Posted by psgels on 20 June 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews




Okay, so I finally managed to finish this series. I can now understand why when it first aired in 2003, it made quite an impact. It had this unique charm and excellent CG animation that actually still holds up today. It’s got a few problems, but overall it’s a unique adventure series.

The big strength of Last Exile is that it’s inspired and imaginative in just about every single way: it’s heavily influenced by the Miyazaki flying movies, but it managed to build its own original setting around that: there are original ideas behind just about every facet of this show, the designs too are just completely unique (with excellent CG to back this up). This is a wondrous journey from start to finish.

Now, beyond the ideas, this show also has the execution to back it up. I want to specifically praise the characters and the acting, who too feel unlike other shows of its kind. To best explain this: the dialogue feels much more natural and balanced than what you usually see in anime, making good use of pauses and nonverbal communication as well. The drama in particular is really well delivered thanks to this.

In terms of the story, this is a bit of a strange one, though. It’s the kind of series that really dislikes exposition, and keeps most of this as brief as possible. Because of this, a lot of the stuff in this series is left to the imagination as to “how and why” they happen.

Due to the acting, another interesting effect is that some characters go completely against their supposed archetypes. The one big exception is the main villain who really is an evil megalomaniac no matter how you cut it, but characters like Lavie, Mullin, and even Alex Rowe: they really know their characters and don’t try to be anything more for the sake of some extra forced drama. I really appreciate that, but because of that this series does have a few points where it drags because of that. It does come together wonderfully for the ending, though.

The strange thing with this series is that it may not be the most exciting series. And despite the solid acting, there are certain moments in the story that do feel forced. And yet, now that I’ve finished watching this show, it feels so complete. The end of this series really feels like the end of a long journey, and yet I can fully see a second season that focuses on a completely new cast work; the setting is more than rich enough for that. I wouldn’t call this amongst Gonzo’s best; they made too many classics for that, but it still makes the top 7 and it’s definitely a great show to watch.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Lots and lots of style. A bit one-sided at times, but never really drags.
Characters: 9/10 – Characters who fit the setting incredibly well. Very natural dialogue and voice acting.
Production-Values: 9/10 – This show is eight years old and still looks unique and amazing. You don’t often get to say that about 3D CG in a tv-series.
Setting: 9/10 – The setting still stands on its own with great ideas and a detailed description. It leaves things unexplained, but gets a nine because it really speaks to the imagination.

Suggestions:
Shangri-La (just note that while Last Exile is really subtle, Shangri-la most definitely isn’t).
Simoun
The Third

31 Responses

  1. Joe Bob says:

    I think you might have switched the production values and setting ratings.

  2. Meep says:

    Yay so glad you finally watched and reviewed this! :3 Last Exile is a very special series to me, and it made me fall in love with scifi/steampunk. I was very surprised to learn about Last Exile 2, but nevertheless ecstatic.

  3. psgels psgels says:

    Ack, forgot a nine there. Took me a long while to debate whether to rate this one 85/100 or 87,5/100, which lead to that typo…

  4. ojisan says:

    Good assessment. The story itself seems to be made of poorly hinged sections, but it’s a fully believable world, and a wonderful experience to watch. I have a big weakness for ‘new worlds without exposition’ – speaking of which, perhaps Xam’d could join Simoun as a Suggestion –

  5. Yay, glad you finally got around to it (although ironically it looks like this is going to be a fall show now *headdesk*) and glad that you enjoyed it. I watched it recently and was glad to see how much I still liked it but you hit the nail on the head when you said that it hates exposition, a lot of events in that ending made no sense (I mean, one of the characters who appeared to have died in the ending actually lived, I never would have known that if I hadn’t looked up stuff online).
    Now, all we need you to do now is watch Princess Tutu sometime and all will be right in the world. >:D

  6. yeah I had to watch the show twice to actually GET the ending, about the world/space station they were on, and the exile itself…its funny becuase they gave hints about it all throughout the series, but had to watch it a second time to notice it!

  7. hairgreen says:

    got be the worst overrated gonzo-savior shit ever made….

