Posted by psgels on 23 March 2012 with categories: Anime Reviews

I have been following the Noitamina timeslot ever since 2005. At this point, I’ve watched and completed every single anime to appear in the timeslot, save for one, so yes: I do not say this easily: Guilty Crown has been the worst Noitanima series I have ever seen.

This is a combination of a hype that it miserably failed to live up to, plain bad storytelling and a ton of wasted potential. Here we finally had another Noitamina series that was allowed to go on for two cours with 22 episodes. In a timeslot where the biggest problem is being too short this really is an amazing chance, and even more of a bummer to see it trashed like this. This show is stupid, badly told, boring, inconsequential, and most important of all: it’s empty.

Seriously, this series does not know how to tell a story. This show has the idea that as long as it pulls enough plot twists, it’ll automatically get good. It wants this so badly, that it starts pulling these twists right out of its ass. Especially the second half of the series just keeps pulling the most convenient deus ex machina right from out of bloody nowhere. “Oh, we need this power to keep going, oh wait, that character conveniently had that power, even though it was never mentioned or hinted at before!” – and that’s just one of the least insulting ones.

Okay, so the plot is bad. On its own that’s not automatically a failure if the show has enough to make up for it. The thing is however: this show doesn’t. It looks pretty and all, but I can’t really recommend it for anything. In fact, the plot isn’t even the worst part of this show. No, that honour belongs to the cast of characters.

Shu has got to be the worst main character that I’ve seen in a long while. I mean, you really have to try to be as bad as him. This is the kind of guy of which the creators never really decided what personality they should get him. The result is that he completely changes character with every passing episode with no explanation behind it whatsoever. Whatever is the most convenient for the plot, he acts like that. The result is an incredibly annoying, inconsistent and bafflingly stupid character.

And the thing is: the entire show revolves around this loser. Every character is tailor-made to revolve around him, even though we’re never given a reason to actually like him. Everyone is forced into this role to help him tell his story… whatever the hell that may be. The lead female… is completely useless for the entire length of the show. I know that we often joke with romantic interests being pointless, but this girl is even worse. She literally does nothing other than talk here and there and go emo once in a while. The rest of the side-cast also isn’t better of, as they fit in with whatever role the male lead seems to want to play at the moment, acting as cannon fodder for him. The antagonists are just a bunch of screaming stereotypical evil guys who like to kill people because… well… because.

It’s very likely that this show had the biggest budget of the past half year. And yet, I wouldn’t rank the animation as the best or most interesting here. The show has great inbetween animation, but it hardly ever does anything interesting with its eye candy or direction. I found myself enjoying the visuals of Nisemonogatari, Black Rock Shooter, Milky Holmes, Last Exile and Chihayafuru much more, because they actually tried to bring their characters to life. Guilty Crown doesn’t even attempt to do that.

Overall, the first half of Guilty Crown is mind-numbingly boring. Hardly anything really seems to happen in it at all. This completely changes in the second half when it pulls the most bafflingly convenient plot twists that would make Code Geass cringe. And you know what? It’s still boring. It’s been a while since a show that was this hyped, that was this ambitious, fell so flat on its face as here. I read in an interview once that the creators want to make the male lead into the new Shinji Ikari of Evangelion. And indeed, parts of this show scream “Evangelion wannabe”. These guys however had no bloody clue what made that show good.

Storytelling: 6/10 – Mind-numbingly stupid, boring and empty. Has no idea how to tell a good story and just pulls random twists whatever is the most convenient.
Characters: 5/10 – I really have nothing positive to say about these guys whatsoever. There was no character whatsoever who I liked. Everyone revolves way too much around the male lead. Everyone here is exceptionally bad.
Production-Values: 8/10 – Okay, the series does have pretty graphics, but with the budget it has it could have done so much more.
Setting: 6/10 – Who on earth green-lighted this? The setting behind this feels like no thought was put into making it actually work. Again, it centers way too much to the male lead, instead of the other way around.

Suggestions:
Toward the Terra
– Neon Genesis Evangelion
Eden of the East

85 Responses

  1. daigo says:

    I love you reviews psgels, pretty accurate.

    I never see a review of Neon Genesis Evangelion (original series) of you.

    Is that polemic? too review eva?. what is your score to evangelion XD

    • Sei says:

      I think he seldom reviews anime that is too old and, well, everybody already know (Everybody knows Evangelion). But based on his review of the movie, i think he enjoyed the original series a lot.

  2. Armpit says:

    I’d give it a 72/100 , but i agree with almost everything you said in the review.

    Shu is certainly a bad main character, but he is nowhere near as bad as your typical harem lead , although i have a feeling you don’t watch many harems. If you don’t watch harems then yea he is one of the worst main characters. I think what makes it worse is that most of the time terrible main characters tend to come from 12-13 episode generic series. In a 20+ episode production ig/noitamina series there really isn’t an excuse for how bad Shu is.

  3. Anon says:

    You are being way too lenient scoring this anime. Especially after that ending and the excruciating voyage to get there.

  4. Armpit says:

    Too lenient eh? I’d say that applies more to his Fractale review than this one. I know a bunch of people , myself included , who think Fractale is the worst Noitamina series ever.

    • Anon says:

      I’d like to pretend that Fractale never happened. So much wasted potential.

      Both of these shows were pretty though, especially Guilty Crown. But high production values can’t make up the problems with the script.

      • Venterion says:

        “But high production values can’t make up the problems with the script.”

        Nothing to see.

      • zhai2nan2 says:

        _Guilty Crown_ makes _Fractale_ look like _Nausicaa_.

        • Armpit says:

          Fractale looked nice. I think it had a better world setting than GC, but it didn’t have anywhere near the same budget per episode.

          Plus Fractale had 1 extremely good episode that came early on , and a bunch of mediocre to bad episodes.H3ll Fractale even had filler. Filler in a series that couldn’t even produce a coherent well executed story. Makes a lot of sense.

  5. daigo says:

    I give Guilty Crown, 75/100

    It was generic, and pull twists like Code Geass R2.

    A casual anime viewer will like this.

    It was better that those low budget shonen.

    Still mediocre

    • Armpit says:

      Bingo

      Although i see similarities with Code Geass , i still liked Code Geass a lot more. Maybe because it was actually coherent up until ep 5 or so of R2 , and because Lelouch >>>>>>>> Shu.

    • Et2012 says:

      I think many generic shonen are actually better-executed than this show. Mostly because they build characters you want to root for.

      I care far more about the characters in the new version of Hunter X Hunter than I ever did about Shu or anyone else from Guilty Crown.

  6. Ichi says:

    I pretty much liked Fractale, except for the end, as for Guilty Crown…. It was just very bad.

  7. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    I agree on Fractale, largely based on what a waste of potential that whole show was and that I really didn’t like the male lead and that info dump of a (near) ending.
    I gave Guilty crown 14 episodes and then tapped out feeling that it was going nowhere, was wholly unoriginal ,made little sense, was contrived and boring in its plot and main character.
    Visually however it was great and I enjoyed the action scenes but it was all style and no substance.

