Posted by psgels on 13 September 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews, Steins;Gate




There is one thing at which Steins;Gate is unrivaled at compared to anything else that aired this year: its plot. If it’s originality, creative twists and multi layers that you want, then this is a must-watch. This has a bit of a slow start, but as the series goes on its intricately woven plot about time travel shines like no other and this show is masterful at combining seemingly insignificant hooks into gripping plot twist. This definitely stood out as one of the most solid shows of the past half year.

Helping with that is a unique style of this series. The entire series is animated with dull and washed out colours, the animation is simple and only becomes really smooth when it really needs to (with great effects, by the way),and a lot of time in this series is spent on characters just talking to each other while the plot slowly progresses. It’s slow, but each episode has its purpose, even though this only may become apparent later on. The lead characters’ monologues in particular are well written, but on top of that this is a series that really did its research into time travel. It may not present the most logical way that time travel might be possible (I mean, there are still parts where you’re going to have to suspend your disbelief), but it’s very well researched.

The weakest part of this series is its cast of characters. Obviously they’re not bad, but they do have a few quirks that didn’t make them as interesting to follow as some of their counterparts. In particular, the acting of the main cast leaves things to be desired, in which they’re trying too hard to fit themselves into certain stereotypes. Daru, Kurisu and Mayuri are the biggest examples of this, which often makes them annoying to watch. The main character Okabe meanwhile just tries too hard: during the dramatic parts he tends to act too dramatic, and during the light-hearted parts he tends to act too over the top (which becomes rather repetitive after a bunch of episodes).

That’s pretty much what held this show back for me. Do not let that discourage you however, because there have been plenty of people who experienced the characters in a completely different way. Heck, at the beginning of this season I did not expect another series this year to come close to the amount of acclaim that Madoka Magica got. I personally did have these beefs with the characters, but even there there are still plenty of good parts about the cast of characters, in particular their development.

Storytelling: 9/10 – Really knows how to deliver stunning plot twists. Has a unique and down to earth style and uses it really well.
Characters: 8/10 – Some annoying and forced acting was probably the thing that bugged me the most about this series.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Very smooth animation is wonderful to see, though there also are many inconsistencies during the quiet scenes.
Setting: 10/10 – A truly excellent story about time travel and all of its intricacies. It’s creative and boldly written together.

Suggestions:
Noein
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Bokura no

33 Responses

  1. Addictd says:

    I loved the characters, especially the way Okabe was during the light hearted moments. But that’s just me. The plot of the show has to be one of the best I’ve seen, out of anything, anime or not. The attention to every little detail was just awesome, and I’m really looking forward to the movie.

  2. lostsage says:

    “(I mean, there are still parts where you’re going to have to suspend your disbelief)”
    I think your disbelief should have been suspended the moment time-travel is mentioned. But I see what you mean because there are some logic jumps you have to make.

    Regardless, it was an infinity entertaining show.

  3. Darklord says:

    Personally, this is the anime not only of the year so far but also of the last 4 years for me. I think the last anime that got me so emotionally involved was TTGL.

    By the way, I love how you always put Suggestions at the end of a show’s review. The best way to deal with withdrawal from a great show is to watch another great show similar to it – although this may result in an unfortunate comparison.

    in any case, I have always meant to watch Noein, and I think theme-wise it is the closest one to Steins;Gate.

  4. Pafiume says:

    I must agree with Addictd. I loved the characters. I dropped this series after the first episode because it seemed so boring. Then after reading what people said about it, and actually mostly because I wanted to see the trap, I continued on, marathoning up to where it was. I fell in love as I was watching, probably with the plot. But then as time went on I fell in love with the characters as well.

    Wonderful, wonderful series. So good I cannot even type correctly right now and have to correct myself every other word.

    Probably one of, if not just, my favorite series.

  5. meee says:

    The characters are one of the best parts of this series to me, I’m shocked you note them as a weakness. Okabe, Kurisu and Suzuha are awesome characters, even if the rest aren’t so great. However, Kurisu and Okabe more than make up for that with me.

  6. AKI says:

    Adding to the characters; don’t you think that the voice actresses/actors did an excellent job portraying their characters? Seki Tomokazu is his extreme nasal voice, come on, man, that’s very had to do. How about Saori Goto’s portrayal of a mentally unbalanced Moeka – that was some excellent voice acting.