  8. Alec says:

    @hairgreen: Overrated? care to explain why it’s overrated? I seem to think of it as underrated.

    beside Gonzo was already famous/rich before they even made Last Exile

    Last Exile… my fav. anime of all time. I still listen to it’s songs, minus the insert songs, everyday

  9. gandalf8 says:

    I’m glad that you finally got through this one. The main draw of this series for me was always the well thought out and imaginative setting of the world. Especially the use of steampunk and chivalry, which at first glance looks rather out of place, is integrated beautifully into the well realized world of Last Exile. Only the storyline was a bit disappointing, which dragged at times, while the ending feels rushed. I’m okay with leaving some things to the interpretation of the audience, but I was not satisfied with how little explanation is given on the significance of the Exile and why controlling it is so important.

    If there is one thing that screams “epic” in Last Exile, it is the aerial battles. From huge floating battleships that fight with cannons and musketeers using steam powered rifles, to aerial dogfights between vanships and those advanced Guild fighters, every battle was intricately planned and well executed. The battles are won by strategy, and not just brute force. My most favorite battle was the one between the Silvana and the Urbanus fleet at the Dragon’s Fangs. Now that was one intense battle, with both captains striving to outwit and outmaneuver each other. Even outnumbered and seemingly outgunned, Alex’s tactical acumen and sheer guile managed to save the Silvana. This battle will probably remain as one of the most epic battle in anime in my book.

    One part that I would love to see expanded in the sequel is about the Vanship pilots and their missions. Claus and Lavie’s fellow vanship pilots were imo very underutilised in the original series. In fact, I wouldn’t even mind if the first half of the series (hoping that it’ll be 2-cour) focuses solely on the Vanship pilots, and the missions that they undertake.

  10. Kyubey says:

    @Alec: I thought it was vastly overrated too. In fact, the plot was so forgettable that I don’t even remember it.

  11. hairgreen says:

    The plot is not the worst I’ve seen; the annoying characters are the problem.

  12. hairgreen says:

    @alec not overrated? Take a few years back even narutards were raving about this piece of crap.

  13. phuzy says:

    One of my first anime series, actually. I’ve loved Range Murata’s work, ever since.

  14. AKI says:

    Finally, you have watched Last Exile! One of the best anime I’ve seen in years. Getting thru the first few episodes requires a lot of patience but once you get to the “meat” of the story, you’ll be satisfied. It won’t be on my top ten (not perfect of course) but the eyecandy on this series is unmatched, even after a full decade after it’s released. I would say that this was once of Gonzo’s ambitious series when it was released – and it didn’t disappoint (I’m talking dvd sales of course).

  15. @Alec says:

    @hairgreen: okay, having characters you personally don’t like makes this anime a piece of crap? Oh God, who knows how many animes you’ve labeled as “piece of crap”

    lemme guess, the list involves honey and clover, cowboy bebop & gankutsuou

  16. hairgreen says:

    @alec how dare you to compare last exile to cowboy bebop.

  17. Watcherzero says:

    I just loved the original influence of Greek in the style (when in most anime its German influenced). Wasnt a huge fan of the main charachters apart from the little girl and crew of the Silvana, the princess in particular you really felt how she was competing with a dead girlfreind always. Many series have done the people on an ark ship going backwards but I dont think any have ever done it this well or kept the suspense of that reveal so long.

  18. psgels psgels says:

    Kids, please try to at least be civil. There’s no need to fly at each other’s throat just because your opinions differ.

  19. Alec says:

    @hairgreen: I just figure you found Ed annoying, hence being part of the list.

    And besides Cowboy Bebop is overrated. There’s too much hype put into it compared to last exile.

  20. Alec says:

    There were a few things left unexplained in the series, like how or why Alvis is the key to last exile. But I guess it no longer mattered in the end

  21. hairred says:

    @alec yeah right CB is overrated.

  22. Guest says:

    I enjoyed this anime up until the unnecessarily vague end. Not perfect, but very enjoyable.

    One thing Last Exile really brought home to me is that there has to be a “how to make anime targeted at the foreign market” checklist the animation studios use for some projects.

    Obvious items I’d include on the list are:
    – (i) is the name in English? or at least translatable into something easy to say in English?
    – (ii) is there minimal-to-no fanservice?
    – (iii) is romance omitted, or at most alluded to but kept implicit and offscreen?
    – (iv) are characters of varied, largely non-asian ethnicities?
    – (v) are characters drawn in ways that “look right” (asians with black hair, europeans with other colors, etc.)?
    – (vi) is violence largely bloodless / gore-less?
    – (vii) is the setting outside of asia? or, if set in asia, the does the plot not really depend on being asian in any way (“it could’ve been set anywhere…”)?
    – (viii) are the main characters largely adults, or at least no longer enrolled in primary (k12) education?