    • Armpit says:

      I agree with this as well. The only reason i am even debating on this subject is because it irritates me how people are biased , or allow other things to cause the super negative opinions.

      In the case of GC people are going way overboard with the negative stuff simply because of how over-hyped it was , and because it got a massive budget.

      Anyone who watches at least half the animes per season, and can use logic, will see that GC is plain mediocre.

      • Anon says:

        Well, speak for yourself. I had no preconceptions whatsoever going into either Fractale of GC – haven’t even heard of them until watching the first episode. Just because someone despised an anime, it doesn’t follow that she was biased against it from the start.

  8. starry says:

    If the characters are bad and you didn’t like anybody (especially the lead) why is it a 5? A 5 is plain average/mediocre, a 1-3 is terrible. Same could be said for the other scores too…

    • Armpit says:

      I’d give a 9.5 on visuals 9.0 on music a 5 on characters because other than Shu i found most tolerable and a 4.0-5.0 on story simply because it wasn’t that bad other than the numerous parts that didn’t make sense , or weren’t explained. Still most anime nowadays have deus exes all over the place and unexplained plot holes. Most animes however don’t have the visuals or music this has.

    • Souther says:

      psgels has a custom rating system that doesn’t work exactly like the usual scales, so it’s meaningless to argue about this any further.

  9. Armpit says:

    I actually usually agree with psgels rating system , but every now and then i see a head scratcher like GC. I feel like he got sucked in to the pre release hype , and the hype because it had Production IG and noitamina behind it.

  10. Souther says:

    Without going into too much detail, Guilty Crown definitely suffered because of Shu’s general weakness and Inori’s almost complete passivity. This could have been adequately compensated if they changed over time or if Gai and the other characters were significantly better, but they didn’t really have the opportunity to fully develop either. It’s disappointing and perhaps 22 episodes just wasn’t enough, but we’ll never know if there was any other alternative.

    Admittedly, Shu eventually became more of a man, in a certain sense, but not in a particularly exciting nor interesting way. It was all rather typical and predictable. I didn’t care for the incest subtext found throughout the plot either, which was taken to the extreme with the whole Mana/Inori debacle.

    In the ending, Guilty Crown was simply too boring and a real slog to sit through. Even if I don’t really agree with psgels on Code Geass, the fact is that other show also had some writing and characterization issues but it still benefited from being a longer series and thus having more of a preexisting base before the twists came in. Guilty Crown feels like an incomplete and inconsistent attempt to do something similar, but with even worse results.

  11. Armpit says:

    Wow Souther very eloquent , and also a very accurate post.

    On the Shu topic, i don’t know if it was just me, but i disliked him a lot because of a single event. When the girl who liked him died and he actually became badass for a short while. It gave me hope that i never should of had. If i didn’t have that hope, i would of just chalked Shu up as a normal male generic lead that we see so much these days, and wouldn’t of been so mad.

    Also strongly agree on the unneeded incest subtext. I also strongly agree that this series would of highly likely been more passable if it got the episodes that Code Geass did. I really have no clue what they were thinking. Maybe it would of also been better off if they didn’t air this until the spring season. About 30% of the way in i felt like they were making stuff up on the spot and that is inexcusable to me when a budget like this is involved.

    • AidanAK47 says:

      Armpit, to me Shu(Or the more suitable name “Shoe”) was the downfall of guilty crown. The biggest flaw. Psgels said before that one episode of guilty crown was decent because Shu didn’t make an appearance. And when you think about it the most annoying moments of this show was when that idiot was on screen. You said harem leads are worst but I disagree with that. Harem leads are pretty much plot devices. Their only job is to stand there and be loved by girls for no reason. They don’t really inspire hatred because they are pretty much a blank stale for poor bastards to paste their personality on.
      Shu on the other hand is a character that pretends to have character. He’s like a very poor actor. He joins the undertakers despite having no real reason for doing so. Doesn’t really care about Japan. Has no real goal. But despite the fact that the only thing that defines him is a power that isn’t even his everyone loves him for some reason or thinks he’s special. Even if he commits terrible mistakes he is absolved of all blame and even someone who was almost killed just because Shu didn’t want to waste air in the end has to forgive Shu because he was clearly in the wrong…. apparently. Shu can even cheat on a test and is forgiven because he was just using something that made him special. So basically everyone sees him as a Mary sue but we know better. Thus making him one of the most annoying characters I have ever seen.

      If you remove him from the show guilty crown actual becomes fairly watch-able. Still stupid but not quite as bad as before.

  12. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    I’m possibly alone in this but I would see Shu as being just as bad as harem lead. At least in Code Geass Lelouch had charisma and was at least we were told was clever, Shu is such an everyman that he feels like a self insert character, just as harem leads are and I think this is further supported by the moe aspects of the show. Still despite saying all that I somewhat agree with you Aidan by saying he’s like a bad actor.

  13. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Feel free to contest/debate that view or tell me if theres anything off about it off course.

  14. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    And incest, for lords sake they even threw that fetish in. I’m really glad I didn’t finish this show.
    Whats awful though is that I can watch bad anime and get a laugh out of it as a guilty pleasure or make fun of it/laugh at it but here I couldn’t even do that.
    With Code Geass that wasn’t the case for me, I deem that every bit as ridiculous but in its case Geass became unintentionally fun because of it.

  15. Armpit says:

    Lelouch wasn’t a bad character no matter how you slice it anyway. Sure Code Geass had problems , especially in R2, but that wasn’t because it had a bad lead.

    And actually Aidan you have swayed me quite a bit with your post. It is completely true that harem leads are almost always just plot devices. And even if i do find the typical harem lead , not all of them because there are exceptions like Akuto from Ishiban Daimao, to be a tad worse than Shu , i have to factor in what you mentioned. So yes i now agree with you and have changed my opinion ! Shu is worse because he is in an anime that was supposed to be good and original , and not mindless fun like harems are supposed to be.

    Like i said before though i really hate Shu.So i don’t know if i’m letting bias cloud my judgement. Those 3 episodes out of 22 that i like Shu made everything worse in the end.

  16. Armpit says:

    Code Geass is similar to GC in how it generates hate, albeit for slightly different reasons. In regards to Code Geass it’s because it has a lot of fanboy/girls that claim its the best anime ever , or one of the best.

    If i were using psgels rating system id probably give Code Geass like a 82/100.

  17. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Whats worse though is why there had to be a moe element here at all. Especially Inori. Look, yes she was attractive I’m not going to lie about that, I like moe I admit that but I’m so sick of it showing up where I feel it shouldn’t/doesn’t belong and its all the worse because Shu feels to me like a self insert character.

  18. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Its easy to get caught up in the hype of Geass and Guilty crown if followed when their airing but any thought given to either could at least in my case realize how trite both are.

  19. Armpit says:

    Honestly Inori had one good part for me in the entire anime, and that’s not good for someone who took up the 2nd most screen time. The only time i enjoyed her was the measly 3 mins when she transformed into that beastly form. Too bad her deus ex morphing like that negated the coolness of it.

