Posted by psgels on 13 September 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews, Steins;Gate

There is one thing at which Steins;Gate is unrivaled at compared to anything else that aired this year: its plot. If it’s originality, creative twists and multi layers that you want, then this is a must-watch. This has a bit of a slow start, but as the series goes on its intricately woven plot about time travel shines like no other and this show is masterful at combining seemingly insignificant hooks into gripping plot twist. This definitely stood out as one of the most solid shows of the past half year.

Helping with that is a unique style of this series. The entire series is animated with dull and washed out colours, the animation is simple and only becomes really smooth when it really needs to (with great effects, by the way),and a lot of time in this series is spent on characters just talking to each other while the plot slowly progresses. It’s slow, but each episode has its purpose, even though this only may become apparent later on. The lead characters’ monologues in particular are well written, but on top of that this is a series that really did its research into time travel. It may not present the most logical way that time travel might be possible (I mean, there are still parts where you’re going to have to suspend your disbelief), but it’s very well researched.

The weakest part of this series is its cast of characters. Obviously they’re not bad, but they do have a few quirks that didn’t make them as interesting to follow as some of their counterparts. In particular, the acting of the main cast leaves things to be desired, in which they’re trying too hard to fit themselves into certain stereotypes. Daru, Kurisu and Mayuri are the biggest examples of this, which often makes them annoying to watch. The main character Okabe meanwhile just tries too hard: during the dramatic parts he tends to act too dramatic, and during the light-hearted parts he tends to act too over the top (which becomes rather repetitive after a bunch of episodes).

That’s pretty much what held this show back for me. Do not let that discourage you however, because there have been plenty of people who experienced the characters in a completely different way. Heck, at the beginning of this season I did not expect another series this year to come close to the amount of acclaim that Madoka Magica got. I personally did have these beefs with the characters, but even there there are still plenty of good parts about the cast of characters, in particular their development.

Storytelling: 9/10 – Really knows how to deliver stunning plot twists. Has a unique and down to earth style and uses it really well.
Characters: 8/10 – Some annoying and forced acting was probably the thing that bugged me the most about this series.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Very smooth animation is wonderful to see, though there also are many inconsistencies during the quiet scenes.
Setting: 10/10 – A truly excellent story about time travel and all of its intricacies. It’s creative and boldly written together.

Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Bokura no

33 Responses

  1. Addictd says:

    I loved the characters, especially the way Okabe was during the light hearted moments. But that’s just me. The plot of the show has to be one of the best I’ve seen, out of anything, anime or not. The attention to every little detail was just awesome, and I’m really looking forward to the movie.

  2. lostsage says:

    “(I mean, there are still parts where you’re going to have to suspend your disbelief)”
    I think your disbelief should have been suspended the moment time-travel is mentioned. But I see what you mean because there are some logic jumps you have to make.

    Regardless, it was an infinity entertaining show.

  3. Darklord says:

    Personally, this is the anime not only of the year so far but also of the last 4 years for me. I think the last anime that got me so emotionally involved was TTGL.

    By the way, I love how you always put Suggestions at the end of a show’s review. The best way to deal with withdrawal from a great show is to watch another great show similar to it – although this may result in an unfortunate comparison.

    in any case, I have always meant to watch Noein, and I think theme-wise it is the closest one to Steins;Gate.

  4. Pafiume says:

    I must agree with Addictd. I loved the characters. I dropped this series after the first episode because it seemed so boring. Then after reading what people said about it, and actually mostly because I wanted to see the trap, I continued on, marathoning up to where it was. I fell in love as I was watching, probably with the plot. But then as time went on I fell in love with the characters as well.

    Wonderful, wonderful series. So good I cannot even type correctly right now and have to correct myself every other word.

    Probably one of, if not just, my favorite series.

  5. meee says:

    The characters are one of the best parts of this series to me, I’m shocked you note them as a weakness. Okabe, Kurisu and Suzuha are awesome characters, even if the rest aren’t so great. However, Kurisu and Okabe more than make up for that with me.

  6. AKI says:

    Adding to the characters; don’t you think that the voice actresses/actors did an excellent job portraying their characters? Seki Tomokazu is his extreme nasal voice, come on, man, that’s very had to do. How about Saori Goto’s portrayal of a mentally unbalanced Moeka – that was some excellent voice acting.

  7. kat says:

    really going to miss this series, loved every minute of it

  8. Blue Bomber says:

    Very few anime make me want to watch them through a second time, no matter how good they may be, but this is one of them.

