Posted by psgels on 19 August 2012 with categories: Anime Reviews

I’m not sure exactly what happened, but Ghost in the Shell took me much, much longer to finish than usual. That’s not a bad sign by the way, I have this with some series that I really like, that I don’t want them to end, but this still was really extreme. It took me exactly half a year to finish a measly 26 episodes and I still have a second season to go. My life habits have really changed…

But Ghost in the Shell remains a series that is very tough to digest. It is a series that you constantly need to pay attention for, and it’s full of complex dialogues that are a trademark for its director Kenji Kamiyama. And it’s not just the numerous philosophical debates in this series, but the main plot itself is also mind-bogglingly complex. It involves modern politics, has a huge focus on the mass media. The way in which it fleshes itself out is through long discussions and debates, full of speculation and theories. Yes, you will have to work if you want to enjoy this series, and yes: it delivers.

It was hard work to get through this series, but it does feel like an accomplishment to be able to finish it. Seriously, there are very few series that go even further with their dialogue and exposition than this series. The only that I can recall out of the top of my head are Mouryou no Hako and various Mamoru Oshii’s work, and perhaps Ergo Proxy. If you’re looking for something intelligent, make sure NOT TO SKIP THIS SERIES.

What holds this one back is a bit of a mis-managed cast. I assume that this will be fixed in the Second Gig, but the half of the main cast gets surprisingly little depth, even though the cast of side-characters get a ton of this. I feel like this series could have used its episodes better to flesh them out, because with the way this series is, we always see them in perfect control and we hardly see different sides of them as well. The main storyline around the Laughing Man is fantastic, though I did notice that at this point I can hardly remember the rest of the stories that took place in this series.

Storytelling: 10/10 – That dialogue. It’s great to see another series that takes its audience as seriously as with this series.
Characters: 8,5/10 – Half of the cast really is great. Others are completely one-dimensional though.
Production-Values: 8.5/10 – Here is a tough one: back when it first aired, the graphics were revolutionary. And subsequently it inspired everyone to try harder and surpass the animation here, making it feel rather dated at this point. Yoko Kanno still is godly, though.
Setting: 9/10 – Excellent science fiction, innovative concepts and really makes you think about both technology and politics. Although the standalone episodes could perhaps have been better used.

Suggestions:
Ergo Proxy
Seirei no Moribito
Mouryou no Hako

23 Responses

  1. S-R says:

    I am glad you enjoyed this. SAC is definitely a great series. I still think 2nd Gig managed to improve upon a lot of what made SAC so great.
    I felt that the whole story worked better, the stand-alone episodes were more interesting and the greater development of much of the rest of the cast completed it. You should definitely get on to that soon. :p

    But as for S1, I found that the Togusa or Batou episodes were by far my favourites.
    The Batou undercover, boxing episode in particular, still stands up as one of my all time favourites from any series.
    And the Tachikoma stuff at the very end, powerful indeed. :p

    Definitely a shame that there aren’t more series’ of this caliber around

  2. Firechick says:

    I was wondering when you’d get back to finishing the shows on your to-watch list! Now all that’s left is the second season of this, Planetes, and Twin Spica!

  3. Hades says:

    GITS SAC is too damn awesome. And Planetes is just as amazing as this one.

  4. Loz says:

    It took you half a year?..wow. Great series though. Expect the same quality from second gig.

    Totally unrelated, but I met the guy who designed the laughing man emblem.

  5. kero says:

    Makes me want to go back and watch this series again

    viva cyberpunk

  6. Blue Bomber says:

    1 ep per week of 26 ep series = half a year. :D

    Yeah, this show is great (2nd Gig is even better). Even the English dub is perfectly acceptable. I watch reruns on Adult Swim/Toonami, whenever it comes into rotation, as much as I can. Never gets repetitive.

  7. Patrick says:

    Glad you finished the first half. I’m hoping you will enjoy the second half too, I think it’s better than the 1st season, the finishing movie though is not that great.

