Posted by psgels on 18 January 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews




It’s amazing to think that even in the early days of Bones, they already managed to gather a ridiculous amount of talent. I mean, they immediately showed how good they are with animating down to earth fight scenes with Angelic Layer, they got to do the Escaflowne movie, which had some fantastic animation, and not to mention Cowboy Bebop’s movie (of which I’ve heard many good movies). Then they came with RahXephon and really cemented themselves as a unique production company.

First and foremost, RahXephon is an example of the heights that anime can attain when they make full use of of their creative liberties. For something that aired nine years ago, it just has absolutely fantastic ideas within its graphics. The mecha design is exquisite, and unlike any other series I’ve seen. The use of CG is brilliant, especially for its time. The cleanup animation may leave a lot to be desired, but this show more than makes up for it with its gorgeous artwork and animation. The scenes in this series are also really well directed: this show is full of ideas, from the small details to large plot twist.

Now, as for the story itself though, you’re definitely going to like a bit of a mind-screw once in a while if you want to be able to enjoy this series. In particular, this is in no way a series that tries to explain everything that’s going on through it’s airtime: it leaves a lot unmentioned, and it especially refrains from mentioning exactly why everything is happening in this series. Instead, it just leaves this up to the viewers to make their own interpretations. I personally really like these kinds of series, but if you don’t then prepare to go “wtf” quite a few times throughout the series’ airtime because even for my standards this show ended up leaving a bunch of crucial unanswered questions behind.

Now, one thing that annoyed me a bit is that the cast of characters in this series is a bit of a mixed bag. It can be very good, and the acting is mostly rock solid, and the backgrounds of the characters are overall pretty interesting, but at the same time this show also spends quite a bit of its time on teenaged angst, unfortunately to the point where it takes up too much of the storyline and just goes on for too long. Characters refuse to talk to each other for strange reasons, and various romantic relationships take ages to get from A to B due to superficial padding.

Overall though, while this isn’t a show to watch for its cast, it still has a lot to like here, and I’m impressed what the people from Bones pulled off here. And to be honest, I had a really difficult time deciding whether to give it a rating of 85 or of 87,5, because even nine years after it aired it still is unique. Unfortunately, I do have to admit that it had some parts that were annoying. Nevertheless, it did have got the kind of mindset that I really like, where it put more focus on being interesting than on being flawless.

Storytelling: 9/10 – A lot of subtle details in the storytelling, the pacing is slow, the story is vague on purpose and yet packs some great and interesting scenarios.
Characters: 8/10 – Too much teenaged angst and characters who make strange actions, but the rest of the cast is solid enough to make up for it.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Unique graphics for a TV-series. Brilliant use of CG, especially for its time.
Setting: 8/10 – Inspired by Evangelion, but packs more than enough great ideas and details of its own. Could have been more solid, though.

Suggestions:
– Neon Genesis Evangelion
Argento Soma
Darker than Black

43 Responses

  1. RollingCamel says:

    Not exactly the same sort of mecha but how is it in comparison with Last Exile?

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Rollingcamel: to be honest I have no idea, because I’ve yet to see Last Exile.

  3. gandalf8 says:

    @RollingCamel: I think that psgels hasn’t watched Rahxephon yet, but it is on his to-watch list. And I didn’t recall Last Exile having any mecha in it.

    On to the review then. I do agree to a certain extent with your review. My main beef was also with the characters, specifically Ayato and all his angsting. I really felt they stretched it a bit too long portraying his indecisiveness and his mood swings.

    As for the story, even now I still don’t think that I’ve grasped it fully yet. This series is really one of those that needs to be watched once, take a break and let you digest it a bit, then watch it a second time.

    Also, I really suggest watching the movie. Although the movie had a few differences compared to the tv series, I felt that the movie explained the main plot points better, and I understood more of the main story.

    Overall, I would say that this is definitely one of the most intriguing anime that I’ve watched, where you really need to switch on your brain while watching if you want to fully enjoy it.

  4. Meep says:

    For some reason, I really couldn’t get into this one. I’ve had the boxset for years and only managed to watch halfway; now it’s been so long that I have to re-watch it. =P I saw someone mention Last Exile though…no, it’s not mecha, but it’s quite amazing, and it was my favorite anime for a long time. Gorgeous airship battles and interesting characters except that Claus might come off as a little boring at first. xD

  5. Da5id says:

    He posted a review of a show he didn’t watch?

  6. RollingCamel says:

    @gandalf8: I take mecha with a more general view so it covers electromechanical, mechanical and bio machines. The Guild machines were mecha too.

    “I think that psgels hasn’t watched Rahxephon yet”
    Huh?!

