Posted by psgels on 20 June 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews




Okay, so I finally managed to finish this series. I can now understand why when it first aired in 2003, it made quite an impact. It had this unique charm and excellent CG animation that actually still holds up today. It’s got a few problems, but overall it’s a unique adventure series.

The big strength of Last Exile is that it’s inspired and imaginative in just about every single way: it’s heavily influenced by the Miyazaki flying movies, but it managed to build its own original setting around that: there are original ideas behind just about every facet of this show, the designs too are just completely unique (with excellent CG to back this up). This is a wondrous journey from start to finish.

Now, beyond the ideas, this show also has the execution to back it up. I want to specifically praise the characters and the acting, who too feel unlike other shows of its kind. To best explain this: the dialogue feels much more natural and balanced than what you usually see in anime, making good use of pauses and nonverbal communication as well. The drama in particular is really well delivered thanks to this.

In terms of the story, this is a bit of a strange one, though. It’s the kind of series that really dislikes exposition, and keeps most of this as brief as possible. Because of this, a lot of the stuff in this series is left to the imagination as to “how and why” they happen.

Due to the acting, another interesting effect is that some characters go completely against their supposed archetypes. The one big exception is the main villain who really is an evil megalomaniac no matter how you cut it, but characters like Lavie, Mullin, and even Alex Rowe: they really know their characters and don’t try to be anything more for the sake of some extra forced drama. I really appreciate that, but because of that this series does have a few points where it drags because of that. It does come together wonderfully for the ending, though.

The strange thing with this series is that it may not be the most exciting series. And despite the solid acting, there are certain moments in the story that do feel forced. And yet, now that I’ve finished watching this show, it feels so complete. The end of this series really feels like the end of a long journey, and yet I can fully see a second season that focuses on a completely new cast work; the setting is more than rich enough for that. I wouldn’t call this amongst Gonzo’s best; they made too many classics for that, but it still makes the top 7 and it’s definitely a great show to watch.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Lots and lots of style. A bit one-sided at times, but never really drags.
Characters: 9/10 – Characters who fit the setting incredibly well. Very natural dialogue and voice acting.
Production-Values: 9/10 – This show is eight years old and still looks unique and amazing. You don’t often get to say that about 3D CG in a tv-series.
Setting: 9/10 – The setting still stands on its own with great ideas and a detailed description. It leaves things unexplained, but gets a nine because it really speaks to the imagination.

Suggestions:
Shangri-La (just note that while Last Exile is really subtle, Shangri-la most definitely isn’t).
Simoun
The Third

31 Responses

  1. Joe Bob says:

    I think you might have switched the production values and setting ratings.

  2. Meep says:

    Yay so glad you finally watched and reviewed this! :3 Last Exile is a very special series to me, and it made me fall in love with scifi/steampunk. I was very surprised to learn about Last Exile 2, but nevertheless ecstatic.

  3. psgels psgels says:

    Ack, forgot a nine there. Took me a long while to debate whether to rate this one 85/100 or 87,5/100, which lead to that typo…

  4. ojisan says:

    Good assessment. The story itself seems to be made of poorly hinged sections, but it’s a fully believable world, and a wonderful experience to watch. I have a big weakness for ‘new worlds without exposition’ – speaking of which, perhaps Xam’d could join Simoun as a Suggestion –

  5. Yay, glad you finally got around to it (although ironically it looks like this is going to be a fall show now *headdesk*) and glad that you enjoyed it. I watched it recently and was glad to see how much I still liked it but you hit the nail on the head when you said that it hates exposition, a lot of events in that ending made no sense (I mean, one of the characters who appeared to have died in the ending actually lived, I never would have known that if I hadn’t looked up stuff online).
    Now, all we need you to do now is watch Princess Tutu sometime and all will be right in the world. >:D

  6. yeah I had to watch the show twice to actually GET the ending, about the world/space station they were on, and the exile itself…its funny becuase they gave hints about it all throughout the series, but had to watch it a second time to notice it!

  7. hairgreen says:

    got be the worst overrated gonzo-savior shit ever made….

