Posted by psgels on 23 December 2012 with categories: Psycho Pass

Now. This was incredibly intense. This latest installment has really pushed this series to new levels and I really was at the edge of my seat through the entirity of the scene between Akane and Shougo Makishima. And hands off for the creators for actually doing it: killing off the girl. From Urobuchi Gen this was to be expected, but many other writers would have chosen to let her live, which would just not have had the same impact.

Because the end of this episode was just hopeless. Akane really looked completely shocked in this episode. She was slightly different and more competent from the usual rookie you see in these positions, but she still is naive, believing that she can just take care of things herself. This episode was so over her capabilities. The direction of this episode really was amazing in bringing this forth.

I just wonder… what idiot thought that the Sybil System would be a good idea? I mean, what it basically does is sniff out psychopaths. The junks and the mentally instable people whose desires go out of control. There is another group of killers out there though: the ones who simply don’t care about human lives. These guys aren’t necessarily psychopaths, they just have no value for anything and just kill whenever they find someone annoying. Or in Shougo’s case someone who just rationally manages to kill people.
Rating: 6/8 (Awesome)

32 Responses

  1. Mathias says:

    I’d say that Makishima meets the actual definition of a psychopath which is the exact reason why the Sibyl System cannot recognize his actions as criminal.

  2. DmonHiro says:

    Nope, Makishima is not a psychopath. Most likely, a psychopath would be detected by the system. He’s probably a sociopath. Still, the Sybil system is VERY stupid. Not only does ot fail to identify those that actually matter, but it also discourages people from thinking for themselves, and actually makes studying psychology detrimental for the one studying. It’s useless. Crimes don’t decrease thanks to it, but they increase in brutality because of the pent up stress.

    • HunterWulf says:

      I think it does reduce crime rates, because the average criminal is nothing like the sly devil Shogo is, all the criminals that got caught/eliminated had very high crime coefficients (not to mention where encouraged by Shogo to pursue their twisted depraved criminal desires).

      The real problem with Sybil as Shogo pointed out is that human-will can’t be accounted for nor measured by a machine, how do you quantify will-power or scan it, the other side to Sybil’s problems as he also demonstrated is that it turns the society into vegetable-like humans so overly dependent on it for decisions they can’t make judgment on their own anymore and eventually lose the ability to move or act due to lack of natural stimulants.

      So yeah the Sybil system does have serious flaws but that doesn’t make it 100% useless or stupid.

  3. Litho says:

    Typical Urobutcher. I bet he gets off watching snuff films.

    • HunterWulf says:

      If you seriously think this episode was just meant as torture/violence porn then you clearly don’t get it at all .. just becasue a writer kills off some of the characters in gruesome ways doesn’t mean he is doing it just for the heck of it.

      If you think Uro’s works are equivalent to snuff films wait till you watch/read Mohiro Kitoh’s Shadow Star (a.k.a Naru Taru).

      • Litho says:

        … or Bokurano?

        Personally, I don’t think Psy-Pas has been all that great. In relative terms, say to the sci-fi we’ve seen recently in anime, yeah, maybe. It’s no GITS though. Like all Urobutcher works, it’s got a lot of swiss-cheese sized holes in the plot and he just tries to make up for it with shock value, misdirecting the audience. Clever way of writing? Maybe. Inspiring? hardly.

        • HunterWulf says:

          Bokurano at least had good story with some twists and interesting premise which deconstructs the super-robots genre (while i admit it was being severely cruel with the children characters sometimes to a disturbing degree) overall it was a guilty pleasure … Naru Taru) is just sickening Pokemon-esque torture porn.

          Speaking of PP, what plot-holes are there exactly, the writing so far is excellent and has very interesting social commentary .. the violent scenes are scarce and only there when they are really needed.

  4. Commenter says:

    As Makishima himself says: what’s the criteria for being a criminal?
    Clearly the system has issues all over the place. Makishima doesn’t register because he is an ideological killer. He doesn’t do it out of madness, desire, or plain psychopathy. He does it because he wants to show to everyone how the system is broken. Though of course it can also just be that the system uses a criteria that simply doesn’t cover all of it.

