Posted by psgels on 23 April 2011 with categories: X-Men




This episode had two action scenes. And BY GOD where they excellent! This episode had a number of some people from the animation team of Birdy the Mighty Decode on it, and it really showed. The X-Men is a perfect series for these people to show their talents. These scenes were raw and brutal, and drawn with a ton of force and movement. Definitely the best action scenes of this series yet.

The last episode left me rather disappointed by that “fluids”-guy, but at the very least this episode really gave him a great action scene to close off. But Wolverine’s aerial fight against that flying mutant was awesome as well. More episodes like this, please!

As for the story, that also was quite neatly developed further, when Emma Frost of all people turned out to have a second mutation. The creators made good use of the fact that that one bad guy didn’t show himself in keeping the suspicions around her. These mutants with this second mutation are at the moment far more interesting than the U-Men, but let’s see what this series can do when it starts to develop these people in its second half.

Oh, and I also cracked up at Wolverine playing snooker.
Rating: ** (Excellent)

20 Responses

  1. Brink says:

    I really don’t like the lil girl she is annoying and way to clingy.

  2. Michael says:

    I actually completely disagree with what you said about the action scenes. Yes, the first one was quite good, but the second one was so dark that I actually couldn’t see a thing. Maybe the gamma was off on the video I watched, but that scene in particular was unwatchable for me.

  3. Nark Narks says:

    There was some QUALITY animation in the last bit of the episode. Probs blew the the budget in the fights.
    But Generally decent as always which i’m very happy with

  4. Algent says:

    In the fight with the fluid guy Armor did had some poor quality and weird way of moving.

    The mid-air fight with wolverine seem to be good but I couldn’t see a thing.

  5. Loz says:

    I also couldnt tell what what going on during that aerial battle.

    And was it just me or was the Wolverine soundtrack playing during that fight?

  6. EINSOF says:

    Wolverine had me Rolling too. looks like this series is going to do alot of building of the setting and characters before it really picks up. which is good since i dont know if everyone in japan know about the Xmen setting.

  7. H-MudAnimation says:

    Wow, the animation is this episode was so awful I’m considering fiving up on this show. The first 3 episodes where beautifully done, but this episode was the antithesis of the first three. As a professional animator I can understand rushed budgets and deadlines, but for such a huge variation in quality there is no excuse. I thought I was watching rough storyboard animations for fight sequences, every character was a fluid blob in this episode.

    They tried to hide their lack quality by simply darkening the entire action sequences so you couldn’t see the horrendous animation, but that in itself made many parts of the episode unwatchable.

    This really makes me sad, I was thoroughly enjoying this anime and had previously raved about its animation and visuals; but now I have to rescind all of my compliments.

    Really a shame, there is no excuse for such an awful inconsistency in quality.

  8. Roldan says:

    @H-MudAnimation you do know this is from the same guys that did the animation for Birdy the Mighty Decode and Noein? I mean if you were an “animator” you’d see that the fluidness and the motion really heightens up in a different way then most anime/cartoons do which makes it look incredibly awesome. Though for the untrained eye, it probably looked like shit but in reality it’s a very hard but satisfying move they did there. And if you want more credibility, some from this episodes have also done key animation for Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood.

  9. Demi says:

    I couldn’t see a thing as well…
    The fighting scenes in this episode was just bad… seems like a muddle through…

  10. H-MudAnimation says:

    YOu clearly don;t understand that the animation you liked in burdy decode was actually animation that was rushed through because they ran out of both time and money; this is a near universal compalint about that series. While the first several episodes of that series had excellent animation, many of the episodes reverted to rough animation usuing a technique commonly reffered to blobbing.