  8. Alec says:

    @hairgreen: Overrated? care to explain why it’s overrated? I seem to think of it as underrated.

    beside Gonzo was already famous/rich before they even made Last Exile

    Last Exile… my fav. anime of all time. I still listen to it’s songs, minus the insert songs, everyday

  9. gandalf8 says:

    I’m glad that you finally got through this one. The main draw of this series for me was always the well thought out and imaginative setting of the world. Especially the use of steampunk and chivalry, which at first glance looks rather out of place, is integrated beautifully into the well realized world of Last Exile. Only the storyline was a bit disappointing, which dragged at times, while the ending feels rushed. I’m okay with leaving some things to the interpretation of the audience, but I was not satisfied with how little explanation is given on the significance of the Exile and why controlling it is so important.

    If there is one thing that screams “epic” in Last Exile, it is the aerial battles. From huge floating battleships that fight with cannons and musketeers using steam powered rifles, to aerial dogfights between vanships and those advanced Guild fighters, every battle was intricately planned and well executed. The battles are won by strategy, and not just brute force. My most favorite battle was the one between the Silvana and the Urbanus fleet at the Dragon’s Fangs. Now that was one intense battle, with both captains striving to outwit and outmaneuver each other. Even outnumbered and seemingly outgunned, Alex’s tactical acumen and sheer guile managed to save the Silvana. This battle will probably remain as one of the most epic battle in anime in my book.

    One part that I would love to see expanded in the sequel is about the Vanship pilots and their missions. Claus and Lavie’s fellow vanship pilots were imo very underutilised in the original series. In fact, I wouldn’t even mind if the first half of the series (hoping that it’ll be 2-cour) focuses solely on the Vanship pilots, and the missions that they undertake.

  10. Kyubey says:

    @Alec: I thought it was vastly overrated too. In fact, the plot was so forgettable that I don’t even remember it.

  11. hairgreen says:

    The plot is not the worst I’ve seen; the annoying characters are the problem.

  12. hairgreen says:

    @alec not overrated? Take a few years back even narutards were raving about this piece of crap.

  13. phuzy says:

    One of my first anime series, actually. I’ve loved Range Murata’s work, ever since.

  14. AKI says:

    Finally, you have watched Last Exile! One of the best anime I’ve seen in years. Getting thru the first few episodes requires a lot of patience but once you get to the “meat” of the story, you’ll be satisfied. It won’t be on my top ten (not perfect of course) but the eyecandy on this series is unmatched, even after a full decade after it’s released. I would say that this was once of Gonzo’s ambitious series when it was released – and it didn’t disappoint (I’m talking dvd sales of course).

  15. @Alec says:

    @hairgreen: okay, having characters you personally don’t like makes this anime a piece of crap? Oh God, who knows how many animes you’ve labeled as “piece of crap”

    lemme guess, the list involves honey and clover, cowboy bebop & gankutsuou

  16. hairgreen says:

    @alec how dare you to compare last exile to cowboy bebop.

  17. Watcherzero says:

    I just loved the original influence of Greek in the style (when in most anime its German influenced). Wasnt a huge fan of the main charachters apart from the little girl and crew of the Silvana, the princess in particular you really felt how she was competing with a dead girlfreind always. Many series have done the people on an ark ship going backwards but I dont think any have ever done it this well or kept the suspense of that reveal so long.

  18. psgels psgels says:

    Kids, please try to at least be civil. There’s no need to fly at each other’s throat just because your opinions differ.

  19. Alec says:

    @hairgreen: I just figure you found Ed annoying, hence being part of the list.

    And besides Cowboy Bebop is overrated. There’s too much hype put into it compared to last exile.

  20. Alec says:

    There were a few things left unexplained in the series, like how or why Alvis is the key to last exile. But I guess it no longer mattered in the end

  21. hairred says:

    @alec yeah right CB is overrated.

  22. Guest says:

    I enjoyed this anime up until the unnecessarily vague end. Not perfect, but very enjoyable.

    One thing Last Exile really brought home to me is that there has to be a “how to make anime targeted at the foreign market” checklist the animation studios use for some projects.

    Obvious items I’d include on the list are:
    – (i) is the name in English? or at least translatable into something easy to say in English?
    – (ii) is there minimal-to-no fanservice?
    – (iii) is romance omitted, or at most alluded to but kept implicit and offscreen?
    – (iv) are characters of varied, largely non-asian ethnicities?
    – (v) are characters drawn in ways that “look right” (asians with black hair, europeans with other colors, etc.)?
    – (vi) is violence largely bloodless / gore-less?
    – (vii) is the setting outside of asia? or, if set in asia, the does the plot not really depend on being asian in any way (“it could’ve been set anywhere…”)?
    – (viii) are the main characters largely adults, or at least no longer enrolled in primary (k12) education?

