Posted by psgels on 3 June 2012 with categories: Fate/Zero

This show picked a really good use for its “calm before the storm”-episode: some last-minute character backgrounds that give a really different dimension to the characters involved. Waver and Irisviel had some very shocking plot twists here.

Waver had a surprisingly genuine moment with his grandfather, or the guy he used magic to turn into a grandfather. I’m not sure if it was revealed why he had to do this, but he probably used this as a guise to hide out from the other masters and servants. This was both an interesting revelation and a great way to flesh him out at the last minute, because you could really see that that talk made a huge impact on Waver.

And then there was Irisviel’s death, which eventually turned into that really trippy scene where ends up in the holy grail or something? Was she made specifically so that this would happen? And so how did she end up with Kiritsugu of all people? Did he make her, or was she created by somebody else, who left behind that huge pile of dead Irisviel’s bodies?
Rating: ** (Excellent)

10 Responses

  1. Cytrus says:

    The Einzbern family is responsible for preparing the grail vessels, in this case Irisviel. So yes, she was supposed to die eventually to become the grail.

    She ended up with Kiritsugu because the Einzberns aren’t good at fighting directly (they are mostly alchemists), so they hired Kiritsugu to do stuff for them.

    The dead Irisviels are failed attempts at grail vessels.

    There is something off about this war’s grail, though…

  2. martin says:

    waver and rider’s saccharine moment made my eyes act all unmanly.

  3. AidanAK47 says:

    As Cytrus said. The Einzberns prepare the vessel for the holy grail. That vessel is Irisviel. Well, to be specific her heart is the vessel for the holy grail. Even if her body dies she will still become the holy grail.

    She ended up married to Kiritsugu because that was the deal he made with the Einzberns. The Einzberns give him a artifact to summon a strong servant and participate in the grail war as there representative. And her marries Irisviel and provides his seed to make the next Homunculus in case he fails to get the grail. It was already a big decision for a proud family who was obsessed with there bloodline to take in an outsider. Needless to say they aren’t to happy about it. Marrying him into the family was probably an excuse to make it that an Einzbern obtained the holy grail. Even if the name was tacked on.

  4. Juno says:

    The explanation behind Waver’s spell is pretty simple. He lives in England, so when coming to Japan, he needed shelter. Thus, he put the spell on the older couple whose real grandson was gone (away or dead, I don’t remember).

    And like others say here, Irisviel’s heart is the vessel. Though this was subtly hinted from the beginning, it was obvious to those who played/watched Fate/Stay Night, when Ilyasviel (the daughter) became the grail–which was also referenced here when she dreamt that she became a “cup.” I’m not sure what was with the scene with all the failed Irisviel bodies, though.

    God, though. That scene with Kirei and Irisviel… I simply cannot get over what happened. I knew this would have a sad or tragic ending, but that was just too much for me. I got really attached to her. ;~;

  5. Cytl says:

    UTW translated the Drama CDs. They explain a little better some of the concepts behind the Einzberns.

  6. wicked says:

    If I remember right, the role of the Einzberns homunculi(Iri and Ilya) should’ve been explained when she was alone with Maiya. as far as how Kiritsugu and Einzebern came together, the ed was pretty much it.

    also Einzberns homunculi all should resemble one another since they are “made” from the same “model”, and if fact share memories in regards to the Grail. The fail bodies should represent those those that have failed in their quest to complete the third magic. I think the one with the evil smile and the black essence is self explanatory

    • Juno says:

      I’m not going to ask for spoilers, but… is the explanation behind the many failed vessels in the Heaven’s Feel route of the Fate/Stay Night game or other material? I still don’t get what the smiling one was about…

      • wicked says:

        I dont think so, since Irisveil should be the first homunculus that was also the vessel(doesnt mean Einsbern did not use Homunculus in the wars before since the Iri and Illya were base off an original Homunculus of the Einzbern family), and there arent as many grail wars as the failed bodies shown. I think it’s meant as a symbolic representation of the failures, since to the Einzberns, the Holy Grail was never complete in the previous grail wars.

        point is somewhere along the the way, the Grail system stopped functioning correctly and that led to the events of the Fate series and why the ultimate end of the grail in all 3 scenarios of staynight were destruction.