    By the way, I’m going to make a prediction here that Akane herself also doesn’t register regardless of her actions. It would certainly match the impression the OP leaves on me.

  5. HunterWulf says:

    Hmmm, where should i start, let’s start by saying THIS IS ONE HELL OF AN INTENSE EPISODE .. phew .. now that this is out of the way let’s focus on the “why”.

    The first part focused on our Criminal Investigation Division team busting into the sewers network to look for Kogami, mean while the intense battle between Kogami and Senguji was quite a treat as Kogami despite being shot few times manages to outsmart Senguji and blow his cybernetic body to bits.

    That’s when things start getting really grim, Kogami is bleeding and almost dead while Tsunamori rushes after her friend and Shogo without waiting for backup, now from this point there are two scenes i’ll really focus on .. the confrontation between Shogo and Tsunamori and the scene between Kogami and Tsunamori afterwards.

    I can’t just express how intense and powerful the scene between Shogo and Tsunamori is, it really had me at the edge of my seat unable to guess at all how it will play out, when Shogo threw his shotgun to Tsunamori i was like “WTH are you doing !!?”, but slowly i figured out the what a sly devil this guy is, he read Tsunamori like an open book in few moments (thanks to his teacher), he knew she won’t be able to overcome the conditioning she lived through all her life, that Sybil’s judgment is always right, that it knows better .. but it goes deeper than that, the negative effects of Sybil taking all choices out of people’s hands made them unable to act when faced with a death or life situation where they have to make a choice themselves .. specially a choice that involves judging another person and killing them based on ones own judgment (not Sybil’s) .. as demonstrated by Tsunamori .. sure she picked the shotgun and fired .. but she fired half-heartedly, without aiming and while still clinging to the Sybil Dominator gun (which in a very ironic and heart-wrenching way kept repeating over and over that Shogo isn’t a threat despite him holding a knife over the neck of Tsunamori’s friend Yuki), the disbelief and shock in Tsunamori’s eyes as Shogo’s Crime Coefficient kept dropping gradually to zero was just so genuine and masterfully done .. the genius of it is that it was sort of countdown to the climax of the scene and also worked to showcase how Shogo just looks down upon, rejects and contradicts all the rules established by Sybil and all those who follow it .. he just spits on all them.

    Also the moment Shogo runs his knife over the neck of Yuki was also done very well and didn’t involve huge amounts of blood spraying all over the screen gratuitously, unlike many other death scenes in the series before which were grotesque and shocking due to graphic in-your-face violence this scene was intentionally cut (we see the knife running over Yuki’s neck, and then we cut to her dead body hanging from the handcuffs silently while her blood drips from the floor) it’s subdued in a very smart way to maximize the fact that it’s shock value doesn’t come from the blood or gore involved, but rather from the implications of what just happened and its impact on both Tsunamori and the viewer(i kept thinking to the last second that Shogo is bluffing and won’t really do it).

    Shogo mentally crushed Tsunamori in that scene, he destroyed everything she took for granted in her world, made a strong practical statement about the flaws of Sybil that she couldn’t do anything to counter and took the life of one of her friends in the process (masterfully foreshadowed by the death of one of her schoolmates that she got involved in the investigation few episodes ago), in short Tsunamori recklessly danced with the devil and got burned severely.

    The other scene i want to highlight is during the aftermath of the episode, that scene where Kogami despite being severely injured and almost half-dead moves his bed right next to the shocked Tsunamori and then taps her shoulder with the back of his hand, in a way he is telling her “Snap out of it”, but also it could be seen as a “I’m here for you” or “I understand your pain/loss, tell me what happened” .. sure the “Snap out of it” seems the most obvious and straightforward .. but IMO the beauty of the scene is that it can be seen in many ways despite its simplicity, the following scenes aren’t any less amazing, the way the ED starts playing and overlaps with the sound of police/ambulance sirens and Shogo walking among the street crowd who are unaware of what he is capable of could make for one fantastic finale of a top quality sci-fi thriller movie.

