Posted by psgels on 28 July 2012 with categories: Summer 2012 Kaleidoscope

#1: Phi Brain – 41: This was undoubtedly the single best episode of the second season. Finally the creators actually used the fact that Orpheus Rings distort the minds of their wearers well, by making them say things that they normally wouldn’t do. At this point, Ana Gram definitely is the most heartfelt character of the entire series, and the one who suffered the least in this series’ attempts to degenerate the entire cast, and this episode really showed that. – Excellent+)

#2: Kokoro Connect – 03: How? Why? When? Is this still the same show? Is this really Silver Link? With this kind of good acting? Seriously, this was a massive improvement and it went quite deep into its different characters. I’m impressed. – (Excellent)

#3: Hunter X Hunter – 40: Finally! The Yorkshin arc has officially started now after forty bloody episodes of waiting! The calling out names still is a bit childish, but the rest of this episode was excellent build-up. The new characters are all slightly different from what they used to be in the 1999 series, but they can definitely make this work. – (Excellent)

#4: Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon – 15: Well, this was a typical Horizon episode: it really doesn’t make any sense once you start thinking about it, but what went on was pretty damn cool and creative. This definitely was an interesting way to portray negotiations. There’s just one thing: a girl pretending to be a guy in order to avoid gender racism is a pretty interesting subplot. But in the context of this series? Really? – (Great)

#5: Tari Tari – 04: Well, thanks to Wakana and the three musicians this was the best episode of Tari Tari so far. It was quite heart-warming, with the only mitigating factor being the dead mother that has been done to death. Kids, whatever you do, don’t ever get kids! If you do, there is a 50% chance that you’ll die within a few years. – (Great)

#6: Total Eclipse – 04: A simple episode, and the side-cast still is stereotypical, but the two leads… they’ve got interesting chemistry together. It’s a bit overblown and angsty, but it can work. – (Good)

#7: Binbou-Gami ga – 03: This is one that I missed in my catch-up streak last weekend. Overall, comedy is incredibly subjective, but with this show I notice that much more, as people have many different reactions here. This episode was cute. It had “trying too hard” written all over it, but had some good jokes. The yelling however has gotten very dull right now, and it’s also one of those series that just drops references for the sake of dropping references, which also has gotten quite annoying. And it’s only the third episode yet. Ultimately, this just isn’t funny enough for a comedy for me, especially considering the competition it has right now. – (Good)

#8: Polar Bear Cafe – 17: This was one of the lesser episodes of Polar Bear Cafe. It still was funny, but it was pretty much about Panda and Polar Bear trolling again in the first half, and Rin Rin in the second half. It’s not really something new, and these jokes are starting to wear off now. – (Enjoyable)

#9: Binbou-Gami ga – 04: Sorry, Binbou-gami, but with this I’m going to drop you. The new character of this episode was just a collection of bad SM-jokes. For a comedy, this just isn’t funny enough. When I watch a comedy, I want to really laugh out loud, not chuckle once every five minutes. Comedy is incredibly subjective, so if you like SM-jokes and lots of yelling, then this series is for you. I’d rather watch Polar Bear Cafe and Poyopoyo, though. – (Disappointing)

#10: Tanken Drilland – 03: Anime writers need to realize the boundaries of stupidity. Running into a trapped room? That’s okay. Anyone can make such a careless mistake. A different matter is it when a character falls for the classic “money on a string”-trap. Especially when the “string” is a sticky spider thread. And he wraps it around his arms. And falls for the same trick twice. And that wasn’t even the worst in this episode: a character goes missing and instead of looking for him, they think that he has abandoned them and run off with the treasure. – (Lacking)

#11: Saint Seiya Omega – 16: It’s not like this episode sucked completely. The change of pace was welcome, we saw something different of the world for a change and this was definitely good to bring some diversity such a monotone series. But everything about the restaurant felt like an insult. Like “why are you still watching this? We surely aren’t trying anymore”.I can understand that fillers need to have light-hearted material compared to regular episodes, if you’re going to use them at all, but even with light-hearted things you actually need to try. – (Lacking)

38 Responses

  1. 祈是条母狗 says:

    tanken drilland is made for kids, and for that i think they did a good job. besides, you say this is stupid yet you still watch phi brain which is the stupidest show that’s ever come out in like 10 years.

  2. psgels psgels says:

    Being for kids is no excuse. Sure, it may be more forgivable, but stupidity remains stupidity, and I’m still waiting for another kids’show that actually takes its audience seriously.

    Also, yeah Phi Brain is stupid. That’s indeed a flaw of that show, but I think it’s going a bit too far to call it just as stupid as what went on in this particular episode of Tanken Drilland.

    • boo says:

      I think you misunderstood why they abandoned Wallace. And I do think that you should take into account that it is aimed at kids, not because it treats as if kids are stupid and don’t understand “grow up stuff”, but because the characters behave like kids which And as stereotypical as it is, it’s not a bad thing, there are way too many shows that have kids behaving as adults.

      Mikoto is a pampered brat who until now at least follows Wallace blindly. When Wallace tells her “let’s go”, she follows him on instinct (it’s a completely mechanical reaction, like a puppy) it’s only afterwards that she remembers about Polon. She does so because Wallace is an advisor, someone older and someone she looks up to (if it will turn to be a romantic interest is yet to be seen)As a child she is at that age where she believes what she is told (she can’t yet read between the lines) so when Wallace tells her that a he doesn’t have friends and that she is not his friend, she believes him. Being dark and broody just doesn’t work with naive little girls with a puppy worship syndrome. Her turning her back on him is exactly the type of reaction such kid would have.