    The animation in Birdy the Mighty: Decode fluctuates between sheer beauty and dull, loose drawing…the animation does dip every now and then and looks slightly cheap”

    http://psgels.net/2009/03/28/birdy-the-mighty-decode-2-review-95100/
    “Did anyone else notice how the animation quality uber crapped out…”

    http://thenullset.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/birdy-the-mighty-decode-review/
    “Cons: animation quality, particularly the characters, was inconsistent; various minor things that could have been done better”

    http://muirwoods.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/birdy-the-mighty-decode-02-after-episode-01-first-impressions/
    This second season of Birdy the Might Decode picks up where the first season left off… To my chagrin, the animation quality did not improve at all and remains crude.”

    BTMD 1&2 Had some of the most horribly inconsistent quality in animation I have also ever seen. YOu seem to confuse the fluid bloblike state of the characters during action sequences as good animation…not everyone has an eye for artistic merit, expecially not for animation quality.

  11. H-MudAnimation says:

    Here I made my previous post prettier:

    You clearly don’t understand that the animation which you liked in BTMD was actually animation that was rushed through because they ran out of both time and money. You seem to be a fan actually of poor animation, perhaps you like the strange unatural fluid effect it creates…i don’t know why you like poor animation. Inconsistent animatin quality in BTMD 1&2 was a near universal compalint about the series from the vast majority of both proffesional review sites, and blogs alike. While the first several episodes of that series had excellent animation, many of the episodes reverted to rough animation usuing a technique commonly reffered to blobbing.

    http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/35951/birdy-the-mighty-decode-mighty-awesome

    …the animation style during some of the action was a bit annoying since for some of the scenes they had a full action already drawn (I saw it in a beginning of an earlier episode), but it was never used, I am guessing because they changed the story mid-draw so it couldn’t be used. This would also explain the poor animation during these parts. Its like they used story board slides and just animated it out, which if they shifted gears mid production may of been required to make deadlines.

    The animation in Birdy the Mighty: Decode fluctuates between sheer beauty and dull, loose drawing…the animation does dip every now and then and looks slightly cheap”

    http://psgels.net/2009/03/28/birdy-the-mighty-decode-2-review-95100/

    “Did anyone else notice how the animation quality uber crapped out…”

    http://thenullset.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/birdy-the-mighty-decode-review/

    “Cons: animation quality, particularly the characters, was inconsistent; various minor things that could have been done better”

    http://muirwoods.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/birdy-the-mighty-decode-02-after-episode-01-first-impressions/

    This second season of Birdy the Might Decode picks up where the first season left off… To my chagrin, the animation quality did not improve at all and remains crude.”

    BTMD 1&2 Had some of the most horribly inconsistent quality in animation I have also ever seen…and unfortunately X-Men is carrying on this tradition.

    You seem to confuse the fluid bloblike state of the characters during action sequences as good animation. This is the type of animation usually used for storyboarding because it be done so cheaply and quickly it provides a great demonstration of what the scene will look like once full detailed character animations are used. It is not acceptable animatin for a public release.

    Not everyone has an eye for artistic merit, expecially not for animation quality. Apparently you do not. Typically people such as your self are very poort artiststs, and are unable to see the lines that make up a image or drawing; therefor that causes them to be poor artists. I’m not trying to be mean, but you are mistaken and I’m trying to make you understand.

  12. HarveyMuddAnimation says:

    Rewritten comment, Part 1:

    So, Here I made my previous post prettier:

    You clearly don’t understand that the animation which you liked in BTMD was actually animation that was rushed through because they ran out of both time and money. You seem to be a fan actually of poor animation, perhaps you like the strange unatural fluid effect it creates…i don’t know why you like poor animation. Inconsistent animatin quality in BTMD 1&2 was a near universal compalint about the series from the vast majority of both proffesional review sites, and blogs alike. While the first several episodes of that series had excellent animation, many of the episodes reverted to rough animation usuing a technique commonly reffered to blobbing.

    http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/35951/birdy-the-mighty-decode-mighty-awesome

    …the animation style during some of the action was a bit annoying since for some of the scenes they had a full action already drawn (I saw it in a beginning of an earlier episode), but it was never used, I am guessing because they changed the story mid-draw so it couldn’t be used. This would also explain the poor animation during these parts. Its like they used story board slides and just animated it out, which if they shifted gears mid production may of been required to make deadlines.