  7. gandalf8 says:

    Oops. I meant he hadn’t watch Last Exile yet. But it seems hes already answered that.

  8. Ransom says:

    RahXephon will have a special place in my favorite anime series of all time :)

    I don’t pay too much atention to characters unless it’s a commedy or some type of drama but I certainly enjoy stories and RahXephon had a good story to tell.

  9. Sarynn says:

    To those who didn’t quite grasp what was going on, just check out this link:
    http://www.kenoki.com/nko/faqs.html

    It will explain the backstory of RahXephon where we normally had to guess and fill-in-the-gaps ourselves.

    Of course, if you prefer having your own personal interpretation, ignore that link. :P It was great for me though, I was like “Oooh… that does make sense… WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST SAY SO?? Still, cool story.” Knowing this backstory made my RahXephon rewatch last week even more fun.

  10. Frost says:

    I dropped this halfway through, not a fan of mindfuck and yeah, too much angst (just like Evangelion…)

    Ill take the classic Gundam franchise over “experimental mechas” anyday :P

  11. Watcherzero says:

    The music stays with me, surprised you didnt mention how excellent it was (what with sound being an element of the plot too).

    It is a mind fuck, it does leave unanswered questions and it does have that kind of ending where you yell at the charachters they should have done something differently, however its an amazing tale. Also this isnt called the Evangelion clone for nothing, if you like Evangelion or religious allegory but wished it had higher production values this is the series for you.

  12. Cerrian says:

    I hope you watched it past the credits of the last episodes cause there was a nice scene to conclude the series with.

    As someone else mentioned earlier, you should watch the movie since it retells the story from Haruka’s point of view and greatly develops the relationship between her and Ayato. It is one of the better tv series –> movie conversions that I’ve seen.

    As for Last Exile, you’ve already been reviewing some great classics of late…Maison Ikkoku, Cowboy Bebop, Witch Hunter Robin…might as well add Last Exile to the list.

  13. Puran says:

    So, now that you’ve seen this, are you getting a Rahxephon vibe from the paintings in Star Driver?

  14. Ransom says:

    I agree with Puran! I think I mentioned that in a comment from one of your Star Driver posts.

  15. Somnium says:

    I actually just finished the series, I thought it was well done. The teenagers’ attitudes wore on me, especially since I watched it over the course of just a few days, but all and all I thought it was good. The series uses a a lot of symbolism, which I did like. One scene that really stands out was in the final episode, I won’t go into much detail, but two characters were in a subway station. Another thing that I loved was the emphasis on music, I’m a huge Tolkien fan and I saw an important similarity to a section of The Silmarillion.

    As for Last Exile, the two don’t really compare well. Rahxephon is a heavy drama, while Last Exile’s world is bright and beautiful, not nearly as oppressive as the setting from Rahxephon. Last Exile is more of steampunk styled world with these awesome flying ships. A big part of its plot revolves around the world itself, not the flying ships. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but as I don’t think I wouldn’t compare the two series as they have many differences.

  16. Animeguigas says:

    Ah RahXephon.I really liked this show when i watched the 1st time. But at the 2nd time i was just like Sarynn “Oooh… that does make sense… WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST SAY SO?? Still, cool story”, then i started to love this (my favorite mecha anime, and i’ve seen virtually ALL mecha animes out there).

    RahXephon is the only anime i enjoyed much more the 2nd time than the 1st time, mainly because i managed to understand many things that i missed the 1st time i watched (i already rewatched this show 4 times, hell yeah RahXephon).

    Unfortunately this anime will be forever doomed as a clone of EVA (its kinda alike, but for me Rah is superior to EVA; Ayato humiliates whiny Shinji and the end of RahXephon is 1000 times better than EVA’s end) but yeah, this anime is definetely not for everyone, the plot is thick and the lack of good action (the battles are lacksture, don’t watch RahXephon expecting great fights, you ‘ll be disappointed), fanservice, and a straightfoward story (the show will provide the pieces of the story, its up to the viewer to piece them together, so you have to use your brain constantly to understand WTF is going on) will push away many casual watchers.

    I love this anime because almost everything that happens on RahXephon has a purpose, its not like other “mindfuck animes” that makes a bunch of questions without providing us the necessary information for us to drawn our own conclusions.

    And i reccomend (specially you Psgels) to enter at the link Sarynn provided; the information there will clarify many questions that the show didn’t “answered in a clear way” for us viewers.

  17. Julius says:

    Psgels said: “even for my standards this show ended up leaving a bunch of crucial unanswered questions behind.” I disagree. This show answered, at least for me, most of the questions left behind. If you rewatch RahXephon i am preety sure you will agree with my point of view. Just a few questions weren’t ansewed. You’ll see what i am talking about when you visit the site Sarynn provided us.
    The link: http://www.kenoki.com/nko/faqs.html

  18. Hades says:

    NGE is good, but RahXephon is fantastic.

