Posted by psgels on 15 July 2011 with categories: Blood-C



And the third series I’m definitely going to blog this season: Blood-C. Before I decide on the others I first want to watch Dantalian no Shoka and Kami-Sama no Memo-chou’s second episode that air this evening. As a fan of Clamp though, I really like this series so far. It’s got a lot to like, but at the same time I can also understand that it’s not for everyone.

For the ones complaining that this is too slow, though: that’s pretty much both Clamp and Blood+, albeit in many different ways. Blood+ took a really long time to get going (like, 15 episodes or something), while Clamp’s stories are always filled with a lot of laid-back scenes, describing the different characters. It’s that kind of charm that I really like, because of how they always end up delivering upon it later, using the slice of life scenes to create memorable characters, even those who are supposedly one-sided at first. My only worry right now is the 13 episodes, but at the same time I’m very curious as what Clamp can do when they have less time than usual to work with.

Oh, and the fight scenes! This series definitely has the best action of the season. This is because you can actually see what happens: characters’ movements are detailed and actually anatomically correct. Saya really feels like she’s struggling with the enemies she fights, and instead of the cameras just focusing on some weird angle, they really allows us to see how she moves and tries to attack. This has been a knack of Production IG for ages now. I really feared that they abandoned this philosophy with Sengoku Basara, but thankfully Blood-C shows them once more animating some excellent down to earth fight scenes.

Now, the big potential pitfall for this series will be spending too much time on build-up, and (most importantly) too little on actually delivering. I liked this episode, though. The non-action bits were good slice of life, and felt very personal. The characterization was pretty good and down to earth, especially of the cast as a whole, and the characters talking to each other actually kept my attention throughout the episode. When describing the slice of life, the dialogue is actually quite natural, the characters discuss down to earth topics that actually secretly flesh them out really well. My only problem is that Saya acting embarrassed felt awkward. Her acting overall has its moments where it’s a bit weak.

Oh, and for the people who haven’t seen Blood+: don’t worry. It’s not yet sure whether or not this Saya is the same Saya as in Blood+, because we don’t know whether her father is telling the truth about actually being her father and all, but this really seems like an original story. There have been no references to other series
Rating: ** (Excellent)

28 Responses

  1. Frost says:

    On the other hand, this is the biggest disappointment of the season for me… Watched Blood+ long ago and liked it quite a bit, and this is just… Not even close

    I hate what they did to Saya… And this spends too much time on pointless school crap etc that no one cares about, then inserts a random fight at the end, which makes it feel like a boring monster of the week show

    Sigh…

  2. Ren3D says:

    The action in this show took me by surprise and has kept me interested. I do hope that the story arc starts picking up soon.

  3. Hogart says:

    It’s not so much that I’m disappointed with Blood-C being slow.. just that aside from a few not-quite-spectacular fights and some obvious foreshadowing, what’s happening is utterly trite and tedious. I just can’t help comparing to this Heartcatch Precure, and yet finding it underwhelming.

  4. AidanAK47 says:

    “using the slice of life scenes to create memorable characters”
    Ha…
    “The non-action bits were good slice of life, and felt very personal. The characterization was pretty good and down to earth, especially of the cast as a whole, and the characters talking to each other actually kept my attention throughout the episode. When describing the slice of life, the dialogue is actually quite natural, the characters discuss down to earth topics that actually secretly flesh them out really well.”
    Um…Psgels. Where we watching the same episode here? There is nothing memorable about these characters. They all feel like typical characters transplanted with personality traits of previous clamp characters. That conversation wasn’t natural at all and did nothing to explore the characters. All we got was some good fight animation and pointless banter. In other words, this was episode 1 rehashed. I spent the first 16 minutes in painstaking boredom.

    Psgels, I bet you will drop this show eventually. All and all if the next episode doesn’t give me a reason to give a damn about the a girl with a glaring lack of personality I am dropping it.

  5. Morgoth says:

    I can only agree with what AidanAK47 said and say that I totally disagree with your assessment of the slice-of-life in this series, psgels. These characters are a pain to watch not only because they are stereotypes but because the whole dialogues between them just seem… stupid. Or then there are moments when these school-friends seem like they are making fun of Saya without her realizing it. There’s for example this scene where Itsuki tries (again) to express his love for Saya, getting even an obvious encouragement from the twins and STILL Saya just doesn’t get it! Saya isn’t just this kind of unnerving moe-dump anymore, she just seems retarded by now.
    And Aidan also mentioned that already but to make an example how much of Ep 02 seemed like “more of the same” without real progress: There’s this banal scene between the dog and Saya where Saya just tries to get close to it and the dog flees at the last second. And now it happened twice (!) in two episodes, one such scene could be a hint to the importance of the dog in later episodes but letting this boring scene happen two times in the first two episodes is just obvious and dumb.
    This series is made to be slow and really depends on the characters and the dialogue but both these things just seem so obvious and stupid… I can only hope this series gets better once it arrives at the serious part.

