Posted by psgels on 5 November 2012 with categories: From the New World

Another great thing from From the new World is that it’s different with every episode. This was quite an eerie episode, in which Satoru fights off small armies of those Ground Spiders after getting his powers back.

I’m not quite sure how he got his powers back. I mean, I get that Saki used Satoru’s mantra to get his Cantis back, but I’m curious why Satoru didn’t do the same for Saki. After all, they were in a situation of life and death, which meant that even there, the thought of crossing this taboo didn’t occur to them.

This episode worked really well despite its problems though, in particular the change within Satoru was great as he plowed through these groups of Ground Spiders, actually enjoying himself. Only to run into this actual army at the end of the episode. Although I have to say that some of the 3D animation could have been blended a bit better. In particular the flying rocks and trees.
Rating: 5/8 (Great)

39 Responses

  1. Bunny says:

    Lol, you must of missed out on the shoutbox conversation about how everything happened. So basically we think that the priest sealed their mantra mentally. saki remembered from the classroom conversation that she found out satorus mantra thats why she could redo the ritual and give back his powers. the reason behind sakis remember satorus was because satorus was never sealed it was only hers that was because the priest was only sealing their power not any other mantra that was know in their minds.

  2. Scruffy says:

    Each person has an individual mantra, and what the floating monk did was seal away each individual’s mantra. Saki knew Satoru’s mantra (because she cheated), but he only glanced at hers and so doesn’t know hers. He can’t repeat the ceremony and give her back her mantra.

    • HunterWulf says:

      She knows Satoru’s mantra becasue she looked at his paper in the flashback (by doing the “hatching the pencil trace” trick), and in fact she was actually trying to persuade him to tell her his own mantra .. so there is NOTHING that says a person can’t tell another his/her own mantra (or there would be absolutely no point in the teachers warning them about that) … so why can’t Saki tell Satoru her own mantra and teach him the ritual (which is mostly there for psychological effect) so he can unlock her mantra the same exact way she did for him !!!?

  3. Bunny says:

    High Five Scraffy :)

  4. Bunny says:

    *Scruffy………….damn

  5. JoeAnimated says:

    I found the fact that she replicated the mantra of the priest a bit odd. It just seemed to be a huge leap of faith for us as the viewer to take on. And when it worked, why didn’t he use it on her? She could have instructed him, and then they’d both be free. All very odd. But, I did appreciate that we got to see Satoru’s start into madness. It’s probably representative of the state the TK users were before the new societies. We will get to see first hand why the Scientist decided to build the society they did.

  6. Trass says:

    @Joe: Read above explanation. Neither Satoru nor Saki herself knows Saki’s mantra so Satoru won’t be able to do it even if Saki told him how to do it.

    • JoeAnimated says:

      There’s nothing that says she doesn’t know hers. The flashback scene with Satoru indicates that. She just manages to get his through and old trick. And what she probably realizes is that all the mantras are the same. And in her self induced hypnosis, she comes up with the idea to free him.

  7. Firechick says:

    The top right screenshot is really small for some reason.

  8. Raiden says:

    The reason is that the mantra is just a type of auto-hypnosis.
    Remember the library creature that protected it self with some lights; the creature described it as hypnosis. And the kids said that it was similar to the ritual where they were given their mantra.
    So reason why the sealing works is because the kids believe that it would work.

    Saki is probably starting to figure things out, but just because you know something that does not mean that you believe it. The thing is just too much engraved into her mind to dismiss it that easily.

    However Satoru was tired and in shock the perfect mental state to try to convince him that his powers were back. That she knew his mantra was simply the right bit of knowledge for achieving this. But I believe that she could made up any mantra and it would work.

    • Ougon says:

      Maybe her telling him the wrong mantra was the reason his anti-goma conditioning failed to return and drove him to violence.

  9. HunterWulf says:

    Fantastic episode, and is it me or those Tarantula guys are just damn resourceful, cunning and tenacious, i was surprised they can actually mass-produce poisonous gas using machines, can shape-shift and have such giants in their ranks .. they are indeed proving to be formidable enemies even against PK users .. i bet the Blow-dog from two episodes back was actually one of them who managed to survive the tornado then transformed into a blow-dog and blew himself up to avenge his comrades and destroy the enemy.

    There is also the debate going on here about why didn’t Saki tell Satoru her own mantra so he can unlock her powers the same way she did for him .. some are saying she can’t or that she doesn’t know her own mantra .. where did you get that from !!? she clearly knew her own mantra in the flashback and the teachers wouldn’t warn them about telling others your mantra unless every student had one and unless you actually CAN tell other people about your mantra and have them unlock your powers .. so she MUST know her own mantra.