  19. Vanny says:

    Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile.

    I preferred it over Rahxephon (I love them both) but Last Exile’s genre is steam punk, not mecha.
    Beautiful anime and story.

  20. sato says:

    Please watch Last Exile and Kurau now!

  21. jzar says:

    It really was a great show and one of the few I have a box set of. Seeing it here and being reviewed makes me want to go watch it again.

    It really was so much better the EVA but it did look to be inspired by it. So yes many will see it as a clone but as others mention RahXephon is really a stand out story and the art is nothing but awesome.

  22. Chris says:

    Has it really been nine years? Jeez, you’re making me feel old.

  23. Uzir says:

    I always wonder why people said rahxephon is copy of NGE? Other than plot of protagonist change the world,Rahxephon is so much better.For me, it got better design,plot,character development and personality. It just a little bit hard to understand the whole story since it got a complex world and character relationship.
    Need to watch it twice to understand it.

    • Quiddity says:

      Those that call it a copy of NGE for the most part have an ignorance of their mecha anime history. RahXephon is heavily inspired by old Sunrise mecha anime (ex. Brave Raideen), similar to how Evangelion was heavily inspired by old Sunrise mecha anime (Ideon, Gundam, etc…). Because Bones was made up largely of people from Sunrise, it makes total sense.

  24. Westlo says:

    “It’s amazing to think that even in the early days of Bones, they already managed to gather a ridiculous amount of talent. ”

    They really didn’t gather that “talent”, more like Sunrise’s “talented” people left and formed Bones.

  25. RollingCamel says:

    I haven’t seen RahXephon but from the description and art they looked somewhat similar. Mecha or not it doesn’t matter plus in the end someone is piloting something no matter how sophisticated it is.

    On another note, I was ranting before about 3D CG in anime, Last Exile shut me up.

  26. Pax says:

    Most people drop this series because they say it’s a bad Evangelion clone and so on, actually from what information I was able to find RahXephon borrows a lot more from Raideen and Megazone 23, when I say that it borrows I don’t mean it in a bad way, after all even Evangelion borrowed a lot from other anime too. I did not finish RahXephon, watched about 20 episodes a few years ago, I definitely can say I found it to be more enjoyable than Evangelion, I liked the ost better and do I even need to compare Shinji with Ayato?

  27. Gabriel says:

    Okaaaaay! this will be in my watch list this weekend. I’m going to have an anime marathon this weekend?

    http://answers.jpn.com/questions/38/just-finished-my-first-set-of-anime-marathon-can-you-recommend-another-good-one-that-i-can-start-on

    any recommends? like same genre with death note, code gease or something like that?

  28. AKI says:

    “Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile”

    I agree. Last Exile is way much better than RahXephon. And yeah, there ain’t any mecha on Last Exile. Just flying ships and airplanes!

  29. Watcherzero says:

    Well the guild ships are transformable mecha, but its not really a mecha series.

  30. Will says:

    I heard that the show was somehow a carbon copy of Evangelion, how true or false is this statement?

  31. psgels psgels says:

    Will: it’s definitely not a carbon copy. It’s merely inspired by it, in the same way that Evangelion was inspired by the giant robot series. Both have enough of ideas of their own.

  32. Will says:

    That’s good to know. I’ve been watching lots of series with little or not originality whatsoever lately. I think I’ll pick up RahXephon.

  33. AKI says:

    NGE inspired a lot of anime like RahXephon and Gasaraki, which brings to me to question if you have already watched it (Gasaraki)?

  34. B says:

    Yo Gabriel, I confirm that you should have a look at Last Exile …. I will post a note to your “anime marathon” thread

    Any other suggestions?

  35. psgels psgels says:

    AKI: yup, I watched Gasaraki, and liked it even more than Rahxephon.

  36. DangerMouse says:

    “Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile.

    I preferred it over Rahxephon (I love them both) but Last Exile’s genre is steam punk, not mecha.
    Beautiful anime and story.”

    Agreed Vanny, Last Exile is one of my favorite anime of all time. :)

    As sato said Last Exile and Kurau (another really good Bones show) should definitely be watched :)

    Great review of RahXephon, really impressive show and I loved the way they put all their ideas together.

  37. Tan-Tan says:

    Just finished this. Really awesome anime I’d recommend to anyone. It kind of got boring in the second half. That is if you’re sick of all the hold-up to the real plot haha. But the sidestories add to the solidness of the show. Just now a fan of some characters.