    Sigh, now time for something a little light-hearted .. is it me or is the scene where Masaoka head-butts injured Kogami is just hilarious, that man really doesn’t kid around .. i mean who would head-butt an injured bleeding man this violently (i mean Kogami seemed to be in so much pain from the head-butt).. Masaoka really took the spotlight twice in this story arc, once when he attacked Ginoza and lifted him in the air with one arm before their raid started when Ginoza was verbally attacking Tsunamori and blaming her for everything, and the second time when he headbutted injured Kogami, he sure is one hell of tough old badass XD

    • consterhk says:

      I totally agree. The way that the inspectors (and Tsunamori, as a product of society) has been ingrained that their psychopass needs to be “pure” and have cost them the will to think -and pull the trigger. This only makes Kogami the real hero, as he has sacrificed his psychopass; to dance the line of potentially being shot by his “shepherds”.

      Shogo drawing the knife was the last straw. Will Tsunamori be willing to taint her psychopass now?

    • jzar says:

      Well said, I love your observations about a great show. I only wish I knew why episode 12 is not yet around.

  6. Airies says:

    I TOTALLY AGREE! with the gun system thing anyways. Also have you seen how long it takes for them to charge!? OMG you could be shot in that time easily before the gun finally shoots. I didnt much like the ep though. I knew the chick would day so It didnt really make me go “yikes whats gonna happen!?”

    • HunterWulf says:

      Well you seem to be forgetting that normal guns are clearly illegal and very rare in the world of Psyhco-Pass … the old enforcer “Masaoka” says clearly it has been a very long time since he saw real bullets holes .. so an enforcer with a Dominator has the upper hand against most normal criminals (who won’t have any access to normal guns like Senguji the super rich collector bastard).

  7. jonas says:

    My bet is that the system is rigged. In the first episode Makishima is being protected by heavy armed bodyguards, and living in the Sybil HQ Skyscraper. He is probably the son of the guy who invented the Sybil system.

    • Litho says:

      It’s possible. The first ep’s opening scene was in a penthouse of some sort, which seemed to be the silver-haired dude’s “domain” of some sort.

    • HunterWulf says:

      Good point, the building in which the first scene takes place in is like at the center of the city and is highlighted in ED .. it really seems like it could be where the Sybil super-computer is .. although if that’s true and Shogo rigged the computer to mask his crime coefficient it would remove a lot of the mystery and impact Shogo’s character has .. would make him just some cheap ass cheater XD

      • jonas says:

        Well, if Shogo Makishima turns to be just some cheap ass “hax0r” character, that would be a perfect fit for the themes of the show, mainly:

        “The fairytale seems to have died moments ago”.

        No grand master of evil, just a rich kid abusing a system created to protect him.

        Of course, there is also the possbility that Shogo may just be a chemically imbalanced Psychopath.

      • Rando says:

        I think the building shown in the first episode in the beginning was the top of the police HQ. They zoom in on it then, and they have a similar shot in a later episode that cuts to Akane at her desk.

  8. Entrav says:

    Highlighting that the Sibyl System is rigged. Basically, there’s no way such a system is morally righteous anyways. It’ll be interesting to see how Akane adapts to the situation and whether she’ll become an Enforcer or not.

  9. witchy says:

    This was a great ep for me. I’m studying Psychology, and anime series like this make me…happy. I guess it’s because there is too much debate and reflection going on after episodes like this that makes me love it.

    Can anyone enlighten me, again, how the dominator or the Sibyl system measures crime coefficient? What were they scanning again when they use the dominator? Blood? Endorphin levels? Whatever activation of neurotransmitter??

    I found how at the end of this ep it was snowing…referring to Yukki (or however “snow” in Japanese is spelled). I’m not very knowledgeable about Gen’s works, but I think the writing in this show is good. Maybe there are plot holes here and there, but a very good story is not measured just by how less flaws it has but by usually HOW POWERFUL the emotional experience it gives to the viewers. Psycho-Pass, for me, has been very intense in most of its eps and has made me have that adrenaline rush although I was not a part of the story (nor live in that world). I love where its going. I love how dark it is. I love it because I can handle its darkness too, and few shows can grip me so much. If From the New World has a merciless society, Psycho-Pass has a society that can be merciful yet still suffocating.
    Akane will learn from this; that’s for sure. If Shinya will be a great emotional support, we’ll see. If Akane though can be as resilient as before…we’ll see.

