Posted by psgels on 20 June 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews

Okay, so I finally managed to finish this series. I can now understand why when it first aired in 2003, it made quite an impact. It had this unique charm and excellent CG animation that actually still holds up today. It’s got a few problems, but overall it’s a unique adventure series.

The big strength of Last Exile is that it’s inspired and imaginative in just about every single way: it’s heavily influenced by the Miyazaki flying movies, but it managed to build its own original setting around that: there are original ideas behind just about every facet of this show, the designs too are just completely unique (with excellent CG to back this up). This is a wondrous journey from start to finish.

Now, beyond the ideas, this show also has the execution to back it up. I want to specifically praise the characters and the acting, who too feel unlike other shows of its kind. To best explain this: the dialogue feels much more natural and balanced than what you usually see in anime, making good use of pauses and nonverbal communication as well. The drama in particular is really well delivered thanks to this.

In terms of the story, this is a bit of a strange one, though. It’s the kind of series that really dislikes exposition, and keeps most of this as brief as possible. Because of this, a lot of the stuff in this series is left to the imagination as to “how and why” they happen.

Due to the acting, another interesting effect is that some characters go completely against their supposed archetypes. The one big exception is the main villain who really is an evil megalomaniac no matter how you cut it, but characters like Lavie, Mullin, and even Alex Rowe: they really know their characters and don’t try to be anything more for the sake of some extra forced drama. I really appreciate that, but because of that this series does have a few points where it drags because of that. It does come together wonderfully for the ending, though.

The strange thing with this series is that it may not be the most exciting series. And despite the solid acting, there are certain moments in the story that do feel forced. And yet, now that I’ve finished watching this show, it feels so complete. The end of this series really feels like the end of a long journey, and yet I can fully see a second season that focuses on a completely new cast work; the setting is more than rich enough for that. I wouldn’t call this amongst Gonzo’s best; they made too many classics for that, but it still makes the top 7 and it’s definitely a great show to watch.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Lots and lots of style. A bit one-sided at times, but never really drags.
Characters: 9/10 – Characters who fit the setting incredibly well. Very natural dialogue and voice acting.
Production-Values: 9/10 – This show is eight years old and still looks unique and amazing. You don’t often get to say that about 3D CG in a tv-series.
Setting: 9/10 – The setting still stands on its own with great ideas and a detailed description. It leaves things unexplained, but gets a nine because it really speaks to the imagination.

Shangri-La (just note that while Last Exile is really subtle, Shangri-la most definitely isn’t).
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31 Responses

  1. Joe Bob says:

    I think you might have switched the production values and setting ratings.

  2. Meep says:

    Yay so glad you finally watched and reviewed this! :3 Last Exile is a very special series to me, and it made me fall in love with scifi/steampunk. I was very surprised to learn about Last Exile 2, but nevertheless ecstatic.

  3. psgels psgels says:

    Ack, forgot a nine there. Took me a long while to debate whether to rate this one 85/100 or 87,5/100, which lead to that typo…

  4. ojisan says:

    Good assessment. The story itself seems to be made of poorly hinged sections, but it’s a fully believable world, and a wonderful experience to watch. I have a big weakness for ‘new worlds without exposition’ – speaking of which, perhaps Xam’d could join Simoun as a Suggestion –

  5. Yay, glad you finally got around to it (although ironically it looks like this is going to be a fall show now *headdesk*) and glad that you enjoyed it. I watched it recently and was glad to see how much I still liked it but you hit the nail on the head when you said that it hates exposition, a lot of events in that ending made no sense (I mean, one of the characters who appeared to have died in the ending actually lived, I never would have known that if I hadn’t looked up stuff online).
    Now, all we need you to do now is watch Princess Tutu sometime and all will be right in the world. >:D

  6. yeah I had to watch the show twice to actually GET the ending, about the world/space station they were on, and the exile itself…its funny becuase they gave hints about it all throughout the series, but had to watch it a second time to notice it!

  7. hairgreen says:

    got be the worst overrated gonzo-savior shit ever made….