  7. kat says:

    really going to miss this series, loved every minute of it

  8. Blue Bomber says:

    Very few anime make me want to watch them through a second time, no matter how good they may be, but this is one of them.

  9. Joojoobees says:

    Unquestionably a high-point of the year. Very few shows impress me as much as this one did.

  10. gandalf8 says:

    I quite liked Chaos Head, so when I heard that Steins;Gate, another of Nitroplus’s VN was going to be an anime, I was really excited. Nevertheless, one way or another I somehow didn’t watch the first episode, and as the weeks went by I just told myself I’ll probably watch it when its all over. Yet, just a few days ago, after seeing the past few episodes you rated as awesome, I finally succumbed to pressure and immediately marathoned it, and here I am now, after just finishing that last episode. In some ways I’m glad I did this, as Steins;Gate really had a lot wicked cliffhangers that I would probably have acted like a junkie waiting for his next fix after each weekly episode lol.

    As for the show, I can safely say that Steins;Gate will easily enter my top 20 anime list (if I ever get to making one). Its beguiling blend of scientific theories, conspiracies, tragedy and a dash of romance made for one really unforgettable show. Special mention has to be given to the science used in the series. Even though we all know (at least publicly that is) that time travel is currently impossible, yet this show managed to set up a convincing scientific background in the series world through the combination of real world science with the in-world science logic. I found myself engrossed in all the scientific theories, that although I can’t claim nor prove they are real, yet they made sense in the terms of what happened in the series world. Therefore I really have to applaud Nitroplus, especially the writers, for the extensive research they had to do to create the complex world of Steins;Gate. Bravo indeed.

    In terms of the characters, I do agree that they aren’t all really fleshed out, but I thought that the two main characters, Okabe and Kurisu were superbly developed and portrayed. They started as cliched stereotypes, but through the course of the series we see them mature and blossom into amazing characters. Especially Okabe, who at first was excited at experimenting with time travel with the phone microwave and d-mail, gradually learned the folly of playing with time, and learning that each action you make can lead to dire consequences. While Kurisu, who started as a typical genius science tsundere girl, grew into Okabe’s pillar of strength in each world line when Okabe sought to right his wrongs. In fact, the blossoming of their romance and chemistry with each other felt very genuine and real, so that even I had to hold back from crying my heart out when Kurisu told Okabe to let her die in the original timeline to save Mayuri. The other characters were noticeably less well developed, yet were adequate enough for the purposes of supporting the main characters. The one character that I would have like them to explore more though was definitely Mayuri, as the glimpses of her past really hinted at something deep and tragic behind her ever smiling and cheerful facade.

    Well as they say, everything good and bad will one day come to an end. There will be other anime series to watch, and in time I may never be able to remember much about it, but for now, at this time and this day, I can truly from the bottom of my heart say that I’m glad I could experience the story of Steins;Gate.

  11. Skoopman says:

    Great show and one of the best in years. I also have to disagree with you, the characters are great and I don’t think that Okabe is “trying too hard”, it makes him a special charakter and not yet another cliché hero.

  12. skyhack says:

    What a fun ride. This goes on the buy list, if it ever makes it here. Rock on, Okabe!

  13. Fadeway says:

    I also agree with some commenters, the characters were awesome – Okarin is unique, yet still incredibly well explored, and just about the only main character who didn’t get an in-depth analysis was Daru, quite likely because he was..normal, as far as a Supa Hacka can be normal.

  14. Frost says:

    What everyone else said… Im dumbfounded at how you complain about the characters here, but praise the characters in Blood C… WTF?! Did you get abducted by aliens?

    Steins;Gate is miles ahead of anything this year, and I cant even imagine why someone would rate it below 90/100…

    Oh well, whatever, your loss for not appreciating just how awesome this anime was

  15. Okarin!~ says:

    The ending was beautiful. We have followed Okabe to the future and all the way back, with everything in it’s rightful place.

    The most understated and touching moment of the episode was the final scene of Okabe and Kurisu meeting again. Which begs the questions “What does the future hold?” and “Can we decide our own fates?” It was a beautiful and deeply profound moment that I’m a little surprised you didn’t mention psgels. But regardless, brilliant series, definitely the best of the year (sorry AnoHana, but it’s the choice of the Steins;Gate!)

    El Psy Congroo!

