Posted by psgels on 29 September 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews, Blood-C




Blood-C is a very difficult series to recommend. The thing is that this is one series where if you like it, you’ll like it a lot. However, if you dislike it, you’ll grow a deep seated hate against the main cast of this show. I belong in the camp of the former (hence the high rating for this review), but I do want to give out a warning, because this is a rather hard series to get into.

For starters, at heart Blood-C is a mystery horror series, with a high emphasis on building up and atmosphere. It has the building up pacing of a Bee-Train series, but differs completely in the characterization department. What this means in practice is that the entire first half will be spent on nothing but very mundane daily life, intermixed with various battles and action scenes, with very few hints towards the overall storyline. The characters all are very mundane and by far the weirdest part is that this show for a long period of time hardly ever tries to give them some depth. Instead, they’re just like the random people you might run into in a class room or on the street. Oh, and the characters have strange tendencies to make weird decisions at times.

Now, I refuse to spoil the exact how and why of things, but the second half is where this series really shines, and slowly begins to uncover its mysteries. Its plot is so constructed that as a viewer, you can be able to figure out what’s going on by yourself, but even then the final episodes in which everything is revealed pack a great punch and justify a lot of the weird things that happened throughout the series. If, at least, they didn’t get on your nerves too much. The thing is, that that is very easy, and as soon as this series loses your suspense of disbelief with it (which is rather easy with annoying characters), the atmosphere also stops being captivating, and you’ll be even more bored.

It does remain a wonderful atmosphere though. The creators make excellent use of the soundtrack handed to them, and the storytelling combines gory horror together with classical Japanese horror, which tries to capture its viewer through its slow storytelling. Especially the juxtaposition between the very mundane slice of life and the intense fights creates a wonderful tension that can be cut with a knife as the series goes on.

Also, the action scenes. Blood-C really sets itself apart through these things, and they are absolutely brutal and really well choreographed. Instead of the usual shortcuts, Saya is fully animated as she struggles with all sorts of blood thirsty monsters who make it a huge challenge to be actually beaten. The animation in the first number of episodes in particular is just absolutely wonderful, but even in the latter episodes as the budget dies down, the creators still aim to tell as much as possible through the action scenes with as much life-like animation as possible. The gore also is gore on a completely different level in this scene. It absolutely spares nobody. Usually when people die, the camera conveniently focuses on a different shot. Not here: here we can see all of details. Or at least, in the DVD versions we will.

There are a few acting problems here and there, and in particular the characterization has some major flaws in not trying hard enough to flesh out the cast, but overall I really liked this show for what it accomplished, and for the huge risks it took. This really isn’t for everyone. If you find yourself not able to get into the atmosphere because of the characters, then it’s very likely that you’re not going to enjoy this series. If you do however, you’re in for one heck of an intense ride.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Hard to get into, but excellent atmosphere, excellent sense of mystery and build-up and great plot twists.
Characters: 8/10 – Leaves things to be desired in the characterization department, but nevertheless an enjoyable cast that especially gets interesting near the end.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Absolutely wonderful animation and action scenes. Production IG really are un-matched when it comes to hand to hand combat.
Setting: 9/10 – A great concept, great ideas behind the whole story, and it’s great to see how many risks this show takes for the sake of its plot.

Suggestions:
Kurozuka
Gilgamesh

31 Responses

  1. Firechick says:

    Whoa! This is 12 episodes?! I thought it was gonna be 26!

  2. Rex says:

    I really hope they tie it in with the previous entires in the series, the first movie and maybe blood+. Though this seems to head more towards the first movie as its base story, the whole working for the american/japanese government. That story wasnt in blood+.

  3. pacifikix says:

    You’ve definitely got me curious now! Going to have to check this out. Nice review.

  4. brianwuzhere says:

    @Firechick, lol if this was 26 episodes…paced as slow as it was, a lot of people would’ve dropped this show a long time ago. That said, I’m one of the few who actually liked it, especially the finale.

  5. Kim says:

    I haven’t seen this so I have no opinions of my own.

    But your review is the first positive one I saw for this show. Everyone else seems really disappointing. But it’s interesting to read a counter opinion.

  6. Darth_Malleus says:

    I’m one of those people who were, I’ll admit it, horrified by the death and gore of this story. I consider that I can take a level of violence, but this was several levels past my limit. The plot almost had me bored out of my skin, then the second half kicked off. I was taken in by the disbelief but stayed for the plot twists and the WTF moments. That was what made this story unique, I beleive.