  8. Alec says:

    @hairgreen: Overrated? care to explain why it’s overrated? I seem to think of it as underrated.

    beside Gonzo was already famous/rich before they even made Last Exile

    Last Exile… my fav. anime of all time. I still listen to it’s songs, minus the insert songs, everyday

  9. gandalf8 says:

    I’m glad that you finally got through this one. The main draw of this series for me was always the well thought out and imaginative setting of the world. Especially the use of steampunk and chivalry, which at first glance looks rather out of place, is integrated beautifully into the well realized world of Last Exile. Only the storyline was a bit disappointing, which dragged at times, while the ending feels rushed. I’m okay with leaving some things to the interpretation of the audience, but I was not satisfied with how little explanation is given on the significance of the Exile and why controlling it is so important.

    If there is one thing that screams “epic” in Last Exile, it is the aerial battles. From huge floating battleships that fight with cannons and musketeers using steam powered rifles, to aerial dogfights between vanships and those advanced Guild fighters, every battle was intricately planned and well executed. The battles are won by strategy, and not just brute force. My most favorite battle was the one between the Silvana and the Urbanus fleet at the Dragon’s Fangs. Now that was one intense battle, with both captains striving to outwit and outmaneuver each other. Even outnumbered and seemingly outgunned, Alex’s tactical acumen and sheer guile managed to save the Silvana. This battle will probably remain as one of the most epic battle in anime in my book.

    One part that I would love to see expanded in the sequel is about the Vanship pilots and their missions. Claus and Lavie’s fellow vanship pilots were imo very underutilised in the original series. In fact, I wouldn’t even mind if the first half of the series (hoping that it’ll be 2-cour) focuses solely on the Vanship pilots, and the missions that they undertake.

  10. Kyubey says:

    @Alec: I thought it was vastly overrated too. In fact, the plot was so forgettable that I don’t even remember it.

  11. hairgreen says:

    The plot is not the worst I’ve seen; the annoying characters are the problem.

  12. hairgreen says:

    @alec not overrated? Take a few years back even narutards were raving about this piece of crap.

  13. phuzy says:

    One of my first anime series, actually. I’ve loved Range Murata’s work, ever since.

  14. AKI says:

    Finally, you have watched Last Exile! One of the best anime I’ve seen in years. Getting thru the first few episodes requires a lot of patience but once you get to the “meat” of the story, you’ll be satisfied. It won’t be on my top ten (not perfect of course) but the eyecandy on this series is unmatched, even after a full decade after it’s released. I would say that this was once of Gonzo’s ambitious series when it was released – and it didn’t disappoint (I’m talking dvd sales of course).

  15. @Alec says:

    @hairgreen: okay, having characters you personally don’t like makes this anime a piece of crap? Oh God, who knows how many animes you’ve labeled as “piece of crap”

    lemme guess, the list involves honey and clover, cowboy bebop & gankutsuou

  16. hairgreen says:

    @alec how dare you to compare last exile to cowboy bebop.

  17. Watcherzero says:

    I just loved the original influence of Greek in the style (when in most anime its German influenced). Wasnt a huge fan of the main charachters apart from the little girl and crew of the Silvana, the princess in particular you really felt how she was competing with a dead girlfreind always. Many series have done the people on an ark ship going backwards but I dont think any have ever done it this well or kept the suspense of that reveal so long.

  18. psgels psgels says:

    Kids, please try to at least be civil. There’s no need to fly at each other’s throat just because your opinions differ.

  19. Alec says:

    @hairgreen: I just figure you found Ed annoying, hence being part of the list.

    And besides Cowboy Bebop is overrated. There’s too much hype put into it compared to last exile.

  20. Alec says:

    There were a few things left unexplained in the series, like how or why Alvis is the key to last exile. But I guess it no longer mattered in the end

  21. hairred says:

    @alec yeah right CB is overrated.

  22. Guest says:

    I enjoyed this anime up until the unnecessarily vague end. Not perfect, but very enjoyable.