  6. Tomtom says:

    I kind of second Frost and Aidan, there is not a lot going on so far. On the other had, this show did remind me to pick up blood+, which I’m enjoying (25 episodes in).

  7. Gintoki says:

    Even as a Clamp fan, I’d have to agree. Saya just seems one- dimensional at this point. Okay, so she’s great at tons of things. She’s loved by everyone around her. She’s an all-out nice girl.Also, her goal is to protect everyone..Hmmmm… Where have I heard that before?
    As a Clamp heroine she’s completely forgettable and I find it hard to like her along with rest of the cast.They better get started on the real plot soon because I’m losing my patience!
    I feel like Clamp has been going in a downward spiral after the very disappointing endings of TRC( bizarre plot twists yo) and xxxholic( where was the resolution? I WANT A PROPER ENDING! After all that build-up, that’s what we get?!). They really have to pick up the pace otherwise Clamp will lose the credibility they’ve built up through the years.
    Also, a side note:when Saya approached the dog, was anyone secretly praying the dog to bite her?No? Guess it was just me then.

  8. VyseLegend says:

    This show seems like the most uninspired, boring show of the season. Seems like they’re only making it as a cash-in on the Blood name.

  9. hardrock says:

    Blood + was paced so slowly it was painful to watch sometimes. You could skip an episode and not really miss too much. Blood C really has given us two episodes of mild buildup, without explaining a whole lot. I also thought the second ep was better visually than the first. There are parts of it though that bring me back to the mid 90’s.

  10. Frost says:

    Glad to see almost everyone agrees with me, I honestly thought Id get bashed for my comment lol

    But really, like everyone says, Saya is such a boring character right now… WHY DID THEY HAVE TO ADD A STUPID CUTE CLUMSY SIDE TO HER? IS THIS KOBATO? NO! Its supposed to be a hardcore anime about vampires, ffs… If she was on her “serious” personality all the time, this would already be so much better

  11. Morgoth says:

    What I also don’t understand how one can give these silly school-antics THAT much screen-time if they are in the end just banal since actually it’s all about Saya’s darker side… At least I thought this is a series about a girl kicking some monster-ass – but as they portray it right now it seems more like it will be some kind of sentimental drama about Saya than her fighting for some just cause against evil monsters.
    But the problem with that is just how silly they made Saya… how is she supposed to be the centre of a serious plot with that kind of characterization?

  12. Glau says:

    There’s a reason Psgels is the respected anime blogger and you guys are commenters at his blog – and not the other way around. The man has a very good eye and Blood-C is a far more appealing and interesting show than what one might gather from all the bitching going on. Personally, THANK GOD it’s not like Blood+, a show that consistently failed to engage me, so that I just couldn’t force myself to care anymore by the time the “really important stuff” started happening.

  13. xxxholic_wing says:

    I have to agree on Glau on this. Psgels has a lot of patience and he blogs shows which are deemed “boring” by the mainstream. Anyway, if you don’t like to watch the show, don’t bother watching. No one is forcing you anyway.

  14. m says:

    Yeah, Blood+ should have had more one minute cat scenes, lame singing routines, and a heap of Kobato so that it could be a much more compelling action series like Blood-C. Maybe if Saya had a tired personality split foreshadowed with a sledgehammer that ties into a theme of nature/nurture Blood+ wouldn’t have needed all of those episodes to tell its story.

    There’s actually not a lot about Blood-C that ties it to anything else in the franchise, but that doesn’t necessarily matter. This is obviously more influenced by CLAMP, but I wouldn’t say that it is “soooo CLAMP,” what with having read their manga and all; their works are actually usually pretty tense, even when they aren’t full of action. The anime adaptations aren’t always good at presenting this, which is how I’m rationalizing psgels’s perspective here. Blood-C will undoubtedly move more in that direction once it gets off of this copy pasta, and all of the frivolous things will become serious business, but this followup episode was really tedious.

  15. nodbgp says:

    Like psgels said the fight scenes are awesome, I thought the pacing was really slow too, but I don’t really care, I guess people are expecting a lot of action and blood because of the short lenght and name, and because of that are forgetting to pay attention to the little nuances that for me are just a preview of what’s to come, all in all I believe in Clamp and I don’t think they would name the anime Blood just to borrow the fame and the heroine’s name, I believe they will also make sure to add a strong theme, even if not the same that was used in Blood+. I’m guessing that in the end there will be this big message about individuality, changes and what you really are, and as I see this Saya will be perfect for that. If something in that league happens, the action stays down to earth and I keep getting this dark vibe from the ambient and scenary I don’t really care if it stays slow.