    • Ougon says:

      In episode 4, at about the 14:30 mark, the monk very clearly says that the children will never again remember their mantras. He clearly did something that caused them to forget their own mantras.

      Not sure why there is a debate when it’s explained pretty clearly in the preceding episodes.

      • Bunny says:

        EXACTLY! people just dont listen/watch properly

      • billish says:

        I think that the context of his powers revival is more important. Why did Saki wait ’til they were trapped? I want to go further into detail but I don’t have any time at the moment (cop-out!), but I feel strongly that the explanation was obscure and that it strongly effected the pacing of both this episode and the series, as well as my faith in the writer’s ability to convey these. To use psgels super-strange grading system, this episode is on the low end of a 2.

        http://altairandvega.wordpress.com/2012/11/04/colloquium-shin-sekai-yori-episode-6-2/ the writer does a decent job of explaining some of what has been discussed by others

        Also, psgels, if it means anything to you, here is one reader that does not agree / understand your grading system or it’s methodology. I liked 1-4 w/ *asterisks much better. Everything may as well be a 5 if you don’t plan on giving out more than a 6 :)). That is all!

        • Ougon says:

          I see no problem with the timing of the restoration of his powers. Saki just so happened to have received her hallucinatory inspiration in the cave at that moment in time. Maybe inspired by the poison gas, or by desperation. People aren’t the perfectly rational agents they’re made out to be.

          And a 2? That’s a little harsh. That would be putting it on the level of one of those awful incest fanservice shows.

          • billish says:

            Nah, those get nothing. And you stated in your response almost exactly what i mean, maybe this maybe that. It is UNCLEAR what happens in that cave.

        • Scruffy says:

          They’ve been running for their life for what seems like a whole day and this (well apart from the almost sex scene) is the first moment where they have stopped. I don’t see the issue.

      • HunterWulf says:

        Thanks for the clarification .. that indeed explains how it happened.

        I did remember the monk sealed their powers completely but i missed the “you won’t remember your mantra ever again” part .. more or less becasue they NEVER actually explained what a mantra did at the time (it was only explained it this episode, so they are partially to blame) … also It’s pretty hard remembering such details when one is watching at least 10 shows this season (too many new good shows and continuing ones for previous seasons like Uchuu Kyoudai).

        Thanks again.

  10. vjott says:

    Oh bother. All this confusion because the viewers aren’t paying attention:

    Each child is given their mantra at their coming of age.
    They summon it to mind whenever they use their power.
    Saki remembered Satoru’s mantra because she tricked the simple-minded fool into giving it to her (she shaded over the tracings in the paper that he pressed on).
    Satoru does not know Saki’s mantra.
    The priest made the children forget their own mantra. They cannot use their power.
    Saki has forgotten her mantra. She still remembers Satoru’s.
    She uses the same incantation the priest used to seal the memory of the mantra to “give” Satoru back his ability.
    Satoru does not know Saki’s mantra. He cannot do the same thing for Saki.

    Now, for some speculation. It seems to be a form of hypnosis (the whole mantra thing). The children are made to think that their ability is tied down to the mantra (through some powerful form of hypnosis: the ritual). The mantra mechanism is a form of control. Also note Satoru’s weakness at the end of this episode: it is probably a result of the mechanism that prevents humans from hurting each other. The rat-people look like humans. The mechanism also kicked in when the priest was using his power against the rat-people earlier.

    At this rate, Satoru may either pass out or die.

    • Scruffy says:

      Nice summary :)

    • HunterWulf says:

      Actually about the “rat people look like humans” part, most of the rat people Satoru he killed from far away .. those he killed killed face-to-face were transformed into other creatures (like the frogs, insects and moles) so i’m not 100% sure the exhaustion Satoru is feeling is just becasue of the kill switch … if the show is trying to be a Sci-Fi story they must establish that continuous excessive use of PK abilities (i.e like Satoru did this episode) must be exerting on the body even without a kill-switch as there is no such thing a limitless power … heck in fantasy series like Magi Aladdin exerted himself and fainted becasue his magic draws energy from his body and he needs rest and food to be able to use it again.

      I actually was expecting more speculation about the peculiar transformation ability that’s unique to the Tarantula clan (since the other queerats can’t use it) and how did they get technology to build poison manufacturing pods and build tubes and pumps to spread the poison into the colony they attacked .. they don’t seem that smart .. maybe some humans are helping them or something.