  38. Redtail says:

    After 18 episodes I can not watch this anymore. It’s ridiculous.

    Protagonists reason to fight: “Because I can.” Protagonists second reason to fight: “Because I’m here.”

    Are you kidding me? Am I watching a bad translation? And all the unanswered questions, seriously now. THIS THING HAS NO PLOT. IT JUST TUMBLES DOWN THE STAIRS.

  39. Redtail says:

    After 18 episodes I can not watch this anymore. It’s ridiculous.

    Protagonists reason to fight: “Because I can.” Protagonists second reason to fight: “Because I’m here.”

    Are you kidding me? Am I watching a bad translation? And all the unanswered questions, seriously now. THIS THING HAS NO PLOT. IT JUST TUMBLES DOWN THE STAIRS.

  40. Hades says:

    @Redtail

    “And all the unanswered questions, seriously now.”
    You didn’t even had the decency to finish the show so why are you complaining about “unanswered questions”? Maybe if you finish the whole thing you might be able to fill in the blanks like I did. Finish the anime before bashing it dude.

  41. Digi says:

    To be honest , This anime is better than Last Exile and very similar to NGE , Ill still rate it among my top 20 or top 15 , Its a really good show, and it seriously impressed me .
    Star Driver sucks -_- and Last Exile doesnt match up to this, also , Last exile is more like an action adventure show, they really dont compare

  42. garrat Cooper says:

    I’ve got to say that Rahxephon was a big disappointment to me. I’m an avid Eva fan and seeing this was a slog. I wanted gto quit so many times and eve3n though the ending is great I honestly feel like half of this show could have been cut out and it would have had greater impact on me. A lot of the supporting cast seemed superflous and by the time things got real I was nearly disinterested primarily through the lack of tension.

    I like how people say this is better than Eva but this explains less than Eva did, Ayato angts more than Shinji while having fewer problems than him. Also isn’t the main couple incestuous? All of which I’ve seen leveled at Eva at one point or another. But this anime gets a pass on that. Oh well I will say that the final minute of this show puts nearly everything in context.

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AidanAK47
Guess we can put that down as one of the most important things a critic needs. Self Awareness.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I won't deny having an inflated sense of worth but Nostalgia blindness? You are reaching man.
Anonymous777074
Just like you :)
AidanAK47
Anyway I never heard of this guy and he seems like the usually case of Nostalgia blindness and inflated sense of worth. Nothing really worth concerning ourselves about.
AidanAK47
"How can I be pretentious when I mean everything I say?" Oh silly silly fool. Being an idiot doesn't mean you can't be pretentious.
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I bring him up because I feel he'd be more controversial than Tenka seiha/aroduc or digibro.
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SuperMario
I don't know who would that be either Kaiser? A V-blogger?
Lenlo
Who?
Kaiser Eoghan
We talk about digibro on here, yet we never talk about Rorico.
Anonymous774043
I agree
Anonymous773640
Shitcunt is the greatest anime villain of all time. End of argument.
Lenlo
Best villain was clearly JJ. JJ is actually the best character for every category.
Lenlo
@SuperMario, I just felt there was some social context to the discussion with the boss that I missed.
Kaiser Eoghan
Bah, haven't you heard, the best villain category was for the dictionary in Lost passage, must have been bastard-hard effort getting that compiled =P
AidanAK47
To sum that up, don't bully my waifu or I will end you.
AidanAK47
@Mario, She only killed him once and tortured him for information once. Both times because he had something which showed he had a connection to the witch. Besides, the anime mainly showed off her good points but she still has a crushing inferiority complex and a rather delicate mindset.
SuperMario
Oh I have one. How about Lovepon? lol
SuperMario
@Topgavin: it was sarcasm actually, if we do it again next year we might cut down some categories. But I totally agree that we're lacking of good villains. Biba and that teacher are the worst as they actually dragged their shows down.
Topgavin
Honestly though there's been a real lacking of good villains last year. I hear some guy from Jojo was pretty good, but other than that they've either been okay or lackluster. Makes you wonder how FMA:B managed to get so many villians right in so many ways when shows usually fail to get even 1 half as good.
Topgavin
@Supermario Biba or Teacher-dude from Erased surely...
SuperMario
Maybe we should include the best villain next time, haha. I honestly don't know who to pick...
SuperMario
oh Rem, that demon girl who tried to kill Subaru many times over. Why is she the best girl again?
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I watched Moonlight last night in cinema and it was great. I had high expectation for that and it pretty much delivered. Also Janelle Monae was so freaking hot.
SuperMario
OMG, that 3rd episode of Rakugo was so greattttt. @Lenlo: don't need to understand the meaning of the rant thou, Yotaro doesn't understand either
Kaiser Eoghan
Think of the fine children/breeding stock Aidan and rem would offspring =P
Kaiser Eoghan
Dye their hair, make things confusing ;)
AidanAK47
@Anon, hahahaha, cool joke bro.....
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Lenlo
The one with red hair of course
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rem? who's that?
Lenlo
Having read the books, theres afew inconsistencies and I dont like some of the choices for actors.
Kaiser Eoghan
*couldn't
Kaiser Eoghan
Buh buh but Aiiiidan you still have the koe no katachi movie and thaaats kyoani =P But lol phantom world was so poor I couldn't get past the second episode. A shame that they could go with the darker spin the author ended up apparently going for in later volumes.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I am currently eh on it as well. Only at the second episode so far. I find it interesting but it has a lot of things that turn me off.
Lenlo
7 YEARS I SAT ON THAT BOAT!

