Posted by psgels on 4 April 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews, Star Driver




Out of all the series that premiered during the past Autumn 2010 season, Star Driver stood above the others, promising an epic mecha story; completely original, not based on anything and animated by Bones. It really looked to be the classic of the season. In the end though, that did not happen, but it still has enough to like.

It’s a series that combines school life with over the top mecha battles. It has quite a large cast of characters, all of which it tries to flesh out. And to be honest, it does a pretty good job there. Star Driver’s cast is fresh and dynamic, and the characters that do get the chance to show their stories are well fleshed out and interesting to watch. The school life moments make this a fun and cheerful show to watch, with a good balance between drama and light-hearted stuff.

Where Star Driver falls down is in its ambition. It both tried to have a huge story and cast, and tried to take its time and make this an enjoyable slow paced storyline. It just didn’t manage to do both and instead of focusing on one, both ended up a bit too unfinished. The story knows how to build up to to its final climax. In fact the final episode is excellent in how it brings a lot of build up from the entire series together. But at the same time there are a ton of plot devices that it never uses, the story is full of plotholes, and half the cast never gets its time in the spotlight, leaving them kindof wasted and especially making the scenes that focus on them rather pointless.

The nasty thing here is that tar Driver could have become an utter classic if it had more episodes. It’s good, but it has left a ton of potential lying around by not being able to focus on everything, and focusing on too many characters (even though it created a good reason for trying to do so). The mecha battles also get less and less interesting as time goes on. Both because in the end they serve no real purpose to the storylines, but also because of how they just get more and more repetitive.

So does that make this series worth watching in the end? I’d say that it does. It definitely has a great storyline and characters; it’s just not as good as what it could have been. The creators did succeed into creating a fun and original series to watch and keep you busy, interested and excited. Just don’t expect anything amazing.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Tries to do too much in too little time and ends up unbalanced because of it, but it still is able to write good scenarios and climaxes.
Characters: 9/10 – Takuto never really established himself as an excellent lead character, but there are quite a few excellent side-characters here. And the cast is very versatile just consistently interesting to watch.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Amazing looking mecha battles and soundtracks, with the animation outside of the mecha battles being quite good as well.
Setting: 8/10 – A bit incomplete, but it’s definitely inspired and original, and requires a lot of reading inbetween the lines.

Suggestions:
Revolutionary Girl Utena
Macross Frontier
Baccano

19 Responses

  1. synkronized says:

    I know it’s a typo but “Tar Driver” seems oddly apt for parts of the series.

  2. Puran says:

    Yeah, I kind of imagined the battles in the series with the robots covered in tar for a bit there :)

    Anyway, this was a good series. It had more than a couple of excellent moments, but also a lot that at least initially made no sense.

    In the end, the final episode really used a lot of elements that the series had, even things you thought would be useless. The series knew exactly what it was building up to and what it was building up was interesting. And, the ending isn’t rushed. Really, it does a lot of things and it’s fun, a lot of things happen, but they make sense. It is completely missing an epilogue, but what was there wasn’t rushed.

  3. Oersted says:

    I don’t think it had any ambition at all. There were great ideas, potential characters, interesting backgrounds to cover, but no… let’s just head for the easy way and put as much silliness as possible: a perfect main character which simply is awesome, some pretty lazy action scenes, characters appearing at random just to be rendered useless after that.

    Anyway, this gets a 6/10 for me. Some parts, such as the ending, were really good, but I won’t fool anyone saying “I loved it and strongly recommend it to you”, which is not true. There are too many stuff I can’t ignore.

  4. Riyoga says:

    Before the final the final episode aired, someone on the staff was saying on Twitter something along the lines of, “This isn’t necessarily the end…” It could be nothing, but who knows?

    If they make a movie, I’ll hand-deliver my wallet to them.

  5. Ncrdrg says:

    O_O…

    And here I was thinking that Star Driver was far too long. It lost its direction and focus far too many times following a big awesome episode.

    There were many filler-like episodes that served very little purpose too. Personally, I think Star Driver would have been much better served with 15-16 episodes.

  6. Ncrdrg says:

    Oh… yes, I should elaborate a little bit I guess.

    Star Driver had an amazing art style, gorgeous animation and great soundtrack… but that’s all I can really say about it. There were a few awesome moments (Mizuno arc, theater play episode) but some truly awful and completely useless episodes.