    One thing Last Exile really brought home to me is that there has to be a “how to make anime targeted at the foreign market” checklist the animation studios use for some projects.

    Obvious items I’d include on the list are:
    – (i) is the name in English? or at least translatable into something easy to say in English?
    – (ii) is there minimal-to-no fanservice?
    – (iii) is romance omitted, or at most alluded to but kept implicit and offscreen?
    – (iv) are characters of varied, largely non-asian ethnicities?
    – (v) are characters drawn in ways that “look right” (asians with black hair, europeans with other colors, etc.)?
    – (vi) is violence largely bloodless / gore-less?
    – (vii) is the setting outside of asia? or, if set in asia, the does the plot not really depend on being asian in any way (“it could’ve been set anywhere…”)?
    – (viii) are the main characters largely adults, or at least no longer enrolled in primary (k12) education?

    …etc., with the commercial logic being that if you get it right you can probably at least break even domestically and have a shot at making megabucks by creating the next Cowboy Bebop or Ghost In the Shell style overseas sensation.

    So: Last Exile, Fullmetal Alchemist, Darker than Black, Baccano!, Planetes, Death Note, etc., all would do pretty well on this checklist; Bakemonogatari, Toaru Majutsu no Index, Madoka, etc. (and many others) would do pretty poorly.

    This isn’t meant as a criticism per-se, it’s just that Last Exile was the one that made this pattern / presumptive checklist apparent for me.

  23. Alec says:

    I’d like to put overrated in 2 categories — the crappy overrated and the good but still overrated. I’d like to think that both exile and cb are in the latter

  24. missi says:

    I read so many times on this blog about “overrated” and “underrated” anime. What does it mean? What is a “underrated” anime? One that is SO INCREDIBLY good, but most viewers are to dumb to recognize its greatness (or don’t have enough patience to sit through 10 episodes until the real “meat” of the story comes)? The word itself is ridiculous. If an anime is not liked enough, there is a reason for it (most of the time there are MANY reasons)! It just doesn’t appeal to a greater audience. And when it comes to “overrated” anime, they DO appeal to a greater audience!!! Period.

    I personally liked the visuals and the music of Last Exil. But the storytelling was pretty lame. So I never finished it. Maybe I should try it again.

  25. ender650 says:

    I really disliked the ending of Last Exile but the animation was very good at the time and still looks decent. The steampunk setting is interesting, and I’m sure anyone who likes steampunk would enjoy the show just because of the world its set in.

  26. Scruffy says:

    @Guest. TBH I don’t think that Japanese studios ever make that much money from overseas sales, mainly due to the price that overseas buyers are willing to pay. For example look at the price for PMMM. The first BluRay has sold ~65,000 copies and was selling for around $100 USD. That included just TWO episodes!!!! There’s no way that overseas sales can ever match that sort of money.

  27. Cholisose says:

    Ah, Last Exile is a great series–one of the first anime I was ever into. The setting is wonderful, and there was a great variety of characters. I had to watch the show a couple times though to really get what was going on.
    I’m excited for the sequel series (or OVA?) that is coming out soon.

  28. Hades says:

    Not a fan of Gonzo, but well this is one of their best works (since most of Gonzo animes are decent/mediocre to begin with). I’d put Last Exile below Gankutsuou and NHK. The rest of Gonzo’s anime didn’t pelease me that much. Why so much hate this?

    CB overrated?!… this section is about Last Exile, don’t bring animes that don’t have anything to do with the discussion about Last Exile.

  29. Hades says:

    Not a fan of Gonzo, but well this is one of their best works (since most of Gonzo animes are decent/mediocre to begin with). I’d put Last Exile below Gankutsuou and NHK. The rest of Gonzo’s anime didn’t pelease me that much. Why so much hate this?

    CB overrated?!… this section is about Last Exile, don’t bring animes that don’t have anything to do with the discussion about Last Exile.

  30. DangerMouse says:

    Great to see this finally get watched/reviewed by you psgels! :)

    Totally agree gandalf8. Hit on so many of my favorite points about the series. Such a great series.