  7. Joojoobees says:

    “with very few hints towards the overall storyline”

    I think this is the remarkable thing about Blood-C: the storyline IS the mystery. That might sound dumb to those who haven’t watched it, but this show is unusual. Even in a mystery you know WHAT the mystery is, you know whether you are looking for the murderer, or the antidote for the poison, or whatever. In Blood-C the mystery is itself a mystery. You are forced to look for clues (and they are there), but you aren’t told what the mystery is, and this left some viewers to dismiss the series as having nothing going on. There is a mystery, but it is being kept a secret from you.

    I was very impressed, and this has me psyched up to watch the movie as well.

  8. lubu says:

    Pretty sure I posted on here after the third or fourth episode that I was frustrated with the series. I did end up completing it, although it’s left a sour taste in my mouth.

    I felt like the logic for the antagonists goal was very, very weak. I won’t post spoilers, but when you get to the exposition, you’ll know what I’m talking about.

    Amazingly good action sequences though. I just feel like the pacing was poor, the mystery wasn’t one. This series was one director away from greatness.

  9. lubu says:

    Pretty sure I posted on here after the third or fourth episode that I was frustrated with the series. I did end up completing it, although it’s left a sour taste in my mouth.

    I felt like the logic for the antagonists goal was very, very weak. I won’t post spoilers, but when you get to the exposition, you’ll know what I’m talking about.

    Amazingly good action sequences though. I just feel like the pacing was poor, the mystery wasn’t one. This series was one director away from greatness.

  10. Snowolf says:

    You all know how much I loved this show. Probably makes it way to my top 25 favorites of all time.

    Thanks so much for blogging and loving it psgels, when most folks couldn’t. It’s been a pleasure! :) (Personally I would have given it between a 87-92 out of 100 but then again, my ratings have never strayed far from yours, so.)

  11. Gell says:

    OH YEAH man this series is beyond awesome!
    So elegant an exploration of so many themes, like moe slice of life shows, for one, and and, so so many things. I mean, people dislike this because of ADD every episode was ultra moody and the violence is so cathartic and i´s just so karmic and tragic and terrifying. The idea of finding-losing yourself within a narrative, within a history, the dynamics of power in this world (with the powerfull lines spoken by the elder bairns during the series)
    The sort of incestious tension between Saya and her “father” resulting in one of the most violent and powerful animated duels in recent memory…
    It really reminds me of twin peaks, it´s particularily beautiful how they integrated the coffee-guimauve consumption lol.
    Saya, like Odin, has to lose an eye to gain greater awareness (althought she should be able to regenerate it I mean, she lost half her head-brains!)
    Anyway, as always, Japan keep the cool coming, fuck the haters, do it for the love of it, as always, godspeed.

    AND THE MOVIE !!!
    LOL THE MOVIE!!!

  12. Obsidian says:

    First @gell dude chill man there are good reason why people had hated the anime initially.

    Now me and psgels agree here — this series had a phenomenal ending and I mean extremely cool.

    Most of the characters weren’t the same but I think most of us kinda expected that.
    \
    The second part of this series was extremely good and yeah some of the deaths even made me cringe but was excellently handled.

    Overall, this series gets a 3.5/5 for me for having a good storyline and action at the end.

  13. Gell says:

    just think about it this way: How many shows with this structure-content-themes do you know of?
    There will always be another moe sliceoflife thing or shounen adventure. And that´s great but jewels like this come only once a year at the most.
    I remember being really intrigued by sequences like int the first episode, when Saya sings while going to school. It just feels so fucking ominous, I don´t know, as I said, you just don´t see things like this all the time. If you think about it the show is super deep, super deep. Like, meta stuff. It´s always the case with stories where people put on an act, as in, the end of the show being the end of the lie (there was a similar thing in eva 2.22 with shinji at the end, as an avatar of the director, transcends (or at leasts tries to) the narrative that is evangelion (evangelion the series as well as the world inside the series)
    Authors have been trying to incorporate this meta-level into everything now because we, as postmodern consumers feel pretty claustrophobic “normal” stories. Among the many “stories about stories” in anime recently blood-c is one of the most potent.
    ALSO
    GORE MAN, PORNOGRAPHIC LEVELS OF GORE

    What more could one ask for?

  14. MAruu says:

    huhu why it has only 12epi? anyways its really good anime :)

  15. Lloyd says:

    I honestly do not think I could be more excited about an anime movie than I am about this one.

