Posted by psgels on 19 July 2011 with categories: Steins;Gate



This is one of those spoilery episodes. Spoilers I will be talking about below, so if you haven’t seen this episode yet it’s probably wise to just close this window and watch the episode. This line is to make sure that those spoilers don’t show up in blog aggregators.

I’m of course not talking about the identity of Suzuha’s father: Daru. I think it really was clear with the name of the time machine: if Okabe was really Suzuha’s father, then it’d have a really fancy and screwed up name, and yet her father just had to be an important character. I still think that Daru’s voice actor was a bit of a mis-cast. There was this one line where he tried to act cool, but instead sounded more like he does usually. Overall he just sounds strange, in a way that he’s forcing a different voice from his usual range a bit too much.

In any case though, what really struck me about this episode was Suzuha’s death, and how she failed to change the future for more than one percent. Throughout the entire scope of Steins;Gate, the concept of travelling to the future has never been hinted as plausible, and this episode really confirmed that it’s a one-way ticket. On top of that she also gave really strong background to the landlord.

I’m also fascinated at the complication that this has for the future. Especially since this episode was purposefully really vague on what else has changed: what happened to Makise Kurisu? What happened to the IBM5100? I mean: what was the reason why Mayuri’s death was evaded? I see three possibilities:
1. John Titor II never existed and he never gave Okabe the inspiration to experiment with time travel.
2. The message that Okabe received from himself scared him really badly and made him decide to abandon the time machine research.
3. Makise Kurisu never got involved and therefore the time machine is currently different.

I really suspect that a lot here is connected to each other. Suzuha travelled back in time, pretending to be John Titor probably was the cause that Makise Kurisu became a lab member. Interestingly, what would have happened if Okabe never went back in time to where Makise Kurisu was alive, back in that first episode? That also would have been a big setback for CERN. It’s also interesting how the time machine really seems like something that Daru would have built: one that focuses on sending stuff back to the past. It was Makise Kurisu’s influence who suggested sending thoughts back in the past, which so far turned out to be by far the most convenient time machine. I also suspect that that’s the reason why CERN was so easily able to take over the world.
Rating: ** (Excellent)

15 Responses

  1. Rex says:

    The question is, why didnt the world-lines change the first time, the one where suzuha commited suicide?

  2. Alec says:

    To me, before that episode, I was 80% sure that Daru was Suzuha’s father.

    Another epic episode for SteinsGate!!

  3. Alec says:

    @Rex: She didn’t have memories, hence not being able to do something that makes a huge difference.

  4. Pafiume says:

    This show really shows how time travel can be so sad. It’s heartbreaking knowing that the connections cease to exist as Okabe goes through different timelines. Mayuri, right before Okabe sent that D-mail… I would probably go insane if I were Okabe. Not only are you losing those connections, but you’re gaining ones you don’t even know, in the case of the D-mails. And nobody even understands that you need to be caught up to speed on what you missed. I’m really curious to see where the show goes from here, but this week just really hit me. More than it probably should. I’m more worried than when CERN first raided the apartment.

  5. RapGamer says:

    I don’t understand this series, and I won’t pretend I do. I do enjoy it, the depth of the characters and as Pafiume (I think) put it, the consequences of time travel is sad.

  6. Frost says:

    This is easily the best anime airing atm… Every single episode is full of awesome and it looks like it wont be letting go until the end

    Time travelling is always fascinating… Thinking that the same Suzuha who was just there with them, travelled to the past, got old, and ended up commiting suicide, before she even got to meet them, its just depressing

    I cant wait to see what other twists are coming

  7. Rex says:

    I bet we see some serious shit with KURISTINA next episode. That we didnt get to see her after Okabe think he “fixed” mayuri’s fate, something bad will happen.

    And i would like to remind both myself, and also we still dont know why she was killed in episode 1.

  8. Rex says:

    wut, i must have had my head under my arm when i wrote my previous post, it doesnt make any sense lol. Ok let me rephrase that last sentence:

    And i would like to remind both myself, and others here, that we still dont know why she was killed in episode 1. My guess is that they save that for the final episodes. It likely wont make sense until then.

    Speaking of making sense, try and watch episode 1 again, you will go “uh-uh” a couple of times now i assure you that.

  9. UnknownVoice says:

    @The question is, why didnt the world-lines change the first time, the one where suzuha commited suicide?

    Wordlines DID change.

    The meter has only certain number of decimals to be shown. HOWEVER THE WORLDLINE NUMBER ITSELF IS INFINITE DUE TO INFINITY OF DECISIONS.

    So it can be

    0,444410000000124554
    0,444410001414545545
    0,444410014545457575
    ANd device would show same number.

  10. Noob says:

    Something that bothers me this episode is why Mr. Braun didn’t know the part time Suzuha after she left with the time machine. It wasnt a D-mail/time leap so he should’ve remembered her as a part timer.