  9. Joojoobees says:

    Unquestionably a high-point of the year. Very few shows impress me as much as this one did.

  10. gandalf8 says:

    I quite liked Chaos Head, so when I heard that Steins;Gate, another of Nitroplus’s VN was going to be an anime, I was really excited. Nevertheless, one way or another I somehow didn’t watch the first episode, and as the weeks went by I just told myself I’ll probably watch it when its all over. Yet, just a few days ago, after seeing the past few episodes you rated as awesome, I finally succumbed to pressure and immediately marathoned it, and here I am now, after just finishing that last episode. In some ways I’m glad I did this, as Steins;Gate really had a lot wicked cliffhangers that I would probably have acted like a junkie waiting for his next fix after each weekly episode lol.

    As for the show, I can safely say that Steins;Gate will easily enter my top 20 anime list (if I ever get to making one). Its beguiling blend of scientific theories, conspiracies, tragedy and a dash of romance made for one really unforgettable show. Special mention has to be given to the science used in the series. Even though we all know (at least publicly that is) that time travel is currently impossible, yet this show managed to set up a convincing scientific background in the series world through the combination of real world science with the in-world science logic. I found myself engrossed in all the scientific theories, that although I can’t claim nor prove they are real, yet they made sense in the terms of what happened in the series world. Therefore I really have to applaud Nitroplus, especially the writers, for the extensive research they had to do to create the complex world of Steins;Gate. Bravo indeed.

    In terms of the characters, I do agree that they aren’t all really fleshed out, but I thought that the two main characters, Okabe and Kurisu were superbly developed and portrayed. They started as cliched stereotypes, but through the course of the series we see them mature and blossom into amazing characters. Especially Okabe, who at first was excited at experimenting with time travel with the phone microwave and d-mail, gradually learned the folly of playing with time, and learning that each action you make can lead to dire consequences. While Kurisu, who started as a typical genius science tsundere girl, grew into Okabe’s pillar of strength in each world line when Okabe sought to right his wrongs. In fact, the blossoming of their romance and chemistry with each other felt very genuine and real, so that even I had to hold back from crying my heart out when Kurisu told Okabe to let her die in the original timeline to save Mayuri. The other characters were noticeably less well developed, yet were adequate enough for the purposes of supporting the main characters. The one character that I would have like them to explore more though was definitely Mayuri, as the glimpses of her past really hinted at something deep and tragic behind her ever smiling and cheerful facade.

    Well as they say, everything good and bad will one day come to an end. There will be other anime series to watch, and in time I may never be able to remember much about it, but for now, at this time and this day, I can truly from the bottom of my heart say that I’m glad I could experience the story of Steins;Gate.

  11. Skoopman says:

    Great show and one of the best in years. I also have to disagree with you, the characters are great and I don’t think that Okabe is “trying too hard”, it makes him a special charakter and not yet another cliché hero.

  12. skyhack says:

    What a fun ride. This goes on the buy list, if it ever makes it here. Rock on, Okabe!

  13. Fadeway says:

    I also agree with some commenters, the characters were awesome – Okarin is unique, yet still incredibly well explored, and just about the only main character who didn’t get an in-depth analysis was Daru, quite likely because he was..normal, as far as a Supa Hacka can be normal.

  14. Frost says:

    What everyone else said… Im dumbfounded at how you complain about the characters here, but praise the characters in Blood C… WTF?! Did you get abducted by aliens?

    Steins;Gate is miles ahead of anything this year, and I cant even imagine why someone would rate it below 90/100…

    Oh well, whatever, your loss for not appreciating just how awesome this anime was

  15. Okarin!~ says:

    The ending was beautiful. We have followed Okabe to the future and all the way back, with everything in it’s rightful place.

    The most understated and touching moment of the episode was the final scene of Okabe and Kurisu meeting again. Which begs the questions “What does the future hold?” and “Can we decide our own fates?” It was a beautiful and deeply profound moment that I’m a little surprised you didn’t mention psgels. But regardless, brilliant series, definitely the best of the year (sorry AnoHana, but it’s the choice of the Steins;Gate!)

    El Psy Congroo!

  16. Rihan says:

    I really am amazed as to why you think the characters are so bad, although not all of them are fleshed out as much as they could be, they are still much better and much more interesting to watch than those found in other casts. In fact they are what made this series for me.I personally think Okabe and Christina were the best two anime characters of the year and the voice actors of those two deserve rewards for the brilliant performances. I also have to say the dialouge used in this anime was without a doubt the best I have ever seen.

