Posted by psgels on 27 March 2012 with categories: Anime Reviews, Another



So, Another: the season’s horror series. Let me put a fair warning out first, because for the past months I have seen a few people unpleasantly surprised by its true nature: this show is brutal. If you don’t want to watch gore, then stay as far away from this show as possible, because it contains a number of very graphic death scenes. This is particularly nasty, because it takes a while for it to reveal this nature.

A lot of the airtime in this series is spent on building up. It’s nowhere as extreme as with Blood-C, but still this show really puts emphasis on creating an atmosphere to draw the viewer in, only to toy with this in a gruesome manner. This is also what makes this show great: the contrast between surprisingly relatable characters, and the really dark and intense scenes.

With a lot of the bad horror flicks, the creators spend little time on the characters themselves, however this series avoids this very well. This goes in particular through a very solid lead couple: the two of them have creative backgrounds, they’re well fleshed out, and this series also allows the two of them to play off each other really well whenever they are together. There really is a lot of detail in their acting and dialogue.

The show also rocks in terms of mystery. The show evolves quite nicely as we learn more and more about what’s going on and the characters. The series loves to drop random hints and red herrings everywhere, which really spice up its scenario. This isn’t the series that answers everything, but the closure it gives at the end does wrap things up.

However, this series also is far from perfect. By far the biggest flaw is that it’s trying too hard at times. This series really wants to be atmospheric and haunting, but the twists it pulls at times are just to forced or obvious to take serious. Think of being in an art class, with one of the students suddenly painting “The Scream” of all things. I like symbolism, but there is a line for everything. What also seems to plague this series, especially in its second half, is that it tends to pull very convenient plot twists, just for the sake of wrapping everything up.

It’s understandable that this series wanted to get everything done in just 12 episodes, but that comes with a sacrifice. The cast of this series is huge, and unfortunately it just doesn’t have the time to flesh every single character out, even though this really could have improved this series considering the nature of the story. The same goes with the plot: with more episodes it could have wrapped things up more naturally, but that would have been at the expense of a few boring episodes. And really: the way Another is now, it’s a quick bite-sized horror show that despite its quiet moment never has a part that drags.

Storytelling: 8/10 – Excellent mystery, build-up and turns into very intense horror. Tries too hard at other times, though.
Characters: 8,5/10 – Very well acted main couple, but some of the side-characters could have been better fleshed out.
Production-Values: 8/10 – This isn’t as good as the standard that we’re used to from PA works, but this series still has its moment of very life-like animation.
Setting: 9/10 – I must say that the story behind everything is very creative, and this series knows it.

Yes, I’m also trying to experiment a bit with refining the ratings of these reviews a bit, because Another was a perfect example of a series that I liked better than most series I’d rate 82,5/100, but not as much as the series that I’d rate 85/100). Doing so would lead to a rating of 83,75/100, which is getting a bit ridiculously specific, so rounded a bit more sensibly this lead to the rating of 84/100. For me, this rating means a series with a lot of reasons to be worth watching and something I really enjoyed, which has something that holds it back from being really excellent, which describes Another perfectly for me.
Suggestions:
Ghost Hound
Higurashi no Naku Koro ni
Hitsuji no Uta

25 Responses

  1. Armpit says:

    Awesome review psgels.

    They took a series with young kids, and cutesy character designs , and still made a solid anime out of it. I feel it is a good sign for the future of anime.

    I also want to say i’m impressed with the romance, well if you count it as romance. Yet i loved the Mei/Koichi moments we had. Even without this series being a romance, the romantic elements in it still feel more real than most actual romance works.

