Posted by psgels on 18 January 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews




It’s amazing to think that even in the early days of Bones, they already managed to gather a ridiculous amount of talent. I mean, they immediately showed how good they are with animating down to earth fight scenes with Angelic Layer, they got to do the Escaflowne movie, which had some fantastic animation, and not to mention Cowboy Bebop’s movie (of which I’ve heard many good movies). Then they came with RahXephon and really cemented themselves as a unique production company.

First and foremost, RahXephon is an example of the heights that anime can attain when they make full use of of their creative liberties. For something that aired nine years ago, it just has absolutely fantastic ideas within its graphics. The mecha design is exquisite, and unlike any other series I’ve seen. The use of CG is brilliant, especially for its time. The cleanup animation may leave a lot to be desired, but this show more than makes up for it with its gorgeous artwork and animation. The scenes in this series are also really well directed: this show is full of ideas, from the small details to large plot twist.

Now, as for the story itself though, you’re definitely going to like a bit of a mind-screw once in a while if you want to be able to enjoy this series. In particular, this is in no way a series that tries to explain everything that’s going on through it’s airtime: it leaves a lot unmentioned, and it especially refrains from mentioning exactly why everything is happening in this series. Instead, it just leaves this up to the viewers to make their own interpretations. I personally really like these kinds of series, but if you don’t then prepare to go “wtf” quite a few times throughout the series’ airtime because even for my standards this show ended up leaving a bunch of crucial unanswered questions behind.

Now, one thing that annoyed me a bit is that the cast of characters in this series is a bit of a mixed bag. It can be very good, and the acting is mostly rock solid, and the backgrounds of the characters are overall pretty interesting, but at the same time this show also spends quite a bit of its time on teenaged angst, unfortunately to the point where it takes up too much of the storyline and just goes on for too long. Characters refuse to talk to each other for strange reasons, and various romantic relationships take ages to get from A to B due to superficial padding.

Overall though, while this isn’t a show to watch for its cast, it still has a lot to like here, and I’m impressed what the people from Bones pulled off here. And to be honest, I had a really difficult time deciding whether to give it a rating of 85 or of 87,5, because even nine years after it aired it still is unique. Unfortunately, I do have to admit that it had some parts that were annoying. Nevertheless, it did have got the kind of mindset that I really like, where it put more focus on being interesting than on being flawless.

Storytelling: 9/10 – A lot of subtle details in the storytelling, the pacing is slow, the story is vague on purpose and yet packs some great and interesting scenarios.
Characters: 8/10 – Too much teenaged angst and characters who make strange actions, but the rest of the cast is solid enough to make up for it.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Unique graphics for a TV-series. Brilliant use of CG, especially for its time.
Setting: 8/10 – Inspired by Evangelion, but packs more than enough great ideas and details of its own. Could have been more solid, though.

Suggestions:
– Neon Genesis Evangelion
Argento Soma
Darker than Black

43 Responses

  1. RollingCamel says:

    Not exactly the same sort of mecha but how is it in comparison with Last Exile?

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Rollingcamel: to be honest I have no idea, because I’ve yet to see Last Exile.

  3. gandalf8 says:

    @RollingCamel: I think that psgels hasn’t watched Rahxephon yet, but it is on his to-watch list. And I didn’t recall Last Exile having any mecha in it.

    On to the review then. I do agree to a certain extent with your review. My main beef was also with the characters, specifically Ayato and all his angsting. I really felt they stretched it a bit too long portraying his indecisiveness and his mood swings.

    As for the story, even now I still don’t think that I’ve grasped it fully yet. This series is really one of those that needs to be watched once, take a break and let you digest it a bit, then watch it a second time.

    Also, I really suggest watching the movie. Although the movie had a few differences compared to the tv series, I felt that the movie explained the main plot points better, and I understood more of the main story.

    Overall, I would say that this is definitely one of the most intriguing anime that I’ve watched, where you really need to switch on your brain while watching if you want to fully enjoy it.