    The animation in Birdy the Mighty: Decode fluctuates between sheer beauty and dull, loose drawing…the animation does dip every now and then and looks slightly cheap”

    http://psgels.net/2009/03/28/birdy-the-mighty-decode-2-review-95100/
    “Did anyone else notice how the animation quality uber crapped out…”

    http://thenullset.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/birdy-the-mighty-decode-review/
    “Cons: animation quality, particularly the characters, was inconsistent; various minor things that could have been done better”

  13. HarveyMuddAnimation says:

    … Part 2

    http://muirwoods.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/birdy-the-mighty-decode-02-after-episode-01-first-impressions/

    This second season of Birdy the Might Decode picks up where the first season left off… To my chagrin, the animation quality did not improve at all and remains crude.”

    BTMD 1&2 Had some of the most horribly inconsistent quality in animation I have also ever seen…and unfortunately X-Men is carrying on this tradition.

    You seem to confuse the fluid bloblike state of the characters during action sequences as good animation. This is the type of animation usually used for storyboarding because it be done so cheaply and quickly it provides a great demonstration of what the scene will look like once full detailed character animations are used. It is not acceptable animatin for a public release.

    Not everyone has an eye for artistic merit, expecially not for animation quality. Apparently you do not. Typically people such as your self are very poor artists, and are unable to see the lines that make up a image or drawing; therefor that causes them to be poor artists. I’m not trying to be mean, but you are mistaken and I’m trying to make you understand.

  14. psgels psgels says:

    Harvey: aplologies. Blogsome has this nasty tendency to hold long comments with links in it upf ro moderation. I’ve approved your comment now.

    If you don’t like Birdy’s animation, that’s fine. Personally, I place interesting animations and movement above fluidity and crisp art in my priorities, but I can understand that others have different opinions. But it goes a bit far to say that Birdy’s animation is a near universal complaint. I’ve seen enough other people who loved it as well.

    Oh, but you are right about one thing: I am a poor artist. I never was good at it.

  15. H-MudAnimation says:

    By the way this quote from toonzone.com is exactly what I was saying:

    the animation style during some of the action was a bit annoying since for some of the scenes they had a full action already drawn (I saw it in a beginning of an earlier episode), but it was never used, I am guessing because they changed the story mid-draw so it couldn’t be used. This would also explain the poor animation during these parts. Its like they used story board slides and just animated it out, which if they shifted gears mid production may of been required to make deadlines.

  16. H-MudAnimation says:

    oh thanks for the explanation psgels about me having to post over and over.

    BTW Harvey Mudd is the renound technology school where I studied animation, not my name. Im Joe.

  17. Hogart says:

    Frankly, I would have loved to see some Birdy-style “animation” in this episode. I was too disoriented by the darkness and shaky camera (did it just have too many espressos, or was Japan still experiencing aftershocks on the night of that shoot?). What I did see was cutting corners badly, so I agree with Joe and others in this case.

    But Joe.. give him a break. psgels watches a ton of anime, and it wasn’t necessarily the “animation” he liked in Birdy.. it was well-storyboarded, framed, made great use of contrast, and obviously had a budget far too small to get the job done. If you’re going to be that upset over it, I wonder how you survive while watching most anime. Does the average Shaft show make you vomit up blood?

  18. rever5e says:

    the action part was great, second scene was too dark though, but still exciting to watch

    animation beside the action pretty average, but screw that only action sequence worth to be good

    need more action like this

  19. Espana says:

    If you’re looking for an action movie, with little progress in the story line, then just stick to old X-Men films. But if you want a detailed, action packed movie…with SUPERB acting…then watch this one. And you will NOT be dissapointed.