    • tktym says:

      Totally agreed here, pretty much everything about this show was refreshing, compared to the fanservice/moe/otaku pandering that’s been going on in anime lately, even with some of the “wtf that doesnt make any sense!” moments I still enjoyed it more than 90% of the shows out this season

  2. Guigas says:

    84/100, huh. I’m surprised with such score. I was preety much certain that you’d give it a 70 or 72,5/100 for this one. Guess I don’t know your tastes as much as I thought :)

    • anim3spy says:

      HUH!
      If you compare Another(84) with Rinne no Lagrange(82.5). The score was as expected.
      This series has 3 good-great episodes and 9 excelent-awesome episodes. Rinne no Lagrange 1 disapoiting, 3 good-great episodes and 8 excelent-awesome episodes.
      How could he give this serie such a low score of 70-72.5.
      72,5/100: These series did quite a few things wrong here. They’ve got some nice parts, but overall they’re not worth it.
      70/100: Very flawed series that are only enjoyable if you’re really bored.

      • Guigas says:

        Oh, I know Psgels rate his stuff weekly, but I’m used to read only his final reviews about the anime, I don’t read any of his weekly posts so I didn’t know he was liking the progression of Another. So I was guessing he’d give a low score based on my intuitions only.

  3. Guigas says:

    BTW Another was quite bland IMO. Could have been a lot better…

    • confused otaku says:

      maybe you should try the manga? It’s better and more realistic I think (at least, everything makes sense in the manga .. for me at least)

      I drop the anime at episode 3 .. pick it up again because lots of people seems to like it, drop it again (for real this time) at episode 11 … I read in animesuki that the manga goes in a different direction than the anime, so I decide to give the manga a try and I definitely enjoy it till the end.

  4. Armpit says:

    Same could be said for all but a handful of anime. Almost all of them could of been a lot better.

  5. Vonter says:

    Is this series like Mirai Nikki? In the senes of madness, and over the top violence.

    • KaZuHiRo says:

      Not quite. This is more like Shiki/Blood-C/Mouryou no Hako/Ga-Rei Zero but more in the mystery/horror department.

  6. AidanAK47 says:

    I am sort of on the fence about the comment on the gore Psgels. Brutal isn’t a word I would use to describe it. Juvenile is more appropriate. The gore in blood c and Another can be compared to Mortal Kombat. Too over the top to be taken seriously. Most of the time I was just laughing at the absurdity of it rather than being horrified.

    I hate to say this as I don’t like the guy who stated this, but the deaths are too telegraphed. When someone is about to die you know they about to die. A lady gets into an elevator and you think “Yep, she’s dead.” You know how it’s going to happen and it’s just a matter of seeing the result. Horror isn’t good when it’s predictable. Horror leads you into a false sense of security and shocks you off balance when you least expect it. The best death in this series was the car one. That was brilliant. No eerie music. No clues. Just dead silence and you wait. You thought something might happen but you were not sure. You think you know how it will happen but it throws you something unexpected. It catches you off guard and That’s how the deaths should be. That my friend, is horror.

    As a mystery it doesn’t give the viewers enough information about the characters to make judgements. As a horror it’s too obvious. But as a slasher flick it’s a decent show. Mindless but enjoyable.

    • Armpit says:

      The umbrella death i think is the only one i would consider brutal. I agree with you though it is just mindless fun. The only reason i probably would of rated it as high as psgels is because i was very impressed with how the kept the characters from being total cliches. I loved that even though they had those cutesy type characters, they didn’t digress in to giving us random out of place fan service. I loved the subtle romance, and how it didn’t take anything away from the main story.

      Still there were a bunch of useless characters that we had no info on so who cares when they died. I had no sense of attachment to most of the characters. At least thats how i ended up feeling.

  7. Pax says:

    Well, this was most definitely an entertaining series, I especially liked the first half of the series, mostly since during that half I was actually thinking this might turn out to be quite a complex horror story, using superstition as a main theme and it turns out that there is no ghost, but in the end it’s still the old mysterious supernatural, that never really gets explained and is used just as an excuse to have this story of survival. As I said in the beginning, it was entertaining, but I’ve read and watched too many horror and this was nothing to write home about.