  4. Meep says:

    For some reason, I really couldn’t get into this one. I’ve had the boxset for years and only managed to watch halfway; now it’s been so long that I have to re-watch it. =P I saw someone mention Last Exile though…no, it’s not mecha, but it’s quite amazing, and it was my favorite anime for a long time. Gorgeous airship battles and interesting characters except that Claus might come off as a little boring at first. xD

  5. Da5id says:

    He posted a review of a show he didn’t watch?

  6. RollingCamel says:

    @gandalf8: I take mecha with a more general view so it covers electromechanical, mechanical and bio machines. The Guild machines were mecha too.

    “I think that psgels hasn’t watched Rahxephon yet”
    Huh?!

  7. gandalf8 says:

    Oops. I meant he hadn’t watch Last Exile yet. But it seems hes already answered that.

  8. Ransom says:

    RahXephon will have a special place in my favorite anime series of all time :)

    I don’t pay too much atention to characters unless it’s a commedy or some type of drama but I certainly enjoy stories and RahXephon had a good story to tell.

  9. Sarynn says:

    To those who didn’t quite grasp what was going on, just check out this link:
    http://www.kenoki.com/nko/faqs.html

    It will explain the backstory of RahXephon where we normally had to guess and fill-in-the-gaps ourselves.

    Of course, if you prefer having your own personal interpretation, ignore that link. :P It was great for me though, I was like “Oooh… that does make sense… WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST SAY SO?? Still, cool story.” Knowing this backstory made my RahXephon rewatch last week even more fun.

  10. Frost says:

    I dropped this halfway through, not a fan of mindfuck and yeah, too much angst (just like Evangelion…)

    Ill take the classic Gundam franchise over “experimental mechas” anyday :P

  11. Watcherzero says:

    The music stays with me, surprised you didnt mention how excellent it was (what with sound being an element of the plot too).

    It is a mind fuck, it does leave unanswered questions and it does have that kind of ending where you yell at the charachters they should have done something differently, however its an amazing tale. Also this isnt called the Evangelion clone for nothing, if you like Evangelion or religious allegory but wished it had higher production values this is the series for you.

  12. Cerrian says:

    I hope you watched it past the credits of the last episodes cause there was a nice scene to conclude the series with.

    As someone else mentioned earlier, you should watch the movie since it retells the story from Haruka’s point of view and greatly develops the relationship between her and Ayato. It is one of the better tv series –> movie conversions that I’ve seen.

    As for Last Exile, you’ve already been reviewing some great classics of late…Maison Ikkoku, Cowboy Bebop, Witch Hunter Robin…might as well add Last Exile to the list.

  13. Puran says:

    So, now that you’ve seen this, are you getting a Rahxephon vibe from the paintings in Star Driver?

  14. Ransom says:

    I agree with Puran! I think I mentioned that in a comment from one of your Star Driver posts.

  15. Somnium says:

    I actually just finished the series, I thought it was well done. The teenagers’ attitudes wore on me, especially since I watched it over the course of just a few days, but all and all I thought it was good. The series uses a a lot of symbolism, which I did like. One scene that really stands out was in the final episode, I won’t go into much detail, but two characters were in a subway station. Another thing that I loved was the emphasis on music, I’m a huge Tolkien fan and I saw an important similarity to a section of The Silmarillion.

    As for Last Exile, the two don’t really compare well. Rahxephon is a heavy drama, while Last Exile’s world is bright and beautiful, not nearly as oppressive as the setting from Rahxephon. Last Exile is more of steampunk styled world with these awesome flying ships. A big part of its plot revolves around the world itself, not the flying ships. It’s been a while since I’ve seen it, but as I don’t think I wouldn’t compare the two series as they have many differences.

  16. Animeguigas says:

    Ah RahXephon.I really liked this show when i watched the 1st time. But at the 2nd time i was just like Sarynn “Oooh… that does make sense… WHY DIDN’T THEY JUST SAY SO?? Still, cool story”, then i started to love this (my favorite mecha anime, and i’ve seen virtually ALL mecha animes out there).