    When looking at a non-comedy show, I take a glance and try to recap the main story.
    When I try to do that for Star Driver… it doesn’t look pretty. Generally, I don’t bother complaining about plot holes but the series built up a lot of things… and delivered on very few of them. Like the reason why so many joined the secret society (World Domination? lol wut?, the meaning behind Head being Takuto’s father? Shock value?), why those secret powers exist, plenty of crucial stuff like that went unexplained because it wasted its time on goofy episodes.

    I rank Star Driver as 7.5. Flashy and entertaining show but with very little substance. If the art/animation/soundtrack wasn’t so impressive, this would be between 5 and 6 because the story was a complete mess.

  7. m says:

    Ncrdrg, I’m a little busy today so I don’t have a lot of time to play ‘someone is wrong on the Internet.’ Don’t be too put off by the absence of editing, and forgive me for cobbling it together in spare minutes here and there.

    Star Driver was a comedy, or rather a comedic drama. If you took the show seriously, you lost. Looking briefly at your MAL, assuming you use a persistent moniker, I see that you gave Black Lagoon a 10, which leads one to presume that you are familiar with a mingling of styles and do not necessarily hold such activity in disrepute. Specifically somewhat serious material and humor (though the humor is blacker in Black Lagoon). If Black Lagoon were taken seriously it would be dumber, though longer, than the typical action film series, which is not a genre of film known for its wit. Its characters are either idiot psychopaths or sly snake psychopaths that frequently dodge bullets and rockets and so forth.

    If you were familiar with Utena or Princess Tutu, and maybe watched an older super robot show (my condolences if you watch one of those…) you might have a better frame of reference for how it works and what it’s poking at.

    Beyond its magic super robot camp high school drama club pastiche, the story is mostly a coming of age story. The characters all have different motivations for their participation in the show, but broadly, many of them are pre-occupied with events in the past and struggle with developing as people, plus for fun, their id. You see in the contrast between their daily lives, their night lives, and their introspective moments struggles between who they appear to be, who they think they want to be, and what it turns out they really want when they are forced to make a choice. None of them seem particularly interested in taking over the world, not even Tokio who is really looking to freeze the world like one of his paintings, so that he can relive all of those precious moments forever. He just doesn’t care that living in the past comes at the cost of the future, because he’s selfish.

    I don’t have time to write about every character, but let’s just take a few.

    Benio didn’t care about taking over the world, though she has an affinity for power. She was motivated to belong to the Crux to regain prestige for her family, who lost its mark, and because she has an infatuation with its ultimate target, Sugata. She’s also a teenage girl with, apparently, a raging libido, and once she possesses a little power, she also plays a little at collecting boys, and being a little catty to a former friend/love rival. She becomes an early example of the corrupting influence of power. After her initial defeat she’s then motivated by her pride to try to defeat Takuto, but as the activities of the Crux begin to go too far, we see that she also struggles with continuing her Crux persona.

    George and Tetsuya don’t even care about the Crux as far as I can tell, they are just proud and love Benio. Their childishness wanes before hers.

    Marino, obviously, didn’t care about taking over the world. She was in the Crux to protect Mizuno. She was basically a piece of Mizuno’s psyche broken off to protect Mizuno, who was stuck in a perpetual childhood. (It’s actually funny how many people that don’t like the show pop up to mention how they prefer Mizuno to Wako, when Mizuno was clearly stunted emotionally…)

    Midori’s initial motivation in belonging to the Crux can be best understood in terms of understanding who she is: a woman who never grew up that sees her peak in her high school years. Her motivation for joining the Crux comes from her need to find employment that satisfies her desire to be around teenage boys, and likely came as a consequence of the Crux’s motivation for hiring her to work at the school in the first place. She’s a brilliant scientist that just happens to be something of a woman-child. That her research allowed her the ability, briefly, to try to live out her fantasies, was probably her motivation for a long time.

    Hideki, obviously, Did It For Science.

    Simone was in it for vengeance.

    I really don’t have time to do all of these, but if you watch the show and can’t piece together motivations both from their outward statements and introspective conflicts, I am befuddled. It’s Not That Hard.

    Just remember that the show’s a playful gag full of sexual innuendo set on a stage prepared for a more general audience that night time anime with callbacks to old super robot shows and such for the older audience.

    I may have a more coherent comment about the show latter, when I’ve more time and don’t have to bang it out via VNC.

  8. Puran says:

    I can agree with it having some useless episodes. But awful? Even the worst moments of the show were entertaining. And a lot of plotlines/characters (seemingly) didn’t go anywhere, but they weren’t bad.