      And Polon… Polon is an idiot in his all 2d glory, no argument there. He will never learn, but at least the second time around the thread wasn’t visible.

      Could all this be handled better? Sure! But imo Total Eclipse had the most stupid episode this week, because while being aimed at adults it went full retard.

      • boo says:

        Oh and something that occurred to me just now. Isn’t having an idiot to repeat the same mistake in the book one of the oldest tricks as far as comedy goes? I think that’s what was the intention of the coin is. This show is build on old comedy and fantasy tropes, i just wish they pushed it a bit further, but it’s too early to tell, perhaps they will…

  3. Armpit says:

    Come on psgels is there really a reason to even waste a response on this guy? I mean he said Phi Brain is the worst anime in 10 years which really isn’t even a valid opinion unless you have only watched 10 anime in those 10 years. Yea the second season of Phi Brain is bad in my opinion, but the first season was leagues better than most of the sh;t that comes out these days that is targeted at young kids.

  4. Cytl says:

    “Kids, whatever you do, don’t ever get kids! If you do, there is a 50% chance that you’ll die within a few years.”

    There’s also a 40% chance that I will travel around the world.

  5. Bunny says:

    was that meant to be funny?

  6. jzar says:

    I am still not seeing any improvement in Hunter X Hunter. I’m not trying to spoil it for others. If you dig it, great. It’s just not working for me.

    The current production is like a show for the young kids of the same story. All the adult themes and edge have been glossed over. You don’t have anything left in the visuals to give it the grit and edge needed to the viewer the sense of how frighting the events are. It is just too clean.

    The female Nen user uses her power to enslave the dog manipulator but it is so badly acted and so toned down that it was almost comical instead of frighting. Then we have the over reactions from the characters watching the scene unfold. Having seen the scene done really well and then done so poorly, the whole scene really lost its sting.

    They still tell a good story mind, but as an Adult it’s like drinking watered down beer. Sure I could drink it, but why would I want to?

    So I’ll say goodbye to Hunter X Hunter Lite and just stick to enjoying the good vintage brew. Dark, scary and so enjoyable. This current hunter x lite just makes me want to avoid it.

    • Jeddek says:

      Okay bye have fun never experiencing the Chimera Ant Arc animated. This adaptation is following the manga as closely as it can while introducing the franchise to a new generation and the manga wasn’t always dark and frightening as Nippon’s adaptation. The manga was very inviting and has a clean art style so when the horror moments ,which I won’t spoil, happen it’s a shock. But hey if you like the first series more power to you. The whole point of this was to say treat each Hunter x Hunter series as it’s own and you’ll find it much more enjoyable.

      I have seen both series and read the manga btw

      • Chimeraruined says:

        “Okay bye have fun never experiencing the Chimera Ant Arc animated. ”

        Like that’s a bad thing lol! The chimera Ant Arc was the beginning of the end of Hunter x Hunter, all those animal people ruined it. It took the edge away from HxH and made it more magical. Now we have to keep seeing animal people like the zodiac dog face,monkey,etc..it’s so one piece! NO NOT A FAN! Really destroyed HxH!

        “The manga wasn’t always dark and frightening as Nippon’s adaptation.”

        Correct! I LOVE Manga but the anime surpassed it with its great music,scenes and the human touch.

        “he whole point of this was to say treat each Hunter x Hunter series as it’s own and you’ll find it much more enjoyable.”

        I completely agree! I stopped comparing and just flow with it. I still prefer the old one and i’m NOT keeping these HxH episodes. I’ll be honest i just want to see the spiders and their whole arc. Their appearances in the Chimera Ant Arc and well that’s it! I’ll try to give chimera another chance but it really destroyed HxH for me and god in the manga with the wish thing..JEEZES CHRIST RUINED!! :p

    • kamen rider says:

      Wait the scene with Instant lover is supposed to comedic. It was done almost the same way as the 99′ anime. I’m sorry but I don’t get this notion that the 99 anime was dark and frighting. Melodramatic sure. And Hunter x Hunter is not this totally dark seinen show you think it is. It’s still a shonen adventure that can be lighthearted.

      But take down your blinds and you’ll see that this version doesn’t shy away from those dark aspects. Kastro vs Hisoka(Magic trick), the butler getting shot to death.

  7. DmonHiro says:

    Oh come ON!!! The first 2 episodes were cute, but now they have a fight and they freaking leave him TO DIE?!!!! Right AFTER he saves their lives? What ungrateful BRATS!!!

  8. HunterWulf says:

    Psgels, i’m sorry but you complaint about Wakana’s dead mother doesn’t make any sense … people die … i don’t see any problem if one of the main characters lost her mother and had some hard time coping with that loss .. that’s something natural and happens a lot in real life .. specially if one of the parents die young.

    In the same logic “oh my god, all characters parents are alive, that has been done to death XD” … “oh my god, the parents of one of the characters are divorced .. that has been done to death” … seriously .. it has been done to death because it is part of everyone’s life .. oh .. and the sky is blue .. it’s always blue by the way .. done to death i guess XD

    • psgels psgels says:

      This is just something that has bugged me for ages, and I disagree with your logic that it’s the same as your parents being alive. The thing is, having dead parents as a teenager is highly unusual (aside from historical or dystopian settings), yet there hardly are any main characters in anime in which both parents are known to be alive. It’s an easy trick to get us to feel sorry for the characters.