    And I loved Steins;gate.

  16. Mormegil says:

    Kubo wrote the plot to this anime. That’s the only explanation. TROLOLOLOLOLOL sums everything up perfectly.

    I laughed throughout the entire show. Really.

  17. Whisperer says:

    I loved Shiki and Gilgamesh. They are shows I’d watch again if I had the time. Maybe I’ll just watch this Kurozuka thing instead.

    As for Blood-C, not really willing to see if the s**tstorm is warranted. Never did like the Blood franchise, and Clamp ruins every good premise with its preference for (looooong limbs and) crossovers.

  18. Bree says:

    @Gell “How many shows with this structure-content-themes do you know of?”

    Madoka comes to mind.

  19. Nic says:

    Wow! Seriously, you recommend Shiki next to this freaking trainwreck? I honestly don’t understand what you see in this show, especially when you’ve openly criticized other shows that were remarkably similar in their lack of coherent writing.

    I mean, I watched this series for one reason alone: The fights. They fight sequences were incredible and quite intense. And that’s what sold that series to me. Everything else was a complete failure.

    The root of the problem is that those characters are as bland as a cardboard box and we’re supposed to care for them somehow. Any series with such boring characters and whose “subtle hints” are so subtle you could guess the big twist after 4-5 episodes is bound to end up in failure. Anyone who didn’t realize it by then is flat out daft.

    They dragged the show with bland characters and the brutality wore off at the half-way point for me because quite frankly, I didn’t care anymore. It was violence to the point of being masturbatory, completely gratuitous. Fight-slaughter-rinse-repeat for 12 episodes. And then it dropped 90% of the story development in the last 2 episodes. The mark of shabby writing.

    Let me be blunt, I consider this a 6/10 series but if it wasn’t for its technical prowess with the fights, this would go as low as 3/10 for me. A complete disaster from beginning to end. I just can’t see how anyone can take that story seriously considering its godawful execution.

    Even the last episode, which was probably the best, added a bunch of pointless brutal violence when you’ve been desensitized to it 6 episodes ago. They used slaughter to fill the void that its boring story couldn’t fill.

    And yet, I somehow want to see that movie to see her revenge because her character seems slightly more interesting and I don’t want to have watched 12 episodes of this crap without having seen the ending. Whoever directed the show ought to be fired.

    • braintree says:

      Apologies for replying to such an old comment, but I’d recently gotten around to watching this show and wanted to see what psgels thought of it.

      I’ll start by saying that I disagree with pretty much everything you’ve said about the series, but tastes differ, so hey. I wanted to ask, though, about your thoughts on the foreshadowing.

      …”subtle hints” are so subtle you could guess the big twist after 4-5 episodes…Anyone who didn’t realize it by then is flat out daft.”

      I was wondering which part of the ‘big twist’ you were referring to, (or perhaps even all of it?) As for myself, the chain of events starting at the end of episode ten completely caught me off guard, throwing everything I’d thought about the series for a loop. Now, I don’t mind it if I’m considered daft by your standards, but I’m very much curious as to what gave everything away so quickly for you.

      I mean, in episode two, I thought that the ‘thing guimauve tastes/feels like’ was likely flesh or blood, since Saya’s inhumanity was fairly obvious. A few episodes later, I guessed that the blood was her father’s, and maybe that’d go partway to explaining why she seems to adore him a little excessively. Did I have any idea that her dad was a monster, or that Saya couldn’t drink human blood? Not a clue.

      Same with the ‘uncanniness’ of the town. Around episode four, I started to wonder why people weren’t more freaked out about the disappearances, and why there was only one of everything. When I watched five, I assumed the town had made some ancient pact with the monsters, like a secret lottery to determine who’d be sent out and be eaten. The whole thing about ‘breaking the covenant’ and ‘Shrovetide’? I assumed that for whatever reason, Tadayoshi and Fumito were the only adults in town who were still hostile to the idea of letting people die and were using Saya (a vampire they’d somehow defeated and ‘sealed’ into that oft-mentionned ‘promise’) to try and fight back against the status quo. That and maybe a dozen other theories flashed through my head during the two days it took me to finish Blood-C, but when the big reveal actually came, I was shocked.

      When Fumito declared that the entire town is made up of actors and/or people recruited to live there? And that he gave some people charms that somehow kept them alive despite being turned into paste*? Blew my mind.