  8. Patrick says:

    If you have time read the original manga “Ghost in the Shell” almost nothing in common with the anime (only the charactgers) but you will probably like it too.

  9. Commenter says:

    I barely remember the plot of this series beyond a couple of bits of the laughing man and this one stand alone episode about the guy who plants his brain in a futuristic tank. And the first episode as well.

    I don’t think this series is as good as many perceive it, though it is a blast to watch. The complexity of the story is to its detriment. I think this series should have done the witch hunter robin approach to storytelling of having all the standalones in the beginning with a couple of important details for later on. And the second half would be a less dense telling of the laughing man story.

    The characters are pretty much going to stay the same. Lots of attention to the major and little to the others, though I do think each member will get an episode dedicated to them. Only the one on the sniper is really good.

  10. Whisperer says:

    @Commenter – no. Togusa and Batou were much more developed than the Major (and, might I add, much more likeable). And yes, each of them gets an episode – Paz’s in s2 was the weirdest one. Also, some of the standalone episodes are classics – in s1 the only one that I disliked was the “hostage episode” with Aramaki. s2 generally had better pacing, BUT it also had that filler episode with the kid and the mafia :/

    @Patrick – yeah, Solid State Society gets points for the OST (“Replica” :X), but I didn’t really “get” the ending – it uses some terms taken from postmodern authors that I’m not very comfortable with. But apart from that, it’s still great.

    • Commenter says:

      Ah yes, I forgot about Togusa. They really developed him well over the first series. Though I don’t remember much about Batou except that he was always ready to snark.

    • DangerMouse says:

      Yeah I definitely liked Togusa and Batou’s eps they were often great. As for Aramaki’s hostage ep, really, you didn’t like that one?

      It was actually one of my favorite ones, Aramaki’s awesome and the way he completely took command of the two thief/hostage takers was priceless to watch IMO.

  11. Alec says:

    I’ve always thought Psgels had already watched GiTS

  12. Alec says:

    The second season was even better

  13. Puran says:

    Definitely watch 2nd Gig as well. It improves on a lot of the aspects of the 1st season and it really has quite a few standout episodes (the sniper one, and the background story one come to mind).

    And I haven’t re-watched it recently, but it looks much less dated than the 1st Gig.

  14. Pax says:

    The animation quality is still impressive even today, truly jaw dropping at times, even if it’s been years since I finished it, for example I still remember the amazing city shots, just superb, not too mention the fluidity of the action scenes. And then there’s Yoko Kanno with one of her best soundtracks. Maybe I am just incredibly subjective but 8,5 for Production-Values!? You gave Hajime no Ippo a 9 and that one had some pretty obvious problems at times and really there’s no point in comparing the soundtracks.

    Anyway, at least I agree that many of the main cast does not get enough development in this 1st season.

  15. starry says:

    Yay you finished it!

    I’m working my way through 2nd GIG myself, I couldn’t put the series once I started it. Sure the CGi is kind of dated at this point (especially the OP) but its a fun intelligent series

  16. Whisperer says:

    @Pax, you’re right, this anime is a 9.5/10 animation-wise even by today’s standards (they DID take some shortcuts and some of the early 3D is jarring). Of course, it’s no Innocence, but the OST makes up for that – 2nd gig was even better, with “Rise” and “Cyberbird” being top-quality tracks (there was, however, this “internet-scandal” about Yoko Kanno and plagiarism, and Cyberbird was one of the tracks mentioned, but I really didn’t care about it)

  17. Blue Bomber says:

    I actually agree with the 8.5 rating in Production Values, though I don’t mind the cel shaded look of the CG (I find fully textured vehicles/things with regular characters in them more odd looking). There are lots of scenes where characters are off model when they’re not closeup shots. 2nd Gig is much better about this, and the production values overall. Looks less like Naruto and more like the amazing show it is.