  8. Litho says:

    6.5/10 for me, and I’m being generous here since the atmosphere and sound direction in the early episodes was pretty good. The gore went from relevant in the earlier eps to borderline comedic (the unfunny kind) towards the end.

    Definitely not in the same league as Ghost Hound, but it did have its moments.

  9. Elk says:

    You should have suggested Shiki instead of Hitsuji no Uta. The author of Another is actually the husband of Shiki Author.

    The novel and manga is actually better than the anime imo. At least, they make more sense and the characters are much more fleshed out. The Anime tries to hard to make this like a thrill anime when the real deal is actually the mysteries.

    —Spoiler—

    In the Anime, it feels like Sakakibara is a cold guy who only cares for his love interest, Misaki. Like, everything’s fine as long as Misaki is beside me. That’s just too bad. The truth is, at the end of the series, Sakakibara cried for Reiko in front of her grave, wishing that he could keep on remembering her. Their relationship is much more sweet and it’s clearly shown that he considered Reiko like a mother he never had. But after a while, he accepted her death and made a promise with Misaki to visit the art museum in Tokyo after their graduation. They talked about this once in the rooftop before.

    It’s also indicated in the novel and manga that the extra people return because they have regrets and more than one people reject their death. Rejecting someone’s death is the same as rejecting one’s existence. That is why the most effective way to prevent the calamity is by ignoring someone. So the best way to end the curse once and for all is to not reject the death and accept it so the dead people can rest in peace. However, we all know that it’s a difficult thing to do for the mourning people and so the curse continues to exist.

    • Pafiume says:

      Thanks for that little extra! I wish they had put that in, it really would have closed things up. But I guess they didn’t have time. A shame.

  10. Pafiume says:

    I loved this show. Marathoned it yesterday and something about the atmosphere just sucked me in. For me, it was perfect. But I do see things wrong with it, like Psgels was saying the characters could have been fleshed out a bit more, and that maid just killing everyone in the hotel was stupid. Like… I feel like that should have been explained a LITTLE, I understand that she probably just went mad, or was controlled by something, but it was just random and I thought a little stupid. I pitied her for being sucked in, though.

    Beyond that what bugged me was the killing. All the deaths either had super slow motion scenes (like the first one) which just drew it out to the point of me laughing, or they showed how the kid was going to die a good five minutes before it happened, so I knew it was going to happen, and as it got closer I started laughing again! Even those deaths still made me jump or shudder a bit, though, and there were some good unexpected ones.

    But shit. That homicidal maniac voice acting in those last two episodes was great. I fucking loved it. I would so recommend this show.

  11. jreding says:

    Psgels, while I generally agree with your rating of the production values at 8/10 I think the backgrounds and the level of detail would have deserved mentioning. The animation itself was – except for a few action scenes – rather subpar and someteimes even awkward. But I can’t remember a show in the last seasons which consistently had such a high level of detail both in the characters and in the backgrounds!

  12. kero says:

    I was interested in watching the story progress and liked it until the ending which I really could not believe in. From reading the snippets posted it sounds like they ruined the original story in this aspect. There were some great scenes I think, I still love that dream dance sequence and at the start it was interesting to see how the classmates would die.

    The reveal made sense of why it was Reiko, so in that respect I was not disappointed.

    I’m not sure how I would rate this when compared to Blood-C. Wait no I do. It was better for most of the way with better characters.. but Blood-C had a better ending that made me wanted to watch the following battle.

  13. Mike Stevens says:

    The genre of Another is my favorite, gore and suspense, so for me this anime was just incredible.

    Something they didn’t really explain i thought was the reason why people die. If you remember in the first episode this one lady said “You need to act like a group instead of an individual.” If you think back to every death the person who died did something that was against the will of the whole class. Without this knowledge all the deaths look random and pointless but it does have a meaning behind it.