Still havnt finished Flip Flappers. I like it, its pretty, each episode is different, but I can barely tell what the over-arching narrative is and thats a big deal to me
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ITS REAL
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BOAT TIER
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@Aidan, Series of Unfortunate Events was eh. I wasnt a big fan of the TV adaptation, though I did like Neil Patrick Harris
Kaiser Eoghan
@Lenlo: BOAT TIER lmao.
Kaiser Eoghan
Thats why I LOVED flippflappers so much, where else can I get THAT anywhere, totally its own thing/beast.
Lenlo
My big ones for the year were easily Rakugo and Re:Zero. Disappointments, biggest one is Berserk. Ive been following it for years, have the entire series on my shelf, and I watched it like a captain going down with his ship
Kaiser Eoghan
At the same time well, yes its still good to see a non-highschool story in ANYTHING.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, you see I don't really award points to an anime doing something unique to anime, I judge by all mediums as a group/whole. 91 days may be a mafia drama, kabaneri may be a zombie show but theres already plenty of those in the world elsewhere.
Kaiser Eoghan
I could see myself getting some oldskool charm out of alderman if I watched it. I was waiting for yuri on ice to be dubbed. Drifters for all its problems was some of the most fun I've had in ages.
Kaiser Eoghan
The only thing I saw that I truly abhorred though was the new shinkai film.
Kaiser Eoghan
Most of the other stuff I didn't really bother watching. Its pointless for me to shit on about 91 days and re:zero because I was guaranteed to dislike both before seeing either.
Kaiser Eoghan
Biggest disappointments for me were erased , berserk and joker game. Whereas my surprise was lost passage. My favourites of the year were flippflappers and Rakugo. I wanted Kabaneri and dimesion w to save anime and bring back some oldskool charm but that didn't happen.
AidanAK47
Alright I spent over an hour formatting this thing and now I am knackered. Readers, this summery is over 23 pages long so be prepared as this thing is pretty huge. Don't say you were not warned.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Watch it. I bet it will be up your alley.
Kaiser Eoghan
Thats a problem with adaptations, put a voice on certain characters and it can become irritating.
Kaiser Eoghan
And to be fair on scums wish, that it deals with the sex bit in a teen story, well that makes it more daring and thats points for it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Largely stayed away from that series as I assumed it was for young children.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Additionally the relationships in that manga got too convoluted, the comedy stands out worse in the anime too. Still though I DO dig the idea behind the show of two kids who are in a fake relationship.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, you think that's hard to watch try watching Netflix's A series of unfortunate events. Because boy do I want to brutally murder the banker and his family. That may sound severe to you but trust me, you will feel likewise.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: You were right about it being harder to watch scums wish than read it. I want to hit the twin tails girl with a hatchet.
Kaiser Eoghan
I'm laughing now remembering an old ANN review where they stated golgo 13 was a stress reliever for 30 something Japanese office workers, I get that so much more now lol
Kaiser Eoghan
But seriously violence in fiction, anime/manga included is so damn therapeutic.
Kaiser Eoghan
As such I genuinely was able to enjoy the new M night shaylman flick lol
Kaiser Eoghan
Venting here largely because I can, I now imagine the teenage/twenty something audience members at horror/thriller films as the victims in the films, makes it more tolerable to deal with their existence in the cinema.
Lenlo
I cant help but feel theres some cultural aspect I am missing to the Rakugo rant scene. Makes me sad.
Lenlo
Rakugo, continues to be great and gets another time skip. Im always surprised by how engrossing it is just listening to these people talk.
Lenlo
Makes me sad, just like Berserk. Got an entire shelf dedicated to it but its just so slow. stupid boat.
Lenlo
Vagabond was phenomenal, but its been on hiatus for years now hasnt it
Kaiser Eoghan