  16. Rihan says:

    I really am amazed as to why you think the characters are so bad, although not all of them are fleshed out as much as they could be, they are still much better and much more interesting to watch than those found in other casts. In fact they are what made this series for me.I personally think Okabe and Christina were the best two anime characters of the year and the voice actors of those two deserve rewards for the brilliant performances. I also have to say the dialouge used in this anime was without a doubt the best I have ever seen.

    The other series of 2011 don’t even come close to Steins;gate.

  17. False says:

    You don’t come across many examples of time travel done right — but Steins;Gate is definitely one of them.

    While–for the most part–I quite liked the characters, I didn’t find them particularly well fleshed out. Although, Okabe is still a better protag than 95% of the other anime protags out there…

    I felt that the last six or so eps where kind of rushed and lost a lot of the atmosphere that the preceding episodes had. Still, Steins;Gate is the best anime I’ve watched this year.

  18. tk007 says:

    For those who like Steins;Gate’s plot, I would really suggest reading the VN Ever17.

  19. AKI says:

    Ever17 is pathetic.

  20. Blue Bomber says:

    For anyone who’s gone through the entire original VN, I’ve got a few questions. Just want to know if these are actually answered in the VN. The translation project is going well (if it’s for real), so I don’t want to be spoiled before I find out for myself. ;) A yes/no answer will suffice, or massive spoiler tags plz!

    1. Was that dream Okabe had, about being in a desolate wasteland with Mayuri, relevant to anything beyond being just a dream? Or was it only created by Okabe’s anxiety?

    2. I believe Okabe said he had the sensation of jumping timelines before the events of the series began (don’t remember if it was what caused him to get sick as a kid, or if it happened after he got over it). Is there any explanation as to what caused that timeline shift (maybe Suzuha as John Titor?), or for him to be able to tell the difference between timelines?

    3. Is there any more backstory for Mayuri beyond her just being sad that her grandmother died and having Okabe cheer her up? Feels like there’s something more to her than just what the path the anime took revealed.

  21. LilyGinnyBlack says:

    I disagree on the character department, at least when it comes to Okabe. I find him to be one of the best characters that came out of the Spring Season this year. The other characters had their up and down moments for me (this was mostly with Kurisu, who sometimes became so typical tsundere that I just rolled my eyes), but for the most part I thought the characters were really good.

    I do agree that the plot was excellent! I adore time travel, especially well done time travel, and Steins;Gate gave me a really good time travel story. So no complaints from me there.

    The only weak point that I can really see in this series is that some people may be turned off by the way it presents itself. Perhaps its mood? In other words, the slow character and plot building, the seemingly useless conversations, are definitely not for everyone and can really turn people away from the series as a whole. Since they may find it to be boring.

    Other than that, this series made me cry and laugh and be intrigued, so I enjoyed it a lot!

  22. Will says:

    It’s sad that the anime had to contradict itself for the sake of sweet emotional drama. Anyway, one of the better sci-fi of the recent years, that’s for sure.

  23. Tetsuo says:

    Great Review and thx for your wonderfull Blog, i allways wait for your Reviews bevore watching a new Show tbh^^

  24. jreding says:

    I thoroughly enjoyed the first half, in particular Okabe’s and Kurisu’s hilarious antics. Those ridiculous nicknames Okabe invented for everyone else (like “Celeb 17”) literally kept sticking in my head after some time. Both Okabe and Kurisu became well fleshed-out and likeable characters to me. I also liked Feyris, and I think Ruka would have deserved some more time. Insofar I disagree. The simple animation was somewhat made up by the atmospheric lightning and colour palette which you aptly pointed out in one of your episode reviews.

    The second half, however, was much less convincing for me than the first one. What bugged me most is that I found the plot unbelievable and full of holes. You write that in some parts the viewer had to suspend his disbelief. This worked for me as long as it was about allowing for the possibility of time travel. However, the world lines theory was not followed consistently. If you allow for this kind of time travel, no one had to worry about losing his/ her life, gender, parents or whatever when it is just Okabe’s consciousness that’s “travelling”. People wouldn’t even notice that “Okabe” changed his timeline. Kurisu at some point mentions this herself (I think in ep. 22). The revelation in ep. 24 that other people don’t have Reading Steiner but somehow vaguely remember their former/ other timeline was not convincing to me, either.

    In the end I still think it is a very good show for the excellent dialogue and the intricate plot. Even though I didn’t find the plot believable I still admire it for its construction.