    …etc., with the commercial logic being that if you get it right you can probably at least break even domestically and have a shot at making megabucks by creating the next Cowboy Bebop or Ghost In the Shell style overseas sensation.

    So: Last Exile, Fullmetal Alchemist, Darker than Black, Baccano!, Planetes, Death Note, etc., all would do pretty well on this checklist; Bakemonogatari, Toaru Majutsu no Index, Madoka, etc. (and many others) would do pretty poorly.

    This isn’t meant as a criticism per-se, it’s just that Last Exile was the one that made this pattern / presumptive checklist apparent for me.

  23. Alec says:

    I’d like to put overrated in 2 categories — the crappy overrated and the good but still overrated. I’d like to think that both exile and cb are in the latter

  24. missi says:

    I read so many times on this blog about “overrated” and “underrated” anime. What does it mean? What is a “underrated” anime? One that is SO INCREDIBLY good, but most viewers are to dumb to recognize its greatness (or don’t have enough patience to sit through 10 episodes until the real “meat” of the story comes)? The word itself is ridiculous. If an anime is not liked enough, there is a reason for it (most of the time there are MANY reasons)! It just doesn’t appeal to a greater audience. And when it comes to “overrated” anime, they DO appeal to a greater audience!!! Period.

    I personally liked the visuals and the music of Last Exil. But the storytelling was pretty lame. So I never finished it. Maybe I should try it again.

  25. ender650 says:

    I really disliked the ending of Last Exile but the animation was very good at the time and still looks decent. The steampunk setting is interesting, and I’m sure anyone who likes steampunk would enjoy the show just because of the world its set in.

  26. Scruffy says:

    @Guest. TBH I don’t think that Japanese studios ever make that much money from overseas sales, mainly due to the price that overseas buyers are willing to pay. For example look at the price for PMMM. The first BluRay has sold ~65,000 copies and was selling for around $100 USD. That included just TWO episodes!!!! There’s no way that overseas sales can ever match that sort of money.

  27. Cholisose says:

    Ah, Last Exile is a great series–one of the first anime I was ever into. The setting is wonderful, and there was a great variety of characters. I had to watch the show a couple times though to really get what was going on.
    I’m excited for the sequel series (or OVA?) that is coming out soon.

  28. Hades says:

    Not a fan of Gonzo, but well this is one of their best works (since most of Gonzo animes are decent/mediocre to begin with). I’d put Last Exile below Gankutsuou and NHK. The rest of Gonzo’s anime didn’t pelease me that much. Why so much hate this?

    CB overrated?!… this section is about Last Exile, don’t bring animes that don’t have anything to do with the discussion about Last Exile.

  29. Hades says:

    Not a fan of Gonzo, but well this is one of their best works (since most of Gonzo animes are decent/mediocre to begin with). I’d put Last Exile below Gankutsuou and NHK. The rest of Gonzo’s anime didn’t pelease me that much. Why so much hate this?

    CB overrated?!… this section is about Last Exile, don’t bring animes that don’t have anything to do with the discussion about Last Exile.

  30. DangerMouse says:

    Great to see this finally get watched/reviewed by you psgels! :)

    Totally agree gandalf8. Hit on so many of my favorite points about the series. Such a great series.

    “Yay so glad you finally watched and reviewed this! :3 Last Exile is a very special series to me, and it made me fall in love with scifi/steampunk. I was very surprised to learn about Last Exile 2, but nevertheless ecstatic. ”

    Yeah, Last Exile is one of my all time favorite series and it’s incredibly designed and developed setting and visuals of the world, the ships/tech, characters and how they look and the fully realized flight suits and uniforms etc. remains one of the best I’ve seen.

    Can’t wait for the sweet surprise that was that announcement of a new Last Exile series and like Gandalf, I hope it’s getting a full 2-cour run like this first one did.

