Posted by psgels on 4 September 2011 with categories: Tiger & Bunny



Now, this episode was build-up, so it was not as impressive as the previous episodes. That pay-off had better be worth it, because a show as awesome as this one deserves an awesome finale.

And yeah, I applaud the creators for avoiding the cheese when getting Barnaby out of Maverick’s memory control. Tiger’s attempts to get through to him had a great emotional response, and yet it was a simple insult that did the trick. That really was a great anti-climax, and at the same time it was a great conclusion to the bond between Kotetsu and Barnaby.

But Christ, we’ll already be ending in two weeks! This really strikes me as the show that’s gonna end with a one-episode epilogue (or at least an epilogue that will take a significant amount of time of the final episode for that epilogue), so we’re going to get the meat of the ending of this series next week!

The big potential pitfall I think will be that the ending is going to get too mundane: at this point, all of the mysteries are solved, and the struggles between the main cast are gone. It’s entirely about trying to defeat Maverick and that Robot now. This is really something where the creators are going to have to go over the top.

That ending is going to matter a lot, whether I’m going to rate this 90/100 or 87,5/100. These numbers may seem random, but let me put it this way: this series still has the potential to become my favourite Sunrise series of the past ten years. If that ending is good, it will probably stand on top of my current top 3 of Bakumatsu Kikansetsu Irohanihoheto, Zone of the Enders and The Big O (Gintama unfortunately doesn’t count because of its second half). If the ending is mundane, it probably won’t make that top 3, so I’m really eager to see whether this series will be able to do it.
Rating: ** (Excellent)

10 Responses

  1. Happy says:

    I’m interested whether Lunatic appears or not.

  2. Perrin4869 says:

    Yeah, I am somewhat disappointed this series didn’t focus on Lunatic that much…

  3. len says:

    @Happy

    They’re in the head of the statue on the building he works in and is shown standing on top of during the OP.

  4. Tan-Tan says:

    @Happy

    My exact thoughts. Lunatic will come in…and he will die! xD like a hero! rofl

  5. LilyGinnyBlack says:

    Lunatic is probably going to end up appearing again, I really don’t doubt it.

    Also, I am wondering what they are going to do for the ending as well. There has to be one more unexpected factor or mystery still left, because I highly doubt that they are going to have the last episode be an epilogue episode when it is going to be shown in theaters along with episode 24. They are going to make sure it goes out with more of a bang than that.

    Unless, of course, we get a final episode that somehow reflects the first episode, only showing us how things are different without Maverick being involved. Because, without Maverick not only is HeroTV going to be affected, but the entirety of Sternbild, since he was essentially the man pulling all of the political strings as well.

    But, the title for episode 25 certainly suggests something a bit more epic than an episode that mirrors the first or something like that. So, I’m still ready for some unexpected revelation or event to occur.

  6. Rintarou says:

    Btw psgels T&B will probably have a second season so all the unresolved stuff like the true form if Ouroboros, Blue Rose’s crush on Tiger, backgrounds for Sky High and the other heroes that didn’t get their own episode, etc will probably be covered there.

  7. m says:

    The timeline for the construction of Android Tiger strains credulity. The sudden Bond villain level of stupid that’s taken over Maverick’s efforts is also not that heartening either. To be honest, this seems a little tacked on.

  8. LilyGinnyBlack says:

    @m: Actually, the time line really isn’t all that far-fetched, nor is the idea of Maverick replacing heroes with robots.

    Most fans speculated that there was something odd with the sleep chambers that were introduced fairly early on in the series and then kinda forgotten about. After Barnaby’s memories started becoming a jumbled mess, most fans started to believe that they altered memories, but it seems now that they were being used by Maverick to obtain data on Kotetsu and Barnaby’s powers (in order to make the suit).

    Then Rotwang and Cis were introduced in episode 15, when we found out that he once worked with Barnaby’s parents, and used their research to create Cis. Barnaby and Kotetsu were told the story that she malfunctioned after being struck by lightning, but I actually highly doubt that.

    She was the first prototype robot to take on the heroes, why she never reacted to Keith is because she met him as Keith rather than as Sky High. Still, something about her was not good enough and she got defeated. Still, Rotwang was probably able to get some data from her (possibly during the fight between Wild Tiger, Barnaby, and Sky High) and was able to use that to perfect Robo!Tiger.