  18. theweirdone says:

    Kind of got what the author is telling about, I have started to watch Fairy Tail, but the first episode somehow didn’t give me that felling of action and drama wich I’m craving for, it somehow predictable, but I have only watched 9 or 10 episodes, and I saw that on youtube that real action will come.

    Back to topic, I haven’t really seen Ghost in the Shell, but from the review I can seen that it has that drama and that toughness that the series got, I can say I’ll give it a shot :)

  19. JohnB says:

    I think there were too many filler episodes before the conclusion. If you dont go through that series fast enough, you’ll have time to forget most of the plot (which is kinda complicated) by the final 3 or 4 episodes. I they fixed that in 2nd Gig though. 2nd gig is on a bigger, internationally expanded scale. It’s on my top 5 list for sure.

    For the 1st Gig, if I feel like watching it again, I’ll skip on the filler episodes for sure. An excellent series overall, but not as good as 2nd Gig.

  20. gandalf8 says:

    Glad you finally managed to finish this one. I’ve been wondering when a review of it would be coming up, I thought you’d dropped it because of your busy schedule and the glut of good shows in the summer season.

    I actually liked most of the fillers, especially Batou’s investigation of that former boxing champ, and Tachikoma’s day out. That scene in the penultimate episode, when the Tachikomas sacrificed themselves to save Batou, still brings tears to my eyes whenever I re-watch it. The soundtrack is definitely one of the most outstanding aspect the series, Yoko Kanno giving us a masterclass performance.

    Hope you can finish the second season in a shorter time frame.