      So…I’m not sure how flippant I may sound, but I’d honestly like to go back sometime and see what kind of hints there were about all of those things. I’m not exactly the most observant person, and it’d probably help me a hell of a lot to understand as a whole just what went on.

      *I will admit, that part was ridiculous. All but one of the ‘main cast’ who ‘came back from the dead’ had been turned to near pulp right in front of our eyes, and then they’re suddenly strolling around unhurt? At first I thought, maybe the twins and such aren’t human (hence that one odd sequence where it seems like Nene’s purposefully using her shadow to massacre the entire shopping district), but when the ‘main cast’ didn’t have their charms and died from equal/lesser mutilation, I did raise an eyebrow.

  20. Obsidian says:

    @ Gell inspired me with the postmodernist mention though gratuitous gore doesn’t always play well.

    The show’s movie seems promosing

  21. KittiChan1 says:

    I have to say this serie is by far the bloodiest of all anime I’ve seen. There were way too many death though it was understandable. It was still kinda hard too watch. Sometimes I was about to throw up and sometimes I couldn’t take my eyes off the screen. The ending wasn’t really sastisfying. But I gonna watch the movie anyway, so I can expect at least some answers. The future is gonna be red “bloody red”^^. When’s the movie coming out again?

  22. Anca says:

    I don’t think you need suspension of disbelief to watch this; maybe a hint of lack of cynicism about series… I found it pretty obvious right from the start that the town was Not Right. My first thought when I saw Saya’s classmates was ‘Those twins are creepy’, ‘There’s no way that girl is in highschool’ and ‘what is up with those blood colored uniforms?’. And those pink cakes – my thought was ‘that’s made with blood’ but I still felt sick when it turned out to be worse. And Saya… I was waiting for some big reveal. And the series didn’t disappoint.

    I’ve read a lot of CLAMP series, and this was perfectly in line, though I think it was grimdarkest since Tokyo Babylon.

  23. Gintoki says:

    YES. I finally had the time to marathon the remaining 7 episodes!
    The last 2 episodes were brilliant, and totally made the earlier episodes make a lot more sense(they felt two-dimensional because it was all an act- they wanted to keep Saya in a perfect and happy world after all. Otherwise though, the first 10 episodes were kind of a chore to sit through. Actually, I think they could have cut this series in half and add more post-“idyllic world” plot. I pretty much tolerated it all just to get to the magnificent ending, although I do have to admit there was one more highlight to the series other than the conclusion:the gore. The bloody action scenes were both gruesome and thrilling to watch. If it wasnt for those scenes I would’ve dropped this series without a second thought, and I;m not such a big fan of gore either…unless its done well. :)
    Also, is anyone hoping that Watanuki’s going to make an appearance? I’m REAAALLY hoping he’s the dog even though I’m sick of CLAMP crossovers…
    Also, about the flimsy and improbable reason to the antagonist’s actions: If he’s got the resources and money to burn, why not? When your an evil genius, you don’t really have to care about the implications I guess. He gets to do whatever he wants because he CAN.

    @Mormegil:HAHAHAHA…yeah, Kubo goes by another name during his free time: CLAMP. DUH. I shoud’ve known.After all, they are both the masters of trolling(darn it,the ending of TRC and xxxHoliiiiicccc!!)

  24. Gintoki says:

    Sorry, I meant does anyone one hope Watanuki is going to make an appearance in the MOVIE. :)
    *I meant you’re not your argh.
    **Forgive me for saying also twice. Thats just bad writing. Sometimes I wish I could just reedit my posts.

  25. AG3333 says:

    Checked out the start if this series (I plan to watch it soon)
    I think most of the negative reviews comes from the fact that this Blood is very different from the previous Blood adaptations.

    I’m guessing this series might have rated higher if it was called something else.

  26. Will says:

    And what do you know, I actually came to love the series for its awkwardness and plain story line (blood bath).

  27. braintree says:

    Honestly? I loved this series. Would probably give it more of an 85-87, and I can’t wait for the film to come out.

  28. ncky says:

    Thank you for writing a review about this series, it was an awesome ride!! This is really the reason why I watch anime!

    Blood-C reminds me of the horror movie ‘Cabin in the woods’! Nothing seems like it is and also all that blood and gore.. I’m curious about the Blood-C movie, gonna watch it asap!

  29. Arno says:

    The interesting part was the slow unraveling mystery. The less, much less interesting part was the totally ridiculous monsters.