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Lenlo
Well, Mikio's gear was upgrading to V5 we saw, so it may not be as easy as we think. That said, I just want Gear to be relevant. It really feels like just a gimmick to me so far and Mikio could maybe change that, since his is so important
AidanAK47
Oh and I got two card drops, both of which were Shanas.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, I still need to grind up the damage points. I am close and planning to get it before Rider day ends. But Banana Oni is the hardest challege this game has ever given. And fighting her is always a gamble.
Amagi
Yeah it was a good move. Really want to see how Mikio will fight without the advantage he had till now.
Kaiser-Eoghan
This weeks episode of megalobox gave an added importance to him being gearless .
Amagi
Now that I got the 300mio damage in FGO I finally get card drops that I don't need anymore
AidanAK47
@Masky, I believe I told you to watch Fate/Zero and apologize.
Masky
@AidanAK47 three days ago: Harsh words :D
Kaiser-Eoghan
I do echo the frustration though with shows you like not getting enough episodes. And then there are of course shows where I wonder, did they really need so many episodes/seasons.
Anonymous2142344
You an always watch the old 160 episode ova of Legend of Galactic Heroes. Differences to date are minor
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Follow up films coming though.
Anonymous2142275
Galactic Heroes, is starting to grow on me, is a shame, that's only 12 episodes so much potential being wasted. What happened to those times when long animes, could have at least 50 episodes ( Gundam Seed, Code Geass) and still be viable. feeling hopeless
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: A female director you could also look into is Moufida Tlatli , especially silences of the palace.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: On golden kamuy, from reading on in the manga, there will be a big reveal regarding Asirpa soon. Also I feel the prisoner guys are becoming monster of the week.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I'm glad to be reviewing stuff again on letterboxd.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: ....I...actually momentarily forgot about the PM system.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Watch Bombshell, secrets of a hollywood star or calling hedy lamarr, Bombshell is a recent documentary about Lamarr.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Von Triers new film looks darkly funny though to a degree and I love the self-indulgent first per3son narration.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I have no idea how Stellan Skarsgard (who works alot with Von trier) produced Alexander Skarsgard, the latter is far too attractive to come from that. I feel the same about Asia Argento, I refuse to believe Dario could have produced such a fine creature.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I'm rarely about morals or understanding as an importance when it comes to film, I care most about how it hits me on a visceral/emotional level, how daring it is in its imagination, visuals, madness , creativity.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: thanks, received it. God, Von Triers new film is entirely something else. Full-on provocation. And I already think his Nymphomaniac was too much
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Also I'm dying to see Von Trier and Chang-dongs new films, especially the priors.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I sent you a private message.
Lenlo
That said, the key drama scenes were still great. Okabe's VA continues to make me happy. Im just not sure how much of this is nostalgia.
Lenlo
Steins;Gate is at its best in moments of character drama and character interaction. All of its value lies in its characters. Any action, with this muted style, is going to come off stiff and dull. A con of the art-style decision.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I'm glad you said that, because I felt visually it looked stiff this week and that brief scene in the beginning wasn't much to look at. But Okabes meeting with Baldyguy-san and the cliffhanger and after credits bit were good scenes.
Lenlo
So yeah, this was probably the weakest week of Steins;Gate so far. Its pretty clear its not an action series and that its style doesnt suit itself well to combat scenes
SuperMario
... watching and reading many shounen titles (Dragon Ball, Dragon Quest, Bleach and the likes), shounen isn't my cup of tea at all
SuperMario
While I grow up
Lenlo
@Anon, I love Shounen. BnHA is one of my favorites every season its on. Doesnt mean I like Black Clover though
Kaiser-Eoghan
Thank you for that anon, when I watched the episode earlier I wasn't aware there was a post credits scene.
Anonymous2141254
oh well, we still are early on in S;G 0 too. Plus, there seems to be a huge development at the end of the episode
Anonymous2141254
idk, i can't help but feel that besides the amadeus plotline, everything else feels "fillery"
Anonymous2141254
I must say though that I'm still waiting for it to get good, idk maybe my expectations are too high because the original was great after the first few episodes
Anonymous2141254
Don't forget to watch end credits fo Steins Gate 0
KTravlos
I like some shonen. I just think that they are popular enough as not to be worth reviewing ihmo.
Vonter
@Anon2140150 - I do. Though Shounen do have the issue of being derivative in certain aspects like power scales and several doing the FMA Brotherhood climax (of what I've watched). Also they're made to be endless. It can be intimidating jumping to one that has several seasons.
Anonymous2140150
Does everyone here don't like shonen anime?
Amagi
Really, if there is one piece of information (aside from otome maybe) that makes me ignore a series forever it's a LN about a LN author or illustrator. The selfinert wish fulfillment couldn't be more obvious.
Amagi
Another LN greenlit for an anime production and the synopsis starts with "* is a light novel illustrator and..".
Amagi
@KTravlos: I don't know why modern anime hate curly- and/or wild hair so much. The old hair style gave Reinhard a more royal look, whereas he looks like a normal highschool boy now. Not that I am complaining about the anime as a whole. Also, I like some of the new designs.
KTravlos
and a part of me things it is indeed the hair. It comes to low, giving Reinhard a slovenly, lazy feel. When Yang feels more energetic you know there was a mistake.
KTravlos
and yes, this Reinhard fares poorly in comparison to the OVA one. He is dull. I need more Yang :p
KTravlos
ai vay vay. The Castrop Rebellion remains waste of time. And this time it was worse. The older depiction was tacky but at least it showed Kircheis ability in a logical manner. This time I had no idea what the hell happened. It felt cheap.