    “Yay so glad you finally watched and reviewed this! :3 Last Exile is a very special series to me, and it made me fall in love with scifi/steampunk. I was very surprised to learn about Last Exile 2, but nevertheless ecstatic. ”

    Yeah, Last Exile is one of my all time favorite series and it’s incredibly designed and developed setting and visuals of the world, the ships/tech, characters and how they look and the fully realized flight suits and uniforms etc. remains one of the best I’ve seen.

    Can’t wait for the sweet surprise that was that announcement of a new Last Exile series and like Gandalf, I hope it’s getting a full 2-cour run like this first one did.

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@Mario, starting to think I didn't need my help after all. I hope they make something worthwhile.
On a unrelated note the Dark Souls 3 DLC boss is serious bullshit.
Hey Aidan, thqt Kickstarter project Mecha-ude has passed its goal (nearly double now with 10 more days to go). Seems like people getting real hype for it
Wonder if Bam has played the new Dark Souls DLC. Found it rather lacking when compared to previous DLC from the last games.
@Anon, it's just a video of a still image of anime girls in bikini's with a red circle around one of their chests. Seeing as this thing has no views or subscribers my guess is someones is fishing for views. To which i say...what really is the point of making videos if this is the only way you can get people to watch them?
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I"] hate this crap that they corrupt anime with (crappy video that insults anime)
So RWBY's back. I actually miss the whole RWBY team. Still prefer Ruby's old custom more. Nora looks cool.
With the fourth episode, Vivid Strike seems to have crossed an invisible line that makes it more like the original Nanoha shows rather than Vivid. The kind of brutal beatdown delivered by the co-protagonist and the build up to it is something quite alien to a normal SoL/Sports anime show.
Ep. 4 of Tiger Mask was a lot better than the last 3, quite a hyped fight that was a full 6mins long. Will continue watching in hope of an awesomely long final fight.
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Going back to the fanservice topic, its very easy to complain about it in anything but then something actually comes along that actually does it for you. I mean I always say that I don't watch a show/movie for its fanservice elements and stick with pictures on image boards, but then I ended up seeing a film where I actually got something out of the fanservice while watching the film its.
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The oujia prequel was competent genre fare, the director cared about the characters and every now and the built up a decent mood. Although jump Scares are there . And I always appreciate a horror film having a mean spirited ending. One of the rare cases where the young actors do well in a horror film. The pace is a bit uneven, rushed and a bit laggy .
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In the sense of how messed up/especially bleak those two episodes were.
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There was the sense too with both those episodes of "Jesus...I wasn't ready for that...."
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Though the first episode of the first season and the third episode of season 3 are very hard to beat. Adding to what I thought of s3 ep3 I felt that one hit me on the same level as s1 ep1 did so.
Though in previous seasons I generally only really liked 2 out of the 3.
@Kaiser, though the previous seasons where only 3 episodes long and you enjoyed 3 out of 6 in this season. So yo essentially get the same amount of enjoyment as previous seasons.
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Based on my comments, it looks like I had a mixed reaction to the third season. Three out of six, but the great was was great and forgives it but I still feel that there was more of a consistentancy in quality in the other seasons. I enjoyed every story in seasons 1 and 2.
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The final episode felt like a movie all on its own, I'd have gladly watched another thirty minutes of it, ending was a nice punch in the gut.
Just finished black mirror season 3. I hear people basically complaining that it's not as strong as the previous two season but I disagree. I really enjoyed this and this is a show that deserves much more episodes. Personal favorite is between shut up and dance and hated in the nation. Worst I thought was San Junipero. Overall thought each episode was interesting.
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On the upside I loved black mirrors fifth episode, I'm a sucker for war/action-dramas and I particularly liked the tech in this one.
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Yeah this is impossible for me to sit through, the romance part is also rather dull.