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I also agree about complaints made about the mumbled dialogue when it does occur.
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I think thin red line is a good thing to bring up hear as throughout much of Dunkirk I was thinking about how much more Mallick's film did for me, how I should have been re-watching that instead.
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Yet at the same time I couldn't connect with it, it became repetitive, disjointed and the shots/Zimmer score towards the end were embaeassing.
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There were definitely aspects to praise, to be fair there is no shortage of action, it eschews exposition and tries to visually immerse the viewer to make them feel as if they are present.
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Im ready. Reflection comes on tomorrow, so heres hopin its worth it
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it was trash. just british propaganda
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I already lost interest when I saw Inception which I didn't really like. My favorite Nolan movie will always be Memento.
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The frontman of Linkin Park commited suicide by hanging himself... sad news. Never been his fan but I feel sad nonetheless
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Actually forgot with all the impressions and whatnot but I do believe we said we would review the Castlevania Netflix series. Now that everything has calmed down I will see if I can do a write up next week.
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I was busy trying to discern whether the story had any point besides "Life is shit"
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Again, while I enjoyed punpun, the excessive internal narration, when marathoned, I had to take a break.
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@Aidan: Read Freesia.
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umi no onnanoko is probably the exact thing ninjarealist would be interested in.
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I found it alot more accessible than nijigahara holograph. deded-demon-destruction while enjoyable, is beneath him. Solanin is probably his easiest work.
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Aidan: Fate/Apocrypha, Made in Abyss, Kakegurui
Mario: Princess Principal, 18if, Youkoso
Lenlo: Touken Ranbu, The Reflection
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Helghast: Re:Creators
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Yet as a game Tales hasn't felt deep since Symphonia, (at least from the ones I've played). I'm wondering if it'll leave me wanting check the anime of Zestiria, since apparently Berseria is a prequel to that game. And many say the anime is better than the game. (I can see why).
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I also like the reused Tales beats from Phantasia and Berseria. It those have moments like when Lloyd was exiled and Cless had his village attacked. It has clear antagonists unlike Vesperia, and trying harder than the cartoony villains of Graces.
Vonter
I've been playing Tales of Berseria, and it seems to be the anti Tales of Graces. In which I'm caring about the story and characters, but the gameplay is a drag. This is the first time I've been autoplaying an JRPG. But unlike Gravity Rush 2, I'm not dropping it because I'm liking the interactions of these characters even if it gets, campy, overdramatic, or edgy.
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I mean I watch anime and films subtitled but sometimes my reading speed can be slow if theres a lot of dialogue.
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Eh, I do that sometimes, mostly to check for message updates or on occasion to read reviews of what I am watching or to download more/check downloads.
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For instance, I watched Okja yesterday and I had to take 15', 20' minute break in between for snack, surfing webs and playing mobile games...
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I watched Fanny and Alexander... don't really remember which version I watched thou. I think it's a TV version since it divides into 4 separate parts
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it just that... my attention span has shortened greatly and I just can't stay focus on movies over an hour mark. In cinema, it's alright since you can't move anywhere but now it's abig task to finish a 2 hour and a half movie for me
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And is good enough to keep up the quality for that long.
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I'll say this, for every medium, to me the length of something isn't so much the issue, if you have a writer good enough to keep something going for ages then the length shouldn't be an issue.
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@Mario: If something goes over three hours I treat it as a miniseries and watch one hour or two a day.
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@Mario: lol if you thought thats long, have you seen the extended versions of scenes from a marriage and fanny & alexander by Bergman? I can't wait to get my hands on the tv versions I hear they're completely different.
SuperMario
Okja is pretty entertaining with pointed social commentary. I don't really feel Tilda Swinton's double roles add up much but everything else is great. Bong has never disappointed me
SuperMario
@Kaiser: good luck with Satantango then. I guess now if I watch an 8-hour long film it would take me a whole week to finish it :/
Kaiser-Eoghan