  25. hoiut says:

    I’m scared of comment #25…

  26. IBN5100 says:

    I can only asume that you mistakingly placed Blood C’s “character paragraph” in this review. Seriously, the cast is perfect for the story. I can’t see the plot working without them. Episode 22, for example, could never deliver the emotion it had if Kurisu and Okabe’s relationship had been developed any different. I really disagree with you there. Overall, I must say this is my favorite anime of latest releases. Definitely worth watching again. ;)

  27. kura says:

    I have to agree that the characterizations are not that strong. Personally I did not like Okabe as much as most people do. I found his forced laughter and put-on persona somewhat annoying and childish. As for Kurisu, I could not warm to her at all. I think that it is mostly because of her tsundere personality and I never like those types. I do like Mayuri (surprisingly – I usually hate airhead types as well) but my dislike for Kurisu is not because I want Mayuri to be paired with Okabe.

    I feel that the romance between Okabe and Kurisu is unbelievable especially when there is little build up on Okabe’s side and all there was on Kurisu’s part was the tsundere blushing. They should have all stayed friends if there was to be so little development between them.

    That said, I did like the story and I’m glad I watched it.

  28. Vince says:

    It is an amazing anime but the tropes were certainly annoying for me that I had to hold off for a while by episode 8. The payoff was worth sitting through forced stereotypes and a little slow pacing on the first half. I’m relieved to see I wasn’t the only one thinking about that a little flawed characterisation.

  29. Kalem says:

    I really enjoyed this series, being one of those who dropped it after 6 episodes only to pick it up again and love it. The characters in the first half were terrible and two dimensional, falling for a load of anime clichés. But when the plot picked up it was amazing watching how each one slowly changed into such a more believable and well thought out person. Especially Okabe, while annoying at first, he became much more mature as his spirit shattered.

    There were a few plot holes that irked me, even though I am more than happy to over look them. One that immediately springs to mind is why there weren’t three Okabes playing out their roles over Kurisu’s death.

    Still, a fantastic series that I highly recommend.

  30. David says:

    i find some of your reviews quite bad frankly, and some are good . But Steins gate is highly praised , its ranked #3 on MAL

  31. Janfred says:

    I also believe that Kirisu and Okabe have cool personality and development, which can cover all its weak points ^^
    And yeah this is one of the best anime that I really love to repeat again and again ^^

