powerful moment, and I'm really happy things are finally heating up again. Looks like the demon/leopard/whatever will be unleashed next episode.
Animosh
Welp, I guess something really did happen this week in Banana Fish. I kind of expect it to be a fake-out though. Chii mentioned there will be an epilogue, and it'd be strange to do so without our main couple intact. We haven't really gotten a confirmation of how Ash and Eiji see their relationship either. So I don't think the ship (or rather, one of its passengers) has sunk just yet.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Well, one of them is essentially the first two episodes of the show as one long episode. So i would say that makes sense.
Anonymous3169068
After all, I don't think they know anything about the series until I show them these. They already know that I bought the novels though.
Anonymous3169068
Meanwhile, I'm planning on showing my family, the two LoGH films, My Conquest is a Sea of Stars and Overture to a New War during our Christmas vacation. Is this a good jumping on point?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Come on torrent, 90% done, then you decide to slow down. This is conspiracy I say.
Amagi
Same here
SuperMario
Thanks, will download it when I get home.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Early sub for 720p version of liz and bluebird is on nyaatorrents, they say they are doing a 1080p version tomorrow.
SuperMario
It’s Christmas season soon so I hope I can watch some older gems during that period
SuperMario
I, on the other hand, decide to get off my movie marathon for now to spend time WATCHING MORE ANIME.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've had that issue on other blogs, getting the moderation awaiting message, I got it here in the past too.
SuperMario
Woah, I will read that story soon when I have free time. Thanks
SuperMario
Lemme fix this, Amagi
Amagi
I have given up on a bunch of anime now I rather enjoy the few I really like to the fullest and use the rest of my free time to play games and read VNs.
Amagi
"Your comment is awaiting moderation" guess I posted too many links, he. Well thinking about it I could have just posted this in the shoutbox, it's no spoiler or anything.
Lenlo
I quite liked it. I like that it wasnt a one off thing either, but it showed them working at it. I enjoy how when Kurahara chooses to do something, he commits 100% to it. Its fitting for his character
Kaiser-Eoghan
A lesser series would have drawn out the drama with Haiji. The scenes with kakeru reading manga with Prince also further support what the anon was saying about him warming up to Prince.
Lenlo
I cant wait to watch it.
Anonymous3164706
And yeah, the cliffhanger from last wasn't a big deal since Haiji fainted from overworking himself and needs to rest.
Anonymous3164706
That part where he chose to slow down in order to cheer on Prince and Ouji was a great scene in particular. He's starting to care about others now.
Anonymous3164706
Man, Prince has come a long way from his slow, awkward running at the start. And it looks like Kakeru is improving in terms of building his relationships with his teammates.
SuperMario
awesome! Under the Silver Lake is out as well in case you want to watch it, Kaiser
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yo AwesomeMario , the bluray for Liz and the bluebird (the sound euphonium spinoff thing) is out, will probably be subtitled someday soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Compartively dogs DESPISE me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know...yeah, old kids stuff was kinda messed up and animal deaths were a big thing, Mufasa, bambi's mother aswell.
Amagi
Cats are weird
Amagi
We have two cats for two certain metro stations in my city. They belong to people living nearby but love the station so damn much you almost always see them sitting on the benches made for humans waiting for the subway/train. Two days ago I returned in the middle of the night and that one cat was still sitting there enjoying life. The other cat belongs to the station in front of my house.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Depressingly we also have that Lion king remake too.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though I think plague dogs film adaptation stopped just before the full ending of the book?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Lol there are actually people out there who believe that only straight men have aspergers syndrome.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can't actually leave a cat alone when I see it, actually snuck up on one to pick it up. Couldn't help myself.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh, heh, hey didn't know it shared the same author, makes alot of sense though.
Amagi
Yeah Plague Dogs is by the same author that did Watership. It was great. It's interesting to see how quickly series can become edgy and therefore bad on the one hand and how many grim dark movies or series exist that are damn good on the other hand. A wrong turn and your serious drama or thriller can turn into trash.
Amagi
Funny because I was also always a rabbit owner and now have a shitty cat (and yes I am actually autistic though although I guess I write pretty normal nowadays)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh Jesus...there was another old one wasn't there, the one about the dogs? Plague dogs, another example of a famliy/kids animation that pulled no punches.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoy alternate history/dystopia stuff, There was It happened here, a British film about a what if situation where Hitler won.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't think I was able to get away with missing the subtext of watership down though when I was younger, my parents made sure I understood it at that young age.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I also liked how watership never really came off as being edgy in an detrimental way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm convinced there is some connection between cats and rabbits in relation to autistic people, both creatures appear to love me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: And thats something I'm extremely picky on, mixing cuteness and darkness together but Waterships art got that right.
Anonymous3163410
Although it does try to go into darker material later on. It just tries to do what it can with a TV-Y7 rating and manages to succeed despite not being as violent or scary as the film.
Amagi
I like how Watership Down was basically the first popular cartoon with that dark moe trope if you count the rabbits as cute for being actual fluffy rabbits
Amagi
da,,it the cat won't leave the keyboard
Amagi
love 1984 too. genrally all of these political dystopias or however youcalltheseä#+
Anonymous3163410
It could be worse. It could be the sanitized kids version that aired in the late 90s.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And because the rabbits look organic in the 70s one, its more scary.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Watership was particularly harrowing though because it was rabbits and I was young and I was predisposed to rabbits=fluffy cute things.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*Ahem* kind of commied out there for a second. I'm actually more of an Allende-ist.
Kaiser-Eoghan
1984is still a good story too.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But he agreed that animal farm was good, despite being written by a trotsykite.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My father hated him despite my dad being a Marxist.
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