Made in abyss and vatican keep staring at me. Although I'm not chancing them yet or anything else until I hear a bit more.
Kaiser-Eoghan
My once massive film backlog is nearly cleared. I can try watching stuff this season hopefully.
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Same boat here. For the first time in a long time I spent almost half the day catching up on all of my manga.
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@Mario: I'll have two weeks leave, I will finally watch Satantango, all eight hours of that film.
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I did a double take when I saw this. One of these things is not like the other.... http://gematsu.com/2017/07/blazblue-cross-tag-battle-announced
SuperMario
Well, finally have a bit of precious free time to watch something else and I have too much things to watch. Castlevania, the final Kizumonogatari movie, live-action Okja and some books planned to read... I guess I'll go with Okja today
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Looking forward to that Dies review
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Yaaay! Time to enjoy your blogging time
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And now we are up to date. Just need to finally get that Dies Irae Review posted.
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Pet cemetary was a guilty pleasure of mine when I was a teenager.
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I don't know how I'd feel if I rewatched salems lot, although a positive is that it did have James Mason in it and it was done in that 70s style of slow burn horror that I love.
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Okay theres one way to settle this =P Lovecraft > all of them ;) I have actually enjoyed some King adaptations even though I know the Shining took liberties , I also enjoyed Carrie and Apt Pupil.
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@Kaiser, please. Early King > Richard Matheson > Modern King. Kings early works were good.
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@Aidan, its true that Monty was the mind behind the fights. Sad, but I think the other directors are starting to come into their own instead of trying to copy Monty.
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But we all know Richard Matheson > King.
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He did some collabs with Stephen King I believe.
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Like the dead films he's trying to be thematic, although this one is clumsily put together, I kind of like how it hybridizes the 50s with 70s style exploitation, it has its moments.
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hmmm the only non Dead trilogy film I've seen by Romero is the Crazies, feels like he's still finding his voice with it.
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@Lenlo, Part of the reason is that they started using better animation software. But despite that there was a downgrade in fight chorgraphy when Monty died. Though the story I find is getting better.
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@Kinseryu, I think it's ridiculous to everyone but there are those that choose to ignore it.
@Anon, That's a bit harsh. It is true that his later works never truly panned out but he did pretty much popularise the zombie apoc. Even if Day of the Triffids did it before him.
Lenlo
Every season RWBY gets just a little bit prettier. Rooster Teeth really does have some of the better 3D animation skills out there.
Anonymous1272531
goerge romero was a hack trying desperate to stay relevant.
Kinseryu
Tenshi3P... I thought it was just me that this show was just ridiculous by putting three ten years old girl that knows how to play electrical instruments. They are insulting the people who plays these. But good thing I found this site with your first impression. I laughed and I feel better. Lol.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: he passed away? damn. He was the Father of Zombie genre. So like him or hate him, he was influential to say the least. RIP.
Kaiser_Eoghan
...holy shit George A Romero died? Now I have to watch the rest of his films.
Kaiser_Eoghan
Rei Hiroe is really dicking around with black lagoon lately, he's still releasing wasted chapters, just like re:creators, the most recent chapter of black lagoon was a slog.
Kaiser_Eoghan
Maybe the conversation and lives of others could sort of count as espionage stories to an extent.
Kaiser_Eoghan
If you're interested in spy fiction, Spy who came in from the cold, most wanted man, Smiley's people, deadly affair and tinker tailor soldier spy are your best bet.
SuperMario
@Travlos (regarding yoir earlier comment): yeah, it hit me as well that most of regular readers have been here even longer than myself. So thanks for sticking around mates
SuperMario
@Travlos: playing catch up with both Re:Creators and Virgin Soul yesterday. Agreed that last week's Re:Creators was weak because it focused on the Creators (they're not good) but last episode was on par again. Virgin Soul, I loved that episode that the girls go bacl to Nina's hometown
SuperMario
@anon1272074: I still haven't had the time to watch Pripri yet (probably in few more hours), but you bet I'm looking forward to it
Anonymous1272074
Then again, James Bond does count as a spy. I meant not a realistic one.
Anonymous1272074
Princess Principal 2 was pretty good. Still more James Bond via little girls than spies, but this episode was more about intrigue and stuff than action.
Lenlo
Started catching up with Kakegurui. The OP is the sort of mind games I remember from Mob Psycho. Dunno what that means for the show, but I like it.
KTravlos
Quite happy with this week's RE:Creators. Blitz is cool, Aliceteria looked so scary. It washed out the taste of last week's episode.