  20. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Also does anyone agree with what people say about this show being misogynistic?
    I apologize if anything I’m saying here comes off as too rantish but I feel should defend what I said regarding the moe elements of GC, I said that they shouldn’t belong there in a mech show, to me its the same and equally annoying as watching a moe harem comedy show that shoehorns in fake drama and angst near the end without indicating or touching on drama from the start.

  21. Sei says:

    At the end of the day, there’s nothing we could say that matter. Shoe and that emotionless Rei-wannabe chalked up the popularity poll I think. The DVD and Blu-ray sells like hot cakes. An anime only need smooth animation, nice art, nice music, hot babe and pretentious plot to sell those days, maybe.

    Dear god don’t make it the new standard for anime from now on.

  22. Armpit says:

    I don’t know about misogynistic , but i know that as every minute passes with me thinking about GC i like it less and less. And i started out thinking it was mediocre.

    I think about Code Geass which i found extremely entertaining with a bunch of flaws. It makes me think if GC at least made the characters somewhat likeable then it would of been way more entertaining. I mean Code Geass with all it flaws, still had interesting characters , and quite a few of them. Shu can’t hold a candle to Lelouch. Inori can’t compare to CC.

    I really think GC should of been held back til spring so they could of went over the script again. There were some good and interesting ideas in GC, but they all fault like they were just thrown together, and made up on the fly in some instances.

  23. 祈是条母狗 says:

    祈是条母狗,谁要谁牵走;祈是个臭逼,谁要谁来上

  24. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    The differences between Inori and CC are most apparent in the fact CC was an actual character (as was Lelouch far from what Shu was)and not and maybe I’m being too harsh here, a little sex doll more than anything else.

  25. Armpit says:

    I think the guy who called her a rei wannabe had it right.

    I think i’m going to marathon the series again in like 6 months and see what i think before i assign a rating to it. The more i think the more Aidans point sets in for me. I think about Shu and then i think about the typical male harem lead. They have almost all the same qualities with 1 big difference. Shu is a whiney b^tch who was emo for literally 75% of the series. The typical harem lead never goes emo , and if he does its for a few mins in an episode or 2.

  26. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Given what you said about re-watching it armpit, I may do just that. I try to to where possible watch something at least twice, just in case or if I find my interests change.
    It may be entirely possible that in whatever time I choose to re-watch it I will have a different view on it.

  27. nymbryxion says:

    While the premise is similar to Code Geass, and is as much of a train wreck as R2. The biggest difference why people like Code Geass more (still had a lot of hate too) was that the protagonist was interesting. The biggest problem with Shu in guilty crown, was he is a stereotypically weak protagonist (like a lot of harem shows), and he doesn’t try to engage in conflict or solve problems. Rather the main character is a wuss for majority of the show and tries to just run away and doesn’t seem to do much (so the writers essentially had to make the situation occur by coincidence near the protagonist to get him to react at all). Also, the idea with Guilty Crown I felt was they wanted to gradually bring Shu from a weak person to a strong leaderlike role. But this occurred way too late and had a lot of consistency problems to do so. Meanwhile Code Geass, despite its flaws, the protagonist Lelouch was interesting. Unlike other heroes, he was ambitious and wanted to actually do things in the story and cause trouble. Plus, having the protagonist willing to kick puppies to reach his goal is always refreshing to the stereotypical hero crap we see all the time (not to say that plot didn’t have any flaws, it jumped around a lot too in R2).

  28. Mormegil says:

    Yep. This or Jyu-Oh-Sei for worst anime to air on the Noitamina block. Pick your poison. Plain and simple, they both sufferered from atrocious writing.

  29. Commenter says:

    Personally I liked some parts of this show, and I didn’t think that Shu was a bad character. For one he seemed to react in a believable way in many situations. He doesn’t have the moments of predicting the most outlandish things and seeing the future like others in this genre(looking at you, Lelouch).

    This show definitely wasn’t without flaws though, like how there were simply a couple of characters that were just there but never used by the plot in a meaningful way. Or the technobabble that is the mark of poor writing. Though the final cardinal sin this show did was bringing back Gai. I personally was glad to see that annoyance die halfway through the show. He was just not very interesting and bringing him back to life after he was killed not only cheapened earlier episodes, it also made clear how little he had to do with the plot of the latter part. His goals were achieved at the halfway point. They brought him back together with his part of the plot. And this was weird. It was as if the writers decided to make this a two-parter though copying the first part but changing the details here and there.

    TL;DR: So here we are now. Why did you, who loathe the show, watch it to the very end?

  30. Da5id says:

    I wonder, is this the lowest score you’ve given a show?

  31. momotsu says:

    GC’s pacing, story and character are indeed atrocity, I admit. No need for further discussion with those issues.

    But, Crap, After I saw your score with the production, you review is full of bias, 8/10?? are you kidding me?
    GC’s production is fantastic. Both animation 2D/CG and music are really superb. Far better than Lase Exile Fam or the most of serie that you give 9/10 or 10/10.

    As you mention about the budget, did you see its actual pay sheet or it is just your clueless guess??
    If it is the latter, I’m disappointed.

    Please, I know you hate this serie, but please , give it some deserved justice.

    • walker says:

      The animation is good, but it’s often focused on the most useless places. The display of emotions was just slight widening or narrowing of eyes, while more interesting movements were going on with the hair and boobs.

      Another thing: maybe it’s just me, but the shots, composition and camera angle seem quite general for such a hyped up production.

  32. anon says:

    I almost completely agree with your review, though the score I’d give it is much lower.

    I didn’t even think it was possible for me to hate a cast of characters as much as School Days’ cast but this series almost got there. So many inconsistencies, stupid and mindbogglingly choices. They seemed to be only there to serve the plot, which wasn’t good either.

  33. Armpit says:

    I didn’t realize School Days was hated that much on this site. It’s a show people usually love or hate , but seems almost everyone here hates it.

    I can’t hate it. The main character was a huge douche , but was nothing like the typical harem lead so i can’t hate on him. Almost all the girls were tramps, but again that is so different from your typical harem where the girls are usually just d%ck teases so i can’t hate on that either. And the ending was absolutely hilarious for me even though that wasn’t what they intended i’m sure.

    • AidanAK47 says:

      I like school days. The shock factor was excellent and it does make you feel for the characters even if it’s done cheap and manipulative. It’s not the best anime but you got to admit that it had balls. Plus, it’s an excellent anime to traumatise the hell out of newbies…

      • Armpit says:

        Absolutely agree. Now for someone who doesn’t watch many harems i can understand them giving it a horrible rating. For anyone who watches a lot of harems like i do though there is no way to hate on School Days.

        On a Harem Scale i’d give School Days a 95/100 because it is so unique in comparison to other harems. In overall terms id give it probably a 75/100

        • magi.touma says:

          Then White Album should be rated as 100/100, considering how much it broke the convention of your usual harem…

          • Armpit says:

            Yea i will be checking it out soon because of recommendations from the community here. I look forward to it.

          • AidanAK47 says:

            Not at all. White album is a harem that tried to apply soap opera drama to it. In the end many the aspects of a harem were presented unaltered. But even then I find it hard to call that show a harem despite the fact it has the qualifications. Wasn’t it more a drama?