    The other series of 2011 don’t even come close to Steins;gate.

  17. False says:

    You don’t come across many examples of time travel done right — but Steins;Gate is definitely one of them.

    While–for the most part–I quite liked the characters, I didn’t find them particularly well fleshed out. Although, Okabe is still a better protag than 95% of the other anime protags out there…

    I felt that the last six or so eps where kind of rushed and lost a lot of the atmosphere that the preceding episodes had. Still, Steins;Gate is the best anime I’ve watched this year.

  18. tk007 says:

    For those who like Steins;Gate’s plot, I would really suggest reading the VN Ever17.

  19. AKI says:

    Ever17 is pathetic.

  20. Blue Bomber says:

    For anyone who’s gone through the entire original VN, I’ve got a few questions. Just want to know if these are actually answered in the VN. The translation project is going well (if it’s for real), so I don’t want to be spoiled before I find out for myself. ;) A yes/no answer will suffice, or massive spoiler tags plz!

    1. Was that dream Okabe had, about being in a desolate wasteland with Mayuri, relevant to anything beyond being just a dream? Or was it only created by Okabe’s anxiety?

    2. I believe Okabe said he had the sensation of jumping timelines before the events of the series began (don’t remember if it was what caused him to get sick as a kid, or if it happened after he got over it). Is there any explanation as to what caused that timeline shift (maybe Suzuha as John Titor?), or for him to be able to tell the difference between timelines?

    3. Is there any more backstory for Mayuri beyond her just being sad that her grandmother died and having Okabe cheer her up? Feels like there’s something more to her than just what the path the anime took revealed.

  21. LilyGinnyBlack says:

    I disagree on the character department, at least when it comes to Okabe. I find him to be one of the best characters that came out of the Spring Season this year. The other characters had their up and down moments for me (this was mostly with Kurisu, who sometimes became so typical tsundere that I just rolled my eyes), but for the most part I thought the characters were really good.

    I do agree that the plot was excellent! I adore time travel, especially well done time travel, and Steins;Gate gave me a really good time travel story. So no complaints from me there.

    The only weak point that I can really see in this series is that some people may be turned off by the way it presents itself. Perhaps its mood? In other words, the slow character and plot building, the seemingly useless conversations, are definitely not for everyone and can really turn people away from the series as a whole. Since they may find it to be boring.

    Other than that, this series made me cry and laugh and be intrigued, so I enjoyed it a lot!

  22. Will says:

    It’s sad that the anime had to contradict itself for the sake of sweet emotional drama. Anyway, one of the better sci-fi of the recent years, that’s for sure.

  23. Tetsuo says:

    Great Review and thx for your wonderfull Blog, i allways wait for your Reviews bevore watching a new Show tbh^^

  24. jreding says:

    I thoroughly enjoyed the first half, in particular Okabe’s and Kurisu’s hilarious antics. Those ridiculous nicknames Okabe invented for everyone else (like “Celeb 17”) literally kept sticking in my head after some time. Both Okabe and Kurisu became well fleshed-out and likeable characters to me. I also liked Feyris, and I think Ruka would have deserved some more time. Insofar I disagree. The simple animation was somewhat made up by the atmospheric lightning and colour palette which you aptly pointed out in one of your episode reviews.

    The second half, however, was much less convincing for me than the first one. What bugged me most is that I found the plot unbelievable and full of holes. You write that in some parts the viewer had to suspend his disbelief. This worked for me as long as it was about allowing for the possibility of time travel. However, the world lines theory was not followed consistently. If you allow for this kind of time travel, no one had to worry about losing his/ her life, gender, parents or whatever when it is just Okabe’s consciousness that’s “travelling”. People wouldn’t even notice that “Okabe” changed his timeline. Kurisu at some point mentions this herself (I think in ep. 22). The revelation in ep. 24 that other people don’t have Reading Steiner but somehow vaguely remember their former/ other timeline was not convincing to me, either.

    In the end I still think it is a very good show for the excellent dialogue and the intricate plot. Even though I didn’t find the plot believable I still admire it for its construction.