Bahamut is going interesting places.
BTW. Speaking of spies from Princess Principal. I watch TURN. That is a good spy show.
KTravlos
I mean you see the use of those heavy revolvers as clubs in westerns. Mythbusters did a experiment, and being hit by one could kill you just fine. But in anime, I do not remember seeing it often
AidanAK47
Homura used Gun-kata in the fight against Mami in Rebellion. Can't think of anyone who exclusively uses it though. After all Gun-Kata is more or less a flashy art that has no real benefit.
Anonymous1270604
amazing!
Vonter
Is Gun Kata the fighting style of Noel Vermillion from BlazBlue? I suppose I'm mainly thinking about how guns are handled in fighting games. Where the shots are mainly concussive. I suppose those are mainly energy blasts.
Lenlo
Ranbu took a step in the right direction I feel. Used the morals of whether or not to change history and it focused in on one of its characters.
Lenlo
Final Fantasy has had some gun swords. Cant think of any with guns in melee though. There are some with gun-kata like cowboy bebop though
Vonter
Just for curiosity, have anyone watched an anime, movie or game that uses a gun as a melee weapon. Or one in which the gun is mainly concussive but still has impact?
Spike
18if ep2 was a bit wacky... main character seems to be off his rocker.
AidanAK47
Alright. Time to finally play catch up with those series I need to blog.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But at the same time acknowledging love for creativity is more important in the end than making a profit.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I was using death of artist/deceased artist as a term to suggest peoples careers in the area are too often killed before they get a chance.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Moreso also to save the guy the embarrassment of misinterpreting it so awkwardly.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Puran: Nothing too extreme , moreso that the piece itself feels inappropriate/tainted to have up/leave around/submit. Ended up taking it down out of taste.
Puran
Did that change how you feel about your writing? I had a somewhat similar experience, where something I was writing was similar to a real situation some I knew was going through. After I found out I stopped writing it. Not sure why.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wasn't all that close to either of them much but yeah, weird coincidence.
Kaiser-Eoghan
He thought I already knew the guy was dead.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*earlier
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its all okay now...but fuck that was was awkward.
Kaiser-Eoghan
....Oh jesus christ...oh christ this is a creepy creepy coincidence...I showed an acquaintance a bit of writing I did early, it mentions death of an artist, thing is I was writing something based on a conversation with my editor friend, turns out said acquaintance's artist friend died (who he knows that I've spoken to in the past) and he thought the piece I showed him was about the dead guy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I believe I began visiting this site in 2008.
As for humanity has declined, I found it bizzare and darkly funny for a while but felt it ran dry in its second half and I kind of fell out of following it.
KTravlos
You know it hit me. I think I have been following this blog for a decade now, perhaps more. Cool that it is still around.
Lenlo
I do agree it had alot more western influence than eastern though
Lenlo
Eh nothing wrong with that I think. Astro boy was very much the same after all
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I personally saw it as more of a Saturday morning cartoon than an anime.
Lenlo
@Masky, Heroman was a decent giant robot show. It looked and sounded good, though the acting was off in places. Alot of people panned it thinking it was the West invading the east when really it was trying to bridge that gap
SuperWooper
@Kaiser: Hey, Humanity Has Declined was great.
KTravlos
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KTravlos
Masky it was not an issue of writing about politics. It is an issue of writing just about your preferred politics. A good political work need to be politicized if you understand what I mean.
Kaiser-Eoghan
...what the hell tsuki ga kirei was directed by Seiji Kishi? He was actually capable of making a good anime?
Masky
Anyhoo, lol. Haven't mentioned Jitsu wa watashi wa in long time, but I really find it hilarious that its only actually evil character's competence is just "they aren't a idiot" xD As in, they don't even seem that diabolically intelligent, they just don't get wrapped into hijinxs.
Masky
@KTravlos: Well, depends on your views. Some people think artists should have their work speak about politics and world instead of just good stories. I'm kinda neutral about that since while stories about nature of world can be great, most of them don't really teach anyone anything new or change anyone
Masky
Huh, another anime work with Stan Lee being involved? I wonder how well Heroman did
KTravlos
Yup. A mangaka that could had been another Urasaw imho is Kawaguchi Kaiji. I really like his art, and it evokes some of the elements that I love in Urasawa. He also has interesting stories. But I fear he has let his political and ideological prejudices get the better of him. Which is a pity. Definitely a missed chance.
Masky
Did Urasawa do that billy bat manga?
SuperMario
As for Urasawa, I mentioned here before but I read 20th Century Boys few months ago and the manga was a straight out masterpiece. Fillers, yes but they are still in service for the main plot. Although out of his work my favorite's still Monster
AidanAK47