    • HunterWulf says:

      I suppose the Sybil system runs a full-brain-scan taking in all the possible parameters it could acquire and then analyze them based on the physiological and psychological databases it has .. the scan could include brain activity (which parts of the brain where more active than others), blood pressure in the brain, chemicals levels (endorphin, morphine), … etc etc etc

  10. Rachnid says:

    I kinda felt that the sibyl system sniffs out mentally unstable people, but is incapable of detecting psychopaths, which I feel Makishima is.

    • HunterWulf says:

      Shogo Makishima can’t be a psychopath .. IMO mentally unstable people = psychopaths … Shogo is a whole different monster, he has full control over his emotions and he can suppress them very well (that’s why he mentioned will-power), he is also convinced that what he is doing is 100% righteous and that it isn’t evil/bad or a crime .. unlike all the other criminals he isn’t just disillusioned or driven by desire or insecurities, he rationalized his view-point to a degree where not only he has no doubt at all he is 100% righteous but also has a solid cohesive thread of logical reasons supporting his conviction within his mind which also match with reality .. a simplified example of his logic would be –> (Sybil enslaves people making them unable to make choices in any way/Sybil eventually turns people into paralyzed undead patients due to prolonged lack of natural stimuli thus all people who are slaves to Sybil are theoretically dead .. hence Sybil and all those who protect it are EVIL).

      Shogo really reminds me of the main villain in Monster, that guy was also one hell of a psychological monster XD

      • jonas says:

        My other theory is that Makishima may be chemically unbalanced. Notice how his crime coefficient lowers, the closer he get to the actual killing. In the first episode is mentioned that drugs can alter the readings of the Dominator.

      • Puran says:

        Makishima is a psychopath. He is the very definition of a psycho path. It’s not being mentally unstable. They are mentally very stable, they just lack feelings of guilt/remorse/anxiety etc.

        Anyway, my problem with this series, is that Sybil system is so very much flawed and it’s obvious from the first episode. And the series hasn’t tried at ALL to make it have any kinds of pros and as such it feels like a very implausible future. Have the crime-rates fallen? (we don’t know). Are the lives of people gotten generally better? (we don’t know). We have a system that has been shown to have a bad effect on people’s lives on multiple occasions but we’ve never seen it have a positive effect. Which makes the setting feel very shallow for me.

  11. DangerMouse says:

    Your long post back in the middle of the comments about the awesome strengths of this episode was excellent HunterWulf :)

    As you mentioned: Shinya, Akane and Masaoka great as usual.

    I can certainly see the comparison on the Monster thing with Shogo, he seems to be one heck of that kind of a villain so far.

    Man am I loving the hell out of this show.

    Just like with GITS SAC, Production I.G really knows how to nail this kind of scifi so well and I love them for it.

  12. kero says:

    Some edge of the seat stuff with the final scene between Akane and Makashima!

    Brilliant.

  13. Bakura says:

    Regarding the Sybil system, I believe the way it works is by reading the biological signs. Like you would expect a person who is getting angry to experience a rise in blood pressure. Of course, its not just one factor that Sybil uses, but the aggregate of several ones to come to its conclusion about the psychological state of the subject (using some algorithm, historical data or combination of both). Makishima can’t be judged because he’s the guy who doesn’t give off any the telltale signs even when he’s killing.
    Sybil is shown to be so advanced that it can judge the suitability of people for careers based on the bio/psycho data. If we accept that, then naturally it would replace the law enforcer as the “judge” in a violent situation. While the concept is cool, I highly doubt real guns could be cleansed out so easily from the world just because Sybil is there. And secondly… it does take WAAAAY to long to load up the Dominator. Not too effective if the enemy is a master hand to hand combatant.