  25. hoiut says:

    I’m scared of comment #25…

  26. IBN5100 says:

    I can only asume that you mistakingly placed Blood C’s “character paragraph” in this review. Seriously, the cast is perfect for the story. I can’t see the plot working without them. Episode 22, for example, could never deliver the emotion it had if Kurisu and Okabe’s relationship had been developed any different. I really disagree with you there. Overall, I must say this is my favorite anime of latest releases. Definitely worth watching again. ;)

  27. kura says:

    I have to agree that the characterizations are not that strong. Personally I did not like Okabe as much as most people do. I found his forced laughter and put-on persona somewhat annoying and childish. As for Kurisu, I could not warm to her at all. I think that it is mostly because of her tsundere personality and I never like those types. I do like Mayuri (surprisingly – I usually hate airhead types as well) but my dislike for Kurisu is not because I want Mayuri to be paired with Okabe.

    I feel that the romance between Okabe and Kurisu is unbelievable especially when there is little build up on Okabe’s side and all there was on Kurisu’s part was the tsundere blushing. They should have all stayed friends if there was to be so little development between them.

    That said, I did like the story and I’m glad I watched it.

  28. Vince says:

    It is an amazing anime but the tropes were certainly annoying for me that I had to hold off for a while by episode 8. The payoff was worth sitting through forced stereotypes and a little slow pacing on the first half. I’m relieved to see I wasn’t the only one thinking about that a little flawed characterisation.

  29. Kalem says:

    I really enjoyed this series, being one of those who dropped it after 6 episodes only to pick it up again and love it. The characters in the first half were terrible and two dimensional, falling for a load of anime clichés. But when the plot picked up it was amazing watching how each one slowly changed into such a more believable and well thought out person. Especially Okabe, while annoying at first, he became much more mature as his spirit shattered.

    There were a few plot holes that irked me, even though I am more than happy to over look them. One that immediately springs to mind is why there weren’t three Okabes playing out their roles over Kurisu’s death.

    Still, a fantastic series that I highly recommend.

  30. David says:

    i find some of your reviews quite bad frankly, and some are good . But Steins gate is highly praised , its ranked #3 on MAL

  31. Janfred says:

    I also believe that Kirisu and Okabe have cool personality and development, which can cover all its weak points ^^
    And yeah this is one of the best anime that I really love to repeat again and again ^^