Alright. Only one more. Though the two superhero shows won't air for another week. Seeing as one is reflectiona nd the other is that marvel kids show maybe we shouldn't bother covering them in the impressions.
SuperMario
@Amagi: agree with you on the Friday's anime (well, for me it's technically Saturday) but Kakegurui, Fate and Princess Principal are worth following as well
SuperMario
@Kaiser: if you're still deciding if you should check out the manga or novel then I say novel since it's the novel that was influential, not the manga
Kaiser-Eoghan
So based on that fantasy itch I had thought about Altair, but hesitated because it was labeled as a shounen action show.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There was a time where I was hugely into the shoujo fantasy/historical thing. I've actually been thinking of out of curiousity looking into some old obscure ovas such as Books of Y and Crystania.
Amagi
Man as much as I love the Friday's anime this time, and whenever Altair airs, but the rest of the working-week is weak as hell. At least now I will finally have more time for games, VNs and creative stuff I guess.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It was kind of nice to hear an announcer coming in before Genocidal organ started, mentioning that for a few months their cinema will be playing anime and Japanese films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Surprised to see an anime reference Kafka and Katyn.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have not yet checked out empire of corpses.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now, I'll have to consider the manga or the novel as I heard some of the philosophical stuff got chopped. This was however a more successful and accessible film for me than Harmony.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Manglobe was always a bit mediocre when it came to animation and voice actor direction, but this wasn’t a bad film for them to go out on.
It lives up to its name, it gets quite visceral with the action that’s there, if you don’t like seeing child soldiers getting slaughtered there’s your warning, but I appreciated getting this kind of violence I want to see more of again in anime/manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I just got back from my local arthouse cinema, from watching a special screening of that anime film, Genocidal organ, this is the sort of thing where you do wish that it had more time to explore its thematics but they at least offer a good enough flavouring to a solid man on a mission scifi thriller.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Just to state I don't hate Urasawa's work, rather I find it sort of difficult , I could say the same about Asano Inio regarding oyasumi punpun.
KTravlos
Urasawa is supposed to be working on Master Keaton Remastered. But it seems to be on hiatus. A pity because I loved Master Keaton (I adore Monster)-in general I love this person's work.
Amagi
20thCB would be my favorite Urasawa I think but I can't imagine it as an adaption. Kinda want to know what Urasawa will do next. He already announced that he's working on a new series months ago.
Amagi
I am really looking forward to the Pluto anime. I wanted this one the most, there is a serious lack of good sci-fi anime out there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
...billy bat is....scattered and directionaless fro what I read but shows interesting historical scenarios.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pluto was reasonably short, so this wasn't much of a problem.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And while from the film adaptations I could tell that the original manga for 20th century boys likely had a very good storyline , I couldn't get through the manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Despite watching monster a few times I feel I've missed or forgotten things about it, largely because although I understand its importance and did like it, its length and pace always made me watch it on and off with gaps in between.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised by how attached I got to Grimmer.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Monster is a good example of slow burn tension done right and has one of the most memorable villains out there. Though it isn't without its fillers.
Lenlo
You want a mystery, I heartily recommend Monster.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I also sometimes write impressions/reviews in my spare time, its hard.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although the first season probably did have just that bit better atmosphere.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I may have been one of the few who enjoyed true detective season 2 as much as the first however.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not sure anymore if I'm entirely happy or not with having less time now , yes I can see the frustration, but at the same time it stops me from filling in dead moments with terrible shows/films when there ends up being literally nothing else to do.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Then again I can only enjoy a select crime/mystery things .
Kaiser-Eoghan
It would take a very good writer to make case of the week episodes work, a mystery wrapped up in one or two episodes can just stop it from unfolding naturally or organically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As I've probably mentioned a few times, I pretty much go by what I'm told to watch and not watch , mostly to play it safe.
Amagi
@Aidan: Same here. If the supernatural feeling is part of a series it's better if it's rather just hinted at to retain the aura of mystery but that the actual cases are just involving "normal" crimes that get resolved by detective work. Something like True Detective or Name of the Rose.
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