Posted by psgels on 6 January 2013 with categories: From the New World

You know, for a while I just kept wondering why Saki and the others were special. But yeah, there are more anime that just make their main cast special and stand out for no reason whatsoever other than that they happened to be at the right time at the right place. But this episode actually addresses that: the lead cast could have actually been just a bunch of obedient vegetables, if it wasn’t for the decision of the board of education to have them develop their own free will. Now it all makes sense: why they were the only ones who went to look for that slug creature.

I still can’t believe that Shun was killed off so early. This episode really made me suspect that he originally was meant to lead the village next, but then his powers went out of control. This episode also hints very heavily that we’re not going to Maria and Mamoru back. It’s been a while since I’ve seen a show pick off its supposed main characters so easily.

What I do wonder is why the decision was made to dispose of Mamoru? I mean, there were a few things going on in this episode that weren’t mentioned: the feelings of the board of execution. They probably got scared of Mamoru. My guess would be that giving him a mind of his own didn’t work out too well: he didn’t become independent and was rather weak, and they started to fear this and just disposed of him, since he was useless with a mind of his own. Now that that failed they tried to cover themselves up with their own authority.
Rating: 5.5/8 (Excellent)

18 Responses

  1. kuromitsu says:

    It kind of weirds me out that people still don’t understand the reason behind Mamoru’s disposal. What part of “a chain is only as strong as its weakest link” is so difficult to understand? ^^;; Have people already forgotten about episode 12?

  2. Haven’t see this ep yet but I remember back an episode or two before Shun was killed that (older)Saki was narrating and said that when the leader came to their room and spoke to Shun that everyone was expecting it to be a big, momentous meeting where he would take him as his apprentice. So you’re probably right there, sounds like they just don’t have a way to screen and see whose going to become an orge or karmaic demon, otherwise they would have prevented that and Shun would be on track to be the leader.

  3. JustPlain says:

    It was not the village reader but the cantus leader who met shun. IMO Saki is supposed to become the village leader from the start and I think the cantus leader doesn’t exist probably it is part of the mechanism to kill of karma-demons.
    Shinsekai was excellent as usual.

  4. qwert says:

    One of my biggest complaints has always been how these kids could just walk past the holy barriers without any kind of conditioning stopping them. Nice to finally have that settled.

  5. Cholisose says:

    This series is doing an excellent job of explaining all the little details for why everything has happened the way it has happened.

    Regarding Shun, I don’t feel that his death is a definite thing. I believe he really did try to kill himself, but I have a feeling that he wasn’t successful. He had mentioned that his body was unconsciously working to keep himself alive, even when he took the poisoned drugs. I won’t be surprised if Shun shows up again one day, and possibly as a real force to be reckoned with.

    And as for Mamoru, it seems clear that the village fears he may become a fiend due to 1) his fretful personality, and 2) his relatively poor control over his power. The fact he has successfully run away from the village only confirms that he’s dangerous (in the eyes of the board of education, at least). If he’s capable of that, he’s capable of losing it one day as well. In all reality I find it rather unlikely he ever would have become a fiend if he had just been left alone, but the fact he’s in the “experiment team” and is connected with the likes of Shun, Saki, the girl who was killed at the start of the series, the false minoshiro, and so on–well, all these points have to add up against him.

    • HunterWulf says:

      Thanks for saving me the time explaining why the sentence to kill Mamoru was carried out by the committee of Education.

    • Airies says:

      this series does explain all the question psgels asks, he just doesnt watch sub which I still cant understand even if he thinks he knows japanese.

      • vjott says:

        psgels knows Japanese? Anyway, this is a show that should probably be marathoned because the one week intervals are usually enough for many viewers to forget the finer details of the previous episode.

      • psgels psgels says:

        To be honest, I am watching all of this in subs. I’m just not not paying attention sometimes or just ot good at explaining everything.