The rest of the episode was ok. Not completely sold on all the renditions of imp. admirals though I still love the uniforms.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*those
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hearing these , I find myself much more tolerant of anime voice acting even if the dub might only be okay.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its actually less of a sync issue, as I'm talking about 60s dubs , alot of people think the voices in old anime English dubs from the 90s are dated, but the old sixties kungfu and western dubs are shocking, far worse.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't mind sometimes satirical dubbing like on tiger lily , dialectics break bricks and kung pow however.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And those can be difficult to acquire sometimes in Italian or Chinese.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Live action films, this is especially annoying sometimes because I love Spaghetti westerns and Chinese martial arts films and old Italian cop thrillers.
Anonymous2137430
@Kaiser-Eoghan Are you referring to foreign animated films of foreign live action films because dubbing live action is a different beast as I'm sure you're aware. The idiosyncratic nature of watching moves and facial expressions not properly match voices really pulls the viewer out of the experience
SuperWooper
LoGH is airing a special next week because of scheduling delays, so that's one less thing to do.
AidanAK47
Well to those whom it might concern, expect my posts to be later than usual this week. Work is hell at the moment.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have to say, this is probably a bit hypocritical, but while I enjoy dubs of anime I really really can't stand dubs of foreign films.
Lenlo
Simo Hayha would make a pretty crazy Archer.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I imagine a fate strange fake adaptation will materialize eventually.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But everyone seems to want that Finnish sniper as a Fate servant .
Kaiser-Eoghan
Still no Mao, still mad.
Kaiser-Eoghan
....I have lost track of the historical characters in the fate lineup.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, to expand on that point the following historical figures are now female: Nero Claudius, Leonardo da Vinci, Frankenstein's Monster, Xuanzang, Jing Ke, Quetzalcoatl, Minamoto no Yoshitsune, Miyamoto Musashi, Okita Souji and many more to come.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I find it's an enjoyable watch though flawed. If you can get past some odd fanservice around the first ten episodes then I say it's worth watching.
Anonymous2133468
So i was thinking if i start watching, darling in the franxx, is worth it? or is just another 6/10 anime?
Lenlo
God damnit. Why Nasu. Just why.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, that ain't even Lewd.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In all seriousness its ridiculous, the Japanese will make a cute/moe girl out of anything.
AidanAK47
....Should I also mention that Francis Drake is a big boobed pirate queen?
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Posting lewd images on a respectable chatbox.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, But none of these characters are in the anime adaptions. Well besides Jack and Saber.
Lenlo
Aidan, all this conversation did was prove that my decision to only ever watch the Ufotable adaptions was the correct decision.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, you can blame Extella for the Attlia the Hun thing. I wasn't too fond of it myself. Also should mention Attila is female as well.
https://pm1.narvii.com/6414/528599445b739909c02993cfdbfc9f277d088cf2_hq.jpg
AidanAK47
Also Masky I will be the first to admit to the ridiculous aspects of the Fate Franchise but do take note that you are commenting on something you know literally nothing about. Which is the very definition of ignorance and is quite annoying. Fate/Zero nails the themes it's going for. So go watch Fate/Zero, come back and apologize.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Give it time. Genghis is getting in there eventually with Grand Order. We just had Anastasia and Salieri introduced after all. And it's not as if this story introduces Servants willy nilly, they need actual story purpose. Genghis Khan wouldn't have fit the Narrative that Fate/Zero was going for.
Lenlo
Wait Attila is an Alien and Edison is a Lion? God damnit Fate. Why are you doing this to me. I was already annoyed at your treatment of Musashi
Masky
(aliens existing in the show is good example of that missing on themes part xP)
Masky
*most successful conqueror
Masky
Honestly was just amused most conqueror of all time not being featured in the show :D But wait, whats this about aliens?
AidanAK47
Anyway the important thing to take into account is that in the Fate universe, King Arthur is a woman, Attila the Hun is an Alien, Thomas Edison is a lion and Jack the Ripper is a little girl in a dominatrix outfit. Any questions?
AidanAK47
And while you don't need to watch something to be given divine right to comment on ideas or themes, it does leave you ignorant of how that show handles those ideas and themes.
AidanAK47
As for the Historical Alexander, he wasn't given the title of King of Couquerors. Fate/Zeros interpretation of him was. As generally accurate Fates interpretation of Servents history can be, they can make changes to suit the narrative.
AidanAK47
In that Regard Alexander was doing the conquest thing before Ghengus did. Ghengus likely has some other title. Hell he may only have the title because public consciousness was is more familiar with Alexander than Ghengus.
AidanAK47
Yeah, looking it up seems the King Title lost quite a lot of meaning in the Nasuverse. Though the King Title is rather flimsy. I mean Arthur is the King of Knights cause of the Knights of the round table. Gil is king of heroes because his tale was the first Heroic myth.
Lenlo
I think Alexander was just the first one they thought of, and they couldnt retroactively give it to someone else.