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Eh, this fourth episode is plodding and trite, feels like a bad, poorly dated 90s film.
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@Aidan: Third episode also instilled a great sense of paranoia.
@Kaiser: thanks for that mate. I have too much to say for Flipflappers but to put them all in coherent flow is goddamn hard. And like I said I still fell I left many details out: that gung-ho potato or Yayaka and the twins
@Friend: jugding from the last convention I went to, people loved Re:Zero customs (Emilia and Rem, Ram were highlights. Or you could try RWBY characters (I for once love to see someone cosplay Pirrha Nikos or Velvet Scarlatina)
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@Aidan: Didn't care much for new black mirrors second episode, then again I'm not really the target for that story. The third episode while a bit heavyhanded and predictable was suspenseful, nasty/mean and I liked that about it, did in 50 minutes what some thrillers fail to achieve in two hours.
Holo is a good one :0
Materials aren't a problem at all for the most part, except for anything too crazy like working in brass. I'd prefer it to be characters I'm familiar with.
Does it matter to you that they're from shows that you like, or are you just in it for the challenge?
@Friend Aidan has some good ones there. I'd also give the cast of Akame ga Kiru a shot, I don't like the series but it has a lot of neat character designs.
I was thinking simple as I didn't know what kind of materials you got on hand. I was also thinking of Holo from spice and wolf or Kino from Kinos journey either.
Mm, Tatsumaki might be not challenging enough to design for. Doesn't Shiki simply wear either a coat or Japanese kimono? I do work in set design and not in character prop design, but I'd love to try something that would let me reasonably challenge myself.
@Friend, Spit balling here but Tatsumaki from One Punch Man? I know the costume for that one would be simple enough. Or maybe Shiki from Kara No Kyoukai?
*I don't want to do anything too complex for my first try, but I also don't want to do anything boring. Boring would be a character like Rukia or Celty. Any ideas?
I remember talking about this with Emma/Kaiser before, but has anyone here gone cosplaying at an expo before? I thought it would be neat to try designing my own costume and try something else beside drawing on a computer.
@Kaiser, I am up to episode 4. 3 has been the best one so far.Though in all these episodes I pretty much figured out the twist from the get go. Still this shows always tends to get you thinking.
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I think the roles/identity thing with flipflappers, at least with the protaganist does fit in well with adolescence.
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@Aidan: I've only seen the first episode so far. I felt the acting was intentional and reflected the satire Brooker was going for on the shallow nature of society. Bleak as ever but gloriously grotesque.
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@Mario:Good in depth reviewing there Mario of flipflappers episode three.
Good god this first episode of black mirror is hard to watch. I know exactly how it's going to turn out but it's just so damn painful to watch.
Well, tbh up to where I've seen there's not much explicit yaoi in yuri on ice, only a lot of fujoshi fuel.
@Kaiser. thanks for the torrent. Gonna blaze through this today.
@Topgavin, as someone who watches a metric ton of anime I am rather surprised at that estimate that 90% of it contains Yuri.
My god those gay scenes in Yuri on Ice are hard to watch for me. Wonder if this is how it feels to be a girl watching 90% of normal anime nowadays.
okay, Flip Flappers episodic review was up. This is my lengthiest weekly review so far and I still feel I missed a lot of points. Damn you Flip Flappers
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You have seen the light, not needing to know everything thats happening to enjoy something ^_^
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I've given some consideration to reviewing that oujia film followup.
Whether you see one or the other is entirely up to your preferences, so it makes no difference to me which is worse. I have gotten very tired of generic character types, but again that's just because of the things I decide to regularly follow.
I will say if it must come down to either unnatural dialogue or unnatural character types, at leas the character type is speaking their own words and not the words of the script writer.
Or was that a black and white fallacy? Maybe it was a little of both.
@Realjustified, K-Off wasn't agreeing with me. That's a Moving the Goal Posts logical Fallacy but well I will answer regardless. Honestly it's preferable to have neither. The big mistake you are making here is that you are putting down a condiction that a show must have one or the other. But both cartoons and anime can have both. I just think it's a lot more prominent in cartoons than anime.