        • AidanAK47 says:

          Actually the Drama CD tells that there was a point where the vessel maker left Irisveil into the disposal yard for failed creations in the forest depths to test her durability for Kirisugu. She was throw out in the freezing cold naked so it’s possible that the sight of the pile of dead Irisviel’s bodies is one she actually saw.
          There is nothing that says that the Einsberns don’t go through trail and error.

  7. kero says:

    freaky ending, the bit with the childlike hands reaching for her and pulling her down reminded me of Fullmetal Alchemist

Leave a Reply

Shoutbox

Name:
Email:
For:  
Mail will not be published
  • Emma
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 10:10 AM)
    I’ve noticed Aidan you’ve had no additional words on rolling girls, yatterman night, Junketsu no Maria. Also I would definitely gladly read your Garo posts.
  • Bam
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:59 AM)
    Fumoffu was considerably funnier than the actual show, but it only paid off if you were somewhat invested in the main series.
  • Emma
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:50 AM)
    Man, making favourites list is so hard, I needed to fit some shoji Kawamori, Asano Inio and Tsutomu Nihei on the list…
  • Emma
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:47 AM)
    Side question, is anyone still reading black lagoon?
    The new arc isn’t the strongest the series has been at.
  • Emma
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:45 AM)
    I ragged on about full metal panic pages back…you know I really wanted to like that I really did but after 6-8 episodes instead of a cool mech show I was bored by an unfunny comedy.
  • Bam
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:38 AM)
    @Emma: yeah that was weird. Almost as strange as Alita not getting a long-running OVA series. But I think one day Alita will eventually be readapted as its too much of a goldmine to not be dug into. But you know some staff call Texhnolyze a spiritual successor to Blame!.
  • Bam
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:34 AM)
    There’s a megacut of Gargantia that removes all the festival episodes and the sagging middle arc and moves bits and pieces around with reworked dialogue that is far far superior to the original show. It’s crazy how bad implementation ruins shows that have all the essential good parts.
  • Emma
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:32 AM)
    @Bam: I feel so dashed that blame only got that 45 minute ova…
    He got a proposed zombie manga which got cancelled before it even got started =<
  • Emma
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:30 AM)
    While Macross zero may not have been the highest point of the franchise I almost felt Gargantia was a confused poor mans version of it.
  • Bam
    (Wednesday, Mar 4. 2015 09:28 AM)
    Tsutomu Nihei’s works are criminally underutilized in the anime industry. I remember how hard I fangirled out when I heard the rumors of a Madhouse black&white Biomega anime that they called a ‘moving manga’, but all of that dissipated into thin air unfortunately =/

1 · 2 · 3 · 4 · 5 · »

Featured Posts

Durarara!!X2 – 08

No animation issues this time around thankfully. Really like the touch of Irelands flag on the cup Shinra gave the girl at their apartment. Sometimes it’s easy to forget that Celty is indeed Irish. Probably one of the few Irish characters in anime. And here we learn that the one who told the little girl […]

Death Parade – 08

Why do you do this to me death parade? You dodge your true potential and instead focus on background exposition or, of all things, comedy. Then just as I was about to lose interest and give up, you present the best episode of the series so far. Now this, this is what I was talking […]

Durarara!!X2 – 07

I think the problem with this episode was evident right from the opening scene. I had to do a double take when seeing a very poorly drawn Simon. I even questioned whether it was a new character entirely. But no, the animation budget took a nosedive. Or the guy who was to do the inbetweens […]

Death Parade – 07

Why is the girl from the last episode still around? This episode brought up three rules about arbiters. The third rule, about arbiters not having emotions, Is odd to me. For the arbiters we have been introduced to are very emotional. They state that Decim was given human emotions yet he is the least emotional […]

Durarara!!X2 – 06

Turns out that assassination attempt got Celty to see her life flash before her eyes. I suppose taking a tumble off a moving motorcycle is a fatal thing. But well in the last arc we saw two people survive getting blown away at about the length of a football field. So I cannot say I […]