  16. Joojoobees says:

    People can have differences of opinion about the balance of SoL and Action in Blood-C. I don’t know what to think of it yet.

    I do want to correct something that @Morgoth said, however. They did not repeat the scene with the dog. In this episode she tries to get near the dog, but it runs away. In the first episode, she tried to get near the dog, but remembered that she had to run home to fight a monster. Two different things. That doesn’t mean you have to like it, but it is incorrect to say the same thing was shown twice.

  17. m says:

    That’s a dog? That was quite a failure of object classification on my part. I want to write, “If I get any dumber I’ll have to revert to picture books,” but obviously that’s no good. I suppose drooling on myself is still a possibility.

  18. AidanAK47 says:

    “There’s a reason Psgels is the respected anime blogger and you guys are commenters at his blog – and not the other way around.”
    Yep and that is that Psgels has the time and patience to keep one updated. And the ability to write a decent opinion. That doesn’t mean he is always right.

    I respect his opinion and most of the time I do agree with him. But occasionally I find he may have missed a point or misjudged a series. Well that just goes to show that he is human.

  19. Hogart says:

    “There’s a reason Psgels is the respected anime blogger and you guys are commenters at his blog – and not the other way around.”

    Why the odd defensiveness? We aren’t attacking psgels. If anything we’re wondering what his keen eye is seeing that we’re missing, because what you say happened to you with Blood+ is happening for us right now with Blood C.

  20. Morgoth says:

    @Joojoobees: Hmm, my choice of words wasn’t that great, I should’ve explained my point better… What I meant was that the basic meaning of the scene (the dog is important and Saya is attracted to it) is portrayed two times with these scenes without adding anything to the meaning of the connection the second time around. Therefore it seemed like a bad kind of repetition in my eyes. Since I don’t think this is one of these kind of scenes where repetition is a sort of metaphor.

  21. Glau says:

    @Hogart
    I wasn’t defending Psgels, I’m just tired of the endless bitching about Blood-C after only 2 eps and I’m glad at least Psgels can see there’s something to the show. The difference with me vs Blood+ and the people bitching about Blood-C appears to be that I didn’t go into Blood+ with any specific expectations and I at least tried to stick it out (understand that I’m not bitching about Blood+ even now, I’m just glad I can get into Blood-C the way I never really could with Blood+), whereas those who have a problem with Blood-C seem to have lots and lots of expectations and no patience whatsoever. So you guys could really learn from Psgels to be less predisposed and enjoy what you have because it isn’t bad at all.

  22. Hogart says:

    Fair enough. I do wish you’d have just said that, as your wording implied something a bit different to me (all these years and English still confuses me).

    For what it’s worth, I’m not going into Blood C with any expectations, and I am also sticking with it to give it a chance.

    But my negative response is also unexpected to me, and it’s rare that my opinion contrasts that sharply to psgels, so I couldn’t help but post.

    But for my part, I’ll stop. There’s plenty of negativity already, no need for my two cents. I’ve given lesser shows less of a hassle, so you’re right.

  23. Glau says:

    @Hogart
    Well my wording was a heat-of-the-moment kind of overstatement. I’d seen people bitching about it elsewhere so what you guys said here was just the final straw, so to speak. I don’t actually have a problem with people speaking their mind, I just don’t get what’s so terrible about this particular show compared to many others if you drop the whole expectations bit.

    For example, people bitch on and on about the singing, but the thing it immediately brought to my mind was “oooh, girl, they must have some serious pain in store for you if they’re making such an effort to make everything about you so bright and bubbly right now”. So let her sing if/while she still can, it’s not like she doesn’t deserve it considering her night shift…

  24. Hogart says:

    True, and I realize I’m being a bit unfair, but there’s a line where it goes from “subtle foreshadowing” into “ok, we get it” and they’ve now gone onto “man, is she singing off-key AGAIN?”. And that’s just the singing :)

    But since I’ve resolved to let it go, I’ll just sit back and watch for now, hoping for the best but expecting what I’ve seen so far (ie, more off-key singing, breakfasts, and puppy sightings ;)

  25. Sacchi says:

    I really like this series so far. It’s got a lot to like, but at the same time I can also understand that it’s not for everyone.

    Are we watching the same show? There’s a lot to like? Really? I guess there’s an audience for everything…I’m just going to give a third episode to this show and see if it can deliver. If it doesn’t, I don’t care if it has Blood in its name, no nostalgia of Blood+ can make me stand how bad this show is in my eyes.