            But to me that show was a complete bore. 26 episodes and I didn’t even get a conclusion to the romance. Normally I wouldn’t hope but this was a VN adaptation so I thought they would pick at least one of the girls endings.

          • Armpit says:

            Woah he doesn’t get any girl in the end? I know he has sexual relations with at least one girl in the series, and has a bunch more after him and he ends up alone?

            I don’t want to sit through 26 ep’s of drama for that. It’s annoying enough when the guys in normal harems don’t choose anyone , but at least you usually get some laughs out of it, and occasionally some awesome action scenes.

            With School Days it was only 12 episodes and it didn’t just rely on soap operaish drama

  34. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Based on your thoughts on school days and my comments on it in the shoutbox I reckon you’d like white album armpit.
    And I agree with you armpit, even though I’m happy to accept a generic harem as enjoyable to me, school days still went that extra mile and offered something different.
    Didn’t feel as if it was playing it as safe or as self conscious as most post 80s/90s harems.

  35. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Aidan, I don’t think the guy in white album really deserved a girlfriend to be perfectly honest with you.
    Also I’m sorry if this sounds rude but can we move this over to the chat box instead, this is a review about guilty crown not the harem genre and school days.

    • Armpit says:

      I think its probably better here than to spam up the chat box. Not to mention spoilers aren’t allowed there. With all the hate GC has got we may as well use it to our advantage.

    • AidanAK47 says:

      I agree but seeing as we were not going to get a “Nice boat” end I think it would have been more satisfactory to see him learn the error of his ways and actually clean up his act. Seeing him break up with the girls he didn’t want and apologise truthfully would have been a far more suitable end. But what happens in the in end? He’s screws a bunch of girls, causes them great misery and gets away with Scott free. Not to mention he learns absolutely nothing from it and the girls don’t even hate him. At least school days got the moral right. You screw around, it will come back and kill you.

      • magi.touma says:

        I guess that the nice boat stuff and the moral of the story isn’t really required when you watching an anime (or,at least for me), I enjoyed White Album for its unexpected twists, the characters emotions (I’d applause the VAs for doing a really good job at it,i.e. Nana Mizuki),and its character development.

        The dramas in WA is at much higher complexity,and therefore quality than in SD.Really, when watching SD, you can just watch the 1st episode and skip to 12th without miss anything. In WA,however, if you do that.. you’ll scratching your head.

        • Armpit says:

          I haven’t seen WA so i can’t be sure, but still i don’t think you can even compare the drama between 2 shows.. From the comments i’ve seen it seems like WA would be considered drama/harem. I would classify SD as psychological/harem.

        • AidanAK47 says:

          Magi, in the end White album amounted to nothing. Nice boat or a moral isn’t exactly necessary…but all stories need a point. So why care about the drama or twists of white album when it doesn’t even result in anything?

  36. Armpit says:

    Yea Makoto got what he deserved.He knew that he was actually ruining peoples lives and didn’t care. So many of the people i’ve talked to that hate School Days almost always have 1 thing in common. The mention how much they hate the main lead. And i have seen some people going deep into it explaining how mad they got.I’ve seen this in forums and in comments on streaming vids.

    I always want to ask these people a couple things, but never do because i know it will just start a fight that isn’t rational. If you hate the guy that much then didn’t they do a good job? How can you say you hate the series because of a bad character , yet not acknowledge that you are supposed to not like him?

    And to top it all off he got what he had coming in the end. It isn’t like he got away with it.

    • Kaiser Eoghan says:

      As I said I think Touya from white album didn’t deserve to be with anyone. However he did acknowledge he was replacing his girlfriend in the end. I also think white album played it more realistically than school days even in its ending.
      And while I can curse Touya for sleeping around and kissing other girls, having more time for other women I can still turn it around and see it another way that his relationship with Yuki was not a healthy/feasable one.

    • Sei says:

      Well, a lot of people hated the characters of school days because it was badly done. His changes in personality makes no sense at all, the girls are reduced to sex object or outright obsessed with that guy for no reason viewer could understand. I appreciated it effort to make its story apart from other harem, but still, in order to do that, characters have to be real character, not walking caricature.

      • Armpit says:

        His change in personality made no sense? He was basically a sociopath which means he was born that way. And to be honest i witnessed many of girls like that during my school days. Young girls are not smart when it comes to relationships (in general there are always exceptions though). Girls are more mature and smarter on average than boys of the same age , but when it comes to love/dating/romance thats a different story.

        I will fully admit though about halfway in stuff started unrealistic everywhere. I doubt what he did would of drove 1 girl insane, much less two. There is no way that ending made sense. I just don’t nitpick at that stuff , especially when i know i’m watching a harem. I was entertained greatly, therefore i enjoyed it.

        And for the record, i can easily see how many people would hate SD ,and i wouldn’t try to say they were wrong. I am only against the people who solely hate it because of the main character.

        • Kaiser Eoghan says:

          Have a read of my most recent comment if you can regarding Makotos personality change, I do believe he was a sociopath yes but I have to wonder if that was a result of his upbringing rather than being born that way. And then theres the influence of that bastard he was hanging out with who in a sense raped Kotonoha, who knows what kind of effect that guy had on Makoto’s mind.
          Am I just over-analyzing this?

          • Armpit says:

            You aren’t over analyzing it.If you ever play the game you learn a lot more. Still even if he wasn’t a sociopath , that’s not out of character for a male his age. A bunch of males at that age think with their lower head and don’t care about the consequences.

            But yea he was a sociopath for sure. He knew all the trauma he was causing and kept going. That is where he differs from a normal guy that age.

          • Kaiser Eoghan says:

            I would have been the opposite of Makoto in that sense of sociopathy but I agree with that alot of men that age think the way you mentioned. In a way and this is in a lesser extent to why I can say something bad about Makoto but moreso the guy from white album, is that both of them and what they did with women made me regret when I myself was unfaithful when I was a teenager.

          • Kaiser Eoghan says:

            And Makoto as far as I recall was damn worse in the game…holy hell if I remembered right didn’t he bang Kotonoha’s sister too in the VN?

      • Kaiser Eoghan says:

        I also think that my previous comment justifies Makoto’s change of tune.

  37. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    And I agree that the fact we hate Makoto because we’re meant to and he’s not a bad character. Yeah I hate the guy as a person but as a character he’s original/innovative for the genre.

  38. Armpit says:

    I was getting that vibe from all the comments.Meaning that i had a feeling WA would be more realistic than SD. In SD the characters acted realistic for close to the first half of the series,then it quickly turned into ridiculousness. Although it was still entertaining. Think ill also start WA sometime during this week.

    • AidanAK47 says:

      I don’t know Armpit. White album is downright boring. Even Psgels admits in his review that the first season is pretty bad. But I found the second season to be not great either.
      Let me just say that you shouldn’t go into it expecting anything great. Actually, now that I think about it I can barely remember any of the story. That’s usually a bad sign.