That said, Broskander deserves it <3
Masky
(And no, you don't need to watch something to be given divine right to comment on ideas or themes of it.)
Masky
(just to note in case I need to note, I do tend to do at least cursory research when I make comments on stuff I don't watch)
Masky
That first part is semantics as Fate gives title "King" to historical figures who weren't kings already :D Also, you can make that argument about historical Alexander the Great? Since that seriously sounds like kind of weak reason.
AidanAK47
Also sees Rider as deserving of title of "King of Conquerors" because that which he strives to conquer most is not lands or material wealth, but the hearts of people, the toughest conquest that can be undertaken by anyone.
AidanAK47
@Masky, Ghengis Khan wasn't a king. He was a Khan.
Lenlo
Ghengis is always a Rider in my mind.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But in all seriousness, Ghengis would be an appropriate beserker servant.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Masky: I know, it feels so wrong I'm still mad I can't summon Karl Marx or Stalin.
Masky
So wait, Fate series is about historical figures with super powers, but "King of Conquerors" title isn't given to Ghengis Khan? :D Seriously? Thats just so wrong
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't feel any point in finishing it, it feels like something that I'd just randomly drop , not because its a bad show, but because I got my fill of it.
AidanAK47
I am actually going to drop blogging it.
AidanAK47
@Sash, indeed. I have been watching it but not blogging it for the last few episodes because it just hasn't givne me anything to say. I don't think it's a bad show but I have pointed out the flaws and strengths of it already so there is truly nothing more to say on it.
Sash
I think wotakoi is starting to feel repetitive..
Kaiser-Eoghan
You are now aware Shana and Batman Ninja Harelequinn are both voiced by Rie kugimiya.
Lenlo
I did. It was... It was a thing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Did you end up watching Batman ninja by the way?
Lenlo
Music is great, yeah. When the music is on point, everything goes up. Everytime the sync the fight/punches to the music I just get hyped. Like the rotating shot with Aragaki or the first fight in episode 1.
Lenlo
Ill do my best to be clearer in the future on that front. Yeah, I dont mind twists like this. Makes the inevitable Mikio fight, narratively, even better.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel the music does alot of the lifting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Oh, so that was it.
Lenlo
Sorry if I never made that clear.
Lenlo
I would rather have fewer, amazing, fights than a lot of low-quality fights. This is a one cour show, the more meaning/impact they can give each fight the better.