  26. UnknownVoice says:

    Someone actually LIKED BloodC? surprising.

    Blood+ was a decent rip off of Buffy(with less feminism, sadly), Blood-C is a complete pile of annoying CLAMP cliches(and i am clamp fan), bland one-dimensional characters, annoying klutzy main character and uninspired cartoony-overstylized fight scenes.

    IF this thing does nto get better by third episode, I am forgetting it ever existed and going back to my Blood+ rewatch.

  27. レナ says:

    Isn’t Blood-c similar to blood+?

  28. UnknownVoice says:

    @レナ

    Its a bizzaro-world version of Blood+.

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SuperMario
yeah, she's checking her pulse while completely in control of the situation. Such badass. I wonder with the stakes so impossibly high how could they resolve all this? Not to mention they have other shits to face after escaping that orphanage. Good read. I love the three mains so far as well.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Yep. I actually didn't get into it until the end of the first chapter and then it's just got my full attention. Up to date and so far it hasn't let me down. Miss Mom is pretty damn unnerving. That one point near the beginning where she just holds the main girls head and stares at her like shes examining an object would scare the hell out of me if I was her.
SuperMario
This The Promised Neverland manga is awesome. I'm at chap 4 right now and it just getting better and better
Topgavin
Currently looking forward to Flip Flappers, Keijo and To Be Hero. Needa catch up on Girlish Number and Drifters but haven't had the time.
SuperMario
Oh, and that Zaragoto OVA which I think not a lot of people care to watch, at least not right now.
SuperMario
Now I consider catching up a part of this job haha
SuperMario
I'm more of a slice of life guy so my watch for this season are: natsume, Yuri on ice, girlish number, drifters, Fune wo amu, Saiki and I'm behind on Keijo, Magical Girl raising project, occultic;nine, buranki, Bungo stray dogs. Have a lot to catch up it seems
Lenlo
This season im watching Yuri, Drifters, and Flip Flappers. When I get the time I also try to watch some Bakumon
AidanAK47
Besides what I am blogging, I am also watching Jojo, Flip Flappers, Girlish number and Keijo.
AidanAK47
I guess you want to know what everyone's watching in the current season?
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This is a mess
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So the what out there y'all
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And so number one out there
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And some new anime
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So what's new anime y'all seen
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That's what. I think
AidanAK47
@Anon530022, I am not going to deny being arrogant. That's just my nature. But you are going to have to explain how wanting a show to have a genuine gay romance is homophobic? Kinda missing the logical steps on that jump. Anyway you being gay is irrelevant as I have a bisexual friend who says the romance isn't realistic in the slightest.
Anonymous530636
real interaction which makes everything feel fake. (sorry about the test walls)
Anonymous530636
I love basically any sports/romance anime so Yuri should be straight up my alley, but instead it just fails at both, mainly the sports part since it does try to focus on fanservice of the relationship between Victor and Yuri. I don't feel like the relationship between the two of them is real whether it's romantic or not. They keep having characters voice their thoughts about each other but no
Anonymous530636
Hi random long-time psgels reader, personally I think Yuri on Ice has kind of lost on trying to be a real romance and a real sports anime. It's characters are pretty weak and combing from someone that actually reads BL manga, I agree that their overt level of fanservice like focusing on the two of their lips and the rings, etc doesn't match their level of outright talking about shit.
Anonymous530138
I like a good dickin
Lenlo
tl;dr, chill its an anime.
Lenlo
Age gap isnt that big, and its not homophobic or arrogant to say a show isnt selling an aspect of itself well in his opinion. Lastly, romance for every person is different, so dont expect him to share your experiences/views on it.
Anonymous529997
Also, how Viktor's choice to become Yuuri's coach might have been initiated by not just Yuuri's skating, but Yuuri himself.
Anonymous529997
@Mario: I agree on the strip dance. Like, holy crap. But overall, I really like how episode 10 reframed the series from Viktor's perspective. Like, at first the whole commemorative photo thing made him seem like a jerk, but now we get to see that he had actually had a great time with Yuuri and was probably being genuine about it...
Anonymous530076
What happened to angry german kid
Anonymous530022
You just want them to identify themselves. You feel as if it's your right to know that they are gay. Well it isn't. It is their life, their story. You are being homophobic. You are being close minded. You are being arrogant. You are, indeed, very arrogant.
Anonymous530022
It is a mixture of admiration and lust and because it is hard to distinguish between the two it is difficult to express your feelings directly or even admit it to yourself.
Anonymous530022
As a gay man I attest that this is how romance works, ESPECIALLY when there is an age and experience gap.
Anonymous530022