  39. Kaiser Eoghan says:

    Actually you could say that Makoto had depth as a character and even explain his behaviour, theorize at least that its partly due to his family background, I recall his parents were seperate and divorced and then look at his relationship with Kotnoha, she let him do nothing. Okay maybe I’ll get alot of hate for this but…a relationship that does not provide sex for one or either party in it is a poorly functioning one.

  40. alt says:

    This review is why I like your blog.

  41. lol says:

    I get your review, but I honestly find it biased that you only gave it a 8/10 for production values.

  42. Snowolf says:

    To be honest, I’m surprised psgels didn’t give this a 4/10; and those four points are for the animation and music, if anything. Everything else was the biggest high budget trainwreck I’ve seen yet. At least it was mildly entertaining though.

  43. Jsmithmim says:

    Super flop series..WHY people are bringing CG in here i don’t know..its one of the best despite the twists..i personally prefer happy endings..i would have loved the ending if inori(deserved) and shu(slightly arguable) both were alive..if i rank this anime it will get 30/100..[plot-02,charecters-03,music-10,animation-8,enjoyment-03,ending-00,production-02,script-02 ]..i have never given an anime sucg low marks..(my top rated animes* FMAB:99/100,CG AND CG2:97.5/100,D GRAY MAN:98/100)

  44. Jsmithmim says:

    Code gess was a great show..its one of the most highly rated shows of all time because of lelouch of course…I DON’T LIKE HAREM SHOWS TAHT MUCH..I LIKE ACTION(SHOUNEN) ANIMES..GUILTY CROWN SHOULD HAVE HAD TWO SEASONS LIKE FATE ZERO(RATED-85/100)..kick the ass of IG..how dare they make an anime go to dust..i hope some other studio like aniplex or nitroplus takes responsibility of GC,makes proper use of the story and give it a happy ending which i prefer the most.

  45. tiredx says:

    i liked every thing about GC except the telling of the story frankly i’ve seen worse but i have also seen waaay better a couple of tweeks here and there and i think GC coulda been i fairly good manga cept you could feel the story line writers desperate struggle to figure out how they wanted the series to end everything from allowing the evil and dumb people to live who should have died to just throwing weird unexplained things into the mix wtf?

  46. tiredx says:

    also i’ve seen both school days manga and anime i hate both but for 2 dif reasons in the manga the main characters not a doosh he’s just a normal guy trying to talk to the girl he likes while also protecting his childhood friend who becomes a little to attached to him. however in the anime they make him seem more like a no good player who takes advantage of people if feel kinda bad for him in contrast between the two because most people base his character off the anime only in which he is scum and im not even goiing to go into the games details…

  47. lilac says:

    i dont know what’s wrong with me but i really love the series,

    shu is not the best protagonist, but definitely not the worst yet,
    i really like shu being so human, weak, fragile and idiot most of the times, but in the end still found himself.. but i agree, the story telling, the script, and character development were not given much thought. it really beats me to think if inori and shu’s first meeting is part of Gai’s plan or if it’s just an accident, and if shu’s involvement in all that war thing and his connection to lost Christmas were all just a coincidence..it was nvr explained(that reminds me of bleach a bit, but atleast in bleach, ichigo’s involvement and everything was explained convincingly by aizen in the end and everything made sense!)… also in the end part, i got confused why all of a sudden things were put into place sooo randomly that it doesn’t made sense..it’s so stupid,it hurts.
    the antagonists were not fully rooted also, the main reason of all their ruckus was so stupid, but if the writers did a better script on that it might become convincing..i guess? i get the feeling that the writers were trying to be obvious and abstract at the same, the only problem is that the obviousness and abstractedness they are trying to pull out in the story doesn’t match at all ( i hope you get what i’m saying)

    but still i love the anime, because in the end the title GUILTY CROWN did made sense! surprisingly! and when i ponder abut it, i forgive all the mishaps of this anime, and Shu, for me,after all those stupid plot twist,ending being crippled, alone whithout inori and pathetically listening to a song reminiscing something he’ll trade his life for to see again, did represent the guilty crown pretty good.. if that sound stupid, pardon..

    [own opinion, dont hate!]

    • Idunno says:

      I agree with you there. GC for me is also a pretty good series. It only needed a better story and development and it might break the series entirely GC comes out as just really underdeveloped. IMO.
      I was never annoyed with Shu. I don’t know if thats bad or if I ca just tolerate him.