  32. Janfred says:

    This is one of the Best of 2011 I guess ^^

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Damn fujoshi fuel, but behind all the gay sure Yuri on Ice!!! is a great series.
Yeah, This weeks Flip Flappers disappointed me. Maybe because there was no Pure illusion this week.
@lenlo: Flip Flappers is one the most original anime out of this season, in both good and bad terms. You could try the first episode to see if it's your thing.
@anon381106: I actually found this week's Flip Flappers to be my least favorite episode so far.
How is flip flappers? Only things ive really started watching this season are Yuri!!! on Ice and Drifers
Flip Flappers episode 4 was just lovely.
Also real dickish that she has an attack in her last form that specifically counters shields. Maybe the whole problem is that I just picked the wrong kind of style for the fight but Zeiwhander and shield has never failed me before.
However any time I got trapped in the corner it was because she was just constantly attacking without pulling back. Rolling was dodgy as you could be easily caught in her next attack. Blocking does no real good either as she's still draining your stamina, health and pushing you back.
@Lenlo, yeah I started aiming for him to get through it but then I was still getting blindsided by her. My build is strength based and I was using a zeiwhander and shield. I couldn't wail on the big guy hard or else I would be in a attack animation when the girl lays down the ice.
See, I never had a problem with the second form because the large guy is so easy to hit and will simply miss you if you stay close to him. I think the one gripe I have with the fight is the heal, because with 2 bosses, you cant stop it alot of the time. I would argue that not getting trapped in a corner though is a skill you cultivate and is more the players fault than the bosses.
Though I actually was happy when they went invisible as that's when I can shave off a heavy chunk of their HP. Still if you happen to miss the small sign of where they jumped then you are screwed on that.
Healing, huge area of effect attacks, grab moves with barely any windup, freeze weapon effects that slow down attack animations, three goddamn forms, can turn invisible, long ass combos leaving little counterattack room and having to fight two bosses at the same time. Honestly, my victory here really depended in them not using certain attacks.
@Lenlo, I liked the visual design and the idea of it. However they gave it far too many cheap attacks. The second form is way to chaotic and depending on how they attack can put you in a position where you really can't do anything. Like when one breaths fire while the other starts healing, then you can't stop it. The final form as well, the minute they get you into a corner, you are done.
Whaaat? I loved that last boss.
Took me 2 and half hours to see everything in the DLC. Took me another 3 hours to beat the boss. Damn that boss had me in the zone. I think its was a serious bullshit artifical difficultly boss but man...beating that bullshit boss solo...felt good.
@Mario, starting to think I didn't need my help after all. I hope they make something worthwhile.
On a unrelated note the Dark Souls 3 DLC boss is serious bullshit.
Hey Aidan, thqt Kickstarter project Mecha-ude has passed its goal (nearly double now with 10 more days to go). Seems like people getting real hype for it
Wonder if Bam has played the new Dark Souls DLC. Found it rather lacking when compared to previous DLC from the last games.
@Anon, it's just a video of a still image of anime girls in bikini's with a red circle around one of their chests. Seeing as this thing has no views or subscribers my guess is someones is fishing for views. To which i say...what really is the point of making videos if this is the only way you can get people to watch them?
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I"] hate this crap that they corrupt anime with (crappy video that insults anime)
So RWBY's back. I actually miss the whole RWBY team. Still prefer Ruby's old custom more. Nora looks cool.
With the fourth episode, Vivid Strike seems to have crossed an invisible line that makes it more like the original Nanoha shows rather than Vivid. The kind of brutal beatdown delivered by the co-protagonist and the build up to it is something quite alien to a normal SoL/Sports anime show.
Ep. 4 of Tiger Mask was a lot better than the last 3, quite a hyped fight that was a full 6mins long. Will continue watching in hope of an awesomely long final fight.
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Going back to the fanservice topic, its very easy to complain about it in anything but then something actually comes along that actually does it for you. I mean I always say that I don't watch a show/movie for its fanservice elements and stick with pictures on image boards, but then I ended up seeing a film where I actually got something out of the fanservice while watching the film its.
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The oujia prequel was competent genre fare, the director cared about the characters and every now and the built up a decent mood. Although jump Scares are there . And I always appreciate a horror film having a mean spirited ending. One of the rare cases where the young actors do well in a horror film. The pace is a bit uneven, rushed and a bit laggy .
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In the sense of how messed up/especially bleak those two episodes were.
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There was the sense too with both those episodes of "Jesus...I wasn't ready for that...."
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Though the first episode of the first season and the third episode of season 3 are very hard to beat. Adding to what I thought of s3 ep3 I felt that one hit me on the same level as s1 ep1 did so.
Though in previous seasons I generally only really liked 2 out of the 3.
@Kaiser, though the previous seasons where only 3 episodes long and you enjoyed 3 out of 6 in this season. So yo essentially get the same amount of enjoyment as previous seasons.