      • HunterWulf says:

        While i agree it can be used as a way to”extract” sympathy from the viewers, i don’t think that’s the case here, this episode specifically proved IMO there is much more to this case than just artificially squeezing sympathy out of us.

      • wicked says:

        but main characters are meant to be set apart, both Harry Potter’s parents died, Bruce Wayne’s parent died, god knows how many superhero origins are orphans. It’s hell of an odd thing to call cliche, especially a lot of them arent about sympathy rather it mostly about a state of being. I dont feel bad for Kodaka from Bokuwa Tomodachi, or Tsubaki from Mysterious girlfriend, or the brother and sister in Ponyo. How many novels, television, and anime are base on a main character that’s a bit odd and an outcast?

        • psgels psgels says:

          Then try something different? There are many ways to do that, but the dead parent seems like the standard way for writers to insert some sympathy. Don’t get me wrong: there have been some great things done with dead parents, but does it really have to be done so often?

          • wicked says:

            It’s just a bit odd that you drew the line at Tari Tari where the dead mother seems to be an important plot device to the overall story, rather than something where that fact is a bit more trivial. There’s not a lack of wholesome families in anime lead though. Kimi Boku, Wandering son, Chihayafuru, Kimi ni Todoke all got functional core family units.

        • Scruffy says:

          @Wicked. I think you’ll have to agree that the presence of adults in these school setting type shows are still rare. Usually their presence is ignored, or they are used as a plot device.

          I liked Clannad for the fact that Nagisa’s family was there as a functional unit (family and belonging was a huge theme for Clannad) and the amount of screen time they got was awesome. But even there they were partly there to contrast against Tomoya’s disfunctional family and (you guessed it) his dead mom.

          • Scruffy says:

            One last comment about families and use as a plot device. It has been rare to see divorce being mentioned (this is not common to anime .. american TV tends to hate it as well), yet 1 in 4 marrages ends in divorce in Japan. However it does seem to be less of a taboo topic now. Personally I think that rather than the dead parent should be used more. As a single parent I certianly know that it has massive potential to generate drama!!

          • wicked says:

            It’s not uncommon in J-drama to see divorce couples. In fact a lot of slice of life/Josei mangas has it. Off the top my head, Taiyo no le is a recent one, Toradora too

          • HunterWulf says:

            Well, speaking of divorced parents, Kokoro Connect has that (i.e Iori’s parents) .. it’s not as common as the dead parent plot device .. but i remember seeing it in few series.

        • Scruffy says:

          Yup Toradora and the new Kokoro Connect spring to mind, plus ‘Kids on the Slope’ as well, all showing divorced parents. Still it’s not as common a plot device as the dead parent which for a school child IRL is not common at all.

  9. boo says:

    re: Total Eclipse. Oh Japan…. only you is capable of this.

    At first I was surprised to see that they actually showed how when you are of a mixed heritage you might end up being disliked by both ethnic groups and hate yourself for being of mixed blood, but then this being a Japanese production they really softened the Japanese xenophobia to only “you are disgrace to your Japanese side because you don’t take responsibility” (uh-oh) while immediately reminding the viewer that Japanese are “humble”, “polite”, “diligent” and showing that it’s the America who were actually even more xenophobic and bullied the poor protagonist to the point where he just hates himself for being half Japanese. (Plus I don’t think that calling Japanese “cowardly” registers as a valid/serious argument to your average viewer, be this viewer a Japanese or not.)

    But the above wasn’t the worst of it, you could say that however badly handled it sort of works and might be improved on in later episodes. The icing on the cake was the evil Soviet Union. The Soviet Union soldiers were so EVIL that that’s the only thing you needed to know about them, heck they don’t even need faces that’s how much EVIL they were. Of course the only “good” Russian is the abused little loli who pilots mecha and talks to teddy bear Misha (because what else a Russian teddy bear can be named?)and let me guess the only Russian who will see the light will be the other one? These caricatures made my head spin. This is 2012 Muv-Luv was created in 2003, why do we still have to rely on the Evil Russian Communists ™? (Not that the portraying of Americans was any better).

    • Taara535 says:

      I’m glad someone else noticed this. I was shocked by the crude interpretation of Americans – racists in the Southern backwoods (I think that is what they were trying even if it looked more like Southern England!). Oh the irony, falsely portraying the modern American South as a foil for racism while SIMULTANEOUSLY expressing ACTUAL RACISM and xenophobia towards non-Japanese.

      I love my anime, but I really get disgusted with the crude xenophobia deployed in some anime.

      The Muv-Luv adapters ought to have taken a look at Apollon, which was a much better and more realistic interpretation of racism (and at least that was set in the 60s when those views were definitely still held in sections of the Marines and the Army).

  10. Cytl says:

    Agree with you about Kokoro Connect, I’m surprised at how much I’m enjoying. The plot is turning out to be quite interesting and the pace, interactions and comedy make it quite easy to watch (I saw the 3 first episodes in one sit, something).

    • wicked says:

      Maybe it’s just initial bias again moe design and the body switching jokes, but they had to get that out of the way first

  11. UltimateReaper says:

    I will watch Koko connect whatever, people say its interesting initially I thought it was called Koko. Concert, which is why I didn’t watch it, yes, I judge by title

  12. Green says:

    “I see no potential whatsoever in this one.”

    That was the quick assessment psgel gave (Kokoro Connect) after viewing half of the first episode. The bias against silver link and fanservice was/(is?) strong. It was almost dismissed as softcore porn and the initial impression would become a self fulfilling prophecy. I’m glad that he continued. He should thank the commenters for that. Kokoro might still turn out to be horrible though.