    Also, the robot plot line was brought in very early in the series, it was one of the first things we found out about Barnaby’s parents after the initial reveal that they are dead. We also found out that Maverick was a close friend to Barnaby’s parents and therefore was probably a friend (or at least knew of) Rotwang too, due to the friend of a friend type of connection.

    Maverick showed that he would go to extreme lengths, at first to get public acceptance of NEXT, and then for ratings. So, him using the NEXT in order to get information on their powers and then disposing of them and replacing them with Robots to get a better, more spectacular edge, that could then bring in more ratings, seems right within Maverick’s character to me.

    Some fans even predicted that this was Maverick’s plan the moment Robo!Tiger appeared.

    The whole time line for the creation of Robo!Tiger has been spaced out over the entirety of the series, as has the connections the characters (Maverick, Rotwang, and Barnaby’s parents) had/have with each other.

  9. RollingCamel says:

    Fire Emblem’s true voice…that caught me off-guard.

  10. Pafiume says:

    I have high hopes for the end of the series. I was excited even from the first episode, and it’s still going strong to me, so I can see it continuing on.

    A second season would be awesome! Maybe some more focus on the other characters. I mean, with the parents’ murder finally actually figured out, Bunny can’t really be super angst anymore… I hope. But that’s just if there really is a second season.

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  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 11:45 AM)
    WHAT?! This is tremendous news. Many thanks @Badesh for sharing.
    But Koei Tecmo out of all people? I guess we’re getting the Dynasty/Hyrule Warriors treatment. Where is the FromSoftware developed Hidetaka Miyazaki directed Berserk that was rumored? I guess better than nothing- which has been the mantra of us Berserk fans for a while now. Being a Berserk fan, is being Guts -> which is suffering.
  • Badesh
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 11:34 AM)
    https://youtu.be/9TPBx5Dq-Jk
    new one. the first teaser didn’t contain any gameplay just the first bit with cascar being snuggled by tentacles. it was how they introduced the new game to me. maybe i should feel raped as well…
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 11:04 AM)
    @Badesh: which one? Cuz I played thru both the Dreamcast and the PS2 version. The Dreamcast one was a stand-alone story, but it was both a good one written by Miura, and it was set between Vol22 and Vol23, so it didn’t interfere with the manga’s story. The PS2 one was almost a chapter-by-chapter adaptation of the Holy Demon War section, and it featured the de-facto Berserk theme ‘Sign’ by Hirasawa himself:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdpqV7RPnTE
  • Badesh
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:50 AM)
    They did the same thing to promote the video game! Srsly?
    Besides, i really enjoy the new series as a long time fan.. can’t exactly point out why. I like the action and for every shitty shot, we get an awesome one.
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:49 AM)
    Also Caska’s back to being brown. So I guess some things are getting fixed as we go on.
    /RantOver
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:40 AM)
    That’s why is disheartening to see that the post-credit scene of ep03 was ignored by so many, specially considering the quality of the animation and the importance it had to the plot and course of the show.
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:39 AM)
    Now I’m not going to deny the toxicity of some of the so-called “hardcore” fanbase- the Skullknight community is a testament to that. I’ve seen too many people claim that they’re done with the series, only yo come back every week and nag about the same redundant points over and over again. The show has had much more traditional animation than I’ve originally anticipated.
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:27 AM)
    The music is a great example of that. The 97 series created a surreal somber atmosphere, with a lot of that piggybacking on Susumu Hirasawa’s weird soundtrack. Look at the new series intro- that is as tone-deaf as it can get. I much rather preferred a black screen with a red Berserk logo over this shonenesque song. Caska’s rape as an eyecatch? yeah, they are seriously mislead as to the significance of that scene.
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:24 AM)
    Now I’m a big Berserk fan, anyone here can attest to that, and I’m glad to have some Berserk, in whatever form we can get. But that doesn’t mean I’m going to overlook the deficiencies. I still stand by my point, which is that the new series doesn’t primarily suffer from the animation, as I think a lot can be achieved in the format as evidence by the last two episodes, but the main point of contention is the overall tone which doesn’t fit Berserk.
  • Bam
    (Saturday, Jul 23. 2016 10:20 AM)
    And Berserk is panned for the CG, not only because of the unconventionality, but also since it isn’t particularly strong CGI neither. Sidonia was well-received, and that uses CG a lot more than Berserk. Since the manga has extraordinary line work, people want to see the same level of detail. The 97 series also works against the New one, since although it had minimal budget, it still had much superior cohesion.

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