This shows romance is actually reaistic, but you are still rejecting it. Yuri literally said he had found love. He said neither way who it's directed towards yet you are SO INSISTENT that it is towards skating. in the episode Victor even expressed admiration to Yuri's own dispositions beyond skating. He clearly was 'watching' him.
AidanAK47
If they planned to take such a hands off approach to romance then it would be better if they just focused on the skating. But well then the fujoshi's wouldn't be buying the Blu-rays now would they?
Lenlo
I can understand that, thats a problem I have with alot of modern romance's. Im just not seeing the backing off that happens in those romances. They just seem to raise it more and more in Yuri, without ever crossing the line, rather than toeing it then backing off.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, To me I find it aggravating. They go so far to portray them as gay yet when it comes to the final say they keep backing off. Hey I want to be more that friends...just kidding! Hey I love you...just kidding! Hey lets get married...just kidding! It like how harems constantly tease the main getting together with each girl when by shows end you know he's not going to get with anyone.
SuperMario
@lenl: agree. I'm still enjoying the hell of the show. A bit out of the blues thou when it comes to the strip dance (they shoulve planted that before), but it's a joy to watch every week
Lenlo
Eh. As I said, I think its above bait below romance. Either way im enjoying it and thats the important part.
SuperMario
For me they're just too much at the moments but unless they confirm it, nothing changes.
Kaiser Eoghan
Y'know I kind of wish Rorico would just come out and directly say he feels too old for most anime, its not really surprising a man in his 60s would be so cranky when it comes to this stuff.
SuperMario
@lenlo: I think it's more about statements. Yes, we understand the context of rings and engagements but unless they confirm it, nothing set in stones. And "hinting" is what they love to do, you can see just by the 2 shows I've coverage myself: Sound Eupho (Reina & Kumiko), Flip Flappers (Papika & Cocona) and people saying those same underlining context things.
Lenlo
I think its beyond baiting, below full blown romance at this point myself.
Lenlo
Does a show have to confirm and say "They kissed" to make it true? Seems along the same lines as "Fade to black" for sex. Then theres the ED which also made the start of the show much more interesting, as with this ED not its Victor that was jilted at the airport, when Yuri ran away.
Lenlo
See, I dont understand why they have to come out and say "We are gay" for you to accept its an actual romance. I dont see how this is baiting anymore either, as the rings and the "Engagement" seem pretty clear to me. Also, without knowing the current climate on the matter in Japan, this could be the clearest they are allowed to make it, while still fully intending for it to be a real romance.
AidanAK47
@Anon1, Agreed. I said before that I would like to be proven wrong on this but this series doesn't seem to have done that yet. I really will admit I am wrong to Anon2 if it does provide proof but it would need to be far more substantial than this.
@Anon2, Girl, boy, whatever.
Anonymous529668
I'm not a girl.
Anonymous529660
Even that is just grasping at straws though, haha.
Anonymous529660
@Aidan: I think the only thing from that scene that hints at actual romance would be where Viktor says something along the lines of a lot of other people got their L words from Yuuri, which he had earlier stated are "Love" and "Life." Honestly, even this is pushing it though, but the fact that he said it like that suggests that both he and Yuri got "those words" from Yuuri.
AidanAK47
Way I saw that scene was the guy saying "Fuck you, you think Yuri is so great. Well I am gonna be better than Yuri. Just you wait and see" and then Victor remarking on how Yuri awoke his competitive spirit. Aka his love for Skating.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Although I like both, I always prefer impressionism better. Expressionism for me tend to be a bit overwhelming and a bit subjectively. But mind you Flip Flappers still has moments of Expressionist as well (Episode 6: Irochan's parents)
AidanAK47
@Anon, I got the context you saw fine. About him getting mad over the "Good luck charm". You are being baited girl, hook, line and sinker.
Anonymous529618
You are missing context. You don't know anything. You don't even know why Yuri was mad do you? Why the fuck would he be mad about loving skating.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I bring up the impressionism vs expressionism thing because I feel that the impressionistic aspects of say a Tarkovsky film, Malick film and flippflappers feel superior to me over expressionistic style because its more emotionally satisfying while ALSO being athmospheric, Whereas expressinistic visuals are ONLY atmospheric.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Flippflappers has now reached a level where I feel the impressionism has gone beyond simply visual immersive in a way that makes us part of its world and has become more emotional.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: You mention impressionism in your review of flipflappers, in general do you feel on a visual level you respond more strongly to expressionism or impressionism?
SuperMario
I watched the whole thing so I know that in this episode, except the time they're giving rings to each other (in the name of "good luck charm") and Victor somewhat pump Yuri up for the Gold medal by Not Denying it; they still haven't admitted anything.