    The one thing that this series did amazingly was its visuals. Good god there were some beautiful scenes and when they show people in a restaurant you see other people walk around and pay for their meals like normal people would do. In other anime they don’t really try to do anything with the background characters, sometimes they even just put stick figures but this series by far put some great work into the background animation.

    I would rate this higher for myself but that’s because this genre appeals to me. I think your score of 84 is right on the mark. The story line and background story to characters could have been better. But all in all i think it deserved an 84 as well.

  14. Space Eater says:

    This anime was the best horror/suspense I watched. The characters are believable, plot twists, subtle hints and scares, Another had it all. Definitely gory, but its not so much that it makes it distasteful, like some animes that just go off handle and spill gallons of blood and guts.

  15. Janfred says:

    Best horror anime for me, I would rate this 90+ for good characters and good twist of events/facts ^^

  16. Mirai says:

    i give this anime 10/10 because for me this anime fit my taste perfectly! and thank God there is no ecchi in this anime! :)

  17. Anonymous Zee says:

    This show was amazing and the best horror anime yet for me to watch. I thought it would have some romance in it, but I guess not. Other than that, it does a well good job of making me have chills down my spine..

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They used to realease them like single American comic book issues in the west.
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@Animemosh: lol I have daily political discussion with my Marxist-Leninist father just like that =)
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Oh I should state, even though I'm not as bothered by the modern setting, I actually do prefer the cold war narrative.
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@Animosh: The documentries name was Battle of Chile by Patricio Guzman.
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Especially since I don't think that the typical BF audience is of a kind that would lose interest because a series is taking place in the past. It was just written for the 80s, people can't just change that without changing the story itself to some degree.
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@Animosh: I thought the anime did such a good job with Shio's backstory , that I didn't miss what was omitted. The anime is now up to date with the scans. I do agree that Satou's obsession with Shio is non-pedophilic but I think the scene itself is kind of going to give the wrong message.
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@Animosh: one of the many reasons why I would have prefered Banana Fish's original setting.
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By the way, apparently the backstory of Shio's mother - which supposedly is really tragic - was largely skipped. Guess I'll have to read the manga.
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I get what they're going for, recreating the ritual and all, but I also thought the Shio-Satou moment was a bit forced. I still think their relationship is platonic though. Satou has never been shown to lust after Shio: she just fills her with warmth and happiness. They're more like messed up siblings than (romantic) lovers.
Animosh
@Kaiser: sounds interesting! Chile is an excellent example of the kind of Cold War intervention that I really don't see happening today. Although you never know with an impulsive narcissist in the White House.
Animosh
End of monologue. Sorry about this. :p
Animosh
Long story short: I think the Banana Fish conspiracies fail to adequately represent the current situation. At the very least, it fits the Cold War world order much better.
Animosh
That includes the US (backing the Kurds and the rebels), but also Turkey and the Arab states (Sunni rebels), Russia and Iran (Assad), and so on and so forth. You can't act like this is the fault of one party. Hell, I'd say Russia and Assad are more responsible for failing to a peaceful resolution when they had the chance.
Animosh
As for Syria, it's a mess, but the US is only one of many parties responsible. And oil isn't particularly important in this conflict. It's a civil war that's been made much worse by the influx of money and weapons from many different parties vying for regional influence.
Animosh
So what does it do? It gives military and financial backing to militias with shared interests (which is much less than Russia does, by the way), orders drone strikes, and perhaps the occasional tactical strike. But overthrowing countries and setting up puppet regimes? I don't see it happening. That's basically declaring war on the other big powers.
Animosh
And even when it does intervene militarily, it rarely goes all out. The US has learned from Iraq and Afghanistan. It doesn't want to be dragged into another endless conflict, or see its efforts end in another brutal civil war that destabilizes the region.
Animosh