Like Aragaki, narratively, was great. Loved it. Its just in animation/choreography that it falls flat.
Lenlo
Im disappointed with the animation of the fights. Narratively, I think they are quite good.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*disappointed with the fights in past episodes
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Pretty much what I said I thought of the episode. Although I was surprised how took the episodes ending, I expected you to see it as a slap in the face after being disappointed with the fights.
Lenlo
Also, @Kaiser, I thought Megalo Box did something unique this episode. I wasn't expecting Joe to *not* fight. And the Mikio/Yukiko proxy war is an interesting character motivation. Im betting Yukiko will get Joe a full citizenship, effectively getting her on his side.
Lenlo
I wish I was physically capable of watching Megalo Box without thinking of Hajime no Ippo. I really do. But everytime I watch it, it makes me want to watch Ippo again to.
Anonymous2120908
I watched some more of the Chimera family chinese anime. (Wasn't aware it was monthly released). And geez, I like the concept, the background art is very pretty and contrasts with settings that have become tired in other anime. Yet sadly the animation and script are WEAK. I haven't grasped the quality of what's expected of these types of production but I want to believe, they're trying.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Not much in the way of action in megalobox this week, but I did like the focus on Yukkiko getting a small character moment and then the big moment at episodes end .
AidanAK47
@Anon, That's some lazy ass trolling buddy. Should have stopped before the hashtags.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm even sort of looking forward to supposedly less respectable stuff like Goblin slayer and happy sugar life.
Vonter
Also E3 is almost here. And I can't wait. I think Nintendo will have a good show considering they're revealing the new Smash with a tournament. There's rumors of the new game by Retro Studios (Metroid Prime and Donkey Kong) and maybe they'll reveal something about how Pokemon will be on the Switch.
Vonter
Also there's always the chance of something new being discovered. Not everything needs expectations behind. Sometimes great things come out of nowhere.
Kaiser-Eoghan
So yes, there are some at least decent shows coming out.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Muh Baki, Muh Bananna fish, muh made in abyss season 2, muh Vinland.
Anonymous2119906
The rest of this year looks like shit for anime and 2019 doesn't look great either #fuckmoe #makeanimegreatagain
Anonymous2119214
@Kaiser yeah it happened in half the amount of eps this time around for steins gate 0; which i expected considering there's a lot of ground to cover
Anonymous2119106
@Supermario Something like Fate or the LOTR films are a different case. I get where you're coming from about your preference, but I'm arguing that if a large story is going to be split into 3 films, it helps that the 3 films feel cleanly cut. Infinity war, even though we know there's a second part to the story, feels like it has that cohesive narrative structure with a beginning, middle, and end
Anonymous2119106
@Super Mario yea but the marvel movies are a different situation so i don't think the comparison is as appropriate. Marvel movies are "episodic" in nature rather than a continuous narrative. The films are largely isolated stories that are happening in a similar universe that only happen to "congeal" narratively because of a few overarching details shared between films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I remember when the original series suddenly shifted and got going and it was a really depressing episode.
Lenlo
Oh baby. The storm has finally come in Steins;Gate. Let the true suffering commence
SuperMario
@anon2118276: that's why I don't like LoTR trilogy. It's still a whole body chopped up in 3 parts, despite how clean the cut is. Whereas for me it works better if it was like a branch in a tree. The Marvel movies (despite my disinterest on those) are a good example of this.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I did feel some of this weeks steins gate felt fillery, I do like see these characters interact and given the episodes conclusion, this episode acted as a calm before the storm.