Like, having read hundreds of harem manga over the years, a majority of the ultimate love interest always happens to be the first girl the protagonist meets.
Wait wait wait wait. Aidan and K-Off. I get that dialogue in cartoon can seem like it was written by a script writer, but at the same time, lots of anime have characters whose sole purpose is entirely scripted. The whole spectrum of "deres" and everything. What do you think is worse? Unnatural dialogue, or unnatural character types?
You guys should really go fuck yourself, it's a solution and it's nothing short of great!
You guys should really watch the first 4 episodes of Bungo, it's a prequel and it was nothing short of great!
omg!! I just realized To be Hero was one of the show that I reviewed its 1st episode back in Chinese Animation post. I watched raw then though
forgive me if I'm a bit too overwhelmed by Flip Flappers... For this episode alone I took like 25 screenshots...trying to write a review now...
I have absolutely no idea what is going on in Flip Flappers plot. And yet for some reason I am OK with that.
Anyone out there that's a fan of crude humor should go watch ep.3 of To Be Hero. Certinately stepped it up a notch from the last two humor-wise.
One downside I can think of already is that I'm bound to lose or break one of the detachable controllers. The cost for those pieces is what I'm most interested in.
Nintendo Switch hmm? Honestly it looks too good to be true. I expect some major downsides to this thing.
I like cartoons, don't get me wrong. Certainly good for a change of pace. But there is something about the way they are written that I find rather distracting.
I don't know, maybe if I said it's like the difference from how characters talk in movie vs how characters talk in a sitcom?
@K-Off, I said one liner's or jokes. Not one liner jokes. It's hard to explain. Basically when I hear a conversation in anime even if it is based in stereotypes, it at least feels like a conversation that's being had in the moment. In cartoons however there is a layer of artificiality and it feels like characters know what a person is going to say and has a response prepared.
That's probably why some of my favorite anime in recent years haven't been very heavy on character archetypes, or were either parodies of it.
Comedic dialogue with anime in recent years have leaned too much on the idea of playing off character archetypes. The collected character vs the energetic character, for one. I'd like to see more variety. Some more word play, hyperbolic humor, body humor, etc etc.
@Aidan Not quite sure what you mean by that, because it's certainly not even a majority of cartoons that rely on cheap one liner jokes. I suppose it's entirely up to taste, but I can appreciate the energy in cartoons like Steven Universe or Regular Show when compared to the increasingly repetitive dialogue found in some recent anime.
@Topgavin: I just read that review and his main reason being Shelter is pretentious. oh well! Can't never please anyone.
Thought I'd check out the reviews for Shelter on MAl and the top review is a 1/10. Apparently because it's a cute girl we sympathise with her more, which is bad because reasons. I mean.. what? MAL never ceases to amaze me
@Mario, no. It's more that the dialogue keeps trying to push out one liners or jokes regardless of whose talking.
@Aidan: maybe because they spoke in your native language do you can feel that it's artificial, ya know? I know I have the same problem with Vietnamese drama/ cartoon and maybe Japanese people have that same issues with anime?
By which I mean, the way characters talk in cartoons is very...artificial. Like you can tell that the dialgoue was clearly written beforehand and it never really sounds natural. At least to me.
@Anon, I wouldn't. The writing and structure are too cartoon. What with the episodic nature and dialogue that generally pushes for a comedic tone.
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Flanagan also directed absentia which I haven't seen yet but I think someone I came across of 4chan linked it to being lovecraftian?
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Oculus was a film of two halves for me. Hush was a pretty standard home invasion thriller, making the victim deaf was an interesting twist but not as unique as you might think, still suspenseful though.
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I never saw the first oujia film. Though Mike Flanagan who did the sequel, he's never made a bad movie but he's never really made a great one either.
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I stick to the firm belief that cartoons and anime, visually should do and be their own thing. I'll prefer a western artstyle for cartoons rather than one pretending to look like anime style.