  32. Janfred says:

    This is one of the Best of 2011 I guess ^^

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Lenlo
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SuperMario
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SuperMario
@Lenlo: the more you described the more I found fencing interesting. I might take a look around my town to see if we have Fencing here (the curse of living in a small town).
Lenlo
Blades are slightly different, yes, but mostly just in their guard and how much they bend. Sabers bend easily, Epee's not so much. Surprisingly Epee is the slowest, because people tend to be more careful. Saber is actually the most aggressive of the blades, atleast at my skill level
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WHY IN THE HOLY HELL ISN'T IT REALISTIC.
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For Right of Way, its basically Person A attacks, Person B parries, Person A hits, Person B hits, Person B gets the point because they took right of way with the parry. Saber and Foil both have that, but Epee does not. Epee is simply "Whoever hits the opponent first, doesnt matter where, whole body is target area"
Lenlo
Theres Saber, Foil and Epee. The main difference is this thing called right of way, but there are other smaller ones like how Saber can hit with the edge and Epee is allowed to hit the entire body, instead of just the chest like Foil
SuperMario
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Kaiser Eoghan
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Lenlo
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That Olympic anime sounds great.
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Kaiser Eoghan
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SuperMario
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SuperMario
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SuperMario
Hey, fencing is actually really cool. How did you like it Lenlo?
SuperMario
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SuperMario
@Lenlo: I'm no expert but isn't American football a variation of Rugby? And I believe american football is more extreme, considering they have to wear helmets, protection gears and all that
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American football looks like a battlefield with a visible battleline and everything. Id like it if there wasnt so many darn commercials.
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@Mario: Mel Gibson as a director, not as an actor =)
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Kaiser Eoghan
Debating whether to bother catching up on I am a hero or watching the film adaptation. I haven't read it since they got rid of that one female character.
Kaiser Eoghan
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Kaiser Eoghan
Now I have that sound euphonium compilation film downloaded, I should get to that sometime.
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Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Seeing I, daniel Blake tomorrow and rogue one in a few weeks.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I hope Mel Gibson and Isabelle huppert win at the next oscars.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I liked the red turtle for its visual style of storytelling and animation even if I didn't get as emotionally attached to it as others did. I also watched Aquarius nd was pretty much blown away by Sonia Braga's performance. Elle is now one of my favourite Verhoeven films and its a miracle he managed to maintain such a great balance successfully throughout the film.
SuperMario
I don't care for the sequel of Code Geass at all. Why Spice & Wolf still hasn't got season 3 though is what really bugged me. From what I know their manga and LNs are selling very well
Anonymous494677
I wonder why that is...
Kaiser Eoghan
Ah, they were always milking code geass though what with those bajillion-million-billion manga spinoffs.
Kaiser Eoghan
Still say I was more fond of the character chemistry in spice and wolf as opposed to everything else.
Kaiser Eoghan
I'll likely pass on the code geass sequel, the memory I have of it has already led to its appeal dimishing for me, I don't want to ruin things further watching an un-neccesary followup. Still avoiding utawerumono's second season for same reasons.
AidanAK47
After all there are things which need sequels and things which don't. And Code Geass never needed a sequel after R2's ending. Giving something a sequel can just ruin the conculsion of the orignal series. Case in point. Eureka Seven Ao. Remember that? Cause you shouldn't. Because it was terrible.
AidanAK47
Honestly I would have preferred Spice and Wolf Season 3.
AidanAK47
So...is anyone gonna mention that Code Geass is getting a sequel?
....Because Code Geass is getting a sequel.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I am watching it as well. But I am a bit behind because I am watching the funimation broadcast dub. It's a very good guilty pleasure. I don't find it quite as funny anymore but it's still pure dumb fun.
SuperMario
@Anon487524: I'm still following it and it still remains a fun show to watch. I love the way they do the fan-servicey completely straight.
Topgavin
@anon I'll admit to watching it. While it is very simple and follows the sport anime formula religiously, it's still a blast to watch every week. This is also helped because you have no expectations for it before watching other than "oh god what's gonna happen this week".
Anonymous487524
Granted, nothing special, just one of those anime whose only worth is being fun to watch without being deep, but Keijo really is fun to watch, easily the best guilty pleasure anime in a long while to me.
Anonymous487524
I started watching it expecting an crappy fanservice anime with nothing of worth, but it ended up being actually pretty fun and awesome to watch.
Anonymous487524
Anyone here seeing Keijo?
SuperMario
What's up with 3-gatsu no Lion? Delayed for a week huh?
Kaiser Eoghan
Checked out Hedeki anno's godzilla re-boot earlier out of curiousity, its a bit plodding/dull at times but sometimes its high camp value played straight is kind of funny, having godzilla evolve during the film was a cool touch and I enjoyed every scene with him and making a Godzilla film today is still very relevant. Not a patch on the old ones though.
Anonymous482380
I think that movie was just so terrible that people made it into a meme. Stuff like "The Entire Bee Movie Except Evey Time They Say 'Bee' The Movie Speeds Up"
Kaiser Eoghan
I'm sorry lmao I had to, it seemed so appropriate a moment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1GadTfGFvU
AidanAK47
Fun Fact: The whole Bees shouldn't be able to fly thing is a myth.
Badesh
I think that was just a dry realization...
AidanAK47
@Topgavin, It's a meme to post the entire script of the bee movie in random places?
....I don't get the joke.
Topgavin
For anyone wondering, I think anon just copy/pasted the entire script for the Bee movie. Memes are goin strong
Anonymous479946
According to all known laws
of aviation,


there is no way a bee
should be able to fly.


Its wings are too small to get
its fat little body off the ground.


The bee, of course, flies anyway


because bees don't care
what humans think is impossible.


Yellow, black. Yellow, black.
Yellow, black. Yellow, black.


Ooh, black and yellow!
Let's shake it up a little.