    The gore part was intense, certainly, but you could also suspect that this is the kind of thing you add when you know there is not much in your story.

  30. Dissapointment says:

    the best part of the anime to me probably the last episode , but the rest really are not so interesting to me , 1-10 episode just like a repetitive side-quest with a little bit differences there , what i only care about is the dog , her pop and one of her classmate i have forgotten his name already , their death scenes are something and the rest just sucks , where is the promising mysteries i can’t find it even after i watched the movie of this anime , the story is just too shallow where 0 mystery found unlike the pandora hearts ._.

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Kaiser-Eoghan
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KTravlos
A point on the chibi in AMB. I was thinking about shows were the chibi did not bother me, and Hellsing Ultimate and Drifters (newest episodes coming out), both had deformed/chibi segments. For some reason they did not bother me. I think ABM directors have bad timing with them.
KTravlos
I have to say Ichirou Inuyashiki is very cool. Like he is really a cool character. Also I am saddened to say it but watching AMB together with Inuyashuki does not work well for AMB
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Silver: There are sad moments certainly but plenty of humour.
Anonymous1639132
Man, I sure hope Ichirou Inuyashiki and Hiro Shishigami make out, everything is just building up to that
silver
I actually have only watched one or two episodes of this season of 3-gatsu, but its rising scores and rave reviews are making me really excited! I've only put it off because it's somewhat emotionally tiring for me
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@Kaiser: Well, after the first season of 3-gatsu ended, I did skim ahead to this bullying arc so I already know this is going to be powerful, yet the anime still wow me over and over
Anonymous1637770
Also it can be tricky selecting a season sequel since some old series had like 50 to 100 episodes, what counted as a season then?
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@Kaiser-Eoghan - It's more common in videogames (especially Capcom) than in other mediums. Megaman 2, RE 2, Street Fighter 2, Dino Crisis 2, Marvel vs. Capcom 2, etc.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually in a rarity, a sequel season is better than the first.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Which makes my enjoyment of sangatsu so strange.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I generally do not like game/sports orientated shows.
Kaiser-Eoghan
That you slightlySuper-erMario and superwooper!
Kaiser-Eoghan
And my reaction to the show is such, that I enjoyed it enough to make such a huge pot about it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
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At this point it feels as if by the end of the series I’ll come off it thinking that I don’t want to say goodbye to these characters.
I don’t think as of just yet it complete lives up to honey and clovers legacy though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I never cared about Harunobu initially, but recent episodes have changed this.
Dull parts of the manga are easier to get through for me in the anime due to Shaft elevating the material with one of the better uses of their visual gimmicks.
Giving the series another chance, even though I won’t fully embrace the humour, it does now and then manage to make me laugh a little.
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The bullying arc centering on Hina and the shows treatment of it is better than most anime bullying stories and has provided the most emotionally rewarding aspect of the show.
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Kaiser-Eoghan
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The blood of the innocent will flow without end, mmmmmm this is why I love Inuyashiki
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Mmmmmm the suffering of all those innocent people feeding his God boner, this is why I love Inuyashiki
Lenlo
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SuperMario
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Kaiser-Eoghan
*on Europa cinema
Kaiser-Eoghan
Nanoha new film to screen next February in the US, come in Europa license it for over here dammit....
Kaiser-Eoghan
Did have some down moments though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And I guess contrasting Luke with his old self goes some way.
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@Niel, I do agree that it's annoying to see people complain about animation when they clearly have no idea what they are talking about. Like those inbetween frame screenshot people. But I will say I appreciate on model characters more so than chaotic movement. When the off model stuff suits the tone of the scene like that blade runner part, then it's fine.
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niel
It just depends on what works best in given scene and the aesthetic they want to go for. People can complain all they want about off-model stuff, but if they really only want that the they won't be getting nearly as much of those impactful scenes as there are now. So many of the ways people complain about it is really irking to me.
niel
normal/low action scenes is different from being on-model during the action sequences and just the ones that need some extra impact in general. https://youtu.be/rrZk9sSgRyQ?t=6m45s
niel