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AidanAK47
It really does feel like this show is aiming to be something akin to Fate/Zero as that too did have a exposition heavy beginning. Difference here is that series had Urobuchi writting and while the man my be more famous for his murderous treatment of characters, he is a master of presenting exposition.
AidanAK47
I hope that's the majority of the exposition done for Re:creators. We established the stakes, rules and factions. So now would be good to focus on the creator and creation interactions plus badass battles.
Honestly I really regret Meteora coming into the story when she's being pretty much a massive exposition device.
Konstantinos Travlos
Hmm the "The Man who Knew 75 Languages" reminds me of the game "The Last Express". Great game. Definitely interested.
Anonymous1056824
moster keaton
Anonymous1056607
ditective conan
AidanAK47
@Anon, Pretty sure you are just trying to pick a fight more than defend the show but a decent show to me would be one that is deeply flawed but enjoyable to some degree. Sagrada reset is not this. It goes out of it's way to be unenjoyable. To me it's a 3/4 out of 10 show. Interesting concept but with a presentation so alien that the viewer can't empathise with anything on screen.
Lenlo
I mean, decent warrants about a 5-6. That, in theory, should be an "Average" show.
Anonymous1055365
It's a decent show. You're being overly critical.
SuperMario
In the Out of Competition slot (you think that I'm finished?), 2 films in particular that catch my interest are the Korean Lost in the Moonlight which looks like a fun and lightheart adventure, and the Norway-Poland co-production adult-oriented The Man who Knew 75 Languagues about the star-crossed love between the Queen of Romania and a titular man, I guess
SuperMario
Rounding up the Main Competition are Animal Crackers, a 3G American family film which I don't have good feeling about; Big Fish and Begonia - a Chinese indie film that divided the critics, but gathered skyhigh commercial success in its mainland China; and finally Zombillenium which sounds like an enjoyable European children film
SuperMario
From other countries, most notable films are the Loving Vincent - the first feature length hand painting; the Chinese black comedy Have a Nice Day that premiered in Berlin earlier this year; Ethel and Ernest which already gained a strong reviews from the UK; Tehran Taboo- a German production about the lives of 3 women in Iranian community, which sound exactly like my kinda of film.
SuperMario
Alright, I'm here to bring you news about the selection of this coming Annecy AKA one of the best animation festival out there. 3 of anime features: A Slient Voice, In the Corner of the World and Masaaki Yuasa's Lu over the Wall will compete for the main competition.
SuperMario
I'm a fan of thought-provoking anime (see Lain, Boogiepop Phantom) but I need to care about the story and characters first before I make an effort to dig deeper to the theme. Sagrada Reset failed on that fronts.
SuperMario
It's not really about being smart/dumb here. As a creator, they already have an advantage to know how the story and plot will play out. I don't mind this advantage because otherwise the plot will become a hot mess. But don't use that advantage as a way to widen the gap between them and the audience.
AidanAK47
Ugh...Ray Gigant was pretty much mediocre up until this point but now it;s utterly asinine. Whoever decided on this endgame needs to be fired. When you are ready to end a game, no player want a ten floor dungion with a boss on each floor coupled with a goddamn boss rush halfway. Just...fuck.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It must be worse than oremo.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I saw some pages of the eromanga sensei manga and my reaction was that I was sad that it actually existed and stated "why would you even" after looking at it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
As an anime example, sekaisuru kado has lots of dialogue but it seems like it could actually be engaging.
Kaiser-Eoghan
So basically no I don't think we're dumb for not liking sagrada reset, given that myself and Mario are capable of watching genuinely smart wordy things and getting them.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I can imagine watching Sagrada reset and thinking I'd rather be watching a Bergman film instead , something also with lots of dialogue and themes but actually engaging/clever and NOT pretentious or obnoxious about it.
Anonymous1054942
is it possible that you are all just dumb?
Anonymous1054269
@Mario: I like how you described it as giving a middle finger to the viewers. It's so true. Like, it tries to be intelligent and make the viewer feel stupid, but it just comes off as obnoxious/pretentious.
Lenlo
CGI remains the worst part of it, but we are getting more and more 2D art which I actually enjoy the style of
Lenlo
Its an improvement. The art is better, and maybe its because I prefer this arc, but the pacing is better as well. I gave last season a 3, but this one is more deserving of a 4 and if they can nail certain scenes coming up I may bump it to a 5.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: How's Berserk doing so far? Haven't picked up last week and this week's episodes.
Lenlo
Ground*. I hate it when I fat finger something.
Lenlo
Thats always the worst, when a story starts off promising and then someone runs it into the grouhnd
AidanAK47
@Mario, so it's still at it. To me it's like someone was given an interesting story and made it his mission to ruin it as much as possible.
SuperMario
@Aidan: it's still the same crap. I have a feeling that Sagrada Reset gives a middle finger to us viewers. The plot with development and characters that we have no way to figure out ourselves. The characters who change motive and even personality after each timeline. The main lead girl who act like a robot. I gave this show too many chance so I won't bother to spend more time watching it.
Anonymous1052767
Eromanga sensei
AidanAK47
@Mario, Oh ho, what was the dealbreaker? Just that it didn't change or did something really stupid happen?
SuperMario
Sagrada Reset (long sigh) (scratching my head) (eyes rolling). Dropped
AidanAK47
Hey you.
Konstantinos
Yeah, at this point, this season looks good.
SuperMario
Quite happy with ID-0 and Zero in particular. Zero charms me to no end that I'm still debating whether I should blog it. The trio Re:Creators, Kado, Atom still doing pretty well and the sequels MHA and Bahamut are enjoyable as expected. We have a wide range of anime offerings this season.
SuperMario
Sagrada Reset & SukaSuka I will give it another episode, at least until this current arcs over. They both have potential but Sagrada Reset tries so hard to sound smart, and SukaSuka still falls into its LN tropes which bugged the show down.
SuperMario
*no real urge
SuperMario
I've finally catch up with all other series I wanna follow this season. Alice & Zorouku will be off my list for now, Zorouko is a great character but everything else falls flat so far. I have real urge to continue Attack on Titan and Berserk so I'll wait until they're finished.
Vonter
I watched some episodes of KonoSuba yesterday, reminds me of Those Who Hunt Elves. And I suppose it might be an easy recommendation because it mainly comes down to; do you find it funny? or fun? If not, skip.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While yes its true of watching those slice of life shows week by week is better, I felt that when reading the manga for Aria it was easier to marathon by reading it rather than watching.
SuperMario
Flying witch have the same atmosphere, but it's a purely slice of life anime. I love Aria too and I agree that watching it 1 episode a time is the best way to enjoy it. Can't think of other serious anime that have those calming elements for now
Anonymous1042537
Yeah, I noticed they all have pretty different structures from one another (ACCA's political, Mushishi's naturalistic, Monster is a thriller, Rakugo's about a specific art form, 3-gatsu is ostensibly about Shogi, etc.) but I found that I found some similar calming elements in them (to different degrees of course).
Anonymous1042537
Thanks, I'll definitely check Aria out!
AidanAK47
One of the hardest shows to marathon besides Bakemonogatari. Though Bakomono gave me a headache after a few episodes whereas Aria just had me so mellow that I could drift into sleep at any second.
AidanAK47
Don't know if you could call it a sub genre as the examples you listed are all really different from each other.
Though in the vein of calming shows I think you can add the Aria series to the list. That show is so relaxing that you find yourself nodding off to it. Not out of boredom but it just has that effect on you.
Anonymous1042537
Do you guys know if there's a specific subgenre like this, or am I making it up? And are there other anime with that kind of feel. Not exactly slice of life, but in the general vicinity of it.
Anonymous1042537
The Great Passage was another great example. It delved into the seemingly boring subject matter of dictionary-making, but it was a surprisingly charming show. 3-Gatsu no Lion also looks promising, I enjoyed a lot of the first season (but wasn't a fan of the forced comedy sometimes).
Anonymous1042537
Like the episode where Tenma first meets Grimmer on the train to Prague and they have a picnic on the mountain was so dang good. I really need to rewatch that.
Anonymous1042537
There are some elements of that style in other shows too, but to a lesser extent. Like some parts of Rakguo (mainly season 1) was very soothing. Naoki Urasawa's Monster had some fantastic, almost melancholic episodes like this.
Anonymous1042537
It seems that most anime w/ that kind of style usually also have another genre mixed in. Mushishi was also very naturalistic, ACCA had a political underpinning.
Anonymous1042537