Barry! Breakfast i
Kaiser Eoghan
Actually I think it was up to about episode ten or so I saw.
Kaiser Eoghan
From what I can recall I watched legend of the galactic heroes somewhere past the part with the Caligula guy.
AidanAK47
That is one thing I wonder about the remake. How are they going to make the space battles interesting? Cause for me theres only so many times you can watch tin boxes shoot lasers and explode.
AidanAK47
I didn't like LOGH until the third episode. That's when it started to catch my attention. It also helps that I have a interest in history as the plot of LOGH practically reads like genuine history.
AidanAK47
In my case the overhype didn't kill it for me as I generally try to avoid that. When I walked into LOGH I was under the impression that it would ahve merit but not be for me. After all I heard it was mostly politics and the politics of Gundam bore me to tears. Funny enough the opposite happened. The space battles bored me but the politics got me really interested.
AidanAK47
@Leahcimali, The problem is that the people who say that something is the best thing they ever seen don't actually mean it. Often it's just hyperbole. When talking we other people fans tend to blow certain things out of proportion unintentionally. Overrated is likely the wrong word but you get what I mean.
leahcimali
@AidankAK47 oh and are you going to write a review about it or because psngel already wrote a review of it you are not gonna write it ?
leahcimali
the problem is trying to rank art . Even comparing a comedy show and a story focus show is clearly impossible. @AidanAK47 do you think the overhype of some hardcore logh fan killed you enjoyment of the show ? Because sometimes when you expect nothing of something you can enjoy it more than when waiting for something incredible.
leahcimali
i hear the same thing from fan of lord of the ring, star wars and game of thrones, star trek ... etc. The hardcore fan of those says that they are the greatest things in history ... but saying there are overated is discrediting the quality of those. Nothing is perfect and again maintening equal quality in a longuer running show is impossible. But having a longer story create a more rich background
LookingForKeys
@Mario Kimi no Na ha is pretty damn good. Watched it while in Japan a couple weeks back. The story has well done surprises, and on the graphics side you can *really* see Production IG worked on it.
leahcimali
I don't think saying logh is overated is a good way to say it. All media with great aclaimed critics or even highly popular show suffer from the fan reaction. If fan claim that it is the best things that they have ever saw and you don't agree, it feels overated. But this is only pure subjectivity. Saying he is greastest thing in history is a way for fan to exprim there love
AidanAK47
However it has been placed on a unreasonable pedestal that nothing could live up to. Eva is sort of in the same boat. So yes it is overrated but that does not mean it isn't great.
AidanAK47
@Leahcimali, if anything is claimed to be the greatest thing in the history of mankind it is overrated. The basic idea that there is a single anime out there which is fundamental and universally better than all other anime regardless of genre or intent is inherently a flawed concept. I do certainly see why LOGH is so highly acclaimed and I believe it is well worth watching.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I didn't look into the details of the new LOGH remake. I was planning on doing that when I am doing an anime season preview for it whenever it's going to air next year. For a long anime it does rate highly but even then I am not certain it really needed all 110 of those episodes.
leahcimali
about your comment are you thinking the LOGH anime is overated ? i ask Because you said that there is plenty of anime you consided better .
Anonymous476875
about the remake won't it be a straight adaptation from the manga remake by the artist that made shiki ?
Anonymous476875
AidanAK47 personally i really loved legend of the galactic heroes and it is one of the anime that make one of the biggest impact on me. I found it the best "long" anime that i ever seen (more than 24 ep). But comparing it to anime with shorter format is a bit hard. you can make something that have perfect pacing in 1h30 but it is impossible with a 110 ep anime.
AidanAK47
Either way I am pretty certain that all other isn't crap to me now seeing as I have seen the so called pinnacle. In fact There are plenty of anime I consider better that LOGH.
AidanAK47
There are aspects of its story which wouldn't really work by today's standards.
AidanAK47
And I did it. I watched legend of the galactic heroes. I have slain the white whale of anime. It certainly was interesting to say the least but I think the remake coming is going to have trouble. I am in between giving it a 8 or a 9 but it's clear that LOGH is very much a product of its time.
Kaiser Eoghan
I didn't really care for this weeks flipflappers, the fanservice and also it was even more trigger than I could take.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Gavin@Mario: I'll get round to your name someday but I think this might be my last chance with shinkai.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: That disgaea review made me nostalgic because I remember my friends and I playing it back when it first came out. We found it difficult but were amused by it/liked the characters.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Are the manga posts exclusively for series with only a few chapters translated or series that came out in the past year or so? I've been reading gunka no balthazar and enjoying it enough and think it should get recommendation out there.