    …etc., with the commercial logic being that if you get it right you can probably at least break even domestically and have a shot at making megabucks by creating the next Cowboy Bebop or Ghost In the Shell style overseas sensation.

    So: Last Exile, Fullmetal Alchemist, Darker than Black, Baccano!, Planetes, Death Note, etc., all would do pretty well on this checklist; Bakemonogatari, Toaru Majutsu no Index, Madoka, etc. (and many others) would do pretty poorly.

    This isn’t meant as a criticism per-se, it’s just that Last Exile was the one that made this pattern / presumptive checklist apparent for me.

  23. Alec says:

    I’d like to put overrated in 2 categories — the crappy overrated and the good but still overrated. I’d like to think that both exile and cb are in the latter

  24. missi says:

    I read so many times on this blog about “overrated” and “underrated” anime. What does it mean? What is a “underrated” anime? One that is SO INCREDIBLY good, but most viewers are to dumb to recognize its greatness (or don’t have enough patience to sit through 10 episodes until the real “meat” of the story comes)? The word itself is ridiculous. If an anime is not liked enough, there is a reason for it (most of the time there are MANY reasons)! It just doesn’t appeal to a greater audience. And when it comes to “overrated” anime, they DO appeal to a greater audience!!! Period.

    I personally liked the visuals and the music of Last Exil. But the storytelling was pretty lame. So I never finished it. Maybe I should try it again.

  25. ender650 says:

    I really disliked the ending of Last Exile but the animation was very good at the time and still looks decent. The steampunk setting is interesting, and I’m sure anyone who likes steampunk would enjoy the show just because of the world its set in.

  26. Scruffy says:

    @Guest. TBH I don’t think that Japanese studios ever make that much money from overseas sales, mainly due to the price that overseas buyers are willing to pay. For example look at the price for PMMM. The first BluRay has sold ~65,000 copies and was selling for around $100 USD. That included just TWO episodes!!!! There’s no way that overseas sales can ever match that sort of money.

  27. Cholisose says:

    Ah, Last Exile is a great series–one of the first anime I was ever into. The setting is wonderful, and there was a great variety of characters. I had to watch the show a couple times though to really get what was going on.
    I’m excited for the sequel series (or OVA?) that is coming out soon.

  28. Hades says:

    Not a fan of Gonzo, but well this is one of their best works (since most of Gonzo animes are decent/mediocre to begin with). I’d put Last Exile below Gankutsuou and NHK. The rest of Gonzo’s anime didn’t pelease me that much. Why so much hate this?

    CB overrated?!… this section is about Last Exile, don’t bring animes that don’t have anything to do with the discussion about Last Exile.

  29. Hades says:

    Not a fan of Gonzo, but well this is one of their best works (since most of Gonzo animes are decent/mediocre to begin with). I’d put Last Exile below Gankutsuou and NHK. The rest of Gonzo’s anime didn’t pelease me that much. Why so much hate this?

    CB overrated?!… this section is about Last Exile, don’t bring animes that don’t have anything to do with the discussion about Last Exile.

  30. DangerMouse says:

    Great to see this finally get watched/reviewed by you psgels! :)

    Totally agree gandalf8. Hit on so many of my favorite points about the series. Such a great series.

    “Yay so glad you finally watched and reviewed this! :3 Last Exile is a very special series to me, and it made me fall in love with scifi/steampunk. I was very surprised to learn about Last Exile 2, but nevertheless ecstatic. ”

    Yeah, Last Exile is one of my all time favorite series and it’s incredibly designed and developed setting and visuals of the world, the ships/tech, characters and how they look and the fully realized flight suits and uniforms etc. remains one of the best I’ve seen.

    Can’t wait for the sweet surprise that was that announcement of a new Last Exile series and like Gandalf, I hope it’s getting a full 2-cour run like this first one did.