....well without spoiling towards the middle of that rakugo episode and all throughout during that middle part, my opinion on Yotaro's character went far up.
Kaiser Eoghan
Struggling to remember the name of that josei samurai manga from the 90s (or earlier 2000s), had a gender bending theme.
Kaiser Eoghan
I've already read kenshin and vagabond, I loved shigurui death frenzy and sword of the stranger but found samurai champloo uneven. Theres a kagemusha manga but I haven't read it and I've yet to see/read blade of the immortal.
Kaiser Eoghan
At a glance I'll go against the grain and say I think demi-chan is funnier than konosuba, going on one episode of each.
I've been watching a fare share of samurai films in the last two years and lately so I'm open to wathing more anime/reading manga dealing with samurai.
SuperMario
Hand Shakers, how I love to watch it jumping off the cliff. This show contains lines like "I don't understand... even if I did understand... but I don't understand." It isn't a dialogue that we encounter too often I'm sure.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Sounds good to me. With me covering Little Witch Academia, Saga of Tanya the evil and Rakugo this season is well covered.
SuperMario
so I've decided to blog 3-gatsu, Scum's Wish and ACCA this season. A bit worry about the latter as I still don't have much to talk about that. Let's try it and see what happens; I say
SuperMario
Okay, I'm not hot on Onihei this week, as if the main theme about these two episodes were "people can be corrupted" then I'm not buying it. ACCA, on the other hand, was still very solid of building up the world and its big events to come.
AidanAK47
I have played all the big roguelikes and found they have the same problem. I argee on procedural generation. Even if the map is different every time you are essentailly going through the same rooms and doing the same things.
Masky
Though to be honest, I don't like procedural(or designed room and then game connects them randomly) games much. I much enjoy hand designed dungeons since I rarely play games through more than once anyway so roguelike's appeal of "Every time you play it through its different!" doesn't appeal to me much and hand designed dungeons are much more memorable
Masky
Can't really comment further on that since I don't know which roguelikes you have played, and neither I have played gungeon so I don't know if its badly designed to the point you can't do anything if rng says so. Though I guess there is nothing wrong about liking luck based games, if roguelike in question is truly unbeatable if rng says so, well, its really badly designed one if you ask me.
AidanAK47
Take my last run. Made it up to the fourth floor. Got plenty of guns but none were really useful. Even then ran out of ammo for all of them and the game was cheap about giving out ammo. Plenty of money but shops with nothing worth buying. Over 5 heart containers but no goddamn health. Died on the boss because I rolled out of a bullet into another bullet. Pretty much unavoidable.
AidanAK47
@Masky, that's the theory but in pretty much every roguelike I played its not the case. If the RNG decides you are going to have a bad time then you are going to have a bad time. Skill can only bring you so far. I have played this game for 7 hours and I know I could have finished it in 2. Only thing stopping me is a dice roll.
Masky
Like, the thing with roguelikes is that they can get easier/harder depending on luck, but well done one should be completable even without any upgrades at all if you are skilled enough.
Masky
Thats not the really case with roguelikes though, unless game design is bad and includes insta kill traps and such that are unavoidable if you are unlucky
AidanAK47
I hate roguelikes. Been playing enter the Gungeon and I just lost all patience with it. Getting real tired of my victory being decided by a RNG. It never feels satisfying to finish a roguelike because I know my victory was determined by pure luck.
AidanAK47
So we got to rely on fansubs for it when it's airing.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Nope. I think because netflix only puts up full seasons they are only planning to put it up when it's finished airing. Or when it's dubbed.
SuperMario
But how does the Netflix thing work? So of I have a Netflix account I can watch the show weekly?
SuperMario
@Aidan: that's a dumb way to do things really because unless you watch the show weekly, everyone gonna forget that it even exist. Just look at Re-Life last year
Lenlo
thought*. Words are hard.