It's sort of in the vein of a "Mushishi" style show. I suspect it's an emerging subgenre of slice of life that's meant to be very calming, relaxing, atmospheric which I really am digging.
Anonymous1042537
I really hope there are more shows like it; not that it was perfect, but it was certainly unique and hit a lot more than it missed. I really like those cool, quiet shows you can enjoy with a nice cup of tea before you go to sleep.
Anonymous1042537
Ironically though, I would say that the first half of ACCA (up until the big flashback) is better enjoyed week by week, or at least that's what I found.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It felt good marathoning a show again rather than waiting week by week and next weekend I'll probably marathon house of five leaves.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Forgot to mention...there were certainly a share of moments in Acca that feel fanservish to the female audience =P
SuperMario
@Aidan: haven't noticed that. Will fix it soon.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Only problem I can see is that the posts have no spaces in between paragraphs.
SuperMario
... to be near my laptop for an entire week. First time that I had to blog entirely through my phone. Seemed to work out fine but I had to borrow screenshots from other source (I thank you that other source) ^^
SuperMario
*unless* rather than *as long as*. This has been a crazy week for me as I didn't have a chance
SuperMario
@anon1039488: I find the idea of limiting excess to exclusively stream an aime is a dumb idea; because as long as people have a chance to expose to the anime they won't really care to check it out. So I detest owning the legal streaming account, but I always pay back by buying DVDs/Blurays that I liked
SuperMario
I watched House of Five Leaves by the same mangaka and I really enjoyed it. Nataume Ono is a pretty excelent storyteller (a bit mixed on her art-style thou)
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I agree that the first dew episodes of ACCA were not that engaging but the endingg neatly tied up all loose ends. I still feel Grossular's act is kind of messy (why was he under such control from Lilium? He's not that kind to be in such passive role to be honest) but other than those I don't have any real complaints.
Anonymous1039488
Competition is good, but it makes it cost so much to legally watch everything. That's why a lot of people pirate I feel.
Anonymous1039488
You have Crunchryoll and Funi, fine. Then there's Daisuki which is kinda random. Then Amazon, Netflix, and Hulu all have some random anime, though it seems that mainly Amazon has current series
Anonymous1039488
I don't have Amazon Strike, which is like their new venture into anime I guess. There's too many streaming services to keep up with tbh
Kaiser-Eoghan
To be honest I'm pretty crap when it comes to supporting things, I don't pay for almost all the things I watch/read/play, I don't have a crunchy or amazon account, I still pirate legal streams.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Anon: Is it a case that your country is blocked? Maybe go for a vpn? If you absolutely have to you could pirate the show...
Anonymous1039488
I wanna watch Re:Creators but don't have Amazon... :( alas
Kaiser-Eoghan
I feel like I need to wait and see approach with sekaisuru Kado...this prologue phase is...long...
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wish it had been 24 episodes long though to better organize itself.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Favourite characters were Jean, Groslur and Nino.
Can’t say I cared for the goofy interactions between Jean’s workfriends though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Yet for whatever I could say about the pacing, when the twists happen they creep up on you and the show mostly lands every one of them, even if I’m not exactly pleased that sometimes the series does the “I pulled it out of the hat/ass” approach.
I’m relatively indifferent on the art/animation.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I did feel it picks up, improves by the mid-mark and to an extent the wait is worth it and things do come together even if I wasn’t always totally confidant with how it was getting there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Having the protagonist go from district to district to flesh out the settings a decent enough idea and the main characters a fairly chill, cool guy.
Though the dialogue does create suspicion, intrigue, it does also plod/pad in equal measure at times.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Finally decided to sit down and watch Acca.
This show had its lovers/haters I’m sure, having watched it my feelings are mixed.
It is a slight breath of fresh air I’ll give it that and makes me want to maybe re-assess of adaptations of the author’s work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The only assayas film I've encountered so far that I disliked was Irma Vep, even though the lead actress was great, the surrounding performances, especially by Jean-Pierre-Lenaud were awful. Sils Maria I was initially evasive of because I'd heard that the relationship between Binoche and Stewarts characters was under-unexplored.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Weersathakul's films are something else entirely...Otherworldly yet still cinematic. I feel a bit underwhelmed after watching the Unknown girl. The identity of the culprit, for example, feel forced for me that take me out our their naturalistic style. I'mmin between Clouds of sils maria too, know it's a good movie but it feels pretentous at times, like the movie Youth
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I also got round to watching Unknown girl by Dardenne, it carries enough moments of their brilliance but I felt they didn’t have as much mastery over their usual pacing style this time round, for the first time it felt like a thriller that played out like a drama, rather than a drama that has a pseudo thriller feel to it.
Going to watch Clouds of sils Maria next.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The entire second half, which I’d have watched an entire film about is very atmospheric and dreamy/esoteric nearing just exactly the kind of thing I like.
The way he uses/shoots Thailands geography along with his cinematography is impressive, particularly in that second half.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: He shoots something simple like a chopping scene in a strangely engaging way, the scene with the old woman going into the cave is also very impressively shot and that one driving scenes with that pop song in the background has an airy feel to it.
In some ways I agree that there’s a bit of sensuality to it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: It’s the kind of film that feeling tired/relaxed when watching it isn’t a condemnation of it(although a share of moments in the first half could be patience testing), it’s the sort of film where you aren’t really aware of anything outside of watching the film when you watch it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I finally looked into a Weersathakul film, Tropical Malady. I don’t even know how to give a star rating for this film.
SuperMario
I'm still on the fence with Alice & Zouroku. Like the title suggests, the warm chemistry between those two are its strongest point, but those moments are far and few in between as the story progresses and I don't care one bit about the Red Queen storyline. I might drop this one if the story doesn't improve
SuperMario
@Lenlo: 3 episodes anf Berserk still hasn't grabbed me as much. Yep facial expressions are really off-putting
Lenlo
Man... the facial expression in Berserk for the 3D models are, ever so slowly, killing me.
AidanAK47
Alright. Tommarrow I will get out all those posts I am late on seeing as the impressions are all finished.
AidanAK47
SukaSuka still has me mixed. On one hand there really are some great ideas and some well executed moments. But some of the dialogue is a bit typical of a light novel and the fanservice is really shameless. The massage at the end of the episode was something the show could really do without.
Konstantinos Travlos
I am in love with RE:Creators. I have no idea if they will keep it as good, but these two first episodes did all the right things.
AidanAK47
Alright, Easter made me lazy so it's time to play catch up.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Puran: Or even Georgiou Nikolaidis while I'm at it, morning patrol is a great mood piece. Not familiar with the other guy.
Puran
@Kaiser: No Grammatikos recommendation? :)
SuperMario
I still enjoy Zero pretty much. I like the contrast between the beastfallen and Zero. The hilarious lines sound more like accidental to me, not the best product but I enjoy the ride so far
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree with everything you said. Apparently Haneke put Flashmob on hold because the main actress was conflicting in her schedule, so he decided to do Happy End instead
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Does the old man represent gritty anime of old? I don't know honestly I'm just throwing it out there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: In case you hadn't heard, Haneke dropped the Flashmob movie and is now doing one about the refugee crisis.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: To whoever will be playing Godard in that biopic, I'd wonder if they could capture how incredibly douchey he sounds irl lol