So although the US occasionally still intervenes militarily in other countries' affairs, other means of pressure are now more popular. The sanctions against Iran and North Korea are a good example of this.
Animosh
The current landscape is much more complex. America is still powerful, of course, but relatively speaking it is in decline, and that means it can get away with much less. Today's world is closer to a multipolar world, with many sides fighting for influence. And because the ideological conflict is much less pronounced, the US is much less willing to go against its purported values.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Coincidentally I recently watched a series of Chilean documentaries regarding the murder of Salvador Allende and the installation of the Pinochet Junta.
Animosh
And that meant both that America was far more powerful than it is now, and that much more intervention was considered acceptable - including shamelessly backing dictators that oppressed and exploited their people. After all, a defeat meant evil would prevail.
Animosh
Obviously the US still interferes in other countries. Quite a lot, actually. But there's a big difference between its current policy and that during the Cold War. Back then the geopolitical landscape was very different. It was bipolar, with two big Isms (capitalism and communism) fighting it out.
Animosh
@anon: not sure if this is the right place for a political discussion, but whatever. I like politics, so here we go.
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*was no exception
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@Animosh: If, out of the many moments in happy sugar life that I'd consider unsettling, it would be the one's with the aunt and this weeks episode was an exception. That last part of the episode will be interpreted as shoujo-ai bait by people though.
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Looking forward to Angels of death next week, I think we're getting answers, glad to get answers on bad guy even if he is a simple villain.
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Now this is an interesting coincidence as last night I just got done watching a documentary about cyberwarfare against Iran.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Thats alot more detailed than what I was going to say. I was just going to say that it reflects current foreign policy.
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however the current stalemate in Syria is a reflection of the intransigence of the monied elite to not let go of ill-gotten gains, constantly provoking conflict with Russia/Assad/Iran
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Its a documented fact the US/EU promoted the Arab Spring/ISIS rebellions and it was stopped by patriots with a conscience
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replace with the mexican cartels/Hezbollah, and oil money promised to Cheney-connected Genie enerrgy
Anonymous2808488
its a pretty accurate description of the current reality minus a couple silly things like the mafia and mind control drugs
Anonymous2808488
You guys realize this plot is unfolding in Syria just replace drugs with oil money
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Its hokey in the now, but in the original context the series was written, the Cold War, I think it could fit really well.
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@Kaiser: what felt awkward to you? I thought the pumpkin stuff in particular was pretty hilarious. Eiji is an evil guy. :p
Animosh
Yeah, the conspiracy stuff feels a bit wacky in the present. But in the context of the Cold War, it makes perfect sense. The USA supported plenty of bloody coups after all, especially in Latin America. Hell, they even backed the Taliban in their war against Russia.
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http://kissmanga.com/Manga/Red
https://manganelo.com/manga/red_naoki_yamamoto Two history manga, wonder if they'll be fully translated.
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I imagine most will probably agree with you anon though. I have alien taste/opinions. I also love conspiracy stuff =P
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@Anon: Originally, in the manga version of that part, it was attacking communism in south America.
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I don't know; I kinda find the whole Middle East stuff a bit hokey; maybe that's just me.
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Im about to watch it. Looking forward to it
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I know its only one line, but that they still mention skip and shorter, even its just their names, at least the show keeps them in mind.
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With episode 12, Banana fish has successfully contemporized its political/cospiracy aspect for me . Eiji is semi-uselful. Humour in this episode for the first time feels awkward, fast pace kind of means that the quieter slower scenes , though I still enjoy them, feel slotted in.
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Most of my emotions this week came because of the original and my love of it, not this one