    RahXephon is the only anime i enjoyed much more the 2nd time than the 1st time, mainly because i managed to understand many things that i missed the 1st time i watched (i already rewatched this show 4 times, hell yeah RahXephon).

    Unfortunately this anime will be forever doomed as a clone of EVA (its kinda alike, but for me Rah is superior to EVA; Ayato humiliates whiny Shinji and the end of RahXephon is 1000 times better than EVA’s end) but yeah, this anime is definetely not for everyone, the plot is thick and the lack of good action (the battles are lacksture, don’t watch RahXephon expecting great fights, you ‘ll be disappointed), fanservice, and a straightfoward story (the show will provide the pieces of the story, its up to the viewer to piece them together, so you have to use your brain constantly to understand WTF is going on) will push away many casual watchers.

    I love this anime because almost everything that happens on RahXephon has a purpose, its not like other “mindfuck animes” that makes a bunch of questions without providing us the necessary information for us to drawn our own conclusions.

    And i reccomend (specially you Psgels) to enter at the link Sarynn provided; the information there will clarify many questions that the show didn’t “answered in a clear way” for us viewers.

  17. Julius says:

    Psgels said: “even for my standards this show ended up leaving a bunch of crucial unanswered questions behind.” I disagree. This show answered, at least for me, most of the questions left behind. If you rewatch RahXephon i am preety sure you will agree with my point of view. Just a few questions weren’t ansewed. You’ll see what i am talking about when you visit the site Sarynn provided us.
    The link: http://www.kenoki.com/nko/faqs.html

  18. Hades says:

    NGE is good, but RahXephon is fantastic.

  19. Vanny says:

    Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile.

    I preferred it over Rahxephon (I love them both) but Last Exile’s genre is steam punk, not mecha.
    Beautiful anime and story.

  20. sato says:

    Please watch Last Exile and Kurau now!

  21. jzar says:

    It really was a great show and one of the few I have a box set of. Seeing it here and being reviewed makes me want to go watch it again.

    It really was so much better the EVA but it did look to be inspired by it. So yes many will see it as a clone but as others mention RahXephon is really a stand out story and the art is nothing but awesome.

  22. Chris says:

    Has it really been nine years? Jeez, you’re making me feel old.

  23. Uzir says:

    I always wonder why people said rahxephon is copy of NGE? Other than plot of protagonist change the world,Rahxephon is so much better.For me, it got better design,plot,character development and personality. It just a little bit hard to understand the whole story since it got a complex world and character relationship.
    Need to watch it twice to understand it.

    • Quiddity says:

      Those that call it a copy of NGE for the most part have an ignorance of their mecha anime history. RahXephon is heavily inspired by old Sunrise mecha anime (ex. Brave Raideen), similar to how Evangelion was heavily inspired by old Sunrise mecha anime (Ideon, Gundam, etc…). Because Bones was made up largely of people from Sunrise, it makes total sense.

  24. Westlo says:

    “It’s amazing to think that even in the early days of Bones, they already managed to gather a ridiculous amount of talent. ”

    They really didn’t gather that “talent”, more like Sunrise’s “talented” people left and formed Bones.

  25. RollingCamel says:

    I haven’t seen RahXephon but from the description and art they looked somewhat similar. Mecha or not it doesn’t matter plus in the end someone is piloting something no matter how sophisticated it is.

    On another note, I was ranting before about 3D CG in anime, Last Exile shut me up.

  26. Pax says:

    Most people drop this series because they say it’s a bad Evangelion clone and so on, actually from what information I was able to find RahXephon borrows a lot more from Raideen and Megazone 23, when I say that it borrows I don’t mean it in a bad way, after all even Evangelion borrowed a lot from other anime too. I did not finish RahXephon, watched about 20 episodes a few years ago, I definitely can say I found it to be more enjoyable than Evangelion, I liked the ost better and do I even need to compare Shinji with Ayato?

