Posted by psgels on 28 October 2011 with categories: Anime Reviews, Macross Frontier




Um… yeah. This movie…. I think I’ve just been trolled.

The first Macross Frontier Movie stayed very close to the TV-series, only in a much more streamlined version. It cut all of the unnecessary stuff that dragged out, and instead focused on the core of the series, which worked really well and I ended up really liking it (and this is coming from someone who was really annoyed by parts of the TV-series). The second movie is… different…

One of my problems with Macross Frontier was that some subplots took forever to get anywhere, and a lot of them were resorted rather half-heartedly, if at all. This movie isn’t like that. This movie wants to be exciting. This movie wants plot twists, and it delivers them no matter what.

It’s difficult to do this review without spoilers, but let’s just say that this movie wants to deliver plot twists a little too badly. Especially the second half shows this. The result is a story that has lots of twists and turns… that just don’t make any sense whatsoever. You are going to have to turn off your common sense if you want to be able to enjoy this. I did not, and was raging throughout half of them. This was in no way good storytelling! The creators just pulled whatever twist looked the coolest out of their ass, and completely disregarded narrative logic. And I’m not the strictest when it comes to not making sense, but what the creators pulled here was just deus ex machina after deus ex machina that only add to the style of this series, not the substance. Oh, and Shoji Kawamori shows his environmentalist side again. You know, the kind where the environmentalist messages are just shoved down your throat without any sense of subtlety.

*Ahem* when you do turn off logic, you’ll be rewarded by an utterly gorgeous movie. In particular the musical segments shine as ever. This is one part at which Macross Frontier has never disappointed, and this is o exception. The use of colours and camera angles shows how much budget and animation talent went into this. Both for the 2d animation as the CG as the backgrounds.

It IS a fun movie. Just don’t go into it expecting good drama, because the drama here is of soap opera quality.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Well, it’s fun and engaging. It’s at least a great action movie.
Characters: 7/10 – This movie does add things here and there to the characters, but I’m not sure whether they were good ones. The three leads do have extra charms compared to the TV-series… but there still are enough annoyances about them.
Production-Values: 9/10 – Not among THE best animated movies, but it has stunning visuals nonetheless. Gorgeous for movie standards, but loses points for reuse of soundtrack.
Setting: 7/10 – Makey no sensey. Also Kawamori’s environmentalist traits got old years ago.

Suggestions:
Redline
Rebuild of Evangelion 2.22: You Can Not Advance
Tailenders

16 Responses

  1. DmonHiro says:

    Does anyone else feel trolled?

  2. Anonomyous says:

    The movie was fine for me. Was expecting it to follow the series but it became obvious it was not going to do that with the spy business (which episode 1 already laid foundations for).

    Few headscratchers that might have reasons for it

    i) Why SMS was not arrested immediately (acceptable because SMS political power should be pretty high and at that time the Vajra was still not under control)

    ii) Why that rock could sustain hits that could take down captial ships (really no idea unless Wilder is such a incredibly skilled surfer to reduce the damage to minimum by sacrificing the edges)

    iii) Why the prisoners were so well behaved in Sheryl’s breakout (ok maybe they were fans)

    iv) Why the prison warden allowed the performance (looked like it was already on Ranka’s schedule or the warden is a big fan)

    v) Why was no one really bothered a prisoner accused of treason was allowed on stage (looked like the concert was open to the general audience or the audience simply assumed the warden okayed it)

    vi) How did Alto manage to speak so long with Ranka nd Sheryl when energy beams were already travelling towards him (maybe the effects of the queen)

    vii) Why did Ai-kun rescue Sheryl (acceptable because Sheryl’s fold wave power level was much closer to Ranka’s in the movie hence Ai-kun gettiing affected)

    viii) Why did Ai-kun have that bubble power (bit stretching here but the adult Vajra do have their shielding system and the ability to maintain life support during Ranka’s capture)

    ix) Why did Michel not die? Given that this will be like DYRL in Macross canon, the best answer for this and all others, is that its a movie about Macross Frontier (hence the NUNS and SMS backup arriving when it would not make sense at all but serves to make the 2 look good)

  3. Alael says:

    For anyone who has watched the TV series, you know exactly what you were getting with these movies – non-stop action and superb visuals. I know they won’t get any prizes for their scripts, but watching them is an experience on its own. The graphics are perfect, just as the audio. Really, this is demo disc material.