But this is a good topic and I'm sure everyone has their own opinions so I'm looking to hear some more arguments
@anon352392: no they aren't. For me not because of where their production based, nor their intended audience, but rather their styles, both visually and storytelling-ly, are different
Anime,” they assert, is not a “style” of illustration or animation.
That's where I differ to those guys. For me, anime is a style. In that sense, I consider RWBY, and Canadian-produced short Flutter as an anime. Thunderbolt Fantasy is not and anime-influence shows/movies that are intented for Western audience like AniMatrix or Afro Samurai are anime
@Anon nah they wouldn't be because they aren't made by a japanese producer for the japanese market. Quality isn't the question, production is
NX and Red Dead Redemption 2 trailers tomorrow.
They are good series and i honestly like them alot more than most anime series, would their quality make them anime?
What about cartoons like Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces Of Evil?
In other news a sequel to an absolutely terrible horror movie called Ouija is out and it's...actually pretty good? Wondering if critics were paid off or it is legit good. Well it did have the guy who was behind Oculus and that was a pretty good movie.
Simplify the term down enough and anime is literally anything animated but the whole point of the term is to distinguish it. For to call Spongebob an anime makes me want to projectile vomit. Point is this, you say you watched a cartoon, people think Tom and jerry, Scooby doo etc. You say you watched an anime, people think Cowboy bebop, Attack on titan, etc. Whole point of the term.
For example, I don't consider Avatar or RWBY to be anime for while they use anime style, the writing is fundamentally structured like an American cartoon. Through I would consider Bloodivores an anime even though it was made by a Chinese animation company, making it technically a Chinese cartoon.
As far as what is and isn't anime I honestly think of the term as a means of distinguishing it from cartoon which gives the impression of being for children. It's like Graphic novel is to comic book. Though techically graphic novels are issues of comics bound in book form, the term Graphic novel is often used to distinguish works that go above superhero comics and whatnot.
Basically I think it was due to Porter Robinsons involvement that they didn't consider it anime.
@Aidan: Did the mods give any concrete reasons why they didn't consider it an anime?
@Mario, It wasn't the community that had the problem. It was the mods. The community made it pretty clear that they considered it anime.
So despite the art style is obviously anime, the character speaks in Japanese, and the production was animated by A1 Studios, it's not an anime? Sometimes I feel sad that the anime community keeps limiting themselves with such fixed minds.
I saw it yesterday and yes it was good. For a 5-minute story, they don't make it too overwhelme with details, and still pack an emotional punch. Moreover it elevates the song. Good stuffs.
Shelter was quite good though. It works well and the animation was beautiful. Song is not bad either. It's got a nice emotional punch to it though it's a bit simple a story.
Well anyway I only saw all this because I checked out the video for the first time and wanted to see how others thought of it with a quick scan through reddit. And I get this shitshow instead.
Playing the victim is the one really pisses off the internet. For refusing to admit you f*cked up only encourages people to shove how you f*cked up into your face. That's what really grinds peoples gears.
Yep, seen that too. The mods even put up another tread about the video and tried to guilt trip people by saying they got death threats. Look, internet rules 101. If you said or did something stupid admit to it and just walk away. Do not try to deflect blame or play the victim, that only adds fuel to the fire.
@Aidan oh yeah saw that live lol. Porter himself even commented on twitter about it, gotta love internet drama
So did anyone happen to catch the big old shitstorm of that Shelter music music when a mod of the Anime subreddit decided it wasn't "Anime" enough and removed the discussion post about it? Oh internet drama...what silly nonsense.
Finally caught up with JoJo. Diamond is Unbreakable has turned out to be much better than Stardust Crusaders. Should have waited for the season to finish through as I really loved marathoning it.
I had a feeling that might be the case considering the source materail for luger.
@Mario Oh I watched that, certinately worth it. Packed more story that some 12-episode shows do nowadays and gorgeous animation.
and I will check out "Shelter" music video to see what all the fuss is about
*this weekend to be exact.
Sounds like Luger Code 1951 is an OVA that will air next week, the same air date with "my" Zaregoto OVA.
@Mario: doesn't sound real at all to me lol