  27. Gabriel says:

    Okaaaaay! this will be in my watch list this weekend. I’m going to have an anime marathon this weekend?

    http://answers.jpn.com/questions/38/just-finished-my-first-set-of-anime-marathon-can-you-recommend-another-good-one-that-i-can-start-on

    any recommends? like same genre with death note, code gease or something like that?

  28. AKI says:

    “Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile”

    I agree. Last Exile is way much better than RahXephon. And yeah, there ain’t any mecha on Last Exile. Just flying ships and airplanes!

  29. Watcherzero says:

    Well the guild ships are transformable mecha, but its not really a mecha series.

  30. Will says:

    I heard that the show was somehow a carbon copy of Evangelion, how true or false is this statement?

  31. psgels psgels says:

    Will: it’s definitely not a carbon copy. It’s merely inspired by it, in the same way that Evangelion was inspired by the giant robot series. Both have enough of ideas of their own.

  32. Will says:

    That’s good to know. I’ve been watching lots of series with little or not originality whatsoever lately. I think I’ll pick up RahXephon.

  33. AKI says:

    NGE inspired a lot of anime like RahXephon and Gasaraki, which brings to me to question if you have already watched it (Gasaraki)?

  34. B says:

    Yo Gabriel, I confirm that you should have a look at Last Exile …. I will post a note to your “anime marathon” thread

    Any other suggestions?

  35. psgels psgels says:

    AKI: yup, I watched Gasaraki, and liked it even more than Rahxephon.

  36. DangerMouse says:

    “Oh man, you’ve got to watch Last Exile.

    I preferred it over Rahxephon (I love them both) but Last Exile’s genre is steam punk, not mecha.
    Beautiful anime and story.”

    Agreed Vanny, Last Exile is one of my favorite anime of all time. :)

    As sato said Last Exile and Kurau (another really good Bones show) should definitely be watched :)

    Great review of RahXephon, really impressive show and I loved the way they put all their ideas together.

  37. Tan-Tan says:

    Just finished this. Really awesome anime I’d recommend to anyone. It kind of got boring in the second half. That is if you’re sick of all the hold-up to the real plot haha. But the sidestories add to the solidness of the show. Just now a fan of some characters.

  38. Redtail says:

    After 18 episodes I can not watch this anymore. It’s ridiculous.

    Protagonists reason to fight: “Because I can.” Protagonists second reason to fight: “Because I’m here.”

    Are you kidding me? Am I watching a bad translation? And all the unanswered questions, seriously now. THIS THING HAS NO PLOT. IT JUST TUMBLES DOWN THE STAIRS.

  39. Redtail says:

    After 18 episodes I can not watch this anymore. It’s ridiculous.

    Protagonists reason to fight: “Because I can.” Protagonists second reason to fight: “Because I’m here.”

    Are you kidding me? Am I watching a bad translation? And all the unanswered questions, seriously now. THIS THING HAS NO PLOT. IT JUST TUMBLES DOWN THE STAIRS.

  40. Hades says:

    @Redtail

    “And all the unanswered questions, seriously now.”
    You didn’t even had the decency to finish the show so why are you complaining about “unanswered questions”? Maybe if you finish the whole thing you might be able to fill in the blanks like I did. Finish the anime before bashing it dude.

  41. Digi says:

    To be honest , This anime is better than Last Exile and very similar to NGE , Ill still rate it among my top 20 or top 15 , Its a really good show, and it seriously impressed me .
    Star Driver sucks -_- and Last Exile doesnt match up to this, also , Last exile is more like an action adventure show, they really dont compare

  42. garrat Cooper says:

    I’ve got to say that Rahxephon was a big disappointment to me. I’m an avid Eva fan and seeing this was a slog. I wanted gto quit so many times and eve3n though the ending is great I honestly feel like half of this show could have been cut out and it would have had greater impact on me. A lot of the supporting cast seemed superflous and by the time things got real I was nearly disinterested primarily through the lack of tension.