But that depends on the situation though. And I'd argue that being consistent and on-model during
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter/Niello/Mario: Ideally I want it both ways, fluid animation AND consistent model visuals, all the while never sacrificing choreography.
SuperMario
But really, who am I to say. I'm the dude who prefer beautiful shot composition myself
SuperMario
The same can be said with Shinkai's movies since he always prefers static, beautiful shot that people tend to overlook that his animation is quite poorly handled
Vonter
You're right, but art direction does alleviate limited animation, I mean the old Berserk anime, kinda has a lot of slideshow moments. MahoYome has nice backgrounds, and despite the samey faces, at the very least doesn't come from the same mold as other series. Still cutting corners with chibi segments is was a mistake.
SuperWooper
Is it any wonder that people prefer things to be static/on-model? They want to see characters who look consistent and familiar so they can relate to them.
Nie
MahoYome being the biggest offender of people getting triggered to any kind of statement about the show's animation not being good. And it's absurd because the show's animation really isn't great at all. It's good with distracting people with pretty pictures, but animation-wise it's still mediocre.
Nie
@SuperMario: Not much. Just stuff like "Art is part of the animation weather it's beautiful backgrounds or just amazing looking characters. It's not all about how they move. If it was, CG would be considered great animation" multiple times. I've just been finding myself being replied with these kinds of comment non-stop since the start of the season.
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@Niello: What happened exactly, if you don't me asking?
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Niello
So with Fate Apocrypha episode 22 out, I'm just now learning that people think webgen style is horrible and they prefer static scenes with pretty visual over actual quality animation. WTF. I can't comprehend this. Are casual people who watch animation in general really that oblivious to the art they have been watching?
Lenlo
Berserks Dynasty Warriors style game looked better. Also, Mahoutsukai should be up tonight/tomorrow. Turns out, Christmas is a busy time of year at this job.
Amagi
*worse
Amagi
Especially when you consider how good CGI can be by now, look at Houseki or Kado. But Berserk was the worst thing I saw in years, many scenes felt worst than sequences of PSX games
Amagi
@SuperMario: Same. I love Kon and also consider Paprika's OST as the best. @Lenlo: Me too. I honestly even enjoyed the movies but the new series was atrocious
Lenlo
HIRASAWAAAA! HAAAAAI YOOOOO.
I miss the 90s Berserk.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was also quite fond of his soundtracks for Berserk. AIIIIIYE FORCES : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkYYYew8CUI
SuperMario
@Amagi: I'm a big fan of Kon so I've watched everything from his. Even bought a book about his works. About the soundtrack, I listened to them as well but not regularly, compare to pprika OST which I downloaded and listen to a lot
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although not completely a manga, Usagi yojimbo also has an anthro character.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Millennium actress is partially inspired by the actress Setsuko Hara.
Amagi
@Kaiser-Eoghan: The anthro-animal manga is even a topseller as far as I know. Haven't looked into it yet, though. Maybe I will do so.
Amagi
Speaking of it, I am still hoping Dream Machine will happen some day. Kon died believing it would happen
Amagi
@SuperMario: Have you tried the other Kon movies like Millennium Actress once? Thought they were really good and Hirasawa is responsible for the OST there too. Or Paranoia Agent which was (IMO) very good as well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nttSKBJ38k (OP)
Niello
Eoghan: Enjoy... ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't read this, its very strange to see a manga about full anthro animal characters: http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Beastars
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: So based on that I will try devil lady. Thanks.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Vonter: That'd be me who made that post. I thought dororon enma-kun was wonderfully ridiculous and Devilman gorishly entertaining, Shin Mazinger Z was probably some of the most fun I had with an anime, but violence jack took it way too far though so I guess I'm aquainted with nagai's work
Vonter
I don't remember who was looking for something noir in anime. I was looking among several series from Go Nagai. And watched some Devil Lady. I don't remember if noir is exclusively detective stories, but this anime, has those high contrast shadows, eerie music and is shot like some japanese horror movies I've seen. I don't know if it changes along the road but so far it's very suspenseful.
SuperMario
I only know him through his works in Berserk and Paprika but his music never fails to amaze me
Anonymous1626471
@Amagi: Ghost Bridge is my favourite. I just find it very calming. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeh5aJsxlbw
Amagi
Susumu Hirasawa is one of my favorite musicians/composers. I don't even know what kind of subgenre this is. There aren't any other music groups I know who do similar stuff
Nielllo
@Mario, Already saw that video before.
SuperMario
Check this out... I don't even know what the freaking instrument he's playing, but it's spellbound https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjalQjAomH0