  13. UltimateReaper says:

    I feel the same way, psgels, I think has seen too much anime, far, far too much. The bias is a bit heavy with this guy but you can’t blame someone after seeing a bajillion anime over the years, even though I hate his dislike towards some of my favorite anime/characters, I do respect his opinion and come here to survey thoughts on some of these shows.

  14. RABUJOI says:

    Tari Tari – We liked this episode a lot, but still think the second episode as the best so far…so much happened in that episode, and there was a great sense of chaos. This episode contained a few too many coincidences regarding the band, along with the cliched dead parent. What we did like was Sawa rightly chewing out Konatsu for flaking out on the choir club.

    Total Eclipse – We derive most of our enjoyment from Takamura Yui’s no-nonsense, tough love approach to her subordinates. We hope she gets to pilot a mecha at some point.

    Binbougami-ga! – Yeah, aside from a “huh, how ’bout that”, the random references to other media DO seem to exist purely for their own sake…but it would be nice if they meant something more in the situations they’re used. As for the yelling, as longtime Sket Dance viewers, we’re pretty used to it.

  15. Dynellen says:

    “girl pretending to be a guy in order to avoid gender racism” she wears chains around her ankles and tells a bit too detailed story about Mary (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_persecutions), who is supposedly locked up in the London Tower. So she has way better reason to avoid revealing her identity/gender to people than just avoiding racism.

  16. Cytl says:

    Psgels, about Horizon’s context, Psgels remember that the setting of the show involves a heavy reenactment of history; even Mazasumi had to go trough an (incomplete) sex change just for the sake of being “historically correct”. Still agree with you about this being a little jump of logic in the show.

  17. UltimateReaper says:

    Binbou-Gami ga is a strange mix of satisfaction and disappointment. Sunrise is always in somewhere in the middle of potential and realized potential, and every now and then they get it right, I just wish they were more consistent

  18. wicked says:

    Not sure Binbogami-ga is going to be just one season or not, because they’re really not pacing it that way. I see Momoo is the straw that broke the camel’s back, but both Momoo and Bobby ends up being pretty marginalized once all the girls comes out

  19. Eammy says:

    For me, Phi Brain is one of my favourite shows of all time. I don’t think psgels and others paid close enough attention to what is going on, hence why you think many of the episodes are stupid, especially the tournament arc. But even the most seemingly useless episodes have a purpose. What you see as character degradation, I see as plot buildup. Part of the payoff of this buildup is the latest episode 41, for example. Trust me, there’s more to it than what you think, guys. It’s a shame this show has its status degraded to a mere kaleidoscope entry.

    • kuromitsu says:

      I agree that Phi Brain is still doing great – I have no idea why psgels started taking it too seriously in S2, but I think it was a bad idea. This show is built on an inherently ridiculous premise with inherently ridiculous characters, and for all the drama it doesn’t take itself very seriously either.

      I also agree that unfortunately psgels has a habit of not paying attention to what is happening and what the characters are saying, not just with Phi Brain but other shows as well…

      • Rolca says:

        While some of the points psgels made are valid (such as ep10’s characterization), what he says also lets me think he often forgets or misinterprets what’s being said. It makes me sad to see my favorite anime gets bad comments when psgels didn’t get what was being said.

        Besides, Phi Brain runs on suspension of disbelief and not taking things seriously. From the first reviews psgels wrote, the charm seemed to work so I don’t get why it didn’t with S2.

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At a glance I'll go against the grain and say I think demi-chan is funnier than konosuba, going on one episode of each.
I've been watching a fare share of samurai films in the last two years and lately so I'm open to wathing more anime/reading manga dealing with samurai.
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@Mario, Sounds good to me. With me covering Little Witch Academia, Saga of Tanya the evil and Rakugo this season is well covered.
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so I've decided to blog 3-gatsu, Scum's Wish and ACCA this season. A bit worry about the latter as I still don't have much to talk about that. Let's try it and see what happens; I say
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Okay, I'm not hot on Onihei this week, as if the main theme about these two episodes were "people can be corrupted" then I'm not buying it. ACCA, on the other hand, was still very solid of building up the world and its big events to come.
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I have played all the big roguelikes and found they have the same problem. I argee on procedural generation. Even if the map is different every time you are essentailly going through the same rooms and doing the same things.
Masky
Though to be honest, I don't like procedural(or designed room and then game connects them randomly) games much. I much enjoy hand designed dungeons since I rarely play games through more than once anyway so roguelike's appeal of "Every time you play it through its different!" doesn't appeal to me much and hand designed dungeons are much more memorable
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Can't really comment further on that since I don't know which roguelikes you have played, and neither I have played gungeon so I don't know if its badly designed to the point you can't do anything if rng says so. Though I guess there is nothing wrong about liking luck based games, if roguelike in question is truly unbeatable if rng says so, well, its really badly designed one if you ask me.
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Take my last run. Made it up to the fourth floor. Got plenty of guns but none were really useful. Even then ran out of ammo for all of them and the game was cheap about giving out ammo. Plenty of money but shops with nothing worth buying. Over 5 heart containers but no goddamn health. Died on the boss because I rolled out of a bullet into another bullet. Pretty much unavoidable.
AidanAK47
@Masky, that's the theory but in pretty much every roguelike I played its not the case. If the RNG decides you are going to have a bad time then you are going to have a bad time. Skill can only bring you so far. I have played this game for 7 hours and I know I could have finished it in 2. Only thing stopping me is a dice roll.
Masky
Like, the thing with roguelikes is that they can get easier/harder depending on luck, but well done one should be completable even without any upgrades at all if you are skilled enough.
Masky
Thats not the really case with roguelikes though, unless game design is bad and includes insta kill traps and such that are unavoidable if you are unlucky
AidanAK47
I hate roguelikes. Been playing enter the Gungeon and I just lost all patience with it. Getting real tired of my victory being decided by a RNG. It never feels satisfying to finish a roguelike because I know my victory was determined by pure luck.
AidanAK47
So we got to rely on fansubs for it when it's airing.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Nope. I think because netflix only puts up full seasons they are only planning to put it up when it's finished airing. Or when it's dubbed.
SuperMario
But how does the Netflix thing work? So of I have a Netflix account I can watch the show weekly?
SuperMario
@Aidan: that's a dumb way to do things really because unless you watch the show weekly, everyone gonna forget that it even exist. Just look at Re-Life last year
Lenlo
thought*. Words are hard.