  4. Akari Mizunashi says:

    what Alael said; feel like people are barking up the wrong tree a lot of the time.

    this was just visual and auditory bliss. if you want something with a little bit more substance -> then watch the TV series; if you want something with a lot more substance -> then watch a different show; if you want something masterfully written -> there exists media beyond anime…people seem to forget this.

  5. cody says:

    eh I think you just need to take it as it comes. Think of Drive. That film is pretty good. IMO a bit “douchey”, but the style, setting, and music all come together to make a dream-like ultra-violent surreal experience.

    Anime can do the same things. It’s not always about story!

  6. Kim says:

    Hmm I actually found this movie to be an improvement in many ways from the TV series; especially in the development & characterization of Alto’s character.

    In the TV series I never could understand what Ranka & Sheryl saw in him. I didn’t have that problem here as he became a much more admirable character to me.

    And while I kind of liked the OT3 ending of the TV series I was fine with Alto’s decision in the movie because I felt there was enough development for it (I wasn’t heavily rooting for either girl).

    Overall one of the rare cases for me where the movie improves upon the TV series (except in the case of Brera’s character which is a shame).

    The first movie was fine but I didn’t see that it was any better or worse than the TV series so I rated them the same. The second movie I rated slightly higher than the TV series.

  7. ender650 says:

    I wasn’t a huge fan of the series, but I still went to see it simply to see really good animation, action, and music. It didn’t disappoint with any of those, but that’s really all the movie has going for it. The plot is paper thin and has numerous holes, I still don’t really think the macross plot is interesting, and the pacing is really off. Overall, it was fun to watch but probably the worst anime film I’ve seen this year.

  8. tk007 says:

    Overall, the animation and action are gorgeous. I’m also happy that the love triangle is finally being resolved. However, all the new songs are pretty forgettable IMO.

  9. Unentschieden says:

    Despite every flaw the movie has it has the best answer to the “who is he gonna end up with?” question: The mature star or the innocent upstart? neither, he performs a kabuki show for the titanic alien queen and the elopes with her.

  10. Middi says:

    Ugh, Alto confessed his love to Sheryl, which sucks. In the end, they switched Ranka and Sheryl’s role, Ranka who was suppose to be special and the main character of the series ended up being compared to less than Sheryl with no specialness.

    But who cares, i’m a fan of Ranka so i’ll just have to say that Alto was such a girl, Sheryl was such a guy, and it’s why they paired those two up. Hopefully Ranka will find someone cooler if they ever make a continuation :]

  11. Jeff says:

    Movie is gorgeous, but what’s up with the faces? It’s even worse than the show, which was worse than most ‘endless’ shows like naruto…

  12. AidanAK47 says:

    “this was just visual and auditory bliss. if you want something with a little bit more substance -> then watch the TV series; if you want something with a lot more substance -> then watch a different show; if you want something masterfully written -> there exists media beyond anime…people seem to forget this.”

    If you want something with visual and auditory bliss then make a music video. Not an anime. You know it helps if something is well written. I mean it’s not exactly a compliment to say that this show is all just flashy lights and nothing else. And there do exist anime that are masterfully written.

    As for this Movie it was going good for the first 40 minutes or so. I for one thought the twist regarding the Macross Galaxy takeover was excellent. Anyone who seen the series knew they were going to become the main villains so having them be taken out and replaced with macross fronter as villain was an excellent twist. But then that other crap happened.

  13. c160 says:

    The prison scene is just so awkward..What did those Ranka fans did to earn a place in there? Burning Sheryl posters? lol. The whole scene was just too silly.

    But the new music is really good though. Even Ranka’s songs.

  14. Watcherzero says:

    Visually impressive however an inferior retelling much like the Eureka 7 movie. It substituted plot for emotion, in a way it was like watching opera.