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Based on my comments, it looks like I had a mixed reaction to the third season. Three out of six, but the great was was great and forgives it but I still feel that there was more of a consistentancy in quality in the other seasons. I enjoyed every story in seasons 1 and 2.
Kaiser Eoghan
The final episode felt like a movie all on its own, I'd have gladly watched another thirty minutes of it, ending was a nice punch in the gut.
Just finished black mirror season 3. I hear people basically complaining that it's not as strong as the previous two season but I disagree. I really enjoyed this and this is a show that deserves much more episodes. Personal favorite is between shut up and dance and hated in the nation. Worst I thought was San Junipero. Overall thought each episode was interesting.
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On the upside I loved black mirrors fifth episode, I'm a sucker for war/action-dramas and I particularly liked the tech in this one.
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Yeah this is impossible for me to sit through, the romance part is also rather dull.
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Eh, this fourth episode is plodding and trite, feels like a bad, poorly dated 90s film.
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@Aidan: Third episode also instilled a great sense of paranoia.
@Kaiser: thanks for that mate. I have too much to say for Flipflappers but to put them all in coherent flow is goddamn hard. And like I said I still fell I left many details out: that gung-ho potato or Yayaka and the twins
@Friend: jugding from the last convention I went to, people loved Re:Zero customs (Emilia and Rem, Ram were highlights. Or you could try RWBY characters (I for once love to see someone cosplay Pirrha Nikos or Velvet Scarlatina)
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@Aidan: Didn't care much for new black mirrors second episode, then again I'm not really the target for that story. The third episode while a bit heavyhanded and predictable was suspenseful, nasty/mean and I liked that about it, did in 50 minutes what some thrillers fail to achieve in two hours.
Holo is a good one :0
Materials aren't a problem at all for the most part, except for anything too crazy like working in brass. I'd prefer it to be characters I'm familiar with.
Does it matter to you that they're from shows that you like, or are you just in it for the challenge?
@Friend Aidan has some good ones there. I'd also give the cast of Akame ga Kiru a shot, I don't like the series but it has a lot of neat character designs.
I was thinking simple as I didn't know what kind of materials you got on hand. I was also thinking of Holo from spice and wolf or Kino from Kinos journey either.
Mm, Tatsumaki might be not challenging enough to design for. Doesn't Shiki simply wear either a coat or Japanese kimono? I do work in set design and not in character prop design, but I'd love to try something that would let me reasonably challenge myself.
@Friend, Spit balling here but Tatsumaki from One Punch Man? I know the costume for that one would be simple enough. Or maybe Shiki from Kara No Kyoukai?
*I don't want to do anything too complex for my first try, but I also don't want to do anything boring. Boring would be a character like Rukia or Celty. Any ideas?
I remember talking about this with Emma/Kaiser before, but has anyone here gone cosplaying at an expo before? I thought it would be neat to try designing my own costume and try something else beside drawing on a computer.
@Kaiser, I am up to episode 4. 3 has been the best one so far.Though in all these episodes I pretty much figured out the twist from the get go. Still this shows always tends to get you thinking.
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I think the roles/identity thing with flipflappers, at least with the protaganist does fit in well with adolescence.
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@Aidan: I've only seen the first episode so far. I felt the acting was intentional and reflected the satire Brooker was going for on the shallow nature of society. Bleak as ever but gloriously grotesque.
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@Mario:Good in depth reviewing there Mario of flipflappers episode three.
Good god this first episode of black mirror is hard to watch. I know exactly how it's going to turn out but it's just so damn painful to watch.
Well, tbh up to where I've seen there's not much explicit yaoi in yuri on ice, only a lot of fujoshi fuel.
@Kaiser. thanks for the torrent. Gonna blaze through this today.
@Topgavin, as someone who watches a metric ton of anime I am rather surprised at that estimate that 90% of it contains Yuri.
My god those gay scenes in Yuri on Ice are hard to watch for me. Wonder if this is how it feels to be a girl watching 90% of normal anime nowadays.
okay, Flip Flappers episodic review was up. This is my lengthiest weekly review so far and I still feel I missed a lot of points. Damn you Flip Flappers
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You have seen the light, not needing to know everything thats happening to enjoy something ^_^
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I've given some consideration to reviewing that oujia film followup.
Whether you see one or the other is entirely up to your preferences, so it makes no difference to me which is worse. I have gotten very tired of generic character types, but again that's just because of the things I decide to regularly follow.
I will say if it must come down to either unnatural dialogue or unnatural character types, at leas the character type is speaking their own words and not the words of the script writer.
Or was that a black and white fallacy? Maybe it was a little of both.
@Realjustified, K-Off wasn't agreeing with me. That's a Moving the Goal Posts logical Fallacy but well I will answer regardless. Honestly it's preferable to have neither. The big mistake you are making here is that you are putting down a condiction that a show must have one or the other. But both cartoons and anime can have both. I just think it's a lot more prominent in cartoons than anime.