Eventually found the actual first ep though and enjoyed it.
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Was funny. I tried to find the first Ep for Little Witch, found original short made afew years ago, watched it and though "This is very similar to the original... Whats new".
AidanAK47
Little witch is one of the best shows this season and yet I can't get subtitles because Netflix doesn't release shows weekly. Motherf*cker.
Lenlo
Ore Monogatari I enjoyed. It was a nice romance that actually explored what happens after the confession. Also the 2 leads are just precious.
Lenlo
Alright but unmemorable seems like a good summation.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: one good thing about Seiren is if you don't like this romance, the whole thing gonna reset after episode 4 so there's a chance that you might end up like it. Agreed that the comedy wasn't very good. Alright but unmemorable
SuperMario
@Topgavin: I watched like first 3 episodes and stopped because I didn't have much time there, but I enjoyed what I saw. A well-written and endearing show in my book
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Has anyone here watched Ore Monogatari before? Because in the 4 years I've watched anime, I've never heard of it (I guess it did come out 2 years ago) and yet it's turning out to be one of my favorite shows. Always great going into a show expecting nothing and getting pleasantly surprised.
AidanAK47
Only one more impression to go. Should have it up tomorrow.
Lenlo
Im really not feeling Seiren. Its "comedy" isnt for me and I just dont find it very enjoyable to watch so far. Im curious if it gets any better but 2 episodes in it just isnt that good.
HelghastKillzone
That ending scene is an entire side-story compressed into that. Don't expect anymore of it from here on out as the it sticks to ruthless military/fantasy pretty well.
LookingForKeys
@Topgavin I think it was good, making it the second episode. That way the first set up the world the story will be in, and showed how much of a monster the "little girl" really is right at the end, and then made ep.2 the explanation. Nothing against Tanya trying to rip "God" a new one.
That after-credits scene, though...
SuperMario
Hmm, as much as I like Seiren's omnibus format, it doesn't turn out really hot this second episode. Demi-chan, on the other hand, still maintains its endearing tone. Might blogging Demi-chan instead
Topgavin
Yeah, that second episode was much better than the first. Dunno why they didn't start with that to be honest, waste of an opportunity for a good hook episode. The voice for the main girl still sounds weird to me though; I get it's supposed to sound weird because it symbolizes 'her' being out of place and her personality and body being a mismatch, but it'll certainly take some getting used to.
AidanAK47
Youjo Senki, now we are talking. Like Helghast said, Did the god scene way better than the LN and manga. Made it less comedic and more intimidating.
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@Mario: Remaking psycho and ruining the shower scene, for shame van sant, for shame.
Kaiser Eoghan
Its easy to ripoff some obscure thing though and get away with it. The dogtooth director essentially stole an old Mexican film to make that.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: yeah, that following some guys from behind like they were on a RPG games, which I think actually fit with the tones of Elephant. I have such mixed feeling with Gus van Sant too. Don't really think he's a great director.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Although Istvan Szabo is probably a little more well known for that Mephisto film that updates the Faust story. Zoltan Fabri's the fifth seal is a very thought provoking war movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I remember seeing a film documentary that featured Gus van sant in one section, they showed clips of tarrs films, Sant ripped of the cinematography and stole the style from some British short film to make Elephant.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree on the other Hungarian filmmakers, I don't know much about them either.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Scorsese's Silence was a big comeback. I really really emotionally connect with spiritual crisis stories.
SuperMario
@kaiser: yep, definitely check wreckmeister down. Althought I admit that watching his 2-hour plus films will feel like 5-hour anyways
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm more tolerant of darker teenage/coming of age films/stories. Les Demons was a big surprise.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Though its kind of frustrating, I do think Tarr probably takes attention away from other hungarian filmakers because no-body knows who the hell the others are.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Man, wreckmeister was so visually arresting I started getting dreams from it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I would consider Tarr to be kind of a poor mans Janco, Angelopolus and Tarkvosky rolled into one. I don't entirely "get" wreckmeister and man from London but they are great atmospheric mood piece experiences.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I had been wanting to watch Belar Tarr's Turin Horse and Werckmeister Harmonies for so long now. Well, Fat Girl is shocking haha, but I'm normally drawn into those kind of films anyway.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Margaret took like 5,6 years to release because he couldn't cut it down in the way he wanted. The final cut if I remembered correctly was edited by Martin Scorsese
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Only a HDcam for moonlight now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I looks like my lineup is witch academia, rakugo and youjo senki, well the most latter one until I get bored.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I sense a directors cut for manchester, it feels like it need another 30 minutes.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: right up my valley. Watch Kenneth Lonergan's previous works Magaret and You Can Count on Me. Magaret is very messy but have a raw dialogue and interactions as well
SuperMario