AidanAK47
Perhaps I am not the one who is in denial.
AidanAK47
Oh I think I see it now. Yeah this is nothing mate. The conversation was about skating from begining to end and Victor mentioned that he wasn't the only one to get his "L words" from Yuri. Pretty clear he means how Yuri helped Yurio awaken a love for Skating. Romantic love doesn't really make sense within the context. But yeah, they admitted nothing.
AidanAK47
Quite frankly if they don't have the balls to admit they are gay by this point they are just not going to.
AidanAK47
Time stamp means the point in the episode he actually said it. Like 18 minutes 20 seconds in or something. You should be able to get one. But maybe you can't find it either. Only thing I found Was about yuri teaching victor through his life and love but that's ambiguous enough to refer to his love for skating.
Anonymous529435
Don't have time stamp
Anonymous529435
Episode is narrated by Victor
Anonymous529435
At the end Victor admits he's in love and mentions the other person is also
AidanAK47
@Anon, Can you give me the timestamp on the episode? Scanning through it I don't see anything that suggests that.
Anonymous529150
Not joked
Anonymous529150
They admitted
Anonymous529150
No those were both me it's just the chat doesn't show it immediately so I posted again
AidanAK47
@Masky, He's denied it before but it's pretty obvious he's trying to make it seem like someone's agreeing with him.
AidanAK47
@Anon, admitted or joked?
Masky
So wait, is that same anon repeating himself or two different anons where second one copy pasted part of first one's post
Anonymous528870
They literally admitted a love triangle between the three main characters. You're in denial.
Anonymous528815
Are you kidding? This episode they outright admitted a love triangle between the three main characters. You're in denial.
AidanAK47
I actually was going to admit that I was wrong when I heard about the "Kiss" and gladly do so. But when I watched the scene in question it's clear what I said is still correct. They will dance around it, sure. But never outright confirm it.
AidanAK47
@Anon, discussed this before when the "Kiss" happened. Despite the series hinting it, and hinting it hard, it still hasn't outright confirmed it. While I am sure it is head canon to the watchers, the series itself is just queer baiting.
SuperMario
Okay... Just watched this week's Yuri on Ice. Haha things got weird again... and they so nailed Barcelona here, I recognized most of the places.
SuperMario
@anon527634: actually about that, I am a bit let down that after that "supposed kiss" in episode 7, no one in the series mentioned it again. Just like that "kiss" never happened.
Anonymous527534
So when is Aidan going to publicly admit he was wrong about the Yuri romance?
Lenlo
I loved the special ED so much.
Lenlo
Alright... Yuri this week was interesting in so many ways.
SuperMario
I'm also planning to catch BBK/BRK before the year end soon. I'm also find that series entertaining despite its obvious flaws
Kaiser Eoghan
But come to think of it, I do know what its like to enjoy something admittedly flawed, the first season of utawerumono was like that for me, I have nothing but criticism of it in all aspects but yet ended up being one of those things I somehow enjoyed watching.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, only flippflappers, natsume, drifters on my end.
AidanAK47
I wonder if anyone here is still watching Bubuki Buranki? It's weird but despite how deeply flawed it is I find it fairly enjoyable. Though that fantastic soundtrack certainly helps.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Oh they announced a Sonic movie too. Apparently it's a mix of live action and animation.
Anonymous525559
I am suprised SEGA didn't announce an Sonic movie and went with games like Altered Beast and Crazy Taxi, they probably could have just ripped off one story from the Archie Sonic comics and make an movie based on that, preferably the story where Sonic travels in the multiverse to fight an super powerful Sigma alongside Classic Megaman and Megaman X,Steet Fighter cast,Breath of Fire 3 cast and more
AidanAK47
@Anon, A parody Grindhouse film actually could work. I consider Overkill the best of House of the dead. Thing is there actually is already a house of the dead movie so this would be their second attempt. The first attempt...lets just say it didn't work out.
Anonymous523336
And House Of The Dead: Overkill is probably the best game in the franchise to adapt, i mean, it has Isaac Washington in it and dude's awesome.
Anonymous523336
None of those games have much of a story, but at least House Of The Dead could make for an entertaining silly movie, i mean House Of The Dead: Overkill is freaking awesome and has silly cutscenes at the start and end of every level.
Kaiser Eoghan
At most moonbeam city seems sylistically interesting.
Kaiser Eoghan
Archer I simply lost track of and it ended up getting to long to catch up on it.
Kaiser Eoghan
Relatively old news, although I've been joking with friends about what if scenarios for a streets of rage film. I know there is a cg/live action hybrid sonic film in the works. I kind of want to think a shinobi or streets of rage film could work if they went full on 70s style action film.
AidanAK47
None of these games are played for the story. You would be better off just making a new game for them instead of a movie.
AidanAK47