    I like how people say this is better than Eva but this explains less than Eva did, Ayato angts more than Shinji while having fewer problems than him. Also isn’t the main couple incestuous? All of which I’ve seen leveled at Eva at one point or another. But this anime gets a pass on that. Oh well I will say that the final minute of this show puts nearly everything in context.

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For Right of Way, its basically Person A attacks, Person B parries, Person A hits, Person B hits, Person B gets the point because they took right of way with the parry. Saber and Foil both have that, but Epee does not. Epee is simply "Whoever hits the opponent first, doesnt matter where, whole body is target area"
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Theres Saber, Foil and Epee. The main difference is this thing called right of way, but there are other smaller ones like how Saber can hit with the edge and Epee is allowed to hit the entire body, instead of just the chest like Foil
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@Lenlo: that sounds great. From what I know from fencing there are 3 different types of blade right? So what are the differences between them? (Fencing 101 here)
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@SuperMario, Fencing was great. Favorite sport ever and it helped me stay in shape in College. I find Epee to be the best blade, mostly cause I fenced it, but its a very intense 3 minutes. Unlike sports like Soccer and such which is alot of sustained running, Fencing is 3 minutes of Dont-Stop-Moving then wait till next match. Gets really fun once you figure out your own style.
SuperMario
haha, I wouldn't mind either if each episode focus on a single sport/ character/ country. Or even the positive aspects like role models, sports inspirations and stuffs
Lenlo
That Olympic anime sounds great.
Kaiser Eoghan
And it would be a good excuse to have characters of multiple backgrounds included too.
Kaiser Eoghan
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Kaiser Eoghan
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SuperMario
Personally I find Australian football much more exciting than rugby. Or crickets.
SuperMario
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Kaiser Eoghan
Hmm, lets see, sport under-represented in anime? Fencing, golf , Gaelic football, bowling, boat racing.
SuperMario
Hey, fencing is actually really cool. How did you like it Lenlo?
SuperMario
You have your point there Topgavin, as I clearly remember many instances where players' legs, backs or even necks got snapped during rugby's tackles. But in regards to Rugby I never really care about it. That and car racing
Lenlo
Its mostly the type of injuries you get that differ I think. Football you get concussions and broken bones and such, while in Rugby you probably get alot of bruises and cuts. Granted I have played neither, I was a Soccer man in highschool and fencing in College
Lenlo
American football has alot of rules, and really is just a bunch of millionaires running around chasing a ball. Rugby however, as Topgavin said, has no pads so when you get hit you get hit HARD
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Topgavin
@Mario Rugby is more extreme *because* it has no protective gear. No hiding behind helmets and cushioned shoulder pads when ya get bowled over.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm no expert but isn't American football a variation of Rugby? And I believe american football is more extreme, considering they have to wear helmets, protection gears and all that
Lenlo
I dont think theres alot of manga about it because its simply not that popular outside the US. As far as it being a battlefield, eeeeh? Not really? You want a battlefield watch Rugby.
SuperMario
I can think of other cool sports that could be interesting to see in anime: Kick Volleyball (Sepak takraw), Bossaball (combined soccer, volleyball in a trampoline), or in the same vein of skate figures this season, why not pole dancing competition???
Anonymous504493
What other sport is cool and popular that remains original to write about by now? There isn't a lot of manga about it compared to anything else.
Anonymous504493
American football looks like a battlefield with a visible battleline and everything. Id like it if there wasnt so many darn commercials.
Lenlo
I mean, its a sport. Far cry from best, but its definitely a sport.
SuperMario
@Vonter: or maybe because american football IS the best sports ever?
Kaiser Eoghan
@Vonter: Most likely due to the middle section of the original anime being the most popular bit.
Vonter
Can someone explain me how Cobra, is apparently getting an anime around some sort of space american football? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54kNWPr43zE
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Its not safe enough a film for me to properly recommend. Even to exploitation fans, they might find it too slow others would be too sensitive to it. Really una vita violenca, mamma roma, accatone, hawks and sparrows are what Pasolini is really about.
SuperMario
Now that you watched Salo, would you recommend the film to other people? I personally think it's a masterpiece but it's one of the title that I think people would break up with me if I show them this movie
SuperMario
@Kaiser: even him as a director, both Braveheart and Apocalypto don't do much to me, will see if Hacksaw Ridge going to change my mind (but I'm not to fond with war movies in general). La Notte is in my sooon-to-watch list for years, haha
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Mel Gibson as a director, not as an actor =)
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Thats why I prefer the neo-realist/quasi-neo-realism stuff as it deals with the worse off in society. But Antonioni was the master of being able to do films about angsty well-off people, L'aventura, the passenger and La notte for example
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Its not so much that I dislike post 50s fellini moreso I feel that his throw everything at the screen and hope what sticks method can be hit or miss.