  9. esha25 says:

    Well this was the best(?) of a pretty disappointing winter season. But this anime had no ending? I mean nothing was resolved.

    I guess I it is getting another season?

  10. e36 says:

    I mean nothing was resolved.

    You mean aside from the fact that both Wako and Sugata are no longer burdened by their curse of their marks and can write their own futures instead of following the one arranged by their ancestors and their parents.

  11. Denizen says:

    Star Driver is one of my favourite shows of recently, but I feel it excelled in that whilst it obviously dropped the ball on certain parts, there was an abundance in its other parts that it still ended up being a superb show, in my opinion. You only have to inject a drop of its creativity and devotion into another show and it would improve immensely. It was only the episodes preceding Mizuno’s departure that weighed the show down significantly.

    It’s rough at the edges, but it has just so much to like, and it’s something I would easily recommend to people. I’ve been worrying about Bones recently, but they seem to be picking things up.

  12. SquareSphere says:

    Agree that it was a solid show that could have been a classic. From my stand point it’s the only series in recent memory that compares to Escaflowne in appeal to both shojo and shonen.

    Obviously, just like Esca it went down the shojo route, and had crazy plot devices, though Esca did tie up most of the important plot threads.

    Honestly, to me the only major plot thread missed in Star Driver were the “fish people” that the pres/vice pres of the drama club were a part of. Could the Maidens have used more fleshing out? How about Head’s background, not to mention how Tauburn came to be? Sure.

    But the ending of SD didn’t have to resort to Issac Newton, wishing machines, and destiny alternated transgender villains.

    But the music in both series was FANTASTIC! I’m shocked how many reviews I’ve read just gloss over the music of Star Driver.

    Great review though, and a very reasonable score.

  13. Kira says:

    Star Driver was a show that for most of the time felt like it was going nowhere. A show with so much potential that never reached the level it could of.

    The battles were repetitive and far too much time was spent on pointless filler episodes that contributed little to the plot.

    Instead of introducing new characters each episode the director should of worked on fleshing out the main ones.

    To be fair though, the animation and art were of a high standard and it had a fantastic soundtrack.

    I was excited about the show when it started(Studio BONES makes a mecha show which combines elements of Gurren Lagann and Code Geass with an star cast and crew of anime veterans, count me in!) and I think some anime fans will like it but it wasn’t my cup of tea.

    I think people who are interested should watch the first four episodes and if you like it continue, if you’re unsure you should probably drop it.

  14. SJCrew says:

    “I think people who are interested should watch the first four episodes and if you like it continue, if you’re unsure you should probably drop it.”

    It’s funny you mention that, because it’s both a spot on comment, and the exact point at which I felt Star Driver would be a pretty good series and worth my time. I’m only halfway through it at this point, but as far as I can tell, Star Driver doesn’t seem to be in any rush to prove me wrong and my interest only seems to grow with each episode.

  15. Hades says:

    Whoa, an 85/100 for this pathetic mecha show?
    Seriously, if you’re looking for a serious mecha show, watch Neon Genesis Evangelion and RahXephon. Both have far more story and better characters.

  16. Digi says:

    you gave it 85/100 ??? are you nuts, this show was one of the worst things I ever watched, till episode 10, it was good, but then , no story , no plot, no character development, no good romantic theme, nothing , n the fucking repeatitive battles again and again , sucks , i wasted my time on this

  17. Jac says:

    I agree with the 85/100. Bottom line is, this was a fun show to watch. The plotline is a lot more complex than apparently a lot of the nay-sayers here can handle; they don’t serve everything up to you on a plate but give subtle hints that make you work it out on your own, and reading http://ninteenpointzerofour.wordpress.com/star-driver/ helps. If you’re a Michael Bay fan, this is not for you.

  18. GlassShadow says:

    I find most Bones concepts need 50+ episode to fully develop. It’s almost becoming an inherent flaw in all their productions. I can’t remember the last time a Bones show actually managed to utilize its potential. Hell, it’s still my favorite studio for so many reasons, but I do wish they could pace themselves a little better.

  19. I know this series ended a while ago but I recently marathoned through this and just have to say I love the soundtrack of this series. The epic string songs such as the songs all of the shrine maidens sing( the apprivosier versions) sound amazing and are the newest additions to my Japanese playlist

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That you slightlySuper-erMario and superwooper!
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And my reaction to the show is such, that I enjoyed it enough to make such a huge pot about it.
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Also I want Akari to be my mom and Hina is adorable without being annoyingly so and Kana Hanazawa is doing a good job voicing her.