  6. Entrav says:

    I enjoyed the various explanations. Well, getting rid of Mamoru is kind of obvious like the others said so I won’t say much more. Good episode though :)

  7. Taara535 says:

    People are ignoring Mamoru’s impact on Maria and vice versus. While the Board of E is clearly blinded to that relationship, Tomiko is clearly not. Their relationship, and how it pans out, is what is going to drive the plot forward and determine the ending (which I expect will be incredibly tragic).

  8. HunterWulf says:

    Ah, there was something that caught my attention in this episode, if Tomiko is immortal (or at least can renew her cells over and over giving her a very long life-span) why is training Saki to be the village elder/leader … is she going somewhere or is she bored with her current role and wants to be free from it so she will step down and hand it over to Saki .. or maybe there is something else she has in her mind .. i wonder if they will follow up on that point later on.

    I might also add that’s im’ really enjoying the developing mentor/student relation between Saki and Tomiko, specially considering the difficult role Saki will have to take and how Tomiko manages to soften the impact of shocks/surprises she delivers to Saki as part of her training .. Tomiko is really becoming one of my fav characters in the show.

  9. CY says:

    I won’t count Maria out yet…
    After all, back in episode 2, the adult Saki did mention that “if Maria haven’t been born, many people could have been spared.”

    Lifted that part from the sub and to me it seems that she’s gonna go berserk & go on a killing spree after Mamoru dies/loses control?

    Also, i think the reason Tomiko is grooming Saki is because she had gotten tired of her role & the blood on her hands. Also, she doesn’t know when her time will run out, so it’s better to have a successor waiting in the wing just in case she unexpectedly dies.

  10. Jack says:

    The board of education gave me the creeps. I hope they all die when Maria’s rampage happens.

  11. Gustavo says:

    Has anyone seen episode 15?

    The winter is coming…

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  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 11:38 PM)
    And also remember how Darker Than Black had a big jump between the main series and Gemini of the Meteor. They later made a 4 episode OVA that covered the gap, and although you knew the outcome it was still entertaining; or at least more than the Gemini one. There’s merit to non-linear chronology and storytelling, but it is usually very hard to pull. The audience is intrigued by secrets that can later be uncovered, although in anime the pay-off is not always substantial.
  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 11:32 PM)
    I don’t know, the audience usually only needs very limited information to figure out dynamics and histories between the characters.
  • AidanAK47
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 11:27 PM)
    A 13 episode series would work for the second title unlimited. But Alternative is a pretty long visual novel. You need at least two cours to give it justice. Making extra an OVA could work but you do need it for alternative. But it’s not an optional part of the trilogy. It needs to be read first, so that event later have a greater impact. Personally I am not even sure Muv Luv can even work in another medium.
  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 11:12 PM)
    That might compress things, but I think a good screen-writer can fit pretty much any VN in 12-14 episodes (covering just the main route).
  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 11:07 PM)
    @Aidan: then the best solution would’ve been to make a two cour season covering the 2nd and the 3rd book. Have the cours air two anime seasons apart, and in the middle have an offshoot short OVA that covers the 1st book, but has a more harem comedy feel to it. Think Full Metal Panic and Fumuffu.
  • AidanAK47
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 01:34 PM)
    @bam, Muv Luv has the problem that most of its brillence lies in the third title. But in order for the third title to have the same effect you need to read the first two. Successful or not, I doubt theres animation studio willing to go all in and adapt the full trilogy. There’s also the issue of the first title being a really mediocre harem.
  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 12:48 PM)
    just a glimpse at the tip of the iceberg of reasons why y’all need a PS4 for the upcoming year:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3Hz8eXWHNY
  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 08:09 AM)
    Why they didn’t adapt the original Muv Luv novel or Alternative is a mystery to me. Wasn’t the VN really successful? Whats with these offshoot shows instead of doing the real deal? They are avoiding it for some reason.
  • Bam
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 08:06 AM)
    @Aidan: I have a suspicion that they got it from that 80’s song Total Eclipse of the Heart. Japanese authors are strangely enamored with the corny pop songs from that era.
  • Kaiser Eoghan
    (Friday, Feb 5. 2016 05:46 AM)
    And even then, those two muv-luv alternative episodes, schwartzmarken is still better than those.

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