SuperMario
While I don't really mind his later stuffs because he was masterclass, I have a pretty hard time for Paolo Sorrentino's later works. The thing is I don't care much about the high class society so everything is just ridiculously over the top and glamour and I'm tired of it.
SuperMario
I haven't watched nights of cabiria but I did watch La Strada and boy, I was sad for few days after watching it. Fellini mentioned that he was inspired to make this movie when seeing a woman pushing a cart from behind. The film really carry that sense throughout its running
SuperMario
Michael Haneke put Salo in his top 10 films. Quite understandable when you think about it. Still for me one of the movie that affected me deeply.
SuperMario
I really admire Elle for its ability to maintain its sharpness because under other inexperienced directors it could easily becomes a mess. Mel Gibson, really? He's one of the few actors that I absolutely dislike
SuperMario
@Kaiser: The Red Turtle remains one of the the most refreshing time I had this year in cinema, but then again I haven't watched much films lately. Agree with you on Sonia's performance, and I still think they could cut out the first 20' of the film because it feels out of place compare to the rest of the film
Kaiser Eoghan
Debating whether to bother catching up on I am a hero or watching the film adaptation. I haven't read it since they got rid of that one female character.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I've a feeling you'll like nights of cabiria, Fellini was cranking out some solidly effective social-realist dramas in the 50s before he fell into self-indulgence.
Kaiser Eoghan
Now I have that sound euphonium compilation film downloaded, I should get to that sometime.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I also finally watched Salo, I ended up meeting it pretty much halfway. Some parts still retain the ability to effect a modern viewer, having seen his other works though its crazy just how different Salo is to them.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Seeing I, daniel Blake tomorrow and rogue one in a few weeks.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I hope Mel Gibson and Isabelle huppert win at the next oscars.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I liked the red turtle for its visual style of storytelling and animation even if I didn't get as emotionally attached to it as others did. I also watched Aquarius nd was pretty much blown away by Sonia Braga's performance. Elle is now one of my favourite Verhoeven films and its a miracle he managed to maintain such a great balance successfully throughout the film.
SuperMario
I don't care for the sequel of Code Geass at all. Why Spice & Wolf still hasn't got season 3 though is what really bugged me. From what I know their manga and LNs are selling very well
Anonymous494677
I wonder why that is...
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, they were always milking code geass though what with those bajillion-million-billion manga spinoffs.
Kaiser Eoghan
Still say I was more fond of the character chemistry in spice and wolf as opposed to everything else.
Kaiser Eoghan
I'll likely pass on the code geass sequel, the memory I have of it has already led to its appeal dimishing for me, I don't want to ruin things further watching an un-neccesary followup. Still avoiding utawerumono's second season for same reasons.
AidanAK47
After all there are things which need sequels and things which don't. And Code Geass never needed a sequel after R2's ending. Giving something a sequel can just ruin the conculsion of the orignal series. Case in point. Eureka Seven Ao. Remember that? Cause you shouldn't. Because it was terrible.
AidanAK47
Honestly I would have preferred Spice and Wolf Season 3.
AidanAK47
So...is anyone gonna mention that Code Geass is getting a sequel?
....Because Code Geass is getting a sequel.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I am watching it as well. But I am a bit behind because I am watching the funimation broadcast dub. It's a very good guilty pleasure. I don't find it quite as funny anymore but it's still pure dumb fun.
SuperMario
@Anon487524: I'm still following it and it still remains a fun show to watch. I love the way they do the fan-servicey completely straight.
Topgavin
@anon I'll admit to watching it. While it is very simple and follows the sport anime formula religiously, it's still a blast to watch every week. This is also helped because you have no expectations for it before watching other than "oh god what's gonna happen this week".
Anonymous487524
Granted, nothing special, just one of those anime whose only worth is being fun to watch without being deep, but Keijo really is fun to watch, easily the best guilty pleasure anime in a long while to me.
Anonymous487524
I started watching it expecting an crappy fanservice anime with nothing of worth, but it ended up being actually pretty fun and awesome to watch.
Anonymous487524
Anyone here seeing Keijo?
SuperMario
What's up with 3-gatsu no Lion? Delayed for a week huh?
Kaiser Eoghan
Checked out Hedeki anno's godzilla re-boot earlier out of curiousity, its a bit plodding/dull at times but sometimes its high camp value played straight is kind of funny, having godzilla evolve during the film was a cool touch and I enjoyed every scene with him and making a Godzilla film today is still very relevant. Not a patch on the old ones though.
Anonymous482380
I think that movie was just so terrible that people made it into a meme. Stuff like "The Entire Bee Movie Except Evey Time They Say 'Bee' The Movie Speeds Up"
Kaiser Eoghan
I'm sorry lmao I had to, it seemed so appropriate a moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU
AidanAK47
Fun Fact: The whole Bees shouldn't be able to fly thing is a myth.
Badesh
I think that was just a dry realization...
AidanAK47
@Topgavin, It's a meme to post the entire script of the bee movie in random places?
....I don't get the joke.
Topgavin
For anyone wondering, I think anon just copy/pasted the entire script for the Bee movie. Memes are goin strong
Anonymous479946
According to all known laws
of aviation,