And whoever said it is right, the op/ed songs are worth listening to, for once I’m not skipping them.
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At this point it feels as if by the end of the series I’ll come off it thinking that I don’t want to say goodbye to these characters.
I don’t think as of just yet it complete lives up to honey and clovers legacy though.
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I never cared about Harunobu initially, but recent episodes have changed this.
Dull parts of the manga are easier to get through for me in the anime due to Shaft elevating the material with one of the better uses of their visual gimmicks.
Giving the series another chance, even though I won’t fully embrace the humour, it does now and then manage to make me laugh a little.
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The bullying arc centering on Hina and the shows treatment of it is better than most anime bullying stories and has provided the most emotionally rewarding aspect of the show.
Characters that are assholes like Kyouko’s boyfriend, Kyouko herself I’m finding somewhat more sympathetic and want to see more to their personal drama.
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However I do genuinely think that the series does a good job of allowing dramatic moments to creep up on the viewer, that early scene of Hina crying over her mother, Rei’s family flashbacks, Akari’s concerns about Hina/the stuff with her dad, all the scenes with Kyouko do carry an effective and solid dramatic weight to them.
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Through jumping back and forth between the anime and manga, I can say I have no caught up to where I will now watch March comes like a lion on a weekly basis.
Anonymous1636224
The blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki
Anonymous1636224
Mmmmmm the suffering of all those innocent people feeding his God boner, this is why I love Inuyashiki
Lenlo
Oh yeah, thats not a knock against it. Just noting they dont *need* much animation
SuperMario
Well, the nature of Mahoutsukai is slow-burned, so it makes sense they focus more on static, quiet moments
Lenlo
Was that blade 2022 thing supposed to be an example? Because I wasnt a fan. It was stylish sure, but difficult to follow.
Lenlo
Maho is a good looking show, I wouldnt call it a great animated show.
Lenlo
The issue for me is, theres just not alot being animated most of the time. Usually its a pretty slow moving anime, so most of its time is talking and still shots. It doesnt need alot of animation, so it doesnt have it.
Lenlo
@Niel, I think Mahoutsukai can have good animation when it wants to. Like the water viel in episode 10 looked good (Though im not sure how much of that was after effects)
Anonymous1635607
uhhh creepy
Anonymous1635589
the blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki so much
Amagi
I think the security is the same as here, it's just that Japanese people are less likely to rip stuff (correct me if I am wrong). It seems like ripped anime, manga and so on are basically always uploaded by Americans, Chinese people or someone else.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised heavens feel was camripped I thought security in japanese theatres was stronger.
Amagi
Yeah it's also screening in Germany, I will watch it in February, together with Heaven's Feel, Mutafukaz, Kimikoe and a few others.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*on Europa cinema
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nanoha new film to screen next February in the US, come in Europa license it for over here dammit....
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did have some down moments though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I guess contrasting Luke with his old self goes some way.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Saw the preview screening of the new star wars, still feel the new trilogy stands inbetween the originals and prequels, fufills its duty as a *** star blockbuster , some genuinely hilarious high camp moments, awful tokenism, Snoke is a shit villain, but two scenes with Luke actually have a pathos to them and I liked the chase/action scenes when they happened. Nobody cares about the acting/dialogue
AidanAK47
But there are times when it goes way too far and you can barely make out what is even supposed to be happening. Or characters go so off model that they are unrecognizable. It can be immersion breaking. Much like uncanny CGI.
AidanAK47
@Niel, I do agree that it's annoying to see people complain about animation when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Like those inbetween frame screenshot people. But I will say I appreciate on model characters more so than chaotic movement. When the off model stuff suits the tone of the scene like that blade runner part, then it's fine.
niel
I also don't want to see someone imply visual=animation for the hundredth time. Are people really that ignorant of the technical/artistic aspect of the media they consumed?
niel
It just depends on what works best in given scene and the aesthetic they want to go for. People can complain all they want about off-model stuff, but if they really only want that the they won't be getting nearly as much of those impactful scenes as there are now. So many of the ways people complain about it is really irking to me.
niel
normal/low action scenes is different from being on-model during the action sequences and just the ones that need some extra impact in general. https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ?t=6m45s
niel
But that depends on the situation though. And I'd argue that being consistent and on-model during
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter/Niello/Mario: Ideally I want it both ways, fluid animation AND consistent model visuals, all the while never sacrificing choreography.
SuperMario