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Plebs, not combining both into a single dessert.
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I'm talking about that sweet saccharine Chocolate Mousse, the Ganache, or the Chocolate Gâteau. Your puny muffin stands no chance. Mwahaha!
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Blasphemy. As a proud American, I can't stand for anything less than pure unadulterated diabetes-inducing sugar in chocolatey cake form. Anything less is an insult to my great nation. /s
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@anon2801739: that's a nice analogy but I can't say I agree as I prefer chocolate muffin much more than chocolate cake :)))
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Steins;gate 0 is all potential but generally it's wasted. Whenever it actually seems promising they manage to jump plot points to boring nonsensical melodrama for a century. It was supposed to be a chocolate cake. Instead what we got was a muffin with tiny chocolate chips buried few and far between. Yeah it's still sweet at some points, but most of the time you're chewing through pointless fluff.
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Like I said in my last post on it I think, the pacing is fucked
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I did like that the lab members finally acted like scientists again, methodically thinking through their options and all, and there were some pretty touching individual moments and nicely tied up ends. But mostly I'm just annoyed by all the unfulfilled potential of this show.
Animosh
I also hated the backtracking in the beginning. Don't make such a big deal of The Return if you're going to throw it out of the window in the next episode.
Animosh
I really don't understand Steins;Gate's pacing. It slows down to a trickle in the largely irrelevant middle part, and now that things are finally getting somewhat interesting again it just speeds through everything without building things up properly? I don't get it. And how on Earth are they going to resolve everything satisfactorily in one episode?
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Reinhard (old series). Ash is interesting and depicted well, but not close to Reinhard. There is something noble in Reinhard, something beyond charisma.
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In a charisma battle between our two favorite Blond Boys (doing what blond boys do), who'd win: Reinhard or Ash?
Kaiser-Eoghan
Kind of felt this is what prelude penultimate episode/calm before the storm episode should be and I liked quite liked the ginko and souya scene, but I'm still eh, I shrug at this.
Vonter
After watching some more Star vs. the forces of evil. I'm getting Jitsu wa Watashi wa vibes. The Sailor Moon-like character episode was cute.
Kaiser-Eoghan
The bullying arc in sangatsu made me want to shootup the school.
Lenlo
I will admit, the family life stuff is less engaging than the crippling depression, but I dont think that would hit as hard with out the relaxing bits in between. Dont want to overload the audience.
Anonymous2791561
3-gatsu no Lion has its ups and downs; its ups are the intense emotional drama or shogi matches, while it's downs are the more relaxed slice of life food porn stuff. When I say up and down, I don't necessarily mean good and bad, just more about the intensity. I personally found that I could enjoy both styles, but sometimes I'd find the slice of life stuff dragging on.
SuperMario
Well, I regard 3-gatsu as one of the best character-writing in this medium in recent years. As for shaft, I'm their fan but even me was worried when I learnt Shaft adapting this. They did a nice job thankfully
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though I was glad that the comedy becomes more reigned in later on.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I got used to the tonally discordant humour eventually, accepting that the show essentially exists in two plains.
Kaiser-Eoghan
In tsukiyomi moon phase Shinbo made some of the shots look like photos, which was cool given the protaganists profession. Their weird style also was a good fit for an oddball show like Zetsubou-sensei.
Lenlo
I just finished the 4th episode, and so far I am torn on Akari. Im still not sure what to make of some of these relationships. I love the permeated depression theme in every episode though.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wonder if it will get a third season.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I want Akari to be my mom.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Hmmm only 9 out of 13 volumes adapted, which means the anime hasn't adapted the best bit.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Unfortunate that the sangatsu manga doesn't update often.
Kaiser-Eoghan
While I haven't seen it, I heard that vocaloid thing shaft adapted was very poorly suited to their style.
Lenlo
If a drama can actually make me feel something, actual emotions, then its a success. But it takes a pretty good, well made drama to do that.
Lenlo
I am very particular about my Drama'
Lenlo
Im planning on burning through the whole thing in the next few days. Maybe then ill try the manga, since there is probably more