    And what happens to Okabe when he timeleaps, does the original timeline dissapear?

  11. AKI says:

    Another perfect episode from Steins;Gate. This episode left me begging for more. And yes, the consequences of time travel are depressing and kinda sad. As for Mr. Braun not knowing that the part-timer Suzu and the older Suzu were the same person, might be because Mr. Braun never asked for the last name of the young Suzu. Also, Amane is a popular last name in Japan. So it wouldn’t be surprising that two person can have the same name.

  12. CJay says:

    Suzu was using Daru’s surname, Hashida, in the past, so there would be no reason that he would think that they are the same person, seeing as only their first names are the same.

  13. gvp says:

    wooo! Absolutely loving this anime!

    But i need a little refresher… what was this original d-mail that they are talking about where Okabe ‘stopped’ suzuh?? and what dmail did he send to correct that towards the end (when mayuri is crying out not to)? thanks…just forgot some details from previous episodes and too lazy to back track.

  14. spelledwithaph says:

    What if Makise was the death caused by a time traveler? What if originally Mayuri was ordered to kill Makise but because of Okabe D-mail altered time in which Makise’s mission was different. Like said before Makise knew that Mayuri was important to time travel and might have instead killed her off. But assuming that SERN was working on time travel already, does this mean that they would have figured out time travel without her?

  15. Mushyrulez says:

    No speculah to add, myself, but I’d just like to point out that one of the brilliant moves that Steins;Gate regularly pulls, and especially through the confusing cliffhanger at the end of this episode in particular, is encouraging the fanbase to think and postulate.

    Oh, how I feel sorry for the visual novel players right now.

Leave a Reply

Shoutbox

Name:
Email:
For:  
Mail will not be published
  • Bam
    (Friday, May 22. 2015 04:42 AM)
    Even Anno admitted that Evangelion’s success was heavily reliant on Yoshiyuki Sadamoto’s unique and attractive character design. It was familiar but still original. Rei and Asuka’s designs as well as the plug suits and the look of ye Evas had a huge impact in the industry and inspired a whole slew of future animators. You could’ve done the same exact series with a cruder art style and it wouldn’t have been nearly as good.
  • Bam
    (Friday, May 22. 2015 04:19 AM)
    @Aidan: art-style is integral to the overall quality of a product, that’s why it irks me so much when Type-Moonies endlessly praise Nasu and underappreciate Takeuchi as if he didn’t contribute all that much to Fate’s success.
  • AidanAK47
    (Friday, May 22. 2015 02:38 AM)
    @Bam, it’s a rough style admittedly. But mate I played Umineko with the original artwork. It’s hard to find anything worse than that…expect Higurashi’s artwork…(shivers)
    Ryukishi, great writer but not an artist.
  • Bam
    (Friday, May 22. 2015 12:24 AM)
    You guys made me want to go see Fury Road in IMAX now.
  • Bam
    (Thursday, May 21. 2015 10:13 PM)
    @Aidan: you know I tried looking into Muv Luv since it’s supposedly a seminal LN, but that character design is horrendous. The story sounds interesting but there’s such a divide between that and the art style that there’s no way I can get into it.
  • AidanAK47
    (Thursday, May 21. 2015 02:04 PM)
    Another Muv luv spinoff gets an anime adaption. Sure, lets adapt everything except the work that made it famous in the first place.
  • Emma
    (Thursday, May 21. 2015 04:10 AM)
    Muthafuckas cancelled the Constantine tv adapatation…
  • Emma
    (Thursday, May 21. 2015 03:45 AM)
    Come to think of it, Tsugumi’s personality at odds with her monster design. I’m getting reminded of that mech from zone of the enders dolores that had the personality of a young girl .
  • Emma
    (Thursday, May 21. 2015 03:43 AM)
    @Aidan: The bear will be explained as it was done so recently enough in the manga, Ochiai remains however a very dull villain.
  • AidanAK47
    (Thursday, May 21. 2015 03:27 AM)
    You know when grabbing screenshots Sidonia really does look better when you look at it in still images. I really do think that if they just gave the models more natural movement then it would look metric tons better.

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · »

Featured Posts

Knights of Sidonia S2 – 3-6

So far the focus has been pretty heavily on Tsumugi, the chimera. Who is strangely moefied. Its really odd to see what is essentially a giant  tentacled monster display the characteristics of a innocent cutsy little girl. Still she is to me one of the better characters of the show. Untainted by the negative aspects […]

Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks – 19

Oh my god, I can’t believe that Archer is the future Shirou Emiya!….said no one who watched this episode. But yes the cat is out of the bag. Archer is Shirou turned cynical and jaded after playing executioner for a couple of decades. There was a small bit showing how he contracted with the world […]

Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks – 18

Well here it is. The name drop. The very thing the route is called after. And its….its…kinda bad. Of all the places to make the first visual blunder, why did it have to be here? Well Archers reality marble/noble phantasm Unlimited Blade Works was unleashed and Ufotable thought the best treatment would be to render […]

Knights of Sidonia S2 – 1-2

Even after a long break its nice to see that Sidonia hasn’t lost its edge. The story is still engaging and CG robot battles dynamic. However…was the CG this bad before? I remember it took some time to get used to the CG animation of the last season but this seems especially stiff. The easy […]

Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks – 16

So at the start of this episode featured the big moment of Gilgamesh ripping out Illya’s heart and it was surprisingly underwhelming. It is true that in context this makes more sense and fits his character better. But it is a little disappointing. Strangely this wasn’t how it was in the visual novel and this […]

Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks – 15

The word that encompasses this episode in a nutshell would be brutal. Whether you love her or hate her, I say few would believe that Illya deserved this fate. The tragedy is ever more pungent if you know the full details of her past. Anime only viewers may not get the most out of this […]

Fate/Stay Night Unlimited Bladeworks – 14

As a reader of the Fate/stay night visual novel I can confirm that the majority of this episode was anime original content. However instead of being about castors history like I thought, it’s of his backstory with her first master. In all honestly making the episode be about her history with Jason would have been […]

Some Quick First Impressions: DanMachi, Denpa Kyoushi and Arslan Senki

Dungeon ni Deai wo Motomeru no wa Machigatteiru Darou ka Short Synopsis: Our protagonist wants to be an RPG pimp I am getting SAO reminders already. Let me talk about something for a moment. You see when I first played the game dark souls I was frustrated and angry at myself because of my own […]

Some Quick First Impressions: Gunslinger Stratos, Seraph of the end and Yahari season 2

Gunslinger Stratos Short Synopsis: Our protagonist falls into an alternate world full of trigger happy people. I am fairly certain that Gen is not writing this. You can see part of him in the concept but not anywhere else. The episode gave me a mixed impression. I hate the characters and find the main to […]

Latest Reviews

Shirobako Review – 80/100

When you see a harem anime and sigh as the breasts of the female lead jiggle with every step and wind that can flip a skirt it’s easy to forget that somewhere in Japan a group of people worked hard to get that jiggle right and draw each frame of animation. The hardships of the […]

Clipboard06

Nerawareta Gakuen Review – 84/100

Let me talk a bit about Ryousuke Nakamura. For a long time, this guy was my hero. He started off as an assistant director to Monster, in my opinion a big reason why that series got such a ridiculously solid adaptation, and then in 2008 he came with the groundbreaking Mouryou no Hako. No TV-series […]

Clipboard03

Kick Heart

Okay, so I didn’t want to exit 2013 without having seen Masaaki Yuasa’s Kick Heart. It’s only twelve minutes anyway, and I consider him to be one of the best anime directors out there. The story here is pretty silly and mostly serves as a backdrop, so I mostly want to talk about the nature […]

Clipboard01

Kyousogiga Review – 90/100

Everyone’s taste is different, and that’s a wonderful thing because that allows us to have so many different forms of media that all aim toward their own niche. My blog is obviously written from the perspective of my own taste, and even when a show doesn’t cater to it (which is nearly always), I love […]

Clipboard04

Ore no Nounai Sentakushi ga, Gakuen Lovecome o Zenryoku de Jama Shiteiru Review – 80/100

Noucome! You do not want to know how long I have been waiting for a series like this. More than half a decade, at the very least. Finally a series comes along and puts the incredibly overused harem genre in its place. And it actually does it well. Thank you! So to elaborate: the harem […]

Clipboard01

Pokemon: The Origin Review – 75/100

Normally I try to avoid spoilers with these reviews, but screw it, it’s Pokemon. Pokemon The Origin is a bomb of nostalgia. If you haven’t played Pokemon Red, Blue or Green, then you will not enjoy this one slight bit. This really is made as pure undilluted fanservice for the fans of the first games. […]

Clipboard08

Tamayura – More Aggressive Review – 75/100

I’m not going to dedicate a post for my impression for the final three episodes of this series. It was just too boring to write much about. I guess that that gives a pretty accurate indication of what I think about this series. Right at the start of Tamayura’s second season, I asked one question: […]

Clipboard04

Silver Spoon Review – 86/100

When Noitamina started airing two series per season, it was amazing. It’s a timeslot that on average tends to be aimed at a much older audience than usual, and having two series with the same mentality definitely helped to bring more diversity to anime overall. Unfortunately it’s a schedule that could not be kept up […]

Clipboard07

Yondemasuyo, Azazel-San Z Review – 82,5/100

Reviewing a comedy sequel usually is quite simple: in most cases it just drops the bomb and runs out of inspiration, and in rare cases it actually manages to stay hilarious. The tricky thing with these kinds of series is that you need to remain funny, and you need to have the inspiration for that. […]