Topgavin
Just booked tickets to go see it on Sunday with my little sister. Was surprisingly reluctant but I know she'll like it, I've already seen it but pumped either way.
SuperMario
Your name movie has been showed theatrically here in Aus, I'm planning to rewatch it soon in theatre and then do a review on it. Is that alright with other admins?
SuperMario
so I guess the top 6 will advance to the final are: Otabek Altin (Kazakhstan), Giacometti (Switzerland), Yuri, Yurio, JJ and Phichit? Will be very cool final event haha
SuperMario
At the very least Yuri on Ice shows me how entertaining ice skating can be
SuperMario
@K-Off: have a good trip ahead K-Off. Well, it's still better than Japan (earthquake) I guess
K-Off
Well, heading to Korea tomorrow. What a time to go. In the middle of Korea's biggest financial scandal since the 80s.
Lenlo
Is it just me, or does the Yuri on Ice opening get more colorful and detailed every week?
SuperMario
Badesh, if you like to check out their other songs, give "Tunnels of Love" and "Romeo & Juliet" a listen. Though I just discovered Telegraph Road quite recently, those 2 songs are qmong my all time favorite
SuperMario
I prefer their ealier version when the band was still together (aLCHEMY 1983), but that Rome 2005 was magnificent too. Seriously with this band diifferent live versions feel like another experience... And that song is criminally under-heard in radio too, because of its running time. A crying shame
Badesh
uhh, found it in better quality. now, THAT is a fitting present for my dad :)
Badesh
well that commentator, that sounds like he's in a soccer match, will get on my nerves though...
Badesh
if you're talking about the rome 2005 version... hell, that's some sweet music. i'll inhale that for the rest of the evening, thanks for that
SuperMario
Anyone here listen to Dire Straits? I just in the mood for their music lately. Checked out the band playing Telegraph Road live the other day on youtube and I was completely stunned.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: I considered Flip Flappers 3,5,6 to be its best so far so continue on to see if Flip Flappers is your cup of tea or not
SuperMario
For me I have a lot of stuffs to catch up on this time a year, both in terms of anime and in my RL. Time goes fast as hell
Lenlo
Started watching Flip Flappers. Thought I had it figured out, then we got Mad Max going on. I may start liking it more, cause the first 2 eps didnt do much
Lenlo
Its also nearing Thanksgiving in the states and end of semester for University, so those sorts will be busier than usual.
AidanAK47
You are far too young to be reminiscing. You can build a place for a community but you can't force one to come. I for one would think it would be easier to form one if people stopped using the Anon tag. You can change your name with the customize button you know.
Anonymous469664
I remember a time when people other than site admins were regular posters. Those were the days...
AidanAK47
But I suppose watching Westworld isn't exactly a waste of time.
AidanAK47
Downside is that I really don't have a lot of time these days. It's rather annoying. The day goes by and it doesn't really feel like you did anything.
AidanAK47
On the upside, I am nearly finished Legend of the galactic heroes. So when the Remake airs next year I will have a lot to say about it.
AidanAK47
Personally I have been rather busy lately and wanted to finish off a few things. Hence why my posts have been getting later.
AidanAK47
Anyway when there's nothing on the chat box to talk about then of course it dries up.
AidanAK47
You have unfortunate timing.
Anonymous469664
All the chat regulars have left house as well.
Anonymous469664
Four days since a single post.
K-Off
Damn, I don't know if it's the layout/algorithm/mods, but so many subreddits that I used to frequent have gotten watered down as hell. Between the influx of shills and changes to the upvote/downvote system (which doesn't properly convey controversial comments anymore, like 45 upvotes to 47 downvotes. Now it shows only a -2) it's hard to find reasonable debates or find important info
SuperMario
@K-off: and for that book the last time I checked it was $110 for you guys who live US plus free shipping. For us it's $150 not incluing the postage and few weeks delivery.
K-Off
Damn, I didn't realize that it could be that bad elsewhere. The worst experience I had was when I ordered a laser pointer from Switzerland over a forum, and the cunt didn't respond for nearly 4 weeks until I threatened to refund my $250 on PayPal.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Europe. That's the difference.
SuperMario
@Aidan: yeah I got a dispatch notice saying it's shipping now. I ordered it back in September as well so I don't know why the difference between us.
Kaiser Eoghan
I remember the days where I used to be relying on waiting for anime dvds to come out locally , looking back they were really overpriced, 35 euro for 4 or 5 episodes.
Kaiser Eoghan
My opinion on FMA alchemist ended up being all over the place because I must have watched 3 episodes every few months of it, then I stopped watching it for a year, got back into it for a few months, abandoned it for months then marathoned 20 episodes in one night to get it finished.
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