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I didn't think your lie in April or sangatsu would actually be your thing. They're very drama-ey.
Lenlo
Basically im with Kaiser on this one. As for Shaft, I am very show by show with them. I couldnt stand Nisekoi, yet Sangatsu's color palette and way of drawing faces really has me
Lenlo
See, so far it has a very Mushishi/Fune wo Amu/Your Lie in April feel to me. I love these kinds of things animated, because I feel the music and color-choices really help set things in the mood.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Mario@Lenlo: We can be Kanabros for life all three of us ;)
Kaiser-Eoghan
But in general I do think shafts style lends itself at its best to more comedic work.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I actually felt that shafts style elevated their adaptation of Sangatsu. I find it easier to watch these slow paced shows than reading them. Also Kana Hanazawa.
SuperMario
Shaft's style can be a hit or miss with the audience, however. While I don't mind that, I still would recommend you try the manga instead
SuperMario
Oh, so you still have, like, 40 episodes left
Lenlo
Huh. Finally got around to March Comes in Like a Lion, gotta say. 3 episodes in, its pretty good
Kaiser-Eoghan
Speaking of it though, I wish they'd get that proposed new Vampire hunter D anime off the ground.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Though my memory on this is extremely fuzy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Y'know, I saw an article there on anime news network referring to the second vampire hunter D film, I know I watched it years and years ago, loved it, but I forget the plot, thinking about it now, how was the dude D was after supposed to survive without blood after buggering off to space alone with the girl?
Anonymous2786239
Amen to that
Anonymous2785164
I read blogs to see opinions on anime, not to read about how blog writer is much better than some youtuber I probably have never heard of :D
Anonymous2785164
Anyway, don't any of you guys let that get up to your head :p I'm also annoyed whenever media producers start mocking each other and setting themselves up as better.
Anonymous2785164
Nothing is more annoying to me than nerd doing the stereotypical nerd voice to mock people
Anonymous2785164
Either way, I kinda dislike majority geek youtubers because I find them all to be hypocrites. Like for example, complaining about commentors correcting them or nitpicking them when all of them are nitpickers themselves :P
Anonymous2785164
That said, he has habit of commenting on things way too early only to later on to be proven wrong by end of the anime :P
Anonymous2785164
That said, I don't remember Mother's Basement being that bad besides that he for most parts really sucks when talking about video games despite apparently having studied game development
Anonymous2785164
@AidanAK47: I don't actually like any of anime youtubers. They all seems to be pervs to me and I'm actually rather prude person :p
Anonymous2785164
Hmm this chat is being buggy again and I can't change username from anonymous right now :P ANnoying~
SuperMario
@Lenlo: Readers will enjoy us more if we can throw some meme references... proof that we're still not out of touch with current trends ^^
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Lenlo: I mean the opposite, the posts here are good because they don't use quips. They aren't fanboyish either.
Lenlo
Are you telling me I need to insert more quips. jokes and one-lines into my posts? Cause I can do that
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: Drop grand blue if its taking up too much time, I know you are busy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Thats why I enjoy reading blog articles like on here. I feel the writers on here never sound like awful fanboys or quiplords.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*I have
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think its down to an idea have about vloggers/youtubers, that the videos will be full of unfunny quips and unrestrained fanboyism due to the guy doing the video can't keep himself in check.
Lenlo
Digibro isnt worth listening to imo
Kaiser-Eoghan
Never even really pursued listening to digibro. Although I probably should listen to eyepatchwolf apparently.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I should say the anime youtubers I've actually watched pertain to: Gigguk, one video by blackanimecritic, a few countdowns by Mistychronoxia and Animeman . I think I've watched maybe two of glass reflections reviews.
Anonymous2781300
I don't know, r/anime probably is also not the best sources; Youtube and Reddit are just the places I generally go to for large-scale anime discussion
Anonymous2781300
Oh my previous comment didn't post; basically I was saying that Anitube isn't super representative of audience popularity, at least as a whole, but it might offer some insight to at least a portion of it.
Anonymous2781300
*audience you're looking at: there's the Japanese audience and Western audience, but I feel like there's also like, another half of the world that most be people don't consider.