Like, having read hundreds of harem manga over the years, a majority of the ultimate love interest always happens to be the first girl the protagonist meets.
Wait wait wait wait. Aidan and K-Off. I get that dialogue in cartoon can seem like it was written by a script writer, but at the same time, lots of anime have characters whose sole purpose is entirely scripted. The whole spectrum of "deres" and everything. What do you think is worse? Unnatural dialogue, or unnatural character types?
You guys should really go fuck yourself, it's a solution and it's nothing short of great!
You guys should really watch the first 4 episodes of Bungo, it's a prequel and it was nothing short of great!
omg!! I just realized To be Hero was one of the show that I reviewed its 1st episode back in Chinese Animation post. I watched raw then though
forgive me if I'm a bit too overwhelmed by Flip Flappers... For this episode alone I took like 25 screenshots...trying to write a review now...
I have absolutely no idea what is going on in Flip Flappers plot. And yet for some reason I am OK with that.
Anyone out there that's a fan of crude humor should go watch ep.3 of To Be Hero. Certinately stepped it up a notch from the last two humor-wise.
One downside I can think of already is that I'm bound to lose or break one of the detachable controllers. The cost for those pieces is what I'm most interested in.
Nintendo Switch hmm? Honestly it looks too good to be true. I expect some major downsides to this thing.
I like cartoons, don't get me wrong. Certainly good for a change of pace. But there is something about the way they are written that I find rather distracting.
I don't know, maybe if I said it's like the difference from how characters talk in movie vs how characters talk in a sitcom?
@K-Off, I said one liner's or jokes. Not one liner jokes. It's hard to explain. Basically when I hear a conversation in anime even if it is based in stereotypes, it at least feels like a conversation that's being had in the moment. In cartoons however there is a layer of artificiality and it feels like characters know what a person is going to say and has a response prepared.
That's probably why some of my favorite anime in recent years haven't been very heavy on character archetypes, or were either parodies of it.
Comedic dialogue with anime in recent years have leaned too much on the idea of playing off character archetypes. The collected character vs the energetic character, for one. I'd like to see more variety. Some more word play, hyperbolic humor, body humor, etc etc.
@Aidan Not quite sure what you mean by that, because it's certainly not even a majority of cartoons that rely on cheap one liner jokes. I suppose it's entirely up to taste, but I can appreciate the energy in cartoons like Steven Universe or Regular Show when compared to the increasingly repetitive dialogue found in some recent anime.
@Topgavin: I just read that review and his main reason being Shelter is pretentious. oh well! Can't never please anyone.
Thought I'd check out the reviews for Shelter on MAl and the top review is a 1/10. Apparently because it's a cute girl we sympathise with her more, which is bad because reasons. I mean.. what? MAL never ceases to amaze me
@Mario, no. It's more that the dialogue keeps trying to push out one liners or jokes regardless of whose talking.
@Aidan: maybe because they spoke in your native language do you can feel that it's artificial, ya know? I know I have the same problem with Vietnamese drama/ cartoon and maybe Japanese people have that same issues with anime?
By which I mean, the way characters talk in cartoons is very...artificial. Like you can tell that the dialgoue was clearly written beforehand and it never really sounds natural. At least to me.
@Anon, I wouldn't. The writing and structure are too cartoon. What with the episodic nature and dialogue that generally pushes for a comedic tone.
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Flanagan also directed absentia which I haven't seen yet but I think someone I came across of 4chan linked it to being lovecraftian?
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Oculus was a film of two halves for me. Hush was a pretty standard home invasion thriller, making the victim deaf was an interesting twist but not as unique as you might think, still suspenseful though.
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I never saw the first oujia film. Though Mike Flanagan who did the sequel, he's never made a bad movie but he's never really made a great one either.
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I stick to the firm belief that cartoons and anime, visually should do and be their own thing. I'll prefer a western artstyle for cartoons rather than one pretending to look like anime style.
But this is a good topic and I'm sure everyone has their own opinions so I'm looking to hear some more arguments
@anon352392: no they aren't. For me not because of where their production based, nor their intended audience, but rather their styles, both visually and storytelling-ly, are different
Anime,” they assert, is not a “style” of illustration or animation.
That's where I differ to those guys. For me, anime is a style. In that sense, I consider RWBY, and Canadian-produced short Flutter as an anime. Thunderbolt Fantasy is not and anime-influence shows/movies that are intented for Western audience like AniMatrix or Afro Samurai are anime
@Anon nah they wouldn't be because they aren't made by a japanese producer for the japanese market. Quality isn't the question, production is
NX and Red Dead Redemption 2 trailers tomorrow.
They are good series and i honestly like them alot more than most anime series, would their quality make them anime?
What about cartoons like Steven Universe, Gravity Falls, Wander Over Yonder, Star Vs The Forces Of Evil?
In other news a sequel to an absolutely terrible horror movie called Ouija is out and it's...actually pretty good? Wondering if critics were paid off or it is legit good. Well it did have the guy who was behind Oculus and that was a pretty good movie.
Simplify the term down enough and anime is literally anything animated but the whole point of the term is to distinguish it. For to call Spongebob an anime makes me want to projectile vomit. Point is this, you say you watched a cartoon, people think Tom and jerry, Scooby doo etc. You say you watched an anime, people think Cowboy bebop, Attack on titan, etc. Whole point of the term.