I haven't even seen Archer. On another note SEGA is planning a bunch of live action movies of their franchises and boy do they all sound like a horrible idea. Shinobi, Golden Axe, Virtua Fighter, The House of the Dead, Crazy Taxi, Streets of rage and Altered Beast.
SuperMario
@Anon522497: hmm, I found Moonbeam City underwhelmed and for Archer up until their last season I actually got a bit tired of the cast (couldn't finish that season 7)
Anonymous522497
If i wanted Archer i would just watch Archer or Moonbeam City like everyone else.
Anonymous522338
Bloodivores
SuperMario
Anyone here watching Pacific Heat? It's an Aussie Archer-ripoff aired in Netflix last week. I actually enjoyed the 1st episode, not that great but everyone panned it like a plague.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Who?
Anonymous521123
#StephanieJaworowiczIsBeautiful
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: That'd be the compiliation film. I watched that based on hearing that the film version trimmed back on the shows weaker moments.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: was it the compilation film or the series itself? That scene is the highlight of that first season. I'm always a fan of KyoAni so it's very natural that I enjoy this series a whole lot.
Kaiser Eoghan
I watched the first season of sound euphonium, not much to say for it other than I liked the teacher guy and the scene where the black haired girl tells the main character that she thinks shes hiding behind a mask. Animation was as expected of kyoani good. All of those emotion shots though and some of the melodrama...
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, it does stop if you make an account.
Kaiser Eoghan
Hmmm there we go again, it delayed sending my message for longer than it should have.
Kaiser Eoghan
Anyone notice today and last night that the site has had some loading issues? I kept getting an error page for a while and it was also loading a bit more slowly. A server issue?
Lenlo
Have to say, Flip Flappers ep 5 was pretty good. I love atmospheric settings like that.
Lenlo
Looks like an Epee. The large bell guard, the fact that they are focusing on thrusting attacks instead of slashing (mostly). Fencing is alot of fun. Be prepared for some bruises though, as some people put their full body weight behind their thrusts.
SuperMario
I have one last dumb question, Can you tell what types of blade of Juri in Utena? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGsVSSUv_i0
SuperMario
@Lenlo: the more you described the more I found fencing interesting. I might take a look around my town to see if we have Fencing here (the curse of living in a small town).
Lenlo
Blades are slightly different, yes, but mostly just in their guard and how much they bend. Sabers bend easily, Epee's not so much. Surprisingly Epee is the slowest, because people tend to be more careful. Saber is actually the most aggressive of the blades, atleast at my skill level
AidanAK47
That's all they had to do. Just stay inside and let it pass. But for some weird reason they just keep panicking over nothing.
As far as time/alternate world stuff goes this was ridiculously underwhelming. Just finished another movie called triangle and now that's how you do Time travel mindfuckery.
AidanAK47
@Mario, I am not fond of movies where people make stupid decisions for no good reason. For example:
"We should just stay inside"
"No, staying inside isn't realistic"
WHY IN THE HOLY HELL ISN'T IT REALISTIC.
SuperMario
Showed that movie to a bunch of friends last year and I remembered one of the girl just shut off the movie after 15'
SuperMario
@Aidan: too bad. I found Cohenrent really funny and entertaining. Some of their twists are stupid but I was actually invested in much of their characters. Maybe because I always love movies about a bunch of characters in an isolated setting
SuperMario
@Lenlo: sounds like Epee is the most "all-out-attack" and aggressive one. Their blades are different as well I assume?
AidanAK47
Just watched a movie called coherence and man, what a bunch a pseudo-intellectual garbage that was.
Lenlo
For Right of Way, its basically Person A attacks, Person B parries, Person A hits, Person B hits, Person B gets the point because they took right of way with the parry. Saber and Foil both have that, but Epee does not. Epee is simply "Whoever hits the opponent first, doesnt matter where, whole body is target area"
Lenlo
Theres Saber, Foil and Epee. The main difference is this thing called right of way, but there are other smaller ones like how Saber can hit with the edge and Epee is allowed to hit the entire body, instead of just the chest like Foil
SuperMario
For news, Blood Blockade Battlefront getting second season next year. As it was one of my favorite last year I'm really lokking forward to this second season
SuperMario
@Lenlo: that sounds great. From what I know from fencing there are 3 different types of blade right? So what are the differences between them? (Fencing 101 here)
Kaiser Eoghan
Although a fantasy sports thing could also generate interest, such as combining sports together to create something totally new.
Lenlo
@SuperMario, Fencing was great. Favorite sport ever and it helped me stay in shape in College. I find Epee to be the best blade, mostly cause I fenced it, but its a very intense 3 minutes. Unlike sports like Soccer and such which is alot of sustained running, Fencing is 3 minutes of Dont-Stop-Moving then wait till next match. Gets really fun once you figure out your own style.
SuperMario
haha, I wouldn't mind either if each episode focus on a single sport/ character/ country. Or even the positive aspects like role models, sports inspirations and stuffs