there is no way a bee
should be able to fly.


Its wings are too small to get
its fat little body off the ground.


The bee, of course, flies anyway


because bees don't care
what humans think is impossible.


Yellow, black. Yellow, black.
Yellow, black. Yellow, black.


Ooh, black and yellow!
Let's shake it up a little.


Barry! Breakfast i
Kaiser Eoghan
Actually I think it was up to about episode ten or so I saw.
Kaiser Eoghan
From what I can recall I watched legend of the galactic heroes somewhere past the part with the Caligula guy.
AidanAK47
That is one thing I wonder about the remake. How are they going to make the space battles interesting? Cause for me theres only so many times you can watch tin boxes shoot lasers and explode.
AidanAK47
I didn't like LOGH until the third episode. That's when it started to catch my attention. It also helps that I have a interest in history as the plot of LOGH practically reads like genuine history.
AidanAK47
In my case the overhype didn't kill it for me as I generally try to avoid that. When I walked into LOGH I was under the impression that it would ahve merit but not be for me. After all I heard it was mostly politics and the politics of Gundam bore me to tears. Funny enough the opposite happened. The space battles bored me but the politics got me really interested.
AidanAK47
@Leahcimali, The problem is that the people who say that something is the best thing they ever seen don't actually mean it. Often it's just hyperbole. When talking we other people fans tend to blow certain things out of proportion unintentionally. Overrated is likely the wrong word but you get what I mean.
leahcimali
@AidankAK47 oh and are you going to write a review about it or because psngel already wrote a review of it you are not gonna write it ?
leahcimali
the problem is trying to rank art . Even comparing a comedy show and a story focus show is clearly impossible. @AidanAK47 do you think the overhype of some hardcore logh fan killed you enjoyment of the show ? Because sometimes when you expect nothing of something you can enjoy it more than when waiting for something incredible.
leahcimali
i hear the same thing from fan of lord of the ring, star wars and game of thrones, star trek ... etc. The hardcore fan of those says that they are the greatest things in history ... but saying there are overated is discrediting the quality of those. Nothing is perfect and again maintening equal quality in a longuer running show is impossible. But having a longer story create a more rich background
LookingForKeys
@Mario Kimi no Na ha is pretty damn good. Watched it while in Japan a couple weeks back. The story has well done surprises, and on the graphics side you can *really* see Production IG worked on it.
leahcimali
I don't think saying logh is overated is a good way to say it. All media with great aclaimed critics or even highly popular show suffer from the fan reaction. If fan claim that it is the best things that they have ever saw and you don't agree, it feels overated. But this is only pure subjectivity. Saying he is greastest thing in history is a way for fan to exprim there love
AidanAK47
However it has been placed on a unreasonable pedestal that nothing could live up to. Eva is sort of in the same boat. So yes it is overrated but that does not mean it isn't great.
AidanAK47