  11. Bunny says:

    its so simple, yet people think its some massive plot hole.

    • HunterWulf says:

      No it’s not this simple, they never mentioned what a “Mantra” does until ep 6 .. so when the Monk sealed their powers and wiped their own mantra from their memory in ep4 many people watching ep6 didn’t remember that part becasue they had no reason to care what a mantra is in the first place until ep6 explained it.

  12. Entrav says:

    The art is back to normal at least. Wonder how things will go from here….

  13. Nautical says:

    Even if you don’t remember the mantra explanation from episode one or the monk explicitly stating that they won’t remember their mantras (because quite honestly, I didn’t pay enough attention to notice them either), you can still figure it out, particularly from that scene where Saki and Satoru write down their mantras and briefly flash the papers to each other. Satoru clearly doesn’t remember his own mantra, which is why Saki’s memory of his mantra was needed. Similarly, Saki doesn’t remember her own mantra either. Simple enough.
    I think most things were pretty clear in this episode, with the exception of the whole hypnosis sequence at the beginning and Satoru twitching in the corner. But it made a lot of sense after I thought about it later, since it makes sense that it’d be easier to convince a tired, somewhat delusional kid that his powers are back.

  14. Malkuth says:

    Please pay more attention to each episode, the anime might skip a lot of the character development (because it is targeted at mature readers, unlike the average anime viewer), but the rest of the plot is extremely easy to understand, however much each episode director messes up.

    The whole deal with each child’s “cantus” was described in ep.1, put into perspective in ep.4, and thoroughly explained even for NoitaminA-watchers this episode in the flashback!

    • Trass says:

      I agree. From ep1 you can clearly see that you need an unusual amount of seriousness when watching this anime otherwise you wouldn’t even understand what’s going on.

    • vjott says:

      Yeah, viewers should definitely pay attention. This is not a series that spoon-feeds and pampers its audience. Perhaps the fact that this is the only show I’m watching for this season is why I’m able to recall details better than, say for instance, someone who is following 5 or 10 shows. Especially if those other shows are mindless drivel like to-Love-Ru Darkness and the latest incest, harem, ecchi shows where attention to detail isn’t a requirement for enjoyment.

      • Avalon says:

        While I agree with you, you make it sound like every other show airing this season falls into one of those categories you mentioned.

        Maybe I’m just getting defensive here and you’re just making an example, but I feel I need to defend at least the decent shows this season of which there are a surprising amount.

        • vjott says:

          Just using an example. There are some other titles that look promising from what I’ve read on this blog but I can only manage one show this season and I decided to give this a chance; glad I did.