But really, who am I to say. I'm the dude who prefer beautiful shot composition myself
SuperMario
The same can be said with Shinkai's movies since he always prefers static, beautiful shot that people tend to overlook that his animation is quite poorly handled
Vonter
You're right, but art direction does alleviate limited animation, I mean the old Berserk anime, kinda has a lot of slideshow moments. MahoYome has nice backgrounds, and despite the samey faces, at the very least doesn't come from the same mold as other series. Still cutting corners with chibi segments is was a mistake.
SuperWooper
Is it any wonder that people prefer things to be static/on-model? They want to see characters who look consistent and familiar so they can relate to them.
Nie
MahoYome being the biggest offender of people getting triggered to any kind of statement about the show's animation not being good. And it's absurd because the show's animation really isn't great at all. It's good with distracting people with pretty pictures, but animation-wise it's still mediocre.
Nie
@SuperMario: Not much. Just stuff like "Art is part of the animation weather it's beautiful backgrounds or just amazing looking characters. It's not all about how they move. If it was, CG would be considered great animation" multiple times. I've just been finding myself being replied with these kinds of comment non-stop since the start of the season.
SuperMario
@Niello: What happened exactly, if you don't me asking?
Nielllo
If I hear someone says AMB has good animation one more tie I might actually lose it. It's amazing how people who apparently know nothing about it try to defend this and other people who don't know anything are actually supporting the guy.
Niello
So with Fate Apocrypha episode 22 out, I'm just now learning that people think webgen style is horrible and they prefer static scenes with pretty visual over actual quality animation. WTF. I can't comprehend this. Are casual people who watch animation in general really that oblivious to the art they have been watching?
Lenlo
Berserks Dynasty Warriors style game looked better. Also, Mahoutsukai should be up tonight/tomorrow. Turns out, Christmas is a busy time of year at this job.
Amagi
*worse
Amagi
Especially when you consider how good CGI can be by now, look at Houseki or Kado. But Berserk was the worst thing I saw in years, many scenes felt worst than sequences of PSX games
Amagi
@SuperMario: Same. I love Kon and also consider Paprika's OST as the best. @Lenlo: Me too. I honestly even enjoyed the movies but the new series was atrocious
Lenlo
HIRASAWAAAA! HAAAAAI YOOOOO.
I miss the 90s Berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was also quite fond of his soundtracks for Berserk. AIIIIIYE FORCES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
SuperMario
@Amagi: I'm a big fan of Kon so I've watched everything from his. Even bought a book about his works. About the soundtrack, I listened to them as well but not regularly, compare to pprika OST which I downloaded and listen to a lot
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although not completely a manga, Usagi yojimbo also has an anthro character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Millennium actress is partially inspired by the actress Setsuko Hara.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: The anthro-animal manga is even a topseller as far as I know. Haven't looked into it yet, though. Maybe I will do so.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I am still hoping Dream Machine will happen some day. Kon died believing it would happen
Amagi
@SuperMario: Have you tried the other Kon movies like Millennium Actress once? Thought they were really good and Hirasawa is responsible for the OST there too. Or Paranoia Agent which was (IMO) very good as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nttSKBJ38k (OP)
Niello
Eoghan: Enjoy... ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't read this, its very strange to see a manga about full anthro animal characters: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Beastars
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
Niello
@Kaiser, That's unexpected.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I enjoyed how outright surreal Arakawa was.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: It bothers me that they're stuffing multiple tales into single episodes.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, excel saga, I wonder what I would think of it now, its been years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I actually respect Aidan's coverage of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Yes that edgy villain kid in COTWs was annoying though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: I don't care much for the male character that leads some of the episodes in this new adaptation.
@Niello: Its a non-mainstream shoujo that isn't set in a school, moves at a quick enough pace and has some nice background art/chara design, I grew up on shoujo fantasy manga also so theres that.
Amagi
I mean there are parts I like. I enjoyed the first episode, and the part about the country of liars. But many other things annoy me and the last episode was the worst. I also feel like the edgy bomb loli and slapstick Kino don't fit to the rest of the show somehow. Maybe I forgot everything, but the "old" Kino felt like a better character to me somehow, this one is more faithful to the LNs though
Amagi
@Kaiser: I honestly gave up on Kino and I think it's only partly the fault of the new series. I am just so tired of how stupid most of the episodic-characters are unless their are friends of Kino, how everyone gets bent being irredeemable evil for plot's sake and how everything Kino and her friends do gets justified. Maybe I am just too old or boring for this fairy tail like moral bending.
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