Eventually found the actual first ep though and enjoyed it.
Lenlo
Was funny. I tried to find the first Ep for Little Witch, found original short made afew years ago, watched it and though "This is very similar to the original... Whats new".
AidanAK47
Little witch is one of the best shows this season and yet I can't get subtitles because Netflix doesn't release shows weekly. Motherf*cker.
Lenlo
Ore Monogatari I enjoyed. It was a nice romance that actually explored what happens after the confession. Also the 2 leads are just precious.
Lenlo
Alright but unmemorable seems like a good summation.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: one good thing about Seiren is if you don't like this romance, the whole thing gonna reset after episode 4 so there's a chance that you might end up like it. Agreed that the comedy wasn't very good. Alright but unmemorable
SuperMario
@Topgavin: I watched like first 3 episodes and stopped because I didn't have much time there, but I enjoyed what I saw. A well-written and endearing show in my book
Topgavin
Has anyone here watched Ore Monogatari before? Because in the 4 years I've watched anime, I've never heard of it (I guess it did come out 2 years ago) and yet it's turning out to be one of my favorite shows. Always great going into a show expecting nothing and getting pleasantly surprised.
AidanAK47
Only one more impression to go. Should have it up tomorrow.
Lenlo
Im really not feeling Seiren. Its "comedy" isnt for me and I just dont find it very enjoyable to watch so far. Im curious if it gets any better but 2 episodes in it just isnt that good.
HelghastKillzone
That ending scene is an entire side-story compressed into that. Don't expect anymore of it from here on out as the it sticks to ruthless military/fantasy pretty well.
LookingForKeys
@Topgavin I think it was good, making it the second episode. That way the first set up the world the story will be in, and showed how much of a monster the "little girl" really is right at the end, and then made ep.2 the explanation. Nothing against Tanya trying to rip "God" a new one.
That after-credits scene, though...
SuperMario
Hmm, as much as I like Seiren's omnibus format, it doesn't turn out really hot this second episode. Demi-chan, on the other hand, still maintains its endearing tone. Might blogging Demi-chan instead
Topgavin
Yeah, that second episode was much better than the first. Dunno why they didn't start with that to be honest, waste of an opportunity for a good hook episode. The voice for the main girl still sounds weird to me though; I get it's supposed to sound weird because it symbolizes 'her' being out of place and her personality and body being a mismatch, but it'll certainly take some getting used to.
AidanAK47
Youjo Senki, now we are talking. Like Helghast said, Did the god scene way better than the LN and manga. Made it less comedic and more intimidating.
Lenlo
Oh man that Rakugo intro. Not sure what to think, but first time seeing it I liked it
Kaiser Eoghan
I sort of like good will hunting because I kind of saw a bit of myself in Damon's character when I watched it ages ago.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Remaking psycho and ruining the shower scene, for shame van sant, for shame.
Kaiser Eoghan
Its easy to ripoff some obscure thing though and get away with it. The dogtooth director essentially stole an old Mexican film to make that.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: yeah, that following some guys from behind like they were on a RPG games, which I think actually fit with the tones of Elephant. I have such mixed feeling with Gus van Sant too. Don't really think he's a great director.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Although Istvan Szabo is probably a little more well known for that Mephisto film that updates the Faust story. Zoltan Fabri's the fifth seal is a very thought provoking war movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I remember seeing a film documentary that featured Gus van sant in one section, they showed clips of tarrs films, Sant ripped of the cinematography and stole the style from some British short film to make Elephant.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree on the other Hungarian filmmakers, I don't know much about them either.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Scorsese's Silence was a big comeback. I really really emotionally connect with spiritual crisis stories.
SuperMario
@kaiser: yep, definitely check wreckmeister down. Althought I admit that watching his 2-hour plus films will feel like 5-hour anyways
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm more tolerant of darker teenage/coming of age films/stories. Les Demons was a big surprise.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Though its kind of frustrating, I do think Tarr probably takes attention away from other hungarian filmakers because no-body knows who the hell the others are.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Man, wreckmeister was so visually arresting I started getting dreams from it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I would consider Tarr to be kind of a poor mans Janco, Angelopolus and Tarkvosky rolled into one. I don't entirely "get" wreckmeister and man from London but they are great atmospheric mood piece experiences.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I had been wanting to watch Belar Tarr's Turin Horse and Werckmeister Harmonies for so long now. Well, Fat Girl is shocking haha, but I'm normally drawn into those kind of films anyway.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Margaret took like 5,6 years to release because he couldn't cut it down in the way he wanted. The final cut if I remembered correctly was edited by Martin Scorsese
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Only a HDcam for moonlight now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I looks like my lineup is witch academia, rakugo and youjo senki, well the most latter one until I get bored.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I sense a directors cut for manchester, it feels like it need another 30 minutes.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: right up my valley. Watch Kenneth Lonergan's previous works Magaret and You Can Count on Me. Magaret is very messy but have a raw dialogue and interactions as well
SuperMario