@Mario, I might be able to manage. If all else fails I can talk about the past of these historical figures.
While I don't mind watchinng Drifters, I swaer if I had to cover that show, I couldn't come up with anything to say.
Do you guys know what language the fairies speak in Drifters? It does sound like a genuine language
@topgavin: humanity has declined is a great show. It has good writing and dark, witty sense of humor. I could talk about it in length but psgels pretty much covered it all. He was really impressed by that show however.
That should be me covered till the weekend. Why do all my shows air on the weekend...
@Mario nah I've watched the whole thing but I'd heard about it at the start of this year and put it off. The dialogue between her and the fairies was great stuff, probably gonna rewatch it this weekend now that you mention it
Alright, I got three posts written up and will be throwing them out in about two hours or do.
I thought you've finished it. Yeah I love her character a lot, so cynical but witty. My favorite moment was when she read about fairy's plan to invent religions. She was like "so religions are invented?" (beat) "I've learn something new today". Priceless
@Mario Oh nice, it was one that I had heard about but never got round to. To put it in simple anime terms, Watashi is best girl
@topgavin: I just finished the series yo mentioned the other day: humanity is declined. Man, I love it. I know now I have a thing for dark twisted absurdist anime
@Ano340004: the name is Watashi ga Motete Dousunda, or to put it short Motete. I have fun with it but i'm not that enthuastic
@anon the english name is Kiss him, not me. Search through the first impressions if you need the jap name.
then that girl really loves BL (boy love)
what is the name of the anime that the girl is fat and then she got depressed because her favorite boy anime died then she got thin?
Season 7 is awesome so far too. It feels like the tone of the show is finally back to normal and it feels like Adventure Time again.
Whew, I binged all seasons of Adventure Time this weekend. The show hit a low spot in Season 6 but I think it needed to happen...Poor Finn needed the serious character development after what he did to FP.
You guys are too hard on it
Motete is very funny
Kaiser Eoghan
When it comes to gag manga and four-koma, I just eventually reach a stopping point with a comedy series in that format. Even with hidamari sketch.
I think it was typical light novel trash based on what was in the PV. I laughed that despite it being horrible that the crowd still cheered anyway, likely because it had a bath clip in it.
The PV was hilarious. I had no idea what the anime was about.
@Aidan I'm good, I'll stick with Working.
@K-Off, you could switch to something like Gi(a)rlish Number if you like. I for one am really digging the satire of the show. Plus I like that it's basically showing how an utter train-wreck of an anime can be made. That PV in the last episode was truly painful.
Feeling pretty disappointed with Working. I haven't gotten any more cynical with comedies, at least I don't think, and its flaws are so irritating.
@Adam Le, I find that with Comic book dialogue. Which is one of the reasons I have gone off marvel movies. Cartoons have it to a degree as well.
I love the instagram shots in Yuri
Maybe I can have a watch through those live action films and do a compare/contrast to see which version works better. After all movie and tv series are 2 different medium, and live-action vs animation is the topic that we never get tired of
speaking of which, the overlap between anime and live-action adaptation from manga is overwhelming. For this year alone, there were Erased, 3-gatsu no Lion, Fune o Amu, orange, and Chihayafuru (part 1&2). Those were just the ones I know.
@Adam: Don't know which genre you're into but you can try Fune o Amu (The Great Passage)
Adam Le
I can't seem to get into any of these new shows. I don't know, the dialogue always seems off to me and the forced comedy is a big turn off.
Reminds me of a thought I had when I was last at the Getty art museum. People walking past works of art hundreds of years old, but only taking a second-long glance before moving on to the next one. Not their fault really, it's only the professional critics who can understand what they see with depth.
I'm the opposite really, they're getting paid for what they said so they better know their shits
Kaiser Eoghan
I suppose I'm slightly envious of professional critics somewhat.
Sometimes you're just meant to experience the ride you know. I don't watch those explained video anymore because after all it's just one guy's opinions.
Kaiser Eoghan
Kaiser Eoghan
And I mean people who art professionals or students.
Kaiser Eoghan
I guess I'm just unsure of something, how many people watching "arty" stuff are able to pick it up on their own. By looking up an "explained video" or "explained essay" to get it, am I copping out?
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