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Looks like anirena is down for me. Although it looks like nyaa went back up as this: https://nyaa.pantsu.cat/
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Aidan: Fate/Apocrypha, Made in Abyss, Kakegurui
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Lenlo: Touken Ranbu, The Reflection
Wooper: Ballroom, Shoukoku no Altair
Helghast: Re:Creators
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Yet as a game Tales hasn't felt deep since Symphonia, (at least from the ones I've played). I'm wondering if it'll leave me wanting check the anime of Zestiria, since apparently Berseria is a prequel to that game. And many say the anime is better than the game. (I can see why).
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Kaiser-Eoghan
I mean I watch anime and films subtitled but sometimes my reading speed can be slow if theres a lot of dialogue.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Eh, I do that sometimes, mostly to check for message updates or on occasion to read reviews of what I am watching or to download more/check downloads.
SuperMario
For instance, I watched Okja yesterday and I had to take 15', 20' minute break in between for snack, surfing webs and playing mobile games...
SuperMario
I watched Fanny and Alexander... don't really remember which version I watched thou. I think it's a TV version since it divides into 4 separate parts
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it just that... my attention span has shortened greatly and I just can't stay focus on movies over an hour mark. In cinema, it's alright since you can't move anywhere but now it's abig task to finish a 2 hour and a half movie for me
Kaiser-Eoghan
And is good enough to keep up the quality for that long.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I'll say this, for every medium, to me the length of something isn't so much the issue, if you have a writer good enough to keep something going for ages then the length shouldn't be an issue.
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@Mario: If something goes over three hours I treat it as a miniseries and watch one hour or two a day.
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@Mario: lol if you thought thats long, have you seen the extended versions of scenes from a marriage and fanny & alexander by Bergman? I can't wait to get my hands on the tv versions I hear they're completely different.
SuperMario
Okja is pretty entertaining with pointed social commentary. I don't really feel Tilda Swinton's double roles add up much but everything else is great. Bong has never disappointed me
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@Kaiser: good luck with Satantango then. I guess now if I watch an 8-hour long film it would take me a whole week to finish it :/
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Same boat here. For the first time in a long time I spent almost half the day catching up on all of my manga.
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@Mario: I'll have two weeks leave, I will finally watch Satantango, all eight hours of that film.
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Looking forward to that Dies review
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Yaaay! Time to enjoy your blogging time
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And now we are up to date. Just need to finally get that Dies Irae Review posted.
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Stand by me was a perftly watchable coming of age film and it surprised me, seeing a non-horror King story.
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Okay theres one way to settle this =P Lovecraft > all of them ;) I have actually enjoyed some King adaptations even though I know the Shining took liberties , I also enjoyed Carrie and Apt Pupil.
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@Kaiser, please. Early King > Richard Matheson > Modern King. Kings early works were good.
Lenlo
@Aidan, its true that Monty was the mind behind the fights. Sad, but I think the other directors are starting to come into their own instead of trying to copy Monty.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But we all know Richard Matheson > King.
Kaiser-Eoghan
He did some collabs with Stephen King I believe.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Like the dead films he's trying to be thematic, although this one is clumsily put together, I kind of like how it hybridizes the 50s with 70s style exploitation, it has its moments.
Kaiser-Eoghan
hmmm the only non Dead trilogy film I've seen by Romero is the Crazies, feels like he's still finding his voice with it.
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, Part of the reason is that they started using better animation software. But despite that there was a downgrade in fight chorgraphy when Monty died. Though the story I find is getting better.
AidanAK47
@Kinseryu, I think it's ridiculous to everyone but there are those that choose to ignore it.
@Anon, That's a bit harsh. It is true that his later works never truly panned out but he did pretty much popularise the zombie apoc. Even if Day of the Triffids did it before him.
Lenlo
Every season RWBY gets just a little bit prettier. Rooster Teeth really does have some of the better 3D animation skills out there.
Anonymous1272531
goerge romero was a hack trying desperate to stay relevant.
Kinseryu
Tenshi3P... I thought it was just me that this show was just ridiculous by putting three ten years old girl that knows how to play electrical instruments. They are insulting the people who plays these. But good thing I found this site with your first impression. I laughed and I feel better. Lol.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: he passed away? damn. He was the Father of Zombie genre. So like him or hate him, he was influential to say the least. RIP.
Kaiser_Eoghan
...holy shit George A Romero died? Now I have to watch the rest of his films.
Kaiser_Eoghan
Rei Hiroe is really dicking around with black lagoon lately, he's still releasing wasted chapters, just like re:creators, the most recent chapter of black lagoon was a slog.
Kaiser_Eoghan
Maybe the conversation and lives of others could sort of count as espionage stories to an extent.
Kaiser_Eoghan
If you're interested in spy fiction, Spy who came in from the cold, most wanted man, Smiley's people, deadly affair and tinker tailor soldier spy are your best bet.
SuperMario
@Travlos (regarding yoir earlier comment): yeah, it hit me as well that most of regular readers have been here even longer than myself. So thanks for sticking around mates
SuperMario
@Travlos: playing catch up with both Re:Creators and Virgin Soul yesterday. Agreed that last week's Re:Creators was weak because it focused on the Creators (they're not good) but last episode was on par again. Virgin Soul, I loved that episode that the girls go bacl to Nina's hometown
SuperMario
@anon1272074: I still haven't had the time to watch Pripri yet (probably in few more hours), but you bet I'm looking forward to it
Anonymous1272074
Then again, James Bond does count as a spy. I meant not a realistic one.
Anonymous1272074
Princess Principal 2 was pretty good. Still more James Bond via little girls than spies, but this episode was more about intrigue and stuff than action.
Lenlo
Started catching up with Kakegurui. The OP is the sort of mind games I remember from Mob Psycho. Dunno what that means for the show, but I like it.
KTravlos
Quite happy with this week's RE:Creators. Blitz is cool, Aliceteria looked so scary. It washed out the taste of last week's episode.