Lenlo
Ill agree with you on King Kong. As for the Ralph Bakshi LotR, I have. I am still to this day impressed by the overlay of 2D art onto real/overexposed footage. It makes for shockingly fluid animation in places and has its own distinct style
Anonymous2118208
@Lenlo - Have you watched the old Ralph Bakshi adaptation of the first two books? It's uneven, but it's interesting comparing and contrasting certain decisions. As good as Peter Jackson is, I feel he makes very longwinded films, I like his version of King Kong a lot, but it is too long.
Anonymous2118276
@supermario i disagree; the point is that even though the LOTH films have cliffhanger endings, they still feel like fils. they have a defined first second and third act with well paced tension and release throughout them. They follow a storytelling macrostructure necessary for films to feel like cohesive narratives even if they are to end on a cliffhanger
Lenlo
I quite liked the individual LOTR movie just fyi
Vonter
Marvel surprisingly has kept their movies simple enough, that while you might miss details nowadays, you can tell what's happening.
Vonter
Another bad case is like with Assassin's Creed, which like Lost, just tried to tease a lot of things, then it grew tired of trying to piece them together and let the last games work more standalone, with little hints of a larger lore.
Vonter
Metroid does both, it has a standalone story and a hint to what a sequel might bring. Though that hint rarely matters by the time the new game is released.
Vonter
@SuperMario - Some videogames trilogies also do that. Gears of War and God of War had good standalone beginnings but by the second game they put cliffhanging endings. Kingdom Hearts does that and I expect 3 to also do it. Megaman Legends and Half Life had incomplete stories, which might be the worse case in regards to trying to make a continuous story.
SuperMario
It ruins the appetite
SuperMario
I actually think Lord of the Rings' trilogy is a bad example to follow. These films are meant to be viewed as a whole, so each film doesn't hold much as an individual story. I just can't digest films that have "to be continued" sign at the end. Imagine having a first course meal and then have to wait for few days for second course
Kaiser-Eoghan
On the current topic, I would be well for the production of a long running, ambitious ova series.
Anonymous2116425
then again, i don't take too much issue with these films feeling like movie-sized eps...the wait just sucks is all
Anonymous2116425
clearly the films need each other to tell the whole story, yet they can be taken for what they are in isolation as well
Anonymous2116425
I don't mind the trilogy trend at all; like Aidan said, when everything is said and done, all the films will be available to watch. I just think a stronger attempt should be made to make them feel like complete films. Something like the lord of the rings trilogy is a great example of how to do this
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am in full confidence that neither I nor Miura will survive to the end of berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course maybe they won't have a future , think about it that way, then they'd never see it, life has that weird way of being unpredictable like that =P
Kaiser-Eoghan
You can always rewatch them just before watching the one after.
AidanAK47
Of course not. But that's the thing. The wait is only a temporary problem. Anyone in the future will have all movies ready to view.
SuperMario
So it's best to wait for another 2 years to watch Heaven's Feel? Hell NOT
AidanAK47
When all the movies come out though you can basically barrel through it like a TV series.
SuperMario
Dangit, it's me Mario
Anonymous2115918
I still don't know if I like this trilogy trend. We've had a fair bun h of those in recent years (Berserk Golden Age, Madoka, even Kizumonogatari). I guess doing it that way, they'd make much more profits, and we have higher production values, but the wait is way too long and I don't think it works as movie-format
Kaiser-Eoghan
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