    The only ‘cool’ addition was the fleet at the end, anyone who knows Macross knows how rare and powerful the Macross class ships are and while this film removes the coolness of Macross Frontier and Macross Galaxy fighting from the series seeing a fleet arrive which contained at least five Macross class ships was telling of how serious the wider galaxy considered what was going on. Though again that partly removes some of the impact of the original, the Frontier fleet was supposed to be out beyond civilsation with only nearby Galaxy fleet and the research fleet. Their only contact with home was by communication, and mostly technical updates of newly created technology.

    There was also a lot of plot changes and different outcomes (noone dies in this version) which I felt were just there so that they were different and it wasnt the same ending.

  15. gandalf8 says:

    I finished this movie with quite the opposite feelings that you had, Psgels. I’m usually very critical of even the slightest plot hole. I like scrutinize every action or event that happens in an anime, and would frequently pause an episode to analyze any sudden plot twists or event. If it didn’t make much sense, you would then find me cursing and swearing at the producers or writers on how the heck they could make such an incomprehensible mistake. But with this movie, even with all the idiotic plot progression, deus ex machinas, fake out deaths and whatnot, I found myself just totally enjoying the movie so much. I’m not sure why I had such reaction, but I suspect it was because of how much better Alto was portrayed in this movie. His character is much more prominent in these movies, especially evident through how Alto confronts his past. I was also satisfied with how they portrayed the love triangle this time around. I can now see why Ranka and Sheryl love Alto so much, while Alto is much more aware of the girls feelings compared to the idiot he was in the TV series. Even with that troll ending, I’m glad they showed Alto choosing one of them (Yay Sheryl) instead of leaving it hanging like the TV series. Although why the heck he would do a mating dance and elope with the Vajra queen after confessing to THE Galactic Fairy just beats me. :)

    • Atonal says:

      I totally agree with those that said that the movie was better than the tv series. In my opinion, the tv series failed for me. It was a lot of dialogue and very little action. It’s like they got the story line portion just the right amount, but lacked in the action part. It got pretty boring and I finished it only for the sake of finishing it since I love the Macross series.

      The movie really brought back the reasons why I loved this series so much though. It had the right amount story and action combined. Plus, they brought back one of the best things about Macross had in the very beginning action-wise for a very brief moment. I’M GONNA FIRE A SHIT LOAD OF MISSILES AND WATCH YOU EITHER DODGE OR DIE! The past few Macross additions lacked a lot in terms of this type of action so I really enjoyed seeing all those missiles being released all at one go :)

      I’m also glad that that it was Sheryl and Alto that “got together.” Ranka always appeared like a little kid to me…

      And about the prison scene. It’s a concert at a prison. It doesn’t matter if they were Ranka fans or not. How much entertainment do you think prisoners get at a prison? Of course they would be happy about it! Although the warden was obviously a huge fan if you managed to somehow skip the scene where he’s holding the little signs with his guards with Ranka’s signature, etc. Also, Sheryl wasn’t on that stage for very long either. And you had to kind of pay attention, but there weren’t that many escapees and there was a small scene where you could see a guard shooting something at the few escapees.