Anonymous2781300
It kind of depends which audience you
Kaiser-Eoghan
I don't even watch gigguks videos anymore.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've never really cared enough to overexplore any of those anime youtube critics for the most part.
Kaiser-Eoghan
If someone keeps talking about something, eventually it'll sometimes work out and get through, then I'll at least have to see some of it.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Aidan: I watched it because you kept saying not enough people were watching it.
AidanAK47
@Masky, cause Mothers basement did a video on it? Well hopefully it gets it some attention. Don't really like MB though. I mean "Gurren Meets Earthbound"? Jesus Christ.
Masky
Hmm, seems like Planet With is slowly getting more attention to it
Lenlo
I know im Shonen trash, but Hero Aca continues to be fantastic.
Animosh
You know, one person ends up broken through no fault of her own, and then ends up hurting herself and/or others to protect the only happiness she knows. And so the cycle continues.
Animosh
I thought Shio's backstory was really sad too. But yeah, although the show (and many of its characters) can be silly a lot of the time, there's a beating heart behind all of the craziness. Its main characters all have believable - if misguided - motivations, and the show portrays the cyclical nature of trauma very well.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: I think the scene with satou breaking down near episodes end were the standout. I often laugh at this show for its overthetopness, then makes me feel like a jerk by pulling something depressing.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Escaflowne ended too soon and abruptly. I haven't seen rayearth but I have read the manga, so I don't know if the anime original content is as good.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I've noticed that the voice acting tends to be worse in reverse harems then regular harems.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Regarding otome, one of the worst cases though had to be hakuouki though, just a bag of complete wasted potential.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: While I didn't dislike Red river, I have the unpopular opinion of preferring Basara because I found the central relationship more interesting.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Amagi: Yes that was babylonia no shishi.
Amagi
I wish we could get isekai like Rayearth, Now and Then or Escaflown again.
Amagi
Sadly these series usually fail elsewhere, with the typical problems shoujo and otome series tend to have
Amagi
@SuperMario: strangely enough this is somewhat typical for shoujo whereas generic isekai can't get off that fake-rpg spleen. There is also a shoujo in which feMC gets transported into some old turkish setting and one with babylonia (think the latter was done by that mangaka that also did Cantarella).
Kaiser-Eoghan
Theres also a shoujo manga called babylonia no shishi.
SuperMario
maybe it's one of the earliest example of isekai if you don't regard isekai setting as strictly fantasy world.
SuperMario
" Or even something egyptian, babylonic, or mayan." -> actually they did just that. One of the old classic shoujo, Crest of the Royal Family, is about a girl transported into Egyptian royal family. https://myanimelist.net/manga/5284/Ouke_no_Monshou?q=Crest of the Royal Family
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think the success is, if a series can distract you and still make you feel something, even if there should have been more to the characters.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Animosh: Beyond Arthur and Dino, who always came off to me as "the bad guys to be defeated", I think I might have been so into Ash that I didn't really pay as much attention to his character development as you and Mario did.
Animosh
Happy Sugar Life was pretty intense again. It's not subtle, but it's certainly effective. For me, anyway.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*gamer
You could see that he probably enjoyed online games and knew his stuff, wheras it seemed in sword art the writer felt liking he was shitting on everything.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'm not much of a game and I know it was a fantasy show, but I guess log horizon is isekai, but in that one from what I saw, I thought the writer seemed to be making more of an effort.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But given how lazy isekai tends toward, while yes a scifi world would be a nice change up, the inherent genre laziness would probably holdback on properly building that world.
Anonymous2771364
Why Isekai are limited to the fantasy worlds? What about one with a creative retro futuristic setting (like Jetsons, John Carter or Flash Gordon). Maybe a western setting. Or even something egyptian, babylonic, or mayan. Anything at this point will be genius if done right.
Anonymous2771364
@Kaiser-Eoghan - Didn't watch Gate but it wasn't kind of like that? Adapting an alien fantasy world to the real world?
Kaiser-Eoghan
On a total tangent. Imagine an isekai that dealt with immigration issues ;)
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