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@Anon, I am certainly interested in seeing the next episode. Those minisodes were pretty good too. One thing I thought the writting faltered on though was the comedy. It really was a little too slapstick considering how serious the drama was.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: ah remind me the time I went to Texas (Corpus Christy) before X-mas time and I was wearing short pants and thongs (nice!!!), then went all the way up to Niagara Falls and I was almost freezing there.
Lenlo
See, I love winter, but its almost non-existent in Texas
Anonymous852268
@Aidan: I agree. I loved To the Moon. It's so good seeing emotional drama that isn't centered around high-school kids. Seeing the ups and downs of a whole long life of a person gives everything that happens way more impact.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: An Australian friend put it as "A sunbaked rock in summer, a giant zoo, that actively tries to kill its population"
SuperMario
Not that I'm enjoying the winter either. Why autumn always go so fast?
SuperMario
Believe me but summer here is way too much. When it's too hot and dry it starts bushfiring really badly. And it's too hot that even a big fan straight in front of you don't do you any good
Kaiser Eoghan
What is this mysterious creature known as summer you refer to? =P My country is grey as a black and white film =P
SuperMario
I'm wondering how freezing you guys have to endure right now, but the place I came today in Aussie just reached 50 degree celsius this noon. So hot I felt myself burning
Lenlo
I think the part I liked the most, was just how satisfying those mud splatter sounds were. I dont know why, but its in my head
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki 6 subs came out at 11pm PST.
Lenlo
Atleast Rakugo didnt get held up. Still amazing as ever
AidanAK47
Well I spent my time waiting for it to come out by playing and finishing To the Moon. Got to say, it takes some real skill to make a game in RPGmaker that can make you really feel something. But maybe I am just a sucker for this kind of story.
SuperMario
Hey, I would be very frustrating if Hand shakers got delayed. But I agree this delay is caused by Being X. And Scum's Wish, haizzz, this is the show we love to get pissed at. Haha
Anonymous850298
I blame Being X.
AidanAK47
Sigh, Youjo Senki 6 is delayed. Why is it always the best shows that get delayed? If an episode of hand Shakers was delayed no one would give a crap but nope. Gotta be the show you want to watch right away.
AidanAK47
@Anon, in both anime and manga I never liked that character much.
Anonymous849783
Meh, dropped Masamune-kun. Seriously why do they always have to shove in these one dimensional characters with a crush out of f* nowhere. It never made any of these shows more interesting, it's always the opposite.
Vonter
@Kaiser Eoghan - I find it weird having the teacher being so unashamedly evil. In a way I like that, but at the same time I can't relate to the notion of people like that existing IRL.
Kaiser Eoghan
As I continue to watch scums wish, it becomes an anger inducing as much as it is engrossing experience.
AidanAK47
Or the UBW movie over the TV series. You just don't do that.
AidanAK47
That's like recommending someone to watch NGE death and rebirth instead of the TV series.
Kaiser Eoghan
Meh, I just got fed up with the padding in the tv version.
AidanAK47
Jojo has the kind of entertainment that clicks with you or doesn't so I understand if you didn't get into it. Though to give it a fair chance I would recommend trying the first episodes of Battle Tendency. It starts at episode 10 of the first season, you can jump to it. If that doesn't catch you then Jojos really isn't for you.
AidanAK47
Don't listen to Kaiser. The OVA is bad.
Kaiser Eoghan
....found out where a friend had been off to lately, making a movie and he ended up actually making and finishing and I got first dibs. Had a hard time commenting on it as I know the guy personally.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Totally with you on the academy thing.
@Lenlo: If you ever try jojo again and get onto part three go for the ova instead as it trims down an overly bloated arc.
Lenlo
For JoJos, I couldnt get through the first season. It just didnt hook me
Lenlo
What I dont understand is how anything other than Mob Psycho won best animation, cause my god.
Lenlo
I think Erased lost not because of the libido, but because Yuri was "gay" and "progressive" and most important of all, recent. Yuri had just finished airing so it was stuck in everyones heads. Of course it was going to win everything
AidanAK47
Erased truly deserved to win that category and it only lost because people voted with their libido instead of their head.
AidanAK47
If there's one thing that really makes me angry about these awards it's Yuri on Ice winning most heartwarming moment for "The Kiss". Because A) It wasn't a fucking kiss and B) Even if it was that isn't heartwarming. Oh I am sure something is getting warm but it sure as hell isn't your heart.
AidanAK47
Likely the main reason Kira didn't win main villain because Jojo has grown to a episode count which makes people hesitant to pick it up. Not to mention many would lose interest by Stardust crusaders midpoint.
AidanAK47
When it comes to judging quality you have to leave it to the people who have experienced enough of the medium to truly be able to critical judge it. Pretty darn sure most who voted didn't even bother watching everything worthwhile each season and just gravitated towards whatever they were exposed to.
AidanAK47
Lets not forget someone voting multiple times and bot voting. Because yes, people really do that. As you two pointed out, a public vote was never truly going to be a accurate gauge of quality. For you are not only opening the vote to anime lovers but also newbies and those who simply haven't refined their tastes yet.
SuperMario
so they either abstained their votes (which actually was reasonable); voted for something popular or even voted based on what their kids liked the most (which was flat out unforgivable).
SuperMario
This from my own frustration mostly when it comes to awards like this. But I've been following the Academy Awards for way too long now and every now and then you heard something that really disheartened about their voting process. Like for example many of the Academy members admitted that they don't care to watch anything animated because... it's kiddy stuff
SuperMario
TL;DR: my point is I have mixed feeling about the whole Crunchyroll awards. One more thing that I noticed about the nomination is that the pool was dominated by shows from the first half of last year.
Lenlo
I dont think public voting is the way to go is the thing. Popularity contests are horrible. With popularity contests moe is going to be near the top every time, while shows like Rakugo never really have a chance. And I think there is little doubt that Rakugo was one of the best shows last season
SuperMario
@Lenlo: there is an issue with the first thou, because reviewers like us don't actually represent the whole public opinions. So it's all come down to the very reason they create an award in a 1st place (your second point). But with voting we can't really reason why the winners win the trophy, right?
Lenlo
The problem with awards like that is for them to mean anything they need 2 things. 1) A board of voters who are actual reviewers who have watched a large portion of what was on shelf that season. 2) Reasons for why each thing won its award. An award without reasons means nothing
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