Now the first episodes are over, I will keep on covering 3-gatsu, as for the other twos atm I have 3 options: 1) full romance/anti-romance high school Seiren/Scum's Wish. 2) slice-of-life moe monster girls Demi-chan/Maid Dragon and 3) Mature,dark Onihen/Acca (which although I like them I don't have much to talk about).If you guys have any preference on which shows you like covered then let me know
Kaiser Eoghan
@Helghast: At this point I'm watching youjo senki as an entertaining guilty pleasure.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Too many reboots upcoming, will wait for the dvds instead. I want to explore more of manchester by the sea's director's work. I also want to finally get more into Bela Tarr's stuff.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I was rather shocked by A Ma souer/fat girls final act. Scenes with the Italian in the bedroom were initially creepy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it's a nice review Kaiser, a bit jealous with you that you've seen those 3 films which are touted as the best films of 2016. Also Fat Girl, haha, I love that movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
Poor yotaro =< you have so much stuff going down on you =<
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki episode was so good today. That revamped scene with God just fitted so right.
AidanAK47
A official release of that game in the west is apparently coming but it's been a few years and not much news about it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Ah yes that was the one.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Had to think for a moment on that one but I think I was talking about this. https://vndb.org/v3144
Kaiser Eoghan
Now I'd hardly consider myself a studio trigger fan, but I watched the first witch academia episode there, it was actually kind of fun, got the same reaction from me as flipflappers did, that magical, special feeling.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I also, of interest reviewed Kenneth Lonegrans new film: http://letterboxd.com/shao_liu_ringon/film/manchester-by-the-sea/
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Moonlight got some feels out of me though it could of been more, it ends abruptly and with 20 extra minutes they could have spent a bit more time on each section of his life.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I checked out lala land, ending was very well executed, one of three scenes in the film that were impressive visually. The whole thing looked pretty and Gosling and Stone had some decent chemistry. Although it didn't resonate emotionally as strongly as the musicals of Jacques Demi did.
Kaiser Eoghan
MOM I want aiyoku no eustia and I want it now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I've never heard of himawari or tokyo babel. The hellsing comparison at least interests me in dies irae. What was the name of that visual novel again that was coming out soon, Aidan you described it as "And Kaiser would love it because its supposed to be really fucked up".
Kaiser Eoghan
I vaguely remember the anime for 11 eyes, it was very forgettable, even the voice acting was poor, hated the childhood friends and the pacing was poor, those black knight things were kind of interesting though.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: You'll have to add me onto the list of those unsatisfied with the ever 17 writer, I read one of those games and felt it was a bunch of interesting bait that never paid off.
AidanAK47
Anyway I plan on doing a review of 11eyes here when I finish it.
AidanAK47
Can't say I was a fan of Ever17. That was a really good twist but when it came to explaining it their was a lot of contrived development. Generally not a fan of the writer. Looseboy, Ryukishi, Gen and Nasu are more my kinda thing
AidanAK47
@Anon, it is nice that so many VNs are on steam but I wish they wouldn't be stupid with the whole no adult content thing. Not so much for myself but to prevent idiots from writing negitives reviews because the game doesn't have sex. VNs can grip you in a way anime simply can't and while they require pathence and time those can be some pretty powerful stories.
Anonymous678956
@Aidan, I am so happy steam's so VN-friendly now. I think it's a very good type of media. Like anime, it has nice visuals, music and some movement but also the inner monologue and text amount of books. It's the perfect combination. Plus, the routes, which are often puzzle pieces and PoVs you have to go through to understand the whole story. True routes like the one of Ever17 blew my mind.
AidanAK47
Hopefully the two VNs I bought of steam turn out better. Tokyo Babel is supposed to be alright and I heard really good things about Himawari.
AidanAK47
I am about a third of the way through the game and really not much of worth has happened. The concept is interesting but the execution is sorely lacking.
AidanAK47
I went in expecting it to be a mixed bag and it's pretty below my expectations. It's just not really well written and the protagonist is a moron. THere isn't really routes and instead you are pretty much stuck with his childhood friend as the main love interest. Problem with that is her character begins and ends with loving the main.
Anonymous675376
@Aidan, damn. 11Eyes is on my reading list as well. Although I almost expected it to not be as good as I thought it'd be (back then). Guess I would have enjoyed it if I was able to read it while the (shitty) adaption aired, maybe I have seen/read too many series by now. Guess I'll still give it a try some day though.
AidanAK47
@Anon, I haven't heard the OST or watched the intro video. I only know it be reputation and have decided to walk into it as blind as I can. Still slightly worried as I was somewhat looking forward to reading 11Eyes for a couple of years and now that I am reading it it's well...not good.
Anonymous675376
@Aidan, same here. I was waiting years for this, since I saw the intro video for the first time. Also, that OST!
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki is already leagues better than Izetta. It's going to be top anime of forever and ever. (maybe not)
AidanAK47
And finally Dies Irae is funded. May actually be able to play and finish the game before the anime airs. If the hype is real behind this baby it could be a new personal favorite Visual Novel of mine. Already looking promising with it being like a cross between Hellsing and Fate/Stay Night. Two things I most certainly like.
Lenlo
@Masky, in regards to style over substance thats where im at with Gurrne Lagann.
Topgavin