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I actually feel Aidan can do a good job on it. Sometimes been too exposed to the material may lead to clouded eyes.
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In general I think 50 episodes would be the most I'd watch for an anime, 39 seems ideal.
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Watched that whole series ages ago.
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Also while I can't remember which episode, Yang picks up a book with the author of the series' name on it.
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Arslan feels so lightweight by contrast/comparison.
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And I think, given your knowledge KTtravlos, that a series review of the new galactic heroes season would probably benefit from you writing it.
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I bring up the music in my earlier comment, because I can understand your reservations regarding the music choice in the remake.
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And certainly one of those shows, that going back to the first episode after finishing, gives a strong perspective just on how evolving the series was.
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*despite me not
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Despite not being monarchist , because the characters were human moreso than cartoon characters I couldn't hate on Reinhard.
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@Travlos: I suppose by the time it got to Julian's arc, I was surprised they were still bothering to fight but the fact that they were essentially the last bastion of their beliefs made it special.
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@Travlos: Sometimes when I just finish a show, its a case where I HAVE to jump online immediately after and excitedly ramble out an essay on it.
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@Kaiser ultimately LOGH for me was a decisive point in my political life, as I think it made the best defense of democracy in any form I have seen. And it worked partly because the opponent was presented in the best possible incarnation (Rienhard). Yang's continued adherence to democracy, despite recongising its flaws, helped me avoid a personal descent into authoritarian politics.
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@Kaiser. I am happy you had a good experience. I watched the prequels a while after the main show and I was happy because it was great getting back to those characters. The prequels were also great in fleshing the setting and the characters. So yes, take your time and a break. That way the prequels will be like visiting a place you liked again after a while.
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@KTtravlos: I have some other stuff to get through before watching the galactic heroes prequel though =<
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@Vonter; Not that I oppose captilistically made for a buck cinema, it can be entertaining yes, but I set a standard.
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@Vonter: As open as I am to trash cinema, I consider the resident evil films, like the superhero ones, anti-art.
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I can understand why people don't like Villier, but he did I think work as a device to add extra tension.
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I feel some release at finishing but at the same time sadness at saying goodbye to the show and its characters.
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, showing its age.
But for something of this length, it kept itself up far better than most long shows and I feel the length its somewhat justified.