@Leahcimali, if anything is claimed to be the greatest thing in the history of mankind it is overrated. The basic idea that there is a single anime out there which is fundamental and universally better than all other anime regardless of genre or intent is inherently a flawed concept. I do certainly see why LOGH is so highly acclaimed and I believe it is well worth watching.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I didn't look into the details of the new LOGH remake. I was planning on doing that when I am doing an anime season preview for it whenever it's going to air next year. For a long anime it does rate highly but even then I am not certain it really needed all 110 of those episodes.
leahcimali
about your comment are you thinking the LOGH anime is overated ? i ask Because you said that there is plenty of anime you consided better .
Anonymous476875
about the remake won't it be a straight adaptation from the manga remake by the artist that made shiki ?
Anonymous476875
AidanAK47 personally i really loved legend of the galactic heroes and it is one of the anime that make one of the biggest impact on me. I found it the best "long" anime that i ever seen (more than 24 ep). But comparing it to anime with shorter format is a bit hard. you can make something that have perfect pacing in 1h30 but it is impossible with a 110 ep anime.
AidanAK47
Either way I am pretty certain that all other isn't crap to me now seeing as I have seen the so called pinnacle. In fact There are plenty of anime I consider better that LOGH.
AidanAK47
There are aspects of its story which wouldn't really work by today's standards.
AidanAK47
And I did it. I watched legend of the galactic heroes. I have slain the white whale of anime. It certainly was interesting to say the least but I think the remake coming is going to have trouble. I am in between giving it a 8 or a 9 but it's clear that LOGH is very much a product of its time.
Kaiser Eoghan
I didn't really care for this weeks flipflappers, the fanservice and also it was even more trigger than I could take.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Gavin@Mario: I'll get round to your name someday but I think this might be my last chance with shinkai.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: That disgaea review made me nostalgic because I remember my friends and I playing it back when it first came out. We found it difficult but were amused by it/liked the characters.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Are the manga posts exclusively for series with only a few chapters translated or series that came out in the past year or so? I've been reading gunka no balthazar and enjoying it enough and think it should get recommendation out there.
Topgavin
Just booked tickets to go see it on Sunday with my little sister. Was surprisingly reluctant but I know she'll like it, I've already seen it but pumped either way.
SuperMario
Your name movie has been showed theatrically here in Aus, I'm planning to rewatch it soon in theatre and then do a review on it. Is that alright with other admins?
SuperMario
so I guess the top 6 will advance to the final are: Otabek Altin (Kazakhstan), Giacometti (Switzerland), Yuri, Yurio, JJ and Phichit? Will be very cool final event haha
SuperMario
At the very least Yuri on Ice shows me how entertaining ice skating can be
SuperMario
@K-Off: have a good trip ahead K-Off. Well, it's still better than Japan (earthquake) I guess
K-Off
Well, heading to Korea tomorrow. What a time to go. In the middle of Korea's biggest financial scandal since the 80s.
Lenlo
Is it just me, or does the Yuri on Ice opening get more colorful and detailed every week?
SuperMario
Badesh, if you like to check out their other songs, give "Tunnels of Love" and "Romeo & Juliet" a listen. Though I just discovered Telegraph Road quite recently, those 2 songs are qmong my all time favorite
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