Yeah, I'll probably watch the next episode to see whether it can redeem itself. Hopefully it can but considering 1st episodes usually get a lot of budget, there's some severe doubt in there.
AidanAK47
I actually argee with character designs and voices are bad in regards to female characters. Still the next episode might change your mind if we get more into the main characters head.
Anonymous671470
It's boring
Topgavin
Also, it seems I disagree with a lot of people in thinking Youjo Senki will be a massive trainwreck. The character designs are awful, the voice acting is mismatched but most of all the premise just seems so very dumb. If I wanted to watch a badass kill people I'd go watch Hellsing or Drifters, because at least those don't have some op, disproportionate loli as the mc.
AidanAK47
Gets even more complicated when you account for Satire and Parody. You could equally argue all examples listed as being as such.
AidanAK47
Little Witch Academia is a decontruction of Harry Potter....I don't believe that but honestly if I tried I could put some reasoning behind that statement.
Topgavin
In the end, it always comes down to opinion (as with every discussion about anime, for some reason). You could spin any and every series as a "deconstruction", which is why people shy away from using the word. You could argue NGE, Madoka and Re:Zero are all deconstructions yet also argue Gundam, Precure and SAO are depending on what points you weigh more importantly.
Masky
Like, if deconstruction is supposed to be just "break the elements and then play story how it would realistically go down" well I haven't watched NGE, but as far as I know it does have stuff that isn't typical to mecha genre besides the "It would fuck up kids" thing plus "realistically how it would play out" is pretty subjective thing. I mean, its mainly about how cynical bastard the writer is :P
Masky
Like I said, I don't fully agree with it because I find video's speaker's attitude annoying, but I found it semi convincing. Main thing I don't find convincing about it is that I don't think its hard to turn video's own arguments agaisnt it and say that by its own logic NGE isn't deconstruction either, like Aidan just said earlier
Masky
And I don't really have energy for checking out the "correct" one. If there even is one. Anyway, the hipster video I was talking about was titled "What Actually Is A Deconstruction?" if you want to check it out.
Masky
Hmm, well, it does depend on definition you use. Like if you use "realistic" thing, well, Magical Girl shows don't usually have "You turn into monsters" thing going on and reason why NGE's pilots go crazy is from dangerous situations rather than evas making them do so. But honestly, I don't really have strong opinion on matter since word seems to be one of those with several different meaning
SuperMario
for me Madoka IS a deconstruction of Magical girl, and yeah like what Aidan said
SuperMario
I think part of Utena is a deconstruction of "prince riding horse and save the girl" because that notion is just a foundation for Utena to become a prince herself and save other girl. That's breaking it apart and resemble it again in its own way. Don't have to be dark/ don't have to be real either
AidanAK47
@Masky, That's just debating semantics. Besides that difinition would pretty much mean that Neon Genesis Evangelion isn't a decontruction either. Madoka isn't a decontruction because it's dark. It's more in its aspects of criticising why a girl should throw her ordinary life away for something as dangerous as being a magical girl. It does take plenty of the typical tropes and turn them on its head
SuperMario
@Masky: Genre deconstruction is such a tricky word that I normally try to avoid using because there's really no set characteristic about the term and different people have different opinions about what constitute "deconstruction". For me, I disagree that deconstruction have to be dark and real, hmm can't say it well but I will give you an example:
Masky
But yeah, I guess I could try to find the video if you guys are interested, though like I said, I got hipsterish feel from the video and felt rather annoyed through it even though I did get what the point was and found it sort of convincing besides my annoyance
Masky
(not that liking NGE is hipsterish, its just that I find NGE to be more style than substance sort of series <_< Anyway, guy didn't dislike madoka or anything, he just seemed to dislike people using word deconstruction wrong in his opinion)
Masky
(especially with how much they seemed to praise Neon Genesis Evangelion)
Masky
I mean, I think the guy was being somewhat hipsterish, but its true the being darker take on genre isn't same as deconstructing the genre
Masky
@AidanAK47: Some other guy on youtube did video that had actually pretty good point about how Madoka isn't really deconstruction, if you go by definition of "Break it down to parts and then play them straight to show how horrifying it would be in real life"
Anonymous670441
Gente - Ristorante no Hitobito
Kaiser Eoghan
If anything its the hate I have for certain characters that makes it more effective.
Kaiser Eoghan
The obsessional level of attachment is just uncomfortable to me, I don't want to get THAT attached to a non-real character.
Kaiser Eoghan
Its literally just a case of "Okay lets look at this picture of this character, she looks interesting, no feelings or expression from me, apply this fetish, fap, get release, go home. "
Kaiser Eoghan
Or drooling/dribbling/heavy breathing/grinning over the characters. I abhor alot of the anime girls I find attractive or am indifferent, even when looking at ecchi/hentai drawings I'm straight and clinical with it.
Kaiser Eoghan
I mean to each their own. But I really hate the level of emotion/devotion to moe/finding the characters attractive. Such as celebrating their birthdays, going on about how cute/hot they are, how important it is that they're virgins. Or not being being self-aware of how irritating the characters are.
Lenlo
Anime hipster is pretty accurate. His general treatment of the current state of anime is annoying, as is his obsession with moe. Maybe its cause I cant stand moe most of the time, but it bugs me.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Lenlo: Essentially my brothers view on digibro.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: I don't usually feel the need to correct errors in your reviews as the errors are generally un-important, but I think you meant to say apprentices rather than appearences in the Rakugo review, just bringing that up as it felt like kind of a throw off.