Niello
Just when I thought Houseki no Kuni took the prize for best animation I was treated with Apocrypha. This week is amazing.
Niello
Big name animators all over. They really threw everything they've got here.
Niello
Woooooah! OMG Apocrypha ep 22 animation is sick! So that's why the animation in the first half of the show is so lackluster and basically just darn awful.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its not entirely odd to bring up Heydrich in relation to the occult either, apparently he was said to be part of some whackjob order.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm, that girl from Dies irae, Anna Schwegln is aptly named, also shares her name with the last executed person for witchcraft, who was Bavarian German, which i'm told by an Austrian friend were particular right-est leaning politically.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Of course unfortunately its often the opposite that happens, nothing is worse than an ending that ruins everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, how I love being surprised by something. That feeling where you''re watching something shakily held together, simply okay or good, then suddenly in the second half or last stretch your score of it goes massively up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I can kind of understand the wanting to go home and watch something easy mentality instead of challenging but even though I'm guilty of escapism, I'm tired somewhat of "sillier" stuff, its often enjoyable but its get overly reptitive and I wish I could find more philosophical/political/imaginative things.
Amagi
Yeah the show is great because of its theme, the setting and chemistry girls have as well as their (lack of) knowledge about basic human things. Each episode thematizes this in a different way but there isn't much you can talk or say about it when you already explained the topic in detail.
SuperMario
On the other hand, I don't have much to talk about Girls' Last Tour this week. It's still good, but with this episode I feel that I'm running out of concrete thig to say about the show
SuperMario
Haha both Houseki and 3-gatsu have a good showing this week. I have a lot of things to talk about Houseki in particular
Amagi
This week's Houseki is jurassic park
Amagi
*-ati - I think Netflix and so are at least giving a few new impulses which isn't too bad. I don't think the typical anime series will disappear because of that.
Amagi
At least in comparisation
Amagi
I think it's just sad how often I see wonderful series selling 500 BD/DVD or maybe even less. Most series don't sell more than 1500 or so and the rest is usually at ~3000-5000 which is still pretty low.
Amagi
Yeah, it's one of my pro-Netflix arguments as well. Another problem is that anime (not counting manga) only make money through dvd/bd sales since they air at night, whereas Netflix or daytime tv series don't depend on the latter so much and since anime BDs are so expensive the only ones who buy them are the more extreme fans.
AidanAK47
Might be in part due to the workaholic nature of their society that makes escapist fantasy and empty entertainment more appealing than usual. Ultimately these are the people anime is made for so opening up the markets gives more deserving shows a fighting chance.
Though that isn't to say that western taste is perfect either.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, That's part of the reason I think some westernation might be a good thing as from what I seen the Japanese have truly terrible taste in anime. Sales charts from Japan just make me shake my head.
Amagi
God, the preorder anime lists are atricious. The only one that seems to sell acceptable (around 6k) is Mahoyome. Series like Inuyashiki have 80 pre-orders so far, Shuumatsu Shoujo 977. Idol shows sell good of course, including that male/bishounen Idolmaster
AidanAK47
@Anon, I read it but kinda fell out due to it's releases being slow.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Actually if you check the manga recommendations section, you'll see there is a post about it here.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Yes, it was interesting to follow a story that dealt with a characters homosexuallity that was outside of the yaoi/yuri mould.
Anonymous1620968
Out of curiosity, has anyone on here read Shimanami Tasogare?
Niello
Where are we up to with Inuyashiki?
Lenlo
Well alright then. Episode 9 out of 11 and that happens. Was not expecting that
Lenlo
Ooo something happen this week? Im about to watch it
Kaiser-Eoghan
It feels just as rushed and awkward in the manga.
Amagi
I noticed this too
AidanAK47
Inuyashiki has balls of steel to pull that in this particular episode number.
Nielllo
Finally got around to reading Helck, and it looks like it's going to go into that pile of good-shounen-that-won't-ever-get-animated right alongside Psyren.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Imagine trying to buy the dvds of the show in public.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Gentle remind that the prism ilya movie is out and subbed.
AidanAK47
Still surprised the second and third seasons got dubbed.
AidanAK47
@Angel, I replied to one of your comments before but the rundown is no official word yet but maybe next year.
Angel
Or no? Someone please tell me!!
Angel
Going to happen?
Angel
Is fate/kaleid liner prisma☆illya 3rei dub
Amagi
I dislike it when manga bait me into reading due to the first chapter and end up being some very generic stuff afterwards. Nobody stays for B if he started something for A, authours should expect that.
Lenlo