Lenlo
That Olympic anime sounds great.
Kaiser Eoghan
And it would be a good excuse to have characters of multiple backgrounds included too.
Kaiser Eoghan
Could be an 13 episode ova series with 48 minute episodes, and if its to be an ensemble character drama you could have 10 minutes to a each character (the ones being focused on in that episode) in each episode.
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah yes, aswell as cheating it could also get into "stage parenting", "abuse", "Disabilities" and also the general politics of sports, the backroom stuff.
SuperMario
I'll be the first in line if that olympic anime ever come out. Could be interesting to see the interactions between athletes in different sports, and then fans/athletes/coaches relationship, then the gold rush, doping... So much to talk around to
Kaiser Eoghan
I don't think theres ever been a manga about hurling either. Hey heres an idea, someone do an ensemble drama anime that deals with the olympics, fit in multiple sports that way.
SuperMario
Personally I find Australian football much more exciting than rugby. Or crickets.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: ha! Interesting that you mentioned Gaelic football, because in Aus we have AFL (Australian Football League), that really similars to Gealic Football to the point sometimes we have the 2 national teams compete each other with modified rules
Kaiser Eoghan
Hmm, lets see, sport under-represented in anime? Fencing, golf , Gaelic football, bowling, boat racing.
SuperMario
Hey, fencing is actually really cool. How did you like it Lenlo?
SuperMario
You have your point there Topgavin, as I clearly remember many instances where players' legs, backs or even necks got snapped during rugby's tackles. But in regards to Rugby I never really care about it. That and car racing
Lenlo
Its mostly the type of injuries you get that differ I think. Football you get concussions and broken bones and such, while in Rugby you probably get alot of bruises and cuts. Granted I have played neither, I was a Soccer man in highschool and fencing in College
Lenlo
American football has alot of rules, and really is just a bunch of millionaires running around chasing a ball. Rugby however, as Topgavin said, has no pads so when you get hit you get hit HARD
AidanAK47
I never ceases to surprise me just how high and mighty visual novel fans can be over Mosaics present in localized games. I mean they are literally complaining about not seeing genitalia yet the way they phrase it, it's like they are fighting against great injustice. If these VNs were Nukige they might have a point but in most cases the sex scenes in question are pointless and shoehorned in.
Topgavin
@Mario Rugby is more extreme *because* it has no protective gear. No hiding behind helmets and cushioned shoulder pads when ya get bowled over.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm no expert but isn't American football a variation of Rugby? And I believe american football is more extreme, considering they have to wear helmets, protection gears and all that
Lenlo
I dont think theres alot of manga about it because its simply not that popular outside the US. As far as it being a battlefield, eeeeh? Not really? You want a battlefield watch Rugby.
SuperMario
I can think of other cool sports that could be interesting to see in anime: Kick Volleyball (Sepak takraw), Bossaball (combined soccer, volleyball in a trampoline), or in the same vein of skate figures this season, why not pole dancing competition???
Anonymous504493
What other sport is cool and popular that remains original to write about by now? There isn't a lot of manga about it compared to anything else.
Anonymous504493
American football looks like a battlefield with a visible battleline and everything. Id like it if there wasnt so many darn commercials.
Lenlo
I mean, its a sport. Far cry from best, but its definitely a sport.
SuperMario
@Vonter: or maybe because american football IS the best sports ever?
Kaiser Eoghan
@Vonter: Most likely due to the middle section of the original anime being the most popular bit.
Vonter
Can someone explain me how Cobra, is apparently getting an anime around some sort of space american football? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54kNWPr43zE
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Its not safe enough a film for me to properly recommend. Even to exploitation fans, they might find it too slow others would be too sensitive to it. Really una vita violenca, mamma roma, accatone, hawks and sparrows are what Pasolini is really about.
SuperMario
Now that you watched Salo, would you recommend the film to other people? I personally think it's a masterpiece but it's one of the title that I think people would break up with me if I show them this movie
SuperMario
@Kaiser: even him as a director, both Braveheart and Apocalypto don't do much to me, will see if Hacksaw Ridge going to change my mind (but I'm not to fond with war movies in general). La Notte is in my sooon-to-watch list for years, haha
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Mel Gibson as a director, not as an actor =)
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Thats why I prefer the neo-realist/quasi-neo-realism stuff as it deals with the worse off in society. But Antonioni was the master of being able to do films about angsty well-off people, L'aventura, the passenger and La notte for example
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