Bahamut is going interesting places.
BTW. Speaking of spies from Princess Principal. I watch TURN. That is a good spy show.
KTravlos
I mean you see the use of those heavy revolvers as clubs in westerns. Mythbusters did a experiment, and being hit by one could kill you just fine. But in anime, I do not remember seeing it often
AidanAK47
Homura used Gun-kata in the fight against Mami in Rebellion. Can't think of anyone who exclusively uses it though. After all Gun-Kata is more or less a flashy art that has no real benefit.
Anonymous1270604
amazing!
Vonter
Is Gun Kata the fighting style of Noel Vermillion from BlazBlue? I suppose I'm mainly thinking about how guns are handled in fighting games. Where the shots are mainly concussive. I suppose those are mainly energy blasts.
Lenlo
Ranbu took a step in the right direction I feel. Used the morals of whether or not to change history and it focused in on one of its characters.
Lenlo
Final Fantasy has had some gun swords. Cant think of any with guns in melee though. There are some with gun-kata like cowboy bebop though
Vonter
Just for curiosity, have anyone watched an anime, movie or game that uses a gun as a melee weapon. Or one in which the gun is mainly concussive but still has impact?
Spike
18if ep2 was a bit wacky... main character seems to be off his rocker.
AidanAK47
Alright. Time to finally play catch up with those series I need to blog.
Kaiser-Eoghan
But at the same time acknowledging love for creativity is more important in the end than making a profit.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I think I was using death of artist/deceased artist as a term to suggest peoples careers in the area are too often killed before they get a chance.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Moreso also to save the guy the embarrassment of misinterpreting it so awkwardly.
Kaiser-Eoghan
@Puran: Nothing too extreme , moreso that the piece itself feels inappropriate/tainted to have up/leave around/submit. Ended up taking it down out of taste.
Puran
Did that change how you feel about your writing? I had a somewhat similar experience, where something I was writing was similar to a real situation some I knew was going through. After I found out I stopped writing it. Not sure why.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I wasn't all that close to either of them much but yeah, weird coincidence.
Kaiser-Eoghan
He thought I already knew the guy was dead.
Kaiser-Eoghan
*earlier
Kaiser-Eoghan
Its all okay now...but fuck that was was awkward.
Kaiser-Eoghan
....Oh jesus christ...oh christ this is a creepy creepy coincidence...I showed an acquaintance a bit of writing I did early, it mentions death of an artist, thing is I was writing something based on a conversation with my editor friend, turns out said acquaintance's artist friend died (who he knows that I've spoken to in the past) and he thought the piece I showed him was about the dead guy.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I believe I began visiting this site in 2008.
As for humanity has declined, I found it bizzare and darkly funny for a while but felt it ran dry in its second half and I kind of fell out of following it.
KTravlos
You know it hit me. I think I have been following this blog for a decade now, perhaps more. Cool that it is still around.
Lenlo
I do agree it had alot more western influence than eastern though
Lenlo
Eh nothing wrong with that I think. Astro boy was very much the same after all
AidanAK47
@Lenlo, I personally saw it as more of a Saturday morning cartoon than an anime.
Lenlo
@Masky, Heroman was a decent giant robot show. It looked and sounded good, though the acting was off in places. Alot of people panned it thinking it was the West invading the east when really it was trying to bridge that gap
SuperWooper
@Kaiser: Hey, Humanity Has Declined was great.
KTravlos
need not be