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Watched that whole series ages ago.
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Also while I can't remember which episode, Yang picks up a book with the author of the series' name on it.
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Arslan feels so lightweight by contrast/comparison.
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And I think, given your knowledge KTtravlos, that a series review of the new galactic heroes season would probably benefit from you writing it.
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I bring up the music in my earlier comment, because I can understand your reservations regarding the music choice in the remake.
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*despite me not
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Despite not being monarchist , because the characters were human moreso than cartoon characters I couldn't hate on Reinhard.
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@Travlos: I suppose by the time it got to Julian's arc, I was surprised they were still bothering to fight but the fact that they were essentially the last bastion of their beliefs made it special.
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@Travlos: Sometimes when I just finish a show, its a case where I HAVE to jump online immediately after and excitedly ramble out an essay on it.
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@Kaiser ultimately LOGH for me was a decisive point in my political life, as I think it made the best defense of democracy in any form I have seen. And it worked partly because the opponent was presented in the best possible incarnation (Rienhard). Yang's continued adherence to democracy, despite recongising its flaws, helped me avoid a personal descent into authoritarian politics.
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@Kaiser. I am happy you had a good experience. I watched the prequels a while after the main show and I was happy because it was great getting back to those characters. The prequels were also great in fleshing the setting and the characters. So yes, take your time and a break. That way the prequels will be like visiting a place you liked again after a while.
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@KTtravlos: I have some other stuff to get through before watching the galactic heroes prequel though =<
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@Vonter; Not that I oppose captilistically made for a buck cinema, it can be entertaining yes, but I set a standard.
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@Vonter: As open as I am to trash cinema, I consider the resident evil films, like the superhero ones, anti-art.
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I feel some release at finishing but at the same time sadness at saying goodbye to the show and its characters.
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, showing its age.
But for something of this length, it kept itself up far better than most long shows and I feel the length its somewhat justified.

On another note….as corny as the third ending theme is, I got the feels listening to it.
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But while the first 50 odd episodes were an easy job for me aswell as all of the 4th season and some of the late 3rd season made it difficult for me to pull myself away from it, the dialogue even though often well observed did become difficult to follow at times and somewhere in the middle theres a stretch of episodes, bar some moments that feel a bit of an endurance test and the animation is at
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Its attention to detail I felt was at its strongest in the documentary and the series dedication to filling the view in on its world building/fictional history.
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I admired the scope, ambition of this series and the battles eventually grew on me and I was surprised by just how visceral the melee combat got which suited me perfectly. At the same time for all the strategy and action, I found myself more in it for the story, characters and intrigue/politicking. Those battles, due in part to their music choices, had an epic feel to them
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In the end the characters stood out for me the best were Reinhard, Oberstein (for being essentially the amazing man with the plan), Reuntal, Kircheis and Rubinsky, I warmed up to Julian, Yang and Schenkop. When important deaths occurred, they felt highly dramatic, in four cases emotionally effecting for me .
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Also, KTtravlos, thank you for pushing me toward watching the original legend of the galactic heroes, my opinion on the series is largely a mixed one, but by the end I felt I’d watched something rewarding and I’m happy its crossed off my list and I should have gotten round to it sooner.
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I'm probably the oldest here, being 32. Which apparently makes me around Yang-wenli's age, which according to someone means I'm middle aged .
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To the discord guy who brought it up, its difficult not for me to be political, my father was an activist and is a Marxist , I ended up becoming a contradiction a semi-agnostic, but spiritually inclined/tolerant socialist with internationalist ideology.
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@Aidan: Ends in very cliffhanger/abrupt indy way though and the things weakness/how to kill thems too easy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I liked how it explains nothing also and the creature design and how it visual communicates to the audience.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: While I won't say anything, a character death is handled in what I considered a schmaltzy manner. There is a particularly headscratching decision the characters make that you'll either rationalize or hate, but it leads to one of the tenser set pieces later on.
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@Aidan: Quiet place has a good idea at its backbone, that they use sign language in the film to communicate and occassional whispers adds to it, it and the silence allows for a mood to be effectively communicated. It does have jump scares, I wasn't annoyed by them, but I never felt the film required them.
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@Aidan: I read the discord, if you ever need to ask a question relating to film, come to me about it, I will without fail be able to answer 9 times out of 10.
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I was adequately amused by the first episode of wotaku, but found the male lead funnier, which I'm attributing to him be more deadpan.
Lenlo
We found a convient weekend for everyone
Kaiser-Eoghan
*watching
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I would also float the idea of recommendation podcasts every now and then.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I will listen to the podcast more in full later. But I was surprised after asking/suggesting it on the discord, that it came so soon.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I am thinking of re-watching gasaraki and ai yori aoshi.
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@Niello: Perhaps after a while of watch the anime I will simply jump on to the manga.
Vonter
I watched Resident Evil: Vendetta yesterday. It's incredible dumb but kind of fun. I do wonder if in terms of entertainment are like the best videogame based movies. Since it plays like a videogame, it's based on a videogame and is more or less in line with the tone the series has had for a while.
niello
It's such a shame that Golden Kamuy art direction is such a train wreck.
KTravlos
and for the sake of Clausewitz there is clinical term for what Reinhard did. It is called "defeat in detail". Napoleon was a master of it. Proper way to defeat it , is to order the threatened force to retreat to a point where other allied forces are converging. The enemy will either have to retreat, or fight at a disadvantage. The 1813 and 1814 campaigns against Napoleon are examples of that.
KTravlos
Episode 2 of LOGGH: Der Neue Thesis was much better than the first. The music is still an issue, but Yang was well portrayed. I do think there is lack of the directors in showing the cruelty of war, like the first one did. We will see.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Still need to see his short films and black Peter.
Amagi
@Anon: I already know the manga and enjoy it, think the anime is a good adaption so far. Feels good to see a series about video games that are actually just games and romance without tsunderes, tons of blushing or unworldly naive harem girls.
Anonymous2016456
the anime
Anonymous2016456
how do you guys think of wotakoi?
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Hereditary sounds pretty promising here
Kaiser-Eoghan
Forman's an interesting case, when you look at the huge disconnect from his early films from the 60s and then what he went on to make.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Ah, unfortunately I am not a fan of country music so Nashville didn't appeal to me =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: And before Jack kept playing the same role over and over.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Aside from Courtney Love's presence, Larry Flynt is an excellent film. I love the custom camera tricks Kubrick used in Lyndon , dog day afternoon suceeded for me because it did so much more than being just a bank rob film. I wish Spielberg would return to his pre-90s films .
SuperMario
Cuckoo's Nest reminds me of the great 1975 Oscar Best Picture, which for me was Oscar's greatest line-up. The line-ups for that year were: Cuckoo Nest (winner), Nashville, Barry Landon, Dog Day Afternoon and Jaws
SuperMario
@Kaiser: RIP the man. I've seen 2 of his, Amadeus and Cuckoo Nest. Both great but they were more because of the strength of the source
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Milos forman has died =<
Kaiser-Eoghan
Indeed the character designs in steins; gate have seen changes....shockingly mayuri's chest is larger than Daru's ;)
KTravlos
I can live with that. Interested to see what made you reserved.
SuperMario
@KTravlos: you won't agree with my series review then. I have a lot of reservations on VE
KTravlos
Also I finished Violet Evergarden. This was an exceptional series in my book.
KTravlos
the two characters. Finally the battle soundtrack was simply wrong.