Really, Juuni should stick with the 3D. That fight in ep 9 looked pretty good. 3D is clearly what they are good at
AidanAK47
@Niello, It's not Chatango. It's a plugin for wordpress called Wisechat.
SuperMario
@Niello: yeah, Juuni caught me off guard this week. The production of Juuni is unfortunately shaky, but well, strong writing can save the day
Niello
Btw is this chat still Chatango?
Niello
This week episode of Juini is surprisingly good compared to how the show usually is with its backstory. Although the part where Ox tries to explain to Tiger could definitely use some visual buff.
SuperWooper
in the future*
SuperWooper
Pretty cool that Juuni Taisen had that kind of emotional heft this week, though. Might be one of the 2017 shows I sample the in the future.
SuperWooper
I think the occasional comments with an episode title and nothing more come from people who mistake the shoutbox for a search bar.
SuperMario
@Anon1614688: juuni taisen... made me tearing up this week. Honestly didn't expect that. Damn you, Tiger
Anonymous1614688
juuni taisen
Amagi
Had some complaints regarding Children of Whales but the latest two episodes were pretty good.
Amagi
@Anon: You explained it better than me.
Anonymous1614307
Kaiser: I actually have the exact same opinion of Natsume and Mushishi. Both are excellent, but Natsume just does a great job with a small core cast and a very simple premise
Anonymous1614456
who likes naruto
Kaiser-Eoghan
Mushishi does have good stories, but it was always a manga I'd dip in and out of, on and off for years, never marathoning it, wheras Natsume was easier to read several chapters of in one go.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its because Natsume has more pathos.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*more than
Natsume weirdly ended up becoming this comfort manga for me with a higher consistency rate .
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will state that I hold the terrible opinion that I like Natsume Yujinchou than Mushishi but at the same time completely recognize that Mushishi is probably the more ambitious, better show.
Niello
So it becomes a cycle of "this is an interesting set up" (except that the new Kino isn't even good at that) and then they fucked up or Kino/Shizu fucked them up even more, then move on. Without the emphasis on philosophical nature of the set up they present like in the original Kino, there really isn't that much point to it.
Niello
With the new Kino it's more about messing people up, occassionally observing and hardly ever improving. The anwsers or solutions to the problem they present is never really talked about in a rational way.
SuperMario
@Anon1614318: maybe you should give the old Kino a try. What I don't like most about the new version of Kino is that both Kino and the new guy are sketched as hero. The old Kino manages the tone right as well. There were some really dark tales and most of them thought-provoking. Can't say the same for say...Country of Cooking
Anonymous1614318
I don't know, it might be interesting to actually dig deep into the differences between episodic series with this kind of style to see what works and what doesn't.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's a matter of the chapter they chose to adapt were not really the better ones but the ones where the protagonist is more of an active role. Not totally against that, but it feels like the protagonist is just OP all the time. At least with Mushishi Ginko isn't able to save everyone all the time.
Anonymous1614318
I guess it's supposed to be more allegorical, but most of the time the allegory is not really meaningful enough. I thought it would be more along the lines of Mushishi, which is kind of similar in setup, but better in most other ways.
Anonymous1614318
What keeps me sticking around are some of the nice background arts and generally pleasant use of color, but admittedly most of the episodes aren't really engaging in a meaningful way. Most of the time its just Kino/Shizu show up, find out town's gimmick, then save the day. I prefer the episodes where the townspeople are more than just flat background characters.
Anonymous1614318
It's interesting to see how this new Kino season is being received from folks who've already watched the original. This is my first real exposure to Kino, and I kind of like it, but even without watching the original, I share many of the same complaints Aidan and most of the others have.
Amagi
I am also kinda sad he's just some 2* servant in fgo, but his power is special and he's physically weak, so it's understandable.
Amagi
And again, Shakespeare is just great but the character is, sadly, kinda wasted here considering how much screentime he has.
Amagi
@Aidan: Yes. Plus, maybe more characterization or background for some servants. The anime would have that time without Sieg and his romance sub plot.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, Those being remove Sieg and more Shakespeare?
Amagi
And man Apocrypha is pretty good but it would be twice as good if it had those two changes Aidan always mentions in the reviews..
Amagi
@Kaiser: I think the male in Kino was a mistake. Having two PoV sounds good, but he's basically just a male Kino, he even looks like her. Someone vastly different would have been way more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'd guarantee that sangatsu no lion would be high up, but FINALLY this weekend I'll be catching up.
Niello
@Kaiser, Ugh my phone gitched. What I meant to say was that background was unexpected. Now I see why you're enjoying CotW though.
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