  14. solar_sailor says:

    this episode completely tore apart the theory of ‘Fight or Flight’ – what did Akane do when faced with threat? neither! A part of me is in anguished disbelief that this sort of impasse “decision” can be made.. how much this reflects human threat-behaviour in reality, I can’t say I know enough but darn. My psychopass just got 4 levels cloudier watching this LOL.
    And I would like to agree with the few who deduced Makishima to be more sociopath than psychopath.. psychopaths *don’t* try to blend in and stay undetected.

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Biggest disappointments for me were erased , berserk and joker game. Whereas my surprise was lost passage. My favourites of the year were flippflappers and Rakugo. I wanted Kabaneri and dimesion w to save anime and bring back some oldskool charm but that didn't happen.
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Thats a problem with adaptations, put a voice on certain characters and it can become irritating.
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@Aidan: Largely stayed away from that series as I assumed it was for young children.
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@Aidan: Additionally the relationships in that manga got too convoluted, the comedy stands out worse in the anime too. Still though I DO dig the idea behind the show of two kids who are in a fake relationship.
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Venting here largely because I can, I now imagine the teenage/twenty something audience members at horror/thriller films as the victims in the films, makes it more tolerable to deal with their existence in the cinema.
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Rakugo, continues to be great and gets another time skip. Im always surprised by how engrossing it is just listening to these people talk.
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Makes me sad, just like Berserk. Got an entire shelf dedicated to it but its just so slow. stupid boat.
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....well without spoiling towards the middle of that rakugo episode and all throughout during that middle part, my opinion on Yotaro's character went far up.
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Struggling to remember the name of that josei samurai manga from the 90s (or earlier 2000s), had a gender bending theme.
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I've already read kenshin and vagabond, I loved shigurui death frenzy and sword of the stranger but found samurai champloo uneven. Theres a kagemusha manga but I haven't read it and I've yet to see/read blade of the immortal.
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At a glance I'll go against the grain and say I think demi-chan is funnier than konosuba, going on one episode of each.
I've been watching a fare share of samurai films in the last two years and lately so I'm open to wathing more anime/reading manga dealing with samurai.
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Hand Shakers, how I love to watch it jumping off the cliff. This show contains lines like "I don't understand... even if I did understand... but I don't understand." It isn't a dialogue that we encounter too often I'm sure.
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@Mario, Sounds good to me. With me covering Little Witch Academia, Saga of Tanya the evil and Rakugo this season is well covered.
SuperMario
so I've decided to blog 3-gatsu, Scum's Wish and ACCA this season. A bit worry about the latter as I still don't have much to talk about that. Let's try it and see what happens; I say
SuperMario
Okay, I'm not hot on Onihei this week, as if the main theme about these two episodes were "people can be corrupted" then I'm not buying it. ACCA, on the other hand, was still very solid of building up the world and its big events to come.
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I have played all the big roguelikes and found they have the same problem. I argee on procedural generation. Even if the map is different every time you are essentailly going through the same rooms and doing the same things.
Masky
Though to be honest, I don't like procedural(or designed room and then game connects them randomly) games much. I much enjoy hand designed dungeons since I rarely play games through more than once anyway so roguelike's appeal of "Every time you play it through its different!" doesn't appeal to me much and hand designed dungeons are much more memorable
Masky
Can't really comment further on that since I don't know which roguelikes you have played, and neither I have played gungeon so I don't know if its badly designed to the point you can't do anything if rng says so. Though I guess there is nothing wrong about liking luck based games, if roguelike in question is truly unbeatable if rng says so, well, its really badly designed one if you ask me.
AidanAK47
Take my last run. Made it up to the fourth floor. Got plenty of guns but none were really useful. Even then ran out of ammo for all of them and the game was cheap about giving out ammo. Plenty of money but shops with nothing worth buying. Over 5 heart containers but no goddamn health. Died on the boss because I rolled out of a bullet into another bullet. Pretty much unavoidable.
AidanAK47
@Masky, that's the theory but in pretty much every roguelike I played its not the case. If the RNG decides you are going to have a bad time then you are going to have a bad time. Skill can only bring you so far. I have played this game for 7 hours and I know I could have finished it in 2. Only thing stopping me is a dice roll.
Masky
Like, the thing with roguelikes is that they can get easier/harder depending on luck, but well done one should be completable even without any upgrades at all if you are skilled enough.
Masky
Thats not the really case with roguelikes though, unless game design is bad and includes insta kill traps and such that are unavoidable if you are unlucky
AidanAK47
I hate roguelikes. Been playing enter the Gungeon and I just lost all patience with it. Getting real tired of my victory being decided by a RNG. It never feels satisfying to finish a roguelike because I know my victory was determined by pure luck.
AidanAK47
So we got to rely on fansubs for it when it's airing.
AidanAK47
@Mario, Nope. I think because netflix only puts up full seasons they are only planning to put it up when it's finished airing. Or when it's dubbed.
SuperMario
But how does the Netflix thing work? So of I have a Netflix account I can watch the show weekly?
SuperMario
@Aidan: that's a dumb way to do things really because unless you watch the show weekly, everyone gonna forget that it even exist. Just look at Re-Life last year
Lenlo
thought*. Words are hard.