I am going to watch it because it is LOGH. And frankly after watching the new one I felt the fact that the old one was dated technical wise (but not in music). But at least on comparison of first episodes, the old one did a better job at giving depth to Reinhard and Keircheis.
KTravlos
well I watched the first episode of the new LOGH and then watched the first episode of the older version. The update in the art is good..but. If the old one was too talky, this one is too boom boom. I also felt that they did not sue the time well to establish Reihard and Kircheis well. Especially the removal of some lines that were in the first episode of the original, really took away a lot from
SuperMario
@Amagi: I can see your point but what a premise for Golden Kamuy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Although golden kamuy is labeled seinen, which gives me some more hope for it.
SuperMario
@Amagi: agree with you about remembering stuffs you've watched. For me, it's always until the second watch that I can remember the plot or characters clearly. Otherwise, all will get hazy like a dream
Anonymous2011116
@Anon Watch a few eps and then male an informed decision based on that; I find the storytelling to be a bit weak but you might not feel the same
AidanAK47
@Anon, If you can ignore the rather odd fanservice and sex symbolism it's actually a pretty enjoyable show with good animation whose story has been getting better.
Amagi
Think it's always the best to watch the first episode since other people might hate something you will love or vice versa.
Amagi
@Anon: For me it still feels like Kiznaiver but I think it really depends on how much you care about the characters and teen relationship deama.
Anonymous2010671
Hey is Darlin the Franxx actually good? It looked kind of just like an ecchi mecha series, but just kind of glancing at the reviews over here makes me think it's more than I'm giving it credit for
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