For example, I don't consider Avatar or RWBY to be anime for while they use anime style, the writing is fundamentally structured like an American cartoon. Through I would consider Bloodivores an anime even though it was made by a Chinese animation company, making it technically a Chinese cartoon.
As far as what is and isn't anime I honestly think of the term as a means of distinguishing it from cartoon which gives the impression of being for children. It's like Graphic novel is to comic book. Though techically graphic novels are issues of comics bound in book form, the term Graphic novel is often used to distinguish works that go above superhero comics and whatnot.
Basically I think it was due to Porter Robinsons involvement that they didn't consider it anime.
@Aidan: Did the mods give any concrete reasons why they didn't consider it an anime?
@Mario, It wasn't the community that had the problem. It was the mods. The community made it pretty clear that they considered it anime.
So despite the art style is obviously anime, the character speaks in Japanese, and the production was animated by A1 Studios, it's not an anime? Sometimes I feel sad that the anime community keeps limiting themselves with such fixed minds.
I saw it yesterday and yes it was good. For a 5-minute story, they don't make it too overwhelme with details, and still pack an emotional punch. Moreover it elevates the song. Good stuffs.
Shelter was quite good though. It works well and the animation was beautiful. Song is not bad either. It's got a nice emotional punch to it though it's a bit simple a story.
Well anyway I only saw all this because I checked out the video for the first time and wanted to see how others thought of it with a quick scan through reddit. And I get this shitshow instead.
Playing the victim is the one really pisses off the internet. For refusing to admit you f*cked up only encourages people to shove how you f*cked up into your face. That's what really grinds peoples gears.
Yep, seen that too. The mods even put up another tread about the video and tried to guilt trip people by saying they got death threats. Look, internet rules 101. If you said or did something stupid admit to it and just walk away. Do not try to deflect blame or play the victim, that only adds fuel to the fire.
@Aidan oh yeah saw that live lol. Porter himself even commented on twitter about it, gotta love internet drama
So did anyone happen to catch the big old shitstorm of that Shelter music music when a mod of the Anime subreddit decided it wasn't "Anime" enough and removed the discussion post about it? Oh internet drama...what silly nonsense.
Finally caught up with JoJo. Diamond is Unbreakable has turned out to be much better than Stardust Crusaders. Should have waited for the season to finish through as I really loved marathoning it.
I had a feeling that might be the case considering the source materail for luger.
@Mario Oh I watched that, certinately worth it. Packed more story that some 12-episode shows do nowadays and gorgeous animation.
and I will check out "Shelter" music video to see what all the fuss is about
*this weekend to be exact.
Sounds like Luger Code 1951 is an OVA that will air next week, the same air date with "my" Zaregoto OVA.
@Mario: doesn't sound real at all to me lol
@Mario, I might be able to manage. If all else fails I can talk about the past of these historical figures.
While I don't mind watchinng Drifters, I swaer if I had to cover that show, I couldn't come up with anything to say.
Do you guys know what language the fairies speak in Drifters? It does sound like a genuine language
@topgavin: humanity has declined is a great show. It has good writing and dark, witty sense of humor. I could talk about it in length but psgels pretty much covered it all. He was really impressed by that show however.
That should be me covered till the weekend. Why do all my shows air on the weekend...
@Mario nah I've watched the whole thing but I'd heard about it at the start of this year and put it off. The dialogue between her and the fairies was great stuff, probably gonna rewatch it this weekend now that you mention it
Alright, I got three posts written up and will be throwing them out in about two hours or do.
I thought you've finished it. Yeah I love her character a lot, so cynical but witty. My favorite moment was when she read about fairy's plan to invent religions. She was like "so religions are invented?" (beat) "I've learn something new today". Priceless
@Mario Oh nice, it was one that I had heard about but never got round to. To put it in simple anime terms, Watashi is best girl
@topgavin: I just finished the series yo mentioned the other day: humanity is declined. Man, I love it. I know now I have a thing for dark twisted absurdist anime
@Ano340004: the name is Watashi ga Motete Dousunda, or to put it short Motete. I have fun with it but i'm not that enthuastic
@anon the english name is Kiss him, not me. Search through the first impressions if you need the jap name.
then that girl really loves BL (boy love)
what is the name of the anime that the girl is fat and then she got depressed because her favorite boy anime died then she got thin?
Season 7 is awesome so far too. It feels like the tone of the show is finally back to normal and it feels like Adventure Time again.
Whew, I binged all seasons of Adventure Time this weekend. The show hit a low spot in Season 6 but I think it needed to happen...Poor Finn needed the serious character development after what he did to FP.
You guys are too hard on it
Motete is very funny
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When it comes to gag manga and four-koma, I just eventually reach a stopping point with a comedy series in that format. Even with hidamari sketch.
I think it was typical light novel trash based on what was in the PV. I laughed that despite it being horrible that the crowd still cheered anyway, likely because it had a bath clip in it.
The PV was hilarious. I had no idea what the anime was about.
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