Eventually found the actual first ep though and enjoyed it.
Lenlo
Was funny. I tried to find the first Ep for Little Witch, found original short made afew years ago, watched it and though "This is very similar to the original... Whats new".
AidanAK47
Little witch is one of the best shows this season and yet I can't get subtitles because Netflix doesn't release shows weekly. Motherf*cker.
Lenlo
Ore Monogatari I enjoyed. It was a nice romance that actually explored what happens after the confession. Also the 2 leads are just precious.
Lenlo
Alright but unmemorable seems like a good summation.
SuperMario
@Lenlo: one good thing about Seiren is if you don't like this romance, the whole thing gonna reset after episode 4 so there's a chance that you might end up like it. Agreed that the comedy wasn't very good. Alright but unmemorable
SuperMario
@Topgavin: I watched like first 3 episodes and stopped because I didn't have much time there, but I enjoyed what I saw. A well-written and endearing show in my book
Topgavin
Has anyone here watched Ore Monogatari before? Because in the 4 years I've watched anime, I've never heard of it (I guess it did come out 2 years ago) and yet it's turning out to be one of my favorite shows. Always great going into a show expecting nothing and getting pleasantly surprised.
AidanAK47
Only one more impression to go. Should have it up tomorrow.
Lenlo
Im really not feeling Seiren. Its "comedy" isnt for me and I just dont find it very enjoyable to watch so far. Im curious if it gets any better but 2 episodes in it just isnt that good.
HelghastKillzone
That ending scene is an entire side-story compressed into that. Don't expect anymore of it from here on out as the it sticks to ruthless military/fantasy pretty well.
LookingForKeys
@Topgavin I think it was good, making it the second episode. That way the first set up the world the story will be in, and showed how much of a monster the "little girl" really is right at the end, and then made ep.2 the explanation. Nothing against Tanya trying to rip "God" a new one.
That after-credits scene, though...
SuperMario
Hmm, as much as I like Seiren's omnibus format, it doesn't turn out really hot this second episode. Demi-chan, on the other hand, still maintains its endearing tone. Might blogging Demi-chan instead
Topgavin
Yeah, that second episode was much better than the first. Dunno why they didn't start with that to be honest, waste of an opportunity for a good hook episode. The voice for the main girl still sounds weird to me though; I get it's supposed to sound weird because it symbolizes 'her' being out of place and her personality and body being a mismatch, but it'll certainly take some getting used to.
AidanAK47
Youjo Senki, now we are talking. Like Helghast said, Did the god scene way better than the LN and manga. Made it less comedic and more intimidating.
Lenlo
Oh man that Rakugo intro. Not sure what to think, but first time seeing it I liked it
Kaiser Eoghan
I sort of like good will hunting because I kind of saw a bit of myself in Damon's character when I watched it ages ago.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Remaking psycho and ruining the shower scene, for shame van sant, for shame.
Kaiser Eoghan
Its easy to ripoff some obscure thing though and get away with it. The dogtooth director essentially stole an old Mexican film to make that.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: yeah, that following some guys from behind like they were on a RPG games, which I think actually fit with the tones of Elephant. I have such mixed feeling with Gus van Sant too. Don't really think he's a great director.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Although Istvan Szabo is probably a little more well known for that Mephisto film that updates the Faust story. Zoltan Fabri's the fifth seal is a very thought provoking war movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I remember seeing a film documentary that featured Gus van sant in one section, they showed clips of tarrs films, Sant ripped of the cinematography and stole the style from some British short film to make Elephant.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: agree on the other Hungarian filmmakers, I don't know much about them either.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Scorsese's Silence was a big comeback. I really really emotionally connect with spiritual crisis stories.