AidanAK47
Which is kinda like saying Madoka wasn't a magical girl deconstruction because Sailor Moon and Nanoha had dark elements too.
AidanAK47
Went and read the reddit comments on it and seems I was right on the money.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, He's basically a anime hipster. For example, I saw a thumbnail of his which had Saitama on it and below it "Is There Meaning In "Subverting" Shounen Tropes?" and I thought "Okay, he's going to go on about how OPM isn't subversive and then list a bunch of arbitrary examples in an attempt to redefine what is actually subversive"
Lenlo
I have lots of issues with Digibro. Dude has some good points, but other very horrible ones. Some issues he feels strongly about and gets kinda biased on imo.
Anonymous669202
acca looks visually interesting, and I personally really dig this kind of show, but it seems that it's definitely not for everyone
AidanAK47
Time to live up to my word. Four posts incoming.
AidanAK47
Man, Little witch Academia was so good. I disagree with the whole Digibro thing about being able to recognise a great show in it's first episode but watching this makes me think that this really is going to be something special.
AidanAK47
Alright, gonna put in effort today and have 3 or 4 first impressions posts done. That should knock out near half the season.
Kaiser Eoghan
Had a flip through handshakers. Garish is the word I'd use to describe it visually, it takes you out of the show.
Topgavin
ASuperMario From the first minute I can already tell it's by the same people that made K. Those colour filters and the extremely jarring/obvious city CGI is unmistakable.
SuperMario
Hand Shakers, literally makes my hands shaking. It's an abosolute mess. Highly recommended to check it out because it's so terrible it's great to watch
Vonter212
Yeah, and it's also a literal woman in refrigerator plot device, since that the thing that pushes the story forward.
Masky
I'd say that having to hide your sister's body in fridge would count as daaaaaaark and edgy, but when the body is wearing only underwear, and for some reason main character put metal things in fridge to keep body standing(I guess to not knock fridge open from inside?) I think it goes to "exploitation" you are talking about
Vonter212
@Masky - Did someone said doing dark things for drama? That's the bread and butter to get despair. Unless it's for the sake of perversion. Then it's just exploitation.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Masky: His other works dead tube and scumbag go further in the unhinged regard.
Masky
*relies on easy "let's do [x dark thing] for drama!" thing
Masky
Geez, Mayonaka no X Giten is fricking disturbing/disgusting ._. I'm pretty sure that writing relies on e, but I can't help but think mangaka is trying to make corpses sexy.
SuperMario
I found Onihei to be quite good, actually one of the most solid new episode I watched this new season. Guys, check them out
Vonter
I just hope it doesn't fall into the same misstep Kabaneri or Inuyasha or Bleach fall by making a villain so over the top that it crossed the line of not having a satisfying downfall.
Anonymous657941
@Vonter I think they just moved on. I lost interest rather quickly and I guess even the fans did that at some point, like with some other long-running series. There is much more new and more direct "fujo" stuff out there, many of them probably switched. Don't know what happens in the manga but maybe the story got worse or contained things some people didn't like.
Vonter
January will be loli dictator month (for me) :p. World Conquest Zvezda Plot, Youjo Senki: Saga of Tanya the Evil (new), Seraph of the End. For some reason I stumble into three curious series with little power hungry girls. If I can ask, why did Owari Seraph's hype died, I remember back it was mentioned more often. It still has the fujoshi fanart but still, I don't see people bringing it up.
SuperMario
@CATski: well, if you didn't like its first 3 episodes I dont think the rest gonna change your mind. Have you finished Erased then? How did you like it?
SuperMario
But I understand it's difficult to speak in front of camera, get some time to get used to it
SuperMario
@kaiser: I won't commend on poem as I'm terrible at it myself but younneed to work more on presentation Kaiser. Small little things like looking directly at the camera or say "thanks for listening" in the end can connect you to the audience better
Anonymous657071
Ok. I'll give the thing another chance. *clicks torrent* XD. CATski.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Topgavin: You might like centaur no nanami if you like demi-chan.
Kaiser Eoghan
Damn...repeated myself =<
Kaiser Eoghan
There are these things called slam sessions done in bars where people get up and read out stuff in front of a crowd and read stuff out. Actually watching rakugo made me think about practicing for that kind of thing.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: the video I did was of me reading out a short piece of writing I did, a poem. lol I uploaded it to the wrong youtube account too I just realized =P
[link src="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypBZ2hBDBYs&t=11s
I"] was recording this from my mothers laptops inbuilt cam while reading off my desktop.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I think it's a good idea for you to try out reviewing movies/stuffs in youtube channel. I'll be very interesting to listen to them
SuperMario
@Topgavin: Agree. Demi-chan was so charming. Definately one of my favorite so far this new season
Topgavin
Demi-chan's first episode was good. Like, really really good. That blonde-haired girl was hilarious, the teacher-student relationship between the MC and the girls is really interesting and the social/practical problems the demi's face make it look like my favorite show so far.
CATski
Ah... ok. Is it really that good or it's just one of those "artsy" animes that tend to get overrated by their ardent fans? I didnt find the rakugo bit interesting.... probably the weakest aspect of the show for me.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Why did I read that chapter. Why did I do that to myself.
Kaiser Eoghan
Admittedly yes the premise is not for everyone, but if you stick with it, the flashback arc had some good character work in there.
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