Death Parade – 06

Death Parade in a risky move has taken things in a new direction. A daring adventurous move that no one expected. And it is…absolutely terrible. Death Parade, what happened? Did no one read over the script and do a shaft head tilt in wonder? Was there not an Animator who said “Excuse me sir. But […]

Durarara!!X2 – 05

We have yet another new character entering the show. A motorcycle gang leader who has a massive fondness for woman. Personally I am not a fan of him. His brand of female overprotective crazy just seems like a downgrade from the shows already huge cast of crazies. He looks like a character whose introduction serves […]

Death Parade – 05

If asked about how I think of death parade so far, my answer would have to be divided. On one hand the premise is rife with potential and it does have moments where it rises above the bar. But it also seems confused as to what it wants to be. We have death games between […]

Durarara!!X2 – 04

The current story arc ends abruptly and unexpectedly. I am rather surprised that it came here. From how this was portrayed it felt this would be a longer arc than it turned out to be. So with its end I must think back and wonder. What exactly did this arc accomplish? We got introduced to […]

Latest Reviews

Clipboard06

Nerawareta Gakuen Review – 84/100

Let me talk a bit about Ryousuke Nakamura. For a long time, this guy was my hero. He started off as an assistant director to Monster, in my opinion a big reason why that series got such a ridiculously solid adaptation, and then in 2008 he came with the groundbreaking Mouryou no Hako. No TV-series […]

Clipboard03

Kick Heart

Okay, so I didn’t want to exit 2013 without having seen Masaaki Yuasa’s Kick Heart. It’s only twelve minutes anyway, and I consider him to be one of the best anime directors out there. The story here is pretty silly and mostly serves as a backdrop, so I mostly want to talk about the nature […]

Clipboard01

Kyousogiga Review – 90/100

Everyone’s taste is different, and that’s a wonderful thing because that allows us to have so many different forms of media that all aim toward their own niche. My blog is obviously written from the perspective of my own taste, and even when a show doesn’t cater to it (which is nearly always), I love […]

Clipboard04

Ore no Nounai Sentakushi ga, Gakuen Lovecome o Zenryoku de Jama Shiteiru Review – 80/100

Noucome! You do not want to know how long I have been waiting for a series like this. More than half a decade, at the very least. Finally a series comes along and puts the incredibly overused harem genre in its place. And it actually does it well. Thank you! So to elaborate: the harem […]

Clipboard01

Pokemon: The Origin Review – 75/100

Normally I try to avoid spoilers with these reviews, but screw it, it’s Pokemon. Pokemon The Origin is a bomb of nostalgia. If you haven’t played Pokemon Red, Blue or Green, then you will not enjoy this one slight bit. This really is made as pure undilluted fanservice for the fans of the first games. […]

Clipboard08

Tamayura – More Aggressive Review – 75/100

I’m not going to dedicate a post for my impression for the final three episodes of this series. It was just too boring to write much about. I guess that that gives a pretty accurate indication of what I think about this series. Right at the start of Tamayura’s second season, I asked one question: […]

Clipboard04

Silver Spoon Review – 86/100

When Noitamina started airing two series per season, it was amazing. It’s a timeslot that on average tends to be aimed at a much older audience than usual, and having two series with the same mentality definitely helped to bring more diversity to anime overall. Unfortunately it’s a schedule that could not be kept up […]

Clipboard07

Yondemasuyo, Azazel-San Z Review – 82,5/100

Reviewing a comedy sequel usually is quite simple: in most cases it just drops the bomb and runs out of inspiration, and in rare cases it actually manages to stay hilarious. The tricky thing with these kinds of series is that you need to remain funny, and you need to have the inspiration for that. […]

Clipboard05

Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet Review – 81/100

Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet tells the storyline of a planet that is completely submerged, with only giant ships residing on the surface, while one of those ships gets visited by this guy and his AI-mecha from this very technologically advanced civilization. Yes, this show is about world building. What this show managed to do […]