On another note….as corny as the third ending theme is, I got the feels listening to it.
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But while the first 50 odd episodes were an easy job for me aswell as all of the 4th season and some of the late 3rd season made it difficult for me to pull myself away from it, the dialogue even though often well observed did become difficult to follow at times and somewhere in the middle theres a stretch of episodes, bar some moments that feel a bit of an endurance test and the animation is at
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Its attention to detail I felt was at its strongest in the documentary and the series dedication to filling the view in on its world building/fictional history.
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I admired the scope, ambition of this series and the battles eventually grew on me and I was surprised by just how visceral the melee combat got which suited me perfectly. At the same time for all the strategy and action, I found myself more in it for the story, characters and intrigue/politicking. Those battles, due in part to their music choices, had an epic feel to them
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In the end the characters stood out for me the best were Reinhard, Oberstein (for being essentially the amazing man with the plan), Reuntal, Kircheis and Rubinsky, I warmed up to Julian, Yang and Schenkop. When important deaths occurred, they felt highly dramatic, in four cases emotionally effecting for me .
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Also, KTtravlos, thank you for pushing me toward watching the original legend of the galactic heroes, my opinion on the series is largely a mixed one, but by the end I felt I’d watched something rewarding and I’m happy its crossed off my list and I should have gotten round to it sooner.
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I'm probably the oldest here, being 32. Which apparently makes me around Yang-wenli's age, which according to someone means I'm middle aged .
Kaiser-Eoghan
To the discord guy who brought it up, its difficult not for me to be political, my father was an activist and is a Marxist , I ended up becoming a contradiction a semi-agnostic, but spiritually inclined/tolerant socialist with internationalist ideology.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Ends in very cliffhanger/abrupt indy way though and the things weakness/how to kill thems too easy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I liked how it explains nothing also and the creature design and how it visual communicates to the audience.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: While I won't say anything, a character death is handled in what I considered a schmaltzy manner. There is a particularly headscratching decision the characters make that you'll either rationalize or hate, but it leads to one of the tenser set pieces later on.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Quiet place has a good idea at its backbone, that they use sign language in the film to communicate and occassional whispers adds to it, it and the silence allows for a mood to be effectively communicated. It does have jump scares, I wasn't annoyed by them, but I never felt the film required them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I read the discord, if you ever need to ask a question relating to film, come to me about it, I will without fail be able to answer 9 times out of 10.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was adequately amused by the first episode of wotaku, but found the male lead funnier, which I'm attributing to him be more deadpan.
Lenlo
We found a convient weekend for everyone
Kaiser-Eoghan
*watching
Kaiser-Eoghan
I would also float the idea of recommendation podcasts every now and then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will listen to the podcast more in full later. But I was surprised after asking/suggesting it on the discord, that it came so soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am thinking of re-watching gasaraki and ai yori aoshi.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Niello: Perhaps after a while of watch the anime I will simply jump on to the manga.
Vonter
I watched Resident Evil: Vendetta yesterday. It's incredible dumb but kind of fun. I do wonder if in terms of entertainment are like the best videogame based movies. Since it plays like a videogame, it's based on a videogame and is more or less in line with the tone the series has had for a while.
niello
It's such a shame that Golden Kamuy art direction is such a train wreck.
KTravlos
and for the sake of Clausewitz there is clinical term for what Reinhard did. It is called "defeat in detail". Napoleon was a master of it. Proper way to defeat it , is to order the threatened force to retreat to a point where other allied forces are converging. The enemy will either have to retreat, or fight at a disadvantage. The 1813 and 1814 campaigns against Napoleon are examples of that.
KTravlos
Episode 2 of LOGGH: Der Neue Thesis was much better than the first. The music is still an issue, but Yang was well portrayed. I do think there is lack of the directors in showing the cruelty of war, like the first one did. We will see.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Still need to see his short films and black Peter.
Amagi
@Anon: I already know the manga and enjoy it, think the anime is a good adaption so far. Feels good to see a series about video games that are actually just games and romance without tsunderes, tons of blushing or unworldly naive harem girls.
Anonymous2016456
the anime
Anonymous2016456
how do you guys think of wotakoi?
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Hereditary sounds pretty promising here
Kaiser-Eoghan
Forman's an interesting case, when you look at the huge disconnect from his early films from the 60s and then what he went on to make.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, unfortunately I am not a fan of country music so Nashville didn't appeal to me =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: And before Jack kept playing the same role over and over.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Aside from Courtney Love's presence, Larry Flynt is an excellent film. I love the custom camera tricks Kubrick used in Lyndon , dog day afternoon suceeded for me because it did so much more than being just a bank rob film. I wish Spielberg would return to his pre-90s films .
SuperMario
Cuckoo's Nest reminds me of the great 1975 Oscar Best Picture, which for me was Oscar's greatest line-up. The line-ups for that year were: Cuckoo Nest (winner), Nashville, Barry Landon, Dog Day Afternoon and Jaws
SuperMario
@Kaiser: RIP the man. I've seen 2 of his, Amadeus and Cuckoo Nest. Both great but they were more because of the strength of the source
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Milos forman has died =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
Indeed the character designs in steins; gate have seen changes....shockingly mayuri's chest is larger than Daru's ;)
KTravlos
I can live with that. Interested to see what made you reserved.
SuperMario
@KTravlos: you won't agree with my series review then. I have a lot of reservations on VE
KTravlos
Also I finished Violet Evergarden. This was an exceptional series in my book.
KTravlos
the two characters. Finally the battle soundtrack was simply wrong.

I am going to watch it because it is LOGH. And frankly after watching the new one I felt the fact that the old one was dated technical wise (but not in music). But at least on comparison of first episodes, the old one did a better job at giving depth to Reinhard and Keircheis.
KTravlos
well I watched the first episode of the new LOGH and then watched the first episode of the older version. The update in the art is good..but. If the old one was too talky, this one is too boom boom. I also felt that they did not sue the time well to establish Reihard and Kircheis well. Especially the removal of some lines that were in the first episode of the original, really took away a lot from
SuperMario
@Amagi: I can see your point but what a premise for Golden Kamuy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although golden kamuy is labeled seinen, which gives me some more hope for it.
SuperMario
@Amagi: agree with you about remembering stuffs you've watched. For me, it's always until the second watch that I can remember the plot or characters clearly. Otherwise, all will get hazy like a dream
Anonymous2011116
@Anon Watch a few eps and then male an informed decision based on that; I find the storytelling to be a bit weak but you might not feel the same
AidanAK47
@Anon, If you can ignore the rather odd fanservice and sex symbolism it's actually a pretty enjoyable show with good animation whose story has been getting better.
Amagi
Think it's always the best to watch the first episode since other people might hate something you will love or vice versa.
Amagi
@Anon: For me it still feels like Kiznaiver but I think it really depends on how much you care about the characters and teen relationship deama.
Anonymous2010671
Hey is Darlin the Franxx actually good? It looked kind of just like an ecchi mecha series, but just kind of glancing at the reviews over here makes me think it's more than I'm giving it credit for
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