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: There is such a big divide between 50s/60s Bresson and 70s/80s Bresson.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Lathimos and Avaranas remind me in an odd way of Tarr in that they're the only Greek filmakers people seem to talk about , Check out Koundorous and Theodorous Angelopolous' works if you can.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Meh, I don't like that sort of overly on the nose social commentary some American films and tv shows do in recent years.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Godards extremely hit or miss with me. Hazanavicius did the artist I think, but I'd sooner recommend Biancnieves as a stronger example of a modern take on silent cinema or maybe a Guy Maddin film.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Lotznitza directed a gentle creature not Zvyagintsev, though the latter is a fantastic director, Leviathan's ending hit me very very hard, its gut punching and I appreciated that the return never went into too much detail regarding the father.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: off topic, I didn't realize Get Out having such buzz reception. It's coming here next week so I will get to watch it
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Michel Hazanavicius makes a biopic about Jean-Luc Godard and Anne Wiazemsky (the actress in Au Hasard Balthazard), which I think will be interesting. I considered The Lobster one of the best film out of that year so I anticipate his next movie a hell lot. Yep, I watched few movies from Andrey Zvyagintsev and he certainly is in my radar. Bleak, social commentary, technical impressive
AidanAK47
Oh, it's confirmed that was what was actually said in Japanese. Well...that's rather cringe worthy.
AidanAK47
@Anon, Can't say I am too fond of it myself. Though that arrow to the knee reference definitely sounds like something the translator added in.
Anonymous1026829
Holy shit Zero is hilarious. "I used to be a mercenary like you once. But then I took an arrow to the knee." "My magic is super weak so I need a powerful offering. Can you loan me your head please?" The comedy is so pointed and understated.
Vonter
I do like how contrasting Zelda is to Nier in the sense that. Zelda cares more about how the game plays and making the player have fun constantly but doesn't care about telling something. Nier Automata doesn't care what it throws to the player but cares a lot about it tells the things that happen to player.
Vonter
I think this is a hard game to score. Mainly because IMO the combat has wear out a bit do to the repetition and the sidequests have been a mixed bag with some being relevant to the plot or themes and some being just fodder to level up. On the other hand the game has a lot of implications, subtext and symbolism that so far has been enriching to reflect upon.
AidanAK47
@Vonter, Actually wrote up 4/5s of a review on Nier Automata but with the new season I haven't had time to finish writing the review. Though my thoughts on it are similar to yours.
Vonter
Nier Automata has a 10+ hour prologue. So far the game feels like it's more interested in delivering strong emotions than a compelling narrative, not that script is poor but seems disjointed in a way, circling around the themes of existentialism, purpose and truth without overexpositing about these things. It also some moments remind me of Fragile Dreams. Like the despair.
AidanAK47
The old man is the one I can't pin down. Been thinking he might represent the kind of anime that's critically lauded but sadly unpopular. Makes sense as he's one of the few on the opening that doesn't stand near ads for his anime. Or else he's a live action drama representative.
AidanAK47
Been wondering about the Re:Creators characters. We got the obvious representatives from Magical girl, Mecha, Light novel and video game. The knight girl looks like clear homage to Saber from Fate so a Visual novel representive? The psycho girl looks to be a chunni anime representative. And the guy who appeared at the end of ep 2 is clearly Shounen.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: The Ramsay one sticks out as the most interesting to me as does the lathimos one. I'm curious about that Russian one about the woman looking for her imprisoned husband as I'd like to watch more contempory Russian films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: If you can get passed the accents Ramsay did a strong piece of social realism in the 90s called Ratcatcher.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: I think the only Baumbach film I've seen is Frances Ha and I liked the new wavey feel it had. With The lobster and re-watching dogtooth I was able to get into Lathimos' pitch black humour alot more. I've never actually seen a hong-sang so film.
AidanAK47
@Amagi, I still really enjoy it but I do get what you mean. Looking at the series overall so far it does feel like there was lost potential.
Amagi
I honestly still don't know what to think of LWA. I wasn't a fan of the formularic first half but the second half doesn't really catch me either. I loved the first OVA though.
AidanAK47
Well I will be damned. That G Koh commenter managed to predict the inclusion of Yggdrasil in Little Witch Academia. Nicely done.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: sadly i won't make it this year. I wanna try the Toronto International Film Fest next time whenever I have a chance
SuperMario
@Kaiser:you heard about this year's Cannes selection?Overall it's solid, not many that scream "masterpiece" for me.Overall I'm exciting for Hong Sang Soo's new movies (he has 2 movies screening at Cannes and 1 already aired at Berlin.What the hell),and The Killing of the Scared Deer(Yorgos Lnthimos), You were never really here (Lynne Ramsay),Okja(Bong Joon Ho) and Meyerowitz Stories(Noah Baubach)
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm...just found out That Blame! 2017 is being done by a the Ajin director, not sure how I felt about that.
AidanAK47
Think this is the best time to end the series too as the difficultly was getting to be a bit too cheap.
AidanAK47
Lore wise it's pretty disappointing. Ending the game with an enemy that doesn't really have that much relevance. But Gameplay wise it was excellent. The final area was just beautiful.
Lenlo
Ringed City was a great piece of DLC and a good way to end the series imo.
AidanAK47
Dark souls sure can give you workout. Finally got around to finishing the ringed city DLC. Funny thing is that people were raving about how hard Midir was when I didn't have that much trouble with him. Gaol gave me some trouble but I managed it. Hardest was the demon prince and god I hate multi stage boss fights. Such a goddamn pain.
SuperMario
Atom still waiting for suitable subs. I swear to God, for a completist like myself the wait is unbearable, especially it should've been available already
HelghastKillzone
Yes it is.
Anonymous1020539
I mean...
Anonymous1020539
Re:producers is really great
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I can see myself chancing more of it, I kind of caught into its rhythm a bit.
AidanAK47
Novels are actually really short. About 90 pages long per volume. They really could cover this in a single cour.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, SukaSuka? From what I could tell it covered the first two chapters of the light novel. Each novel has 5 chapters. Though the first and last chapter are more of a prologue and epilogue respectively.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Actually if shuumatsu's first episode is going faster than the novel, roughly how much so? Its still obviously a slow burn in animated format but how much was covered in episode 1?
AidanAK47
Could have done without the huge infodump but otherwise still loving Re:Creators. Seeing a magical girl shocked over her own level of destructive power was great.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, I liked the use of music early on in shuumatsu and theres a good mood set up early on along with a good opening scene but the later parts of the episode except maybe for the after credits bit get a shrug from me.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario: Kado has made its hook, now it needs not to keep holding its cards and get going.
SuperMario
hmmm, don't know what to think about Kado ep2. Still good but I expected more
SuperMario
But really my mentality is that this site comes first. Getting more traffic and improve the site are my top priorities, then "what I wanna do for myself" comes later
SuperMario
@Travlos: guess you won't have to read me this season :). Haven't checked out the last episode of Kado yet but based from the first 2 episodes I think you'd enjoy that show.
Don’t worry. It’s something Aidan and me both agree on. We pretty much write for ourselves, otherwise we couldn’t have stayed this long. I get a chance to go off track once in a while to write something I wanna write.
Konstantinos Travlos
@SuperMario. I am definitely watching Shingeki no Koyjin 2, Shingeki no Bahamut 2, Re:Creators, Little Witch Academia, and probably Kado and Zero Kara. I may also do Zipang this season.
On the reaction reaction. What you say is ok. But remember, a hobby is something you do for yourself. There is a limit to how much you should care about the views of others. :)
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: Or if I can use a quote from Chang from Black lagoon : "A fragranced shit will forever still retain the smell of shit"
Lenlo
As most likely the biggest Berserk fan in this chatbox, its better but that doesnt make it good. Spraying fabreeze on crap doesnt make it any more appealing. Yet I will watch it anyways.
Anonymous1018231
You don't even know
Anonymous1018231
Lies Aidan it is soooo much better
Anonymous1017807
Tbh I'm enjoying Alice to Zouroku so much simply because I identify with the old guy's no-nonsense attitude. It's fun to see the annoying loli get put in her place. X.D
AidanAK47
Anyway Bam is supposed to be covering it. Seeing as he covered the first season.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I watched the first episode of the second season. Better? Yes, but only slightly.. It has all the same problems as the first season.
Anonymous1017501
and nobody's covering it lol
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