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KTravlos
Masky it was not an issue of writing about politics. It is an issue of writing just about your preferred politics. A good political work need to be politicized if you understand what I mean.
Kaiser-Eoghan
...what the hell tsuki ga kirei was directed by Seiji Kishi? He was actually capable of making a good anime?
Masky
Anyhoo, lol. Haven't mentioned Jitsu wa watashi wa in long time, but I really find it hilarious that its only actually evil character's competence is just "they aren't a idiot" xD As in, they don't even seem that diabolically intelligent, they just don't get wrapped into hijinxs.
Masky
@KTravlos: Well, depends on your views. Some people think artists should have their work speak about politics and world instead of just good stories. I'm kinda neutral about that since while stories about nature of world can be great, most of them don't really teach anyone anything new or change anyone
Masky
Huh, another anime work with Stan Lee being involved? I wonder how well Heroman did
KTravlos
Yup. A mangaka that could had been another Urasaw imho is Kawaguchi Kaiji. I really like his art, and it evokes some of the elements that I love in Urasawa. He also has interesting stories. But I fear he has let his political and ideological prejudices get the better of him. Which is a pity. Definitely a missed chance.
Masky
Did Urasawa do that billy bat manga?
SuperMario
As for Urasawa, I mentioned here before but I read 20th Century Boys few months ago and the manga was a straight out masterpiece. Fillers, yes but they are still in service for the main plot. Although out of his work my favorite's still Monster
AidanAK47
Alright. Only one more. Though the two superhero shows won't air for another week. Seeing as one is reflectiona nd the other is that marvel kids show maybe we shouldn't bother covering them in the impressions.
SuperMario
@Amagi: agree with you on the Friday's anime (well, for me it's technically Saturday) but Kakegurui, Fate and Princess Principal are worth following as well
SuperMario
@Kaiser: if you're still deciding if you should check out the manga or novel then I say novel since it's the novel that was influential, not the manga
Kaiser-Eoghan
So based on that fantasy itch I had thought about Altair, but hesitated because it was labeled as a shounen action show.
Kaiser-Eoghan
There was a time where I was hugely into the shoujo fantasy/historical thing. I've actually been thinking of out of curiousity looking into some old obscure ovas such as Books of Y and Crystania.
Amagi
Man as much as I love the Friday's anime this time, and whenever Altair airs, but the rest of the working-week is weak as hell. At least now I will finally have more time for games, VNs and creative stuff I guess.
Kaiser-Eoghan
It was kind of nice to hear an announcer coming in before Genocidal organ started, mentioning that for a few months their cinema will be playing anime and Japanese films.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Surprised to see an anime reference Kafka and Katyn.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I have not yet checked out empire of corpses.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Now, I'll have to consider the manga or the novel as I heard some of the philosophical stuff got chopped. This was however a more successful and accessible film for me than Harmony.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Manglobe was always a bit mediocre when it came to animation and voice actor direction, but this wasn’t a bad film for them to go out on.
It lives up to its name, it gets quite visceral with the action that’s there, if you don’t like seeing child soldiers getting slaughtered there’s your warning, but I appreciated getting this kind of violence I want to see more of again in anime/manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I just got back from my local arthouse cinema, from watching a special screening of that anime film, Genocidal organ, this is the sort of thing where you do wish that it had more time to explore its thematics but they at least offer a good enough flavouring to a solid man on a mission scifi thriller.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Just to state I don't hate Urasawa's work, rather I find it sort of difficult , I could say the same about Asano Inio regarding oyasumi punpun.
KTravlos
Urasawa is supposed to be working on Master Keaton Remastered. But it seems to be on hiatus. A pity because I loved Master Keaton (I adore Monster)-in general I love this person's work.
Amagi
20thCB would be my favorite Urasawa I think but I can't imagine it as an adaption. Kinda want to know what Urasawa will do next. He already announced that he's working on a new series months ago.
Amagi
I am really looking forward to the Pluto anime. I wanted this one the most, there is a serious lack of good sci-fi anime out there.
Kaiser-Eoghan
...billy bat is....scattered and directionaless fro what I read but shows interesting historical scenarios.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Pluto was reasonably short, so this wasn't much of a problem.
Kaiser-Eoghan
And while from the film adaptations I could tell that the original manga for 20th century boys likely had a very good storyline , I couldn't get through the manga.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Despite watching monster a few times I feel I've missed or forgotten things about it, largely because although I understand its importance and did like it, its length and pace always made me watch it on and off with gaps in between.
Kaiser-Eoghan
I was surprised by how attached I got to Grimmer.
Kaiser-Eoghan
Monster is a good example of slow burn tension done right and has one of the most memorable villains out there. Though it isn't without its fillers.
Lenlo
You want a mystery, I heartily recommend Monster.
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