SuperMario
@kaiser: yep, definitely check wreckmeister down. Althought I admit that watching his 2-hour plus films will feel like 5-hour anyways
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I'm more tolerant of darker teenage/coming of age films/stories. Les Demons was a big surprise.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Though its kind of frustrating, I do think Tarr probably takes attention away from other hungarian filmakers because no-body knows who the hell the others are.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Man, wreckmeister was so visually arresting I started getting dreams from it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I would consider Tarr to be kind of a poor mans Janco, Angelopolus and Tarkvosky rolled into one. I don't entirely "get" wreckmeister and man from London but they are great atmospheric mood piece experiences.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: I had been wanting to watch Belar Tarr's Turin Horse and Werckmeister Harmonies for so long now. Well, Fat Girl is shocking haha, but I'm normally drawn into those kind of films anyway.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: Margaret took like 5,6 years to release because he couldn't cut it down in the way he wanted. The final cut if I remembered correctly was edited by Martin Scorsese
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Only a HDcam for moonlight now.
Kaiser Eoghan
I looks like my lineup is witch academia, rakugo and youjo senki, well the most latter one until I get bored.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I sense a directors cut for manchester, it feels like it need another 30 minutes.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: right up my valley. Watch Kenneth Lonergan's previous works Magaret and You Can Count on Me. Magaret is very messy but have a raw dialogue and interactions as well
SuperMario
Now the first episodes are over, I will keep on covering 3-gatsu, as for the other twos atm I have 3 options: 1) full romance/anti-romance high school Seiren/Scum's Wish. 2) slice-of-life moe monster girls Demi-chan/Maid Dragon and 3) Mature,dark Onihen/Acca (which although I like them I don't have much to talk about).If you guys have any preference on which shows you like covered then let me know
Kaiser Eoghan
@Helghast: At this point I'm watching youjo senki as an entertaining guilty pleasure.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Too many reboots upcoming, will wait for the dvds instead. I want to explore more of manchester by the sea's director's work. I also want to finally get more into Bela Tarr's stuff.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I was rather shocked by A Ma souer/fat girls final act. Scenes with the Italian in the bedroom were initially creepy.
SuperMario
@Kaiser: it's a nice review Kaiser, a bit jealous with you that you've seen those 3 films which are touted as the best films of 2016. Also Fat Girl, haha, I love that movie.
Kaiser Eoghan
Poor yotaro =< you have so much stuff going down on you =<
HelghastKillzone
Youjo Senki episode was so good today. That revamped scene with God just fitted so right.
AidanAK47
A official release of that game in the west is apparently coming but it's been a few years and not much news about it.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Aidan: Ah yes that was the one.
AidanAK47
@Kaiser, Had to think for a moment on that one but I think I was talking about this. https://vndb.org/v3144
Kaiser Eoghan
Now I'd hardly consider myself a studio trigger fan, but I watched the first witch academia episode there, it was actually kind of fun, got the same reaction from me as flipflappers did, that magical, special feeling.
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: I also, of interest reviewed Kenneth Lonegrans new film: http://letterboxd.com/shao_liu_ringon/film/manchester-by-the-sea/
Kaiser Eoghan
@Mario: Moonlight got some feels out of me though it could of been more, it ends abruptly and with 20 extra minutes they could have spent a bit more time on each section of his life.
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