Now the first episodes are over, I will keep on covering 3-gatsu, as for the other twos atm I have 3 options: 1) full romance/anti-romance high school Seiren/Scum's Wish. 2) slice-of-life moe monster girls Demi-chan/Maid Dragon and 3) Mature,dark Onihen/Acca (which although I like them I don't have much to talk about).If you guys have any preference on which shows you like covered then let me know
Kaiser Eoghan
@Helghast: At this point I'm watching youjo senki as an entertaining guilty pleasure.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Too many reboots upcoming, will wait for the dvds instead. I want to explore more of manchester by the sea's director's work. I also want to finally get more into Bela Tarr's stuff.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I was rather shocked by A Ma souer/fat girls final act. Scenes with the Italian in the bedroom were initially creepy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it's a nice review Kaiser, a bit jealous with you that you've seen those 3 films which are touted as the best films of 2016. Also Fat Girl, haha, I love that movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
Poor yotaro =< you have so much stuff going down on you =<
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki episode was so good today. That revamped scene with God just fitted so right.
AidanAK47
A official release of that game in the west is apparently coming but it's been a few years and not much news about it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Ah yes that was the one.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Had to think for a moment on that one but I think I was talking about this. https://vndb.org/v3144
Kaiser Eoghan
Now I'd hardly consider myself a studio trigger fan, but I watched the first witch academia episode there, it was actually kind of fun, got the same reaction from me as flipflappers did, that magical, special feeling.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I also, of interest reviewed Kenneth Lonegrans new film: http://letterboxd.com/shao_liu_ringon/film/manchester-by-the-sea/
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Moonlight got some feels out of me though it could of been more, it ends abruptly and with 20 extra minutes they could have spent a bit more time on each section of his life.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I checked out lala land, ending was very well executed, one of three scenes in the film that were impressive visually. The whole thing looked pretty and Gosling and Stone had some decent chemistry. Although it didn't resonate emotionally as strongly as the musicals of Jacques Demi did.
Kaiser Eoghan
MOM I want aiyoku no eustia and I want it now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I've never heard of himawari or tokyo babel. The hellsing comparison at least interests me in dies irae. What was the name of that visual novel again that was coming out soon, Aidan you described it as "And Kaiser would love it because its supposed to be really fucked up".
Kaiser Eoghan
I vaguely remember the anime for 11 eyes, it was very forgettable, even the voice acting was poor, hated the childhood friends and the pacing was poor, those black knight things were kind of interesting though.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: You'll have to add me onto the list of those unsatisfied with the ever 17 writer, I read one of those games and felt it was a bunch of interesting bait that never paid off.
AidanAK47
Anyway I plan on doing a review of 11eyes here when I finish it.
AidanAK47
Can't say I was a fan of Ever17. That was a really good twist but when it came to explaining it their was a lot of contrived development. Generally not a fan of the writer. Looseboy, Ryukishi, Gen and Nasu are more my kinda thing
AidanAK47
@Anon, it is nice that so many VNs are on steam but I wish they wouldn't be stupid with the whole no adult content thing. Not so much for myself but to prevent idiots from writing negitives reviews because the game doesn't have sex. VNs can grip you in a way anime simply can't and while they require pathence and time those can be some pretty powerful stories.
Anonymous678956
@Aidan, I am so happy steam's so VN-friendly now. I think it's a very good type of media. Like anime, it has nice visuals, music and some movement but also the inner monologue and text amount of books. It's the perfect combination. Plus, the routes, which are often puzzle pieces and PoVs you have to go through to understand the whole story. True routes like the one of Ever17 blew my mind.
AidanAK47
Hopefully the two VNs I bought of steam turn out better. Tokyo Babel is supposed to be alright and I heard really good things about Himawari.
AidanAK47
I am about a third of the way through the game and really not much of worth has happened. The concept is interesting but the execution is sorely lacking.
AidanAK47
I went in expecting it to be a mixed bag and it's pretty below my expectations. It's just not really well written and the protagonist is a moron. THere isn't really routes and instead you are pretty much stuck with his childhood friend as the main love interest. Problem with that is her character begins and ends with loving the main.
Anonymous675376
@Aidan, damn. 11Eyes is on my reading list as well. Although I almost expected it to not be as good as I thought it'd be (back then). Guess I would have enjoyed it if I was able to read it while the (shitty) adaption aired, maybe I have seen/read too many series by now. Guess I'll still give it a try some day though.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I haven't heard the OST or watched the intro video. I only know it be reputation and have decided to walk into it as blind as I can. Still slightly worried as I was somewhat looking forward to reading 11Eyes for a couple of years and now that I am reading it it's well...not good.
Anonymous675376
@Aidan, same here. I was waiting years for this, since I saw the intro video for the first time. Also, that OST!
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki is already leagues better than Izetta. It's going to be top anime of forever and ever. (maybe not)
AidanAK47
And finally Dies Irae is funded. May actually be able to play and finish the game before the anime airs. If the hype is real behind this baby it could be a new personal favorite Visual Novel of mine. Already looking promising with it being like a cross between Hellsing and Fate/Stay Night. Two things I most certainly like.
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